Breaking: Colorado School Shooter May Be Dead from Self-Inflicted Gunshot
The Denver Post has a live Twitter feed running from Arapahoe High School in Centennial, Colorado, where a shooting took place earlier today.
The shooter is believed dead and one victim is reported in critical condition.
For more, go here.
Just yesterday, Reason's J.D. Tuccille reported on findings from the latest quarterly Reason-Rupe Poll that 63 percent of Americans didn't think that increasing restrictions on gun ownership wouldn't prevent criminals from getting guns. Reason's director of polling, Emily Ekins, summarized the findings on what people thought would reduce or stop school shootings:
When asked to select the most important factor that may have prevented the Newtown shooting, nearly a third of respondents, 27 percent, told the Reason-Rupe poll that better mental health treatment is the most important factor in preventing the tragedy at Sandy Hook.
Twenty-two percent say better parenting is most critical, and 20 percent say having armed school officials or armed guards on site would have been the most likely way to prevent the tragedy.
Only 16 percent thought that tightening gun laws would reduce school shootings.
Those numbers may well change in the wake of this latest incident, which comes a year after the Sandy Hook shooting in Connecticut.
According to USA Today, the gunman was a student at Arapaphoe High and some reports say that he was looking for a particular teacher.
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I'm getting pretty tired of these.
speculating at this time of course but:
Sounds as if kid had beef with teacher,
teach heard about it and exited building,
kid was confronted by other kid...shot other kid,
kid commits suicide.
Hope it wasn't some abuse/harassment situation.
Is this info that you are getting locally?
Denver Post twitter feed and the sherriff was on the radio about 15 min ago. All the above are what they reported except my speculation that there is some issue between teacher and shooter. We do know the shooter was looking for the teacher and the teacher heard about that and left the building.
iHeartradio 630 KHOW AM has pretty good coverage.
Not really going to listen. No point in it. Honestly, what's the point in listening to any news, really? Mostly it gets you unnecessarily worked up and solves nothing.
typically true but I am finding in this case it to be helpful, the police started talking immediately, providing updates and directions for where parents can go, their processes, and the steps being taken. All in all I must say this is being handled well.
and I am no dunphy.
"I'm getting pretty tired of these."
Nooooooooo shit.
I have zero confidence that we will be able to do anything effectively to prevent it, but I fear that eventually people will feel we must do 'something'.
'Something' always seems to be disarming the law-abiding public.
To the credit of a horrible sheriff (Robinson), the ASD ran in to find the shooter immediately evidently. If that is the case then it is a rare occurrence of a cop doing his job to protect the public.
That's what I couldn't stand about Columbine. Cops worse than useless in that situation. Had they not even shown up, maybe Dave Sanders could have been saved.
It does, but the fact is, many people realize that gun bans are not effective.
And the only people who vote based on gun politics are pro-gun-rights.
'Something' always seems to be disarming the law-abiding public.
Instead of taking down the "This school is a free fire zone" signs.
Unless people are able to see that what stopped the mayhem was having an armed good guy on campus.
Link: http://www.concealednation.org.....ff-member/
Maybe the "No guns" sign on the school should be larger. Perhaps he didn't see it? Or they could send letters home to students to remind them.
Right next door to me. All schools in area were/are locked down (which is silly). At least my munchkin was home by the time this started.
Oh, joy. Ban boners stiffening in 3... 2... 1...
Already overheard co-worker sarcastically pontificating about how "we can't give up the freedom of some people to own an arsenal." Because anyone in favor of the 2A must "own an arsenal." Riiiiight
Nevermind that we don't know yet what kind or number of guns were used.
Listen, the fact is that every gun control scheme in the world has failed. If you really want to answer this coworker, point out the dismal compliance rateswith gun bans even in Europe.
And that in a couple of English cities, the cops want to start arming the squad cars with submachine guns because the criminals are getting more brazen.
supposedly one weapon and it was recovered by the police.
Gun bans don't seem to be working. Maybe we should ban schools instead.
Banning schools would be more effective.
Reports indicate that the weapon used was a shotgun.
Messy.
But he followed VP Biden's advice.
Won't matter. The Aurora theater shooter did most of his damage with a shotgun and handgun after his "assault rifle" jammed. Hickenlooper still signed an magazine limit bill to appease the ban boners.
What stands out about these incidents is that they're targeting areas where they know most people won't be armed to begin with. You typically don't hear about someone walking into a shitkicker bar and opening fire on the patrons for a reason.
I have a good friend who's a marine and annoyingly pro-gun control. I cannot for the life of me get her past:
1. People should be better trained if they own guns
2. No one "needs" to have an AR-15
3. Starting from assuming a citizen has no right to something and requiring proof they need it (instead of vice versa) is acceptable for 2 while unacceptable for everything else (speech, religion) because "guns are designed specifically to kill".
Normally I love arguing with her. She's a jew, I argue like a jew, it's a lot of fun. But on this one I can't for the fucking life of me understand the way she thinks.
The problem is that Marines make a big deal about every Marine being a rifleman (and havign to qualify annually with the M-16).
Her attitude is like a dentist claiming only he should be allowed to pull teeth.
No one "needs" to have a car that does over 70 miles per hour either.
No one needs to have a beer?
The are designed specifically to get people drunk.
Look at how the military treats firearms. It's a long way from having rifles racked at the end of an open squad bay with live ammo available. Keep them locked them up, issue weapons and live ammo under close supervision, make sure every thing is accounted for and put everything back in the vault at the end of the day.
Also, what's her job in the Corps?
Actually, in the marines they still have their rifles. They just aren't allowed to have any ammo for them. So basically an expensive, unergonomic, single-use, disposable club.
She took an admin paper pushing job to get back to Seattle. She's got less than a year left, then she'll be trying to get into a JD/MBA program.
1. People should be better trained if they own guns
I agree. That will require easier access to ranges, which local politicians tend to fight.
2. No one "needs" to have an AR-15
The average man should have access to better weapons than standard infantry. When General Washington went looking for men, he talked to people who were skilled with better weapons (the American long rifle) than the standard infantry weapons of the day (the musket). This was critical to the Revolutionary War. Without rifle cover from the far side of the river, the musketmen could not have effectively retreated from the British.
3. Starting from assuming a citizen has no right to something and requiring proof they need it (instead of vice versa) is acceptable for 2 while unacceptable for everything else (speech, religion) because "guns are designed specifically to kill".
She swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. If she cannot take Constitutional rights seriously, she should resign.
Besides, the "anti-gun" position is not really anti-gun, because she thinks certain classes should have them (police and military), but others shouldn't (general population, especially urban, minority and poor).
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-c.....07-290.pdf
"Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35?36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."."
Well, SCOTUS says she can go fuck herself. The end.
1. Why? How many people do you think are killed accidentally? Or do you think the school shooter did a shitty job and should have killed more, which he could have done had he had better training?
2. So? You don't need 99% of the things in you life. Should you still be allowed to have them?
3. It's evil people like you who invert the very meaning of the word liberty and rights that make the world a worse place.
Im disappointed the shooter was not able to take some punk cops out along the way!
http://www.Anon-Go.tk
If he was using a shotgun (as reported), then can Biden be blamed for this?