Hayden Continues Defending CIA Torture, Other Countries Respond, Detroit to Exit Bankruptcy: P.M. Links

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CIA Former CIA Director Michael Hayden insists the agency's interrogation methods provided a "Home Depot-like storage of information on Al Qaeda" in the wake of the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on torture. The report's appendix spends 37 pages, by the way, countering the claims about the program Hayden made in just one hearing.
- Other countries' leaders have mixed response to the torture report. Some are upset it happened but appreciate that the United States came clean. Poland's former president finally admitted that his country was the home of one of the CIA black sites used to interrogate detainees.
- A story that actor Lena Dunham described in her memoirs about an alleged sexual assault against her when she was a student at Oberlin has started falling apart. She has taken to BuzzFeed to defend herself.
- A House Committee is still trying to get at answers about the security lapses that led to four deaths at the Benghazi consulate in Libya, even though the Obama administration has been cleared of any wrong-doing.
- Here, have some evidence that increasing the minimum wage eliminates jobs to share with your friends.
- Detroit will finish the paperwork to exit bankruptcy today, according to the city's emergency manager.
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Former CIA Director Michael Hayden insists-
that you're a dumbass.
He does look like Red Forman.
Dumbass
Red Forman was also Clarence Boddicker in the original Robocop, and Robocop exacted some good old revenge on Clarence, IIRC.
"The Tigers are playin' - TO night! I never miss a game!"
"Bitches, leave!"
I know u are but wut am i
Hello.
"increasing the minimum wage eliminates jobs to share with your friends."
Ha, ha. I have no friends.
Facebook friends?
What the fuck is 'Facebook'? Sounds weird and creepy.
Kind of, I can poke you on Facebook.
What's so creepy. It's just a book made of human faces like the Necronomicon.
I'll be your friend, Mr. Rufus.
/shows Ed Gein shrine.
BFF?
*picks up Charlie Manson scrapbook*
Sure, man.
Detroit will finish the paperwork to exit bankruptcy today, according to the city's emergency manager.
So new creditors, line up for business!
Top 10 reasons why Lena Dunham is a cunt.
1) She's not funny but pretends to be funny. And not funny girls pretending to be funny are cunts.
They have the perfect personality profile to be targeted by any cult they're so fucking stupid and narcissistic. Even shitty, ineffective cults could find members among these quacks and retards.
They pretty much are a cult...
You can help by never defining a survivor by what has been taken from her.
This is exactly what you're all about, bitchzilla. You define this solemn fraternity of "survivors" and base your entire world around it.
Assuming the story is true, and if, as is sometimes claimed, most people who rape on college campuses are serial offenders, then by not pressing charges she is allowing a probable serial rapist to walk free and rape some more. She clearly is capable of reliving the experience. So what's her reason for not trying to save future victims?
Talk about a TLDR. Are there really people who read pages of navel-gazing crap like this?
.
Just like there's no right way to be a toddler killer.
You are not in control!
\Samuel L Jackson
"Barry" is pseudonym
"for my sister", she didn't add, "and 'my sister' is psuedonym for the neighbor's dog."
Dunham: "There is no right way to survive."
Iowahawk: "How did your sister do it?"
OH SHIT! LENA WAS REKT, M8!
Burge is an official "National Treasure". lulz
Los, no one is playing your game.
2) By likely making this rape story up, she mocks and diminishes real rape victims; particularly those who went though harrowing and horrible experiences.
She probably got her ass slapped and took offense.
I'm just guessing of course.
Random House did some serious damage control when it became clear "Barry" had lawyered up and was maybe going to raise $100k for legal fees. His gofundme has stalled since, but he was up to $20k in two days.
RH is offering to pay his initial costs and "fix" the book, and they were on it Monday A.M.
I had no intention of starting a game, I was merely stating an appropriate buzzfeed article title for Lena. But if we're playing games, let me get my naked twister out.
3) She thinks someone who is 28 has earned the right to publish a memoir.
Here, have some evidence that increasing the minimum wage eliminates jobs to share with your friends.
Those 14 million jobs are martyrs to the cause of a living wage for all (uh, except the 14 million).
It was 1.4 million jobs. RTFA, not just the URL. Are you really that willing to sacrifice quality in your insane quest for quantity and primacy?
Yes. Very much so.
What gave it away?
News? Rosetta data show evidence against hypothesis that Earth's water was brought by comets
I thought that by now it would have been clear to everyone that Earth's water came from Mars in an ancient Areforming project when the sun's output dropped, threatening to freeze all life on the (now) Red Planet.
I thought it came through a wormhole that connects us to other livable planets.
Those are stashed in the center of the gas giants, if you can find a Dweller who will admit it. *looks around for anyone who gets the reference...*
It was Iain M Banks' "The Algebraist". Awesome and ultimately very libertarian sci fi book for anyone looking for a new read.
Thanks for the tip!
Stargate? Gross.
If you were replying to me, no. Excellet Scottish science fiction writer.
Sadly deceased. No more Culture novels, which bites.
Results from Europe's Rosetta ... shows [sic] the water on the icy mass is unlike that on our planet.
"Unlike"? Mirror-imaged?
Different isotope ratios of hydrogen and oxygen, most likely.
Yep. Oh, well -- Back to Divine Creation!
What's the half life of water?
See below. It's the deuterium which is the tracer, and it is stable.
Different isotope ratios might be explained by the water on the comet being a different age than that on earth.
It is most likely Deuterium, which is stable.
It would be a whole new mystery if the comet was a different age than the Earth. The whole solar system should have formed at the same time.
Do we know it is from our system?
I assume this cannot be explained away by increased exposure to cosmic and solar radiation for 4.6 billion years?
(or the average residence time of water on earth so far... probably somewhere
"Because deuterium is destroyed in the interiors of stars faster than it is produced, and because other natural processes are thought to produce only an insignificant amount of deuterium, it is thought that nearly all deuterium found in nature was produced in the Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago, and that the basic or primordial ratio of hydrogen-1 (protium) to deuterium (about 26 atoms of deuterium per million hydrogen atoms) has its origin from that time."
The deuterium is not necessarily uniformly distributed - matter certainly is not. Even the cosmic background radiation is non-uniform.
That's the point. It's why you can use the locally varying concentrations to determine the origin of things.
Ice-9
If only.
It wears a mustache.
Or it has an isotopic ratio of deuterium to hydrogen four times the ratio of water on earth. Pick one.
I thought water came from Poseidon's sweat as he battled Cronos?
That wasn't sweat...
And what they were engaged in really wasn't what you'd call a battle.
Sword fight?
"Do you like gladiator films, Johnny?"
OECD finds increasing inequality lowers growth
Maybe they should decrease equality.
Which parallel universe did they use for their counterfactuals?
"Growing income inequality has reduced GDP growth in many industrialized countries, a new OECD report has REVEALED."
Whenever there is a study and someone writes that the study has 'revealed' or 'proven' something, I want to punch them.
Nitwit: Unless multiple studies are done and the result is replicated, a study has not proven anything. One study literally means nothing.
This is why modern social science is such a mess. People don't understand the importance of replicability, and mindlessly report individual studies as scientific fact without bothering to look at the methodology to even determine if it was well run.
Methinks they have the effect before the cause.
Or, you know, inequality and low growth could have the same cause.
Not saying that they're making that up, but (FTA):
provided the policies are well designed and implemented.
See, now that has gotta be conjecture, because there is no example in existence to check that against.
Organization composed mostly of social democracies advocates social democratic policies to fight income inequality!
faints
Has anybody seen the actual report, which DW apparently can't be fucked to link to? Does it use an actual fancy-pants model (which is still suspect, of course), or does it do something retarded like "if all deciles had grown at the same rate, what would the total growth rate be?"?
'Does it use an actual fancy-pants model (which is still suspect, of course), or does it do something retarded like "if all deciles had grown at the same rate, what would the total growth rate be?"?'
You mean like the sexual assault survey which found that 1/4 of college women are sexually assaulted and reached that number by studying two schools for one semester, adding up everything from 'unwanted touching' to 'sodomy with a pool cue' and calling it all 'rape,' and then randomly multiplying by 5 without proper explanation?
Silly libertarian, once a man in a lab coat has decreed it so, only a science denier would ask for evidence.
Here is the press version and here is the actual working paper.
They do use a fancy-pants model, not the retarded method, which is good.
From the abstract (emphasis mine):
i.e., the claim is not, as many lefties will undoubtedly claim, that the rich are too rich; the claim is that there is low human capital on the low end of the distribution.
FTA
Apparently capital investment reduces wealth while buying cigarettes creates wealth. I don't even...
Except that spending money doesn't increase wealth when progressives don't want it to.
For example, high spending on health care doesn't help the economy, which is why government has to nationalize the health care system.
Keynesian logic only works when progressives want it to work; the rest of the time they suddenly become budget hawks. See also: Progressives complaining about the cost of the Iraq War, despite the fact that in all other instances they claim deficits don't matter.
Progressives complaining about the cost of the Iraq War, despite the fact that in all other instances they claim deficits don't matter.
And, actually, from a Keynesian point of view, strictly on the economic front, they should have been cheerleaders for the war as stimulus. Kruggie suggested that alien invasion would be good for the economy.
Illegal Alien Invasion
Why, if that money weren't locked up in savings, just think of the broken windows it could buy!
Detroit will finish the paperwork to exit bankruptcy today, according to the city's emergency manager.
I felt a great disturbance in the bar, as if millions of lawyers suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
What's the over/under until they file again?
Poland's former president finally admitted that his country was the home of one of the CIA black sites used to interrogate detainees.
Um, you know who else used Polish land as though it was his own?
Empress Maria Teresa?
Otto von Bismarck?
That very nice man from Georgia? /Duranty
Archie Bunker?
Baidar Khan?
OT: Bengals coach Marvin Lewis calls Johnny Manziel a midget. Apologizes.
Cleveland strikes back, sending local TV personality and dwarf, 4'3" tall 'Lil John' Rinaldi to Lewis presser. Sitting in the front row Rinaldi questions:
Check the video
Not only will Johnny Football let Cleveland down one more time, he'll do it quicker, being closer to the ground and all.
Thanks, I'll be here all night.
Cleveland did not let me down this time!
A story that actor Lena Dunham described in her memoirs about an alleged sexual assault against her when she was a student at Oberlin has started falling apart. She has taken to BuzzFeed to defend herself.
So what's Dunham's reasoning for not reporting "Barry"'s "real" name? She can't really use the Jackie excuse of being scared of him, so why isn't she reporting this to try to warn people about this dangerous predator?
Only survivors get to determine how they survive or something.
These people are trivializing rape and making it harder for future victims. What a$$holes. I'm never buying Rolling Stone ever again.
I'm never buying Rolling Stone ever again.
I said that shit 25 years ago.
fuckin' old.
...even though the Obama administration has been cleared of any wrong-doing.
How can you do wrong when you're off innocently golfing or fundraising or whatever?
That reminds me. What's going on with the newly-retrieved Lois Lerner e-mails?
What?
LOOK, GRUBER! CIA TORTURE REPORT!
People who support high minimum wage don't give two shits about actual data.
I got in a twitter argument with Jamelle Bouie about this. He accused me of having the economic understanding of someone with just an Econ 101 education, and demanded empiric evidence. I then provided such evidence.
End of story: he totally changed his mind and is now a free market libertarian!*
*I may not be a reliable narrator on this point.
"I may not be a reliable narrator on this point."
Sure, but at what point were you sexually assaulted by a mustached Republican with purple cowboy boots?
Go on....
And when his friends forced you down, but before you ended up sixty-nining in the broken glass, did he walk around his accomplices, or use cables like in that Cirque du Soleil porn?
Or the people earning minimum wage, for that matter.
Emotions aren't actual data?
Not true. They care a whole lot about one study from 1994 that looked at a very isolated sample.
If they understood data, they wouldn't have to worry about making minimum wage.
"Other countries' leaders have mixed response to the torture report."
Responses include,
"You call that torture? Our meter maids can inflict more pain that that!"
"Hand these prisoners over to us, soon they'll *beg* for the mercy of waterboarding!"
"Wait, what's the controversy here? That you didn't kill enough prisoners?"
"Nearly split a gut from laughing! No wonder it's called 'The Torture Report'!
She has taken to BuzzFeed to defend herself.
Excellent, I don't visit BuzzFeed as a moral imperative. Her defense may fall in the woods, but I won't be around to hear it.
Let me guess what she titled it: 9 Reasons why the facts don't matter...
And it'll be posted either in the LOL or the FAIL sections. Do I have that about right?
It does have a certain Ned Flanders guilt feel to it.
Ned Flanders guilt feel
Everbody bitches about zombie Simpsons yet uses zombie Flanders all the time.
He was a zombie?
There was that Halloween episode...
Anyway I was referring to how people think 21th Century Simpsons suck yet used that part depiction of Flanders.
So, a Bob's Burgers-Simpsons crossover would involve Tina ogling Flanders and allow Homer to say, "Stupid sexy zombie-Flanders"
What are you guys going on about? I was referring to when Flanders swallowed a paper clip and was busting Loverjoy's balls with all those phone calls.
"Ned, have you ever considered any of the other religions? They're all pretty much the same."
I will file this with the metastudies indicating that eating a bullet is bad for your health.
Ole Keynes really did a number on this field.
Looks like I got scooped. 🙂
David Boaz: Eric Garner Could Spark American Spring
My comment
No hat tip? Riots.
"David Boaz: Eric Garner Could Spark American Spring"
So we'll overthrow our government, be plunged into a period of sectarian anarchy, and then come crawling back to the first strongman dictator who promises to restore order?
So which General looks like a good strongman?
That dude up there? ^^
Kristen, I feel if this gentleman were the commander, you'd be willing to... damn it, I had a pun involving flagpoles.
Do you have a pun about SFing the link?
Eat... Bullets. Damnit.
Here. Never let it be said that I never did anything for the people into fellas on this site
No...
Fucking 'The Donald' will be king, with his mercenary army of apprentii!
Sounds like a plan.
But that strongman will take some time to restore order to the whole country, meaning that in one corner of America, we could make... LIBERTOPIA!
http://bit.ly/1zQYvVk
It will take a man like that.
The "Authentic" part is a nice touch.
Friggin' Lena Dunham just can't stop #winning. Soon she's going to have 100% name recognition and a cohort of worshipful idolators who lick the sidewalk in advance of her every step. I put the odds at 50-50 that it's President Dunham before mid-century.
Incidentally, Rolling Stone maintains the appearance of relevance in what to be the hour of its deepest shame.
What was that saying about bad publicity?
Yeah, as much as I find her odious, and it is especially odious that she just fucked up some guy's life- paying attention to anything she does just fuels her.
Her show on HBO doesn't get a ton of viewers- even by HBO standards- but people talk about her and by extension HBO. A big part of HBO's original programming model is to be a network that people talk about.
It's like Pauly Shore. The only way we can get rid of some people is to ignore them until they go away.
Those people never go away willingly.
THE WEASEL
Has he resolved to freeze the weasel yet?
I just watched "Biodome" again recently.
On purpose.
Am I worse than Hitler?
Were you born in Brazil? Just curious.
Nein!
I mean...heh heh!
LOOK! LENA DUNHAM!
Was it done to settle a bet or debt? If not, then yes.
Woo hoo!!
*fires up the oven*
Indeed. I can't imagine her "defense" is anything but odious - she "chose to speak out" by burying the story in a playful memoir? - but I'm not going to give Buzzfeed the clicks to find out. She's a provocateur. Her schtick is largely based on getting people to talk about her as if she's anything but a normal person with medium talent.
Still, I don't think she's going to be on as many fingertips even a year from now.
It's even worse than that. At no point did she even intimate that she considered herself to be 'scarred' or 'traumatized' by the event.
Then someone threatens her with a lawsuit for basically libeling him, and all of the sudden she's a seriously traumatized survivor who people should stop being mean to.
Here's here defense, nearly in its entirety:
To be very clear, "Barry" is a pseudonym, not the name of the man who assaulted me, and any resemblance to a person with this name is an unfortunate and surreal coincidence. I am sorry about all he has experienced.
The rest of her BuzzFeed piece is exactly the sort of SJW blather you'd expect, making it clear that it's really All About Her.
The notion that she chose a pseudonym that is the unusual name of an actual prominent Oberlin Republican merely by "unfortunate and surreal coincidence" is, well...unlikely.
Apparently the NYT has mentioned Dunham 400 times since 2001. What the holy fuck?!
Marquette University, whose right to call itself a Catholic institution has not yet been revoked, suggests in its training materials that employees should inform on colleagues who oppose same-sex marriage.
And -
"Since 2012, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has considered discrimination based on "the belief that men should only date women or that women should only marry men" to be illegal under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. A spokeswoman for the EEOC told Catholic News Agency that "particular pejorative behavior or remarks about same-sex relationships," such as voicing opposition to gay marriage, could be "evidence of discriminatory motivation in a termination case.""
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....rine-timpf
"evidence of discriminatory motivation"
"Notice that in this photograph you are not holding a copy of the Training Manual."
HP is replacing transistors with memristors and copper with fibre optics to bring you THE MACHINE (and eventually a new OS called Carbon).
http://www.businessinsider.com.....16-2014-12
Apparently this will do all the work of a data centre in an area the size of a fridge. MIT says THE MACHINE will use 1.25% of the electricity of a normal computer. HP is getting really interesting they're also making a serious foray into 3D printing that might put competitors out of business.
When I want technology news, the first place I go is Business Insider!
Oh whatever. Look it up on Google News.
with MIT's Technology Review running SJW bullshit, where else can one look?
I tried reading it. I couldn't finish it. I am happy I dropped my subscription to that magazine long ago.
I stopped at this point:
Technologists love to celebrate the hacker and the programmer. What corporate roles are undervalued by the industry?
Obviously, programmers are important, but a very common dysfunction, particularly at technology startups, is privileging programmers. When you don't value other skills, your engineering team becomes very entitled and even abusive of other parts of the company. Really important functions, like marketing, sales, business development, finance, and legal, become underfunded and under-resourced. We often end up with companies with great technology that are nonetheless dying because they could not execute from a nontechnical standpoint.
Not every company overvalues software folks. The companies that do don't always have great technology and die, as they should if they don't meet customers desires and wants.
Does it kill fascists and play Pink Floyd when you boot it up?
No, no, that's just my copy of Wizard of Oz.
Want to know who we haven't heard from in a while?
Lindy West!
She continues to live in a bizarre parallel universe where she is funny and the following isn't horseshit:
I am not going to comment on whether any of that is true or not true.
What I find bothersome is that the incident that spurred all of this is completely unlike anything she describes above. Regardless of how much a woman drank, how little clothing she wore, etc., absolutely no one would have brought any of that up if what had happened at UVA was true. Literally no one would have excused that horrific event based on what "Jackie" had worn or what she had to drink that night.
I believe these sorts of things do and might discourage women from coming forward, but it would be nice if we had some accurate, factual stories of that sort of thing happening.
OT:
I watched the first 15 minutes of The Independents last night with my very well educated (very good private undergrad school, T-14 law school) liberal/progressive significant other. The first segment was about the torture report. The second topic was the Gruber hearing. Not only did she not know of the hearings, she had not even heard of Gruber. She gets her news from liberal/progressive news sources, so I'm not surprised she didn't know all the details. But she hadn't even heard of him. Blew my mind.
PICS YOU IDIOT
Um, he'll take pics the next time she visits. (She lives in Canada.)
He met her "online"
She's totally real guys. No, really. What's that look for?
They aren't low information voters for nothing.
I think it's more of an indictment of the media. The liberal media is pathetic.
There's only one thing to do BiMonSciCon...
Gas fight!
Orange Mocha Frappachino reference? I invented the piano key necktie!
You know it.
And then ironically be bombarded with letters offering them guaranteed auto loans.
Atheist activists want to repeal provisions in seven state constitutions excluding them from office, although thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court, these provisions are unenforceable.
"It would be unthinkable for such "naked bigotry" against white people or Presbyterians or Catholics to go unnoticed if state constitutions still contained it, said Rob Boston, director of communications for Americans United for Separation of Church and State, an advocacy group. "Right now we hear a lot of talk from conservative Christians about their being persecuted and their being forced to accommodate same-sex marriage. But there's nothing in the state constitutions that targets Christians like these provisions do about nonbelievers," Mr. Boston said."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12.....-ban-.html
OK, I get it.
No more "making fun" of Lobster Girl.
Holy shit, the radfems are doubling down on this UVA thing HARD. I think it's a bit like gun control legislation post-Sandy Hook. In their minds they were SO CLOSE to finally getting everything that they wanted, only now it's been fucked up (in one case by states refusing to roll over and pass gun control legislation, in this case by weakening the argument for kangaroo kourts on kampus) and they are DESPERATELY trying to spin this so that it doesn't snowball.
With that in mind, here's a fun article proving my point
Actualy, I was just looking and the same site wrote a follow-up article today entitled This might be the most important moment ever to fight rape on campus.
Like I said, desperate.
Not gonna lie - I bet this helps Phi Kappa Psi's next rush, yeah brah?
"Where all the drunken vulnerable coeds at?"
"actor Lena Dunham"
Please! The appropriate gender-neutral title is "Thing-Person"
Swamp Thing-Person
Still hotter than Lena
*Thing-Fish* is hotter than Lena.
Anyone else excited for Agent Carter about Captain America's girlfriend and super hot woman Haley Atwell as a 50s SHIELD spy?
Oh, myyyyyyyyyyyy.....
An I don't mean like Takei. NTTAWWT...
Ooo. My. She looks fertile.
Run *that* up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes.
Now run it back down. No, up again. Wait, no, down.
Unlike other police departments, the LAPD still knows how to act after they kill someone. Looks like they may have killed a street performer with a fake knife, and then planted a real knife on him.
http://photographyisnotacrime......performer/
Kitty friends!
A grateful commentariat thanks you...
Warty, I've realized with your habbit of rape and your love of small, furry animals, you are basically Lenny from Of Mice and Men.
What I'm saying is that you're retarded. And my thing is cuter.
It's true. I'm basically Gronk.
So is the best way to get onto the Pats roster to have a photographer capture you looking like a mega-douche?
Because that would explain a lot.
I will hug him and pet him and squeeze him and pat him and pet him and call him George
The laziest cat in the known universe.
What does that bird have to do - slather itself in gravy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sumn6flhNtg
"Hmmm...I have the feeling I ought to be doing something with this bird...but, frankly, I'm too tired to think about that right now."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbHhw9pFa0Q
Macadamia Sales Take Off After Korean Air Nut Row
"Yeah, you *better* run! Crawl back into the water and swim away!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiyWXQyAJ44
White House claims (Bush) Torture Program "Undermined America's Moral Authority"
- China butts in to add "also, the Spying on your own citizens? and throwing Free Speech under the bus? We're grateful for that as well, since now we can completely laugh in your face whenever you bring up the Human Rights Treaties in the UN and try to give anyone shit"
Hey. You. Yeah, you. Over there, waving your bloody shirt and your fake statistics. Fuck you.
With the GOP in a position of Power, Dems will resort to continuing to shove populist FEELS-NOT-LOGIC ideas so that Evil GOP can swat them down, so that they can ensure to keep their base riled up through 2016
I'm pretty conviced that Obama's immigration gauntlet was really just a move to force the GOP to try and pass legislation which everyone knows will (regardless of what it is) piss of a large swath of the most-conservative base for not being Tough Enough
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....8249737325
^^ Holy shit.
"They said there are mounting inconsistencies with the original narrative in the magazine. The students also expressed suspicions about Jackie's allegations from that night. They said the name she provided as that of her date did not match anyone at the university, and U-Va. officials confirmed to The Post that no one by that name has attended the school.
And photographs that were texted to one of the friends showing her date that night actually were pictures depicting one of Jackie's high school classmates in Northern Virginia. That man, now a junior at a university in another state, confirmed that the photographs are of him and said he barely knew Jackie and hasn't been to Charlottesville for at least six years."
Well, this sure does look like Jackie made the whole story up, doesn't it?
Also:
"The Rolling Stone article also said that Randall declined to be interviewed, "citing his loyalty to his own frat." He told The Post that he never was contacted by Rolling Stone and would have agreed to an interview. The article's writer, Sabrina Rubin Erdely, did not respond to requests for comment this week."
Well, Sabrina Erdely is never going to work again.
HOW DARE YOU NOT BELIEVE HER YOU RAPE APOLOGIST?
Well, this sure does look like Jackie made the whole story up, doesn't it?
So what? It's really about bringing attention to the epidemic of rape on campus you rape denialist!
But seriously, it seems that the emerging apologia for this whole clusterfuck is that narratives and stories and 'speaking out' are more important than actual fact-finding.
Dunham's Buzzfeed defense of her memoir is basically a demand that all women who claim to be raped be automatically afforded victim status and a ton of emotional support.
I certainly don't see any perverse incentives in that system, do you?
And photographs that were texted to one of the friends showing her date that night actually were pictures depicting one of Jackie's high school classmates in Northern Virginia.
There's one very crucial point of clarification needed here: does this mean she texted people these photos on the night of the alleged attack, or was it sometime after the fact?
And the fact that her friends still seem very concerned and very convinced that something traumatic happened to Jackie--even after Jackie painted them as callous psychopaths in her account to Rolling Stone--still leads me to think that *something* had to have happened to this girl. But it's increasingly clear we're dealing with a somewhat disturbed individual--so it's becoming very hard to draw conclusions about what went on that night at all.
"--still leads me to think that *something* had to have happened to this girl."
Its RASHOMON, Jake
Some people are just crazy, bra.
Barry released a statement through his lawyer.