Debate Over Obamacare Is Still Not Over, Americans Say

Just over a month ago, in a fit of assertive smugness of the sort to which politicians fally prey an awful lot, President Obama insisted, "The point is the repeal debate is and should be over. The Affordable Care Act is working." Never mind the horror stories about lost coverage, rising costs, glitchy exchanges, and limited access to actual lealth care, "it's well past time to move on as a country and refocus our energy on the issues that the American people are most concerned about."
You can bet President Obama wants to put discussion of his Frankenstein monster of a health law in the rear-view mirror; opinions of Obamacare aren't flattering, and they aren't helping his party's political prospects. But the American people aren't going along with the program.
In fact 60 percent of Americans say the debate over Obamacare should not be over, according to a new Politico Poll. And which way do they lean on the law? Among those polled, 48 percent want the law repealed outright, 35 percent want it changed, and only 16 percent want the president's signature health plan maintained as is. Eighty-nine percent of respondents said the health care law will be important in determining their congressional votes in November.
Not surprisingly, the poll picked up a Republican advantage in voter sentiment going into November's congressional elections.
The Politico Poll also picked up slight opposition to same-sex marriage and marijuana legalization, and support for immigration reform and "stricter background checks for gun purchases," if you're trying to read the ideological tea leaves.
Respondents also favored divided government, with one party controlling the White House, and the other Congress. Some economists say this approach is the best bet for achieving less-expensive government, as the parties squabble without running up the bills.
Those bills can cen be incurred by controversial measures, such as those jamming a poorly constructed health system down everybody's throats.
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it's like the warm-mongers: when reality is not conforming to your wishes, you declare the discussion closed.
Did this administration get its management experience moderating an online forum?
Pauly Krugnuts: Health Care Confidential
..I know about a health care system that has been highly successful in containing costs, yet provides excellent care. And the story of this system's success provides a helpful corrective to anti-government ideology. For the government doesn't just pay the bills in this system -- it runs the hospitals and clinics.
No, I'm not talking about some faraway country. The system in question is our very own Veterans Health Administration, whose success story is one of the best-kept secrets in the American policy debate....
...The secret of its success is the fact that it's a universal, integrated system. Because it covers all veterans, the system doesn't need to employ legions of administrative staff to check patients' coverage and demand payment from their insurance companies. Because it covers all aspects of medical care, it has been able to take the lead in electronic record-keeping and other innovations that reduce costs, ensure effective treatment and help prevent medical errors.
Moreover, the V.H.A., as Phillip Longman put it in The Washington Monthly, ''has nearly a lifetime relationship with its patients.'' As a result, it ''actually has an incentive to invest in prevention and more effective disease management. ...
...For the lesson of the V.H.A.'s success story -- that a government agency can deliver better care at lower cost than the private sector -- runs completely counter to the pro-privatization, anti-government conventional wisdom that dominates today's Washington....
I will gladly give Kruggie my VA spot. How does that sound, Mr. K?
DC is dominated by anti-government thinkers? Either I missed a lot of big changes, or Krugman is full of shit as usual.
I was not paying attention, but was it not only yesterday that shitmonkey (PB) was saying something about the overwhelming Poll approval #s of the ACA or something?
What's to debate? Obamacare is a Chinese clusterfuck, and was doomed before it even started. Either it goes down, or the USA goes down. I'm still in shock that the slow-motion train wreck was allowed to pass in the first place.
Any time you have a national policy that blatantly violates the rights of its citizens, the debate can never be over. If it is, then the nation is over.