Are You an "Electronic Child Molester"?: 10 Dumb Quotes About Video Games From Pols And Pundits

"Are You an 'Electronic Child Molester?': 10 Dumb Quotes About Video Games From Pols And Pundits," produced by Nick Gillespie and Meredith Bragg. About 80 seconds.

Original release date was Mary 7, 2014 and the original write-up is below:

Plato famously banned poetry from his Republic.

Well, he had nothing on today's politicians and pundits, who really, really, really hate video games. Here are 10 great quotes that bring the stupid like Grand Theft Auto brings the awesome.

1. If you're a parent and you allow your son or daughter to watch this…you're a lousy parent."—MSNBC host Ed Schultz, talking about Grand Theft Auto V, September 13, 2013.
2. "Grand Theft Auto…encourages [children] to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them."—Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), July 14, 2005.
3. "Every school massacre can be traced to the young killers' addiction to violent video games."—conservative activist Phyllis Schlafly, September 10, 2010.
4. "These games teach a child to enjoy inflicting torture."—Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), December 9, 1993.
5. "And let us say to the Nintendos and the other games, if you are going to be sick, we are going to find a way to protect this country from you."—former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, May 12, 1999.
6. "These electronic child molesters have little sense of restraint or boundaries."—Ralph Nader, October 27, 1999.
7. "[Some games] are more akin to hate speech than free speech."—Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.), June 14, 2006.
8. "Video game violence & glorification must be stopped—it is creating monsters!"—Donald Trump, December 17, 2012.
9. "This is all about [gamers'] lust for violence and the industry's lust for money."—state Sen. Leland Yee (D-Calif.), January 26, 2013.
10. "I think videos games is [sic] a bigger problems than guns because video games affect people."—Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), January 30, 2013.

Comments

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Hello there!

http://chroniclesofharriet.fil.....roll-2.jpg

"In an analysis written for the Jewish People Policy Institute, Dov Maimon and Nadia Ellis comment that "as long as Jewish [animal] slaughter and Jewish circumcision were carried out on a very small scale, they were not regarded as a public-policy issue worthy of attention and were tolerated under special arrangements. The scaling-up of these practices as a result of the growing Muslim presence in several European countries now seems to require official regulation." A backlash against Muslims that affects core Jewish practices as well makes this perhaps the first time ever that the term "anti-Semitism" applies with tolerable accuracy....

"... In Catholic doctrine, baptism is the Christian equivalent of circumcision, the "circumcision of Christ." Like circumcision, baptism can be administered to children as well as adults, a proposition affirmed by Origen, Cyprian, John Chrysostom, and Augustine, among others. One is forced to wonder whether the human rights community's insistence on adult consent as a necessary source of authorization represents a secularized version of the Protestant rejection of infant baptism?and whether it is an accident that the epicenter of antipathy to infant circumcision is located in heavily Protestant northern Europe."

https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/mark-belonging

[Cytotoxic]

In Catholic doctrine, baptism is the Christian equivalent of circumcision

I thought that was the child molestation?

One is forced to wonder whether the human rights community's insistence on adult consent as a necessary source of authorization represents a secularized version of the Protestant rejection of infant baptism

I don't what the hell this means in Catholicese but I can tell you that my opposition to legalized child genital mutilation really has nothing to do with Protestantism.

[Agammamon]

I think you do understand what it means - it means that both baptism and circumcision are things that can only be fully participated in as an adult with full mental faculties. And someone is trying to muddy the waters by conflating the two religious rites.

Both baptism and circumcision are believed necessary (by religious adherents) for the child to fully participate in and enjoy the benefits of their relationship with God.

*However*, to those of us who are non-believers (in religion anyway) the two rites are vastly different in their practical effects.

One (baptism) is considered harmless - no lasting physical changes and, technically, can be repudiated in later life.

The other (circumcision) involves actually cutting the kid for (to our eyes) a purely cosmetic procedure that doesn't have any actual benefit (unlike repairing a hairlip as a counter-example).

BUT . . .

As a recipient of a circumcision I can tell you that it has no lasting negative physical effects either.

And if you're going to get upset about this, how are you going to react when its possible to give your children 6 fingers?

[Cytotoxic]

As a recipient of a circumcision I can tell you that it has no lasting negative physical effects either.

As a recipient of circumcision, you have no idea what it's like be uncut and therefore have no idea.

I'll cross the six-fingered bridge when I get to it.

[mr simple]

Some are already born with extra digits and we cut those off. Is there any other purpose to that than cosmetic?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I always wanted a third testicle.

[Almanian!]

George Washington had, like, 30 dicks...

[Dweebston]

+1 goddamn

[Swiss Servator, CH yeah!]

+ 6'20"

[Bill]

Well, your penis is 2 inches shorter, but other than that, no lasting harm.

[SusanM]

Regarding the earlier discussion, rather than trying to pick particular titles, what exactly makes a game "libertarian"? I've listened to Rush for about 30 years now and never got that they were libertarian/objectivist darlings and I expect the same may be true for games (except, of course, the Rainbow Six series).

[Agammamon]

I don't think it was a list of *libertarian games* as such *several of those games have no particular libertarian bent - a game like Fable 3is of note only for its attempts at adding in 'consequence' for tour actions (which it fails at, miserably) - but of games that have ideas or mechanics of interest to libertarians.

DE:HR - plays the augment/anti-augment issue like they're making horseshoes. IOW with no finesse and a lot of hammering you with false choices. Oh and the obligatory evil corporations.

FO3 - you're mostly just a tool of the factions and you are railroaded through most of the story. Until the DLC came out you *had* to kill yourself to resolve the central conflict, even when you had people *right there* who could have done so without anyone dying.

[Agammamon]

Really, I think its more a list of 'libertarian games' compiled by someone who doesn't play games and just read some marketing blurb about them.

[Corning]

I think Suderman plays video games.

He just wrote down a list of games he likes and called them libertarian.

[Carl ?s his privilege]

The key is that the list was "Video Games Every Libertarian Should Play", not "Libertarian Video Games".

[SusanM]

Well, okay, but why should libertarians play Bioshock, for example? It was a few hours of a clunky FPS parodying a cartoonish conception of objectivism. Why is it a "must play"?

[Agammamon]

'Cuz it references Ayn Rand!

[Episiarch]

Some people really enjoyed Bioshock. For instance, NutraSweet did. You should ask him. I found it to be pretty good, but without loot and randomized weapons I tend to lose interest.

[Corning]

but without loot and randomized weapons I tend to lose interest.

Diablo

cuz Libertarianism is the war against the Mexican name for the devil.

[Episiarch]

Try Path of Exile. It's free on Steam, and is a much better followup to Diablo II than Diablo III was. Supposedly they've removed a lot of the annoying shit in Diablo III at this point (terrible drops to force you to buy stuff in the auction houses most prominently), but frankly, Path of Exile is actually really fun. Did I mention free?

[Corning]

I looked at the video on Steam.

That skill tree makes me want to strangle puppies.

[Episiarch]

It seems complicated as shit at first but once you start learning it (and other aspects of the game that seem complicated) you start realizing that it gives you a ton of options. I felt the same way, but then came to really like it.

[Agammamon]

I second this - POE is pretty awesome.

The tree *is* annoying though - even when you wrap your head around it.

I hate skill trees and would have preferred they just allow you to pick among the possibilities. Especially since that vast majority of the non-special skills are just stat buffs. Don't make me waste a skillpoint on something I don't need to get to something I do.

[Dweebston]

I liked the FO3 style of skills: leveling gives you access to new perks, but you're free to choose among them and none of them branch. More of a tradeoff, less grindy.

Oh, and I nominate HL2 for libertarianish games. A chilling, Soviet-styled authoritarian regime, a nemesis espousing humanity's best interests, glimpses of capricious abuses of power, and it's only when the oppressed lay hands on the guns that they begin bearing back the tyranny.

[Acosmist]

By 1999, Nintendo was firmly "family friendly". Newt, you derp.

[MythicalLibertarianWoman]

That one was my favorite. Nintendo is like the Disney of the gaming world. The stupidity of that comment causes near-painful cringing.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Animal cruelty, head injuries from bumping into rock ceilings, and do I even need to mention the magic mushrooms?

[Agammamon]

I like how he says the 'Nitendo*s* and other games' - because he's so clueless about the shit he wants to legislate on that he doesn't know the difference between a game console and the games played on that platform.

[TheZeitgeist]

Princess Peach inspires such degenerate deviancy as depicted here:

http://www.squidoo.com/princes.....uper-mario

And objectifying women, unlike anything digital, is something where piggy-pig Newt is an actual expert.

[Corning]

Nintendo is like the Disney of the gaming world.

Huh?

But it is...

[Rev Match]

Fuck them. I'm going back to playing Total War (with Darthmod).

[cw]

When I was young, video games and the assorted nincompoops who decried them were the reason I became skeptical of both liberals and conservatives.

[DK]

Grand Theft Auto...encourages [children] to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them."?Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), July 14, 2005.

Does this woman ever think before she opens her piehole?

So, Hillary, what video game encourages narcissistic, sociopathic behavior? Correct answer: none. But it would be nice if we could ban people with that psychological profile from ever attaining office.

[Corning]

Hilary was also a big supporter of the protection of marriage act.

2016 should be fun...

and by fun I mean the deep dark depressing pit of watching self proclaimed liberals totally forget anything they believed that was good and support and vote for a full on fascist.

[Brendan]

California should be honored and grateful to have someone like Senator Yee protecting from violence and industry's lust for money.

[Agammamon]

Yeah, with Lee they only have to deal with the violence engendered by his lust for money. Totally different!

[Jerry on the sea]

Original release date was Mary 7, 2014 and the original write-up is below:

Uh oh.

[Corning]

Mary 7, 2014

The date of hit and run's doom.

[Episiarch]

"Every school massacre can be traced to the young killers' addiction to violent video games."?conservative activist Phyllis Schlafly

Uh huh. In a just world, moronic pundits making moronic statements would lose their job for lying/being a retard. Of course, we have the exact opposite; the more bullshit they spew the more they get paid.

[Cytotoxic]

It's like she's trying to out-Coulter Anne Coulter.

[C. Anacreon]

Coulter has often said she is a huge fan of Schlafly

[The Late P Brooks]

Guilty!

The consul general said he dispatched a staff member to Missoula. He thanked Bullock for the excellent cooperation the official received from "the competent Missoula authorities, in particular the police and the district attorney's office."

"Allow me also to state clearly that the German government fully respects the people of Montana's right to set its laws as the people of Montana see fit," Rothen wrote.

The official expressed confidence that the investigations would be conducted with the "utmost impartiality and that eventually justice will be done by not letting go unpunished the shooting of an unarmed juvenile through what appears to be the exercise of grossly disproportionate violence."

Fucking presumption of innocence- how does it work?

At least he graciously permits us to write our own laws, despite their plain contravention of EU Human Rights doctrine.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"He added that German penal law also applies to crimes committed against German nationals abroad."

Nice suggestion - I'd rather be convicted of homicide in Germany than in Montana.

In Germany you get a light sentence and serve it in a, shall we say, comparatively friendlier setting that you would in Montana:

"[L]ife in prison aims to inculcate fundamental skills that offenders will need in the community. For example, prisoners are allowed individual expression and a fair amount of control over their daily lives, including the opportunity to wear their own clothes and prepare their own meals; and, in order to instill selfworth, both work and education are required and remunerated. In addition, respect for prisoners' privacy is practiced as a matter of human dignity. One American participant viewed this practice as a matter of common sense, commenting while visiting a German prison, "If you treat inmates like humans, they will act like humans.""

http://www.theatlanticcities.c.....dont/7553/

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"The prison regulations clearly state that I am entitled to *two* servings of apple strudel...and this isn't nearly enough beer! Get me more!"

"Jawohl, mein herr, at once..."

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"And knock more loudly before coming into my cell! I almost didn't have time to hide the crack I'm dealing!"

"Very sorry, sir..."

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Some German prison cells:

http://www.damncoolpictures.co.....cells.html

[Corning]

They look like IKEA ads.

[Paul.]

Clearly low security. I see 972 improvised weapons in the last one.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Eurovision.

WTF

[Rich]

The singer, who sported a full beard, smouldered like a Bond Girl in a gold embellished fishtail gown.

UK hopeful Molly Smitten-Downes came in seventeenth place

You can't fool *me*, Archduke. That's from The Onion.

[Episiarch]

It's even more ridiculous when you see Poland's entry. They should have won. I know I would vote for them.

[Paul.]

My Mother warned me about Polish girls. Now I know why.

[Ted S.]

Goddamn motherfucking gifs substituting for video!

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Wurst is the best, lol

illletmyselfout.com

[Lady Bertrum]

According to Ed Schultz I'm a horrible parent. According to Hillary Clinton my sons will grow up to be rapists.

Good thing I have no respect for either of them or their idiotic opinions.

[LizzyMikezbuk]

my co-worker's step-mother makes $63 /hour on the computer . She has been without a job for eight months but last month her payment was $19211 just working on the computer for a few hours. try this site......
http://www.Works23.us

[Francisco d'Anconia]

So your co-worker's step-mother worked 305 hours last month?

Sounds like a great job.

[Rich]

Obviously LizzyMikezbuk means that last month the step-mother worked just a few hours on the computer at $63/hour. The remaining $19K was earned in just 10 hours having used the computer to set up appointments as a high-priced callgirl.

[MJGreen]

OT: If you're not sick of Piketty talk, Bob Murphy has found another lie in Piketty's 'rigorous, data-driven' book. As with minimum wage, Piketty conveniently gets basic historical facts wrong in a way that makes Democrats look good and Republicans bad.

As Murphy says at the end of his post: "But hey, it's all good. He gives us a scientific justification for taking property away from rich people. Why let the above quibbles get in the way of worldwide confiscation?"

[Rich]

Look, I don't mean to be a stickler, but the above tax "history" is totally wrong.

Piketty, piketty, piketty.

[Warty]

Are You an "Electronic Child Molester"?

You know who's a non-electronic child molester? Ar-SIGNAL LOST

[Warty]

Brett L, I decided to give Rome 2 a second chance because of you. It turns out that it's quite fun with the Divide et Impera mod. Why Creative Assembly decided to release a game that's unplayable in its base state is beyond me.

[Agammamon]

Because money (read: fuck you), that's why.

'Get it in the can, we'll fix it in post' is not just the mantra for movie production anymore.

[np]

0. "I hope you walk away with one thought today?that if you don't do something about it, we will." -- Herb Kohl (D-WI)

And they did. This is how government nudges people in the "right" direction. Most people don't realize how the environment changed drastically after that threat which immediately resulted in the ESRB and implicit government regulations (which are much stricter than the MPAA system regarding sex) and the age-raising norms that followed.

The government will secretly check up on you annually to make sure to make sure you're doing the right thing too.

It's sort of like how they can nudge banks to close down porn biz accounts. Or of gun or cryptocurrency businesses. Or sports, or performance enhancers in sports.

Just threatening to regulate is good enough to get people into "voluntary" compliance. A Senate or Congressional hearing will usually do the trick if 1:1 meetings don't work. Sometimes sending letters to state legislators can be easier too.

[np]

Due to the 2 link limit, here are the links regarding banks and guns:
http://www.americanbanker.com/.....597-1.html

And sports:
http://reason.com/blog/2013/07.....nt_3900999

On the other hand it's disheartening to see so many people easily cajoled into self-regulation, self-censorship, "voluntarily" asking permission and taking orders.

[Aresen]

I wish every one of the ten people quoted had been aboard MA370.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

squirrel accord

[jesse.in.mb]

There will be no peace with the squirrels!

There will be onl

[Swiss Servator, CH yeah!]

OH GOD! THEY GOT JESSE!

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Lee Marshall, voice of Tony the Tiger, RIP

[Rich]

End of an era. RIP

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

So what's Brad Garrett up to these days?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Where were you when history was made today?

t took nearly the entire draft, but Michael Sam and the NFL finally made history.

The St. Louis Rams used the 249th pick in the seventh round to select Sam, who has officially become the league's first openly gay player.

Being picked by St. Louis means Sam will stay in the state where he played college football as a standout at the University of Missouri.

Sam, the 2013 defensive player of the year in the Southeastern Conference, came out as gay to his teammates before last season. He disclosed his sexual orientation in media interviews earlier this year. At the NFL scouting combine in February he drew the largest media contingent that anyone there could recall.

Sure I wish the guy well and all, but it is kind of disgusting to see ESPN and the rest of the sports media salivate over this.

[Rich]

*Damn* it, will you tell us the *time*?

[Corning]

And the chance that he is the first gay pro-football player is...

ZERO.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Yeah, that WAG section is full of dudes.

[Calidissident]

That makes Sam more important, not less.

[neoteny]

One gay Ram must be awfully lonely.

[Calidissident]

"Disgusting" is a pretty strong word. The guy's not Jackie Robinson and will (or is if you prefer) get more attention than merited, but I don't see how somewhat excessive coverage is "disgusting." I understand the "who cares?" reaction by many, but the fact is that if nobody cared, there would have been an openly gay NFL player before 2014.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

MSNBC's Toure interviews son of Martin Luther King, expresses shock when he says blacks should engage in dialogue with Tea Party

[Notorious G.K.C.]

It's like he wants to sit down with them at some kind of table of brotherhood, or some wussy crap like that...

[Notorious G.K.C.]

And no offense, it looks like it's hardly the first table he's sat down to. I can say this, since my handle is that of a good-natured larger guy, just like Double-Jr.

[Rich]

Engage in dialog by any means necessary, of course.

[Corning]

Martin Luther King jr is still alive?!?!

Its a fucking miracle!!!

...

Kidding aside Martin Luther King Sr was a republican and Martin Luther King Jr voted for Nixon.

Should not be surprised if Martin Luther King Jr's son is not as hateful of republican tea pirates as MSNBC is.

[C. Anacreon]

Their astonishment comes from the fact that they consider the tea party to be nothing more than a latter-day Ku Klux Klan. Even MLK 3 in the video said that their "policies are only a mask" for what is implied as the true reason for their existence, which in their minds is hatred for a black man who dared to be the president.

Sadly, the tea party, which was born as a tax-revolt idea, ended up with MSNBC types doing anything they could to discredit them, including such tricks as getting an agent provacateur to hold up a poster of Obama with a bone through his nose long enough to photograph, as the only such sign at a peaceful meeting of 10,000 (and the sign was immediately surrounded by attendees, taken down, and the individual asked to leave). The media then played that photo over and over again until they had made it a fait accompli that everyone in the tea party was a horrible racist, and then even had such stunts as the black politician claim he was called the N-word fourteen times as he walked past a demonstration -- something that even in the age of smartphones no one ever could prove, even thought there was a $100K reward offered by Breitbart. All this was enough to make just about everyone in the Republicans disavow them.

I was happy to see a voter revolt against taxes and spending initially,but it is impossible to support them now. In the Bay Area it is used as a way to automatically discredit any individual ("they're like a teabagger.")

[Calidissident]

According to Wikipedia, King voted for Kennedy in 1960.

[np]

First life with 'alien' DNA

An engineered bacterium is able to copy DNA that contains unnatural genetic letters.

For billions of years, the history of life has been written with just four letters ? A, T, C and G, the labels given to the DNA subunits contained in all organisms. That alphabet has just grown longer, researchers announce, with the creation of a living cell that has two 'foreign' DNA building blocks in its genome.

Hailed as a breakthrough by other scientists, the work is a step towards the synthesis of cells able to churn out drugs and other useful molecules. It also raises the possibility that cells could one day be engineered without any of the four DNA bases used by all organisms on Earth.

"What we have now is a living cell that literally stores increased genetic information," says Floyd Romesberg, a chemical biologist at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California, who led the 15-year effort. Their research appears online today in Nature1.

[Rich]

Malyshev sees the ability to control the uptake of foreign DNA bases as a safety measure that would prevent the survival of alien cells outside the lab, should they escape. But other researchers, including Benner, are trying to engineer cells that can make foreign bases from scratch, obviating the need for a feedstock.

From "scratch", or from *people*? PEOPLE?!

[Corning]

According to every sci-fi movie i have ever seen involving the use of alien DNA this will not end well for the spunky lab assistant intern and the over confidant night guard.

[Ken Shultz]

Most of the scifi movies I see suck, but I rented The Machine from iTunes the other day, and it was a damn good flick.

There weren't any brand new concepts you've never thought about before, but it was the first time I saw a scifi flick in a long time and didn't think it sucked.

[Rich]

Industry Doesn't 'Have a Soul Anymore'

"There's no boardrooms where people are asking, 'Is 'Grand Theft Auto' good for people?' They only ask, 'Does it make money?'"

Boardrooms chock full of electronic child molesters!

[Corning]

Pretty sure the heads of Rockstar who made GTA just did lines of coke and screamed "Fuck America the Cunt" after each line.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

What's happened the the Habs?

[Rich]

Probly fell victim the the alien DNA.

[Hyperion]

What do you guys think about Derek Carr?

[Rich]

But I don't think about him.

[Hyperion]

Ok, fair enough. The guy makes all the throws, IMHO, but a lot of the time, he has a strange sort of side arm like mechanic...

[Rich]

Oh, do you mean, do we think he's gay?

[Hyperion]

No, I mean do you think he throws the football sort of unorthodox like...

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I thought you couldn't use your hands in football?

[Hyperion]

Dude, that is 'Futebal' - Foo-chee-baw. Not football, you know, REAL football, American Style?

Mmkay?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

So, is that the one with the ice and the skates or the bats and the gloves?

[Ken Shultz]

"Grand Theft Auto...encourages [children] to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them."?Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.)"

Hillary Clinton is the fucking Antichrist.

Her main criticism of Bush the Lesser was that he wasn't neocon enough for her tastes, and she comes to pretty much the same conclusions as all the bible thumpers out there when it comes to freedom of expression, etc.?

She's a culture warrior, a collectivist on economic issues, and a war hawk! And what makes matters worse is that she actually has some credibility with swing voters. All that blind support from the Progressives out there, too--who could be worse?

Maybe Liz Warren, but she'd quickly become a laughing stock.

[Hyperion]

Maybe Liz Warren, but she'd quickly become a laughing stock.

Why don't you love the White Sqauw?

[Hyperion]

Hillary Clinton is the fucking Antichrist

No, the Hildebeast is not the Antichirst. She's simply the slimiest status quo NeoCon available.

[Ken Shultz]

She's anti-libertarian in every way I can think of.

She ain't got a bit of libertarian in her at all, anywhere.

On the Nolan Chart, she's stuffed down so far in the authoritarian corner, you can hardly see her beady little Antichrist eyes.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

For as much as she sucks, I think she'd be significantly better than what we've got now.

[Ken Shultz]

I think Obama gets a free pass on stuff for being a minority and for comparisons to Bush, so maybe you're right about that.

Still, she's more of a warmonger than Obama is.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/.....y-clinton#

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

One of the world's most eminent climate scientists - for several decades a warmist - has defected to the climate sceptic camp.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I suspect we'll see more of this as the models come apart. Anyone wanting to maintain any semblance of credibility will need to distance themselves.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Obviously the Kochs and their filthy money got to him. That's the only possible answer here.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Rats abandoning a sinking ship.

[C. Anacreon]

I have a friend who works in the green-technology media who is a vigorous alarmist. I wonder what he'll say this time. No doubt he'll have a link to some website that already claims this guy was a fraud from the beginning and is just a shill for Chevron-Texaco. I'm actually even reluctant to send this on, his response will be so predictable (and he'll once again imply that I am a stupid asshole for not believing 'the science' -- interestingly enough, I'm the one with the science degrees, his are in English and law).

[Francisco d'Anconia]

interestingly enough, I'm the one with the science degrees, his are in English and law).

The easiest ones to fool are those with no science background.

Be interesting to see a breakdown of the backgrounds of the bleevers vs deniers.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

It's a fashion statement for most of them more than anything.

Their concern makes them science-literate, compassionate, and serious in contrast to this ignorant rednecks in flyover country that are brainwashed by Fox and the Koch brothers.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Mothers who anonymously post messages about how much they hate their children

Some of these are pretty depressing. But this one:

I read my daughter's tweets. She doesn't know. She seems like a real asshole.

is hilarious.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Guess who wrote these:

"Sometimes I wonder what happened to the son I abandoned. And I grieve at the murder of my late husband - they never caught the killer. But at least I have a new, much younger husband to console me in my sorrow!"

"I think my son doesn't like my new husband. I'm afraid it's going to turn into a big drama."

"Just because my son is a big-shot Emperor and an aspiring musician doesn't mean he can't spend some time with his own mother. But I'm overjoyed - he just told me he was going to give me a big surprise - something I don't expect. I hope it's jewelry!"

[Paul.]

My mother?

[Corning]

"Sometimes I wonder what happened to the son I abandoned. And I grieve at the murder of my late husband - they never caught the killer. But at least I have a new, much younger husband to console me in my sorrow!"

Oedipus's Mom

"I think my son doesn't like my new husband. I'm afraid it's going to turn into a big drama."

Hamlet's Mom.

"Just because my son is a big-shot Emperor and an aspiring musician doesn't mean he can't spend some time with his own mother. But I'm overjoyed - he just told me he was going to give me a big surprise - something I don't expect. I hope it's jewelry!"

Nero's mom?

[cavalier973]

OT:

Is this animal cruelty?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Cows are the dumbest creatures ever to inhabit the earth. We are doing them a favor by eating them.

[Virginian]

Sheep are dumber.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Do sheep shit where they drink?

[Virginian]

They drown in stock ponds, they eat poisonous weeds, they strangle themselves on fences.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Can we call it a draw? Anything that will drink where it shits has got to be in the top two.

[Virginian]

Well politician has to be number one.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Okay, you got me there.

[Corning]

They drown in stock ponds, they eat poisonous weeds, they strangle themselves on fences.

Something is to to be said about an animal that has no closely related wild counter parts. Not even feral ones.

In fact there is something to the theory that sheep are a product of Alien manipulation. How these animals ever existed before domestication seems impossible.

[Redmanfms]

Something is to to be said about an animal that has no closely related wild counter parts. Not even feral ones.

Uh, what?

There are several species of wild sheep, and they are quite hardy. I had a Dall sheep take a .30-06 through both lungs and then sprint up a rocky 65 degree hillside gaining nearly a thousand feet in elevation before finally dying.

[Corning]

Are Dall sheep even sheep or just an animal in north America that looks kind of sheep like no more closer related to sheep then goats are?

[Redmanfms]

I don't know how closely related Dall sheep are to the domestic breeds, but I do know that there are a couple domestic breeds that were created through interbreeding Ovis aries with wild mouflon or snow sheep (which is a close relative of the Dall sheep).

The fact that domestic O. aries can interbreed with wild cousins and not goats tells me the relationship is pretty close.

[Corning]

Horses are pretty dumb as well.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

You know who else thought he was doing a favor by killing unintelligent lifeforms?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Terminex?

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Louis Pasteur?

[Cytotoxic]

Morgentaler?

[Paul.]

Liquor?

[Almanian!]

Well, it's pretty clearly a good thing I was a "gamer" when "gaming" consisted of "Pong". I only killed ants and moths.

I played GTA once with my son. Damn near went on a shooting spree, but couldn't find the keys to the gun cabinet on account of the acid trip.

So...ban all the games. For the children...

[Reverendcaptain]

The problem I have with Reason's particular brand of libertarianism is that everything has to be black and white. For instance, Reason apparently is incensed that people would suggest certain video games are bad for children because Reason is damned determined to protect the right to playing video games. The problem is, you can believe that some video games are not good for children but adults should not be restricted from accessing them.

Of course people get up in arms about some slippery slope if you have restrictions but I grew up without access to a lot of things freely available to kids and it was ok.

So yeah, if you let your little kid play Grand Theft Auto, I think you're a pretty crappy parent.

[DesigNate]

There's a world of fucking difference between me not letting my daughter play GTA or God of War and the government wanting to outright van those games and blame them for all of societies woes. You might try to figure out what that difference is.

[Reverendcaptain]

Jesus Christ, reread my comment. I never said anything about banning games, in fact I said the opposite. What I said is that you can recognize the danger of letting children play certain inappropriate games while still being against any kind of censorship of games. Chill out.

[Calidissident]

Your comments definitely seemed to support legal restriction on purchases by underage kids.

[Reverendcaptain]

"So yeah, if you let your little kid play Grand Theft Auto, I think you're a pretty crappy parent."

That's the extent of my comment on restrictions on video games. And your response is exactly my point. If somebody dares raise the point that giving kids free reign on any video games is a pretty shitty way to raise kids then some people, especially some on the H&R comments, are freaking out about some imaginary censorship.

Believe it or not, it is possible to have a world where there exist reasonable restrictions on materials to children without banning anything.

[Paul.]

Well, given that this blog post is about agents of the state trying to ban the sale of [violent] video games, it's pretty fair that people would be skeptical of your 'yeah, but' argument.

[np]

Restrictions are still a type of ban.

I remember hanging out at game stores before the ESRB. Now, they're required to check IDs and are banned from selling to 16 year olds.

[Ted S.]

"So yeah, if you let your little kid play Grand Theft Auto, I think you're a pretty crappy parent."

"So yeah, if you teach your little kid to use the State's force to punish people doing things that don't harm anybody else but that he doesn't like, I think you're a pretty crappy parent."

[DesigNate]

"The problem is, you can believe that some video games are not good for children but adults should not be restricted from accessing them."

There is no other way to parse that in my mind than that children should be restricted from buying certain games. Which is in fact a type of ban.

[Reverendcaptain]

So, just to clarify, you believe that there should be no restrictions of any kind for any type of video game in any way?

So if somebody releases a video game called "Rape and Murder Your Sister and Mother" with explicit depictions of rape and murder of mothers and children, hell let's throw in babies, it should be freely available to anybody regardless of age?

Your inability to distinguish between age restrictions and bans is exactly the kind of black and white view I'm bringing up here. I don't know anybody, and I'm talking about people of every political stripe, who thinks it's ok to give their children free access to every movie and video game that is out there. They restrict them because they know that it would be detrimental to their kids' development.

I don't know if you aren't exposed to families or are just this lone voice in the woods but I would love to hear you convince parents that their kids should be able to play Grand Theft.

[Acosmist]

"If you're a parent and you allow your son or daughter to watch this...you're a lousy parent."?MSNBC host Ed Schultz, talking about Grand Theft Auto V"

Indeed, Reason ought to figure it out.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Abu Waleed, Islamist personality in the UK, on how to treat infidels:

"If a Muslim comes out on the day of 'Eid and sees an infidel with nice clothes, the infidel has to take his clothes off and give them to the Muslim. When an infidel walks down the street, he has to wear a red belt around his neck, he has to have his forehead shaved, and he has to wear two shoes that are different from one another. He is not allowed to walk on the pavement. He has to walk in the middle of the road, and he has to ride on a mule.

"This is only for adults, not for the children. You can see how Islam would make the child become a Muslim. The child growing up in a state of heresy would turn to Islam. Why? Because the child would be walking along with his dad, and would say: "Dad?" "Yes." "Why have you got your forehead shaved?" "I don't know, these Muslims make me do it." "Why can't you ride the animal like the Muslims, who ride like this? Why are you riding with both legs dangling on the side of the donkey?" "Why is it that every time a Muslim comes and asks you for your clothes, you give them?" "Why is it that every time he tells you to get down from the horse, you have to take it?"

http://www.breitbart.com/Breit.....em-Convert

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Well I'm sure the Hate Speech Police are already on their way.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Abe Lincoln had two mommies:

http://www.history.com/news/th.....ed-lincoln

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Anybody seen The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones?

Not bad (so far). Hot chicks with tattoos. A redhead. Cersei Lannister plays the main character's mother.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Ending marginal.

[jesse.in.mb]

My roommate watched it. I interpreted it as assault and rolled up a newspaper and batted her on the nose in retaliation.

[Paul.]

You and your roommate should just skip to getting married.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

The San Jacinto Battle Monument and Museum wants to get Santa Anna's artificial leg from the Illinois State Military Museum. Their efforts include an abortive petition to the White House

An Illinois soldier appropriated the leg during the Mexican war and later donated it to his state.

Larry Spasic, president of the San Jacinto Museum, tries to butter up the Illinoisians:

"For Illinois, he offered that he enjoys the Cubs and deep-dish pizza..."

http://www.dallasnews.com/news.....nts-it.ece

[Notorious G.K.C.]

The same story as recounted by the Chicago Tribune:

""[The leg is] not going anywhere," said curator Bill Lear. "It's going to stay.

""This is a centerpiece of the museum and a very important artifact to tell the story of Illinois soldiers and the sacrifice that they have made in service of this country."...

""We've lost soldiers in the Mexican war, as well," Lear said, "and Illinois soldiers were the ones who came across this and captured it."...

""We don't give artifacts away," Lear said. "Museums are in the public trust. Our soldiers, when they come back from war, they'll give us things. If we just turn around and give those away the first time someone gets upset about it, we might as well just close our doors.""

http://articles.chicagotribune.....ldiers-leg

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Meanwhile, some folks want to raise money on Kickstarter to do a graphic novel starring Santa Anna's flesh-and-bone leg, returned from the grave to save Mexico.

http://www.toonzone.net/2014/0.....ckstarter/

[Swiss Servator, CH yeah!]

That museum is on the grounds of Camp Lincoln (ILNG HQ) - you want that leg, come and get it!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Night kids.

[Cytotoxic]

Good news: South Africa's Zuma *claims* he will implement pro-business reforms. Perhaps he senses what will happen if he doesn't-it won't end well for him.

http://www.reuters.com/article.....UC20140510

Bad news: The 'pro-markets' BJP party of India apparently plans to ban beef export and cow slaughter on nakedly Hindu-theocratic grounds.

http://ca.reuters.com/article/.....0620140511

[RishJoMo]

Thats the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!

http://www.YourAnon.tk