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Cops Search Kid's Home After Tip About Pellet Gun Brought to Middle School

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Four students have been suspended after one of them brought a pellet gun to school in East Rockford, New York. School officials said they received no reports about the toy gun from students or staff on the Friday it was allegedly brought in. Instead, one student told mom about the incident over the weekend. The parent called the school principal, who called the police. Via The Journal News:

Officers searched the home of the student suspected to be in possession of the gun but found nothing. Police notified the district that it was not a real gun on Sunday; they made no arrests.

On Monday, the district identified the owner of the pellet gun, which was turned over to administrators, Fisher said.

"We take this very seriously," he said. "The message is very clear — this is totally unacceptable."

He said four students were suspended for five days and a superintendent's hearing is recommended. That could result in further disciplinary action based on the outcome of the investigation into the alleged phone threats.

Cops and school administrators are also investigating whether one of the two students was connected to alleged phone calls made to other students about using the toy gun.

One parent, Cassandra Edwards, said her son was among the five suspended students; he did not handle the toy gun but did talk back to the principal and, according to Edwards, was threatened by one of the other students. "These are all adolescents, children of color," Edwards said. "With all that's going on in our country with guns, we need to address this immediately." Hoplophobia notwithstanding, it's worth asking whether police searches of homes for toy guns has a more detrimental effect for young boys than playing with a pellet gun that might look real. And as for gun violence, it's almost certainly more productive and effective to target the "violence," or human behavioral, portion than the "gun," or inanimate tool, one.

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  1. “children of color”? Has this bloody stupid phrasing moved beyond the white liberal guilt-peddling class now?

    -jcr

    1. It’s funny how “colored people” is really no longer very acceptable (unless you are the NAACP), but “people of color” is. Isn’t that pretty much the same exact thing with the words moved around a bit?

      And aren’t pale beige to reddish pink colors too?

      It is also ridiculous to use it because putting everyone who is not white in to one category has no rational basis and I would imagine is insulting to people of all of the various and diverse races and ethnicity that get lumped together. Just say “black” if that is what you mean. No one is offended by “black”.

      1. We went from colored people to negro to black to African-American to people of color. What a looooooong strange trip it’s been.

        1. You seen any social media correspondence from the millenial generation? The word “nigga” is as ubiquitous among white and hispanic kids as the word “and”

        2. As illustrated thusly

      2. And aren’t pale beige to reddish pink colors too?

        For the record, some of us are an appropriately jaundiced shade of yellow resulting from our heavy drinking habits intended to dull the realities of this shit show.

      3. I work with an ~70yo guy who is slowly retiring, taking more and more days off. He once was a software consultant so he knows ERP systems in and out.

        He grew up in Detroit and, when telling some story about the past, will mention “The Colored Fella” or “My next door neighbor, who was colored”

        I ask him if he means red or blue.

    2. Like Children of the Corn – but more colorful?

  2. Officers searched the home of the student suspected to be in possession of the gun but found nothing. Police notified the district that it was not a real gun on Sunday.

    So they didn’t find it, but they’re sure it wasn’t real. That’s some good police work there, Lou.

  3. “These are all adolescents, children of color,” Edwards said. “With all that’s going on in our country with guns, we need to address this immediately.”

    Did she just say that darkies can’t be trusted with guns?

    1. “With all that’s going on in our country with guns, we need to address this immediately.”

      If she was really concerned, she would mean that we need to arm them.

    2. If I’m reading that right, one of the kid’s parents said that. So I think she’s saying, “You can’t trust us darkies with guns.”

    3. Yes. She said black kids are more likely to succumb to the will of the evil gunz.

      But she’s not racist. Or stupid.

      1. Its animism all the way down.

    4. Technically, I think she said pickaninnies can’t be trusted with guns.

  4. So what, someone said they saw a pellet gun, who tells someone else, who tells someone else, and that’s good enough to get a search warrant?

    Shit like this is the reason when I’m watching a show like Law and Order and there is the overly dramatic sequence between the DAs and the Judge emotionally wrestling with getting a search warrant that I can’t help but laugh my ass off.

    1. Even if someone had a photo of the thing at the school, is having a pellet gun at home illegal? If not, then how is any search justified regardless of the evidence.

      If the school wants to ban toy guns, fine. It’s not an unreasonable policy, I don’t think. But violating school rules should not be a police matter that subjects adults who had nothing to do with it to bullshit invasions of their home.

      1. I would imagine it is a crime to bring even fake or toy guns on school property. That is the “crime” here such as it is.

        1. I would imagine it is a crime to bring even fake or toy guns on school property.

          I’d sure like to see the statute. Many states have a definition of firearms that excludes pellet and BB guns. Its NY, so there’s probably on the books, but lets see it, whatever it is.

          I know I’m a lawyer so I think stuff like this is more important than other folks, but is it too much to ask that Reason track down the statute allegedly at issue, so we can either (a) mock the statute or (b) abuse the cops and school for chasing something that isn’t even a crime?

          1. In MA you have to have a firearms ID to possess a BB gun legally.

            1. In MA you have to have a firearms ID to possess a BB gun legally

              oh ffs.

      2. This times a quadrillion. Who the fuck would grant such a warrant?

        1. I would be surprised if they even had a warrant.

          1. While I didn’t RTFA, there was no mention of a warrant in the bit quoted by Reason.

        2. Who the fuck would grant such a warrant?

          Pretty much any judge in the nation from the looks of it these days using the “For the Children” clause of the FYTW Amendment that the Supreme Court has been gradually writing into the Constitution.

      3. Obviously they were going to dust the gun for traces of school.

  5. “These are all adolescents, children of color,”

    So, what now?

  6. These are all adolescents, children of color,” Edwards said. “With all that’s going on in our country with guns, we need to address this immediately.”

    So the principal believes black people can’t be trusted with guns. Isn’t that pretty racist?

    1. That was one of the kid’s parents who said that, not the principal.

      1. Okay. Still, WTF is that even supposed to mean then?

        1. I think she’s saying her kid and his schoolmates have to be watched carefully because they’re all black and might start shooting people. If that’s not what she meant, I can’t figure out any other way to interpret it.

          1. I think she’s arguing that people of color cannot be held morally responsible for any decisions they make because LEGACY OF TEH SLAVERIEZ!1!1!1!!!

            1. Joking aside, if there’s a group of people who can’t be held responsible for their actions, isn’t that a good argument for severely restricting their rights? This is tantamount to saying blacks are no different from children or loonies or retards. It’s the sort of thing a eugenicist would say to excuse his plans to sterilize a whole group of people.

          2. It’s pretty much “There is a sub-cultural problem that I cannot publicly acknowledge except in the most euphemistic terms without having the racial grievance mob descend on my doorstep so I will put it this way..”

        2. I don’t think she knew what she was saying. Listen to any news broadcast – many people are incoherent. And that includes those being interviewed who aren’t members of OGL’s administration.

  7. Guns are bad news. I caught my Glock trying to bypass the parental filters on my laptop the other day.

    1. This all started with teh plastick pistols….

      BAD. ACTORS.

  8. So, in order, fuck:

    1) The principal for calling the cops
    2) The parent who called the principal
    3) The cops for executing the search
    4) The judge who authorized it

    1. 5) Public schools for being starter prisons

  9. Started to post this on Facebook, but as I tried to write a header I got less and less worked up about it. Not because the whole thing doesn’t stink, but–impossibly–because it stinks so much less than a lot of the other recent gunz-in-school incidents in the news. No batshit overreaction to a pop-tart or a pointed finger. No ten-year-olds getting carted off to the pokey over doodles in their notebooks. They didn’t even bring in a SWAT team or shoot any dogs.

    Really, aside from the search warrant that should never have issued (they did get a warrant, right?) there’s not a whole lot here, except maybe the total lack of self-awareness of the liberals earnestly warning us all to be scared shitless at ‘children of color’ having access to an airgun.

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