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Former Obama Adviser Admits Gruber Was Behind Obamacare, IRS Wants to Tax British Mayor, KKK and Anonymous Face Off Over Ferguson: P.M. Links

J.D. Tuccille | 11.18.2014 4:30 PM

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    "Jonathan Gruber was, back in the day in 2009, the guru on health care," says former Obama adviser Steve Rattner, contradicting, just a tad, his former boss, who denies any knowledge of the troublesome Affordable Care Act architect.

  • To head off unilateral presidential action on immigration, Republicans are looking at cutting off the flow of cash that's already been authorized.
  • The Internal Revenue Service says that Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, who was born in the United States but hasn't lived here since he was five, has to pay American taxes. Johnson, who is considered a possible future British prime minister, says the IRS can get stuffed.
  • A lot of Americans don't realize that they're in for a tax penalty because they haven't signed up for Obamacare-approved health coverage. A lot of other Americans do know what's coming, but would rather pay the damages than knuckle under.
  • Even before anybody know what will come out of the grand jury in the Michael Brown case, heavy-handed security precautions are raising a few eyebrows.
  • Germany's foreign minister is shuttling back and forth trying to keep the situation in Ukraine from getting even more shoot-y.
  • After a bunch of KKK losers threatened "lethal force" against Ferguson protesters, they were targeted and doxed by Anonymous.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    "Jonathan Gruber was, back in the day in 2009, the guru on health care," says former Obama adviser Steve Rattner, contradicting, just a tad, his former boss, who denies any knowledge of the troublesome Affordable Care Act architect.

    Frankly, I'm dubious this Gruber character even exists.

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      Oh, looks like Rattner just volunteered to become an unperson, too.

    2. some guy   10 years ago

      It's amazing what can be done with CGI these days. Just look at the current GOP leadership.

      1. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

        Boehner's orange glow gives him away.

        1. some guy   10 years ago

          He's certainly the least convincing of the bunch.

        2. The DerpRider   10 years ago

          He's terrible at kick the can. You can spot him a block away.

    3. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

      Hello.

      "Jonathan Gruber was, back in the day in 2009, the guru on health care," says former Obama adviser Steve Rattner, contradicting, just a tad, his former boss, who denies any knowledge of the troublesome Affordable Care Act architect"

      These people are sociopaths.

      1. CatoTheElder   10 years ago

        When his connections with domestic terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn became public knowledge, Obama said Ayers was just some guy who lived in his neighbor, and denied that he had launched his campaign at Ayers' house.

    4. MJGreen   10 years ago

      It sounds made-up. Jonathan? Gruber? I don't think so.

      1. Clich? Bandit   10 years ago

        I am still pissed my "HANS GRUBER!" joke fell flat last week...screw you guys, i'm going home.

    5. waffles   10 years ago

      I read on this right wing fascist site that if Gruber didn't exist they would have to exhume Ayn Rand so she could invent him as one of her villains.

      1. JEP   10 years ago

        Maybe she's been spending her time learning how to better develop plots?

        Or at the very least not to get a soap box in the middle of a novel?

    6. Anonymous Coward   10 years ago

      Frankly, I'm dubious this Gruber character even exists.

      Doesn't exist as in an elaborate CGI? Or doesn't exist in a Vince Foster sort of way?

      1. Slammer   10 years ago

        Or doesn't exist in a Vince Foster sort of way?

        Nothing's off the table with this crew

        1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

          Wrong crew.

  2. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

    "Jonathan Gruber was, back in the day in 2009, the guru on health care," says former Obama adviser Steve Rattner, contradicting, just a tad, his former boss, who denies any knowledge of the troublesome Affordable Care Act architect.

    "I've never heard of this Rattner guy."

    1. John   10 years ago

      That was like a hundred years or go or something. Who cares about it now?

    2. Bam!   10 years ago

      First Obama heard about him was when he read about it in the paper.

      1. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

        And he's mad as hell!

    3. Unusual Dave   10 years ago

      Psh, fake scandal.

    4. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      That dirty Ratt-ner!

      Snitches get stitches, you!

    5. Bill Dalasio   10 years ago

      Nice stadium your brother has there, Steve. Shame if something were to happen to it...

  3. Mike M.   10 years ago

    Enjoy your six foot blizzard, western New York.

    That "global warming" is some kind of bitch.

    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

      You've been politely warned. Don't forget that.

    2. some guy   10 years ago

      This is weather. There's plenty of evidence against catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. This isn't it. Just like Katrina wasn't evidence for CAGW.

      1. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

        All I know is 4 hurricanes hitting Florida in a year was climate change and blizzards in the middle of November in the Great Lakes region is weather.

    3. SoCal Deathmarch   10 years ago

      If you are using the Progs argument against themselves in a sarcastic manner please apply a Sarc Tag. If you really believe weather is climate, well then you are retarded.

      1. Zeb   10 years ago

        I think he thinks he is being clever. Retardation cannot be ruled out, though.

      2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        This.

      3. grrizzly   10 years ago

        Other than mockery, climate change doesn't deserve any discussion anymore.

        1. Zeb   10 years ago

          Other than mockery, climate change doesn't deserve any discussion anymore.

          Isn't that what the alarmists say? Are you serious, or mocking those people?
          Climate change certainly should be discussed. The problem is that the discussions that dominate today are about the wrong things. Climate does change and people do have to adapt to it.

          1. Idle Hands   10 years ago

            In his defense the argument has been rephrased from man made global warming to climate change to make the detractors of man made global warming look even more like asshats when they say they don't believe in it. I just assume when most people are talking about climate change they mean global warming as stupid as it is.

            1. Zeb   10 years ago

              Yeah, I know. It just all annoys me. I think it is a legitimately interesting subject and I want to be able to have a real discussion about it. But that's just about impossible these days.

              1. Idle Hands   10 years ago

                I'm in the same boat. Identity politics ruin nearly everything.

              2. Mike M.   10 years ago

                Yeah, I know. It just all annoys me.

                The question that gentleman asked you is just as germane today as it was a week ago. Who the fuck cares if it annoys you?

                1. Zeb   10 years ago

                  Some people do. You don't, evidently. That doesn't mean it's not a stupid and tiresome thing to say every fucking day.

          2. grrizzly   10 years ago

            The alarmists (I'm not sure if I should include you in their numbers) refuse to accept that it is their responsibility to prove that whatever climate change is happening is anthropogenic. The global warming scientists might be slightly aware that the anthropogenic part has to be tested as a falsifiable hypothesis but after 30 years of screeching about global warming they obviously cannot do it. The rest of the alarmists operate on the level scientific consensus == scientific proof.

            Catastrophic anthropogenic global warming is a mildly interesting scientific theory in a largely unimportant field that has been repeatedly falsified despite billions of dollars spent to prove it.

            1. BigT   10 years ago

              Hypothesis, not theory. And largely disproven. Correlation is not causation, but anti-correlation disproves causation.

    4. Rhywun   10 years ago

      My old stomping grounds. Damn I miss real weather.

      1. Warty   10 years ago

        Does this mean you have some kind of horrible Western New York accent? The Great Lakes vowel shift must be destroyed.

        1. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

          It is the way real people speak.

      2. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   10 years ago

        I miss real weather

        Or is it climate? I forget. Maybe someone will come along to lecture me on the difference?

  4. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    After a bunch of KKK losers threatened "lethal force" against Ferguson protesters, they were targeted and doxed by Anonymous.

    The SWAT team are members of the Klan?

    1. Andrew S.   10 years ago

      Free Carl Lee!

    2. John   10 years ago

      I think the KKK people were inadvertently trying to help those people. If the protestors have convinced themselves that they are going to be able to go and loot white neighborhoods over this, it is not going to end well for them.

    3. Kaptious Kristen   10 years ago

      "Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses"

      1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

        Uhhhh!!!

        1. Florida Man   10 years ago

          "Come on!!!!"

      2. Timon 19   10 years ago

        err..."were enforcers"

  5. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

    WhatsApp co-founder donates $1 million to FreeBSD Foundation.

    In related news, seals caught having sex with penguins.

    1. paranoid android   10 years ago

      But the new observations suggest that having sex with penguins may be becoming a learned behaviour among seals on the island.
      "Seals have capacity for learning - we know this from their foraging behaviour for example," explained de Bruyn.
      So male seals may see each other coercing penguins, then attempt it themselves.
      That might explain why the number of incidents appears to be increasing. "I genuinely think the behaviour is increasing in frequency."

      See, this is what happens when don't teach seals not to rape.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

        'Seals rape Penguins next on National Geographic!'

      2. Slammer   10 years ago

        Does anyone speak penguin? They may be giving enthusiastic consent.

        1. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

          They may be giving enthusiastic consent.

          You can tell by the happy feet.

      3. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

        The worst was this show I saw on elephant seals. So basically the girl elephant seal all only allow the one bad boy alpha male seal to bang them. So the other male elephant seals are all left with blue balls. So to get their release they rape the baby elephant seals and of course they are so big they end up crushing many of them to death in the process. Thatvis some messed up system.

        1. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

          All the girls only bang the one dude just to make that more clear.

    2. Tonio   10 years ago

      That is just bizarre.

      1. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

        Yeah, seriously. OpenBSD would have been much more worthy of the money.

        1. Tonio   10 years ago

          Ha! Good one.

        2. Timon 19   10 years ago

          What about NetBSD? Why do you hate NetBSD?

        3. NotAnotherSkippy   10 years ago

          Exactly what I was thinking.

    3. Tonio   10 years ago

      Oh, and this also demolishes the whole non-procreative sex is un-natural argument, since it occurs, you know, in actual nature. Suck it, snowcones.

      1. Warty   10 years ago

        It's not like that wasn't known by anyone who's ever been to a zoo.

      2. The Last American Hero   10 years ago

        Snowcones never had a dog hump their leg?

      3. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   10 years ago

        I believe penguins can be gay, too.

        Trend-setters in the animal kingdom.

        1. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

          If they don't have any other options.

      4. Horatio   10 years ago

        Perfectly "natural", just not a winning evolutionary formula.

        1. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

          The fact it shows up in so many species suggests it is a winning evolutionary formula in some way we don't understand.

      5. John Titor   10 years ago

        There was a whole thing at the turn of the century (I believe?) where early Antarctic researchers couldn't believe how perverse penguins were sexually. Apparently they're really into homosexuality and necrophilia.

        1. jesse.in.mb   10 years ago

          I believe one of the explorers couldn't or wouldn't publish his notes because of how inappropriately they behaved.

      6. Acosmist   10 years ago

        Then everything that is is natural. So no, that's a pretty elementary fallacy.

        1. jesse.in.mb   10 years ago

          I do like the arc this has taken over the past hundred years or so:

          Reverend: "Homosexuality isn't natural! People only do it out of perversion."

          Homo: "Wait, a bunch of animals do it, I guess it is natural."

          Reverend: "Man can overcome the basic instincts of animals! Homosexuality is bestial."

          Homo: "Wait, why were you just hectoring us a minute ago about it being unnatural"

      7. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

        Rape is perfectly natural in the same way. Suck that, libertines.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    Even before anybody know what will come out of the grand jury in the Michael Brown case, heavy-handed security precautions are raising a few eyebrows.

    The proof will be in the pudding. Or, we have to release the decision before we know what's in it.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      Yeah, let's wait for the "protesters'" reaction before saying the police response was "heavy handed."

      1. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

        Yeah, some of those protestors could have Ebola. Sure we have no evidence any of them do, but they MIGHT have Ebola.

        1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

          So the chance of riots is about as small as the chance of one of the rioters having Ebola? How reassuring!

          1. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

            No, was just pointing out the same "we need a heavy handed response now because some hypothetical future might justify it later" logic.

            1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

              Ah, so you're retarded.

    2. Jerryskids   10 years ago

      I suspect the prosecutor knew what the grand jury was going to decide before the jury was even impaneled - the grand jury is going to decide whatever the hell the prosecutor tells them they're going to decide. You really think the prosecutor and the local PD and the staties and the gov didn't all discuss this beforehand so that they all know their parts and have their lines well rehearsed?

  7. Winston   10 years ago

    Jerry Brown, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Fauxcahontas. The Dems are really the Party of Modernity and Teh Yutes aren't they?

    1. John   10 years ago

      Jerry fucking Brown. They really are hitting rock bottom aren't they?

      1. Winston   10 years ago

        You Know Which other ruling leftwing party had a choice between a bunch of old fogeys and a "reformer"?

        1. grrizzly   10 years ago

          Who is the "reformer" among the Dems?

          1. Winston   10 years ago

            Fauxcahontas.

            1. jesse.in.mb   10 years ago

              Nooooooo. She cannot get the nom. I will not lose this bet with Sudden.

            2. BigT   10 years ago

              She prefers Lie-awatha.

        2. SoCal Deathmarch   10 years ago

          Van Halen?

        3. Tonio   10 years ago

          The US Democrats in 1968?

    2. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   10 years ago

      Jerry Brown is really hip and with-it.

      He used to date Linda Ronstadt.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

        Did she write 'You're no good' for him?

      2. Trouser-Pod   10 years ago

        Well, he IS doing a really good job*...

        *according to her

      3. Horatio   10 years ago

        The chick from Pirates of Penzance?

  8. Jerry on the sea   10 years ago

    The family of Reggae icon Bob Marley and a Seattle-based private equity firm on Tuesday said they are launching the first global cannabis brand with marijuana products sold under a name long tied to a plant he lovingly called "the herb".

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      Bob Marley, linked to marijuana? When did this happen?

    2. Zeb   10 years ago

      Not really relevant, but I recently learned that Bob Marley was half white. Thought that was interesting.

      1. Horatio   10 years ago

        Saw the documentary "Marley" recently - fantastic. His dad wasn't just white, he was The Birth of A Nation white, and had a serious love of black Jamaicans (who doesn't?)

    3. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

      Which celebrity/historical figure's reputation has been most debased by their family shameless exploiting it for money?

      1. Horatio   10 years ago

        The Kennedy's?

      2. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   10 years ago

        This isn't one of those times when Hitler is the obvious answer, is it?

      3. Slammer   10 years ago

        Jesus?

      4. Faceless Commenter   10 years ago

        Honey Boo-boo?
        Martin Luther King?

      5. OneOut   10 years ago

        Michael Jackson without a doubt.

        His family tried to charge one town to put up a memorial to him.

        Beats Lisa Marie Presley hands down.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    A lot of Americans don't realize that they're in for a tax penalty because they haven't signed up for Obamacare-approved health coverage.

    I wonder who a majority of the voters among them cast their ballot for.

    1. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   10 years ago

      47%?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

        THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER TO MY NON-QUESTION.

        1. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   10 years ago

          THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER TO MY NON-QUESTION.

          1. Sevo   10 years ago

            8%

  10. Mike M.   10 years ago

    Keystone looks like it will probably be one vote short in the senate.

    Oh well. Ram that son of a bitch down his fucking throat in the first week next year.

    1. John   10 years ago

      Yup. Just go nuclear and make Obama veto it and the Democrats vote to uphold it. Make them own that fucking thing.

      1. Idle Hands   10 years ago

        Even if they approve it, doesn't it have to be passed by state? So it seems to me the vote is meaningless, right?

        1. John   10 years ago

          No. The feds own the jurisdiction. If the feds approve it, it goes forward.

          1. Idle Hands   10 years ago

            I meant the state department. Isn't it an executive action?

            1. Wasteland Wanderer   10 years ago

              State Dept. has jack all to do with it. Congress needs to pass it, and then the president needs to sign it (or at least not veto it).

    2. Faceless Commenter   10 years ago

      omg, what is that screaming in the Senate gallery? Mary Landrieu's underwear gnomes?

    3. Brian   10 years ago

      Dysfunctional , do-nothing congress!

  11. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    Johnson, who is considered a possible future British prime minister, says the IRS can get stuffed.

    No taxation without representation.

    1. -Umbriel-   10 years ago

      What's the world coming to when Boris Johnson and I actually agree on something?

      1. wwhorton   10 years ago

        Maybe more than one thing? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sci.....users.html

        1. Raven Nation   10 years ago

          Dawkins too:

          http://www.foxnews.com/science.....ies-shirt/

          FTA:
          Do not blame feminism for the pompous idiots whining about a Rosetta scientist's shirt...

        2. -Umbriel-   10 years ago

          Okay... The twofer's really freaking me out...

      2. Zeb   10 years ago

        I like Boris.

    2. The DerpRider   10 years ago

      That hair cannot be taxed!

    3. some guy   10 years ago

      Looks like someone is going to get arrested next time he attends a summit in the States... yeah right.

    4. BigT   10 years ago

      No procreation without taxation.

  12. Winston   10 years ago

    Why is Nancy Pelosi still House minority leader? The GOP under Boehner has had a larger majority then under Gingrich and Hastert. In fact this is pretty much the most GOP Congress since the days of Calvin Coolidge.

    1. Winston   10 years ago

      but she needs to stay all the more because the party lost seats.

      Such leadership!

      1. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   10 years ago

        You have to lose the congress to find out what's in it.

    2. Dr. Fronkensteen   10 years ago

      Seriously, our local country club has a greater percentage of Democrats in it than this Congress.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    ...Republicans are looking at cutting off the flow of cash that's already been authorized.

    GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN.

  14. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Many of the sites seized during the latest Dark Net raids were 'clones' that aren't the actual site. It seems the FBI or the media has been exaggerating the power of law enforcement to compromise Tor.

    instead of finding a dark market's onion address and then tracing it back to a host server to capture the operator, law enforcement agents appear to have done the opposite ? identifying specific hosting companies and then seizing the hidden sites they serve.

    http://www.coindesk.com/third-.....us-clones/

    1. Doghouse Riley Jr.   10 years ago

      The more they tighten their grip, the more systems slip through their fingers?

    2. Medical Physics Guy   10 years ago

      Even if they do succeed it's not much trouble to port to i2p which from what I understand is airtight

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        We can outrun them.

    3. MJGreen   10 years ago

      Ha ha! /Nelson Muntz

  15. John   10 years ago

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-G.....n-St-Louis

    Here you see why the left wants gun control. The protest organizers in Ferguson claim that social change can only be achieved by making "white people afraid". As it is, that claim is laughable. But if the Left ever got its way and disarmed the country, it would be deadly serious. These professional protestors and their mobs would be a real menace and would enable to left to terrorize their political enemies with impunity.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      +1 Weimar Republic

      1. Mike M.   10 years ago

        We've got a Shickelgruber making big news, so we may as well have a Weimar Republic and a Reichstag Fire to go along with him.

    2. Horatio   10 years ago

      You're wrong here, John. I've seen Gangs of New York and mob violence was not a problem before guns were easily available.

      1. John   10 years ago

        For sure. Mobs of angry Irish immigrants never attacked black innocent black people over the draft in the Civil War. Never happened man.

        1. Horatio   10 years ago

          First you tell me guns PROTECT people and now you say there were racists in the North?!? Go home, you're drunk.

  16. The Other Kevin   10 years ago

    Good news! Looks like my company's health insurance will not be cancelled, and has been renewed for another year. Plus only a $40 per month increase. Thanks ACA, for kicking me in the shins instead of the balls this time!

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      Happy for you, bro.

    2. CatoTheElder   10 years ago

      My ObamaCare premium, which only covers my wife and me with a bronze plan's $7000 deductible, used to be $999/mo.

      Despite all the gloomy predictions of ObamaCare detractors, it only went up by $260/mo. So it's only going to be $1259/mo.

      Thanks Obama!

      Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, my mandatory healthcare premium is higher than my mortgage and car payments!

      1. Hyperion   10 years ago

        At least you can feel good subsidizing all the welfare queens and their half dozen feral offspring. So there's something that you got.

  17. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

    EFF, Mozilla, Cisco, Akamai, IdenTrust, and University of Michigan researchers are starting a new, free certificate authority. The discussion on Hacker News was unsurprisingly cancerous.

    Open Whisper Systems partners with WhatsApp to provide end-to-end encryption. Of course Facebook (WhatsApp's parent) is evil so just use iMessage.

    1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      This is excellent and should be in the PM Links.

      1. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

        - what Cytotoxic's mom said about the photo I sent her last night

        1. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   10 years ago

          Nobody wants to see a picture of your junk!

          1. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

            Negging doesn't work on me.

            1. d3x / dt3   10 years ago

              Racist!

    2. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

      The NSA is a silent partner in this endeavor?

    3. Timon 19   10 years ago

      Why was the discussion cancerous? Because of Cisco and UM? That would be why I'd be suspicious.

    4. Hyperion   10 years ago

      I use WhatsApp, but I only talk to my wife on it and the notoriety of our conversation is typically something like:

      Wifey: Hey can you stop at at the store and get some milk on you're way home from the office?

      Me: Sure, sweety, luv u.

      Wifey: Luv u 2.

      Not too worried about WhatsApp encryption.

      Email and browsing, a little more so.

  18. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

    OMG the Pope is Catholic!

    Next, an in-depth investigation of what bears do in the woods.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Internat.....g-26962771

  19. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

    In today's Pants Shitting: Local Edition

    My area high school is shut down due to a "social media threat".

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com.....a-threats/

    1. Doghouse Riley Jr.   10 years ago

      I'm sure the students will learn their lesson and never abuse their awesome power to make authority act like idiots with a few vague threats.

  20. John   10 years ago

    http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/.....rats/?dcz=

    One could only imagine the national uproar the media would orchestrate if Boehner tried to deny a pregnant women her vote in the caucus in order to get one his cronies elected ranking member.

    1. some guy   10 years ago

      Principals, John. Principals.

    2. LynchPin1477   10 years ago

      But of course liberal media bias is just a right wing meme.

    3. Wasteland Wanderer   10 years ago

      House Democrats are continuing to criticize Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's refusal to allow Rep. Tammy Duckworth ? a double amputee Iraq War veteran whose pregnancy has made her unable to travel ? to vote by proxy in leadership elections this week.

      Jesus, Pelosi should have just kicked a dog instead.

      1. Pope Jimbo   10 years ago

        How did Duckworth run for office? Maybe she had an incredible stump speech?

        Also, Mr. Duckworth is either a really great guy who still loves his wife even after she lost her legs in the war, or he is a sick, sick fuck.

        1. BigT   10 years ago

          I see what you did there. Apologize!

    4. Robert S.   10 years ago

      From the story:

      "Our party should be the party that stands up for women," Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida said in a caucus meeting Tuesday morning, according to a source in the room.

      Oh Debbie.

  21. The Immaculate Trouser   10 years ago

    New Hampshire elected a gay, rationalist, left-libertarian identifying Democrat -- and she's actually pretty damn good:

    Here is how I originally decided to run for office:

    Fundamental goal: helping people by reducing the causes of human suffering. (This hasn't changed.)

    I believed government is a major cause of suffering. E.g. war, the prison-industrial complex, the criminalization of poverty.

    I believed as a general rule, peaceful, voluntary interactions (liberty) are superior to coercion (government). I self-identified as a libertarian and moved to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project.

    I saw some wins for liberty in the State House and some losses. I wanted to help liberty "win" in the State House, so I decided to run for state representative.

    Though there is also some "meh" in there:

    Here is my big confession: I am in a state of flux. My opinions are not fixed. I am capable of changing my mind.

    What can change my mind? Evidence. If you have strong evidence that a policy will have good results, please bring it to me, and I will consider that policy.
    [...]

    If you're not a libertarian and you have good evidence for a specific policy you think I should support, please e-mail me at ecomstockedwards (at) gmail (dot) com. Anecdotes are insufficient.

    1. The Immaculate Trouser   10 years ago

      Even more amazing than all of the above? She has a nice rack.
      /nofemalelibertarians

      1. John   10 years ago

        Damn straight she does. She is cute. And wow what a wrack.

        /why Virginia Postrel hates us.

        1. paranoid android   10 years ago

          And also, probably, a contributing factor to why Edwards is a lesbian.

          1. John   10 years ago

            I don't men liking her wrack drove her to the other team. Women like nice racks too.

            1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

              Nice rack, Guy!

              http://www.crtdot.com/wordpres.....ure450.jpg

              1. RightofCenter   10 years ago

                Don't call me Guy, buddy!

                1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

                  Don't call me buddy, friend!

                  1. d3x / dt3   10 years ago

                    Don't call me friend, bro!

                    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

                      Don't call me bro, pal!

                    2. BigT   10 years ago

                      Don't call me pal, dog!

          2. OneOut   10 years ago

            I could fix her.

        2. The DerpRider   10 years ago

          The buttons on that shirt are screaming for help.

    2. John   10 years ago

      What can change my mind? Evidence. If you have strong evidence that a policy will have good results, please bring it to me, and I will consider that policy.

      And so begins the long march to hell.

      1. LynchPin1477   10 years ago

        I'd say the road to hell begins when you toss evidence out the window. Then it becomes all about what is supposed to happen in a tidy, hypothetical world, instead of what actually happens IRL.

        1. John   10 years ago

          They never toss all the evidence out the window. They keep the evidence that supports their assumptions and throw the counter evidence out the window.

          This girl seems nice and I am sure she is better than most other political creatures. It is just that she is naive if she things there are these great evidence based policies out there. There just are not. What there is is a few things that only government can do and thus require us to tolerate government in all its awfulness doing them. That is it.

          1. Overt   10 years ago

            It's not just the natural human tendency towards confirmation bias, it is also the fact that evidence cannot stand in the way for principles.

            We could have a perfect drug that is safe and removes all desire for crime. Forcing it down the throats of people to get rid of crime is wrong, no matter how much evidence you have to its merits.

            Pragmatism is important, but it cannot replace a foundation of core principles.

    3. LynchPin1477   10 years ago

      I want to move to New Hampshire.

      1. The Immaculate Trouser   10 years ago

        In all seriousness, Reason should profile her. I know very little about her, but she seems like an interesting person with a unique point of view -- plus, it's better evidence for the "libertarian moment" than yet another article about the "unclaimed" millenials or shit urban hipsters like that is being regulated to death.

        Plus, she has awesome boobs. More pics plz

        1. LynchPin1477   10 years ago

          It's nice to see someone with a D next to their name talk like a libertarian, too.

          1. The Immaculate Trouser   10 years ago

            Yes, that is my thought. It would be nice to have her talk about why she thinks the D party is a good one for liberty-friendly politics, and how she did it.

            Lines like these make me like her a little more, as well:

            Posts I'm planning on making soon:

            Advice Received So Far

            Is the New Hampshire State House Optimized for Good Decisions?

            Reasons Why You Shouldn't Have Voted for Me (or Anybody Else)

            1. John   10 years ago

              The Democratic Party has to get better. It does no good to pull the Republicans towards Libertarians if the Democrats remain completely insane.

              1. Zeb   10 years ago

                NH democrats that get elected tend to be pretty middle of the road. It's been a while since any Democrat has challenged the wisdom that no one gets elected governor without pledging not to support any personal income or general sales taxes. And I think a big reason they have done relatively well lately is that the NH Republican party can't seem to find any candidates than anyone is particularly interested in, especially for governor.

                1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

                  NH democrats that get elected tend to be pretty middle of the road.

                  Take a hard cold look at Maggie Hassan and then tell that to me again with a straight face.

          2. Zeb   10 years ago

            There have actually been a few others associated with FSP elected as Democrats. One was even a self-identified an-cap (I think he was gay too). Though I think he might have been elected by people who just vote for all the Ds on the list. House candidates don't get a lot of media exposure in NH since there is one for every 3000 people or so.

          3. BigT   10 years ago

            "It's nice to see someone with a D next to their name talk like a libertarian, too."

            They are C, tops.

            1. BuSab Agent   10 years ago

              A public service message from one of the very few libertarian women regarding boobs and bra sizes:

              The cup size is relative, not absolute. Using myself as an example my ribcage is 28 inches but the measurement with breasts is 36 inches. My correct bra size is 28H. This is a size virtually impossible to find at anything other than high end boutiques so I fudge it and wear 30E or 32DD. My DIL is also 36 inches in the boob department but her ribcage is 34, so her correct bra size is is 34C or 36B.

              Visually, that lady looks like she has a smallish ribcage so she's at least a DD or E.

              1. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

                I'm a visual learner myself.

        2. PapayaSF   10 years ago

          +1

    4. Slammer   10 years ago

      I'd give her some 'evidence' to 'change her mind'.

    5. Free Society   10 years ago

      What can change my mind? Evidence. If you have strong evidence that a policy will have good results, please bring it to me, and I will consider that policy.

      A person can be presented with convincing evidence of all sorts things. If a person wants to implement policy based on assumption that it will have "good results", they need to recognize the validity of certain principles needed to even know what constitutes a "good result". Otherwise they're just a utilitarian moving the goalposts.

      1. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

        She's young and probably still trying to figure it all out. She seems to be heading in the right direction.

  22. The DerpRider   10 years ago

    Anti-nut punch. Detroit cop gets 15 years for sexual assault while on duty.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      So his crime was 15 times worse than that other cop we heard about the other day, who got 1 year for having an affair with a 17-year old in a love nest he coerced a landlord into giving him, and for trying to cover up the offense?

      1. The DerpRider   10 years ago

        Stop up punching nuts...

      2. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

        He got 19 months to 15 years. Not 15 years. Hope you still had some nut balm left.

    2. The Last American Hero   10 years ago

      Working class heroes.

  23. Every Cop is a Criminal   10 years ago

    TSA: OK to bring your ice skates on plane, but not fake chain saw

    http://www.startribune.com/lif.....78131.html

    1. The Last American Hero   10 years ago

      Apparently TSA isn't aware of the Iron Lotus.

      1. Every Cop is a Criminal   10 years ago

        All I know is that you can bludgeon someone to death with a hokey skate with just one or two blows. Or just slash a throat.

        1. Every Cop is a Criminal   10 years ago

          *hockey"

  24. The_Millenial   10 years ago

    More Gruber fun:

    Gruber praises the Dems' Realpolitik Approach back in 2007


    How the White House Used Jonathan Gruber's Work to Orchestrate the Appearance of Broad Consensus

  25. The_Millenial   10 years ago

    Gruber fun continued:

    Jonathan Cohn Rewrites History for Jonathan Gruber

    Gruber dispenses Political Strategy in 2009

  26. The_Millenial   10 years ago

    Last one:

    Revealed: Gruber's Two Very Different Accounts Of His 2006 Meeting With Obama

    1. OldMexican   10 years ago

      This is all so Gruberlicious!

      1. The_Millenial   10 years ago

        Will they ever trust Gruber again? He sure loves to talk.

    2. Raven Nation   10 years ago

      This one already posted? Obama says he stole some ideas from Gruber:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9M0sWzWj7A

      1. The_Millenial   10 years ago

        Suderman has included it in an article, but the article above is referring to a 2006 meeting that wasn't taped (as far as we know).

  27. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Johnson, who is considered a possible future British prime minister, says the IRS can get stuffed.

    "Of course you know, THIS MEANS WAR!"

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      At last, America has her revenge for British taxation without representation.

  28. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Even before anybody know what will come out of the grand jury in the Michael Brown case, heavy-handed security precautions are raising a few eyebrows.

    Have they taken the Brown family into "protective custody"?

    1. PapayaSF   10 years ago

      No, I think they're still on their European White Guilt Tour.

      1. Free Society   10 years ago

        nice

    2. OneOut   10 years ago

      ferguson protester at "Fuck The Police Protest" gets car stolen.

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.co.....ice-rally/

      I wonder if she is going to file a police report ?

      1. Free Society   10 years ago

        I wonder if she is going to file a police report ?

        Since the police have jurisdictional law enforcement monopolies.... yes. Derp.

        1. LarryA   10 years ago

          That, and you can't file a stolen vehicle insurance claim without one.

  29. Anonymous Coward   10 years ago

    Jonathan Gruber? Who's That? Just Stopped By the White House 21 Times.

    The ObamaCare consultant drawing fire for mocking the "stupidity of the American voter" visited the White House on nearly two dozen occasions and met with President Obama in the West Wing, according to a review of visitor logs.

    MIT professor Jonathan Gruber held a series of high-level meetings with administration officials beginning in 2009 and extending through June of this year.

    1. John   10 years ago

      Hey, he wasn't on the staff. He was just there for the Easter Egg hunt like the IRS guy was.

    2. Tonio   10 years ago

      Simply having a wonderful xmas time...

    3. The_Millenial   10 years ago

      He also consulted with all three of the Democratic frontrunners during the 2008 primary season and was aligned with the Clinton campaign. The Democrats have been working with him or known of him for at least the better part of a decade.

      1. John   10 years ago

        I don't think the media is going to be able to cover this thing up. I think this is going to go on and on.

      2. paranoid android   10 years ago

        If they had just said from the outset something along the lines of "Gruber was good with numbers and did a lot of quantitative work getting the bill ready but his personal opinions don't mean jack and don't represent those of anyone in the administration or Congress" the whole thing probably would have just blown over.

        The over-the-top attempts to deny that anyone ever knew the guy when they had to know this information was out there is utterly mystifying.

    4. The Last American Hero   10 years ago

      Maybe the IRS should investigate whether Obama violated the contractor vs. employee rules when dealing with Gruber.

  30. kayledysonmul   10 years ago

    my roomate's mother-in-law makes $66 /hr on the computer . She has been without work for 8 months but last month her paycheck was $21762 just working on the computer for a few hours. take a look at the site here....

    ?????? http://www.payinsider.com

    1. Andrew S.   10 years ago

      Daily check: It's getting worse. Just under 330 hours, or about 10 and a half hours a day over a 31-day month, assuming no days off. These work-at-home scammers are such slavedrivers.

  31. Slammer   10 years ago

    British Police Call On Nation To 'Save a Life, Surrender Your Knife' As 'Knife Violence' Continues

    1. John   10 years ago

      Yeah because the kind of person who plans to use a knife to rob someone is going to follow those instructions and give up their knives.

      These people really are retarded

      1. Trouser-Pod   10 years ago

        C'mon, John. They need to keep banning things. Sooner or later, they'll get around to banning something that removes peoples' desire to want to hurt others.

        I mean, it's almost as if you think they just like having control over their communities!

    2. Anonymous Coward   10 years ago

      Remember when "Knife Control" was just satire?

      It's getting hard to make fun of statists without them taking it as advice on how to do statism better.

    3. Zeb   10 years ago

      Good god. There have been noises about this for a long time, but for a while it was pretty fringe. What's next, a campaign to rid Britain of boards with nails in them?

      I have a couple of ceramic kitchen knives without pointy tips, and it is pretty inconvenient for a lot of things. But they are super sharp and don't dull easily, so they have their place, and I could still murder someone with one in a pinch. So I suppose the next step in the UK will be to ban cooking by anyone who is not a licensed professional.

      1. Riven   10 years ago

        Nobody needs more than one knife...

        1. Zeb   10 years ago

          I do.

          I also need at least 10 guns. And two chainsaws.

          1. The_Millenial   10 years ago

            Are you a horror movie villain?

            1. Zeb   10 years ago

              No, just need the right tool for the job to be available when I need it.

              1. The_Millenial   10 years ago

                I don't believe you

              2. Faceless Commenter   10 years ago

                Describes to a tee a horror movie villain.

      2. OneOut   10 years ago

        And they probably would pass through a medal detector.

        1. BuSab Agent   10 years ago

          So only decorated veterans need worry?

    4. PapayaSF   10 years ago

      In 2005 there was a serious proposal in the UK to ban long pointy kitchen knives.

  32. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

    Woman detained for cutting off 3-year-old's penis

    According to the boy, he irritated his uncle's girlfriend by trying to use her cell phone to play music when she was in the bathroom. The boy's mother was helping a relative harvest corn when the tragedy happened.

    1. Slammer   10 years ago

      I hate the way they use the word 'tragedy' instead of 'vicious attack' or something. It cheapens the awfulness of human behavior.

      1. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

        Same here. Always drives me crazy in the wake of mass shootings.

        1. Zeb   10 years ago

          Everything is society's fault.

  33. The Immaculate Trouser   10 years ago

    Shit 140+ IQ atheists say:

    Things I didn't know: along with their infamous attempts to cast doubt on climate change, the Koch brothers also support gay marriage, cuts to the military, and the American Civil Liberties Union. It is nice that they are working to build a better society, but it would be even nicer if we could be sure we'd still have a planet to put it on.

    They're "rationalists". I try to remember that when I hear them say ludicrous apocalyptic nonsense about cataclysmic destruction of the planet -- nonsense unsupported by climate scientists who believe AGW is happening, btw.

    1. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

      That guy actually writes a lot of pretty interesting stuff.

      1. The Immaculate Trouser   10 years ago

        Agreed, but he also writes some fairly stupid stuff every once in a while -- and this was such an egregious example of Royal Smart Person Right-Thinking that I had to quote it for effect.

    2. John   10 years ago

      So global warming is going to cause the earth to explode or disappear?

      1. Bobarian (Mr. Xtreme)   10 years ago

        Evaporate.

    3. Carl ?s the level   10 years ago

      Oh, and FWIW, the story about the donation to the ACLU may be apocryphal.

      1. Zeb   10 years ago

        But it is well known that they do support many things that leftist intellectuals tend to approve of.

    4. trshmnster the terrible   10 years ago

      With this I am reminded that IQ =/= critical thinking ability.

      1. Every Cop is a Criminal   10 years ago

        "I'm an excellent driver."

    5. OldMexican   10 years ago

      Re: The Immaculate Trouser,

      They're "rationalists"

      No, they're not. They're just as susceptible of making unsubstantiated or bombastic assertions as the worst Creationist, except the woolly thoughts these atheists hold center around economics and ethics. That's the reason why I, along with Hans Hermann Hoppe, left the Skeptical movement a long time ago.

  34. John   10 years ago

    Muslim groups have stepped up efforts to co-opt protests over the fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., with a drive to equate the teen's death to the death of a radical Islamist shot during an FBI raid in 2009, a Washington-based security watchdog group is warning.

    Using social media, conference calling and traditional outreach methods, leaders of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) are portraying Brown and Detroit mosque leader Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah as African-American victims of police targeting, according to the Washington-based Center for Security Policy (CSP).

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014.....dog-group/

    I have no idea if this is true. Fox will print anything that is salacious and bring in ratings. If it is true, have these people lost their fucking minds? Yeah, lets create a protest movement of black nationalists and Muslims. That get the country behind us.

    1. PapayaSF   10 years ago

      There is a "Muslims for Ferguson" Facebook page with 1905 likes.

      1. ProLifeLibertarian   10 years ago

        As a Muslim, I find that annoying. So much hysteria surrounding this case.

    2. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      I hope it isn't true because we keep hearing that CAIR is one of the "moderate" groups - not that I buy that, but if they're stirring the shit in Ferguson, farewell any moderate reputation they have left!

      1. Faceless Commenter   10 years ago

        You do realize that Saudi Arabia and the UAE have declared CAIR a terrorist organization?

        1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

          I don't know nothin' about nothin'!

  35. Sevo   10 years ago

    "who denies any knowledge of the troublesome Affordable Care Act architect."

    "I don't give a shit what happens. I want you all to stonewall it, let them plead the Fifth Amendment, cover up or anything else, if it'll save it, save this plan. That's the whole point...."

  36. Slammer   10 years ago

    Woman performs 'Boob Twerk". Gets upset when people just check out her boobs and don't donate money to charity

    When the video went viral, Mills then attempted to turn the piece into a charity drive for breast cancer after the fact. Apparently most of the viewers were too distracted by her original performance to donate and Mills complained that only $2,000 was raised for charity. "I have a lot of people who are taking my videos and trying to use them for profit, and taking out the original message, which was, 'Please donate'," she said.

    I had no control of this getting as big as it did," she said. "It probably should have been someone who practiced violin. A lot of those people have sent me messages saying it isn't fair and I completely agree with them. But people like boobs."

    1. Slammer   10 years ago

      NOBODY watched those tits? I'm fucking disappointed in y'all

    2. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

      Would

  37. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    I looked at the AM Links. Very interesting that an FCC member would call Net Neutrality a backdoor to an internet tax. They MUST know that is political poison. I don't think the FCC wants Net Neutrality or a chunk of it doesn't. I don't think Title II is happening anytime soon.

    1. The_Millenial   10 years ago

      Hello, my friend

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Reason editors please ban this troll I am pretty sure he's Mary Stack. He is developing an obsession with me much as Mary Stack obsessed over certain posters.

        1. The_Millenial   10 years ago

          Lighten up

          1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

            Stop being a retard. Are you trying to make my age cohort even more embarrassing?

            1. The_Millenial   10 years ago

              Who defines people by their age cohort? You also do a great job of this yourself.

              You actually believe it is okay to bomb millions of people because of the possibility of a terrorist attack. I'm (mostly) joking with these vids, but you're serious. That's the scary thing.

              1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                Who defines people by their age cohort?

                Not me because that's not what I'm doing.

                Holy shit get a shrink and get a hobby aside from stalking me and getting your ass kicked in online debate.

                1. The_Millenial   10 years ago

                  I don't recall you ever "kicking my ass" in a debate since you struggle to defend your positions in a rational manner. For instance, what article of the Constitution do the Geneva Conventions violate?

                  You also revealed your ignorance when you claimed that the Geneva Conventions were ignored during WWII. They hadn't even been drafted into their modern form until 1949. Unsurprisingly, they were written with the events of WWII in mind.

                  1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

                    For instance, what article of the Constitution do the Geneva Conventions violate?

                    Well, violations of the Geneva Conventions are under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court. The arguments outlining the conflict between the US Constitution and the ICC can be found here.

                    The More You Know

                    1. The_Millenial   10 years ago

                      The Supreme Court has also held that violations of the Geneva Conventions are enforceable in federal courts via decisions in cases like like Hamdan v. Rumsfeld.

                      Cytotoxic's argument is that the Geneva Conventions themselves violate the US Constitution.

  38. OldMexican   10 years ago

    The Internal Revenue Service says that Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, who was born in the United States but hasn't lived here since he was five, has to pay American taxes. Johnson, who is considered a possible future British prime minister, says the IRS can get stuffed.

    Are you Grubering me, mate? You can go Gruber yourself!

  39. Anonymous Coward   10 years ago

    Feminists: Talking to women in public is sexist! Not talking to women in public is also sexist!

    DEAR men of Sydney ? nice try, but you don't fool us. While some may have a charitable interpretation of the results of an experiment conducted by The Daily Telegraph that documented the subdued reaction of male onlookers as a beautiful woman walked by, we know what's truly going on.

    You're not really a city of highly evolved, well-mannered gentlemen (well, at least not all of you). You're just spoiled for choice.

    ...

    So, guys, congratulations on keeping the catcalls to a minimum. And rest assured there's nothing sexy about yelling at a stranger to "Show us your mammaries" (or a more graphic variation on the theme).

    But unless you want to lose the ladies of Sydney to your more forthcoming counterparts overseas ? perhaps sparking a woman drought ? it's time to be a little less aloof.

    1. GILMORE   10 years ago

      "" it's time to be a little less aloof.""

      Buy me a drink, bitch.

    2. John   10 years ago

      Fuck off bitch. You don't get to magically have only guys you like approach you. If you want to make hitting on a woman and getting shot down a crime, then live with the consequences of men refusing to hit on women.

      1. trshmnster the terrible   10 years ago

        The best part is that she thinks some prince charming is going to come over from America or Europe or Kiwistan and sweep her off of her feet. As if foreigners have some radically different conception of beauty that somehow encompasses the unapproached women of Sydney.

    3. trshmnster the terrible   10 years ago

      But unless you want to lose the ladies of Sydney to your more forthcoming counterparts overseas

      Ha Aaaaahahahahahahaahhhahahahahhahhah. Hah.

      1. Faceless Commenter   10 years ago

        I haven't read the femirant, but to be fair, I hear the men of Australia are awful.

    4. Horatio   10 years ago

      I've decided the only way to show these radfems how stupid their slutwalks etc are is to walk around with a portion of my dick showing, ala cleavage. Has to follow the same rules as cleavage, eg no pink showing, juuust a little curve etc.

      Then I get to act all offended the nanosecond someone has the temerity to NOTICE me. Like, ugh.

      1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

        DON'T YOU DARE MAKE DICK CLEAVAGE A THING!

      2. BuSab Agent   10 years ago

        I'd like to see some dick cleavage. Hey Jesse, you'd like that too right?

  40. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    You're not really a city of highly evolved, well-mannered gentlemen (well, at least not all of you). You're just spoiled for choice.

    As I recall, there were a lot of extremely attractive women in Australia.

    1. paranoid android   10 years ago

      There's Lucy Lawless, Nicole Kidman...probably some others too.

      1. Kaptious Kristen   10 years ago

        Lucy Lawless ain't no Aussie, mate!

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          New Zealand is like Australia's Canada, which means it's Australia.

      2. Raven Nation   10 years ago

        Here ya go:

        http://thebroadside.com.au/aut.....-anderson/

      3. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

        Yvonne Strahovski

  41. ProLifeLibertarian   10 years ago

    Question: what do libertarians make of the actual case in Ferguson? I get that they're annoyed with police militarization and the violent response toward peaceful protesters, but what do most of you make of the actual case?

    Sure, the police were being incompetent, but the Left's attempts to paint Brown as a peaceful giant seem disingenuous. Still, I want to know what others think.

    1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      The shooting was not clear-cut but I find it difficult to justify in those circumstances. The public was, at the very least, endangered by the hail of bullets. Ferguson PD is corrupt and abusive and needs to be disbanded.

      1. Andrew S.   10 years ago

        This.

        Though my fear is that many people just look at this as "the Ferguson PD is corrupt" and not "most, if not all, police departments are corrupt"

    2. Anonymous Coward   10 years ago

      My interpretation of the case? That this is just another instance of cops being allowed to freak the fuck out, overreact, and rain down bullets when they even get the inkling that their Brave Public Hero lives might be in peril.

      1. Faceless Commenter   10 years ago

        If a guy twice my size started beating me up and I just happened to have a gun on me, I'd be sorely tempted to use it. If the first shot didn't stop him, I'd fire a second.

        1. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

          If the cop initiated the use of force by trying to arrest someone for contempt of cop, do they not bear any responsibility for the subsequent beating?

    3. PapayaSF   10 years ago

      I think anyone who attacks a cop is a candidate for a Darwin Award, and Mike Brown certainly got one.

      1. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

        That's the question then isn't it? Did Mike Brown attack the cop or did the cop attack Mike Brown and Brown resisted?

        1. PapayaSF   10 years ago

          It seems highly unlikely that Wilson, sitting his his car, attacked Brown, standing next to the car. The forensic evidence shows that's when the first two shots were fired, and Brown had a wound on his hand, and some of his blood in the car. It sure looks like Brown reached in and tried to grab Wilson's gun.

    4. Kaptious Kristen   10 years ago

      I don't know too much about teh case. To me, it seems like a thug was shot at a moment when he wasn't actually doing anything thuggish.

      What really irks me - more than irks me - is that this is the one police murder that has been chosen for outrage and media saturation? Really? What about Aiyana Jones? I don't recall that one making the rounds on CNN or NYT.

      1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

        What about Aiyana Jones?

        I know, right?

      2. BuSab Agent   10 years ago

        I wanted to riot about Aiyana Jones, but one person riots are kind of pitiful.

      3. PapayaSF   10 years ago

        To be pedantic, it's only "murder" if it's an unlawful killing. Self-defense and accidents don't count.

        And from the autopsy results and some witness accounts, it looks like Brown was charging Wilson when he died.

  42. B.P.   10 years ago

    "Jonathan Gruber was, back in the day in 2009, the guru on health care,"

    You know whose paternal grandmother's name ended in "gruber"?

  43. Agammamon   10 years ago

    Boris Johnson, the mayor of London. . . has to pay American taxes.

    Johnson's socialist ass should be *happy* to pay those taxes. Taxes are the price we pay for civilization after all.

    1. Free Society   10 years ago

      Why does he hate the poor?

      1. Hyperion   10 years ago

        He doesn't hate the poor, he wants them to pay taxes. Paying taxes is a patriotic duty! He just doesn't want to pay any, duh!

        Kidding aside, fuck the USSA and their insane tax policies.

    2. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

      Isn't BoJo more to the right of UK politics?

      1. Irish   10 years ago

        Isn't BoJo more to the right of UK politics?

        The only difference between the Conservatives and Labour in the UK is that the Conservatives are national socialists and Labour is filled with the traditional kind.

    3. LarryA   10 years ago

      Taxes are the price we pay for civilization after all.

      Unfortunately the people who say this define "civilization" as "bend over and let the government help you."

  44. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

    Brilliant Dartmouth Student Makes Case Against Free Speech.

    Spoiler- it's not convincing. But he's thought about it really hard so don't be mean to him. That'd be hate speech.

    1. paranoid android   10 years ago

      The comments are a joy to read, though.

      "How does America benefit from allowing speech that many other developed and democratic countries have wisely deemed to be against their modern values?"
      By allowing you to publish this nonsense, while allowing me to call it such.

    2. trshmnster the terrible   10 years ago

      In addressing our concerns about the govt going all Orwell:

      At face value, this is a fair question, but given America's deeply-held cultural norms and the power of the Internet and social media, such a scenario is highly unlikely.

      That's great and all, except you forgot one small thing. See, cultural norms, the Internet, and social media all hinge on one thing, unencumbered speech. If you can't talk about your cultural norms, they don't last even a generation. If the Internet and social media are heavily policed, they are worthless for disseminating unpopular thought. Idiots think on a first-order level. Intelligent people are aware of 2nd and higher order consequences to their "ideas."

  45. Hyperion   10 years ago

    The Internal Revenue Service says that Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, who was born in the United States but hasn't lived here since he was five, has to pay American taxes. Johnson, who is considered a possible future British prime minister, says the IRS can get stuffed.

    Now there's all this huff about trying to stop people from getting in. Next it will be all the huff to try to stop people from getting out. The latter however will actually get them to build a big wall.

    1. OneOut   10 years ago

      This. I have repeatedly told my righter friends that a wall works both ways.

      None of them seem to get it.

  46. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    That said, this country has gone too far in allowing people to say whatever they want, and should curtail speech that is obviously harmful to society, such as hate speech.

    Oooh, scary hate speech. Shove it up your ass, moron.

    1. Hyperion   10 years ago

      That said, this country has gone too far in allowing people to say whatever they want, and should curtail speech that is obviously harmful to society, such as hate speech.

      IOW, I want the government to make criminals out of people who say stuff that I don't like, and I'm way to stupid too know that power can be turned against me at any time for whatever I say.

      1. LarryA   10 years ago

        The power you give the government to do unto others will be used to do unto you.

  47. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Holy shit, that Dartmouth kid is a goose-stepping little ignoramus. I had to stop reading. It was making my head hurt.

    1. paranoid android   10 years ago

      I seriously want to know the story of this kid's life, and how he could make it all the way to Dartmouth without his parents or any of the many educators he's probably had over the years pointing out that he's an imbecile with no critical thinking abilities.

      1. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

        That's exactly how he made it to Dartmouth.

    2. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

      What's worse is that hate speech laws I think will be coming to this country within the next 20 years if not sooner.

  48. Free Society   10 years ago

    The Internal Revenue Service says that Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, who was born in the United States but hasn't lived here since he was five, has to pay American taxes. Johnson, who is considered a possible future British prime minister, says the IRS can get stuffed.

    The US federal government is collectively the most violently entitled bunch of pricks on the planet.

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      It's time to defang the beast.

      1. Free Society   10 years ago

        Helping people understand that the state has no legitimacy would be a good starting point.

    2. Hyperion   10 years ago

      They are the worlds largest criminal gang and terrorist organization, that's for sure. I'm not sure anyone even comes close. Kim Jong Un and Putin are fly by night amateurs.

      1. Free Society   10 years ago

        What Kim and Putin lack in subtlety, they make up for in limitations.

  49. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

    Dear Prudence:

    After the economic downturn left my brother and his family destitute, I invited them to stay in my two-bedroom townhouse with me. I gave my brother my older car and I am very proud to say he is close to getting his nursing degree. My problem is my sister-in-law will not stop sighing and whining about having another baby. It is alarming and maddening since the house is already crowded and I am the one picking up the tab for past year. I love my nephews but the thought of a newborn screaming at 3 a.m. makes me grind my teeth. But how can I tell my brother if his wife gets pregnant again, they can move in with our mother in Florida for all I care?

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      Tell him that, as a Democrat, you rely on the government to take care of you in your old age, without any need to rely on able-bodied young workers to support you.

    2. Hyperion   10 years ago

      How can you tell him?

      Like this: Hey, if you want another baby, you have to find your own place now.

      See how easy that is?

    3. All-Seeing Monocle   10 years ago

      Must be pretty fucking hilarious to see all the slate commenters going on about how uncool it is for this woman to be sponging off her hard-working SIL, wanting to pop out babies on her dime.

      A+ level trolling.

  50. Arthur45   10 years ago

    KKK may have something there. Of course the entire Klan consists of about 15 guys, some without sheets. That doesn't stop the braindead media from getting all alarmist about the "danger" they pose.

    1. LarryA   10 years ago

      The Klan has a lot more than 15 members.

      You forgot to count all the undercover alphabet-agency provocateurs.

  51. annadancigerlon   10 years ago

    my roomate's step-mother makes $70 hourly on the internet . She has been out of work for 10 months but last month her pay was $19227 just working on the internet for a few hours. original site.....

    ?????? http://www.payinsider.com

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