A.M. Links: Additional Ebola Screenings for Flights From West Africa, NATO Has ISIS Plan, Mexican Army Takes Over Town After Mass Grave Found

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  The U.S. is not prepared to ban flights from West Africa over Ebola but will institute additional passenger screening in the U.S. and West Africa.

• Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.) is the latest senator calling for a debate and a vote on authorizing the use of military force against ISIS, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. As ISIS tries to seize a Syrian town near the Turkish border, Turkey's foreign minister says NATO has a plan should ISIS attack the country.
• Democrats in the House of Representatives say they've been abandoned by labor and environmental groups ahead of the midterm elections.
• The Republican governor of Pennsylvania, Tom Corbett, who looks headed for defeat in November, wants a bill passed that would criminalize behavior by convicts found to cause their victims continued "mental anguish." The bill was introduced after Mumia Abu Jamal, convicted of killing a Philadelphia cop in 1981, gave a commencement address at a college in Vermont.
• The State Department says it's concerned by border skirmishes between Pakistan and India.
• The Mexican army has taken over security in Iguala after 43 students disappeared and a mass grave was found.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Democrats in the House of Representatives say they've been abandoned by labor and environmental groups ahead of the midterm elections.

Probably because Pelosi all but assured everyone the Dems will get the House back this year.

[Doctor Whom]

Shalom aleichem.

We own your support! It's ours!

[Tonio]

"I'm sorry guys, but this is a really tough, close election and we have to move away from certain positions in order to win. Imagine how much worse it would be if the other guys were in charge."

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[prolefeed]

Democrats in the House of Representatives say they've been abandoned by labor and environmental groups ahead of the midterm elections.

Probably because Pelosi all but assured everyone the Dems will get the House back this year.

RTFA. It's triage. The Ds won't get the House back this year, and these groups are trying to help the Ds hang onto the Senate.

[Lord Humungus]

USA! USA! USA!

American wins Canadian poutine-eating championship

[Dweebston]

I get the gravy and fries bit, but what is up with the cheese curds?

[UnCivilServant]

It was initially made from "What's in the cubboard" it doesn't have to make sense.

[SugarFree]

It's cheese, you fool!

[Rich]

No whey!

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

YOU QUESTION THE PRESENCE OF CHEESE?!?!?!

[Elspeth Flashman]

Perhaps it's because it's squeaky & cleans your teeth a bit after the clinging sauciness of the gravy?

[trshmnster the terrible]

Mmmmmm, squeaky cheese.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.) is the latest senator calling for a debate and a vote on authorizing the use of military force against ISIS...

Holy shite, my senator crawled out from under a rock long enough to make a stance on something? He's not even up this year.

[Bee Tagger]

That rock was at risk of being fracked so he had to go somewhere.

[Ted S.]

My senator spends too much time in front of TV cameras to be under a rock. 🙁

[Rhywun]

Is it Moobs?

[KDN]

One of mine splits his time between teenage prostitutes and fixing elections, only showing up in public to vote the Democratic party line on the issue of the day. The other is utterly worthless, but is well-spoken and looks good in a suit. I'm not sure which is worse.

[gaijin]

I wonder if the call for a vote isn't a cynical political ploy to get dems cover for what they are doing. Pols read the polls and see support for bombing, so they jump on the bandwagon of 'Merika fer the win! They can then say later that they were against the bombing before they were for it.

[PBR Streetgang]

Apparently Casey is my Senator too. He's been MIA so long I'd forgotten.

[Spoonman.]

He's even doing something I agree with. That's a surprise.

My representative will never crawl out from under his rock though. Charlie Dent, R-PA, the Least Remarkable Congressman.

[Dweebston]

Democrats in the House of Representatives say they've been abandoned by labor and environmental groups ahead of the midterm elections.

Abandoned, or merely shifting focus to winnable senate fights?

[Fist of Etiquette]

...wants a bill passed that would criminalize behavior by convicts found to cause their victims continued "mental anguish."

I'm sure he wonders why he's headed for defeat, too.

[Ted S.]

Why is Mumia Abu Jamal lionized, but nobody would ever think to have given honorary degrees to a government agent killer like Timothy McVeigh?

[Zeb]

I think it is so that college students can form more pointless activism committees.

[Brian D]

How much mental anguish can a dead guy suffer?

[Aloysious]

Democrats in the House of Representatives say they've been abandoned by labor and environmental groups ahead of the midterm elections.

That's too bad.

[Rich]

criminalize behavior by convicts found to cause their victims continued "mental anguish."

Behavior like, say, *continuing to exist*?

[gaijin]

It's like serving your sentence is only Part 1 of the justice system.

[KPres]

Mental anguish: It's all in your head.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Mexican army has taken over security in Iguala after 43 students disappeared and a mass grave was found.

Every war, even one on drug users, is going to have some collateral damage. DEAL WITH IT, AMIGO.

[Dweebston]

Especially drugs, but especially poverty.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

Best guest voices in Simpsons history: (1) Phil Hartman; (2) Kelsey Grammar.

[Lord Humungus]

Let's cast our gaze back to the year 2001:

Stormy weather

While doing research 12 or 13 years ago, I met Jim Hansen, the scientist who in 1988 predicted the greenhouse effect before Congress. I went over to the window with him and looked out on Broadway in New York City and said, "If what you're saying about the greenhouse effect is true, is anything going to look different down there in 20 years?" He looked for a while and was quiet and didn't say anything for a couple seconds. Then he said, "Well, there will be more traffic." I, of course, didn't think he heard the question right. Then he explained, "The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won't be there. The trees in the median strip will change." Then he said, "There will be more police cars." Why? "Well, you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up."

And so far, over the last 10 years, we've had 10 of the hottest years on record.

...snip...

When did he say this will happen?

Within 20 or 30 years. And remember we had this conversation in 1988 or 1989.

[Bee Tagger]

We'll be lucky if we make it 4 more years. I saw on Drudge that Michael Savage says America, as we know it, has 1 month left.

[tarran]

Remember, Hansen was regularly promoted within the U.S. government despite being a nutjob. His claims about the Earth's climate are about as accurate as that candidate who claimed rape couldn't lead to contraception because the beody has ways of shutting it down.

And this drooling simpleton was embraced , feted and promoted by people who fancy themselves as being "pro science", who have no clue as to what the scientific method is, and whose entire motivation is a desperate need to feel superior to the people who don't think like they do.

[gaijin]

So, another Paul Ehrlich?

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

The "Paul Ehrlich of Weather Climate"

[gaijin]

+1 temperature bomb

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

OK, that made me laugh.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

And NASA is firmly in the clutches of the enviros at this point. I attended the NASA TED talks a couple of years ago. More than half of the presentations were on global warming and most of it was non-scientific in any sense. It was a glorified slideshow of my trip to the Arctic.

[Brett L]

Definitely in NO WAY does this call into question GISS corrected data sets. Nope. Just because they've only trended one way (the corrections not the raw data), that means nothing.

IMPORTANT CAVEAT: There are lots of good reasons for correcting long-term data occasionally. As sensors change location and/or are replaced with different sensors corrections probably can be safely added for statistical smoothness so that you don't have huge disjoined data that affect local averages.

[WTF]

Down the Memory Hole! Nothing ever counts against AGW because it is a religion.

[SugarFree]

How dare you make fun of religion! At least Hansen isn't some filthy, smug atheist trying to have mouth sex with the baby Jesus doll in a public courthouse Nativity scene!

[WTF]

I must be a bad person because that visual really made me laugh.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

Wasn't that supposed to be "posing as to receive fellatio with a Jesus statue and taking a selfie of it"?

[SugarFree]

I have to speak my truth.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

MY TRVTH

by SugarFree

Available where fine books are sold, or the e-book at Amazon.com?

[SugarFree]

The paper edition is scratch-n-sniff.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

And a pop-up format?

[Steve G]

Chose your own adventure..

[SugarFree]

Turn to Page 43 to summon Warty Hugeman from his watery crypt

[Slammer]

Only available at the seedy porn shop .

[Slammer]

The U.S. is not prepared to ban flights from West Africa over Ebola but will institute additional passenger screening in the U.S. and West Africa.

Think the TSA union will be happy about this?

[Rich]

"Sir, I'm not going to have to check your asshole."

[UnCivilServant]

Well, it increases their exposure to Ebola, so maybe not.

[gaijin]

how many actual flights from west africa come direct to the US anyway? Seems like Europe would have to be on board with any flight ban

[DEG]

Not too many. Delta and United fly direct to Nigeria. Delta used to fly direct to Liberia.

[Tonio]

Even though it really, really rankles me to see that agency given any more authority I hope they are all shitting their pants in fear.

[Raven Nation]

Do what Australia has been doing:

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/story?id=118829

[DEG]

I think this article is a bit dated. I've been to Australia twice with the last two years, and neither time did the Quarantine Service spray the passenger cabin before anyone left. They might have sprayed after folks left.

Judging by what I saw as I went through Immigration/Customs/Quarantine (all in the same hall in Sydney), I think you could get stuff past them. They don't always bring the dogs out.

[Isaac Bartram]

According to the linked article

[Carson] Creagh [spokesman for the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service] said regular flights from Europe and North America are sprayed before passengers board, the better to avoid complaints from indignant passengers who object to flight attendants or quarantine officers spraying them on arrival.

...

But planes from Hawaii, southeast Asia, tropical South and Central America or tropical Africa are considered high-risk for carrying exotic pests, so the plane is boarded and the cabin sprayed before anyone is allowed out.

So unless you arrived on a flight from Hawaii, southeast Asia, tropical South and Central America or tropical Africa, it is not likely you would have been aware of it.

That said, I doubt that there is any kind of spray that would effectively protect against communicable diseases.

[DEG]

regular flights from Europe and North America are sprayed before passengers board, the better to avoid complaints from indignant passengers who object to flight attendants or quarantine officers spraying them on arrival.

Ahh, I missed that line. I flew in from LAX.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The U.S. is not prepared to ban flights from West Africa over Ebola but will institute additional passenger screening in the U.S. and West Africa.

JUST BUILD THE DAMN EBOLA WALL.

[WTF]

As long as we make sure people from West Africa remove their shoes before boarding, we will all be safe.

[thom]

If we assume that the actual terrorist organizations are always one step ahead, shouldn't we assume that instead of building shoe bombs they're intentionally infecting suicide "bombers" with diseases such as Ebola which display no symptoms for several days?

[Bee Tagger]

The State Department says it's concerned by border skirmishes between Pakistan and India.

Obama is not going to like reading about this in a few weeks.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

*Pak guerillas and Indian Army soldiers read of US DoS 'concern'... "Stack arms and go home, everyone! JOHN KERRY IS CONCERNED!!!!"*

[Lord Humungus]

Radioactivity in Norway's reindeers hits high

Almost 30 years after the nuclear plant explosion in Chernobyl, this autumn, more radioactivity has been measured in Norwegian grazing animals than has been noted in many years.
Lavrans Skuterud, a scientist at the Norwegian Radiation Protection Authority (Statens str?levern), said: "This year is extreme."

In September, 8200 becquerel per kilo of the radioactive substance Caesium-137 was measured in reindeer from V?ga reinlag AS, in Jotunheimen, central Norway. In comparison, the highest amount at the same place was 1500 becquerel among the reindeer in September 2012.

[Bam!]

So that's why Rudolph's nose shined so bright.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

*strongly narrows gaze*

[Ted S.]

Rudolph's red nose is not alcohol-related.

[Ted S.]

I blame climate change. Or, barring that, I blame BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!111!!!

[WTF]

Why not both? Because BOOSH is of course responsible for global warming CLIMATE CHANGE!!!

[Kaptious Kristen]

I blame the Hot Tub Time Machine.

[Steve G]

Mmmmm, self-cooking venison..

[Slammer]

Chef kills and cooks transsexual wife

Spicy!

Warning: autoplay and maybe NSFW

[Bam!]

Did it taste fruity or was it nutty?

[The DerpRider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz3P0zDh6wc

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

A ladyboy I see.

[Idle Hands]

Marcus Volke was outspoken about violence against women. He was also passionate about animal cruelty and fascinated by diet information.

also this

Another advertisement posted by the transsexual while she was in London last year described her as 'busty' and 'extra hot in bed' with a 'big banana', the Daily Mail reports.

[Steve G]

fascinated by diet information

Paleo!

[Rich]

"If you observe [a high fever, severe headache, nausea and/or abdominal pain], report any concerns of a potentially infectious passenger to the captain and follow the reporting procedures as outlined by your airline. Additionally, all bodily fluids should be treated as if they are known to be contagious."

What could possibly go wrong?

[gaijin]

Just in time for flu season!

[Don Mynack]

Also, sucks for you if you are sitting met to this guy. Please return to your seat.

[The DerpRider]

Adrian Peterson's woes continue. I don't know if orgy is the word I'd use...

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

A "Warty"?

[The DerpRider]

Six kids with six different moms. That sounds like a Warty.

[Ted S.]

A woman in every port....

[WTF]

A port in every...

[Rhywun]

Next time on Maury...

[FUQ]

I lived in Norman ok when Peterson went there. It was admitted by those that weren't complete homers that he was lucky to have left early for the draft. He had some questionably activities he needed to get away from.

[Matrix]

I was going to school at OU when he was there, but I did not stay in on all the juicy gossip. I was a commuter and left as soon as I could every day. I also hate the Sooners, so there's that.

[PBR Streetgang]

That is truly shocking and unbelievable.
Who knew AOL still existed?

[Paul.]

Thread winner.

[KPres]

One of the women, upset after seeing the two-time MVP having sex with another female, argued with him for about an hour, according to the Star-Tribune, which cited the police report.

She reportedly said she had an emotional attachment to Peterson. He replied that he was engaged to another woman who was pregnant with his child.

Peterson has fathered six children with six different women.

Alpha.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The State Department says it's concerned by border skirmishes between Pakistan and India.

Because it can't write checks big enough to stop two nuclear powers from going at it?

[Lord Humungus]

Report: Teacher has wife phone in bomb threat to get him out of staff meeting

The employee at Renaissance Charter High School for Innovation in East Harlem, identified only as Eric, reportedly texted his wife to "call in a bomb threat during" the school's dull morning staff meeting last week, and followed up with a test "haha," but his wife didn't see the second message until after she called police, the New York Post reports.

"She called the cops, reporting a bomb threat at the school, which shares a building with three other charter schools at 410 E. 100th St., police sources said," according to the news site.

The woman immediately called back when she realized the mix-up, but eight uniformed officers went to check out the report, anyway.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I don't think the commenters on that article understood. The wife apparently thought the bomb threat was real.

[Brett L]

"Bitch set me up"

[trshmnster the terrible]

Now there's a woman for ya! You say jump, she asks how high. You say call in a bomb threat, she says it's already done.

[Ted S.]

Who doesn't want to get out of staff meetings?

[Paul.]

Word. I think he did everyone a favor.

[Paul.]

See? Fucking charter schools.

[Doctor Whom]

"Nobody has the right to continually taunt the victims of their violent crimes in the public square," Corbett said.

Fucking First Amendment, how does it work?

[Slammer]

Politicians/Criminals in the government taunt me with mental anguish every single fucking day.

[Rich]

I'll just leave this here.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

And the Lightworker thought they were enthralled with his oratory...

[Lord Humungus]

One in three jobs will be taken by software or robots by 2025

This cognitive capability in software will extend to other areas, including financial analysis, medical diagnostics and data analytic jobs of all sorts, says Gartner.

"Knowledge work will be automated," said Sondergaard, as will physical jobs with the arrival of smart robots.

"Gartner predicts one in three jobs will be converted to software, robots and smart machines by 2025," said Sondergaard. "New digital businesses require less labor; machines will be make sense of data faster than humans can."

[Doctor Whom]

I remember being told that robots would take over the job for which I was studying within the next few years. That was in 1982.

[Paul.]

They've been talking about software medical diagnosis for 25 years.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

I remember taking an expert systems programming class back in '89.

[Paul.]

Yep. "Expert systems" is what they called them in the late 80s early 90s because they were beginning to abandon the term "artificial intelligence".

It seems to have come back, however. The term AI that is.

[SugarFree]

Let me introduce you to your new least favorite band: tUnE-yArDs

Front by this slice of pure sexy.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Let's take Tom Tom Club and make it suck.

[The DerpRider]

Made it to 46 seconds. I hate you.

[waffles]

Is this for children?

[SugarFree]

Yes, if by children you mean unemployed 30-year-olds in Brooklyn that dress like bartenders in an Old West saloon.

[Apple]

Ah, come on. They have some good songs. You just have to close your eyes and imagine someone not hideous singing. Just picture some hot Caribbean girl who looks like Neneh Cherry singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2uW2PmVSe8

And the sax breakdown at 2:45 is awesome.

[tarran]

She sucks.

If that's an example of her best work, she really, really sucks.

Basically, she's using assonance and a syncopated beat to get her through her songs. It's a musical equivalent of propofol.

[Apple]

assonance and a syncopated beat

You've just described 75% of popular music since the advent of recording.

[tarran]

True, but the popular songs almost always do it a lot better than the tripe she produces.

She sucks. She should go back to being a puppeteer. Or better yet learn a useful trade.

[SugarFree]

I just don't care for it. It sounds like a migraine headache.

[fuck you tulpa]

"Ah, come on. They have some good songs"

Then they should record and release them.

[SugarFree]

🙂

[Rich]

Ebola Rock!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Why must you?

[SugarFree]

No one made you click.

[Fist of Etiquette]

THAT'S NOT A DEFENSE.

[Slammer]

Fuck that bullshit.

[Drake]

She looks like every chick from Maine.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

*sarcasmic weeps*

[SugarFree]

Don't you just want to stroke her mustache? Imagine what the rest of her looks like out of those baggy, shapeless clothes...

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

STOP DOING THAT!!!

[SugarFree]

Mirror, mirror on the wall
Can you see my face at all?
My man likes me from behind
Tell the truth I never mind

TUnE-yArDs - "Powa"

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

*bangs head on desk to concuss memory of this out*

[Rich]

every chick from Maine

Nicer band name than tUnE-yArDs.

[tarran]

Jesus Fucking Christ!

That was so bad it gave me ear cancer!

[Warty]

Why do you do this to us?

[SugarFree]

Am I supposed to just keep it to myself?

[Paul.]

Like Ebola?

[KDN]

Let me introduce you to your new least favorite band

Psh, I have Sirius, and XMU started pushing this crap like a year ago. Which is to say that I hated the Tuneyards BEFORE IT WAS COOL.

[SugarFree]

I right there with you. I'm done with satellite radio. Thousands of hours of music in any given music genre and they play the same damn 50 songs in a two week cycle.

Also, fuck Bastille. Whoever those little shit are, they should be hunted down and drowned.

[KDN]

I'm far too lazy to follow any sort of emerging music on my own time and live in an area with literally no radio stations for my preferred genres (seriously, NYC is a fucking deadzone), so Sirius is still worth the money for me. Their turning into a paid version of ClearChannel is making me rethink that decision once a quarter, though.

And yeah, fuck Bastille. Good and hard.

[Lord Humungus]

They Are Coming for Your Children
Teacup totalitarians target Connecticut home-schoolers

Home-schoolers represent the only authentically radical social movement in the United States (Occupy Wall Street was a fashion statement) and so they must be suppressed, as a malevolent committee of leftist academics and union bosses under the direction of Governor Dannel Malloy is preparing to do in Connecticut, using the Sandy Hook massacre as a pretext. The ghouls invariably rush to the podium after every school massacre, issuing their insipid press releases before the bodies have even cooled, and normally they're after your guns. But the Malloy gang is after your children.

Malloy's committee on the Newtown shootings is recommending that Connecticut require home-schooling families to present their children to the local authorities periodically for inspection, to see to it that their psychological and social growth is proceeding in the desired direction. For anybody even passingly familiar with contemporary government schools, which are themselves a peerless source of social and emotional dysfunction, this development is bitterly ironic.

[UnCivilServant]

The chilluns in the public corrals got shot, so we must make it harder to take them out of the public corrals and hassle those that do!

/Conn

[Bam!]

Being presented to the government for "inspection" is likely to cause psychological damage.

[Certified Public Asskicker]

Professor West of Georgetown is scandalized that parents "have virtually unfettered authority to decide what subjects to teach, what curriculum materials to use," etc., and, naturally, worries that this will result in parents who teach "from nothing but the Bible." (Question: What is the opposite of "unfettered"?)

Bam!

[Certified Public Asskicker]

Uh, that "Bam!" was not in reference to the poster above me.

[trshmnster the terrible]

worries that this will result in parents who teach "from nothing but the Bible.

Not teh Buybuhl! Anything but the Buybuhl! That's like child abuse, making the poor chilluns read the Buybuhl!

[Zeb]

To be fair, teaching from nothing but the Bible would be a pretty weak education, unless your kid wants to become a monk. But out of all the religious home schooling parents, how many are going to do that? Even assuming that a 100% Bible education is terrible, and being completely utilitarian in judgement, any honest person would have to say that forcing everyone to go to a public school is going to do more harm than the tiny proportion of home schoolers who give their kids a lousy education.

[lap83]

I agree with you, and even if some parents teach kids only the Bible, why does it matter? Unless the parents lock them away in a windowless dungeon, the kids will learn other skills just by playing. I know that's how my childhood was and I doubt I'm the only one. I became very good at drawing at a young age, for example, because I'd use my grandpa's reams of carbon paper he had left over from his typewriter repair business to trace over my coloring book pages and make them last longer. Kids aren't robots that need to be programmed. They learn what they want to learn.

[VG Zaytsev]

(Question: What is the opposite of "unfettered"?)

Shackled?

Kids aren't really free unless their in government shackles.

[SugarFree]

Fettered. a chain or manacle used to restrain a prisoner, typically placed around the ankles.

[Tonio]

While he may be right, I can't make it more than a hundred words into a KDW article. It's the sort of screechy martyrdom complex you see so often in socons, but even more hysterically wrought than some of the worst offenders here.

[Rhywun]

You mean, exactly like Warty's quotes below? I agree - that stuff is painful to read through.

[Warty]

Contrary to all of the sanctimony surrounding them, the government schools are in fact the single most destructive institution in American public life

Yup/

[SusanM]

Funny. I'd never believe that a right-winger would echo those dumbshit leftist-wannabes I went to high school with back in he 80's.

[Zeb]

I don't know that I could single out schools like that. It's a rich tapestry of destructive institutions that all have something to do with each other.

[Warty]

We entrust our children to the state for twelve or thirteen years, during which time they are subjected to a daily regimen that is, like the school buildings themselves, more than a little reminiscent of the penitentiary: "bells and cells," as one of my teachers used to call it. They are instructed in obedience and compliance, as though the most important skill in life were the ability to sit quietly and follow instructions; those children who are more energetic than the authorities care for are given psychiatric diagnoses and very often put on psychiatric drugs: Since the 1980s, the rate of antidepressant prescription for children has increased five-fold, while the rate of antipsychotic prescription has increased six-fold. Locking children up for the largest part of the day, in a dreary room with 20 to 30 other children all born within nine or ten months of each other, is a model that make sense ? that is something other than insane ? only if you think of children as batches ? if you believe, as our president and those who share his views believe, that the children are the government schools' product rather than their customers.

YUUUUUUP.

[Zeb]

The points are all valid, but aren't a lot of private schools run in more or less the same way?

[Rhywun]

That's what I can't figure out from all the hyperbole. It sounds like he's rebelling against the whole concept of "school" but why he needs 25 long, overwrought paragraphs to do it is beyond me.

[Mercutio]

"We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control"

[Longtorso, Johnny]

Houston megachurch [2nd Baptist] slapped with sexual abuse lawsuit over youth pastor's behavior asks for prayer
..."By engaging youth met in public schools in church activities, the parents eventually become involved as they shuttle their children to various church activities. These same parents proceed to join Second Baptist, and subsequently help grow the flock financially," the suit reads.

Once Foster won Jane's trust, he began to chat with her on Facebook and Skype. "Using Jane as his muse, Foster would expose himself and engage in acts of self-gratification while he was in his bedroom," the suit reads. "He would ask Jane to take off her clothes, talk dirty to him and help him."

Sometime after January 2011, the suit says Second Baptist "quietly passed Foster off" to another church, Community of Faith. He continued his sexual abuse of Jane, and Community of Faith "simply picked up where Second Baptist left off."...

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Youth pastorships attract pedos. We had one locally that was screwing half of the teens in his group. He's lucky the parents didn't off him before he went to jail.

[SugarFree]

My uncle was molested by one. I didn't find out until I was an adult, but the youth pastor always skeeved me out, even as a little kid.

[BardMetal]

A sexual predator is like any other type of predator, they go where the prey is at.

Youth anything is going to be a magnet for these creeps.

[Lord Humungus]

Why right-wing Christians are actively promoting genocide

Recently, Charisma magazine, a major media outlet for evangelical and Pentecostal Christians, published an open call to genocide. The article in question, titled "Why I Am Absolutely Islamaphobic" [sic] and written by Gary Cass, begins with the premise that "every true follower of Mohammed" wants to "subjugate and murder" non-Muslims, and therefore it's impossible for Christians to live together peacefully with them.

Cass proposes three solutions to this problem. One is for Muslims to undergo mass conversion to Christianity; the other is mass deportation combined with eugenics ? either "force them all to get sterilized" or kick them out of America "like Spain was forced to do when they deported the Muslim Moors." But he says both of these plans are unlikely to work, so "really there's only one" solution, which is:

Violence: The only thing that is biblical and that 1,400 years of history has shown to work is overwhelming Christian just war and overwhelming self defense.

[SugarFree]

At least they aren't dancing around the idea any longer.

[Tonio]

Recently, Charisma magazine, a major media outlet for evangelical and Pentecostal Christians, published an open call to genocide.

That can't be true. I am frequently lectured here, and screechily so, that such views represent only the fringe of the fringe.

[robc]

Ive never heard of the magazine.

The church I attend is evangelical and borderline pentecostal.

[robc]

Speaking of which, my church is hosting a missionary to the middle east next week, talking about how to evangelize to the local moslem population (there are 2 mosques in Bowling Green).

Hmmm...which do you think more represents the mainstream evangelical Christian position?

[SugarFree]

The owner was named by TIME in 2005 as one of the 25 most influential evangelicals in America and as of 2009 Charisma had a circulation of 275,000. It doesn't sound like a small outfit.

You aren't to blame for the assholes calling themselves good Christians.

[robc]

Speaking of BG, mosques, and assholes what was the BBQ place you recommended?

[SugarFree]

The Smokey Pig

It's been a few years, so hopefully the quality hasn't dropped off.

[robc]

Okay, thats the one I thought.

I never get to that side of town. May have to make a special trip.

[Every Cop is a Criminal]

Which Bowling Green do you live in? OH or KY?

[robc]

The real BG, KY.

I wasnt gonna move to Ohio, thats just silly.

[robc]

WKU beat BGSU to start the football season, guaranteeing that KY holds the real BG title, at least until they schedule each other again.

[Rhywun]

how to evangelize to the local moslem population

Pro-tip: wear body armor.

[Paul.]

That can't be true. I am frequently lectured here, and screechily so, that such views represent only the fringe of the fringe.

I dunno... it all sounds pretty fringe.

[Zeb]

"We have to kill all the Muslims or convert them to Christianity because they want to kill all the Christians or convert them to Islam".

Seems like a sound argument.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

The subtitle said the article is "not the outlier we might like to think" and bolstered this with one of the Duck Dynasty guys saying the ISIS people should be converted or killed.

Salon knows a trend when it sees one!

[robc]

I think 1 of the 3 is a good idea, only individually and not in mass.

A mass conversion isnt a conversion.

[Zeb]

After we kick out the Moors, should we then forcefully convert all the Jews, as Spain was "forced" to do?

[Azathoth!!]

After we kick out the Muslim invaders,

FTFY

It's important to remember that Muslims were invading Europe in the 700s--the first Crusade didn't happen until the 1000s.

[Lord Humungus]

VIDEO: Lois Lerner Tries Barging Into Neighbor's Home To Evade Questions

But, similar to her testimony before Congress where she pleaded the fifth, Lerner didn't show any remorse, and, on a more latent level, showed her disregard for people's privacy rights in general. In the video above, you can see Lerner fleeing from Mattera as she rushes through what appears to be a random person's front yard.

"Could you call the police?" Lerner begs an elderly woman, while pounding on her door. "Please let me in. These guys are with the press and they're not leaving me alone." The elderly woman is heard telling Lerner that she just had surgery and was in no position physically to let her in the house.

But that didn't stop Lerner. She implores that same elderly woman to open up her garage instead.

[OldMexican]

She implores that same elderly woman to open up her garage instead.

You know, Louis Lerner is deranged. What compelled her to bother a neighbor with that display of hysteria as if she was being followed by zombies? She was only being followed by reporters.

[Lord Humungus]

College Denies Report It Forced Students to Take Part in Civil Rights March

The march on Friday, Sept. 26, aimed to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Voting Rights Act of 1964, which is the same year the private liberal-arts college enrolled its first black student.

Helena Hammond-DoDoo, a senior at the Frederick, Maryland-based college, told the Frederick News Post that participation by some student groups in the march was mandatory, "whether people were truly interested or not."

"If we have absent-minded people sitting here not really listening, what have we really done?" she had told the newspaper.

But school officials told The College Fix a different story.

[Slammer]

Helena Hammond-DoDoo???

[Rich]

She seems nice enough.

[Slammer]

Nice wig.

[Lord Humungus]

Ms. Scat Play 2014

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

"Now go do that DoDoo that you do so well!"

[Elspeth Flashman]

My thoughts as well.

[Rich]

"It's 'Hammond-Frankensteen'".

[EDG reppin' LBC]

...1964, which is the same year the private liberal-arts college enrolled its first black student.

That was mighty White of the college. How progressive!

[An Innocent Man]

...Tom Corbett, who looks headed for defeat in November, wants a bill passed that would criminalize behavior by convicts found to cause their victims continued "mental anguish."

Looks like I'll be writing my own name in again this time. Tom Corbett is God-awful horrible as governor and deserves to lose. But Wolf strikes me as being a complete sleaze-ball in addition to being God-awful. And I think both are possibly retarded.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Well, it is Pennsylvania, what do you expect?

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

I'd love to throw stones....but I live in Illinois

*breaks down sobbing*

[WTF]

Really? I live in New Jersey.

*BOOM*

[PBR Streetgang]

Virginia to Pa AND I live in Chaka Fattah's district!

[Rhywun]

Oh please. NY - top that.

[PBR Streetgang]

Who's district you in?

[Rhywun]

Michael Grimm

[PBR Streetgang]

Fattah easily trumps Grimm, but I bet your local politicians crush anything in my county. Let's call it a draw?

[Rhywun]

Agreed.

[BBB]

Indeed, Corbett deserves to lose. He has also alienated several core constituencies, teachers and Penn State grads particularly.

Agreed also that Wolf is a sleaze-ball who appeals to party-line Democrats and the "anyone but Corbett" party only.

But overall, PA politics outside of Philadelphia is surprisingly sane. Toomey's a tool, to be sure, but in local terms, I'm generally impressed that even the Democrats haven't lost their minds around here. I'm a transplant from Texas, too.

[Lord Humungus]

VA bonuses may be tied to phony records

KARE 11 News has learned the FBI is now interviewing two former workers at the Minneapolis VA who claim that patient records were falsified to cover up life-threatening delays. This, as KARE 11 uncovers millions of dollars in bonuses paid to top VA workers that may be based on phony records.
Bonuses awarded to top executives at VA

Nearly $23 million in bonuses were awarded in the last seven years to directors and top executives at Veteran's Administration hospitals, according to Department of Veterans Affairs' financial data obtained by KARE 11 News. The bonuses were extra pay given to the highest ranking executives, in part for meeting scheduling standards at VA facilities across the country.

[Aloysious]

...may be tied...

That right there is funny. Like there is any doubt.

[Whahappan?]

Weren't the bonuses the entire reason for the falsified records? Wasn't this known from the very beginning?

[Lord Humungus]

P.K. Subban Admits To Farting In Front Of Net To Distract Goaltenders

It appears the Montreal Canadiens have a new offensive strategy ? offensive to the senses, that is.

Habs defenseman P.K. Subban spoke to NHL.com's Arpon Basu and admitted a rather bizarre strategy on the ice.

P.K. Subban just admitted he intentionally farts in front of the net to annoy the opposition. I'm sure Carey Price must love that.

[gaijin]

So he must eat Poutine as part of his pre-game ritual.

[Ted S.]

It's only controversial if he didn't fart in French.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

le pet!

[EDG reppin' LBC]

Le Petomane!

[SugarFree]

Quelqu'un at-il marcher sur un canard?

[A Frayed Knot]

I don't understand the strategy - how often does he stand in front of the opponent's net? He's a defenseman.

[The Late P Brooks]

Democrats in the House of Representatives say they've been abandoned by labor and environmental groups ahead of the midterm elections.

Oh, bullshit. Who are they going to vote for, Republicans?

Oh, wait; could they be whining about MONEY?

[Certified Public Asskicker]

Apparently, you (and I) do not really like bacon:

The pork industry "subsidized recipe development and market research," which is to say that it straight-up paid restaurant chains to add bacon to their burgers, and consumers, by now conditioned by the comparative blandness of non-bacon-covered burgers to think the words bacon and flavor were synonymous, flocked to the bacon-topped menu offerings. Bacon competition broke out: Burger King stuck bacon on a Whopper; Wendy's fired back with the Baconator; McDonalds will literally wrap your entire head in bacon if you know the secret code word (probably). Foodies picked up the craze, too, distancing themselves slightly by adopting uncured pork belly rather than the cured variety.

And so on. All because some pork industry lobbyists saw an opening created by the very same market force?the craze for lean, flavorless meat?that crashed the value of bacon in the first place. And now it's in everything: Salad dressing, vodka, toothpicks, mouthwash. Goddamn bacon-scented massage oil, presumably to facilitate the fantasy that you are sliding your hands over the hideous furry stomach of a mud-splattered pig rather than over the smooth skin and supple flesh of a boring human being. The Age of Bacon is upon us, because a buncha friggin' lobbyists said so.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Clamato Caesar Bacon Vodka in a can.

Because you shouldn't have to drink a whole case to make yourself vomit.

[Slammer]

The pork industry

It never would have been an "industry" in the first place if people didn't desire it.

[Rich]

Exactly.

/Your congresscreature

[sarcasmic]

Well, yeah! It's those powerful corporations forcing their goods and services on us! They coerce us into buying their products! We have no choice! We have been forcefully manipulated! If only Government would save us from the corporations!

[Slammer]

How dare they give people what they actually want. How DARE they!

[sarcasmic]

No, no, no! They don't give people what they want! They forcefully manipulate people into thinking that they want what the corporation produces! The elites know better! They don't buy that garbage! And they're really smart! So we need to put those elites into positions of government power so they can protect us from ourselves since we're powerless in the face of the the forcefully manipulative corporations! It's the corporations!

[Slammer]

There is no "big lie"

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

because a buncha friggin' lobbyists said so

And the lobbyists said, "Let there be demand for bacon," and there was a salivary response.

[sarcasmic]

That is exactly right! People are powerless against the coercive manipulative power of the corporations! They force us to buy their products!

[Balloon maker]

I've been a lobbyist for the cauliflower industry for years. We could give the shit away and people still don't want it

[Certified Public Asskicker]

It's weird, I remember being a kid and liking bacon, long before I ever saw a Baconator commercial. Dad would usually fry some up every Saturday morning and I looked forward to it.

Now I see, my dad worked for Big Bacon/Pork.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Now I see, my dad worked for Big Bacon/Pork.

*insert joke about your mom here*

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

You taking over for Epi?

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

I could never do that.

Actually, it may be physically impossible to do so. Some mental states require years of conditioning in order to achieve.

[CatoTheElder]

Bacon, mmmm ....

I am old enough that I can say that I liked bacon before my family had a TV set.

Anyone who says that people who like bacon are victims of "The Pork Industry" is an idiot.

Curiously, Big Pork determined to promote the Bacon Burger rather than the Spam Burger. That's because bacon because bacon tastes good, like a pork product should (that paraphrase is a line influenced by TV advertising, though I have never smoked Lucky Strikes.)

[Zeb]

How do lobbyists come into it? Seems like a marketing thing.

[sarcasmic]

Lobbyist is a word that evokes an emotional reaction in most on the left, putting them into a senseless rage, spitting about the evils of the corporations, and the need for more government.

[Sevo]

Except if the lobbyist is Andy Stern, in which case, he's representing 'the common man'. Which 'common man' strangely seems to want to pay more for goods than the market price.

[thom]

Well yeah, because when you have small government, free market capitalism, the lobbyists in Washington who can buy off the politicians end up making all the rules. Everybody knows that's why corporations are evil - because we need big government so that lobbyists will have less power.

[OldMexican]

All because some pork industry lobbyists saw an opening created by the very same market force ? the craze for lean, flavorless meat ? that crashed the value of bacon in the first place.

Methinks the author should stick to talk about food and not economics.

By the way - porkbelies? Yeah, one of the better performing assets. What price crash?

[Doghouse Riley Jr.]

Personally, I find bacon to be way over-rated.

[OldMexican]

You must be a Must-slim!

Ha ha!

[lap83]

I love bacon and I know it's bad for me, which is why I don't eat it that often. So the mind-control rays of the bacon lobbyists must be only partially effective on me.

[Lord Humungus]

Colorado welfare recipients withdraw money in Hawaii, St. Thomas, Vegas

Taxpayers are apparently buying welfare recipients booze and cigarettes for the road ? at times a very exotic road.

A Watchdog.org analysis of a Colorado Department of Human Services welfare ATM withdrawals database shows that $3.8 million was withdrawn by Colorado welfare recipients outside the state in the past two years. There were withdrawals at out-of-state liquor stores and tobacco outlets, as well as vacation destinations like Hawaii, Las Vegas and even the Virgin Islands, data shows.

[TwB]

Good morning all. I'd like to pose a scenario to you good folks here so I can get some unbiased advice. Here's the deal: my wife and I are from Illinois, most of our family and friends are still there, but we live in DC now. My wife just got a great job offer in Chicago, but she can't make up her mind about it. She is very focused on her career (DOD/Gov't), which would probably be better in DC but her current job sucks, so she's already looking elsewhere here. The job in Chicago is not in the gov't but it would allow her to use her degree in a better way than she is currently able to and she could advance in the company. My career is complete shit right now, so I need to push a big reset button and I'd rather be closer to my family/friends at this point in my life. So my fellow reasonoids, what would you do?

[Drake]

DC or Chicago? This is like choosing from different levels of Hell.

[thom]

The people who live in Chicago are millions of times better than the fucking assholes who populate DC. I hate DC with a passion (for personal, not ideological reasons) and would never advise anybody to go there, much less live there, so I may be biased, but outside of the crappy politics there are parts of living in Chicago that seem really appealing.

[sarcasmic]

If she goes into government, she'll have to stay there forever. Her skills and talents will be underused, rendering her unemployable in the private sector.

[TwB]

That was my thought as well. She already says that there are days at work when she works maybe 2 hours. A day. And she thinks that by going to a different gov't job, it's going to improve. I just shake my head.

[Kaptious Kristen]

I must be some kind of aberration - I have learned way more as a govt contractor than I learned in all my years in the private sector combined. My employer and client allow me to learn on the job and of course my company pays for training.

[Kaptious Kristen]

(when I say "learned", I mean, real, actual skills like WordPress development/admin, JS, PHP, etc.)

[Lord Humungus]

I like Chicago - to visit - but I'm not sure I would want to live there - not unless I got a large enough pay increase to buy the sort of privacy I need.

[TwB]

She'd make the same money in Chicago as she does here but the cost of living in Chicago is cheaper. We'd probably live in the North 'burbs anyway, so cheaper still.

[Lord Humungus]

On a side note, my mother is from Park Ridge - went to the same school as Harrison Ford. He was a year behind her. There's a great picture of him from the AV club where the group is standing around a projector.

[Lord Humungus]

http://theswca.com/images-misc.....58-p44.jpg

[TwB]

Nice

[SugarFree]

Strictly on the basis of food, I'd go with Chicago.

[gaijin]

fwiw, Chicago. Live in the burbs (e.g., OakPark) to avoid the most onerous city charges. If you have kids, certainly. If you don't, but might, burbs are best around chicago.

[Elspeth Flashman]

Just for the family/friends connection I'd go with moving. I would have a hard time being far from the family.

[OldMexican]

Re: TwB,

The job in Chicago is not in the gov't but it would allow her to use her degree in a better way than she is currently able to and she could advance in the company.

Better start finding a new job and house in Chicago, bud.

Happy wife, happy life.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

Suggest living in 'burbs and commuting.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

Join us here in Purgatory, er... Illinois.

[lap83]

I can't see any upside to staying in DC. Family/friends + low cost of living is enough of a reason for most people who decide to live in the boring states.

[lap83]

("boring" is tongue-in-cheek, btw, I love living in the midwest)

[Kaptious Kristen]

P.S. I'd leave the DC area in a New York minute if I had an good offer. But not for Chicago. Or New York. Or any city. Or any place that lacks mountains.

[Jerryskids]

Turkey's foreign minister says NATO has a plan should ISIS attack the country.

Has Obama announced plans to charge the guy with violations of the Espionage Act for releasing classified information or, given that the guy is not an American citizen on US soil, will Obama just dronestrike his terrorist-aiding ass?

[Drake]

Has CNN or USA Today let Obama know that Turkey is a NATO member?

[Doghouse Riley Jr.]

Pardoning turkeys is part of being a President, so this guy should be okay.

[userve32]

Well now that makes a lot of sense dude.

http://www.Anon-Planet.tk

[Lord Humungus]

Metaphorically or literally?

[The Late P Brooks]

"What's different here," said Ryan Calo, a professor at the University of Washington School of Law, is that the agent assumed the identity of a real person without her explicit consent. "The technologies we have now are enabling all sorts of new uses," said Neil Richards, a professor at the Washington University School of Law. "There are a whole bunch of new things that are possible, and we don't have rules for them yet."

Identity theft is perfectly legal when the police do it. Like murder.

[The Late P Brooks]

The Age of Bacon is upon us, because a buncha friggin' lobbyists said so.

Right. Advertising is mind control; resistance is futile.

[The Late P Brooks]

The job in Chicago is not in the gov't but it would allow her to use her degree in a better way than she is currently able to and she could advance in the company.

I am reluctant to tell people what to do, but... Does she have some sort of aversion to making an honest living, as opposed to govt work?

[Sevo]

"Democrats in the House of Representatives say they've been abandoned by labor and environmental groups ahead of the midterm elections."

Yeah, the greenies and thugs are all voting R, right?
Sorry, Ds, it's not them.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

If you want to get your derp on, here's your ticket.

The 14 richest Americans received 82 billion.

They did not "make" it.

I know its common usage of that word, but it implies that they earned, deserve, or even created that wealth, which is pretty much impossible. I would bet money that none of them created the devices, drugs, or products/services that brought in the cash, either in a hands on or even in an intellectual property kinda way. They skimmed 82 billion. They took 82 billion. They did not make 82 billion.

[OldMexican]

I would bet money that none of them created the devices, drugs, or products/services that brought in the cash

Little red marxians do what little red marxians always do: rehash the old, tired, debunked (and left for dead) Marxian theory of exploitation. Only one arrow in that quiver.

[Slammer]

And even if they inherited it, which makes those asshole commenters livid, that means someone created that wealth at some point in the past.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Wealth is a zero sum game, didn't you know that?

[thom]

I would bet that the people who created the devices, drugs, products, and services would disagree, and are thankful that they were given access to all that wealth. Interesting how it's never the people who actually use other's capital to produce who bitch about people using other people's capital to be productive. It's always the completely unproductive who complain, who think it's just not fair that those resources are being used to do things like create devices, drugs, products, and services instead of something worthwhile like paying for their Brooklyn apartment or subsidizing their degree in Marxist Theory.

[OldMexican]

Re: thom,

I would bet that the people who created the devices, drugs, products, and services would disagree, and are thankful that they were given access to all that wealth.

No, don't bet on it. If there is one thing that has been institutionalized by Proggies and little red Marxians successfully, is envy.

[Zeb]

I just don't get it. How do these people imagine that factories and new technologies would come into being without capital investment? What is stopping the workers from starting their own company and producing things at a lower cost because no one is "skimming"?

[OldMexican]

The Mexican army has taken over security in Iguala after 43 students disappeared and a mass grave was found.

By the way, Iguala is a city in the state of Guerrero.

That's where Acapulco is.

Faces the Pacific Ocean.

In the South, people!

Oh, open Google maps, for cripes sake! I'm outta here!

[John]

43 students? Holy shit. What earthy reason would even the worst drug gang have for murdering 43 students? That is really terrifying.

[OldMexican]

It's pretty terrifying and disgusting but the worst part is nobody knows why they were taken and killed, if they happen to be the same ones in that mass grave.

[tarran]

What exactly was the 'clash' with the local cops that got these students kidnapped?

[fuck you tulpa]

Um, ok.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

"Say, ever wonder why the Habs order so much sauerkraut before a game?"

/clubhouse attendant

[The DerpRider]

I though he created traffic in front of the net by turtling any time someone looked at him funny.

[tarran]

They really are the worst form of scum aren't they?

Every dollar spent on pursuing contraband is a dollar diverted from catching the people who commit real crimes with actual victims. Every DEA agent is an accessory after the fact to murders, rapes and kidnappings.

Which is why when I rise to power, I will pitilessly send them all finish their worthless lives out in the boats.

[Rich]

"What's different here," said Ryan Calo, a professor at the University of Washington School of Law, is that the agent assumed the identity of a real person without her explicit consent. "The technologies we have now are enabling all sorts of new uses," said Neil Richards, a professor at the Washington University School of Law. "There are a whole bunch of new things that are possible, and we don't have rules for them yet."

W.T.F?

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

It's the New Professionalism

[sarcasmic]

I'm technically private sector, but some committee of government idiots decides what I am allowed to do. As a result I do mostly nothing. By the time I realized my skills were stagnating, it was too late. I'm afraid that I am stuck here for life.

[Swiss Servator, Grundgesetz!]

HA!

[CatoTheElder]

As loathsome as the DEA and its agents are, the boats is a bit too much in the cruel and unusual category for me.

Their multiple conspiracies of kidnapping and murder are somewhat mitigated by their brainwashing. I'd prefer imprisonment and re-education. After sufficient re-education, individual offenderss could demonstrate their contrition by voluntarily accepting a few days in public stocks where their victims could express their disapproval and obtain some closure. The unrepentant, of course, would deserve to have his head on a pike for all to see the just reward for his usurpation of others' liberty.

[Cdr Lytton]

It's like pink eye.