Porn Star James Deen Is a Raging Libertarian, Hates Affirmative Consent
On Rand Paul: 'I don't vote for absurd people.'


James Deen is a "raging, hard-core libertarian." That's according to The Daily Beast's Emily Shire, who interviewed the most famous man in the porn industry about his views on policy, Rand Paul, and affirmative consent.
Reason readers already know Deen to be a foe of California's nanny-state condom laws. But it turns out Deen is firmly in the leave-everybody-alone camp on a bunch of issues:
Deen has long been an outspoken activist against condom laws, and like many in the adult-film community, he grounds his rationale in an aggressive interpretation of First Amendment rights. "I believe in freedom of speech," he says, arguing that mandating condoms and mandating testing, as the heterosexual porn industry does, "both moderate what you're doing with your genitals" and, therefore, are "equivalent to violating performers' civil rights."
But Deen doesn't just want the government to stay out of his pants; he wants it to stay out, period. When I mention he's good at texting and holding eye contact, he launches into an unexpected tirade against texting and driving laws.
"We live in a terrorist country. I text and drive looking over my shoulder, not because I think it is morally wrong. It's because I don't want to get in trouble," Deen says.
That doesn't make Deen a fan of Rand Paul, however. When Shire asked whether the libertarian-leaning Republican would get his vote, Deen said no: "I don't vote for absurd people."
Shire, however, called Deen absurd for voicing strong opposition to "Yes Means Yes" affirmative consent laws. Here's what he said:
"That is the dumbest fucking law I've ever heard of. We already have a law against rape. Just don't fucking rape people," he says, in full-on rant mode. "My mom tried to persuade me on it and told me about the coverups on college campuses," he explains. But in typical libertarian fashion, he doesn't think legislation is the answer. "We can't throw a law at it and think it's going to solve it."
I'm with Deen. Mandating what drunk college students should say to each other before they have sex isn't going to make rape any less prevalent. It will, however, produce more lawsuits, as college administrators struggle to navigate the contradictions of federal anti-rape requirements and established due process.
In any case, he seems like a cool live-and-let-live kind of guy. He studiously refused to trash either Lindsay Lohan or Farrah Abraham—even though Lohan was reportedly rude to him on the set of The Canyons and Abraham tried to trick people into thinking they were dating—and declined to name the reporter who allegedly slept with him.
Shire concludes her interview by suggesting that he could run for office. Hey, that's not the worst idea. As long as the American people are going to be fucked over by the government, we might as well elect someone who knows what he's doing.
Reason TV has more on condom laws in the video below.
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Affirmative consent laws are not designed to prevent women from being raped. They are designed to allow men to be raped.
No they aren't. One can certainly argue if they are good or not, but this is certainly not their intent. How does this even work? Even if you mean that men go into jail where they can be victim of sexual assault, the latter is not the goal of those laws.
You can't see intent, nor can you prove it. Citing intent is bullshit, an unfalsifiable claim. The result of the law is what matters.
Is design the same as intent? In this context, I think it is close enough. If so, your objection should be to what Suthenboy said.
Is design the same as intent?
No. A product that will fail as an inevitable consequence of its design can be said to be designed to fail, regardless of whether it was an error or oversight or the intent of the designer. Likewise, if an inevitable consequence of a law, by its very nature, is that men will get raped, literally or figuratively, that law is can be said to be designed to rape men. Again, "good intentions" don't really enter the equation. Much like marijuana laws are designed to throw innocent people in jail.
I don't think I buy that. To say that something was designed is to say that something was designed by someone, which requires some intent. I don't think it is right to say that a poorly designed product that inevitably fails was designed to fail. It's just badly designed.
Now, whether or not we agree on this, I think the question is still open on whether or not this law was designed to fuck over men. I am not convinced of the designers' good intentions.
Yeah, we can agree to disagree on the semantics.
But, I think intentions are inevitably unknowable. So, I think you have to settle on predictable consequences. And the predicable consequences of this law are roughly in line with what Suthenboy said - little or no effect on the incidence of woman getting raped and a lot of guys getting screwed over.
He means "raped" by the legal system, or whatever system is in place to enforce said laws.
The entire massive push right now for affirmative consent bullshit is just another collectivist hatefest, this one perpetrated by people who collectively hate men. They're just as disgusting as misogynists. Yet somehow they're acceptable, when both should be condemned.
?'ve gotten some great results from referring to radfems as Rule 63 MRAs.
What would be the male version of misogynist?
misandrist
Misandrist
too slow...
Misogynist.
Misandrist is the female version.
Epi's Mom is also an acceptable choice.
That's because of the "women can't be sexist because they aren't privileged" bullshit that passes for a college education.
God I thought you just shitted up the Gamergate threads with your inane bullshit.
The people pushing affirmative consent have been crystal clear that they view the law a way to remove presumption of innocence from criminal proceedings dealing with sexual assault. So even the intent is nefarious.
Their intent is to make it so that any woman can claim at pretty much any time that she was raped by pretty much any man that she has ever had any form of sexual contact with.
All that she needs to do is allege that her consent was not fully positive at some point in the encounter and bingo it becomes rape even though her partner had no way to determine that he was committing a crime at the time.
He is referring to the men being raped by the judicial and legal system.
Of course I would allege that at least for a certain set of the affirmative consent backers the actual goal is to eliminate heterosexual sex and as much as possible to eliminate men's presence in the public sphere.
I'm sorry, but are you mildly autistic? Go look up "hyperbole", "metonymy", and "meronymy", then try to understand what Suthenboy was trying to say. It makes sense to anybody with a normal understanding of language.
Intent is irrelevant. The inquisitors who tortured heretics into dying recantation did so with the intent of saving their wayward brothers from eternal damnation. The Maoists intended mass starvation to serve the greater good for future generations. The results in both cases were indistinguishable from mass murder. Why should anyone give a damn about how Very Sincere they were?
Deen is one of the few male pr0n performers who doesn't look like an ape. He also has quite a following among young women. I'm not sure how much influence a guy who sticks his dick in things for a living will have, but it's nice to see him calling bullshit on the regulations that are supposedly being imposed for his protection.
Well, male *straight* pr0n performers, gay performers look better. There is a reason why gay porn thrives on tumblr.
That's like your opinion man.
They pick the apey looking ones for a reason: They look like the average male porn consumer. It gives poor schmucks hope.
Dick first, face second- which means there is no hope being created for the average male porn consumer whacking off his normal-sized pecker.
I don't know much about these things, but wouldn't straight men not want to see the dude at all? Like, how do you block it out.
Broseph, you'd be surprised how many 'straight' dudes literally hate whacking off to normal-sized dicks (even though there is micro-dick porn for the oddball niche). These almost-always homophobic, narrow-brained dick-jackers want their dicks massive, greasy, and, sometimes, black. Peens so big they can barely drill little palaces.
Nothing wrong with enjoying big, black poles... just don't bitch about being so goddamn straight and then cry about small dicks in your porn. Yes, I have been in conversations with these very people.
I don't know about not seeing the dude at all. The point is to watch two people fucking. But I am a bit puzzled at the seemingly obligatory cumshot in most straight porn (no idea what the standard in gay porn is, I imagine it is similar). I really don't get much out of watching some dude jerk off on a girl's face.
Amen. The last 20-30 seconds of most scenes is of some guy jerking off. Who wants to see that?
The exit button exists to block anything you wish to avoid.
Watch what gets you off and avoid the rest. Efficient, free market orgasm and you're on your way. It's all controllable.
Like when I wanted to watch the Sopranos without all the sex, violence, and language.
Yeah, of course that's what you do. It's not like I pay for it. Beggars can't be choosers. I was just responding to Rhywun's question.
well... ok then... jack on, bro
A lot of straight guys identify with the performer. As for me, I watch girl-on-girl, with women who look nothing like most actual lesbians.
Baked, it just so happens that you're following Dave's Rule.
Carry on.
You're supposed to identify with the male performer (or the female one, depending on which way you swing). Empathy or something, you know.
There are two main abilities needed for male porn performers: keeping it up while surrounded by people and equipment and keeping it under control for 30-40 min of stimulation. If you're unattractive they just stick you with the lower-tier female performers. Of course that's assuming you don't have a small dick.
In today's episode of "We See What You Did There!": James Deen is a "hard-core" libertarian.
Why, you could say that Deen has a hard-on for Liberty.
I don't watch porn but I am guessing there is a porn actress named Liberty. There has to be...googling.
Don't see one, but this headline was in the first hit:
"Screwed: Porn Actress Blows Hard Earned Money on College Tuition ... "
*Raging* hard.
As long as the American people are going to be fucked over by the government, we might as well elect someone who knows what he's doing.
Nailed the landing.
Also is that a Hawkguy teeshirt he's wearing?
Ooh...
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Good news! The injunction hearing will be presided over by Judge Zorak. He loves us.
When Shire asked whether the libertarian-leaning Republican would get his vote, Deen said no: "I don't vote for absurd people."
Needs to read up a bit more on the only politician likely to share a majority of his views.
Yeah, he sounds a bit more libertine than libertarian. At least without knowing his views on taxes, spending, gun rights etc.
On another note: a society managed by the hated libertine would, in fact, likely resemble the society managed by the Libertarian. I hate the word 'managed' but it beats 'governed'.
"absurd people"
Black, meet Kettle?
Sorry, but the headline is wrong:
"Reason headline: Porn Star James Deen Is a Raging Libertarian,"
Then from the article:
"Deen is unwilling to embrace the label of libertarian..."
"I won't vote for [Rand Paul] because I don't vote for absurd people,"
The guy is not a "raging libertarian". Come on Reason, this article is at the level of Salon wishful thinking.
Please, of please, James Deen, like what I like so I'll be a cool kid!
Obviously this is a strategy to make women think that libertarians just might have big dicks. Don't "blow" it for us man.
Damn, my bad.
Mmm, that's not quite accurate by a long shot.
Justin Amash shares those views as well. Gary Johnson too. You can write in Ron Paul if you want. Choices are not restricted to whomever the mainstream media points to as being a popular potential frontrunner (and luckily, that is truer now than ever before).
Rand is also a bit of a LINO compared to, say, Ron. It seems clear the former is willing to make some sacrifices of integrity for political success. You could argue every politician does this (or has to do it), but where does it end? At some point you might as well vote for the mainstream Republican because he has a better shot. After all, if you're going to compromise to support Rand, why not compromise a bit more to support a likelier winner?
Don't misunderstand me: I would prefer Rand Paul over Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush. But you can't fault this Deen fellow for not liking a politician, no matter whom. He's got his reasons for his position, just as you have yours.
He and Belle Knox are the obvious top choices for my Objectivist porn flicks.
Atlas C... you know where I'm going with this.
It's Atlas Shagged.
+1
I like yours better
If you're into orgasm denial via 2 hour philosophy speeches, I have just the thing for you.
The Fountainshot
Instead of fifty script page speeches, it has fifty script page orgasms.
Head the Giving
So. I hate this infantile bullshit of caring what celebrities think. Even if I did this is a pretty laughable standard bearer.
James Deen: *bares "standard" for all to see....*
Does he run his ideas up the flagpole to see what people think?
He has his finger on the puss of the female voter.
Maybe that will help with the skewed demographics of the Libertarian party?
If he ever did run for an office, it would be the only time that a "back door deal" would be recorded, sold, and distributed.
Most people who get me off tend to be Libertarian, oddly.
*knock on door at Libertartian Party function conference room - girl opens it*
James Deen: I'm here to see about the internet connection?
Girl: *eyes Deen up and down* Wellll....OK. Come on in....they didn't tell me you were....coming.
James Deen: I just need a place to put my tool...my, my tools....
Girl: See anything that looks like a good place to put it...them, I mean?
James Deen: Umm, er....
Girl: *grabs James Deen and kisses him* Oh, please! I need some raging libertarianism RIGHT NOW!
etc.etc.
Yeah, I suck compared to SugarFree...
Don't be facetious, Almanian.
There is no "Umm, er..." with Deen's peen.
Deen would grab the girl's hair and slap her lightly about the chin and cheek whilst ripping her clothes off. He would then proceed to spit upon, strangle, and sensuously-abuse said willing and consenting bad-ass tart into the *orgasmicly violent dimension hated so feverishly by the disease called feminism.
*Faux word alert
Go on....
Don't be facetious fellatious , Almanian.
I blew it, didn't I?
You'll just have to swallow your shame.
I HAVE MY LIMITS, SIR!
Don't sell yourself short, Almanian. You suck just as much as SugarFree.
Oh please I need to feel the invisible hand of the market now
How many porn "stars" are raging leftwing, Marxist, communists?
It would seem some porn "star" being declared a libertarian is a real snoozer.
You'd be surprised how many are either incredibly confused politically or are NOT raging communists. Reason? Communism is just as strict on abhorring porn (much less its actors/actresses as any of your run-of-the-mill religions.
Barney Rosset, who was the genius behind the old Grove Press and the original publisher of Naked Lunch was originally a communist but renounced his communism when he found out the Marxism hates free market adult sexuality.
There are no highly-sexual communists.
Sex is too un-controlled... Joe Stalin lusted after the day that he could affirm or deny permission for each and every pelvic thrust that was performed in the Soviet Galactic Cluster... As does also, Intergalactic Emperor Obozo! But almost no one pays heed when He fucks the taxpayers...
"Fuckers of the world, unite!"
Given what they do for money I think communists would be pretty damn rare and vaguely or even overtly libertarian beliefs would be REALLY common.
In essence each of them is a small business owner that is constantly getting squeezed by the government at one level or another.
That is kinda gonna breed libertarians sentiments.
Pornstars are all homosexuals or at least bi-sexual.
Never knew he was a libertarian...
Never knew he was a libertarian...
I can say one thing for sure after reading this article and others: James Deen has a really good publicist. The amount of non-porn publicity he gets is unusual and doesn't happen in a vacuum.
*Jimmy Deen* would have been a better porn name.
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Do other libertarians believe that bans on texting while driving are an assault on liberty? It is 600% more likely to cause an accident than alcohol. And there are other people on the road.
No victim, no crime. Going after people for texting while driving is basically an attempt at Minority Report style pre-crime law enforcement.
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