Tonight on The Independents: Red Meat Wednesday, With Libertarian Porn Star/Student Belle Knox, Greg Gutfeld, Julie Borowski, Greg Lukianoff, and More!

Red Meat Wednesday on The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT) usually means too many libertarians chasing too few segments. Tonight is no different.

Kicking off the show is Fox News double-host and rejected Reason intern Greg Gutfeld (read our interviews with him from October 2009 and March 2013), talking about his spanking new book, Not Cool: The Hipster Elite and Their War on You.

Then the Party Panel, consisting of "Progressive Messaging Expert and all around good guy" Richard Fowler and beloved Internet libertarian Julie Borowski of FreedomWorks, talks about the social-issue split between Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), the Democratic Party's weak presidential bench, and NASA's goofy study predicting civilizational collapse.

The 18-year-old porn actress, Duke University freshman, and self-described libertarian Belle Knox stops by for an interview. Foundation for Individual Rights in Education President Greg Lukianoff comments on the outrageous case of a UC Santa Barbara Feminist Studies professor seizing an anti-abortion protester's sign, calling her a "terrorist," then pushing her. Other topics that may or may not come under discussion include tequila, Hillary Clinton, Bronies, and March Madness vasectomies.

Did you miss Kennedy's insane interview with Akon last night? Here it is:

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

Watch The Independents but blockade live blog! WHO'S WITH ME?

[Steve G]

This comment is awaiting moderation.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

"Niedermayer....DEAD!"

[Bobarian]

C'mon did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

The 18-year-old porn actress, Duke University freshman, and self-described libertarian Belle Knox stops by for an interview.

Be it noted for what follows:

THIS IS WHY THERE ARE NO FEMALE LIBERTARIANS!!!!

???

[BiMonSciFiCon]

This is also why Virginia Postrel hates us.

[BigT]

They are trolling for more material for the 2 minutes of hate from Nikki and the other female commentators.

[Bam!]

This guy looks familiar. Who knew he had such range.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

What is on the menu tonight?
I'm starting out with a Corona Familiar with dinner, and then I'm going to try Sam Adams' Rebel IPA. If that isn't any good, I'm switching to my backup, Lagunitas Maximus.

[DH]

Red Stripe for me.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Red STRIIIIPPPEEE!!!

I hope you're having that with some callalou and pelau.

[DH]

After a google search, I wish I was. It looks delicious.

[Ted S.]

Hooray beer!

[BigT]

Red Stripe - kind of bland IMHO

[DH]

I think thats why I like it. It goes down easy with anything. I can drink it anytime and be satisfied.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Starting with a Red Bull and vodka.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Jesus. You going out afterward?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Nope, just need a jolt.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Firestone Union Jack IPA.

[BigT]

Left Hand Nitro Milk Stout, then some home brewed milk stouts

[GILMORE]

matt will be wearing the red shirt-red tie?

I've started to decode a pattern here. I suppose it should have been obvious. I guess its what makes Friday the 'wild card' evening.

[montana mike]

You sure are a fashionista, I don't really get the fetish, NTTAWWT.

[Ted S.]

I already had two glasses of wine, if you couldn't tell from the quality of my comments.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Not enough. You haven't even mentioned your blog.

[RannedPall]

Okay, I cut off my slauson and there's no blood, did I do it right?

[Bobarian]

Four Roses, with a splash of water.

In a paper cup, because I'm too lazy to get a real rocks glass.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I had a Czech lager Samson I never tried lined up.

[Lord at War]

Fuckin' amateurs.

"Valu-Rite" Vodka(h/t AOS)- $13+ for a half-gallon.

I can get absolutely shit-faced for under $5/day.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Then the Party Panel, consisting of "Progressive Messaging Expert and all around good guy" Richard Fowler and beloved Internet libertarian Julie Borowski of FreedomWorks

So a professional progressive bullshit artist. Is he the kind of guy that though Pajama Boy and having all those GIFs would make Obamacare cool?

But at least Borowski is cool.

[Irish]

Then the Party Panel, consisting of "Progressive Messaging Expert and all around good guy" Richard Fowler and beloved Internet libertarian Julie Borowski of FreedomWorks, talks about the social-issue split between Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), the Democratic Party's weak presidential bench, and NASA's goofy study predicting civilizational collapse.

What's the point of having a 'party panel' when it's 4 libertarians against one progressive? Why not just rename party panel 'The Circle Jerk?'

[Heroic Mulatto]

Why not just rename party panel 'The Circle Jerk?'

Wouldn't that be more of a bukkake?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!

[Heroic Mulatto]

Independents assembling.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

How long have you been keeping that in your pocket?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Isn't that what you do to entertain yourself as you wait for the show to begin?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I do now.

[Raven Nation]

To quote Krusty the Klown when he saw his first East German cartoon:

"What the hell was that?"

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

In case Belle Knox wants to consider a more challenging career:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Also Matt, Bell Knox's Twitter feed is very NSFW. That should be noted.

[Steve G]

10th seed in he Politico regional, bitches!

[BigT]

First match of the libertarians VS the hard-core Dawkins atheists - I'm rooting for both teams! What to do!

[Irish]

You can tell Deadspin's political biases since the answer is obviously progressives and will always be progressives. Go type anything even moderately disagreeing with someone at Raw Story. It is the funniest thing on Earth.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Yeah, I post on Raw Story under the handle 'Ghost_of_Bastiat'. They can swear me out and make the most profane comments at me but I ended up getting a warning from a moderator for taking a snarky tone with one obtuse idiot.

[The hand that whips the orphan]

Indeed, that was a fun little time we had the other day on there with the Marcotte story. That ended up dragging on till Monday evening before the last prog finally hurled her final turds at me.

[kibby]

Are the comments less face-slamming-into-keyboard-ly frustrating now?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Allegedly.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Not for me.

[Rich]

Testing.

[Rich]

Testing.

[Rich]

Testing.

[Rich]

Testing.

[kibby]

Clearly not for you.

[Mint Berry Crunch]

the Democratic Party's weak presidential bench

You mean, aside from Hillary Clinton? Who would easily beat any Republican you can name?

[GILMORE]

Also = I insist that someone tell gutfeld that Hipsters are politically irrelevant, empty pi?atas

Except the ur-hipster, McGuinness, of course.

[GILMORE]

Who else ends up watching 'What's the Deal Neil?' on Cavuto when they really don't want to?

(one hand raised)

[Bam!]

Aye.

(Am I the only one still having commenting issues?)

[Bam!]

Hoops. If you're not going to put effort into your earrings, just leave them at home.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hoops and St. Pat's Day green?

[DH]

Bumbling Biden. How about Mumbling Bumbling Shotgun Joe Biden?

[BigT]

I'm going to be different ... just like everyone else!!

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Is using the word 'cool' still....cool?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Successful comments are still few and far between, so we should all govern our commenting. Like with oxygen for astronauts trapped at the bottom of the ocean, we all need to stretch out our commenting to make it last. Only say the most important thoughts coming into our heads.

[kibby]

I'm glad nobody here has to worry about being cool.

[montana mike]

I was born cool, kibby.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Matt got rid off his tie to be cool.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Don't worry Greg, Reason just uses its interns and then...

[Raven Nation]

Dumps them like they're Bill Schulz?

[Sevo]

Or Bull Schilz?

[Byte Me]

I wonder if anyone on The Independents will admit to having seen any of Belle Knox's work.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

You know Kennedy has.

[BigT]

I checked out about 1:34 of one of her artistic projects. She was smoking a pink cigar.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Admit? Kemle is behind the POV camera!

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Definitely Kennedy. Kmele is too faithful to his wife to watch it and Matt, well Matt is into something....darker.

[Irish]

Kmele is too faithful to his wife to watch it and Matt, well Matt is into something....darker.

Referring to Kmele as 'something darker' is pretty fucking racist.

[flye]

+1 virtual anime bride

[Fist of Etiquette]

Isn't this the same outfit Gutfeld had on last time he was on?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Oh. No. The squirrels are back.

And Obama is not cool.

At all.

He tries to much.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

'too.'

[Bam!]

I'm not sure Obama tries too much. I think his support try to hard to see him as cool.

[BigT]

Obama is the ultimate 'cool' product. No substance, all marketing. Think virtual iPhone.

[Bobarian]

I was thinking 'virtual Zune'

[BigT]

Except Zune failed. Obama is Prez, like it or not, he succeeded in the popularity contest.

[Sevo]

"And Obama is not cool.
At all.
He tries to much."

No, I haven't seen it; wife mentioned a (obviously posed) image of Obo selecting brackets!
How, man-on-the-street! How slimy!

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I don't know. Classical liberals managed to bind together when it mattered.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Kennedy's holding up your book. That means the doorknob is about to hit you on the asshole.

[Soros' Wank-noose]

Save it for Belle!!!!

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Must be one of those ADA compliant doorknobs.

[SIV]

So "Hitlery" is as bad as calling everyone who opposes Obama's policies a racist?

"The right does it too" indeed

[SIV]

Heartbreakers! Best Independents music bumber yet! RIP Johnny

[SIV]

"bumper"

[SIV]

Get Off the Phone

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

Does this work yet?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I think Kennedy needs darker lipstick.

For contrast.

[Bobarian]

Or maybe she just needs lips?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

That asshole Torcello who wants to criminalize deniers is worse than not cool. He's a piece of shit.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

It appears our bane is back.

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

I haven't been able to post anything for the last couple days until today! The heavens have opened and the light has shined down on me! ME!!

[Sevo]

Needs moar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIQ9A28XapQ

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Nice use of a pigeon thrower.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Poke the base.

That's what she said.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Kmele interrupts Kennedy's Bob Dylan reference.

[kibby]

Payback for the fact that he can hardly get a word in edgewise.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Kennedy should just go full-on debate moderator and vocalize the amount of time she's going to give Kmele, Matt, and the guests.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Julie wants a small government orgy.

[SIV]

Julie B!

[GILMORE]

My livestream is kinda fuzzy but I'm kinda wanting to party with julie

[Heroic Mulatto]

Nice to see she kept the crazy eyes at home.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Jury's still out on that.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Shorter Fowler: U CAN HAZ FREE SHIT will continue to be the Democratic line.

[Byte Me]

OMG, IT'S JULIE BOROWSKI!

She's cute as hell and is about to give a smack-down to a commie. (I hope)

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Her? Uh, she's nice enough but I've never found her videos that funny.

[SIV]

They're educational videos.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Millennials want more government or less government? I seem to be mixed getting anecdotal facts here.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

No.

It's not.

[Bam!]

Until your rocket launches are carbon-neutral, shut the fuck up, NASA.

[Fist of Etiquette]

NASA can't see the horde for the zombies.

[BigT]

NASA - a big f*ing govt agency with lots of toys looking for a purpose. I say SHUT IT DOWN.

[kibby]

Matt, please come speak in all of my history classes ever, thanks.

[GILMORE]

Wait a second... I know that chick! She does a libertoid thing on youtube. She looks .... nicer.... here.

[Bam!]

Fox News has the best makeup department in cable TV.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Ding, ding, ding.

I couldn't place her.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Kmele Foster = Nwabudike Morgan

You know it's true.

[Jensen]

Human behaviour is economic behaviour after all.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

So uh, I'll just say that Belle Knox has the body of a 14 year old and thus is not my thing at all.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Big boobs don't age well. Not a concern at your age, but it is at mine...

[Heroic Mulatto]

He's not proposing marriage. Just one night in Bangkok BelleKnox.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

I'm not saying I would say no to her, but she's not at all my idea of what a woman's body should look like.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I agree wholeheartedly.

[Bobarian]

You've been saying that ever since Chris Hansen caught you in the kitchen with a six-pack of wine coolers.

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

China just announced it is upping their schedule drastically for the design of a Molten Salt Nuclear Reactor. They have moved the completion date for the schedule by 15 years to 2024. They are claiming that their smog issue is getting out of control and need a drastic game changing solution.

I don't know if I believe China can do it, but if they actual produce something that works, this may be a game changer for nuclear power.

Article mentions using thorium for the fuel, but I guarantee it will run on low enriched uranium if they actual get something built.

[JeremyR]

Good.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

I don't know why you make that guarantee. If you want to burn LEU, then build a CANDU. The MSRE ran initially at 33% enrichment. Design calculations were run at that level of enrichment and higher:

Uranium
composition
(atom %)
U234 1 1 0.3
U235 93 93 35
u236 1 1 0.3
u238 5 5 64.4

http://web.ornl.gov/info/repor.....043171.pdf

[Rufus J. Firefly]

When is Belle gonna aim to beat the gangbang record to raise funds for Reason?

[SIV]

HITLERY

[Fist of Etiquette]

Tonto in the desert? That's why Welch brought up Warren first. Kennedy planted that thought in his head.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Schweitzer IS NOT a libertarian.

[SIV]

All Matt's money is on Jared Polis now.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Elizabeth Warren? The make believe Indian, huh.

Awful. Scary.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A Foster endorsement? That's a big fucking deal.

[kibby]

I would adore a Biden presidency. It would be endlessly amusing!

[SIV]

Did Matt use the "l"-word for Brian Schweitzer?

Another failed Great Liberaltarian Hope

[montana mike]

Schweitzer only liberatarian cred is against gun control, and that's because if you espouse gun grabbing you are dead politically here.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

What about that San Antonio mayor? Young, dark, Latin. He's more Obama than Obama.

[SIV]

Has he learned Spanish yet?

[GILMORE]

test

[Sevo]

Copy that fashion critique onto a word doc before you let it get eaten by the squrilz!

[Byte Me]

OT: Justice Department announces $1.2 billion settlement with Toyota

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration never found defects in electronics or software in Toyota cars, which had been targeted as a possible cause.

(emphasis added)

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure.....latestnews

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Shakedown?

[Virginian]

Not sure what else to call it.

I brought it up today to someone, and they were really really offended that I called it a bribe. Except that's exactly what it is.

If the money were going to the customers who were victimized by the alleged manufacturing defects, I wouldn't call it that. But the government is taking 1.2 billion dollars from Toyota in exchange for not prosecuting them. That's just a straight up bribe.

[Sevo]

"But the government is taking 1.2 billion dollars from Toyota in exchange for not prosecuting them."

And for not prosecuting them for not doing anything wrong.

[Big Chief]

Yeah, this stuff is really starting to get to me. The gubmint isn't even pretending they're anything but a D.C. based Mafia anymore.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Booker? Two years in the Senate, relatively empty suit, of course means presidential material.

[Bam!]

Rand Paul electrifies the base? Shut up, you party hack.

[Heroic Mulatto]

God, Fowler is such a fucking hack! Shut the fuck up, you mendacious asshole!

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Anyone who follows Mass. politics knows Patrick is perhaps the worse possible candidate, like, ever. Biden says stupid things but Patrick is so racked by corruption and scandals it makes him even considering going for it look like a complete douche.

[Byte Me]

Corruption didn't stop the immensely corrupt Mcauliffe from winnging the VA governorship, unfortunately.

[Raven Nation]

But, do you think he could win the presidency?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Go figure...the dem is talking down Paul.

I smell fear.

[BigT]

Donkey fear - exactly. That shows that Rand is getting traction. Soon the MSM will notice him, probably as a result of some Donkey lies about him.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Rand Paul can't win, but Biden is in like Flynn.

[Soros' Wank-noose]

BROTHER FIGHT!!!!

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Okay, here comes the bullshit about Kultur War. Surely at some point that strategy must backfire on the Democrats.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Diabetic alcoholics? Straub beer. Duh.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Diabetic alcoholics? Kennedy knows her audience.

[Soros' Wank-noose]

Do the syringes smell malty?

[Bobarian]

Hitlery Clinton's performance record should kill her for running for dog catcher. But it's all about the feelz!

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Democrats are so annoying.

[GILMORE]

The Independents Attire Review, 19 March 2014

*Happy B-Day Bun-B Edition

- Kennedy: Digs deep into her collection of oversized, handknit baby-onesies to find a shade of sea-foam/Spring-green, one which we have noted has a strange blood-draining effect on Kennedy's pallor; while we normally believe makeup is something best when invisible - a splash of pink would make her just the cutest little sundae ever.

- Matt: As my father used to say to me, "You'd debate the color of Shit" - and lo, here I am facing precisely that conundrum. We find ourselves wanting to add epaulettes and a peaked cap to Matt's ensemble and designate him logistics officer in the Independents National Guard before sending him to the brig for showing up on duty without his goddamn tie.

- Kmele: If there's any downside to the reliability of Kmele's fashion-formula its that we are running out of nice things to say. We'd simply set him aside as an example of "things done right" so that the un-initiated in the basics of "how Men can dress tastefully" without being gauche have something to refer to. The Formula Works, people. Patterned Shirt+Solid Tie = never fails.

*Note: you can say your own happy-birthday to Bun-B by buying his Rap-Themed Coloring Book from Barnes & Noble, here=

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/.....1419710414

Keep it Trill, y'all

[GILMORE]

*note = I think Kennedy probably has the perfect shade of pink lipstick and my TV cant pick it up because of the pile of brownish stuff seated next to her killing the color-scale.

[kibby]

Is Matt just a brownish area with points to you tonight?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

What do you guys think of Obama praising Cesar Chavez today?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Sixty-two? I don't even know what that sexual position would get you.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

I have no interest in the NCAA tournament because UC Irvine isn't in it.

[BigT]

Someone have the link to the Reason group? I saw it a few days ago, but can't find it.

[Raven Nation]

Is that the one Montana Mike put up? The group was called Reasonoids but when I tried to get in, it asked me for a group #.

And, damn it, I don't remember the password.

[montana mike]

I set up an account at both ESPN and Yahoo. I was 3 sheets to the wind and the Yahoo was buffets gig, only 100,000 entries along with quicken loans spam.

With ESPN spam for registering (though they only send spam for big events).

I figured the whole would be against signing up if it meant people would get unwanted emails so I said piss on it. Maybe next year.

[BigT]

I couldn't find the NCAA pool so I created another one on Yahoo

Title: Reasonoids
Password: Kennedy

[Bam!]

He's being homeschooled now, that sounds like a win to me.

[Fist of Etiquette]

And they can schedule the vasovasostomy next March.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Kids are little sociopaths and sociopaths know how to game a zero-tolerance system that prevents kids from standing up for themselves.

[Soros' Wank-noose]

I agree with you, for the most part. However, was "standing up" for himself ever really gonna come into play in this case?

I mean, really?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Sloopy bought Sloopy Jr. a My Little Pony t-shirt. That kid is going to slay some bitches when he's older...

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Wahoo!

[Fist of Etiquette]

I have no idea what My Little Pony is. I don't think I've even seen a commercial for it.

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

Right Fist, right....

[Fist of Etiquette]

Honestly. I've heard of it, but I don't know what the gist is. And I've watched some pretty sketchy things.

[Bobarian]

Why do I think this 1st picture is you?

http://nocountryfornewnashvill.....tle-brony/

[Fist of Etiquette]

THAT'S WHAT A BRONY IS? I was way off.

[Andrew S.]

Does everyone still have me tagged as Reason's resident brony? Or did everyone forget it until I typed it now dammit.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Are you a Brony? I don't like to be out of the loop on fads but I totally missed this thing.

[Redmanfms]

No, We had Stormy Dragon pegged as the resident Brony.

He was absent for something like 6 months (during which he wasn't missed) and reappeared during my work sojourn in Venezuela.

[Bobarian]

Grayson Bruce? The Pony BP is the least of his problems.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Well, I don't think Jimmy Buffett is a diabetic.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Kennedy thinks that sheriff is starting to look pretty good.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Oh, hello!

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Rufus J: *Unzips pants*

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

So how many times does Kennedy come on to Belle during this interview? Any guesses?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Did you see Matt and Kmele's expressions?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

The second the tongue makes an appearance?

[Byte Me]

Maybe she will convince Belle to be one of her husbands new wives.

[Bobarian]

Once, but it'll be a continuous press.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Saw some nervous, nerdy smiles there.

[kibby]

I'm really looking forward to Matt & Kmele being terribly awkward during this interview.

[SIV]

Julie B is gone? I thought they'd keep her around to translate for Belle.

[Byte Me]

Alright everyone, grab your shot glasses. It's gonna be 'that' kinda night. And, by "that", I mean "awesome".

[Heroic Mulatto]

You call your penis "shot glass"?

[Byte Me]

That was for the tequila segment. But, now that the porn star is here, we can just do shots out of her navel.

[Bobarian]

That's about the size of it.

[GILMORE]

The male members of the Independents panel just had the goofiest grins on their faces when the porn start walked in.

*Oh YOU MEN!*

[BigT]

Tax free zones in NY - we won't screw you for 10 years!

[Rufus J. Firefly]

88 is my favorite sexual position.

[kibby]

That voice does not say "educated" to me.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I think she's 'in character'.

[kibby]

Possibly. I think that may just be how most 18 year old girls talk now, from what I hear on campus.

It's a huge turn off.

[Atanarjuat]

Bingo.

[Bobarian]

Her field of study is 'Gender Studies", so I don't think "educated" is the right word...

Indoctrinated, maybe?

[Raven Nation]

Not necessarily. See if you can find the interview she did with the Duke student paper. She has some pretty brutal things to say about some feminists.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

TMI

[Bam!]

She'd need to be gagged for me to watch her in porn.

[Bobarian]

There is plenty of that kind of porn.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Tuition hike? Looks like someone is going to have to do some anal.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Quick. Pan to Matt and Kmele!

[GILMORE]

Now we see the male members of the Independents panel desperately repressing their goofy grins

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Fight the Patriarchy, show, let those nipples protrude.

[BigT]

$60k/year - how many porn movies is that? (sorry I'm out of the loop on this)

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

60 decent movies/year.

[BigT]

That's more than one per week. That's a lot of cocksucking. I don't think she is interesting enough to be successful long-term.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

She's not. Her appeal is strictly 'barely legal' because, as I said above, she looks 16.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Unless she does gangbangs?

[Bam!]

That Miss Teen USA who was outed for appearing in porn got $1500 per shoot. That was before she won the crown.

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

Are actual "movies" made anymore though? I mostly see single scenes on the internet. I guess if you hit up the local adult video store you can find full length flicks.

Seems like one off scenes are more the rage these days. So how many scenes would she have to do to pay $60,000/year?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

She knows to look at the camera.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

What's that raspy voice thing called?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Vocal fry or creaky voice.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Thank you.

[Byte Me]

Hot?

[Bobarian]

Throating?

Google it (but not at work).

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Nice way of saying she was 'easy.'

We knew a chick, French-Canadian, who banged eight guys in one night.

We called her 'Industrial.'

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I can't keep up with my thoughts and typing here the jokes are getting ahead of me.

[Bobarian]

Only using one hand?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Sounds like she reported a fact. You don't often get that from a liberal journalist.

[GILMORE]

the pornstar makes good points.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Google gobble!

[Atanarjuat]

A female libertarian porn star Women's Studies major?

*head asplodes*

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Oh Christ, women's studies and sociology? Learn engineering or computer science.

[Big Chief]

She's already got a trade. The schooling is just for fun.

And how can ANY school be worth $50k a year?

[Bam!]

Women's Studies major? Good thing you didn't go into debt to get that degree and have been developing a career with a brighter future.

[SIV]

She could get a women's studies degree from a state school.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

She'll make 2 grand extra for doing a "4.0".

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Women's studies AND Sociology? I see more movies in her future.

[GILMORE]

I note = They are more direct and pointed in their questions with the pornstar than they were with the goddamn communist

[Byte Me]

Commies babble incoherently either way. This interview was lucrative.

**closes out of PornHub and deletes browsing history**

[Raven Nation]

This is why Firefox has "Private Browsing."

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I don't know, are we talking about private or public campuses?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Nice voice?

Not really.

[GILMORE]

I don't recall her auditioning for lead in the Metropolitan Opera

[RannedPall]

Not sure if you saw my response to your poutine fueled outburst against me in the PM links, but here it is again, bring it!:
Keep your pants on canuck, I do follow soccer, religiously. I know that racism in Europe is much more prevalent in soccer, and sports there in general, than in North America. I only singled out Italy because the immediate incident that came to mind was that of the Roma/Milan game being called off because the Roma fans were chanting racist shit at Balotelli. So, I'm chalking up your angry outburst to the discovery that your pet moose drank all your Crown Royal, or maybe you're just sick of the commentariat bagging on soccer. In any case, I'd be more than happy to school you in FIFA or on a real pitch any day 🙂

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Not denying the racism. The fact you singled out ONE country.

So yeah, you deserved the outburst.

And be careful about 'schooling' me dude about FIFA. I did soccer research for a two years AND played in France, Italy and even got a try out for Team Canada back in the day.

Other than that, look forward to talking soccer.

So don't go there.

[RannedPall]

Oh geez, if I somehow implied that I only considered racism to exist in Italy, I apologize. Now, tell me more about your soccer "studies"...

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Nah. I apologize. Call it the Episiarch's Revenge.

Silly.

Did radio work. Also keep an index of club soccer stats.

Sorry if the squirrels post this multiple times. This is getting ridiculous.

[RannedPall]

Not sure how I feel about Bradley at Toronto, then again, he just wasn't getting the playing time over in Europe, hopefully the US can at least make it to the round of 16 this summer.

[RannedPall]

Alright gents, OT, but I'm going to take my last final for my..... Latinos and the law class! Hold the applause, it's an elective and thought it would be easy, it was. And, plenty of hot Mexicans.....that I noticed from the back of the room from behind my book, that I keep in my roller backpack.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Hey, you're the one who made that Italian remark about racism in soccer.

I answered you. Pissed me off, really.

Racial incidences in soccer is not confined to Italy nor is it any worse than in places like Spain and England. Or Russia or Germany back in the day. How you chose to single out Italy was bizarre.

/narrows eyes.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

She didn't sound all that articulate.

But hey.

We need women in the ranks, right?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Meh. She's 18.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Yeah, I don't expect someone that young to be articulate. I certainly wasn't articulate about liberty issues when I was 18.

It would appear, however, that she's bitten off more than she can chew.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Kennedy hyped her.

So.

Gotta keep it real.

18 or not. Or else she's gonna believe the hype.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Kennedy hyped her.

So.

Gotta keep it real.

18 or not. Or else she's gonna believe the hype.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

I think people underestimated her because she talks like an 18 year old. She made some good points and showed good presence, especially for an 18 year old.

[MJGreen]

I have to say - she actually looks cute in this interview. She's looked kinda odd in every other pic or interview I've seen, but she looks decent on The Independents.

Still, $60,000 yet she's doing it all for a women's studies degree? I'd use my porn dollars for a better investment.

[Byte Me]

I'd use my porn dollars for a better investment.

Like a Porsche Carrera GT.

[GILMORE]

nice car.

I hear half the people who bought them have crashed them. Seriously. There's a website I found that had pics of like 20 GT wrecks in LA alone.

Still. nice car. I consider the Carerra GT as defining the absolute upper limit of "tasteful supercar" before you cross the line into "freakish guido machine" like a Lambo or Pagani or something.

[SIV]

Paganis were (way) overpriced kit cars. Some Lambos are quite tasteful.

[GILMORE]

"Some Lambos are quite tasteful."

The Miura.

other than that, what on god's green fucking earth are you TALKING about??

The whole *point* of a lambo is to scream "FUCK YOU!!! IM RICH MOTHERFUCKER!! LISTEN TO THIS FREAKING 12 CYLINDER WHINE!!!"" while idling outside a shitty guido nightclub.

A "tasteful" lambo?? You are mad, MAD!! its like a "Subtle Michael Bay Film"? "smooth and jazzy AGNOSTIC FRONT??"

[Sevo]

GILMORE|3.19.14 @ 10:31PM|#
"Some Lambos are quite tasteful."
The Miura."

And driving one for more than a mile or so will make you wish you were stopped and looking at it.
Never drove a 350GT but I'm told they were useable (and IMO, the design has aged well)

[GILMORE]

Oh god, the UCSB catfight has made national news now.

This is the price we pay for a world filmed by iPhones 24/7

[Soros' Wank-noose]

Well, it's actually been national news since last week.

Frankly, anything that rips the mask off behavior like that, I'm glad to see in the news.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Yes Matt, yes there is a culture of idiocy.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Martin Kramer. Look him up. A professor fighting the good fight.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I love free speech that I love.

[kibby]

It's hate speech otherwise.

[Heroic Mulatto]

It could be just mild dislike speech, or even slightly ambivalent speech.

[kibby]

No. If you disagree with me in any way, you are a hate-spewing bigot.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Well, all right then.

[Fist of Etiquette]

She's a professor of what?

[Heroic Mulatto]

African-American Studies, if I remember correctly. Her dissertation was on Black women in porn.

[Atanarjuat]

I hope she mentioned Sade. So...talented.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Hell yeah for the old school!

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Feminist studies with an emphasis on pornography. No, really.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Well then.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Glad that you "understand" her emotional reaction, because I don't. I've never stolen a fucking sign.

[Bobarian]

The pictures may be gross, but they are accurate.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Back in my days in university, a black student verbally attacked the professor for quoting Edmund Burke. I forget the quote but it was typical of the times for (negative) views on Africa. He was so irrational you can feel the class squirming in disbelief even after several pleas by the professor explaining he was just contextualizing.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Two words:

Fifteen years.

[Warrren]

Testeing

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

DON'T YOU KOCH-SUCKERS GET IT? GLOBAL WARMING WILL EXTINCT THE POLAR BEARS AND LEAD TO 20 MILLION RAPES AND MURDERS 2050!

THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!!!!

[BigT]

If Kennedy's views on AGW are as informed as hers on oil, we can skip the BS session on Friday.

[Matt Welch]

Bjorn Lomborg, Ron Bailey, John Tierney, Bill Nye, Jerry Taylor. It's a good show.

[SIV]

"The right does it too"

Jesus Fucking Christ, Matt

When AGW proponents point to weather or a natural disaster as evidence they are being serious. When "deniers" do it they are mocking and ridiculing what is obviously NOT "scientific evidence".

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Hey Matt, can you re-post Stossel's normal Wednesday piece again Thursday night before his show so we have a live thread.

I go through Independents withdrawal on Thursday night.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Here's a comment for the 2 minute hate:

The Independents is Firing Line for the ADHD generation.

[BigT]

So Nye ends the night with an extra asshole? Sounds delicious!

[GILMORE]

people =

do not wear your striped-suit jacket as a sportcoat over a casual shirt.

Ever.

That is all.

[Sevo]

OK, next time I go to the Salvation Army store, I'll need your advice.

[GILMORE]

get a khaki blazer; next, brown or navy corduroy. A wool/tweed thing is also possible but better after the previous 2. get them cut to fit you if they're not already perfect (factor in $40-50 per)

Salvation Army I've never had luck with, but you never know. If you're a "normal" size and shape you can find a lot of stuff. I am luckily a trim 40R so I've bought sportcoats from Ebay that fit like a glove.

you know ive come across like a half-dozen of these 'Men's-style-blogs' (by accident) from time to time, and I swear, even though they're usually *right* 99% of the time, they are such pretentious douchebags that they utterly repel me. I found one just now on the topic of 'the utter necessity of a khaki blazer', and I so want to fucking punch the guy after 2 seconds.

I think this is why so many people avoid the issue. The fucking 'advocates' of style are such goddamn irritable twerps.

[GILMORE]

'irritating' I think I meant

[Heroic Mulatto]

Andy of AskAndyAboutClothes seems like one of the most humble men on the planet.

[GILMORE]

ok, never seen that.

uhm

=
Clothing Tips & Advice For Police Officers

We'll skip that for now.

The Ten Most Common Men's Fashion Mistakes

http://askandyaboutclothes.com.....-mistakes/
...

They're things like, "don't wear a belt and suspenders", or "your pants should cover your socks when you're standing up" or "just button the top" of your sportcoat (ok granted, maybe that's helpful to someone)

This seems more like a helpful grandpa rather than a guy who's going to help you look boss. more power to 'em though.

[Heroic Mulatto]

He's trying to sell a book. He's not going to give the good stuff for free.

[Warrren]

What about with a straw boater?

[GILMORE]

Dude, I said *suit jacket*. Not your goddamn barbershop quartet outfit. You're not wearing a fucking hat with pinstripes.

Seersucker is a whole different story as well.

[Fist of Etiquette]

AH! Lou Dobbs.

[Bobarian]

Ah! Squirrelz!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Christ, Bill Nye...

That should be a hoot.

[kibby]

It will require great amounts of alcohol, that's for sure.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

As opposed to any other night?

[kibby]

More than the normal required amount.

[Fist of Etiquette]

So Friday a certain couple of Independents are going to have to announce their positions on AGW. How delicious.

[GILMORE]

Good god its DOBBS!!!

[SusanM]

praise JHVH-1

[BigT]

Yellen triggered a triple digit selloff? Lou Dobbs delivers something useful!

[Byte Me]

Trees like carbon dioxide. I am aware of trees. That is why I let my car idle all day at work. Also, to spite the alarmists that don't understand thermodynamics or anything about co2's relationship to, well, anything in the environment.

P.S.
It seems as if something is gnawing on the server cables at Reason, again.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

The Duke girl should be a professor and the UCSB professor should be a porn star.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

I should have put a trigger warning on that remark.

[SIV]

TRIGGER WARNING: Ebony Mature BBW imagery

[Heroic Mulatto]

Just "BW" there is nothing "beautiful" about her.

[SIV]

If only BBW was reserved for Arianna Giovanni in-her-prime quality you might find it in my search history.

[Redmanfms]

You think Aria Giovanni was a "BBW" in her prime?

Jesus, looks like we have another sarcasmic anorexia fetishist...

[Sevo]

Missed it, but just did a search and I see the reference.
So "triggered" is the new "twinky defense"?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

When are they gonna bring the commie back? I missed the episodes.

[Sevo]

So did everyone with enough brass to call him on his BS.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Next time, treat the communist as if he were a Heritage Foundation staffer saying the government should recognize that marriage is between a man and a woman.

[SIV]

A million times ^this^

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Jesse got logged out by the squirrels, and asked me to post on his behalf:

"Did Rufus and RannedPall go on a bad date or something? They seem very worked up over something seemingly trivial."

Discuss.

[RannedPall]

No, he just blew up on me because he thought I was implying that racism in soccer is only confined to Italy, all is well now, and we are going on a second date. STOP TRYING TO START SHIT JESSE, also, tell him I only buy my meats from manhattan meats now, best butcher for miles. You can also make any amount of sexual jokes about that previous sentence as you want.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Jesse:
Bah, I still haven't made it to Manhattan Meats.
*Hangs head in shame*

[Palin's Buttplug]

Bush rednecks (today's GOP) hates science. Someone remind me why anyone should shill for them.

GILMORE?

[RannedPall]

Because....Republican women are hotter? Good enough for me. Except Jan Brewer, she, uhh, needs some work. Now, Elizabeth Hasselbeck...

[GILMORE]

I am the nominate "SoCon" now?

how'd that happen?

[GILMORE]

Because "jaded Brooklynite" is the New Tom DeLay

[RannedPall]

The all caps handle maybe? Yeah, that's it. How's Williamsburg treating you?

[Sevo]

Shitpile is an ignoramus, that's how it happened.

[kibby]

Because it has lost what little intelligence it had left.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Dickhead.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Public TV on the postwar burial of the bodies of Civil War soldiers.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Sylvia Plath thinks it's too depressing.

[William of Purple]

What'd I miss guys? Still can't post?

[RannedPall]

Geez, did all you old east coast kooks check in for the night already? Playa? Jesse? ANYBODY?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'm about to take my new Gopro to the pool. After another beer, obviously.

[kibby]

What do you think of it so far? Worth the purchase?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Great picture quality. But I know I am going to end up doing something stupid or illegal on camera. It is called a "Hero", after all...

[kibby]

Maybe you'll end up being interviewed by The Independents! Or...shot by the cops.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'll have some good footage by the end of the weekend. And I haven't even figured out how to mount it to my AR-15 yet.

[RannedPall]

Nice, a good investment IMO. I think I tried replying to one of your comments on an earlier thread about whether or not it's worth the money, not sure if the skewrlz shot it down, though.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

It made sense for me. I needed something more durable. I got the Hero Black, LCD Backpack, head strap, tripod mount, and 2 extra batteries.

[RannedPall]

Yeah, my friend brought his along on a LA to NYC road trip we took last summer. The quality really is phenomenal, it's also quite difficult to type out "phenomenal" on your iPhone while flying down the 110 at high speeds.

[Sevo]

Uh, the skquirlz are fucking with things again.

[Sevo]

Needs moar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAd3ALa--gg

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Squirrels can swim. Huh...

[kibby]

You guys need to stop abandoning this thread so early! Now I'm stuck doing homework. During spring break.

All of you suck.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Isn't spring break a month from now?

[kibby]

For elementary schools, maybe.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Makes sense. I booked a week in Palm Desert next month for the kids' spring break without realizing that it coincided with the Coachella music festival. Now I'm going to be surrounded by assholes...

[kibby]

That sounds like the worst trip ever.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I made the same mistake 3 years ago.

I tend to make the best of the situation.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Aren't there a lot of hot women at that festival? If you weren't married and taking the kids that wouldn't seem so bad.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

If.

[Raven Nation]

Next week for me.

[kibby]

It was last week for some other people I know. Does every college just pick arbitrary weeks or something?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Yes. To prove that they aren't beholden to the Jesus Easter lobby.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Is UA on the semester of quarter system? UCs go spring break next week/

[kibby]

Semesters. Like every red-blooded American university ought to be.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

I prefer the quarter system, thank you very much. 3 is the perfect number.

[kibby]

Three is only the perfect number in a select few situations.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Such as?

[kibby]

Certain mixed drinks? Sex? I don't know, man, I was just trying to be arbitrary because it's fun.

[Raven Nation]

My state has a late spring break - after the 10th week of a 15 week semester. Takes a long time to get there but the nice thing is, not much semester left after it.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Well that's rough.

[kibby]

If that is sarcasm, sir, I do not appreciate it.

If it's not -- yes, it blows. The only fun homework is Homer & that has to wait until Sunday/Monday.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

When I have, A Serious Man, ever been anything but honest and forthright with you?

But at least you are being productive.

[kibby]

I guess.

Erasmus can go fuck himself right now, though.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

As Erasmus maintained, you have free will to choose not read him!

[Rhywun]

"Spring break" - pfff. Enjoy that sort of thing while it lasts.

[William of Purple]

Work smarter, not harder.

[Warrren]

I don't know if any of you remember that last week I posted a bit of a worry that this Ukraine/Crimea thing could go huge and involve everyone from Poland through the Baltics and even Finland who might use a war as an excuse to grab back some lost territory. And then there would be a Europe-wide war as things spun out of control and thus turn into a massive civilization-threatening quagmire.

Now Irish pointed out that there is no way Finland was going to fight a war with Russia. His analysis was sound and I stopped worrying.

Now though a Russian official called out Estonia for that country's
supposed mistreatment of Russians.

But amid the growing Crimea crisis, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania - which like Ukraine were all parts of the old Soviet Union - have expressed growing apprehension over Moscow's intentions.

So if this statement is a window into future plans by Putin and he wants to move on the Baltics is it likely that Finland wouldn't jump in on the side of Estonia and the others?

Poland would be involved as well as they have an interest in not having Russia as a next-door neighbor and how then could Germany stay out of it as the Poles would likely call for help?

Just like that a general Euro war and with three NATO members already involved how could all the rest stay out? Hello quagmire!

[Palin's Buttplug]

Good thing Obama is POTUS instead of Dickless Cheney then.

[Sevo]

Palin's Buttplug|3.19.14 @ 11:38PM|#
"Good thing Obama is POTUS"

Yeah, that asshole gets his butt saved by Putin on a regular basis.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Quit queer sniffing me, Sevo.

[Sevo]

Palin's Buttplug|3.19.14 @ 11:58PM|#
"Quit queer sniffing me, Sevo."

Quit posting lies, slimy turd. Please catch a horrible disease and die slowly and painfully. VERY painfully, turd.

[Sevo]

"Just like that a general Euro war and with three NATO members already involved how could all the rest stay out?"

Since the '50s, the EURO gov'ts have sworn if they didn't give the population free shit, they'd 'go communist', and so the US has subsidized crummy medical care in England, 30-hour work weeks in Rance and lay-about gov't 'workers' in Italy by supplying their defense.
Well, guys, here's your chance. The US provides a laugh track and all you guys can 'go commie' with Vlad.
I'm tired of it.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I just had a horrible experience. Just watched an episode of GoT. Finished it and deleted it and my receiver went back to Lou Dobbs. I screamed, panicked and hit the recall button, as ANYTHING is better than Dobbs.

Real Time with Bill Maher...

I need to go soak my head in bleach.

[GILMORE]

that's like driving down the road at night, seeing a kitten in the road, swerving, and smashing into a nun with a baby carriage instead.

[William of Purple]

I can post, but can't manage my login ie. password/email address.
anyone else?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Same here.

[Bam!]

Aussie governments claims they may have found debris from the missing plane on a satellite photo and have dispatched SAR to the site.

Fox News has a full on BREAKING NEWS ALERT here at 3AM or whatever.