Obamacare Unites Americans—In Dismay at Government Suckage

We liked health care better the old way, a majority of Americans say when asked by Reason-Rupe pollsters about Obamacare. Across the board, Americans disapprove of the president's handling of health care issues, have little faith in politicians' ability to manage the provision of medicine, and don't think healthy, younger Americans should be treated as milking cows to subsidize coverage for older and sicker people. In fact, Americans generally agree that the chief executive and Congress alike have amply demonstrated that government is something of a deadweight hanging from the country's neck.
Americans still seem divided on what they wish government could do for them. When asked whether they believed "the less government the better" or "there are more things government should be doing," exactly 48 percent of respondents pick each one. But when pushed to say whether "government is primarily a source of good" or "is generally a burdensome part of society that impedes the ability of people to improve their lives," 54 percent said government is a big friggin' hurdle that bangs your shins every time.

That's the difference between hoping for a unicorn, but admitting that you're only ever going to get a goat.
And what a goat. The launch of the Affordable Care Act has done wonders to firm up the public's opinion of government (in)competence. Fifty-three percent of respondents have an unfavorable opinion of the law after its jaw-droppingly flawed debut, with a 47 percent plurality saying it has decreased their confidence in government's ability to solve problems.
Overall, 55 percent say they prefer the system that was in place prior to passage of the 2010 federal health care law over Obamacare—you know, the system that everybody used to hate before they discovered it could get worse.
And it's not just the general outline; the details of the health care law turn people off, too. Majorities oppose prohibiting health insurance companies from denying coverage or charging some customers higher premiums based on pre-existing conditions, oppose requiring younger, healthier people to pay more for health insurance to subsidize care for others, and think low-cost, bare-bones policies of the sort prohibited by the ACA should be allowed.
Not surprisingly, after their interesting performances in recent years, Congress and the president both get lousy marks for their handling of health issues.
If the president liked high marks for transparency, maybe he could have kept them by not snowing the public with phony assurances about his signature policy achievement. As it is, a majority of Americans think he was pulling their legs when he claimed to preside over the "most transparent administration in history."
Well, if you want to see how something performs, there's nothing like a laboratory experiment. Too bad the whole damned country is a laboratory for government suckage.
If only somebody had some ideas for reforming health care without treating people like milking cows or idiot children.
More poll results here (PDF).
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We must have scared Emily away if Tuccille is doing the poll result writeups now.
Which is why there are no libertarian women.
Majorities oppose prohibiting health insurance companies from denying coverage or charging some customers higher premiums based on pre-existing conditions, oppose requiring younger, healthier people to pay more for health insurance to subsidize care for others, and think low-cost, bare-bones policies of the sort prohibited by the ACA should be allowed.
When people figure out that they personally have to pay for shit, free shit isn't so popular anymore. I have never believed that this thing would get popular once people started getting free shit. No. Everyone loves to help out the uninsured and the sick, just as long as someone else is paying for it.
Majorities are also too stupid to see that the first premise is contradicted by the following two.
No. Read that again. It is a poorly written paragraph with a bunch of double negatives. But all of the propositions are consistent.
Majorities oppose prohibiting health insurance companies from denying coverage or charging some customers higher premiums based on pre-existing conditions
In better English, "a majority supports the right of health insurance companies to deny coverage or charge more for people with pre-existing conditions.
2. oppose requiring younger, healthier people to pay more for health insurance to subsidize care for others,
In better English, a majority think that insurance companies should be able to charge young people according to their risk and not more in order to subsidize the care of others.
3. and think low-cost, bare-bones policies of the sort prohibited by the ACA should be allowed.
In better English, a majority think people should not be forced to buy policies covering things they don't need or want.
All of those propositions are consistent and show that a majority of people fully understand how Obamacare is fucking them.
I stand corrected. I read the first as oppose allowing insurance companies to charge more or deny coverage. Derp!
Not your fault. It is a terribly written paragraph.
The goat has more of a soul behind it's eyes than the POTUS.
Why is everyone so oblivious? Living without health care is serious. Can we all slow down, take time out? Guarantee we'll be feeling all right.
You're not immune to all disease. Take advantage of this opportunity.
Keep your mind at ease, and get some security.
Serious? Is there a point in there?
Hard to tell.
The point is MikeP wants you to ignore the gun in your back, and pay for his girlfriend's birth control pills.
But mikeP!
What about us who are worried about the cha-ching, cha-ching and the bling, bla-bling?
You're young and wild and free, but you need to stay healthy. There's no excuse to be uninsured! Just stop for a minute and think.
Oh, I almost forgot...
Don't worry about the price tag!
But according to Huffpo: success! (or not - to be fair)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....21797.html
I am sure she is. But I doubt the thousand of other people who are not paying higher rates so she can be "relieved" feel the same way.
The idiots at places like Huffpo think that showing examples like this is going to make Obamacare popular. It will do no such thing because for every "success story" there are ten people paying more so that the people in the success story can get over. All these sorts of stories are going to do is just piss people off more and make them resent the people who are benefiting from this.
Don't need a lot of money to stay young and healthy. We just want to make it more fair with affordable health care.
In your world fair must equal forcing people at gunpoint to pay for others. Seems like an odd definition of fair to me.
What are you, in second grade?
When they distribute the talking points they try to keep it simple for the retards who will be repeating them.
You have no idea how right you are.
Sorry, dude. Didn't quite your angle here. Nice trolling. 😉
For the children, John. FOR THE CHILDREN!
For the children...
First it was for the children to have those up to age 26 covered by their parents.
But turn 27 and it's time to be sheared!
My share of the family's health insurance just went up another hundred dollars a month while the company's been on a pay freeze for three years. The HSA contribution has gone down while the deductible has gone up, and it now doesn't do crap if you're out of network. Plus all our doctors have dropped it so we need to find new ones.
Success!
But Ms Wilson and her two children are doing great. Don't you feel great about your family suffering so that she can do better or do you want to tell Ms. Wilson to go fuck herself?
I don't think these "success stories" are going to have the effect that liberals think they will.
Obviously I hate the poor and the sick. Why else would I resent having to pay more for less? Hatred is the only explanation.
Is deprogramming for personality cultists covered under mental health care provisions of the Obamacare?
Seems like everything's about to change in the health care industry when coverage expands and they can't reject you for conditions that are preexisting.
Is it true that Obama's asshole tastes like vanilla ice cream and his farts smell like strawberry jam?
Covering pre-existing conditions is not insurance, it's welfare, paid for by all the people getting screwed with higher premiums and shittier coverage.
He's goofing around. Go back up the thread and check out his link.
Oh, yeah - nice trolling dude!
No it is not insurance. It is charity. And we rightly have charity hospitals and a bankruptcy system that discharges medical debts to handle that problem or at least we used to until the Top Men decided to destroy our health care system for our own good.
You can sing along!