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A.M. Links: Snowden Reportedly in Plea Talks, Bergdahl Fallout Keeps Growing, Friendly Fire Kills Five in Afghanistan

Damon Root | 6.10.2014 9:00 AM

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    Edward Snowden is reportedly in talks with U.S. officials over a possible deal that would allow him to return to the United States.

  • The fallout from the controversial Bergdahl prisoner swap continues to grow this week as lawmakers from both sides of the aisle sharply criticize the White House for failing to brief Congress on its plan to trade five Taliban fighters held at Guantanamo for captured Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.
  • Five U.S. troops were killed on Monday in a friendly fire incident in Afghanistan.
  • Insurgents have taken control of key areas of the city of Mosul in northern Iraq.
  • Hillary Clinton's new memoir Hard Choices hits the shelves today. Critics have described the book as a "low-salt, low-fat, low-calorie offering" and a "newsless snore."
  • "During the Obama administration, according to the Pentagon, police departments have received tens of thousands of machine guns; nearly 200,000 ammunition magazines; thousands of pieces of camouflage and night-vision equipment; and hundreds of silencers, armored cars and aircraft."

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Edward Snowden is reportedly in talks with U.S. officials over a possible deal that would allow him to return to the United States.

    It's. A. Trap.

    1. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      I thought the talks broke down when he noticed Eric Holder had his fingers crossed.

      1. Rich   11 years ago

        They'll certainly break down when Holder's impeachment starts in earnest.

        1. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

          Any chance of that actually happening? Seriously. The man has skirted the law for F&F, the IRS scandal and now the immigrant dumping a federal judge called him out on. Not only that, but he has been held in contempt of congress, willingly and knowingly lied under oath, refused to comply with court orders, etc etc etc.

          If they haven't impeached that piece of shit by now, there's no way they do it before the midterms. And once those are done, the GOP will be more concerned with not being labeled racists for 2016.

          Holder is not going anywhere.

          1. Rich   11 years ago

            You're probably correct, sloopy.

            Still, if the "articles" get out into the face of the public it'll be one more nail in the Dems' congressional coffin.

          2. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

            You forgot the fake Black Panther voter intimidation scandal in Philly.

            You know - the one where no actual voters were intimidated.

            1. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

              No I didn't, prick. I never considered that a scandal.

              But I did leave out his abysmal handling of the VA, his refusal to rule on the Keystone pipeline, his shady handling of the Benghazi investigation IRT what we were doing at the "annex", and a few others.

            2. Marshall Gill   11 years ago

              You know - the one where no actual voters were intimidated.

              Is this the same district where the Glorious Leader received 100% of the vote?

              It really is so pathetic that after over 100 years of trying to create the New Soviet Man the shrieking imbecile is the best that can be produced.

              1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

                It really is so pathetic that after over 100 years of trying to create the New Soviet Man the shrieking imbecile is the best that can be produced.

                Soviet Australopithocene?

              2. Weigel's Cock Ring   11 years ago

                The imbecile isn't the only thing that's shrinking, if you catch my drift.

          3. Rasilio   11 years ago

            Unfortunately not.

            Thanks to the idiotic Republicans desire to extract revenge for Iran Contra by Impeaching Clinton over a blow job (yes I know he was actually being impeached for lying under oath and obstruction of Justice but there was never anything big enough there to justify impeachment hearings) there won't be an impeachment of any high profile executive office official for the next 40 years at least. Any attempt to do so will be just written off by the American Public as partisan gamesmanship regardless of how dire the officials offenses were.

            1. Rhywun   11 years ago

              Clinton was like 20 years ago, and the shine has worn off The One. I think the time is ripe.

            2. Emmerson Biggins   11 years ago

              I'm more inclined to blame the guys right now who wouldn't vote to impeach no matter what.

        2. Chinny Chin Chin   11 years ago

          No chance he gets impeached. Republicans remember that going after Clinton did them no favors with anyone but the party faithful. Dems loves them some Nixon nostalgia, but won't go after a Donkey, and don't want to give Elephants any excuses for more impeaching.

          It suits those in power to leave impeachment as a dust-covered tool on the back of the shelf. Too bad: I think Top Men should live in daily fear of impeachment.

    2. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Hello.

      http://digg.com/video/norwegia.....ion-arrest

      Norwegians.

      /narrows gaze.

      On a side note, would American cops react the same way?

      1. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

        I AM FROM LOFTEREN FOR FUCK'S SAKE AND YOU ARE A FUCKING JELLY

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

        The drunk sounds like he's possessed by Beelzebub

    3. Brett L   11 years ago

      My first demand would be that it take place in February of 2017.

      1. BigT   11 years ago

        Get a Presidential pardon on tape and broadcast to the world.

        1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

          You mean like so many campaign promises were broadcast to the world?

        2. Brett L   11 years ago

          "But we got a pardon from the President! It was on the radio!"

          "We don't have a radio."

    4. thom   11 years ago

      It's. A. Trap.

      Let's hope he has some real dirt on some "high ranking officials".

  2. Karl Hungus   11 years ago

    Justina Pelletier, kidnap victim, makes tearful plea to judge, asking to go home:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....o-go-home/

    "'All I really want is to be with my family and friends,' the girl says, her voice faltering at times. 'You can do it. You're the one that's judging this. Please let me go home.'"

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Oh man, been following this story.

      Massachusetts and DCF have been pure evil in this case.

      What the fuck? Let her go home already you assholes.

      1. Ted S.   11 years ago

        If she said she wanted an abortion, they'd have no problem with that choice.

      2. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        There are allegations the judge is corrupt. This same judge refused to let her go the first time without giving a substantial reason.

        I have a liberal friend from MA who won't even admit this is a story as he believes we're not getting the 'full story' but the Howie Carr Show has done a great job following it.

        According to her family, her health has deteriorated under government care. This story is creepy to say the least.

        And all under Deval Patrick's eye - a man some think can run in 2016.

        1. Ted S.   11 years ago

          I miss David Brudnoy. I can't believe this December will be the 10th anniversary of his death. He was great in following the Amirault story and the evil of Scott Harshbarger and Martha Coakley.

          1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

            Coakley is the one who had a hand in putting a mother, son and daughter who owned a day care in prison for a crime they didn't commit? I believe she even had a chance to release them but refused as they languished for 20 years in prison. The mother died in prison.

            EVIL beyond words.

            That's one cunt I wish nothing but ill upon.

            1. Ted S.   11 years ago

              I think Violet Amirault only died after getting out of prison (and you're a bit on the high side on the numbers), but yes, she and Harshbarger basically brainwashed a bunch of children into believing they had been molested, in order that they could advance their political careers.

              This, even after similar cases like the McMartins were thoroughly debunked.

              1. Root Boy   11 years ago

                Didn't Janet Reno do about the same thing in FL?

                I know the Amirault case was the biggest and worst, but those shit cases with kids seemed to be all over in the 80s/90s.

      3. BakedPenguin   11 years ago

        Massachusetts and DCF have been pure evil in this case.

        Very true. I can't imagine the mentality of someone who would keep torturing a little girl just because they fear losing face.

      4. Karl Hungus   11 years ago

        Massachusetts and DCF have been pure evil in this case.

        Sickening to realize that all it takes is one old man in a black nightgown with a seafood mallet who thinks you're being defiant, and your child can be kidnapped.

        1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

          According to the people helping the Pelletier's, 'defiance' here is the father merely asking questions.

          And so what if he raised his voice? After what the government put them through?

          They're lucky it wasn't worse.

          I can't imagine watching my daughter whither like this because of bureaucrats.

          Remember kids. It's all for the children.

          Judge Joseph Johnston is just part of the cycle of evil.

        2. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

          Remember, when Miss Lispy McGee prattles on about "collective responsibility" for raising children, THIS IS WHAT SHE MEANS!

          1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

            I was thinking about her and that exact same thing too!

            Melissa. Ooof.

      5. Rasilio   11 years ago

        Forget DCF, someone needs to do something about the tin gods at Boston Childrens Hospital. This is not the first case of those fucks trampling all over a family by calling in DCF to guarantee them a nice lucrative patient.

    2. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      She needs to apply to become an emancipated minor. Then she needs to walk into the courthouse and confront the miserable cocksucker that's forcibly kept her from her parents.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        Miserable cocksuckerS.

        Sounds as though there are many people involved in fucking this kid over.

    3. Jordan   11 years ago

      I hope they sue the holy hell out of every fucker involved in this.

    4. Florida Man   11 years ago

      Does this family not own rifles? Oh wait, Massachusetts, never mind.

      1. Brett L   11 years ago

        I wonder if another state could refuse extradition.

        1. Florida Man   11 years ago

          All I know is don't take them to Cuba. Whatever happened to that poor family?

      2. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        I think they're not even from there.

        Tell you what, if I was told to go to Massachusetts for care for whatever reasons, this case will remain in the back of my head. I've dealt enough with bureaucratic bull shit in health up here.

        1. Brett L   11 years ago

          "Nooope."

        2. Florida Man   11 years ago

          Does Canada send its citizens to Massachusetts for care?

          1. Brett L   11 years ago

            Even socialized medicine isn't that monstrous.

          2. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

            It all depends on whether we can handle whatever ails a person. I'm sure we have but I don't know that stats.

            1. Florida Man   11 years ago

              Hmm. I assumed you had to stay in Canada for the gubmint healthcare.

              1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

                Nope. If you suffer from an ailment the system can't handle, the province can pay for care elsewhere. Medical tourism does okay here.

    5. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      I'm not exaggerating here when I say that there would be a trail of dead bodies if they did this to one of my kids.

      A. Trail. Of. Dead. Bodies.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        The thing I never understood is why would the state want to even deal with this now? The family wants her back and all they're doing is putting black attention on them. It's so pointless it's beyond rational.

        1. Florida Man   11 years ago

          Black attention!?!!??!! Racist!

          1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

            'Carbon attention' doesn't have the same ring.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

          Authority shall be respected or it's no longer authority.

        3. tarran   11 years ago

          I can answer: RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!

          These are the same guys that are judging the custody battle I am having with my ex wife. We have a very good judge, who is pretty fair and evidence driven. That's pretty much the only good thing I have encountered about the system.

          The biggest problem is that great weight is given to the judgement of DCF investigators, social workers and child psychologists, a surprising percentage of whom are utterly unworthy of such trust because they have chosen their professions as a way of coping with some child hood trauma or mental health issue and who are thus not only not objective but prone to impose their narrative onto the weird situations they confront.

          1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

            a surprising percentage of whom are utterly unworthy of such trust because they have chosen their professions as a way of coping with some child hood trauma or mental health issue

            It's a different field, I know, but of the 5 nutrition majors I have known well enough to learn about their past, all 5 dealt with eating disorders as teenagers (or continuing even later).

          2. MJGreen   11 years ago

            Over the past couple years, my (immediate) family has learned that one of my cousins has serious mental issues and did a whole bunch of things growing up that we never heard about until now. She called the cops on her parents, claiming my uncle was abusing her, she ran away a few times, etc.

            Today she's a respected psychologist who specializes in treating teenagers. Apparently she's done good work on suicide hotlines, which is great to hear, but I'd seriously worry about her judgment if she worked a case like this.

    6. MJGreen   11 years ago

      In March, Johnston issued a four-page ruling blasting Pelletier's parents for being verbally abusive and complicating efforts to bring the family together.

      "Your lack of respect and deference to the people who have taken your child away from you is really complicating this process. How can we return your daughter if you won't kiss the ring?"

  3. Longtorso, Johnny   11 years ago

    A little something for the earlier immigration article:

    Turning immigration into a tool of social engineering
    ...In recent months there have been many interesting revelations about New Labour's immigration policy, but in keeping with our era of dumbed-down political debate the revelations have either been downplayed or have been used to fuel conspiracy theories.

    At the end of last year, a former government adviser revealed that ministers frequently discussed 'open[ing] up the UK to mass migration'. But their aims were as much political and social as they were economic. Indeed there was a 'driving political purpose': ministers' belief that bringing in more immigrants would make manifest their ideal of a 'truly multicultural society' and allow them to 'rub the right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date' ....

    1. Swiss Servator, CH yeah!   11 years ago

      Don't let Shikha Dalmia see this, you nativist pig!

    2. Jordan   11 years ago

      What other rights should we hold hostage because somebody's motive for supporting them might not be pure?

      1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

        This

      2. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        When the change would result in other rights getting less respect from the government, which is the lesser evil?

        1. Jordan   11 years ago

          Such as?

          1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

            When socialists seek to mass import pvotes to maintain their grip on power, what rights do you think will be left unimpaired?

            1. Jordan   11 years ago

              Allowing people to immigrate is not importing votes. Should we bar socialists from having children as well?

              1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

                They seem to do that to themselves just fine. Keeping them from taking over schools should be sufficient.

          2. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

            Right. If we wanted to take that approach generally we could say 'well, given our welfare state we can't support drug legalization, because we'd be paying for addict's treatment' or 'given crony capitalism we can't support businesses spending on campaign speech'
            But no, it's only on this issue dear to conservative's hearts that we see some libertarians deviating from the NAP

            1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

              Do we need to go over that whole part about "I'm not a libertarian" again, Bo? Or do you really lack congitive function as you've repeatedly demonstrated?

              1. Restoras   11 years ago

                Dare is suggest that we need...an Arbiter?

              2. Fluffy   11 years ago

                Fuck you American

              3. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                You're not a libertarian, obvious and goody for you, but this a libertarian site so please don't whine if people refer to libertarian principles in trying to judge if your liberty restricting proposals are persuasive

                1. wareagle   11 years ago

                  do libertarian principles regularly support infringing on the rights of others? I suspect more than one Englishman could cite a couple of things that have been substantially effect by Labour's multi-culti dream.

                  1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                    The act of immigration itself does not war eagle.

                    1. wareagle   11 years ago

                      the act of immigration leads to a host of consequences, bo, not all of them beneficial to the natives. Something something foreseeable consequences something, as another poster likes to say.

                    2. Jordan   11 years ago

                      the act of immigration leads to a host of consequences, bo, not all of them beneficial to the natives. Something something foreseeable consequences something, as another poster likes to say.

                      So does gun ownership.

                    3. wareagle   11 years ago

                      So does gun ownership

                      there are restrictions on that, too.

                    4. Jordan   11 years ago

                      there are restrictions on that, too.

                      And you're okay with that? We should support restrictions on one right because there are restrictions on other rights?

                    5. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Jordan, they're rationalizing the abandonment of principle because of their overriding fear of a momentary advantage for profs and Democrats, it isn't going to make sense

                2. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

                  You've already shown you're unwilling to be persuaded of anything, so I'm just pushing trigger buttons on your Psyche, Bo. It's easy to make you dance and shout.

                  1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                    Pushing my buttons? Friend, your invaluable to me. I've always argued these positions are pushed by conservatives posing as libertarians here and outed non libertarians such as yourself making the exact same arguments helps me out.

                    1. Virginian   11 years ago

                      outed non libertarians such as yourself making the exact same arguments helps me out.

                      Bo Cara: the Snocone Hunter. No SnoCone is safe from....BO CARA.

                      *montage*

                    2. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      I know you're happy in your simple, borrowed narrative, but I don't consider anti immigration rights conservatives to necessarily be social conservatives, not at all.

                    3. Virginian   11 years ago

                      I know you're happy in your simple, borrowed narrative

                      That's funny coming from a guy who does nothing but accuse various other posters of being insufficiently libertarian.

                    4. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      I love how you stick to your simple borrowed narrative all the while ignoring that another poster thought the comments were so non libertarian that the commenter was American.

                    5. Virginian   11 years ago

                      another poster thought the comments were so non libertarian that the commenter was American.

                      Wait, do you have a Robin now in your neverending war on the insufficiently libertarian?

                    6. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      You should totally start the 'fluffy is an arbiter' narrative Virginian.

                      Look, even those libertarians that oppose immigration rights usually say this: 'I guess technically stopping someone from moving from here to there is a NAP violation, but we have to break the rule to save it in other places.' So the move starts with a break from libertarian principles. Now maybe on utilitarian grounds that move can be justified, but for someone to note that it starts with that break is not 'being an Arbiter' anymore than someone objecting to keeping drugs illegal to avoid welfare for addicts or restricting campaign finance to restrict cronyism is 'being an Arbiter,'

                    7. Virginian   11 years ago

                      So do you have a symbol or a uniform or something? How does Bo Cara: Libertarian Inquisitor distinguish himself from all the lumpenproles who can't see the Truth?

                    8. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      You could have saved everyone time by initially saying 'I really don't have any substantive arguments here, just wanted to try out the schtick I've seen Restoras used ever since Bo got him to say that majorities should be able to use coercion to restrict transactions between consenting adults.'

                    9. Virginian   11 years ago

                      You could have saved everyone time by initially saying 'I really don't have any substantive arguments here, just wanted to try out the schtick I've seen Restoras used ever since Bo got him to say that majorities should be able to use coercion to restrict transactions between consenting adults.'

                      Do you have a little notebook next to your computer where you keep the names of the impure?

                    10. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

                      outed non libertarians such as yourself making the exact same arguments helps me out.

                      Call the secret service and see if they'll loan you a sarcasm detector, because if you think anything posted in an online forum is the whole and complete truth and not just fucking with other people, you're delusional.

            2. robc   11 years ago

              it's only on this issue dear to conservative's hearts that we see some libertarians deviating from the NAP

              Bo is absolutely right on this issue, then he goes and says idiotic things like this.

              1. robc   11 years ago

                Does Bo think Tony is a libertarian because he posts here?

                1. KDN   11 years ago

                  Tony and PB make a lot of good points despite their deviation from libertarian orthodoxy, but the rest of you gliberati are just SoConz in disguise and unworthy of proper consideration.

                2. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                  Tony is clearly not one.
                  Oh no, am an Arbiter for saying that?

  4. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    The fallout from the controversial Bergdahl prisoner swap continues to grow this week...

    "Hey, remember how we screwed over the veterans at the VA? Let's talk about that again."

    1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

      The last conversation I heard about this in public was blaming Republicans. Sometimes I really hate Massachusetts.

      1. MJGreen   11 years ago

        They've never properly funded the VA. That's the whole problem!

        1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

          That was one of the exact "criticisms", yes.

  5. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

    Hard Choices would be a great name for an erotic memoir

    1. Timrekgrun   11 years ago

      Hillary stole the title from her husband. Though it originally had the subtitle - The Blue Dress Diaries.

      1. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

        Fifty Shades of Semen

        1. RBS   11 years ago

          Where is Teenage Girl when you need her?

          1. Tonio   11 years ago

            Registration pretty much killed her.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

          Close But No Cigar

      2. Rich   11 years ago

        Thrusts and Issues

    2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      That's more a short adult story from the woman's perspective in a devil's threeway.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Critics have described the book as a "low-salt, low-fat, low-calorie offering" and a "newsless snore."

    Nothing in it makes a difference at this point.

    1. Timrekgrun   11 years ago

      "low-salt, low-fat, low-calorie offering" - pretty much the opposite of what Bill offered up.

    2. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      Critics have described the book as a "low-salt, low-fat, low-calorie offering" and a "newsless snore."

      Why would Hillary Clinton write a book about Michelle Obama's school lunch program?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        To remind you that there are other first ladies out there almost as terrible.

  7. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    "THE TUAM TANK: ANOTHER MYTH ABOUT EVIL IRELAND

    "The obsession with Ireland's dark past has officially become unhinged.

    "For proof of the maxim that 'A lie will go round the world while truth is pulling its boots on', look no further than the Tuam 800 dead babies story. Courtesy of a modern media that seems more interested in titillating readers with gorno than giving us cool facts, and thanks to a Twittermob constantly on the hunt for things it might feel ostentatiously outraged by, the story about babies being dumped in an old, out-of-use septic tank by nuns at a home for 'fallen women' in Tuam in Galway made waves in every corner of the globe. Then, a few days later, having finally strapped its boots on, the truth - or at least a more sober analysis of what might have really happened in Tuam - staggered on to the stage. And it was a very different story to the fact-lite, fury-heavy tale that had already gone round the world....

    "On almost every level, the news reports in respectable media outlets around the world were plain wrong. Most importantly, the constantly repeated line about the bodies of 800 babies having been found was pure mythmaking."

    http://www.spiked-online.com/n.....5cB-PldVW_

    1. Brett L   11 years ago

      But Bo was so excited about it!

    2. Restoras   11 years ago

      How dare you challenge a meme with objectivity!

    3. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

      "Mr Quinn said many of those in the mother and baby homes were put there by their parents "because the social conservatism of Ireland at the time was such that [pregnancy out of wedlock] brought dishonour on the family and was in total conflict with the teachings of the Catholic Church"."

      http://www.irishtimes.com/news.....-1.1825782

      1. Ivan Pike   11 years ago

        brought dishonour on the family

        Dishonor

        1. Restoras   11 years ago

          Are Honor Killings among Catholics more or less abhorrent than those among Mooselimbs? Discuss. Show your work.

      2. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

        "The Minister said the facts about the homes should be brought together in a "coherent" form, as some of the headlines printed internationally were "quite horrendous and gave a very mistaken impression of what actually happened".

        ""I have read much of the stuff over the weekend that is now in the public domain and it is quite different to what in fact the banner headlines were suggesting when this story first broke," he said."

        1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

          Bo Cara Esq.|6.6.14 @ 9:02AM|#

          Catholic, Pro-Life Utopia?

          "[quoting the Washington Post] More than five decades after the Home was closed and destroyed ? where a housing development and children's playground now stands ? what happened to nearly 800 of those abandoned children has now emerged: Their bodies were piled into a massive septic tank sitting in the back of the structure and forgotten, with neither gravestones nor coffins."

          1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

            (I meant to put ellipses before the quote from the WaPo)

            1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

              Ok, all those babies died and were put in unmarked, sometimes mass graves, just near the septic tank. Is that supposed to make this a no story? My point was Quinn's, that a social conservatism that criminalizes reproductive choice and stigmatizes out if wedlock births gets you something like this: young, pregnant women in government supported charity homes in miserable conditions

              1. Ivan Pike   11 years ago

                and stigmatizes

                What's wrong with stigmatizing someone? You are not violating the NAP.

                1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                  The NAP is a baseline for judging acts of government, not an encapsulation of all morality. A town which makes interracial dating a crime violates the NAP, a town which does not but stigmatizes it does not, but they are a bunch if immoral jerks.

                  The stigmatization made it so that these women were less likely to be able to take care of themselves or get support from their families so they had to turn to these Church homes which got a per capita amount from the government.

                  1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

                    Don't forget the 800 babies in the septic tank.

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Ok Eddie, just near the tank. Wow, that solves everything!

                  2. Red Rocks Rockin   11 years ago

                    so they had to turn to these Church homes which got a per capita amount from the government.

                    Right--now they just get the subsidies directly from the government and cut out the middleman.

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Something about two wrongs...

                    2. Red Rocks Rockin   11 years ago

                      Something about two wrongs...

                      ...doesn't really apply here.

                    3. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Really? So direct welfare payments you oppose but welfare payments to third parties you're ok with? Because I oppose both.

                  3. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

                    The NAP is a baseline for judging acts of government, not an encapsulation of all morality.

                    Another ex cathedra proclamation from Bo Cara! All must give their assent, for ipse dixit!

                    Bo has come, Bo has risen, Bo shall come again!

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Going lord, are you a child? You've never heard a discussion among libertarians as to whether the NAP answers all moral questions or just political ones?

                    2. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

                      You've never heard a discussion among libertarians as to whether the NAP answers all moral questions or just political ones?

                      That's the point. Instead of acknowledging such a debate exists, you just made a proclamation and expected no one to call you on its validity.

                      Of course, being able to conceptualize the inner mental lives of other people is always a problem for folks "on the spectrum", like you, isn't it?

                    3. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      I'm taking one side in that argument, and arguing that side is the better one. This upsets you, why?

                    4. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

                      Because you are presenting your argument disingenuously.

                    5. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      How so? There are people that think the NAP is all there is to morality and people who say it is not. I think the second and I said so. What, was I supposed to say something about the view I think is wrong or else I'm disengenous?

                  4. Virginian   11 years ago

                    a town which does not but stigmatizes it does not, but they are a bunch if immoral jerks.

                    Free speech is now immorality, so sayeth the Botard.

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      So you think there can be nothing wrong with racist speech, huh? I mean, the only moral question with any speech is whether the person has a right to say it?
                      Sheesh

                    2. Virginian   11 years ago

                      So you think there can be nothing wrong with racist speech, huh?

                      Aggression is wrong. Speech is not aggression, therefore speech is not wrong. It may be rude or false or offensive, but it is not morally wrong.

                    3. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      If you think racist speech and views are morally ok we'll just have to agree to disagree

                    4. Virginian   11 years ago

                      If you think racist speech and views are morally ok we'll just have to agree to disagree

                      Translation: I have jack shit for an argument, so I'm running like a bitch.

                    5. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      I'm not running, I just don't see the worth in trying to convince someone that thinks racist views are ok that they are not.

                    6. Virginian   11 years ago

                      someone that thinks racist views are ok that they are not.

                      Well when you find that someone, you can argue with him.

                      I said this:

                      Speech is not aggression, therefore speech is not wrong. It may be rude or false or offensive, but it is not morally wrong.

                      Dishonest cunt.

                    7. EDG reppin' LBC   11 years ago

                      ...I just don't see the worth in trying to convince someone that thinks racist views are ok that they are not.

                      Virginian never asserted that racist views were ok. You are arguing disingenuously, again. Tune your reading comprehension skills and come back. In the meantime, you lost this argument so let it go. We still like you, but you have officially gone from worthy opponent to mendacious cunt in this particular instance.

                    8. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      He said they were not morally wrong, no?

                    9. Virginian   11 years ago

                      He said they were not morally wrong, no?

                      He hath not denied that he did comport with the witches, and the Devil.

                    10. Virginian   11 years ago

                      I said this:

                      Speech is not aggression, therefore speech is not wrong. It may be rude or false or offensive, but it is not morally wrong.

                    11. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Right, I said racist speech is not a NAP violation but that it is immoral. You said it is not.

                    12. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Of course, when I spoke of stigmatization I was thinking of actions such as not hiring or contracting with an unwed mother or interracial couple, but I'm guessing you'd say since such is free association it can't be immoral

                    13. Virginian   11 years ago

                      that it is immoral

                      Prove it.

                    14. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      This is where I said we have to agree to disagree if you need me to prove to you that racist views are immoral.

                    15. Virginian   11 years ago

                      Pummel that strawman. God you're such a rhetorical badass. He's just standing there, he has no rebuttal. Straw is flying left and right as Bo shows the scarecrow who's boss.

                    16. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Straw man? Read my 10:38 and your response at 10:40

                      Look, you made the common error of confusing what one had a right to do with whether what one did was right, and now you're running in circles from your own pronouncement

                    17. Virginian   11 years ago

                      lol Bo knows! He always knows.

                    18. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      And you obviously don't, as your inevitable retreat to childish catch phrases demonstrates.

                    19. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      I mean and with an 'lol'? Are you a twelve year old girl?

                    20. Virginian   11 years ago

                      And you obviously don't, as your inevitable retreat to childish catch phrases demonstrates.

                      I know few things. I know what a whining quim looks like.

                      Please, oh so smart boy, demonstrate how speech can be immoral.

                    21. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Because the views are immoral. Interestingly, you seem to be arguing that the views are immoral but not when spoken

                    22. Virginian   11 years ago

                      So let me get this straight. You think that speech can be immoral, yet you've appointed yourself the guardian of True Libertarianism?

                      What kind of True Libertarian believes in immoral speech?

                    23. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Because unlike you I don't confuse my rights with what is morally right.

                      Libertarianism says nothing about whether two timing your wife other than that no one should coerce you either way, but a libertarian can find it morally wrong.

                    24. Virginian   11 years ago

                      Libertarianism says nothing about whether two timing your wife

                      lol you worthless cunt, libertarians are very strongly against breach of contract. It's one of the main fucking points. Try again.

                    25. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      And speaking of whining quims, after all your song and dance you now concede that you did not think racist speech immoral, right?

                  5. Ivan Pike   11 years ago

                    The NAP is a baseline for judging acts of government,

                    I thought it was a baseline for judging the acts of individuals.

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Fair enough, you're right there. But it's still just a baseline, not the end of all moral criteria

                  6. robc   11 years ago

                    Stigmatizing immoral behavior does not make one immoral.

                    The NAP is about more than just government action. Its about human interaction with each other.

                    But, yes, its just a baseline.

                    Im going to apply YOUR (and my) immigration standard. The fact that immigration causes problems with other areas due to NAP violations elsewhere doesnt mean immigration is bad.

                    The fact that stigmatization of unwed mothers causes problems with other areas due to NAP violations elsewhere doent mean stigmatization of unwed mothers is bad.

                    APPLY YOUR OWN FUCKING STANDARD FROM UPTHREAD.

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      It's not the same standard at all.

                      One is about how a violation if the NAP is a necessary but not sufficient cause of something being morally wrong

                      The other is a utilitarian argument, which I reject, that says that there is a NAP right to immigrate but we must violate that right to save other rights

                  7. Marshall Gill   11 years ago

                    The NAP is a baseline for judging acts of government, not an encapsulation of all morality.

                    So now you are outing yourself as not being a Libertarian but a Leftard? I am certain that you tried the "No true scotsman" in this very thread. With regards to immigration, the NAP is written in stone. With regard to other things, it just depends on how you feel?

                    It is as if you did not argue in good faith.

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      No, the NAP is never to be violated. That's what a baseline means Marshal, there may be other things required but no thing can violate it at the least. There's no inconsistency there

              2. wareagle   11 years ago

                stigmatizes out if wedlock births

                so we should champion these as an outcome to strive for?

                1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                  If you are going to stigmatize anything there stigmatize not being able to support yourself and any kids you have. What's wrong with an in married mother and father who take care of their own kid? To me that's better than a married couple that takes my taxes to raise their kids

                  1. Ivan Pike   11 years ago

                    If you are going to stigmatize anything there stigmatize not being able to support yourself and any kids you have

                    You mean, by having them out of wedlock? It does make it harder to support yourself and your kids. I think there may even be studies on this.

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Harder? If it's the not being able to take care of them that's the problem why not stigmatize that rather than something correlated not perfectly with it? Those kind of generalizations strike me as contrary to dealing with people morally as individuals, not groups

                    2. Ivan Pike   11 years ago

                      something correlated not perfectly with it?

                      If we lower something that is correlated to the problem, won't the problem also be lowered? I am not dealing with groups, but individuals who are pregnant out of of wedlock and the impact it will (most likely) have on their and their child's life.

                    3. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Lowering something by opposing something imperfectly correlated with it lowers the first thing in the same way that shooting into a crowd of mostly but not all thugs lowers the number of thugs.

                    4. Ivan Pike   11 years ago

                      Yes, stigmatizing is exactly like shooting into a crowd.

                  2. wareagle   11 years ago

                    What's wrong with an in married mother and father who take care of their own kid?

                    stop channeling Obama by attacking the argument that no one is making. Single-parent birth is often stigmatized because the result is the opposite of the scenario you describe. Why, there are numerous places in America that serve as living laboratories to the social disaster that this practice often leads to.

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      Lots of in married parents support their children and raise them well. Should they be condemned? If you think the stigmatization should be based on whether the parents are married, yes, but if it should be based on support or nonsupport, no. To judge all non married parents because a lot of them don't support their kids is to think like the prog who treats all the members of some class the same because most of them have some characteristic

              3. Don Mynack   11 years ago

                Were the conditions of the charity homes worse than the rest of poverty-stricken Ireland? Were the homes the result of "stigmatizing out of wedlock birth", or simply a desire to keep the mothers and children together and alive in the face of abject poverty?

                1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                  The stigmatization made it less likely the women could get employment or aid from families and friends. As to your other question, it's common for those living off charity during generally hard times to live worse than average

                  1. wareagle   11 years ago

                    that's okay, bo; we've past stigmatization to full out subsidization, if not endorsement, of out of wedlock birth. Happy days indeed.

                    Single mothers need not worry about whether friends or family will help because govt is ever-ready to step into the breech. Something about incentives.

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      I'd agree that subsidizing is an evil itself.

      3. kinnath   11 years ago

        Pecksniff returns

        1. You Know Who Else   11 years ago

          Peck 'n' Sniff

    4. Tonio   11 years ago

      The greater the indignation...

  8. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    "During the Obama administration, according to the Pentagon, police departments have received tens of thousands of machine guns; nearly 200,000 ammunition magazines; thousands of pieces of camouflage and night-vision equipment; and hundreds of silencers, armored cars and aircraft."

    Just wait until the DoD start retiring carrier groups.

    1. Timrekgrun   11 years ago

      Stop resisting and procedures will be followed!!

    2. Swiss Servator, CH yeah!   11 years ago

      "Chicago PD's newest marine patrol unit, the former USS John F. Kennedy (CVN-79), docked at Navy Pier today..."

      1. Brett L   11 years ago

        An important tool in preventing Canadian prescriptions from entering the US.

        1. Swiss Servator, CH yeah!   11 years ago

          An important tool in preventing Canadians prescriptions from entering the US.

          Fixed.

        2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

          Those aren't the kinds of drugs local law enforcement uses military handmedowns for.

  9. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

    Cuckold puts up his ex-wife's wedding dress for sale. If you're interested, it's harlot-sized

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Aren't there harlots of all sizes?

  10. RBS   11 years ago

    Everything is political:

    At this point the Lana segments are just an excuse for Vince to take shots at the Democratic president, aren't they?
    It isn't "I'll give her the old 'evil foreigner who hates America' gimmick" so much as "I'll use her to illustrate what badasses like Putin think of America since we have such a pitiful weakling in the White House instead of a real manly man like Mitt Romney. That's what Fox News has been telling me, after all."

    It's not that I'm a huge fan of everything Obama does or anything; IMO some of his policies are good, while others are far too Bush-like for me to be comfortable with. But as far as jumping on the workout video goes and holding that against him, that's just stupid. Fine Vince, okay, it's not all power-lifting, it's not imagery that makes you go "Holy shit, is that guy ever strong!" But if being ripped were the only thing that mattered in a president then please explain, Vince, why you think that people in worse physical shape than Barack Obama?namely Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush?were such great leaders.

    (As for Putin, he is in fact much less of a badass than he'd like people to think.)

    by Some Dude Somewhere on Jun 9, 2014 | 11:32 PM reply rec flag

    1. Virginian   11 years ago

      why you think that people in worse physical shape than Barack Obama?namely Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush

      I'd say both of them were in better shape then Obama, at least at equivalent ages.

      As for Putin, he is in fact much less of a badass than he'd like people to think.

      He's an ex KGB agent who wrote a judo textbook. Not some lame memoir about his absent daddy. Putin is a badass by an reasonable definition of the word.

      1. Root Boy   11 years ago

        Progs used to wet themselves when they saw pics of Obama body surfing in Hawaii -- now, show them a vid of El Douche working out and have WWE make fun of him with a fake Russian and they act like its the worst thing ever.

      2. Red Rocks Rockin   11 years ago

        Jimmy Kimmel's mock "Putincize" commercial the other night was the perfect take on the whole thing.

        1. BakedPenguin   11 years ago

          I liked this, myself. (SFW)

  11. Longtorso, Johnny   11 years ago

    Another man soon to be let down

    Broadway Joe defends Johnny Football

    I wonder if he really wants to kiss him.

    1. Brett L   11 years ago

      Was heard to mutter, "I still look better in a dress."

    2. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Namath is probably the most overrated player in the history of the NFL.

      1. Brett L   11 years ago

        ...whose last name isn't Manning.

        1. Andrew S.   11 years ago

          Nah, Namath is still more overrated than Eli.

          Though if Eli somehow manages to make the Hall of Fame...

          1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

            Oh, God, Please no.

            I can't believe.

            Not one but two rings.

            1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

              He's doing a decent job making sure that doesn't happen. He's already lead the league in interceptions 3/10 years in his career (I still can't believe 07). If he can just have one more 20+ INT season I'm pretty sure he'll seal his fate.

        2. Red Rocks Rockin   11 years ago

          No, Namath truly is the most overrated player in history. At least Peyton has several years of high-level stats to point to. Eli's rated right about where he should be for an average QB with two Super Bowl rings.

          Namath's in the HoF for two reasons that have very little to do with a career of excellence--the Super Bowl III win (in which he played like shit and the Jets D dominated), and the media hype over his lifestyle. Yet you have guys like Jerry Kramer, Randy Gradishar, and Alex Karras, who actually performed on a high level for several years, were completely snubbed.

      2. KDN   11 years ago

        Meh. Namath has a legitimate argument to having been the best QB in football for a couple of years before injuries caught up with him and managerial incompetence ruined his team. He's a borderline HOFer whose fame put him over the top, and he's viewed as such by everyone I've ever met except inveterate Jet haters.

  12. Rich   11 years ago

    "During the Obama administration, according to the Pentagon, police departments have received tens of thousands of machine guns

    Let me be clear. Weapons of war have no place on the streets of America.

    1. Swiss Servator, CH yeah!   11 years ago

      Good catch!

  13. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    ...lawmakers from both sides of the aisle sharply criticize the White House for failing to brief Congress on its plan to trade five Taliban fighters held at Guantanamo for captured Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

    It's all about you, isn't it, Congress?

    1. widget   11 years ago

      I about to write something less succinct.

      1. widget   11 years ago

        Does anyone know what USG has been doing in Afghanistan for the last decade?

  14. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

    Bergdahl-gate. It's the cover-up, man. So many fake scandals!

    1. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      Serious question for you, PB: do you cup the balls when you suck Obama's dick?

      1. Michael   11 years ago

        Only when Barry pinches his nose shut and goes for the tonsils.

    2. Jordan   11 years ago

      How is breaking the law a fake scandal?

      1. Florida Man   11 years ago

        "It's not illegal when the president does it!"
        /choco Nixon

      2. Ted S.   11 years ago

        It's TEAM BLUE breaking the law. That makes all the difference.

      3. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

        Do yourself a favor and watch Jon Stewart's takedown of all the conservative douchebags breaking their necks changing their positions on Bergdahl-gate.

        http://thedailyshow.cc.com/vid.....he-hate-is

        1. Jordan   11 years ago

          So, if someone breaks the law, it's no big deal if it makes conservatives look hypocritical or something. That's your argument?

          1. BakedPenguin   11 years ago

            Can we please stop treating the sockpuppet like it's people? It tries to get your attention by writing down mendacious bullshit. It lives for your attention. Starve it to death.

        2. wareagle   11 years ago

          because no one in the history of mankind, let alone politics, ever changed his mind on anything.

          No, wait; Obama changed his mind on gay marriage as I recall. And drones. And indefinite detention. And and and.

          1. Root Boy   11 years ago

            He's also changed his mind on Bergdahl a few times. Latest is that Hagel made the final decision, not Obama

            1. Juice   11 years ago

              And then Obama was so furious about it, he held a Rose Garden press conference to reveal the terrible news.

      4. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

        Does the law in question deal with pow swaps in war or negotiating with terrorists? Just curious

        1. Jordan   11 years ago

          Well, this is what the article says. It matches what I've read elsewhere. I haven't bothered to look up the actual law though.

          Members of Congress were not informed about the prisoner swap deal despite U.S. law requiring that the House and Senate be given 30 days' notice before any prisoners are transferred from Guantanamo.

          1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

            Oh, it's a Gitmo specific law. I think if the Congress is really serious about this being a 'war' on terror then those people are POWs and the CiC has the authority to make swaps. Having said that, Potus must answer politically for their decisions and this one was so stupid and incompetent it almost defies belief even among the cynical.

            1. Root Boy   11 years ago

              Yep, to me it's less about the law (Obama has the authority to do this under his war powers as he said in his signing statement on the law --guffaw!) than basically giving up POWs with no conditions or promises from the Taliban to negotiate with the Afghan govt. Read about how pissed they are since they had no input.

    3. Tonio   11 years ago

      Don't feed it, people. Happy Troll-Free Tuesday.

      1. Restoras   11 years ago

        I wish I could say that Shriek is a legitimate troll. It's really more of the village idiot, stumbling around yelling incoherencies at random people and objects, desperate for a response.

      2. Florida Man   11 years ago

        TFT? I thought it was Thursday. My mistake.

  15. Jordan   11 years ago

    Uber CEO Travis Kalanick: "We're in a political campaign, and the candidate is Uber and the opponent is an asshole named Taxi".

    Just when I thought I couldn't like Uber anymore than I already do. This dude's a fucking boss.

    1. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      He's 95% boss. If he loses the stupid pink mustaches then he's totally boss.

      1. Brett L   11 years ago

        I thought that was Lyft, no?

        1. Andrew S.   11 years ago

          Correct.

          1. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

            Oops, my bad.

        2. SugarFree   11 years ago

          Why their motto isn't "Do you even Lyft, bro?" is beyond me.

          1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

            It's so simple but so genius.

  16. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

    Caffeine-infused panties do not destroy cellulite

    http://jezebel.com/shocker-law.....1588255259

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Another kinky sex option for people who like coffee.

      1. lap83   11 years ago

        Why would I waste perfectly good coffee on my nether regions?

        1. Brett L   11 years ago

          Butt-chugging ain't just for vodka!

    2. Rich   11 years ago

      Caffeine-infused panties

      Nice band name.

  17. Timrekgrun   11 years ago

    "Sir, insurgents have taken control of Mosul."

    "How can you be so sure, Major?"

    "We read their giant, "Mission Accomplished" banner."

  18. RBS   11 years ago

    I was just checking the primary ballot here in SC and we have a guy named Joe Farmer running for Commissioner of Agriculture.

    1. entropy_factor   11 years ago

      In Texas, we had a Tom Cotton on the republican ballot for Ag Commissioner. He didn't win/

    2. Brett L   11 years ago

      Charles Bronson was the FL Dept. of Agriculture secretary for a long time.

    3. robc   11 years ago

      Richie Farmer was Ag Commissioner in KY for a while. He is in jail now. He won by being a famous UK basketball player.

      He, at least, was an Ag Major.

  19. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

    Memphis police officer arrested and charged with...

    ...trying to rob a Make-A-Wish family of their gift cards the foundation gave them.

    http://wreg.com/2014/06/08/mem.....sh-family/

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      It's asset forfeiture. They're lucky he didn't shoot their dog.

      Besides, procedures were followed.

    2. Rich   11 years ago

      Probably got the idea from the mayor of Baltimore.

    3. Timrekgrun   11 years ago

      Well in his defense, TN has yet to ban pre-conviction asset forfeiture. He'll get a paid vacation, but procedures were followed.

      1. Ted S.   11 years ago

        I'd like to state categorically that Timrekgrun is not a sockpupppet of me.

        1. BakedPenguin   11 years ago

          We'll believe you for now, but if he starts discussing old movies and upstate NY events...

          1. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

            or whinging about page load times on his Commodore 64

            1. Ska   11 years ago

              LOAD "*",8,1

              PRESS PLAY ON TAPE

              1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

                LOAD ERROR

                *curses, rewinds tape for 8th time*

                1. l0b0t   11 years ago

                  {Spits coffee} I'm dyin' over here!

                  Now I have to find an emulator so I can play Below The Root and Infernal Runner again.

          2. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

            I still find it an oddly specific denial.

            Has someone accused him of socking Timrekgrun in another thread?

            1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

              Notice he hasn't denied any of the rumors of his nocturnal activities with sheep.

              This also makes me think of Erlich's stunt in Silicon Valley.

    4. Andrew S.   11 years ago

      What an idiot.

      Hasn't he read the training manual? First you say you smelled marijuana outside the home, so you go in. Then you say you found some drug "residue". THEN you seize the gift cards using civil forfeiture.

  20. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    lawmakers from both sides of the aisle sharply criticize the White House for failing to brief Congress on its plan

    They get pissed when they get treated the same as the Plebs.

    They're special.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      There was a legal requirement to inform Congress - so basically Congress can claim they're a stand-in for the public - contempt for the former implies a contempt for the latter.

  21. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    Edward Snowden is reportedly in talks with U.S. officials over a possible deal that would allow him to return to the United States.

    One crucifixion, coming up.

    1. Swiss Servator, CH yeah!   11 years ago

      Upside down, in a tidal pool, yes?

      1. Brett L   11 years ago

        I thought gibbeting below the high tide line was reserved for pirates.

  22. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

    The bill would require doctors to keep women on life support regardless of family's wishes

    Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal will soon decide on a bill that could require hospitals to keep pregnant women on life support, regardless of her family's wishes.

    The bill, which passed the Louisiana State House of Representatives last week, specifies that if a woman is at least 20 weeks pregnant, she must be kept on life support.

    State lawmakers say the law would protect healthy fetuses from meeting an untimely demise as a result of the mother's condition. Abortion rights groups oppose the legislation, the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports.

    http://time.com/2851030/pregna.....by-jindal/

    Thank you, Piyush "Bobby" Jingle!

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      It's a fake scandal.

    2. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

      Jindal just vetoed a bill to allow consenting surrogacy agreements between adults. All of your reproductive decisions is his

      1. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

        Bullshit. This is a narrowly written law that only applies when a woman is declared brain dead. I would liken it to the state not permitting a family member from forcing a woman to get an abortion against her will.

        Sorry, but surrogacy laws aren't, and shouldn't be, applicable when there are three parties involved and one of them isn't represented.

    3. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      So they pass a law designed to help a human being develop properly when their mother is brain dead.

      How the fuck is this even the remotest bit controversial? Barring the mother writing a living will saying she wants an abortion if she's brain dead, I don't see how they could do anything but keep the woman on life support.

      If I can't make a woman I'm married to get an abortion on demand then how can I essentially do the same if she's brain dead and on life support?

      1. John   11 years ago

        It is controversial because support for abortion has become a death cult. To people like shreek, not killing the fetus is a crime.

        1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

          Indeed. For many of these people the starting premise is "Earth is over-populated".

          1. Restoras   11 years ago

            Worst. Meme. Ever.

        2. Red Rocks Rockin   11 years ago

          That's an interesting take on it, but I suspect it's less about being a death cult and more about the hyper-solipsism of the modern age. Raising a child involves a degree of sacrifice and responsibility that many people just can't handle emotionally. Very few abortions are due to the reasons that most people would support--rape, incest, health of mother or fetus/baby in jeopardy.

          It's telling that people will have an abortion because it's not convenient for them to do so, but apparently taking 30 seconds to put on a condom or getting Plan B the next day is even too much work for them.

          1. lap83   11 years ago

            Not to mention the apparent contradiction in the fact that women need to be provided birth control free from taxpayers they've never met, while the man they have sex with is apparently off the hook.

            "Strangers need to fund my birth control so I can have sex with men who refuse to!! No?! Misogynist!!11"

      2. Florida Man   11 years ago

        I'm not familiar with the bill. Does it override a living will that states the woman does not want to be on life support if brain dead? If so I see that is being controversial.

        1. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

          I'm honestly not sure, which is why I made sure to include that in my first post on the matter. If she has a living will, I would think an abortion would comply with the current law on the books in LA. But barring that, there's no way anyone else should have the right to pull the plug on her since it impacts another developing human being.

          1. Florida Man   11 years ago

            Normally only the mother has the right to abort, but if she is brain dead then she is legally dead. At that point I would think the father would inherit the right to abort since the mother is no longer able to make that choice. It should be up the the husband/father in the absence of a will to make that choice instead of the state.

            1. Citizen Nothing   11 years ago

              Your stance is far too reasonable for a discussion which includes abortion.
              (Again, my position: it's the software, not the hardware, that makes those little pink things human. No software, no person.)

              1. Florida Man   11 years ago

                I'm not really pro-abortion but if current law grants the right to the mother then it should be passed to the father when she is no longer able to make that decision.

    4. Rasilio   11 years ago

      I am a firm believer in abortion rights but honestly I can's see the outrage on this.

      At 20 weeks the Fetus is almost viable outside the womb and if keeping the woman alive on life support for 3 months would allow the baby to be born healthy I see no reason why you wouldn't do so.

      The only real issues in question is who is paying for the life support and who gets custody of the baby (since if her family was willing to pull her off life support and terminate the pregnancy they probably don't want the baby). As long as the law has the state paying the costs of keeping her alive and arranges an adoption of the baby this is probably not a bad law.

  23. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    "During the Obama administration, according to the Pentagon, police departments have received tens of thousands of machine guns; nearly 200,000 ammunition magazines; thousands of pieces of camouflage and night-vision equipment; and hundreds of silencers, armored cars and aircraft."

    They want to be ready for the vast Teabagger insurrection.

    1. Root Boy   11 years ago

      You will not be surprised when the Las Vegas killers are pointed to as a reason for this and they will be pointed to as mainstream Teabaggers.

      Not that an MRAP would have helped save the lives of two cops ambushed while eating donuts.

  24. ontheedge   11 years ago

    The former contractor is viewed by supporters, many of them anti-American leftists and anarchists, as a whistleblower

    Really? How about those of us who just don't want to be surveilled? Surely we're not all anti-American leftists and anarchists.

    1. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

      As much as I am ready for Obama to leave, I'm not looking forward to this kind of bullshit when the Repubs get in power again.

      1. Root Boy   11 years ago

        Too true. I love Cruz, but he's ragging on Paul for his foreign policy stance and I bet that includes NSA - I think only Paul would be serious about making NSA and the Courts follow the Constitution.

  25. Ted S.   11 years ago

    Hillary Clinton's new memoir Hard Choices hits the shelves today.

    I was wondering why I came across an ABC News Special of her last night while I was looking for the hockey game.

    Thankfully, the team that plays in the Most Overrated Arena on Earth lost again.

    1. Brett L   11 years ago

      Madison Suck Garden?

    2. John   11 years ago

      MSG is an evil place. It was built where the old Penn Station used to be. The old Penn Station was one of the greatest Beaux Arts buildings in the world. They tore it down to build a dismal set of office buildings, a dismal looking arena and the world's most depressing underground train station.

    3. John   11 years ago

      And don't forget it is home to the most overrated franchise in sports, the New York Knicks. Why a perennial loser like the Knicks are considered a premier NBA franchise is beyond me. They haven't won a title since 1973 and only won that one because John Havelchek got hurt. They are nothing but the Clippers in a worse climate with an owner who hasn't yet been unlucky enough to have his mistress record their phone calls.

      1. Ted S.   11 years ago

        Don't forget the Anouka Brown-Sanders thing.

    4. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Your wish is coming true.

      1. EDG reppin' LBC   11 years ago

        Jonathan Quick was playing out of his gourd last night. Amazing.

    5. db   11 years ago

      The only sad I.have about.this.is.that John Tortorella is not having to feel this.pain.

  26. BigT   11 years ago

    YES!

    Cleveland cop body camera's closer to becoming a reality
    Updated: 10/16/2013 12:25 pm EDT

    Cleveland City Council members have taken the first big step in getting cameras police officers will wear on their bodies during patrol.

    Council's public safety committee approved specifications so the city can now collect bids to buy the cameras.

    The city has committed to spending $800,000 for three years. The cameras are likely to cost several hundred dollars each.

    The Safety Director predicts they will actually be on the street by the middle of next year.

    Community activists have long complained that Cleveland police record very little of their activities with patrol car cameras.

    The body cameras will allow people exactly what happens when officers are driving or at a scene.

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      That last paragraph is missing a few words.

  27. Rich   11 years ago

    Critics have described the book as a "low-salt, low-fat, low-calorie offering" and a "newsless snore."

    How can that be? Hillary said there was no need to turn over her SecDef notes to investigators because the book contains all the information.

    "Ohhhhhh ..... OH!!"

    /Edith Bunker

    1. John   11 years ago

      In fairness to Hilary, it is not like she has ever done anything notable and besides, what difference does it make?

      1. Rich   11 years ago

        Ah, I see you do not miss the Big Picture.

      2. widget   11 years ago

        She did help run an unauthorized war in Libya for God knows what reason.

    2. widget   11 years ago

      Well, it's number 4 on Amazon, but has anyone read it? And, if so, why?

      1. John   11 years ago

        Yes people have. Why? Because the magazine or newspaper they work for pays them to read books and write reviews.

    3. db   11 years ago

      Sounds like it was ghostwritten by Michelle Obama.

    4. db   11 years ago

      Sounds like it was ghostwritten by Michelle Obama.

  28. John   11 years ago

    A measure aimed at grounding an upstart airline offering affordable fares for transcontinental travel appears headed for a vote in the House of Representatives.

    The transportation appropriations bill is seen as a vehicle for an amendment targeting Norwegian Air International's new service at U.S. airports, airline officials were told by consultants.

    Norwegian Air International, headquartered in Ireland, says it is offering economical fares and improved customer service for international travelers and providing new job opportunities in the United States. But union leaders, who have leaned on the U.S. Department of Transportation to deny Norwegian's application for low-fare international services, claim the competing airline has engaged in unfair labor practices.

    At issue are the actions of Norwegian Air International, the newest affiliate of the Norwegian Group, which obtained an air operator certificate in February from the Irish Aviation Authority in Dublin. Under the U.S.-EU Open Skies Agreement, an Irish airline can operate among all European cities and all cities in the United States.

    http://dailysignal.com/2014/06.....al-travel/

    Unions fight the scourge affordable binge travel.

    1. mr simple   11 years ago

      claim the competing airline has engaged in unfair labor practices.

      Statements like this always make me picture overweight men in suits stamping their feet and crying, "It's not fair!."

  29. db   11 years ago

    OMG THE ICE IS MELTI-

    Lake Superior still host to icebergs...in June.

  30. SugarFree   11 years ago

    Dolphin Sex Rears Its Sleek, Grey Head Again

    "It was sexual on his part - it was not sexual on mine, sensuous perhaps.

    "It would just become part of what was going on like an itch, just get rid of that we'll scratch and we would be done and move on.

    "I was there to get to know Peter, that was part of Peter."

    1. John   11 years ago

      How long before the first dolphin rape?

    2. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

      From the comments:

      Protip: as I learned reading the now-defunct dolphinsex.org (DON'T JUDGE ME), male dolphins can shoot semen some 14 feet (four meters) through water. Do not let them do that in any orifice, or you'll be explaining some substantial soft-tissue damage with the worst story ever.

      Or the best, I guess. I don't know your life.

      Female dolphins, on the other hand, apparently have muscles in places you've never imagined, and do all sorts of ... things that we humans can only dream of.

      1. Teenage Girl   11 years ago

        Eewww!!

      2. Ted S.   11 years ago

        Warty is intrigued.

    3. Warty   11 years ago

      Dolphin dildo

    4. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

      You could have at least posted pictures, dude.

      1. SugarFree   11 years ago

        People just yell at me.

        1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

          That has more to do with your ever encroaching dementia.

          1. SugarFree   11 years ago

            I outta take you over my knee. Fetch me a switch!

            1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

              The Joe Jackson School of Parenting

              1. Brett L   11 years ago

                I saw part of a movie last night that had Mario Van Peebles playing his dad interacting with a young Mario. That has to be cathartic.

    5. RBS   11 years ago

      It would just become part of what was going on like an itch, just get rid of that we'll scratch and we would be done and move on.

      She must be killer in bed...

    6. SugarFree   11 years ago

      Wet Goddess

      Set at the height of Vietnam protests, Jimi Hendrix and LSD, Wet Goddess is a story of strange encounters, awkward misadventures, and ultimately, love.

      The Customers Who Viewed This Item Also Viewed section is awesome...

      1. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

        Once you've bought this, what else is there to buy except for tinned fish?

        A one-star review of this tome:

        So Tragic
        By Solanum (Altrincham UK)

        The existence of this book really saddens me.

        Some years ago my dog wrote a similar book about how he used to hump my leg.

        I felt so betrayed. It was just awful.

        The only silver lining in my situation was that I was able to express my dissatisfaction to the dog so that he understood how hurt I was by having his testicles cut off.

        I am just glad that the dolphin is no longer alive to see this.

      2. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        I don't want that in my viewing history.

    7. Bones   11 years ago

      FTA: a researcher who participated in a NASA-funded experiment to teach dolphins to speak English,

      OK. Hold the fucking phone. How much did this impossible project cost?

      1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

        It was the Cold War. Don't tell me that you wanted those dolphins speaking fucking Russian or Chinese!

    8. Rasilio   11 years ago

      When my wife was a Marine Biology student in Galveston she worked with a dolphin rescue group and was often in the water helping rehab them.

      She told me that there were several males who would often sexually gratify themselves by wrapping their prehensile penises through her legs

  31. Warty   11 years ago

    Miss USA: "Women should learn self-defense!"

    Internet: "RAEP CULTURE!!!!"

    1. John   11 years ago

      She just keeps getting better doesn't she?

    2. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      "We should teach women self-defense to prevent sex crimes?" tweeted Maggie Miller. "Uh, how about we teach men not to rape.""

      People actually think like this?

      1. db   11 years ago

        I saw a billboard yesterday that had a picture of a clean-cut guy with glasses and a short beard that read:

        "He said NO. Do you know what that means?"

        And then something about rape prevention.

        1. Rich   11 years ago

          Well, we know what YES means.

          1. Marshall Gill   11 years ago

            100 no's and one yes means YES!

      2. Brett L   11 years ago

        Okay. But what about the guys who don't want to learn that lesson? Should women just lie back and think of Ryan Gosling?

        1. Virginian   11 years ago

          This whole "rape prevention via advertisement and hashtag" is just another example of leftwing semantic based bullshit. They can't actually lower the rate of real rape via hashtags. But they can redefine rape to mean any sex which is not viewed as a positive experience by the woman at some point in the future as rape.

          Just like they did with healthcare. They can't make it so they everyone has healthcare. But they can redefine healthcare as health insurance, and make sure everyone has a nice paper card. Which won't actually get them a doctor, but that's not the point.

          These people play with statistics and believe they're actually affecting the real world.

      3. entropy_factor   11 years ago

        yeah, let me tell you: as soon as my son is born, I am going to give him all the best raping techniques. Not only is it ok, but recommended.

        Seriously, I hate feminism so much for its lack of brain power.

      4. Whahappan?   11 years ago

        No, they don't think like this. They avoid thinking as much as possible. They emote like this.

    3. Idle Hands   11 years ago

      Who are these people who are teaching men to rape?

      1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

        Any product of pop culture that doesn't specifically appeal to the Jezebel-reading demographic.

        1. widget   11 years ago

          Is Sugarfree part of this demographic, smarty pants?

          1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

            Nothing free of sugar appeals to Ms. Lindy West.

    4. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

      Here's Miss Pennsylvania's rape comments.

      I thought this competition was all about escapism

      1. widget   11 years ago

        "If you know me, you know that I have always been vocal about my story and an advocate for sexual assault and rape..."

        Umm.

    5. Ted S.   11 years ago

      The questino is based on a faulty premise.

      1. Rich   11 years ago

        questino

        I like it.

        1. Trouser-Pod   11 years ago

          questino

          I like it.

          Plus, great band name board game name RPG name YA book series TNT series...fuck it.

          Yeah, I like it, too.

  32. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    "I was there to get to know Peter, that was part of Peter."

    Now, do Olaf, the polar bear.

  33. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    "Both Mr. Assad and the jihadists represent a challenge to the United States' core interests. Mr. Assad heads a regime that is an affront to human decency, and his vicious tactics have caused a flood of refugees that could destabilize the region....

    "First, the Free Syrian Army needs far greater material support and training so that it can mount an effective guerrilla war....

    "Cash for small salaries, together with reliable supplies of food, medicine and ammunition, would also put the moderate armed forces on an equal footing with the Qaeda groups that have long offered these enticements to recruit Syrian fighters. The Free Syrian Army commanders often pleaded with me for such basic items....

    "We don't have good choices on Syria anymore. But some are clearly worse than others. More hesitation and unwillingness to commit to enabling the moderate opposition fighters to fight more effectively both the jihadists and the regime simply hasten the day when American forces will have to intervene against Al Qaeda in Syria."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06......html?_r=0

    1. John   11 years ago

      I think we have a great choice in Syria, continue to let our enemies murder each other. I am not seeing a downside of Iran being sucked into an endless slog trying to prop up their only ally in the region while various Jhiadists go to fight and die in Syria instead of causing problems other places.

      It offends the Obama people's tiny brains to think that a drawn out war in Syria could be in the US best interests. And besides, they don't care what US interests are. They have a world to save. So, we will no doubt try to find some way to intervene and turn a win into an epic loss. But they will mean well and that is all that really matters isn't it?

      1. tarran   11 years ago

        I don't think it's only Obama's narcissism. The Saudis clearly want Assad out and a Wahabbist friendly government in Syria.

        And yes, having terrorists backers like the Saudis and terrorist backers like the Iranians duke it out with no clear winner isn't really harmful to we Americans.

        OTOH, Al Queda planned 9/11 when headquartered in Afghanistan, while participating in another proxy war between Iran and a Saudi ally, Pakistan: the Northern Alliance were Iranian backed, and the Taliban were backed by Pakistans ISI, the Saudi Royal Family and by Osama Bin Laden's private funding.

        1. John   11 years ago

          Your last paragraph makes a fair point. that said, the only way to prevent Syria being used as a safe haven for terrorists is to invade the place and run it like we did Iraq. That is not going to happen.

          I don't see a better option than letting it continue and be happy they are killing each other. Do we really want either side in charge?

          1. tarran   11 years ago

            If I had a choice, I'd prefer the Iranians. Persians have a much greater cultural affinity to we Americans than the Bedouin Arabs.

            Also, the Russians, wanting to preserve their refueling station naval base in the Med, would also be a stabilizing influence.

            I don't trust the Saudis. The way they had their clerics preach Jihad against Americans and send their disaffected youth to die in Iraq was pretty reprehensible.

      2. BigT   11 years ago

        The US should supply food and meds to all sides. Good PR and no military involvement.

        1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

          But then we're definately helping the bad guys!

          1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

            *sarcasm notice for whose whose detectors aren't working.

    2. Don Mynack   11 years ago

      Is the Levant really governable as a cobbled together country called "Syria"? It wasn't in the 2500 years before 1946 - we are just seeing the end result of wishful thinking on the part of foolish diplomats.

      1. Red Rocks Rockin   11 years ago

        Is the Levant really governable as a cobbled together country called "Syria"?It wasn't in the 2500 years before 1946 - we are just seeing the end result of wishful thinking on the part of foolish diplomats.

        I understand your point, but is it really fair to judge the region on those merits? The Levant was under the thumb of various imperial powers for most of that stretch, after all. Whether Syria would have survived as an independent entity during that period is largely a question we can't really answer.

  34. SugarFree   11 years ago

    Teacher Pulls Knife On Students, Demands Ride to Jack in the Box

    NBC News 4 reports that a Los Angeles teacher allegedly drunkenly pulled a knife on students in their car Saturday night and demanded they take him to the fast food chain Jack in the Box. The teacher, 34-year-old Edward Maust, was charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, and criminal threats after surrendering to the police Sunday afternoon.

    The alleged incident began when three of Maust's 17-year-old students at Arroyo Pacific Academy recognized Maust on a street corner at around 9:30 pm Saturday. Maust asked the students for a ride, and they said yes. Los Angeles County Sheriff Deputy Tony Moore notes, "They immediately noticed that he was intoxicated. They didn't feel safe. They got out of the car and he ordered them back into the car." After that, Maust allegedly pulled out a knife and demanded the students drive him to get fast food. One of the students managed to call 911, and Maust got out of the car and fled once he realized a police helicopter was tailing them.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Ass, gas or grass. No one rides for free, Teach.

    2. Rich   11 years ago

      Yet another reason to ban fast food.

    3. Brett L   11 years ago

      What the fuck? These kids are idiots. Just give the drunk a ride, take video, change into his class, and do fuck all your senior year.

      1. db   11 years ago

        We had a teacher (algebra) in our high school who was drunk pretty much every day. One of our guidance counselors was.on.the.sauce.constantly.

        It's amazing I learned anything in high.school I'll admit I was not so.good.in math due.to largely shitty teachers--only our geometry teacher and maybe the trig guy were worth.anything. Our calc teacher was.constantly embezzling fro, the.Math Club funds (which sound ridiculous.until you realize the Math Club was.the.most.popular.club in.school.because every year they took massive trips to "scout" colleges. One year they went to that bastion of mathematical excellence, UNLV, for a lesson in, er, probability.

  35. Fluffy   11 years ago

    Test

    1. Rich   11 years ago

      Intermittent squirrels from my perspective. The usual. 8-(

  36. Fluffy   11 years ago

    I am having trouble replying to posts today so when all of my rants appear out of threadline at the bottom of the page, that's why.

    1. invisible furry hand   11 years ago

      One day, we will all be The Late P Brooks

      1. Ted S.   11 years ago

        Damn you, IFH!

    2. Ted S.   11 years ago

      I always knew PBrooks was your sockpuppet.

  37. Bones   11 years ago

    This won't end well. Snowden should just wait until Rand Paul is president and ask for a full pardon.

    1. widget   11 years ago

      He could marry a lovely Russian gal and take up subsistence farming. There's no easy exit strategy, as Bowe Bergdahl quickly discovered.

  38. Brett L   11 years ago

    Redshirting Kindergarten. I'm hoping to have my wife convinced to boycott instead of redshirt.

    My son will be 5 in late July. The cutoff in our state for Kindergarten is "age 5 prior to August 1." My son has been screened by our local public school and deemed intellectually and developmentally ready to start school. It never occurred to me to deviate. However, nearly every parent, and more than a couple of educators, that know when his birthday falls related to the cutoff, seemed surprised that I would be sending him "so soon."

    1. db   11 years ago

      I had a friend who started first grade at like 4 1/2. I was 5, and many of.our.classmates.were 6. For years we heard from other people's parents about.how.irresponsible.it.was.to.send him to.school so.early. He and.I.were.consistently #1.and #2 grades wise.all through the 8th grade together. When.his.academic performance was recognized, the talk.shifted.to how he.would be.emotionally.and socially behind everyone.else. that was proven.incorrect.too.

      Now.he's a VP at some e-payment firm.in.Florida and must be raking.in.serious.cash.

    2. Red Rocks Rockin   11 years ago

      As someone with a mid-July birthday, I suspect it may have been better if I'd been held back a year and started kindergarten when I was six instead of five. Mom was raising me on her own, though, and basically needed the taxpayer-funded babysitting service at that point.

      1. John   11 years ago

        I have a July birthday as well. I probably would have done better if I had started at six. Not so much in kindergarten but as I got older. Being 13 in class with kids who were 14 or sometimes even 15 made it hard.

        1. Cdr Lytton   11 years ago

          Fall birthday here and wasn't the youngest in my cohort. Cutoff was end of October or sometime in November when I started. One of my friends was one of those 15 year olds and frankly he was one of the most immature ones in our class. That only mattered through middle school. High school was almost completely mixed classes based on ability/academic achievement.

          Fuck the squirrels. Those rodents need to be held back a couple of years in a big stock pot.

    3. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      My parents had me repeat 7th grade because I had surgery on my ankles and missed a couple of months of school. Funny, because the school wanted me to skip 8th grade for the same reason (because I did the two months worth of work in about a week). I have an august birthday and I can tell you that being 16 before your sophomore year starts and 18 your entire senior year is pretty sweet.

      1. Red Rocks Rockin   11 years ago

        I have an august birthday and I can tell you that being 16 before your sophomore year starts and 18 your entire senior year is pretty sweet.

        One of my buddies got his driver's license right after we began our sophomore year. Even driving around in his little old beater car in the early 90s (the fucking thing had a choke, for god's sake), we still felt like badasses for not having to walk to school anymore.

  39. Sevo   11 years ago

    Lefty rag tugs forelock over low-friction hiring:

    "Elance-oDesk links freelancers to jobs worldwide"
    [...]
    "But his story also illustrates how such marketplaces drive down wages, as their worldwide reach means that U.S. freelancers compete against cheaper overseas workers."
    http://www.sfgate.com/technolo.....hc-bustech

    Or, by driving down costs, it makes jobs where there were none and products that wouldn't otherwise exist.

    1. Virginian   11 years ago

      The real fear: that the braindead leftwing women in the HR department will be rightfully rendered obsolete.

    2. lap83   11 years ago

      I worked for a guy who hired some ddesigners in developing countries using oDesk. He saved them from chronic unemployment and even bought them new computers after a while.

      If you think that is somehow a bad thing, you probably hate people and shouldn't be trusted on any political issue.

  40. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    News from the Deadenders desk.

    The narrative has been firmly established: Marijuana use is innocent, a pleasurable pastime with few if any harmful effects. Those who caution that making pot legal might create significant problems have been laughed off as alarmists or old fuddy-duddies.

    A sobering new article in today's New England Journal of Medicine may startle some people out of this hazy-dazy reverie.

    A report titled "Adverse Health Effects of Marijuana Use" from the National Institute on Drug Abuse, part of the federal government's National Institutes of Health, summarizes the latest research into marijuana use.

    It's a compendium of drug warrior talking point for the last 75 years. They Bowdlerized it, though; no OMG NIGRAH SEX FIENDS!

    1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

      So, all of the funny has been taken out. Damn.

    2. PD Scott   11 years ago

      To be fair, Christian Scientists aren't big on any drugs.

      Except the opiate of the masses, of course.

  41. Rich   11 years ago

    A sobering new article in today's New England Journal of Medicine may startle some people out of this hazy-dazy reverie.

    "Moreover, this buzzkill will no doubt harsh many mellows."

  42. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    Snowden should just wait until Rand Paul is president and ask for a full pardon.

    Fuck that. Appoint him to the Supreme Court.

  43. Palin's Buttplug   11 years ago

    Buffett set to invest $15 billion more in solar/wind - double his previous bet.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/.....07991.html

    This is the way to handle AGW - by letting the market do it. Sometime around 2020 investment in coal-fired plants will finally be over. And the anti-science wingnuts won't have to moan about cap and trade.

    1. db   11 years ago

      It's a guaranteed return for Buffett since he he has the resources to pay off politicians to ensure subsidies and tax breaks for his businesses. There is a market involved, but it's a market in power and favors, not a true market of legitimate commerce.

    2. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

      Berkshire has been able to plow so much into renewable energy because it can use tax credits to offset profit at other businesses, Abel, the 52-year-old CEO of Berkshire Hathaway Energy, said yesterday.

      Markets indeed.

  44. Virginian   11 years ago

    https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/29264049/

    He's coming home Friday.

    1. Jordan   11 years ago

      Very cute! Kudos for rescuing him.

    2. lap83   11 years ago

      Adorable

    3. Max Power   11 years ago

      That's a cute dog. I have a beagle, he's a great dog but I wish I'd gotten him a puppy. He'd probably be better behaved.

  45. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    Is Buffet going to partner up with that other free market stalwart, T Boondoggle Pickens?

  46. db   11 years ago

    Five U.S. troops were killed on Monday in a friendly fire incident in Afghanistan

    Five U.S. t

    Last to die for a mistake? Let's hope so.

  47. Virginian   11 years ago

    So, I'm thinking of going out and voting against Eric Cantor.

  48. BigT   11 years ago

    BP approved for first commercial drones in USA. In AK.

    http://www.nasdaq.com/article/.....0610-00610

  49. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

    The plea deal better include alt-text.

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