Is Obamacare Enrollment Dropping?

The Obama administration stopped releasing monthly enrollment reports for Obamacare in May, and won't say if or when those reports will start up again. So what's happening during this interim between sign-up periods?
Enrollment numbers are falling for one insurer, reports Jed Graham of Investor's Business Daily:
ObamaCare exchange statistics should clear up any doubt as to why the Obama Administration has been tight-lipped about enrollment since celebrating 8 million sign-ups in mid-April.
Reality, evidence suggests, could require quite a come-down from those lofty claims.
The nation's third-largest health insurer had 720,000 people sign up for exchange coverage as of May 20, a spokesman confirmed to IBD. At the end of June, it had fewer than 600,000 paying customers. Aetna expects that to fall to "just over 500,000" by the end of the year.
That would leave Aetna's paid enrollment down as much as 30% from that May sign-up tally.
"I think we will see some attrition … We're already seeing it. And we expect that to continue through the end of the year," CEO Mark Bertolini said in a July 29 conference call.
Aetna is, of course, only one insurer, and other insurers may not be experiencing a similar decline. Since the launch of Obamacare's exchanges last year, CEO Bertolini has been more bluntly critical of the law than other insurance execs, talking back in October about the pre-launch problems with the exchanges, and then saying early this year that the company will definitely lose money on Obamacare plans in 2014 and could end up leaving the exchange-driven insurance market entirely. Obamacare plans are only expected to make up about 3 percent of the company's revenue this year, so if things go south, Aetna has less to lose than some of its competitors.
Even still, this is a rare early indication of the direction enrollment has gone in the months following open enrollment. A Pro Publica report last month noted that activity—sign-ups, cancellations, and other changes in enrollment status—remained significantly higher than expected in the federal exchange system, but the administration wouldn't say how many represented new enrollments. According to an anonymous insurance industry official, less than half were new enrollments.
As Graham notes in the IBD report, enrollments in Washington state, which reports separately from the federal government, have shrunk from 164,062 at the end of April to 156,155 in June.
Combine the reports, then, and it seems at least plausible, though not at all certain, that actual enrollment in Obamacare has fallen in recent months.
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Maybe we should jsut roll with it?
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Is this declining enrollment the result of people saying, "Wait- you mean I have to write this check every month forever? Fuck that."?
No, it's the result of more people becoming racist teabaggerz! Kochtopus!
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The average American household without insurance either was likely to not have the disposable income to spare (even net of subsidies), or was offered a bad deal for insurance under the ACA.
As word leaks out that the tax penalty is not going to be collected, exchange desertion will probably accelerate.
So what makes you think penaltax isn't going to be collected?
The IRS guidelines say that if you assert hardship, you don't have to pay it.
I think what will likely happen is that the IRS will allow everyone to claim hardship and will not collect the penaltax, but will log all that data, wait until the theoretical interest and penalties are insurmountable, and then retroactively deny the hardship claim for class enemies of the Democrat administration of 20XX.
How does the IRS know if you are insured anyway?
I assume it's a new entry on the tax form.
from the IRS
25. Will I have to do something on my federal income tax return to show that I had coverage or an exemption?
The individual shared responsibility provision goes into effect in 2014. You will not have to account for coverage or exemptions or to make any payments until you file your 2014 federal income tax return in 2015. Information will be made available later about how the income tax return will take account of coverage and exemptions. Insurers will be required to provide everyone that they cover each year with information that will help them demonstrate they had coverage beginning with the 2015 tax year
IOWs, like every other part of this disaster, they haven't figured it out yet.
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Orwell's Ghost weeps in shame at not having come up with this one.
Go on...
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So what makes you think penaltax isn't going to be collected?
News stories about wages garnished by the IRS for the benefit of evul insurance kkkompanies.
The ACA is becoming a big bag of nothing even faster than I predicted. Of course, Mr. ALWAYS WRONG (John) was whooping "DOOM DOOM AND DOOM" like a 5 yr old last winter while I was saying it would not become a measurable issue in the November elections.
I was saying it would not become a measurable issue in the November elections.
You took a pretty safe bet, that the Obama administration would come up with some even bigger fuckups by election day.
I don't believe this comment is accurate.
Landrieu (sp?) was a toss-up in your state two years ago and is still a toss-up. The ACA is not a factor in the vote differential.
I love it. The ACA wasn't a horrendous policy after all, just a colossally expensive failure. With friends like you cheerleading them on...
http://www.businessweek.com/ar.....gn_id=yhoo
Dire Obamacare Prediction Falls Hilariously Flat
From your link, turd:
"The story of Obamacare over the last year has in many ways been a story about how the various claims made by conservatives about why the law would collapse have systematically fallen apart as the Affordable Care Act has gone into effect."
What they mean is that "as O-care has been eviscerated to avoid it falling apart".
Anybody who thinks ObamaCare has gone into effect is fucking idiot, and everything else they say on the topic can be safely disregarded.
That is all. Carry on.
What the hell do you know about health care or health insurance? Who are you to question PB?
The Obama administration stopped releasing monthly enrollment reports for Obamacare in May, and won't say if or when those reports will start up again.
They realize that cynics are just going to question the accuracy and truthfulness of their information so they are going to let you independently research the topic on your own. This leads to greater transparency in government when you know the government isn't lying to you about the program.
The hypothesis that the newly insured are getting the care they delayed or weren't getting before--and then dropping out of the market entirely--is supported by what the insurers are saying:
"Some insurers, including Cigna Corp. CI +0.76% , said they spent a bigger share of the premiums they collected in the second quarter on medical expenses than last year. The "medical loss ratio" is rising in part because enrollees under the health law?many of whom may previously have been uninsured?are seeking health services like surgeries at higher rates. MLR is a key metric of insurers' financial success.
Cigna CEO David M. Cordani said in an interview last week that based on their current enrollment, the public exchanges are "not a sustainable model."
http://online.wsj.com/articles.....rss_Health
Yeah, people got lots of care and the providers' margins improved with more business; meanwhile, the insurers are getting squeezed--and people are dropping out of the insurance market entirely?
Not only was this foreseeable, it was also foreseen!
so they are paying a premium, getting their care, and dropping coverage. it's the inverse of the free-rider problem that ACA was supposed to solve.
Everything I'm reading seems to be consistent with that.
You're never going to get an executive in a highly regulated industry that's under the thumb of a vindictive jackass like Barack Obama to spell it all out in the media, for the same reason that you'll never see an executive hit himself in the head with a shovel on TV--they're not stupid.
...but everything I've read is consistent with the suggestion that a disproportionate number of the newly insured are signing up, consuming healthcare, and dropping out.
So what? You think signing up for insurance temporarily to get a state-required card or to file a claim is new?
Palin's Buttplug|8.12.14 @ 11:13AM|#
"So what? You think signing up for insurance temporarily to get a state-required card or to file a claim is new?"
Shove those goal posts, turd!
Did you RTFA at all?
What do you think this article is about?
Or are you just getting all huffy now because I called Obama a jackass?
It would be logical there would be some pent-up demand for procedures. But overall, a tiny fraction of Cigna's enrolled are due to the ACA. Don't fret about them, Ken. They are more profitable than ever (without looking) if they are like the others.
Yeah,, turd, when the gov't promises to cover your losses, it's hard to lose money.
Cigna has a profit margin of 6%
It's at an 11 p/e.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=CI+Key+Statistics
What "others" are you talking about?
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If a company's stock with problems on the horizon hasn't gone completely bust yet, do you imagine that means fed policy isn't having any effect on the stock market?
You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you.
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'Oh, look over there! A meaningless statistic! I'm right!'
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It really is all about team blue with him, isn't it.
No no, he's a libertarian purist, whatever are you talking about?
How is it bad news for the GOP if people get jobs, pay taxes, and go off the dole? You know, things that are less likely to make them support Dems?
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So this is the economic coup d'grace right? If people leave, it's toast. Insurance death-spiral and political failure.
Not right away. First we have to get through the insurance company bail-out stage, where premiums are suppressed by federal shortfall funding.