Nick Gillespie on a Very Special Tax Day Episode of Stossel

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Reason.com's editor-in-chief Nick Gillespie will be appearing on a special Tax Day episode of Stossel, hosted by John Stossel, tonight at 9:00p.m. ET on the Fox Business Network.

Gillespie'll be talking about sin taxes to come as well as those of days gone by. How weird do they get? Check out a short snippet below:

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[Fist of Etiquette]

And I'm supposed to dust off Team Stossel Live Blog for this?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Have I mentioned I like Gillespie?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Not Stossel?

[kibby]

Can't a person like both?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Huh. Never considered that.

[RannedPall]

Stossel's mustache and Gillespie's jacket should join forces and start their own show, and then have GILMORE on once and a while to offer no-nonsense fashion advice.

[Derpetologist]

Stossel and the Jacket should be combined in a teleporter to create the ultimate libertarian organism.

[RannedPall]

A physical representation of the NAP!!1!11!

[RannedPall]

Shit, once in* a while. Rookie mistake.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"Actor CHRIS O'DOWD is convinced following a religion will eventually become as offensive and unacceptable as racism....

""There's going to be a turning point where it's going to be like racism. You know, 'You're not allowed to say that weird s**t! It's mad! And you're making everybody crazy!'. And you know, now America can't have a president that doesn't say he believes in God. So we're f**ked! Like, they f**ked everything! You wanna go and live in your weird cult and talk about a man who lives in a cloud, you do that, but don't. I mean, you really think that Barack Obama believes in God? No way!""

http://www.express.co.uk/news/.....ebook-like

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Epicurus, Robert Ingersoll, H.L. Mencken, and Christopher Hitchens have all died. Thank, uh, science that there's still Chris O'Dowd!

[Derpetologist]

Yes, and then he will smash the skulls of his enemies and eat their entrails on his tummy!

Hail Science! Hail Science! Hail Science!

[Notorious G.K.C.]

mmm...entrails.

Alternate joke: Much better than Chemtrails.

[kibby]

Dammit, Chris. Stop ruining yourself for me.

[lap83]

"Sh*t Crazy F*cked! It's Mad! Lives in a cloud! No Way!"

That's what I read up there. For a second, I thought they had invented a frat boy robot that spouts douchey pseudo-philosophical catchphrases. I guess I'm not the only one who doesn't find that attractive.

[antisocial-ist]

He's right, we should force all people to believe in nothing but hard science like global warming, the food pyramid, and whatever other bullshit someone can make up to get a big government check. Also, we could learn a great deal about forming coherent sentences from this latter day Aristotle. Finally, who the fuck is Chris O'dowd, and why should I give a shit?

[Irish]

Progressive confesses to rape on Twitter.

[Irish]

Illinois Democrat mocks colleague for only being half-black.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"Hey, why are you all putting the palms of your hands over your faces? Are you feeling dizzy or something?"

[Irish]

MSNBC host: When you think about it, isn't the real victim of the IRS scandal the IRS?

"In my mind, the IRS, who was trying to get this out, they were the ones that have been actually targeted in this whole investigation," Wagner asserted.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"Show some sympathy, they'll have to spend all night scrubbing that blood off their jackboots!"

[RannedPall]

Yeah, blame those teabaggers, their views made it simply unpossible for the IRS to not target them. Their hands were tied.

[Palin's Buttplug]

See below - it turns out that Issa and Boehner sicked the IRS on the teabaggers.

[Jordan]

*Facepalm*. Learn to read. They directed the IG's investigation, not the IRS.

[Palin's Buttplug]

FUD, bud.

[RannedPall]

Shit, I can read, but the way that article was worded and contructed, it really sounded like what buttplug was crowing about. In any case, abolish the IRS.

[RannedPall]

So, easy solution:abolish the IRS. That way neither team red nor blue can sick it on anyone.

[Tman]

"I will bring you $100,000 cash tomorrow if you show me a whole bunch of whites that adopted blacks in Alabama," -Alvin Holmes.

Bet called, lawmaker loses but refuses to pay up. Changes bet.

"I commend her and her husband for having a lot of mixed children, taking them in and taking care of them but I can guarantee you one thing- you can count the number of white families in Alabama that are going to do that,"

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"Families are created in all different ways, in all different colors and all different abilities. We love our children. I don't look at them and see my African American child or my child with Downs Syndrome. We love them all the same,"..."Joy Portis told WSFA. "Life is precious. We are all created in the image of Christ and whether your skin color or your ability or disability, their life is valued and precious and we need to be here to open our homes when they're not wanted."

Just wait for this to drop into the memory hole, and they'll be back to saying that the ignorant teathuglican rednecks are such racist hypocrites who don't care for children after they're born, etc.

[Virginian]

"I will bring you $100,000 cash tomorrow if you show me a whole bunch of whites that adopted blacks in Alabama," he said then. "I will go down there and mortgage my house and get it cash in $20 bills and bring it to you in a little briefcase."

God what a piece of shit.

[Tejicano]

I would have asked him to put a finite number to "a whole bunch" and then found evidence for double that.

But I guess a POS like that would then back off from the "one drop rule" and say the kids I found evidence for were not black enough.

[Palin's Buttplug]

The Treasury inspector general (IG) whose report helped drive the IRS targeting controversy says it limited its examination to conservative groups because of a request from House Republicans.

A spokesman for Russell George, Treasury's inspector general for tax administration, said they were asked by House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) "to narrowly focus on Tea Party organizations."

The inspector general's audit found that groups seeking tax-exempt status with "Tea Party" and "patriots" in their name did receive extra attention from the IRS, with some facing years of delay and inappropriate questions from the agency

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/on-th.....z2yXDc7gYf
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Ratfucker in the woodpile!

[Jordan]

Another fake rebuttal:

On June 27, 2013, responding to letters from Rep. Sander Levin, the ranking member on the Ways and Means Committee, Inspector General J. Russell George's office released a letter to Levin about the scrutiny of groups with "progressive" in their names.[107][108][109][110] Contradicting earlier claims of George's office, the letter acknowledged that he knew that the word "progressive" had appeared in IRS screening documents.[109][110] However, he said that the "Progressives" criteria was on a part of the "Be On the Look Out" (BOLO) spreadsheet labeled "Historical", and, unlike other BOLO entries, didn't say how to refer flagged cases. While he had many sources confirming the use of "Tea Party" and related criteria described in the report, including employee interviews and e-mails, he found no indication in any of those other materials that "Progressives" was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for political campaign intervention.[107] The letter further stated that out of the 20 groups applying for tax-exempt status whose names contained "progress" or "progressive", 6 had been chosen for more scrutiny as compared to all of the 292 groups applying for tax-exempt status whose names contained "tea party", "patriot", or "9/12".

[Palin's Buttplug]

The Tea Party was a target no question. But at whose behest? Is Issa protecting Rove and the GOP bigshits by fiddling with the IRS? Is Russell George lying?

[Derpetologist]

I have a hard time trusting a minor government official who has a spokesman.

[Jordan]

It's in the headline, for fucks sake:

Audit of IRS actions limited to Tea Party groups at GOP request

Learn to read!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Cavoto is sick of both parties?

[Fist of Etiquette]

A very special tax day episode can only mean one thing: someone's going to lose their tax flower.

[Raven Nation]

Damn. Can't unread that.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Stossel flew to DC just to film that 2 second location shot.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Why does Stossel get his own announcer to introduce him, and the Independents can't get one?

[Derpetologist]

I'm more concerned that announcer sounds like a grown-up version of Casey Miller:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktytnQHvlww

[Bobarian]

Because they can't get Kennedy to stay quiet long enough to let someone else read an intro?

[Fist of Etiquette]

You can put that all on a USB drive now, so, progress.

[RannedPall]

Saw a guy with a shirt on today that read, with a picture of a USB drive on on it: "I pull out"

[Fist of Etiquette]

Teve Torbes will be up next to rebut this.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Soon the tax code will be fairer!

Or as Chiang Kai Shek was accustomed to saying, next year we take over the mainland!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Steve Forbes' war on tax accountants.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Stoss wants to be the only one with a house.

[Irish]

CHLAMYDIA! CHLAMYDIA EVERYWHERE!

[Rev Match]

I just stumbled across this. Does it constitute a Stossel live thread? If so, kudos.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Does Estonia have even one aircraft carrier?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

It *is* an aircraft carrier.

I don't even know what that means, except it's very small.

[Derpetologist]

Their main form of defense is circle-dancing.

[Raven Nation]

Airstrip Two.

[Fist of Etiquette]

They're not going to let go of the income tax easily, so let's get rid of it. ARE YOU EVEN LISTENING TO YOURSELF, STEVE?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Bob's comb-over is everyone's business.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Stop prattling on about taxes and get back to finishing Game of Thrones.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

I saw this earlier and just got it on the rerun. Well done.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Take away the tax code and you take away their ability to buy votes and engineer society!

[Fist of Etiquette]

YOU CAN'T TAKE IT WITH YOU. When you die, your wealth should go to its true owner, the government.

[Derpetologist]

I had a prog tell me with a straight face that since the government makes money, all money and wealth belong to the government.

[RannedPall]

Was his face still straight after you beat it in with a pipe? Er, a pipe made by Koch industries, of course.

[Tejicano]

I would have done what a buddy of mine did to an acquaintance of his - asked to see his phone then deleted his own phone number from that acquaintance's phone list, saying "I don't need friends as stupid as you are".

[Derpetologist]

It's pretty easy to spout authoritarians- they use the word "we" a lot.

The French Revolution was the result of punishing taxes on the poor.

Handy, is there something you'd like to say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhJlGV2s_k

[Derpetologist]

*spot

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Have her on to discuss her taxes:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pi.....taxes.html

[lap83]

They already asked, she's not a libertarian.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Congress shall make no law benefitting one individual or group over another.

[Derpetologist]

I believe that is covered by the prohibition on bills of attainder.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"We upped our game, now up yours!"

Hasn't gotten old yet.

[Derpetologist]

All the people in that real estate sound like they were recently shot with tranquilizer darts.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

The Fonz!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Your values are your most precious possession.

[Fist of Etiquette]

It's just a little nudge. What are you complaining about?

[Derpetologist]

A little nudge can send you over a big cliff.

[Rev Match]

It's just a little nudge. What are you complaining about?

Santa Claus 2. That is all.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

That guy sounds like Elmer Fudd, the Life of Brian Pontius Pilate, and the guy from Big Bang Theory. Sorry.

[Derpetologist]

rhoticism

What kind of sadist picked that name?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"Womney wanks higher than any in Wome!"

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"Womney wanks higher than any in Wome!"

[Rev Match]

Unfortunately, very little (if anything) is free of government coercion.

[Irish]

France bans people from answering work emails after hours.

[Derpetologist]

This sums it up well:

http://demotivators.despair.co.....ivator.jpg

[Fist of Etiquette]

Barack Obama wants to disrupt bird migration patterns!

[Fist of Etiquette]

(And ruin Ted Kennedy's view.)

[Derpetologist]

Wind power: The most advanced technology of the 12th century.

[Rev Match]

Stossel, I sin every week. WINNING!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I wike this guy, but his speech impediment dwives me nuts.

[Derpetologist]

Just b-b-b-b-be thankful S-s-s-stossel no longer s-s-s-stutters.

[RannedPall]

Well shit, this thread seems to be picking up nicely, I am (again) drinking Ritual:Extra Red, gotta get drunk before I head to my white collar crime class and declare that insider trading shouldn't be illegal.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Did you pay your taxes? They need to waise wevenue on your Witual Extwa Wed.

Oh, Lord, I am so cruel.

[RannedPall]

"More tumbleweed, Lisa?" "No thanth, I'm thill finithing my thithles."

[Fist of Etiquette]

Professor Clark Kent.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

They bring good things to light.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Mask-slippage:

Ghost_of_Bastiat ElDooderino ? an hour ago
I doubt voters want to have their personal business screwed with by liberals who then have the audacity to condescend them by saying they're too stupid to make an intelligent consumer choice.
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collardgreen Ghost_of_Bastiat ? an hour ago
What's stupid is forcing people to treat health care as a consumer choice instead of a human right.
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Ghost_of_Bastiat collardgreen ? an hour ago
You can morally grandstand as much as you like, that doesn't change the reality of economics.

Christ, why not centralize food production since if health care is a right then surely so must the even more basic need to eat?
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ElDooderino Ghost_of_Bastiat ? 39 minutes ago
Another selfish, self centered, "me,me,me" libertarian who attaches a dollar sign to EVERYTHING. Fuck the "reality of economics"...you have no clue about reality in general.

collardgreen Ghost_of_Bastiat ? an hour ago
And you can continue with your head in the sand as the rest of the civilized world agrees with me.

edit: And access to nutritious food is a human right, GoB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...
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ElDooderino collardgreen ? an hour ago
Co-signed!! You're health is NOT a commodity for a profit to be made from!!

Still no good explanation for why profiting from sickness is bad but not hunger.

[Derpetologist]

Are all products and services the result of desire for something you don't have?

[Derpetologist]

*Aren't

[Rev Match]

I just experience something similar. I posed questions about a few events relative to the ACA. I didn't do so terribly pointedly, for fear of not getting the truth. I managed to get them to admit to being single payer advocates. Also, they seemed quite content with the fiat actions of the Pres. with regard to the ACA. Thinking I may start an interesting and entertaining debate, I closed by telling them what I really thought. They only responded that I was wrong they didn't care about my opinion. No argument or anything. Though, I can be glad that obnoxious name-calling did not ensue.

[Derpetologist]

That's about the most honesty and courtesy you can ever expect.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

What's really telling is if you criticize Obamacare the most common response is not a rebuttal of the point you made, but rather a screed about how evil Republicans are and how they don't have a plan so you should just up and go along.

To which I say if the choice is between following a guy who's plan is to run head first into brick wall again and again or follow a guy who doesn't have an idea, I think I'll go with the second option.

[Rev Match]

...but rather a screed about how evil Republicans are...

This was what was most conveyed. They were awfully concerned that Republicans in some places were not apt about expanding Medicaid. I pointed out that medicaid is 'welfare' and the point of the ACA was 'insurance'. *crickets*

To which I say if the choice is between following a guy who's plan is to run head first into brick wall again and again or follow a guy who doesn't have an idea, I think I'll go with the second option.

This is good. I'll have to remember it.

[Derpetologist]

Team Blue wants to drive into a brick wall at 60 mph.

Team Red wants to drive into a brick wall at 50 mph.

Bipartisanship is driving into a brick wall at 55 mph.

[Coeus]

Also, they seemed quite content with the fiat actions of the Pres. with regard to the ACA.

Yet the same delays pushed legislatively in Congress? Republickan obktrickinsm!!11!!

[Calidissident]

"ElDooderino collardgreen ? an hour ago
Co-signed!! You're health is NOT a commodity for a profit to be made from!!"

By this logic, all jobs related to health and medicine should be unpaid

[kibby]

Well I would certainly feel safer if the surgeon tasked to save my life was making no money!

[PH2050]

Well I would certainly feel safer if the surgeon tasked to save my life was making no money!

I also prefer my surgeons to operate solely "for the love of the game"

[Fist of Etiquette]

If you're a small guy then maybe you should get big enough to send lobbyists to DC to buy yourself some politicians. Even Stephen.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

These safe tubs should be a human right, not based on profit!

[RannedPall]

If everything is a human right, we can eliminate the entire profit incentive. Genius.
/prog

[Fist of Etiquette]

Look at that graphic. And you were worried about the NSA tracking you!

[Fist of Etiquette]

"Now let's go to the AccuWeather 5-Day Forecast..."

[Notorious G.K.C.]

See, it's *money* that walks, and BS that talks!

[Fist of Etiquette]

How money walks dot com is currently not accessible. Stoss has a bigger audience than I thought.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Huh? The weather in SD is awesome.

[Derpetologist]

And if you to Mt Rushmore really late at night, sometimes heads talk.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

230 days of sunshine a year.

[Derpetologist]

Who could have possibly guessed that high tax areas would be losing tax payers hand over fist?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

No wonder that in prog circles "emigre" is a dirty word. See the French and Cuban revolutions.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Stossel's three sheets to the wind right now.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

The Fonz of freedom!

(2 in one show)

[Derpetologist]

Libertayyyyyyyy.....

[Fist of Etiquette]

Okay, get ready for SIX SOLID MINUTES of Gillespie.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Nick you will move down a notch on my belt if you don't light up a Marlboro and crack open that bottle of Jack Daniels during this segment.

[Fist of Etiquette]

They save that for the aftershow stream.

[Derpetologist]

A real libertarian would sell them on the street to profit from the tax difference.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The tax should pay for the death panels!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Fatties are a minority group? Not in my part of the country.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Those cigarettes weren't brought in illegally, they fell off a truck!

[Rev Match]

"...fair laws that apply equally to everybody."

If only laws, especially foundational ones, had a concrete meanings and meant what they said...

Yea, I can dream too, Gillespie

[Fist of Etiquette]

They should tax regret.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Does that mean I generate revenue every time I sleep with a woman?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Only the ugly or crazy ones.

[kibby]

Excuse you?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Was wondering when you'd chime in.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Harry Reid reminds us that you're choosing to pay your taxes voluntarily.

[Derpetologist]

Whiskey Rebellion
Rum Insurrection
Vodka Insurgency
Tequila Uprising
Gin Riot
Saki Turmoil

[Fist of Etiquette]

Zima Slapfight

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Beer brouhaha

[Derpetologist]

Bud Light Pillow Fight

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Absinthe Awakening.

[RannedPall]

PBR FUBAR

[Fist of Etiquette]

Six minutes. Nailed it.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Now they're running one of those move-to-NY ads that was denounced on the program!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Stoss isn't against taking their money.

[Derpetologist]

Basically, they're paying Stossel to make fun of them.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Stoss just killed another stagehand.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You shouldn't mix alcohol with the speed you just took, John.

[Fist of Etiquette]

AH! Early Dobbs.

[Rev Match]

FAKE. SCANDALS.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Ah. Not Lou Dobbs.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

The 10 Most Boring Places in California

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Aaahh, English Lou Dobbs replacement!

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

Some of the comments on this thread are just full of derp. The guys are science smart, but that seems to be where it ends.

Twominds
April 7, 2014 at 5:24 PM
Special interest groups and lobbies trying to influence government are part of capitalism, always have been and always will be. It's one of the forces they bring to bear, just like competition on price or quality. A free market without those groups is a fancy, nothing more.

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

Eino
April 8, 2014 at 12:02 AM
Rod Adams wrote:

"With all due respect, I disagree that nuclear would have had the success it had during the 1960s and 1970s without a huge push from the federal government."

Darn near everything seems to be like that if you dig a bit. Free land helped build the railroads, the nation and the steel industry. Cheap power out west helped the aluminum industry and probably the aircraft industry. The cheap power came from federal programs. The building of the highways sure helped the car industry. Military spending has spawned multiple industries including the nukes.

I think people used to be smarter about such stuff. I think if ole Adam Smith was around today he'd talk about more than the invisible hand, he'd promote the visible hand of an active government with policies that leads to prosperity for most rather than a few. Socialism? Who cares what you call it if it works?

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

So much dirp that it's tough to read.

[Derpetologist]

I wonder if it would make a dent to point out that the government was far smaller in those days.

[kbolino]

Free land! Don't mind the dead Indians!

Progressives have got to be the worst "allies" you could ever have. They'll throw you under the bus whenever it suits their purposes.

[RishJoMo]

This makes a lot of sense dude. WOw.

http://www.GotsDatAnon.tk