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NY's 9/11 Memorial: When Did Honoring the Dead Become an Occasion for Fleecing the Living?

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"NY's 9/11 Memorial: When Did Honoring the Dead Become an Occasion for Fleecing the Living?" written by Jim Epstein and Nick Gillespie, narrated by Kennedy, and shot and edited by Epstein, with help from Anthony L. Fisher. About 2 minutes.

Original release date was September 10, 2012 and original writeup is below.

More than a decade after the 9/11 attacks, a new World Trade Center is finally rising, along with a memorial, museum, and a transit hub.

When the projects are slated to open they'll supposedly symbolize America's strength, determination, and refusal to cave in. But they really tell a different story about taxpayer rip-offs, public-sector incompetence, and union and corporate greed.

One World Trade Center, formerly known as the Freedom Tower, will be the most expensive office building in American history by a long shot. Cost overruns have driven the price tag to $3.8 billionThe Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the public agency that's running the show, is sticking commuters with part of the tab by hiking tolls across the Hudson River to $12.

The new complex will dump 3-million square feet of office space into a soft rental market meaning Condé Nast, the flush publisher of The New Yorker, Wired, and Vanity Fair, got beau coups subsidies to move in. And who-other-than the federal government signed on to fill up five floors at a cost of $351 million over 20 years?

Even The New York Times' stimulus-pimping columnist Joe Nocera has called World Trade Center rebuilding an "example of just about everything wrong with modern government," asking, "where's the Tea Party when you need them?"

Just down the street from the Trade Center, a federally-financed transit hub is a billion dollars over budget, now coming in around $3.4 billion. Construction costs for the September 11th Memorial and Museum have climbed to $700 million, with taxpayers footing a portion of the bill.

New York's politically connected construction industry has benefited the most from 9/11 largess, but the city's real estate and banking cartels have gone whole hog at the taxpayer-funded trough, too.

The Bush administration gave New York $8 billion in tax-free Liberty Bonds, only to see a big portion of that gift go for projects that have nothing to do with September 11th. Brooklyn's Atlantic Yards benefited from subsidized bonds, as did a midtown Manhattan office project. Even Goldman Sachs, which has nearly a trillion dollars in assets, got almost two million dollars towards its new headquarters.

Since when did honoring the dead become an occasion for fleecing the living?

After September 11th, small townships in New Jersey and Long Island quickly built modest but moving memorials to pay tribute to the loved ones they lost in the attacks. In Lower Manhattan, something else completely is being built: an overdue, over-budget monument to the ease with which politicians, bureaucrats, and opportunists spend other people's money.

Written by Jim Epstein and Nick Gillespie, narrated by Kennedy, and shot and edited by Epstein, with help from Anthony L. Fisher.

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  1. When Did Honoring the Dead Become an Occasion for Fleecing the Living?

    About 5 seconds after they announced the plans to build a 9/11 memorial.

    1. Unfortunately the *plan itself* were intended as an occasion to fleece the living.

      It was, right from the start, an attempt to increase some people’s social standing by demonstrating faux sympathy and ‘look at meeeee! I’m doing something *important*’.

      Forcing other people to spend their money to help these people rig their PR as just icing on the cake.

      1. Better to make people pay tolls to honor the dead than to take away people’s right to bear arms to honor the dead.

        1. I’m not sure how those two things are connected. It’s possible not to do either of them.

          This would be like me saying ‘better to beat a child than commit genocide’ as if I absolutely had to do one of those things.

          1. This would be like me saying ‘better to beat a child than commit genocide’ as if I absolutely had to do one of those things.

            Who the hell are you to criticize my parenting philosophy?

          2. Irish is pro child beating. We have it on record now!

            1. You don’t expect him to try to beat adults, so you? Children are far less likely to be able to fight back.

            2. I thought this was already on record. I never told you that I’m a running back for the Minnesota Vikings?

              1. You fucked over my fantasy football team last year, bastard.

      2. OK, so about 5 seconds BEFORE they even came up with the plans to build a 9/11 memorial.

      3. I agree to a certain extent but it was created to honor those who were lost in 9/11

    2. Christmas?

  2. Since when did honoring the dead become an occasion for fleecing the living?

    Probably about the time the Romans built the Coliseum, but it may have involved the Egyptians and their pyramids.

  3. “New York’s politically connected construction industry”

    So? Ya gotta problem wit that?

    1. Excuse me, I should have said “with *dat.*”

      1. “Wid dat”

        alternately, “widdat”.

  4. “where’s the Tea Party when you need them?”

    Uh, getting called racists by the New York Times.

    But no… when a lone, quite voice stands up at the back of the room and says, “Maybe we’re going just a teensy bit too far?” we’re shouted down as racist teabaggers who want to kill old people.

    Choke on your government Times columnists… you demanded it, you eat it.

    1. you demanded it, you eat it

      Yeah, they’re really suffering from all the tax subsidies and eminent-domained land.

  5. “Look, just because we’re bereaved, that doesn’t make us saps!”

  6. the most expensive office building in American history by a long shot

    And it’s a boring, ugly box. The graft has got to be unbelievable.

    1. To be fair, the original World Trade Center towers were criticized as unimaginative boxes as well, but eventually became iconic. Unfortunately, the WTC was more of what you’d call a normal New York project of graft and corruption that produced two useful and functional buildings.

      This was in fact, government at its worstest.

      1. Yeah, well at least we got a pair of ’em for probably less money. I don’t see the new one becoming iconic for anybody – it’s just too meh.

        1. A building created from the get-go to be an iconic building– designed by a committees of corrupt, entrenched power brokers.

          Yeah.

          1. It was almost comical watching the project morph from the initial conceptions – which could in fact be said to be “iconic” – to this. Every year the thing got more dull in order to “cut costs”.

    2. I actually like the building and the weird waterfall thingy from a purely aesthetic point of view if you ignore the ridiculous and unreasonable cost to taxpayers.

      1. the weird waterfall thingy

        I guess that’s part of the memorial? I’m talking only about the “Freedom Tower”.

  7. At roughly the same time ostentatious victimhood became a career.

  8. Construction costs for the September 11th Memorial and Museum have climbed to $700 million, with taxpayers footing a portion of the bill.

    You can’t build the world’s largest stainless steel urinal for peanuts.

  9. OT: Heterosexual same sex marriage outrages gays, say it trivializes the institution of marriage.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com……f50de640d4

    1. Be funny if the government comes by looking for marital “evidence”.

    2. What do you call the opposite of a lavender marriage?

  10. JUSTICE

    She was crowned the 2014 homecoming princess of Sand Creek High School at a Friday night football game.

    Scarlett was escorted onto the field at halftime by two of her best friends. As her name was announced, the crowd erupted in cheers.

    Scarlett, biologically a boy, was born Andy Lenh. But she identifies as a female and all year she has worn girl’s clothing.

    “I feel more comfortable like this,” Scarlett said.

    Good for you, Bub.

    Good for you.

    1. If it makes you feel better the main factor behind the vote was “wouldn’t that be fucked up if we did it?”

      1. To be fair, their guilt vote was for homecoming princess and not for a position of power that could have serious consequences like President of the United States.

      2. the main factor behind the vote was “wouldn’t that be fucked up if we did it?”

        In my day, some bullies would have just beat him up.

      3. If there’s no pig’s blood, what is the point?

    2. Good for you, Bub Babe.

      Might as well get her used to the patriarchy.

    3. Nice to know that you can get around biology by wishing.

      Be it now known to all that I am now 6’4″ tall, have an abdomen rippled like a semi-load of irrigation pipe, am backdated to 24 years old and handsome. My wife of 38 years will be pleased when she gets home from shopping.

      Next, I’m going to decide that gravity is optional and levitate instead of walking.

      1. You got my vote for Prom King.

      2. All you have to do is learn to miss the ground

    4. Is this what we’re reduced to? Bitching about whom a group of teenagers decided to vote for? As if Sand Creek High School’s homecoming ceremonies has any impact, whatsoever, on the daily lives of any member of the commentariat here?

      1. FIRST WORLD PROBLEMZ, YO!

      2. Sir, Sand Creek High School is destroying the sanctity of the Prom vote everywhere.

        You’re destroying America with your snark.

      3. What do you mean ‘we?’ I don’t have a problem with transgendered homecoming queens, you goddamned collectivist!

        1. Not to nitpick, but to nitpick, he’s not transgendered (yet), it’s a guy who stood up and said, “I’m now woman, hear me roar in my baritone!”

          My understanding is you don’t get to be called transgendered until there’s been some surgery. Right now, he’d be transvestite.

          1. Well, shit, looks like I’m wrong. Man I can’t keep up on the labels. I guess he IS Transgender. “Identifying with” is all it takes.

            I guess… what, transsexual is post-op?

            Ok, so he gets to roll with one of those “I’m transgender, and I VOTE!” bumper stickers.

            1. Ok, Jesus, Transsexual is ALSO “identifying with”, so… Let’s just consider the rest of this thread a place of silent reflection.

          2. Not quite.

            a) Trans*gendered* is thinking your sex doesn’t match your gender.

            b) Trans*vestite* is just a dude who dresses up like a woman.

            There are tons of straight, non-gender confused dudes who like to dress up as women and there are lot’s of people who think they’ve got the wrong gender who dress as their sex.

            You can be one without the other, or do neither, or do both.

            c) Trans-sexual is someone who has (or is actually in the process of) changed sex.

            1. Trans* :

              *vestite – Mostly an obsolete term used to describe any adoption of clothes typically worn by the opposite gender. “Cross-dresser” is used to denote a heterosexual male who dresses for non-sexual reasons whereas “Drag Queen” typically denotes a gay man or female impersonator and “transvestitic fetsihism denotes those who have erotic connections to dressing.

              *gender – Although it’s being used more and more as an umbrella term for gender-variance rather than a specific category, it applies mostly to those who truly feel that their insides don’t match their outsides. The term properly applies to anyone regardless of their surgical status – to reflect this, the “sex-change” operation is now reffered to as “Gender Confirmation” surgery. This does mean that there’s controversy over when it’s “offical”, I know.

      4. Who’s bitching? It’s a great opportunity for wise-assery.

        “Here, more than anywhere else that I know of or have heard of, the daily panorama of human existence, of private and communal folly ? the unending procession of governmental extortions and chicaneries, of commercial brigandages and throat-slittings, of theological buffooneries, or aesthetic ribaldries, of legal swindles and harlotries, of miscellaneous rogueries, villainies, imbecilities, grotesqueries, and extravagances ? is so inordinately gross and preposterous, so perfectly brought up to the highest conceivable amperage, so steadily enriched with an almost fabulous daring and originality, that only the man who was born with a petrified diaphragm can fail to laugh himself to sleep every night, and to awake every morning with all the eager, unflagging expectation of a Sunday-school superintendent touring the Paris peep-shows.”
        ~H.L. Mencken “Notes on America”

        I file this one under “Grotesqueries”.

        1. I think aesthetic ribaldry and miscellaneous rogueries covers it better.

          1. It should at least be cross filed under those headings.

  11. http://news.yahoo.com/report-s…..15207.html

    BLOOMING GROVE, Pa. (AP) ? Two troopers were ambushed outside a state police barracks in northeastern Pennsylvania during a late-night shift change, leaving one dead and another injured, and authorities scoured the densely wooded countryside and beyond on Saturday looking for the shooter or shooters.

    1. I’ll bet even money the assailant(s) were cop(s).

      1. Maybe there was a sweet pile of asset forfeiture sitting in there.

      2. See? See this, police? This is what a fucking war on cops looks like.

        When this shit is widespread you can bring back the rhetoric justifying your SWAT teams and APC’s.

        Until then, fuck off.

    2. Workplace Violence!

    3. “The incident in Blooming Grove shows, once again, that our first responders face constant danger in order that the rest of us may live in peace and safety.”

      Ok, fuck you. If I die in a home invasion robbery, it’s an unfortunate incident and it’s the reason I shouldn’t be able to own a gun. If a cop dies in a similar event, it’s proof that they’re outgunned, effectively in a war zone, and that’s why militarization is fully justified.

      1. The most dangerous jobs according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

        1.) Loggers
        2.) Fisherman
        3.) Pilots
        4.) Roofers
        5.) Sanitation Workers
        6.) Miners
        7.) Truck Drivers
        8.) Farmers/Ranchers
        9.) Power Lineman
        10.) Construction Workers

        Hmmm..law enforcement is not even in the top 10.

        1. It’d be the top of the list if it was a list of jobs that are dangerous to the general public. 🙂

  12. So what is Plan B?

    Moderate Syrian rebels and the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) reportedly struck a cease-fire deal on Friday, according to a group that has monitored Syria’s civil war.

    The groups agreed to a non-aggression pact in which they promised not to attack each other.

    1. Obama: Bomb them all, let Nancy Pelosi sort them out.

    2. That’s ‘Strategy B’.
      I think it involves snake-eating bears.

    3. I guess they didn’t get the memo that they’re supposed to be our “boots on the ground” and be willing to fight and die so the lightbringer can look like some kind strategery genius or whatever.

      1. The “moderates” looked at the outcomes of Obama’s strategies elsewhere, saw what cooperation with the Lightbringer’s brainstorms did for the cooperators, and ran, not walked, to an understanding with ISIS.

    4. You know who else agreed to a non-aggression pact in which they promised not to attack each other…

    5. The development could influence members of Congress to vote “no” on an authorization to train and equip moderate rebel groups as early as next week.

      I would fucking hope so!

    6. I don’t know what Plan B will be, but I’m pretty sure we’ll soon learn that the US has always been opposed to various factions of the “so-called moderate Syrian rebels.” The sad thing is that a very large fraction of Americans will believe it.

  13. “The incident in Blooming Grove shows, once again, that our first responders face constant danger in order that the rest of us may live in peace and safety.”

    Fuck off. The cops probably deserved it.

  14. To put this in perspective:

    The new WTC cost $3.8 billion. 2,600,000 square feet.
    1776 feet tall. 104 floors.

    Burg Khalifa cost $1.5 billion. 3,331,100 square feet
    2717 feet tall. 163 floors.

    1. They’re obviously not doing it right.

    2. Regarding the cost discrepancy, Burj Khalifa wasn’t built by NYC union ironworkers.

      1. Those sheiks are amateurs, AMATEURS, when it comes to corruption.

        Nobody does graft like America (FUCK YEAH!)

      2. Indian slave labor is pretty cheap.

        The “Freedom Tower” could almost certainly have been built more cheaply without the constant government meddling, but comparing it to the construction of a building in a third-world Arab hellhole using indentured servants is fucktarded.

        We treat (and pay) illegal immigrant laborers better than Dubai treats legal migrant workers.

  15. NY’s 9/11 Memorial: When Did Honoring the Dead Become an Occasion for Fleecing the Living?

    Since before the Pyramids?

  16. Even The New York Times’ stimulus-pimping columnist Joe Nocera has called World Trade Center rebuilding an “example of just about everything wrong with modern government,” asking, “where’s the Tea Party when you need them?”

    People like you f*cking killed it.

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