Ukraine: Obama Pressures Putin, War Is De-escalating But Not Over


President Barack Obama is building pressure on Russia's Vladimir Putin to back down on Ukraine, where the war has lately taken a surprising turn against the Russian-backed separatists. At the same time, NATO's chief says that Russia is still actively trying to destabilize its neighbor.
Obama is teaming up with France's Francois Hollande. They're "pressing for a meeting 'as quickly as possible' to negotiate a bilateral ceasefire in Ukraine," The Telegraph reported yesterday. "Hollande's office said in a statement that the two leaders spoke by phone on Monday and called on … Putin to press separatists to accept dialogue with Ukrainian authorities."
Whether or not Obama is having any impact on the situation, the war for eastern Ukraine does appear to be de-escalating on some fronts. One of the separatists' top commanders last week predicted that his "best fighters will be bled dry … crushed, and destroyed" within a month. Indeed, the Kiev government has made unexpected gains, this weekend driving the pro-Russian militias out of their stronghold in the city of Sloviansk.
Still, it's anticipated that there will very soon be a battle in the eastern cities of Donetsk and Luhansk where the separatists have regrouped. And, as the Wall Street Journal notes, "some 3.5 million Ukrainian citizens still remain under the control of well-armed insurgents holding [these] major urban centers."
Putin has been quiet about the situation, and Russian state media has tempered some of its anti-Ukrainian propaganda, leading some to believe the Kremlin leader is ready to resolve the fight.
However, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who spoke with Obama yesterday and is pushing for NATO's European members to expand their military defense capabilities, warns, "Whenever the international community puts more pressure on Russia, they take some tactical steps that will defuse the international response, then after a while, they continue covert activities to destabilize the situation." He believes it's "pure tactics" on Putin's part to avoid further sanctions.
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Obama is teaming up with France's Francois Hollande. They're "pressing for a meeting 'as quickly as possible' to negotiate a bilateral ceasefire in Ukraine,"
IOW, they are trying to lock in Russia's gains before its too late.
I cannot see a picture of Putin with Obama anymore without reflexively thinking of Putin quietly saying, "I must break you...."
And he could. Cause - Putin.
No, cuz Obama.
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noyce!
Anyone ever hear from Groovus Maximus? I miss that guy. Pretty troubling that he just disappeared the way he did.
Yeah, seconded. Hope the old Doc's aight.
Thirded.
I have never seen any explanation of how Putin could rule the Ukraine even if he wanted to or how this doesn't end with either him retreating in humiliation or getting bogged down in a protracted civil war Ukraine.
A civil war would be terrible for Ukraine and a tragedy. But I can't see how it could ever lead to anything good for Putin much less this being some kind of Munich moment setting up Putin to dominate Europe.
IMHO, there's never been a long term plan on Putin's part. He's acknowledged for years that he wanted Crimea - and will likely hold onto that - but I think he saw a window of opportunity during the instability of the pro-western revolution and just went for it.
What is widely overlooked or misunderstood is the strategic importance of the Crimea to Russia. It is their only warm water port and they will die before they give it up. It was hopelessly naive for anyone to think they would not take it back.
I assume that the fighting going on now is just Putin making sure that his port can't be taken away or denied to him easily.
That is true. And Russia has owned that port for most of the last 150 years. I really don't see why them taking it back necessarily creates an international crisis. It sucks for the Ukraine sure. But that is a regional problem not a full blown international one.
I forgot to add that you are correct. Ukraine would be a quagmire for Putin. I doubt he wants that.
I was just looking at the area on google earth and see that the fighting is taking place in the best access areas and buffer zone for Russia to the Crimea.
It does suck for Ukraine, but in the end Putin will have what he wants.
I suspect Putin's plan (which very nearly worked) was to destabilize the Ukraine, and then appoint the next (only nominally independent) government. He'd run it by proxy, without the mess and fuss of occupation and intervention.
Then, he'd enter into some "mutual defense treaty" with his pet Ukrainian government, fiddle with the various gas deals to rob Ukraine blind, that kind of thing.
Putin is jsut cool like that cause he dont put up with no BS.
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