More Protests in St. Louis, White House Welcomes Lobbyists (Even More), Cops Killed Bank Robbery Hostage: P.M. Links

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  More protests are taking place today in St. Louis over the fatal police shooting of Michael Brown. Authorities had said they would be releasing the name of the officer who shot the 18-year-old today, but that has not happened because of threats on social media. The FAA has also banned low-flying aircraft over Ferguson on behalf of law enforcement.

• A mother who had been taken hostage during a bank robbery in Stockton, Calif., was killed not by the robbers, it turns out, but from police gunfire. She was hit about 10 times (all police) during a pursuit where both sides shot at each other.
• The White House is reversing one of its bans on lobbyists (not that the administration isn't full of them anyway) and allowing them to serve in "advisory" capacity on industry boards and commissions across the federal government.
• President Barack Obama seems to think he may have the opportunity to nominate a Supreme Court justice before his term ends. Or he at least thinks it's a way to try to motivate embattled Democrats to fight to retain control of the Senate in November.
• A helicopter carrying aid (as well as a New York Times journalist and a freelance photographer) crashed in Iraq, killing the pilot.
• Barneys has agreed to pay $525,000 to settle claims it racially profiled black and Latino customers in its efforts to fight shoplifting and credit card fraud.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

The FAA has also banned low-flying aircraft over Ferguson on behalf of law enforcement.

They do know everyone has a cell phone and access to social media, right? This isn't going to silence anything. Media helicopters or not.

[PD Scott]

Maybe they're afraid "Ukrainian rebels" will down one of the aircraft...

[Tonio]

Drones? That would be sweet if some private drones caught footage of cop brutality against rioters (who are different than looters).

[Pro Libertate]

Maybe we should assign a drone to follow each cop.

[MegaloMonocle]

Say I want to fly a drone over a protest.

Exactly how is the FAA going to find out about it in time to catch the drone, identify me, or otherwise do shit?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"President Barack Obama suggested to supporters Monday that he's likely to have the chance to nominate new justices to the Supreme Court before he is set to leave office in 2017.

"Taking a break from his Martha's Vineyard vacation to speak to a Democratic Senate Campaign Committee fundraiser on the island, Obama appeared to be predicting that there will be vacancies on the Supreme Court soon, though he did not indicate a specific time frame. He implored the guests to work to keep the Senate in Democratic control so that Democratic nominees won't be obstructed by Republicans."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....93793.html

[Brandon]

The only thing that interrupts this fuckwit's vacation is a fundraiser. Emblematic of his entire administration.

[Steve G]

he is set to leave office in 2017

Thanks for the reminder nut-punch

[Mercutio]

he is set to leave office in 2017

which gives them over two years to try to repeal the 22nd amendment

[MegaloMonocle]

Isn't that part of the Constitution?

You know, the Constitution nobody in
Washington cares much about, on account of its so old and all?

Why would they have to repeal the 22nd Amendment? Why wouldn't they just ignore it like they do the rest of the Constitution?

[Protagoronus]

Is reason planning on covering the David Frum in the Atlantic response to the NYT Libertarian Moment article?

I managed to find derp (other than the article) fighting derpily against Starchild in the comments:

Micheal Planck ? 8 hours ago
You are asking why should people have to pay to use other people's property? Isn't it obvious?
Look, things like math and literacy and fire are the intellectual property of society. We, as a whole, invented and preserved that intellectual property. If you want to use our intellectual property, you have to pay us for the privilege. And we have the right to set the price at any amount we feel like. If you don't like the price, you're free to invent your own math, written language, or fire.
Nevermind your ludicrous suggestion that a country can operate off of voluntary contributions (this alone shows you know nothing about economics or game theory), your position is simply hypocrisy. You want to claim the vast wealth of culture, science, and history for yourself, without paying for it. That makes you a moocher, a taker, a thief.
Get your own literacy, Libertarians. Until then pay the legally contracted price for it.

[Protagoronus]

Sorry, SugarFreed: http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....nt/375844/

[Fr?ulein Nikki]

The Frum piece was mentioned yesterday.

[Protagoronus]

Thanks, must have missed it. This piece of derp was too crazy not to repost. I almost feel bad about it. Almost...

[Mongo]

It's always good to re-post items. I was going to read this yesterday and forgot.

[Sevo]

"Get your own literacy, Libertarians."

Yep, no government, no literacy!
You have to wonder whether he really is this stupid or is simply hoping others are.

[Tonio]

I just invented a free-for-all math and language. The math is called "math" and it's exactly identical to the other math...

[Protagoronus]

Sounds edgy. Do you publish a newsletter?

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

You're violating my patents on addition. Consider this your formal cease and desist notification.

[JEP]

I do all my math in base-3 to avoid these kinds of conflicts.

[Tonio]

+10 base 3

[Warty]

That's a...special new variation of the social contract argument.

[Episiarch]

It's just an extension of the ROADZ...SOMALIA "argument". It's totally unsurprising that someone like him would try and find more ways to collectivize everything.

[Tonio]

Yeah, he's really stretching on that. I don't think he realizes the implications of claiming IP rights on stuff like Pi.

[Episiarch]

He's claiming collective IP rights on stuff like pi. It's insane. What does that even mean?

[Warty]

I'm pretty sure he means something about work making us free.

[Fr?ulein Nikki]

There's a legally contracted price. What's so hard to understand about that?

[Mad Scientist]

It means he wants knowledge to be secreted away, and only those who demonstrate the proper attitude would have access to it. He wants to return to the dark ages.

[cavalier973]

So...a servant of Vecna, eh?

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

That he's an idiot. More from the man who I hope is not related to Max Planck

None of them are right. The value of a libertarian is $1,000 a year (the price for 6 tons of wheat). That's how much you can make growing your own food, making your own tools, and smelting your own iron for those tools. Like a Viking.

The Vikings were the ultimate libertarian society. The Vikings were so poor they had to raid and trade just to make life bearable. They were the ones who got into tiny open ships and sailed through dangerous waters in the hopes that richer, more successful cultures would trade with them or possibly have something they could steal. Absent any larger governmental structure, the Vikings simply could not progress beyond individual chiefs and poverty.

Until they got kings. So there's the final outcome of any minimalist government: elites take over.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

He's not even in the USA.

I worry about my nephews. As for my child... I moved to Australia. The amount of psychic dread that has saved me is incalculable.

[Tonio]

The Vikings were the ultimate libertarian society.

Except for the NAP thing.

[cavalier973]

The Vikings were so poor they had to raid and trade just to make life bearable.

People living in wealthy societies don't have to trade, you know.

[PapayaSF]

And thank heavens we aren't controlled by elites!

[Headless Body of Agnew]

"had to raid and trade just to make life bearable."

I did this to Taiwan just now, while sitting around in my underpants. Jeff Bezos was my wingman,

[alan_s]

"The Vikings were the ultimate libertarian society."

Yeah, with all the raids and pillaging and plundering and all that. Almost as libertopian as Somalia.

[Sevo]

"None of them are right. The value of a libertarian is $1,000 a year (the price for 6 tons of wheat). That's how much you can make growing your own food, making your own tools, and smelting your own iron for those tools. Like a Viking."

Yep, every libertarian I know wants to smelt his own iron! Nothing says free market like a forge in the back yard!

[hamilton]

Pi belongs to all of us. Or to the circles, from who we stole it before putting them into reservations.

[Terr]

Is this supposed to some kind of Flatland spinoff.

[Zeb]

It means pay your taxes and stop complaining.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

I think there's a strong chance it might be a relative of Tony

However, you are likely to see a lot more amoral people than I do, not because your definition of morality is necessarily different (we both abhor force) but because your definition of force is different. To me, letting a man starve when you could have fed him is no different than shooting him dead, and since the man would have taken your extra food if you had not prevented him, both required force. In sheer point of fact, it is impossible not to use force in human relationships; the problem is to manage the force in ways that are fair and just.

[JEP]

the problem is to manage the force in ways that are fair and just.

Then you should point out that he's advocating a top down, mandatory definition of morality. Sounds a lot like those radical Christians trying to legislate morality to me.

And guess what, no one is going to make a law that applies exactly to every situation, so there will always be situations in which following the law requires you to do something you see as immoral.

A better idea is let individuals choose how they act as much as possible, so that they can choose to act in accordance to their own moral code, and not yours.

You don't have to solve the age old problem of what is Good and Bad. You just have to let people choose for themselves as much as possible.

[Pro Libertate]

He can have pi when he's filed each and every digit of it.

[jamesrk]

PInal tax?

[Pi Guy]

I hold the patent on Pi. All your circles and harmonic functions belong to me, bitches!

[Cytotoxic]

It's just the full realization of the SC.

[MJGreen]

I don't think it is, though it is the first time I've seen it put forth sincerely. Anthony de Jasay has responded to it a few times in the past. Or perhaps he's used it as a reductio ad absurdum for a broader point about public goods.

It should go without saying, but: everyone was already paid for their services. Demanding additional payment, or payment in perpetuity, is double-counting.

[MJGreen]

Oh, right, how could it take me so long to think of an example? This is one of his more famous pieces:

Your Dog Owns Your House

Your dog is alert, plucky and a fearsome guardian of your property. For all we know, without his services, you would have been burgled over and over again. Your belongings would be depleted and the utility you derived from your home would be much reduced. The difference between the actual value of your home and its unguarded value is the contribution of your dog, and so is the difference between the respective utilities or satisfactions you derive from it. We do not know the exact figure, but the main thing is that there is one.

[MJGreen]

Is it right, though, to stop at this primary level of contributions??should we not go beyond the cement works to the builder who built the kiln, the gas pipeline that feeds the fire , the workers who keep the process going? Tracing the ever more distant contributions at level after level, we get a manifold that is as complex as we care to make it, with a correspondingly complex jumble of numbers that purport to place rough-and-ready values on the contributions. We can count them moving sideways as well as backwards as far as the mind can reach, starting with that of your dog and ending (if you finally lose patience and decide to stop there) with the Founding Fathers or Christopher Columbus.

At this point, you give up and say that your house, and any other holdings you thought you owned, really belong to society as a whole, and so do the holdings of everyone else. Everybody has a rightful stake in your holdings and you have a rightful stake in everybody else's holdings. Society, that is "we" are alone entitled to decide how big everybody's stake ought to be. "We" are the rightful owners of everything, the masters of "our" universe. As such, "we" are entitled to take from Peter and give to Paul, as well as to regulate what Peter and Paul are allowed to do in matters of production, commerce and consumption.

[Protagoronus]

e-gads

[Pro Libertate]

Huh. Is there a company named eGad yet? Because there should be.

[goneGalt]

Actually...

[Pro Libertate]

It should be eGad. I'm suing.

[MJGreen]

Continue spamming because I really like it. Here's his conclusion, addressing the social contract:

Most modern theories of how society ought to work rest on some idea of agreement. Almost invariably, however, the agreement is fictitious, hypothetical, one that would be concluded if all men had equal "bargaining power," or saw things through the same "veil" of ignorance or uncertainty about their future. Or felt the same need for a central authority. The social contract, in its many versions, is perhaps the best known of these alleged agreements. All are designed to suit the normative views of their inventors and to justify the kind of social arrangements they should like to see adopted. Yet the only agreement that is not hypothetical, alleged, invented is the system of voluntary exchanges where all parties give visible, objective proof by their actions that they have found the unique common ground that everybody accepts, albeit grumblingly, but without anyone being forced to give up something he had within his reach and would have preferred. The set of voluntary exchanges, in one word, is the only one that does not impose an immorality in pursuit of a moral objective.

[Marshall Gill]

Yet the only agreement that is not hypothetical, alleged, invented is the system of voluntary exchanges where all parties give visible, objective proof by their actions that they have found the unique common ground that everybody accepts, albeit grumblingly, but without anyone being forced to give up something he had within his reach and would have preferred. The set of voluntary exchanges, in one word, is the only one that does not impose an immorality in pursuit of a moral objective.

Isn't that exactly the opposite of the other posts? All the talk about voluntary makes it sound downright libertarian.

[paranoid android]

The previous excerpts MJ posted are the author outlining the redistributionist logic and its logical extension. At the end of the essay he switches to explaining why it's bunk.

[MJGreen]

Yes, he's a libertarian (well, European liberal / anarchist). The above posts are his summation of a statist argument for limited or no property rights.

[Lady Bertrum]

He lost me at 'your dog owns your home'.

When my dog starts cleaning up his shit from the backyard he can then claim property rights.

[T]

You obviously don't understand your dog's thinking. By shitting on it, he claimed it.

[JW]

That was in response to you owing the collective something. He's mocking them.

[alan_s]

"That's a...special new variation of the social contract argument."

"Special" is right.

[expat]

Wow - that takes "you didn't build that" to a whole new level!

[JEP]

I've been known to flex my engineering privilege during discussions about the social contract.

A version of "you didn't build that" usually comes up, and I can say "Well, actually..." and then I can make an argument that they owe me money.

It doesn't ever seem to occur to them that at some point, someone had to actually build something, and that they might be arguing with one of those people.

One of the big problems with the social contract is that it has no limitations. It automatically assumes that every man, woman, and child is in debt to society, but it never states when or if that debt can be paid or if any one person owes more of a debt than any other.

If they're going to use the "you didn't build that" argument, they need to realize that it implies a master class of builders to which everyone is infinitely indebted. When you buy an iPhone, it don't actually own it, you're just renting it. And because you've purchased an iPhone you're benefiting from what someone else has built, and the Apple engineers can call in an infinite number of IOUs from you.

[Virginian]

You can draw all kinds of dividing lines in society, but I think Kipling nailed it with one his poems. There are Sons of Mary, and Sons of Martha.

They do not preach that their God will rouse them a little before the nuts work loose.
They do not teach that His Pity allows them to drop their job when they dam'-well choose.

[Matrix]

And this, to him, is a very rational and thought out idea. Nevermind that math wasn't created by society, but rather individuals that shared those ideas with their peers and society.

Society creates nothing. Only individuals create things.

And society =/= government. This is yet another fallacious "gotcha" that proglodytes try to use.

[Zeb]

Yeah. I think that the biggest mistake that collectivists make is assuming that collective ownership or decision making is even a intelligible proposition, let alone a practical or desirable possibility.

[Stormy Dragon]

I'd argue math is more discovered by individuals than created by them.

[Cytotoxic]

Breathtaking.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Fire? Fucking fire? Are you fucking kidding me?

[Rich]

And *fucking*!

[Marshall Gill]

You couldn't have done that if your genetic ancestors had not evolved sexual reproduction!

[cavalier973]

Fire came out of a DARPA project.

[Brandon]

legally contracted has an odd definition in this comment.

[Zeb]

"Fuck You, That's Why" shall be the whole of the law.

[alan_s]

" We, as a whole, invented and preserved that intellectual property."

Facepalm

"You want to claim the vast wealth of culture, science, and history for yourself, without paying for it. That makes you a moocher, a taker, a thief."

The fuck? You want to literally seize property from individuals, and I'm the thief? Double facepalm. Please tell me this was written by a robot or a life form from a distant galaxy or something.

[MJGreen]

I doubt this fuckstick has done anything to preserve this intellectual property. The millions of bureaucrats that are paid by the money we supposedly owe are not doing anything to preserve the intellectual property of civilization.

[alan_s]

"I doubt this fuckstick has done anything to preserve this intellectual property."

Exactly. But never forget that YOU'RE the moocher.

[ace_m82]

How does Planck explain the welfare state? He just called libertarians moochers but not actual moochers...

Logical consistency is dead in this age of government schools...

[JW]

Michaal Plank: Justifying anarchism to me, one more time.

[robc]

So, ummm, Michael Planck doesnt understand that patents expire?

I mean, yall know my extreme view on IP, but even arguing from the idiotic laws we have, his idea is fucking stupid.

And Ive now seen this twice, so someone thinks its clever and is spreading it around.

[Sevo]

"A mother who had been taken hostage during a bank robbery in Stockton, Calif., was killed not by the robbers, it turns out, but from police gunfire."

But the cops got home safely!

[black blood]

And in the end, isn't that really what's important? That the cops protect and serve there own.

[jimjam]

And with felony murder statutes being what they are, I'm surprised that the police don't do this more regularly. Why hold back when the bank robber will be held responsible?

[Robert]

Seems to me that if you let it be known by repeated demonstration that you shoot hostages 1st, you discourage people from taking hostages.

[Matrix]

Gun hating nannies can't understand why hunters want suppresors

Ah the old "why do they need---" rationale.

[PD Scott]

Why do they love noise pollution and hearing damage?

[Matrix]

People who don't know anything about guns assume that suppressors work like in the movies and only make a small "pew" sound, when it is anything but.

But this isn't the first time anti-gun morons have spouted off shit about things they are completely ignorant of.

[dantheserene]

As far as I can tell, antis wear their ignorance of anything related to guns as a badge of honor.

[Tonio]

What? [sfx: 1000 Hz tone]

[Brandon]

Aren't suppressors those shoulder thingies that go up? What does that have to do with hearing, you anti-science wingnut?

[Brandon]

Angela Williams, the founder of Mothers Against Murderers, told MailOnline today: 'There is no such thing as strictly controlled. How are you going to stop someone breaking into your house to get one of these?

If only there were some device people could use to defend their homes from thieves...

[hamilton]

"Mothers Against Murderers"?

[PD Scott]

I happen to know every one of those murderers had a mother. Clearly we need common-sense mother control.

[Rich]

So much this.

[Steve G]

Silencers, or 'suppressors' as they are known to gun enthusiasts

Yeah douchenozzles, because they don't silence the shot, but suppress it.

[Christophe]

the fact that we're going to have Supreme Court appointments

The plural tells me he's either an idiot or courting low-info voters again.

/whynotboth?

[Ted S.]

He plans to kill two of them?

[Careless]

He's got a phone and drones

[Aloysious]

Jeff Beck and ZZ Top - Ernie Ford's SIXTEEN TONS

It's actually Billy Gibbons w/Jeff Beck and his band. Seems like there is some Occutard propaganda in the mix, ignore that shit.

Good music, 'cause every post after this is going to be an experience in suckage.

[Sudden]

My favorite adaptation of the Ernie Ford classic.

[Aloysious]

That was certainly different.

[Sudden]

I'm a man of diverse tastes and interests.

[Homple]

Written by Merle Travis, popularized by Tennessee Ernie Ford.

[Rich]

The FAA has also banned low-flying aircraft over Ferguson on behalf of law enforcement.

Less likely to have bricks dropped on them from overpasses, I suppose.

[Sevo]

Well, if the cops don't see the raised hands, they might shoot 'em down.

[Geoff Nathan]

I'm pretty sure Ferguson is on one of the glidepaths to Lambert St. Louis Airport--I seem to remember plenty of low-flying airliners there. Should be interesting.

[Marshall Gill]

They knew there was a reason for the recent purchase of shoulder launched AA missiles.

[db]

Read the TFR: there is a special exemption for aircraft landing and departing that field.

[AlmightyJB]

"The FAA has also banned low-flying aircraft over Ferguson on behalf of law enforcement."

Seriously?

[Matrix]

Racists gun-toting shop owners are looking to keep out black folks looking to acquire things

I'm sure that would be the MSNBC headline anyway.

[PD Scott]

Well, that dude second from left is disturbing the narrative. Or something.

[AlmightyJB]

He's the hostage. jj

[MJGreen]

They're violating the freedom of minorities to participate fully in their society.

/Tony

[Episiarch]

She was hit about 10 times (all police) during a pursuit where both sides shot at each other.

We are starting to see more and more stories like this (there was one a while back about an apartment standoff and when a bloody hostage ran out he was shot by police), and while they don't surprise me considering that the police are becoming "never ask questions, just shoot first", it's fucking chilling that now, as the victim of a crime, you might also be a victim of the police as well. This behavior makes them even more utterly pointless than they were before, and in fact, even more dangerous than many criminals.

[cavalier973]

Terrorist: "Okay, you hostages on the right side of the room are free to leave."

Hostages: "What are you, nuts? There are cops out there!"

[Episiarch]

Basically, yeah. I have to say that if I got involved in a hostage situation, I would dread the cops coming because I wouldn't know if they were going to just start blasting the place up.

[Robert]

Hostages: "Got any extra guns for us?"

[Fr?ulein Nikki]

If you read the article, the cops are going off about how the robbers were so intent on killing anyone who got in their way, and shot over 100 rounds.

The cops shot 600.

[Episiarch]

Force concentration?

[Horatio]

Not defending the 5-0, but if I'm ever involved in a shootout I would try my damndest to return fire at a much higher rate than 6-to-1. I might die, but it won't be for a lack of shootin back.

[Dammit, not again]

In Turquoise-Blue Massachusetts, ~10,000 non-unionized supermarket workers rally in support of their beloved CEO.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/bus.....story.html

They've been doing this for weeks.

[grrizzly]

Apparently it's a big deal in Boston. The regular customers are also agitated. I've been to Market Basket a few times, looks like a dump. I cannot understand the intensity of the feelings for a grocery store.

[Dammit, not again]

They're the Wal-Mart of groceries (from a customer's perspective, so that's a good thing).

And from the employees' perspective, they're like Costco (they pay more, which everyone likes).

The groceries... well, no one's going to mistake them for Whole Foods.

[hamilton]

Actually to be honest they're pretty good as a grocer for most things, and are the only ones to carry Interesting Meat (e.g. tongue, decent linguica, other ethnic stuff). People are protesting all over up here and it's fucked everything up. Now I have to go back to Shaw's or Hannaford, both of which suck. But the protesting confuses me.

[Jordan]

Sounds similar to Aldi.

[Dammit, not again]

I've been to both places. Market Basket has much more variety and is just better than Aldi.

Aldi is just Euro-Trader Joe's (literally, Aldi is the parent company).

[Invisible Finger]

I can understand the feels for A grocery store, but this is a chain of stores. I thought chains were supposed to be evil?

Seriously though, the article mentions workers walking because the CEO was canned, but no mention of what the family squabble is all about. Money, yes, but exactly what about the money is the fighting about? Sorry, I don't give a fuck about strikers without pertinent facts.

[DEG]

Quick summary:

Ousted CEO is Arthur T. whose father is Telemachus. His cousin is Arthur S. whose father is George.

Telemachus rips off George's family after George's death. Arthur S., sues. Court case gets ugly, and supposedly involved a court room fist fight between Arthur T. and Arthur S.. Arthur S. wins.

Arthur T. made real estate deals with his brother-in-law.

After Arthur S. gets a majority of shareholders on his side (winning the court case helped), the Board fires Arthur T., officially over the real estate deals with his brother-in-law.

[DEG]

Oops... Arthur S. wins the court case. I don't know who won the supposed court room fist fight.

[Pro Libertate]

Telemachus? That's badass. Was Telemachus' father named Odysseus?

[DEG]

Not that awesome, but an unusual name: Athanasios.

Source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoulas_Brothers

[Pro Libertate]

Find me a grocery chain founded by a Charles Martel, and I'll shop there.

[Marshall Gill]

My 9 year daughter was writing a story about being a super-hero today. When she asked me for a name for her hero I told her "Reagan Martel".(her name is Reagan) She loved it.

[Pro Libertate]

I likee.

She should also integrate Macho Liberti.

[Invisible Finger]

OK.

Still don't give a fuck. Employees shouldn't have a dog in this fight. Especially since the family doesn't actually give a flying fuck about the employees personally (despite words to the contrary, the actions say neither family gives a shit.)

This shit happened with a long-standing amusement park near Chicago a few years ago. Patriarch died, leaving the two kids with the amusement park. Only the thing was divided thusly: amusement park business itself was left to one kid, real estate the park occupied left to the other kid. Kid with real estate immediately evicts amusement park so he could build a Costco.

Sad to see the thing go, but fuck family squabbles.

[DEG]

I agree.

One note about the employees: the employees like Arthur T. because they think he is some sort of "man of the people".

Market Basket has a profit sharing plan for all employees, even part-timers. One year the chain didn't do so hot, and the profit sharing plan shouldn't have paid out. Arthur T. used "his" own money to pay out to employees.

I use "his" in quotes because lots of his money he received thanks to his father's theft, so is that money really Arthur T's?

Showing my actions as to my take on this squabble, I dropped into a local Market Basket and bought some stuff.

[DEG]

Though not a lot of stuff, because, well, there's not much on the shelves and I figure if they do die, someone else will come along to take the place of decent-but-cheap grocer.

[DEG]

I can't understand the intensity either.

I shop at Market Basket because their prices are pretty good and they have things no other chain in the area has.

I shop their despite the stores being cramped and dated and their employees getting away with stuff that would have gotten my ass reamed out at the grocery store in Pennsylvania that I worked at when I was in high school.

[Tonio]

The sound of heads asploding just like in "Mars Attacks".

[Invisible Finger]

Some Market Basket employees said the standoff is squeezing them financially.

Bob Smart, 48, a warehouse worker from Lowell, hasn't been paid since he joined other warehouse workers who walked off the job.

Best laugh I had all day.

[jmomls]

If Bob was Smart, he wouldn't live in Lowell.

[Invisible Finger]

He likes having his life centrally planned. No personal responsibility that way.

[Zeb]

It's kind of awesome, in a way. The workers at Market Basket aren't unionized, so this shows that effective labor action can take place without freedom-unfriendly labor regulations. I guess we'll see just how effective it turns out to be in the end.

[Obama's Buttplug]

Should tampons be free?

Should women be given free tampons? That's what columnist Jessica Valenti argues for in her latest article for Britain's Guardian newspaper.

Valenti claims that because women make up half the world's population and need feminine hygiene products (unlike her headline, the article is not specific to tampons) for a good chunk of their lives, they should be free.

"But this is less an issue of costliness than it is of principle: menstrual care is health care, and should be treated as such," Valenti wrote.

Instapundit: "EVERYTHING FREE FOR THE WIMMENZ BECAUSE EQUALITY!"

[Rich]

Well, should prostate-cleaning supplies be free?

[jmomls]

Is toilet paper free? EVERYONE SHITS.

[Lady Bertrum]

EVERYONE SHITS

Awwwww. fond memories. When I potty trained by boys I read them this:

Everyone Poops

[PD Scott]

You would think the idea of government issue feminine hygiene products would frighten her deeply.

[Rich]

In Soviet Russia feminine hygiene products issue *you*!

[Invisible Finger]

In Soviet Russia, feminine hygiene products are made of concrete.

[Sevo]

Hey, the quota was 3.5 metric tons! Nobody said there had to be more than one!

[Invisible Finger]

Might as well have government install them for you, too.

[Raven Nation]

OK, so everyone in the coffee shop is now looking at me as I laugh my ass off.

[Invisible Finger]

We already have a trained force to do it, too: TSA.

Tampon Stuffing Agency
Toxic Shock Agency

[Raven Nation]

Yeah, and there is a wicked side note when considering "have government install them for you" alongside your user name.

[Knarf Yenrab!]

It would be just like it is now, but the price would drop to zero! Democracy!

[waffles]

Stop trying to limit women's access to healthcare! Women deserve access to good hygiene and anyone who argues otherwise is a monster!

Seriously these people are mad. Mad mad mad. And they are loud and listened to.

[Matrix]

Because it being free and given by the government means you'll get the high quality brands with all the extras that you pay for currently now, right?

Seriously, progs are complete morons.

[Tonio]

because women make up half the world's population

Actually, slightly more. Birth favors males, but women live longer. But more importantly since women only need tampons (or whatever) for thirty years (+/- 10) the total population of tampon-using people is way less than half.

[thom]

the total population of tampon-using people

Somewhere in the world there is a person who knows, as accurately as possible, what this number is.

[MJGreen]

Someone at Google.

[Fr?ulein Nikki]

Look, we already pay for your birth control. That means you don't need to have a period anymore. Done and done.

[Beautiful Bean Footage]

If you like your period, you can keep your period. Period.

[Rich]

What if you like your colon?

[Tonio]

You are a credit to your gender, Nicole.

(With appreciation for Warren Zevon, of couse).

[db]

Didn't what's-her-name write that and Zevon performed it?

[Tonio]

No, the other way around. Zevon wrote many of Ronstadt's "original" songs. Ronstadt is a very good performer but not a much of a songwriter. Zevon was a competent performer who was a consummate songwriter.

[Virginian]

Zevon's the shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqogaK5sN7Q

One of my favorite love songs.

Oh and Renegade is my jam.

[Virginian]

Better link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbIDMOv_DIQ

[db]

I loved Zevon, and missed the opportunity to see him live in Fort Worth when I was there on biz many years ago. Just goes to show you should never assume you'll get more than one chance at anything.

[Ted S.]

Why should I be forced to pay for your tampons?

Money that I could use to feed my children would, under your proposal, go to pay for your tampons. Why do you want to starve my children?

[db]

Women want free tampons, they can go back to staying at home and cooking and cleaning while the man goes to work and gets paid. Otherwise, use your own fucking money, ladies.

[New West Republic]

They should be free, but you have to stand in line all day on the off chance they're still in stock when you get into the store. If not, here's a slightly wilted cabbage.

[Rich]

The White House is reversing one of its bans on lobbyists ... to serve in "advisory" capacity on industry boards and commissions

"We'll just *deem* them 'advisors'."

[Sidd Finch v2.01]

ISIS supporters talking Robin Williams. Twitter has reached the singularity

[Aloysious]

Terror boss praises convicted terrorist Khaled Sharrouf as 'good, loveable kid'... while his 7-year-old holds a severed head

Khaled Sharrouf's son, believed to be aged seven, had to use both hands to hoist the decapitated head up as he posed for a chilling photo in the northern Syrian city of Raqqa

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Precocious.

[waffles]

VICE on the Islamic State

I've only watched the first 3 parts, but if you want a glimpse into how "the caliphate" is running Raqqa this is as good as it gets. Vice produces a lot of content, not all of it good. But classics like "The Vice guide to North Korea" really drew me in. This is good stuff.

[Sidd Finch v2.01]

Shane's videos are so obviously bullshit that I don't trust anything from Vice.

[waffles]

Why do you have to trust it? It's entertainment journalism. Trust yourself and enjoy the ride.

[Sidd Finch v2.01]

I trust the entertainment. I don't trust the journalism.

[Dammit, not again]

Bill Gates asks the tough questions: Have you hugged a concrete pillar today?

http://www.gatesnotes.com/Book.....dern-World

[Warty]

This is not very sexy

At least not until the tasteful gallery of sexy sluts at the bottom. Way to class up the joint, HP.

[Mock-star]

Broken people often attract other broken people. My heart goes out to Ms. Mack.

[Aloysious]

Iraq crisis: Islamic militants 'buried alive Yazidi women and children in attack that killed 500'

Militants in north-western Iraq have buried women and children alive during their offensive against the Yazidi ethnic minority, according to Iraq's minister for human rights.

The bodies were reportedly found in a mass grave in the wake of Isis's push towards the Sinjar mountain range, where tens of thousands of Kurdish-speaking refugees have been trapped to the point of starvation.

Mohammed Shia al-Sudani said his government had evidence that 500 Yazidi civilians had been killed so far, and that some of the victims had been buried alive. A further 300 Yazidi women have been kidnapped as slaves, he added.

[Obama's Buttplug]

See here's the thing, you god damn islamic jihadists. If you were just shooting them in the head, I could understand that. But when you kill people in this manner, it tells me that you are doing it to get a boner.

islamic jihadist = cunt with a hard-on

[AuH20]

Reasonoids, I'm laptop shopping right now. Want something that is all fancy now so that in 3-4 years its mid to low end, not gutter.

Alienware 14, Lenovo, or Macbook Pro?

[AuH20]

Addendum: I'm heavily against Macbook Pro. People answering that will be hunted down.

[PapayaSF]

Why not a MacBook Air? I just got one, and it's great. Three pounds, excellent build quality, very thin. You can get an external DVD drive if you really need one. And Macs hold their value, unlike most PC stuff. My previous MacBook lasted seven years, before it got too slow.

[Episiarch]

Go to Cyberpower and see what they have. I think you can customize too.

[AuH20]

How's their customer service/warranty stuff?

I tend to like to buy insane warranties. Never know when your walking to the shitter with your laptop and you drop it and crack the screen (...I may have done this once).

[Episiarch]

I don't know. I use them to build my custom game desktops because they allow such extreme customization, but their prices can be pretty good. I've never called their customer service so I have no idea how it is. But they put them together well. And you can sometimes get free shipping (my last game computer from them cost me $725 with free shipping and it's a beast).

[Warty]

Customer service is fine. I had a power supply that died and they sent me a new one.

[Rich]

Try Tiffani down at the "Impact Zone". 😉

[waffles]

Get a Macbook Pro and let the hunt begin. I'll be ready.

[AuH20]

I don't know who you are...

[Christophe]

My Lenovo W520 is not showing too much age 2.75 years in.

I got it with a 3-year next business day onsite service warranty. Never had to use it.

YMMV obviously.

[LynchPin1477]

The Lenovo X1 Carbons look hot, but I doubt the contextual function buttons would work with Linux, so that may be out. Don't go Mac. Just don't.

[PapayaSF]

Why not?

[JW]

Dell Latitude laptops are absolutely bulletproof. It Dell's business line, not to be confused with their shit loss-leader inspiron laptops.

I always get them refurbed for my .org at their business outlet and never have a problem with them. They typically come with 3 year next business day warranties, but I rarely need it.

http://www.dell.com/us/dfb/p/

[Rhywun]

I have an Asus "gaming" rig and I really like it. Don't use it much (mostly use my iMac) so I can't speak for longevity but it's got the best combination of power and looks of any of the Windows laptops I looked at.

[Aloysious]

'F*** off Jew!' What I was told when I photographed a 'jihadist' flag flying in LONDON

I WAS told this morning by a community activist in east London to be kind in this article to the Bengali Muslim youths who threatened violence last night?and who told me to "F*** off Jew, you're not welcome here."

So let me state her well-meaning view that they're "good boys" and that they've been raising much money for the victims of the terrible violence in Gaza.

My wife, a Bengali Muslim herself, disagrees.

She thinks they're a "disgrace", both to their families and to their shared community.

My wife is always right.

[AuH20]

For homecoming, whose theme is "Students and Alumni of Color", my college is hosting this event:

7 p.m., "Climate Policy: How Can
Science Be Used More Effectively?"
with Marcia McNutt '74, Editor-in-Chief, Science

In any policy consideration, science is but one of many inputs that decision-makers must weigh. In the case of climate policy, economic and political considerations have often trumped science in the final analysis. With scientists issuing ever more dire predictions about the consequences of inaction on curbing greenhouse gas emissions, and time to take action running out, what solutions are there for increasing the effectiveness of science in decision-making?

There are some success stories in which science has been the driver in reducing fossil fuel emissions. These successes illustrate that focusing at levels other than the federal level can be quite effective, and that sometimes the best way to address climate is through a related issue, such as human health or water availability.

Italics added. Colorado College fucking sucks, guys.

[Ted S.]

I'm not albino; therefore I'm of color.

I feel bad for Edgar Winter however.

[Invisible Finger]

White is ALL the colors.

[Warty]

There are some success stories in which science has been the driver in reducing fossil fuel emissions.

Such as fracking? Nuclear power?

[Knarf Yenrab!]

time to take action running out

I thought it ran out in 2003, but I suppose it was kind of the Climatologists to give us a reprieve.

[PD Scott]

World's fastest camera: 4.4 TRILLION frames per second, but the resolution on the 1 sq meter sensor is only 450 pixels by 450 pixels.
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that twelve scientists from two Japanese universities have built the world's fastest high-speed camera.
this type of high-speed photography, according to the scientists' article in nature photonics, is a valuable scientific tool "for studying fast dynamics in photochemistry, spintronics, phononics, fluidics, and plasma physics."
Basically, the camera is so fast the University of Tokyo scientists were able to visually capture "the conduction of heat, which is transmitted at a speed equivalent to one-sixth the velocity of light."
If you played back one whole second at the cinema-standard 24 frames per second, we'd end up watching the one video for the next 5800 years (give or take).

[Rich]

Ah, but is it fast enough to capture the conduction of *stupidity*?

Seriously, pretty cool.

[Tonio]

That's a whole lot of data. Srsly.

[Protagoronus]

Sounds awesome. Hope to see some videos from it soon.

[cavalier973]

A helicopter carrying aid (as well as a New York Times journalist and a freelance photographer) crashed in Iraq, killing the pilot.

I had to read this sentence thrice before I got the meaning. "A helicopter [that was] carrying aid..." instead of "A helicopter carrying-aid."

[jmomls]

Only one dead NYT journalist?
Oh well, it's a start.

[BigT]

Sounds like the pilot died, unfortunatley, and not the NYT fabricator.

[Aloysious]

Jewish group asks France to rename 'Death to Jews' hamlet

A prominent Jewish group, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, has asked the French government to rename a small village in central France that is currently called 'Death to Jews' ('La Mort aux Juifs')

...snip

Requesting the name change, Mr Samuels said "the current surge in public and violent expressions of anti-Semitism makes us uneasy regarding the motives of those seeking to reside at such an address".

He said the name could have been in existence since the Crusader pogroms that led to the expulsion of France's Jews in 1306.

But the deputy mayor of Courtemaux, Marie-Elizabeth Secretand, appeared to downplay any concerns over the name, telling Agence France-Presse news agency: "It's ridiculous. This name has always existed."

[cavalier973]

"This name has always existed."

Even before there were actual Jews, surprisingly.

[Rich]

"In the beginning was the Word"

[Brandon]

But "Redskins" is racist and must be changed.

[MJGreen]

And only Americans could be so racist.

[PD Scott]

More about the gamer SWATting from last Friday. No leads at present.

"When they said we were getting Swatted I thought it was a joke. I was still in my boxers, ran down and there were guns to my head," one of the victims told Cavitt.

[Christophe]

"Every time you take officers off of the beat to handle a hoax call, it creates a dangerous situation because something serious could be happening elsewhere," said Officer Michael Bowman of the Cobb County Police Department.

I love how the one time a government stooge understands opportunity cost is when he uses it to completely miss the point.

[AuH20]

So, Yahoo makes you get a Yahoo ID to play Fantasy Football now? Man, that sucks.

Also, how much longer do I have to join sloopy's league? Anyone know?

[Virginian]

Seconded. I wanna play this year.

[Brandon]

We've got 9 so far, it appears.

[Brandon]

And the draft is in 5 days.

[Brandon]

Sloop, can we still open it up? Or is the Bye week more popular than Goldwater?

[Brandon]

Personally, I vote Bye. Screw that commie traitor.

[Brandon]

Although I suppose in a truly free market fantasy league the incumbents shouldn't be able to make rules to keep newcomers out. The "draft" concept is kinda protectionist, too.

[Apatheist ?_??]

It's not full yet, but you'll have to ask sloopy.

[cavalier973]

100 most viewed Youtube videos in 2013.

Unfortunately, the kitten died.

[Jordan]

Nooooo. Somebody posted that kitten video here a while back too. I don't want to relive that nut punch.

[AuH20]

LA Reasonoids... we should have a meet up. I'm moving to Playa Del Ray/Culver City/Santa Monica (still looking at places) at the beginning of September.

So, jesse, do you want to help me make this happen? How do we generally get this ball rolling?

[cavalier973]

Sounds like somebody will need help moving.

[AuH20]

I saw the title and thought I'd been Rick Roll'd

[Los Doyers]

Housewarming party? Awesome. Usually the mover supplies all the hooch.

[Brandon]

You're leaving Colorado for California? Are you going full commie, or just TEAM BLUE?

[Sudden]

WHY DO ALL THE LIBERTARIANS END UP ON THE WESTSIDE?!?!!?!

I get lonely here in hipster-progderptopia downtown.

[grrizzly]

But you can walk to LA Opera or Ballet. Isn't it what you do every other day?

[jesse.in.mb]

You can always visit us on the westside. We can go to Gambrinus and have Baltika. It's divey and Russian.

[Sudden]

Ok. I hear Russian food is awful (the one aspect of the trip I'm not looking forward to). But I might have to try that out.

Although, if I want to hang out with gays and Russians, WeHo is a bit closer to me.

[jesse.in.mb]

Who doesn't like potato dumplings? and ...potato dumplings with sour cream?

I really like the place. It's right on King's Harbor, one of the main guys who works there is a little strange, but really great, and I have an odd nostalgia for Baltika #9.

It's a shame Redondo is going to gentrify it out of existence. I'm not against gentrification per se, but they're bulldozing successful businesses and putting a mall in while malls in much more accessible locations are failing hard. It's pure spite.

[Whahappan?]

Fuck sour cream. Butter and onions or GTFO.

[jesse.in.mb]

I'm just the social secretary. We can fire off a region wide message that we're going to do something and see who shows up. Just tell me when and where.

We can also feel people out generally (no homo) to check availability, but that usually just leads to lots of talk and no action.

[PD Scott]

You may remember the case of Celia Savage, the young woman from North Georgia who liked to detonate pipe bombs in the woods and engage in other unapproved drug related hobbies. She was given probation but did not exactly turn over a new leaf.

Savage was arrested Saturday night and accused of destroying about $200 in furniture at an area tattoo parlor. Police say she faces four felony and three misdemeanor charges, including possession of methamphetamines, driving under the influence, criminal trespass and possession of prescription drugs with intent to distribute.
Federal prosecutors had asked for three years in prison followed by three years of supervised release, citing the seriousness of the charges, anti-government statements she had posted online and previous run-ins with law enforcement.
Her attorney had argued Savage was immature and suffered from untreated mental illness at the time of her arrest, saying she detonated bombs as a form of release for her anger and frustration and never intended to hurt anyone.

[Andrew S.]

Police in Ferguson fire tear gas on protestors with their hands up in their own backyard

Do not read the comments. That warning is even stronger than it usually is. The comments are a complete dumpster fire.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

I'm goin' in.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Christine Elizabeth from Facebook4 hours ago
Idiots should have went in their damn house like they were told. Complete disregard for authority.

OBEY.

uhygtfrd 2 hours ago
They got gassed for disturbing the peace and not following police orders in the midst of rioting. You werent just 'in your yard hanging out' Just saying, dont do that and then say youre the innocent victim. Anyway, destroying the community doesnt solve anyones problems, it just makes you look worse.

Being on your own property = disturbing the peace and destroying the community apparently

April Rogers from Facebook4 hours ago
Act a Fool and get treated like a FOOL...I'm sorry but they knew this was coming so they were a threat to the police...after all that happened those police didn't know if those people were going to start breaking into houses and loot or worse kill someone...Anyone out at that time was and should be considered a threat to everyone...They were warned to stay in your houses and they were warned about the tear gas so they should have taken their asses in their house...

Everyone is a threat! This one must be related to a cop or something.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Jake McClain from Facebook5 hours ago
Funny thing is-the time for a peaceful protest is gone. As soon as it turned into a volatile situation, you gave up your right to assemble. Or do you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the law?

Other people violating the law voids your rights.

Stephen Mennemeyer from Facebook5 hours ago
I don't have time to read all this, but anyone claiming this to be about race is fuckin moron and an asshole. The riots were cause by stupid selfish dumbasses destroying their own neighborhood and stealing from their neighbors. I hate cops, but the people (if that's what you want to call them) that are doing this and encouraging others to do this are despicable. I actually saw some politician on ch 2 news saying over and over if this case isn't handled their way that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Actually encouraging this. Then moments later pleading with the people to stop. Pathetic. Just pathetic. I wouldn't consider myself a racist, but when you act like this you give everyone a reason to be. The truth about racism is blacks are the biggest racist of all ethnicities.

I'm not a racist but those aren't really people!

What a mess of a thread.

[Invisible Finger]

Thread riot!

[Dweebston]

[Stockton Police Chief Eric] Jones met with Holt-Singh's husband, Paul, over the weekend to inform him of the department's findings and to tell him they would be publicly announced Monday, department spokesman Joseph Silva said.

Flanked, no doubt, by a few armed deputies.

The victim died "from gunshots fired by police officers as they confronted bank robbers who used her as a human shield," Jones told reporters

Damn those misplaced gunshots for causing this woman's death!

[Aloysious]

Readers pick women for the dollar

A recent BBC Magazine piece on the absence of women on US paper currency prompted readers to suggest which women they thought should be printed on the dollar. Here are some of the best.

1. Mother Teresa
2. Laura Ingalls Wilder
3. Rosa Parks
4. Amelia Earhart
5. Susan B Anthony
6. Christa McAuliffe
7. Georgia O'Keeffe
8. Anna Mary Robertson Moses, forever known just as Grandma Moses
9. (I give up)

[Pro Libertate]

What, no Oprah?

[flye]

Oprah is made of money, not the other way around.

[Pro Libertate]

Look, has any American woman ever been bigger than Oprah? Let's be honest here. Heck, no Oprah, no Obama.

[flye]

Agreed, she can already sell books by the truckload. If she were to release an Oprah Bitcoin it would immediately bring virtual currency into the mainstream.

[Pro Libertate]

Her network is OWN. I mean, come on, that's as American as it gets.

[cavalier973]

No Martha Washington? No Abigail Adams?
No Sacajawea, even?

Mother Teresa wasn't American, was she?

The country is doomed.

[hamilton]

Abigail would've gotten my vote.

Maybe Sojourner Truth?

[Pro Libertate]

Salma Hayek?

[hamilton]

Well, if you're going that route, then I vote for Kate Upton. But we'd have to make the bills bigger. And, um, waterproof.

[Pro Libertate]

Money is waterproof. It's basically cotton and linen. Go ahead and wash some.

[hamilton]

Okay, okay, yes, yes I know already. I was just using that as a euphemism for "non-semen-stainable". Okay? ARE YOU HAPPY NOW PRO LIB? HUH?

[sobs].

[Pro Libertate]

Okay, then money is launderable.

They could swap out the woman each year based on whoever wins the Miss America pageant, giving the contest real meaning again.

[Ted S.]

Hedy Lamarr. She helped invent the cell phone.

[Andrew S.]

That's Hedley!

[Invisible Finger]

The country was doomed the moment the Standing Liberty quarter was changed so she wasn't topless.

[Pro Libertate]

Topless women seem so quintessentially American, though.

[The Laconic]

No Sacajawea, even?

A "Sacajawea dollar"? The very concept is laughable. Never happen.

[Pro Libertate]

That doesn't count. For some reason.

[Pro Libertate]

Neither does Susan B. Anthony.

[hamilton]

Well, to be fair, the topless Susan B. Anthony coin really flopped in the focus groups.

[Pro Libertate]

Well, Americans have certain standards. And she didn't measure up to those.

[PD Scott]

Mother Teresa?! That crazy weirdo suffering freak who wasn't born in the US?

Women used to be on paper money back in the 19th century.
"During the history of the United States, only two women have appeared on US paper money. Martha Washington, the wife of the first US president, George Washington, appeared on the series 1886 and 1891 $1 US Dollar (USD) silver certificates. She also was on the series 1896 $1 USD silver certificate, along with her husband. Pocanontas was featured on the series 1869-1878 $10 USD notes, with the image coming from an engraving of a painting by T.A. Liebler. All other personifications of women on US paper currency have involved fictional or mythical characters, such as the goddess Liberty."

[PapayaSF]

Put the Liberty goddess back on.

[hamilton]

We are now a country of Science and Reason (drink) and thus no longer can tolerate elements of myth and fantasy on our currency.

So make it some other goddess.

[Brandon]

Gaia?

[PD Scott]

Is it not bizarre that this quarter was approved and issued? Why didn't the Mint think of the children?

[PapayaSF]

Now, this is paper currency. Especially the front of the $5 note.

[flye]

So instead of a real person, some stylized representation of an ideal woman ala the architecture on euro notes. I'm sure that'll go over well with the jezzes.

[Pro Libertate]

This is America, so you mean some centerfold, right?

[flye]

Potato potahto.

[Invisible Finger]

If we got a focus group of jezzes to design the ideal woman for the liberty dollar, we'd wind up with a woman who looks strikingly similar to George Washington.

[flye]

But with facial hair.

[Rich]

which women they thought should be printed on the dollar

I'll say *all* of them -- *if* they're then placed in a binder.

[Karl Hungus]

9. Rosie O'Donnell (though the area reserved for ht portrait would take up a much larger portion of the bill.

[Aloysious]

You. Are. A. Monster.

[Invisible Finger]

I thought Taft was already on currency?

[Brendan]

3 dollar bill?

[Fr?ulein Nikki]

Mother Teresa? So, an inappropriately religious figure who wasn't even American? On what planet is that the "best" choice?

[Warty]

Well, we have this slot for a woman who did absolutely nothing for the poor and got off on watching them suffer and die. Do you have a better suggestion?

[Pro Libertate]

Leona Helmsley?

[PD Scott]

I thought that was Hillary Clinton/Elizabeth Warren/Nancy Pelosi...

[BiMonSciFiCon]

Lady Hitler?

[Fr?ulein Nikki]

Well, if that's your slot, then no, not really.

[hamilton]

Jagoda Munic?

Jagoda Muni? was elected chair of Friends of the Earth International in 2012. She has been on the executive committee since 2004. She joined Friends of the Earth Croatia as a volunteer in 1997 and was president of the group from 2001 to 2007. She has degrees in biology; library and information sciences; and pollution and environmental control. She has lead biodiversity research projects and public advocacy campaigns including an anti GMO campaign, which resulted in one of the strictest anti GMO laws in the World.

[Raven Nation]

Well, to be fair, it is the BBC and a lot of Europeans are of the mind that the US OWES the rest of the world.

[flye]

Chelsea Manning

[Ted S.]

I vote for Belle Starr.

The Canadians can pu8t Karla Homolka on the loonie.

[Headless Body of Agnew]

10. Deirdre McCloskey

Seriously.

[Knarf Yenrab!]

I can only fathom how many heads would explode, from Krugman to O'Reilly.

[Virginian]

Harriet Tubman. Most badass woman in American history.

[Ted S.]

Pam Grier. As far as I know Harriet Tubman never weaponized her afro.

[New West Republic]

+1 big bird cage

[Coeus]

I vote for O'Keeffe. As long as the other side of the coin looks like a vagina. Then, canada has their loonies, and we can have poonies.

[lap83]

except she was very adamant against the interpretation of her paintings as sexual

[Coeus]

Wasn't she admittedly drawing closeups of sexual organs? Granted, not human ones, but denying sexuality there is a bit of a stretch.

She had to be trolling. I think I'll become an artist. Seems rife for lulz.
"Here's my masterpiece made of severed donkey dicks. Don't you dare call it sexual!!!"

[Raven Nation]

Hmm, not women, but I wonder how long before there are demands to put Obama on the currency?

[Pro Libertate]

I was just thinking about this. Barring a scandal that totally wrecks his presidency (which isn't exactly unlikely), I suspect we'll hear lots of calls for things memorializing the most important thing ever to happen in the U.S.--the election of a guy with a black parent.

[flye]

Ann Dunham, who legend tells us stood astride two continents while giving birth to The One.

[Invisible Finger]

I think he should go on the EBT cards first.

[Pro Libertate]

That seems fitting. In fact, they should be renamed in his honor. As should medicine, which should be called obamanation from now on.

[Obama's Buttplug]

Jessica Alba would look good on a dollar bill. Damn good.

[Invisible Finger]

Dollar bills are only inserted into g strings anyway.

[Steve G]

Helen Keller

[Coeus]

SJW humor.

I believe this comment sums it up nicely:

Bort on June 26, 2014 @ 1:06 pm
Jesus fucking christ. Even in your own comics you SJWs fail to have even a shred of self-awareness

[db]

WTH is SJW?

[Coeus]

"intersectional feminism" powered by a perpetual outrage machine, fueled with double standards and hypocrisy.

Social
Justice
Warrior

[Pro Libertate]

Ohhhh. I thought it meant "Safe for Jewish Women."

[db]

Oh, so something I can ignore. Thanks.

[Coeus]

Oh, so something I can ignore. Thanks.

As long as you're not a male in college.

[DEG]

A particular sub-culture of the Cult of the Perpetually Aggrieved.

[The Late P Brooks]

I was perusing the Missoulian (Missoula, Montana newspaper) on line this morning, and bumbled onto an obituary for a Jamie Kelly who is almost certainly "our" maniacal ranting foul-mouthed former commenter. I liked that guy. No cause of death was given.

The CDC should issue an urgent warning on the health hazards posed by being a HnR commenter.

[Jordan]

Yeah, somebody posted that in a couple threads last night and this morning. He was truly a master of the profane arts.

[Pro Libertate]

Yes, I didn't comment when this news broke, but RIP. I feel I should add something rude, but I'll leave that to my more able commenter colleagues.

[db]

Few could do rude like Jamie Kelly.

[Rich]

It certainly drives up the BP.

RIP, Jamie.

[Warty]

Fuck.

[Coeus]

Apparently, there are a ton of women out there who feel entitled to men's attention and bodies.

[Coeus]

it appears to be an epidemic.

(took about 45 seconds to find those links, imagine how many you could find with 3 full minutes.)

Maybe we need to have a rally? Any suggestions for a title?

(Bonus link: feminist gets friendzoned, blames it on the patriarchy.)

[Virginian]

(Bonus link: feminist gets friendzoned, blames it on the patriarchy.)

Hmm I wonder why he turned her down..

[Coeus]

When she got criticism, here was part of her reply:

I recognize that women who struggle to find partners often have competing challenges ? some women meet men who objectify them and want to jump into bed with them without regard to knowing them as people. Women with this experience often take great issue with my story because what they see is a man who wants substance and not merely sex. But the flip side can be equally exploitative ?dudes (and that is intentionally plural) who want to use me for intellectual masturbation and who benefit from my capacity to offer deep and consistent emotional support, which they happily and thoughtlessly exploit on their way to sexual and/or full romantic connections with other partners. And mind fucks are not what I'm interested in.

She just perfectly defined "friend zoned".

[Dweebston]

This is so hilariously un-self-aware that it must be parody. It can't not be.

[Pro Libertate]

I'm gladly many years away from dating and thankful as always for my wife. From where I'm sitting, it seems to me that men should run a social media check on potential dates. If she bitches about men, either generally or, perhaps even worse yet, specifically, eschew.

[Dweebston]

I've said no. Her reaction, a mixture of confusion, disbelief, and anger, was worth foregoing the cold walk home.

[Dweebston]

Ugh. Nix "foregoing" in the foregoing.

[Steve G]

I know right, I hear Sophia Lauren complaining about this constantly.
Stop dressing like a washed-up hag and be desireable if you want to be desired.
Fucking whiners, with a modicum of effort they can basically own any situation they are in from their teens thru their thirties (guys are literally hard-wired to give them our full attention) and they either squandered it or can't understand why it doesn't just continue on forever.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"Obama's Failures Once Helped Rand Paul; Are They Now Impeding Him?"

http://dc-web1.commentarymagaz.....ce=twitter

[Coeus]

And the parenting of the year award goes to...

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WHAS11) -- A fight captured on camera at the McDonald's in Fern Creek could highlight an even bigger problem in the community.

You can't tell how the fight starts but this video clearly shows punches being thrown.

And then this mother apparently chimes in saying "whop her ****."

This all happened Wednesday at the McDonald's in Fern Creek on Bardstown Road.

It looks like the suspects go after an employee. In the video a mother watches the incident unfold and appears to try and block others from breaking up the fight.

[Brandon]

"It seems like shit like this is always fat women. I bet she's fat."

*click*

"Yep."

Fat women should be banned as a danger to society.

[PapayaSF]

No, it's almost always black women.

[Brandon]

This was not. And it's really not. The racial mix seems to be fairly diverse, although I've never seen an Asian one. But they are fat. Always.

[PapayaSF]

Are you sure? It was hard to tell from the video, but they looked like light-skinned black women to me.

[Raven Nation]

Doubts surfacing in the climatologist community:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/re.....165812.htm

FTA:

"We have been building models and there are now robust contradictions," says Liu, a professor in the UW-Madison Center for Climatic Research. "Data from observation says global cooling. The physical model says it has to be warming."

[BiMonSciFiCon]

Look, the science is settled. Now give me all your money to fix it. Or blow it on another house. Whatever. /manbearpigslayer

[cavalier973]

The data is obviously flawed. I bet it isn't even peer-reviewed.

[userve32]

That makes a lot of sense dude.

http://www.AnonWays.tk

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Barneys has agreed to pay $525,000 to settle claims it racially profiled black and Latino customers in its efforts to fight shoplifting and credit card fraud.

Why is "Latino" capitalized but "black" is not? (Latino is a race?) I don't write well, obviously, but capitalizing one adjective and not another, of similar value, reads funky.

[RightofCenter]

Duh, it's because the Latinos are from Latin, moron. Where do you think the blacks are from, Blackia?

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The town East Bumfuck is populated by Morons and imbeciles.

[Steve G]

Eh, my favorite is when folks go from speaking perfect English without accent to saying the word Latino (or other Spanish words) with a thick accent and back to perfect English again.
It always makes me laugh since you never hear with other languages.

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My observation on this general topic is that it is open season on asians and their 'flied lice' instead of 'fried rice'. I have read this mocking several times on H&R.

Of course the best approach is to mock everyone about anything anytime.

The Russian media's portrayal of President Obama eating a banana is a good example. For all of his faults, Obama has thick skin. We could do worse.

[Virginian]

For all of his faults, Obama has thick skin.

Seriously?

[Sevo]

"We could do worse."
We haven't yet.

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Richard Nixon tried to impose wage and price controls in my lifetime. Woodrow Wilson was a batshit crazy academic and KKK grand wizard. Andrew Jackson marched Amerinds at gunpoint from their homes. Lincoln freed american blacks from the bonds slavery, in a blood bath, without a clue of what to do next.