Bitcoin Prices Reach So High Users Can Fund Space Trips

Richard Branson is a fan of Bitcoins, having invested in some himself, and announced today he will allow them to be used as currency for some trips out of this world. From Forbes:

The adoption of Bitcoin as a means of currency has now entered the final frontier: in a blog post today, Richard Branson announced that his commercial space company, Virgin Galactic, will accept Bitcoin for trips into space.

"Virgin Galactic is one of the universe's most exciting, futuristic companies. Bitcoin, the virtual currency, has really captured the imagination recently as one of the world's most innovative businesses looking to the future. So we think it is about time Virgin Galactic customers can choose to pay with bitcoins," Branson wrote.

Branson also revealed in the post that one future Virgin Galactic astronaut from Hawaii has already paid for a seat in Bitcoin, and stated that he expects "many more to follow in her footsteps."

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[Austrian Anarchy]

Virgin Galactic is one of the universe's most exciting, futuristic companies

I'm not trusting that sample size for any exciting conclusions.

[Sevo]

At least it's not a gov't funded greenie bizz:
"The Energy Department has sold off its $192 million loan guarantee to Fisker Automotive to Chinese billionaire Richard Li for $25 million ? the biggest taxpayer loss on a green loan since the failure of Solyndra."
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....-139-loss/

[playa manhattan]

Now what will Justin Bieber drive?!?!?

[jesse.in.mb]

Bieber is old enough to drive?

[Hugh Akston]

He's old enough to get thrown out of a Brazilian brothel.

[Hugh Akston]

Wait, no, I'm wrong. He's old enough to pay for sex at a Brazilian brothel. He's also old enough to get thrown out of a club in Chicago for underage drinking.

[Austrian Anarchy]

As an employee or as a customer?

[jesse.in.mb]

Kids these days, I didn't get thrown out of a brothel until I was 24.

[Warrren]

Well, your mom was tired of you living in the basement.

[jesse.in.mb]

That's awful. Mother was a cocktail waitress/exotic dancer. She never brought her work home with her.

[Killazontherun]

I worked with a guy who grew up with an exotic dancer as a mother. We got to be pals for a brief time, but things got weird. After a pleasant evening of smoking pot and drinking, he wanted me to drive him to his mother's place so he could confront her. We lost contact after I got another job. That was back in 2000. This is the last I heard of him:

http://myfox8.com/2012/07/11/g.....rsections/

You're right, that is the most ironic last name ever.

[playa manhattan]

Anytime you can link to a news article as a last known contact, it's golden.

I'm sure the "but things got weird" has a good story behind it too...

[Killazontherun]

I've probably told it before, but here it goes. A bunch of us were drinking and smoking, and he starts to get spacy, talks in a modified voice. A bit possessed like. The other guys are freaking out, and he feeds off of their emotions. So I started laughing at him for the drama queen shit. He pretends to be pissed that I'm being a calloused jerk, so I take it the next step, and turn him on his side (not a big guy) and tickle him until he pukes. I should mention, he was also showing signs of alcohol poisoning, so this wasn't purely malicious on my part.

The best part about all of this, those guys get on my case a few days later, but he overhears this, and comes over and tells them that I was right. He was jerking them around, and he didn't blame me for calling his bluff. I had seen it before, alcoholics and drug addicts feed off of emotions in a manipulative way, meanness is kindness in a lot of cases like this.

[playa manhattan]

I have a friend that is exactly like that. Needless to say, he is a lawyer now. He is in my group of friends that all grew up together, so we have to put up with it..

Last August, I flew up to Portland for my best friend's bachelor party. There were about 20 of us that haven't seen each other for about 5 years, so there was a lot of bad behavior and 1-upsmanship (we got kicked out of 2 nice hotels in 1 weekend, in spite of having over a million starwood points between us).

My sketchy friend disappeared from one of the bars and the hotel for about 8 hours, then shows up crying at sunrise in our hotel suite saying that he got abducted by a taxi driver who drove him into the forest and then transformed into a ghost (specifically a winago, a native american spirit). He was very specific, saying the taxi driver had deer antlers etc...

We are so used to this bullshit that we shrugged it off. Of course, winago became a meme, and any time somebody's drink went missing, winago did it...

[jesse.in.mb]

I flew up to Portland for my best friend's bachelor party.

(specifically a winago, a native american spirit).

What the fuck is a wendigo doing in Portland, they're specific to Algonquian speaking people (NE US/SE Canada)? Also, they eat people, they dont just terrorize them.

I blame Grimm (but not Sasha Roiz, clearly)

[playa manhattan]

So you're saying they're real...
I guess I owe my friend an apology.

[jesse.in.mb]

They myth of them is real. Algonquian speaking peoples believed that you could turn into one if you were greedy, ate human flesh or were possessed by the spirit of one. Kind of like koro there's a culture bound mental illness of wendigoism.

There is a condition known as "Wendigo Psychosis" under which people with access to food sources would inexplicably become overcome with the need to consume human flesh. One such person, a Cree man named Swift Runner, famously slaughtered his entire family in 1878 and ate them, despite being only 25 miles from the Hudson Bay Company's supply post.

It's actually a really fun myth, and it's distinctly American. We should totally have embraced Wendigos instead of zombies.

From Wikipedia:

The Wendigo was gaunt to the point of emaciation, its desiccated skin pulled tautly over its bones. With its bones pushing out against its skin, its complexion the ash gray of death, and its eyes pushed back deep into their sockets, the Weendigo looked like a gaunt skeleton recently disinterred from the grave. What lips it had were tattered and bloody [....] Unclean and suffering from suppurations of the flesh, the Weendigo gave off a strange and eerie odor of decay and decomposition, of death and corruption.

[playa manhattan]

Here's a (former) friend of mine:
http://da.co.la.ca.us/mr/archive/2005/100405b.htm

[Killazontherun]

Coach -- check, charged with indecent liberties -- check. Hey, I got one of those kind of ex-friends too! Can't find a story to link to though as it happened in the late 90s.

[playa manhattan]

JUGWINE WARREN!!!!

[playa manhattan]

24? What kind of brothel was it?

[jesse.in.mb]

Straight one in Bangkok. My British ad hoc travel companion was looking for a prostitute but kept trying to haggle them down to rural Chinese prices (he'd been working there as a teacher). So we got tossed out on our ear. Apparently he found a street walker after I went to bed with poor hygiene who went down to his proposed rates.

I was the only customer who wasn't a crusty old businessman when I went to a gay sex show/house of prostitution (Hot Male), which made me rather popular. I slipped out after the show so I didn't ask about rates.

[Warrren]

You went to bed with poor hygiene?

[playa manhattan]

When you didn't ask about rates, what do you mean, exactly? Supply or demand side of the equation?

[jesse.in.mb]

I wasn't asking to work there. I was popular with the performers/workers, not the crusty old dudes in the audience. One of them was particularly tempting, but I have a hard time with the idea of paying for sex if there is quality free sex available.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

I'm sure Thailand is a great country to visit, but I think you'd have to be crazy to stick your dick in any prostitute over there.

[Warrren]

Are we in science fiction times now? Or do we actually have to live on a spaceship?

[Austrian Anarchy]

Space ship earth, yes. Al Gore says it has a fever too.

[Paul.]

OT:

Kelly is heard launching into a tirade of profanity-laden commands before he grabs Smith and puts him across the patrol car's hood.

"What Mr. Smith was doing, apparently, was violating Officer Kelly's personal rule against not responding in three seconds or fewer to police commands," Judge Jones wrote. "What Officer Kelly was doing was engendering disrespect for law enforcement and, by extension, the criminal justice system."

Huh, sounds like an absolutely routine stop to me.

http://seattletimes.com/html/l.....lkxml.html

[IDPNDNT]

Kind of a shitty situation really. Officer Kelly was a complete asshole in this regard, but Smith really did deserve a jail cell.

[quote]Six months later, in February 2010, Smith broke into the apartment of the mother of his son and beat and choked her while her young children locked themselves in a car for safety. Smith was convicted of burglary and assault and is currently at Stafford Creek Correctional Facility, where he is scheduled for release in 2020.[/quote]

[Paul.]

Yep, I agree, he did.

One wonders why Kelly can't just slap the cuffs on while saying, "Sir" the way cops used to talk when I was a kid.

Nope, gotta go into a 20 minute profanity-laden tirade about shoving his .40 in your mouth and pulling the trigger. It kind of...

"...engendering disrespect for law enforcement and, by extension, the criminal justice system."

[SweatingGin]

"New professionalism"

[Warrren]

So much wrong here. First the dead guy had a responsibility to not make himself helpless like that is the first takeaway but shouldn't the cops have done something here? Where does their responsibility begin and end?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6fa_1385118202

[playa manhattan]

The first clue is that the police tried to suppress the video.

[Warrren]

Yup. I'm already inclined to never give them the benefit of the doubt and that just puts it over the edge but that's not a legal standard.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

A specter is haunting Chicago, the specter of a naked woman riding the L train and slapping commuters (NSFW)

[Paul.]

Probably dated her at one time. Looks like she's more lucid now.

[playa manhattan]

How many of those 600 views were you?

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

I didn't find out about this until when I posted it.

[Killazontherun]

Some guys complain about saddle bags on the haunches, but I've always found them to be sexy. More horizontal than vertical crack is a feature not a bug.

[playa manhattan]

She looks good from behind. It's the tin foil hat shit that makes it a no-go.

[SweatingGin]

Just a little too close to the crazy youtube woman with the Brent Spiner obsession.

[Sevo]

Hey, now we know how the O'care Exchange is gonna be "fixed":
"HHS announces pilot program in three states to encourage direct enrollment in ObamaCare plans via insurers"
Yep, tell the customers to go somewhere else!
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....-insurers/

[playa manhattan]

I'm no management consultant, but I think the time for "pilot programs" is long gone.

[SweatingGin]

It's great! 'cause if they screw up the subsidy, you can sue an insurance company! Can't sue the government site!

[Warrren]

You know what time it is? Jugwine Time!*

This fucking bottle takes up a lot of room in the fridge, it's got to go!

*This should totally be a kids show.

[playa manhattan]

I take it you've seen the Arrested Development episode where Lucille claims that liquor goes bad and you have to drink the whole bottle?

P.S. Change your handle to Jugwine Warren! All in favor, say aye!

[Hyperion]

Warren Jugwine sounds better.

[playa manhattan]

Seconded.

[Jugwine Warren]

Too late.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

absurd.

[Jugwine Warren]

Don't other me! I know your coded words!

[playa manhattan]

Dammit! What I meant to say was Jugwine Warren copyright 2013 Playa Manhattan all rights reserved.

[Jugwine Warren]

You don't own me!

[Warrren]

We have to get rid of the Seaward!

[SweatingGin]

It's Mother-Fucking Booze Time

Bourbon, Rye, and Gin, in reverse order, for me.

Out of Campari, out of rye unless I get into the really good stuff. Manhattans are damn good, though.

[Hyperion]

So people are actually willing to spend big bitcoin to not even reach low earth orbit? Why? You can probably get higher by spending your bitcoins on Silk Road.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

http://instantrimshot.com/

[SweatingGin]

If I had once bought a pizza for $20 or so, and immediately resold it for 10,000 bitcoins. And those were now worth... 8 million dollars or more...

I'd be in fucking orbit.

Or getting started on asteroid mining to turn that into building Freeside.

[JidaKida]

Sounds like some serious business to me dude.

http://www.VPN-Anon.tk

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Chess hasn't been this sexy since Yul Brenner.

[playa manhattan]

I'm Norwegian. Why am I not also a chess genius? Oh yeah, I like beer a lot.

[Eduard van Haalen]

And no one else plays with you because of your herring breath.

Sorry, thats all I got.

[Jordan]

Time for your daily Obamacare horror story:

My company, based in California, employs 600. We used to insure about 250 of our employees. The rest opted out. The company paid 50% of their premiums for about $750,000/yr.

Under Obamacare, no one can opt out without penalty, and the rates are double or triple, depending upon the plan. Our 750k insurance for 250 employees is going to $2 million per year for 600 employees.

By mandate, we have to pay 91.5% of the premium or more up from the 50% we used to pay.

Our employees share of the premium goes from $7/week for the cheapest plan to $30/week. 95% of my employees were on that plan. Remember, we used to pay 50% now we pay 91.5% and the premiums still go up that much!!

The cheapest plan now has a deductible of $6350! Before it was $150. Employees making $9 to $10/hr, have to pay $30/wk and have a $6350 deductible!

They can't afford that to be sure. Obamacare will kill their propensity to seek medical care. More money for less care? How does that help them?

[Jordan]

Here is the craziest part. Employees who qualify for mediCAL (the California version of Medicare), which is most of my employees, will automatically be enrolled in the Federal SNAP program. They cannot opt out. They cannot decline. They will be automatically enrolled in the Federal food stamp program based upon their level of Obamacare qualification. Remember, these people work full time, living in a small town in California. They are not seeking assistance. It all seems like a joke. How can this be the new system?

[Sevo]

Jordan,
There's even more in that newsletter:

"On November 7 the New York Post commented Rule lets unions avoid ObamaCare tax ... "Buried in the new rules is a proposal to exempt 'certain self-insured, self-administered plans' from the fee in 2015 and 2016. That description applies to many union plans, according to experts."
[...]
There's no conceivable rationale?other than politics?for releasing union-only plans from a tax that is defined as universal in the Affordable Care Act statute. Like so many other ObamaCare waivers, this labor dispensation will probably turn out to be illegal."

[playa manhattan]

I can't wait for President Rick Santorum to stick it to the unions through executive orders in 2016!

[Sevo]

THAT'S what we get to look forward to?!

[playa manhattan]

There's a certain entertainment value to it.

[SweatingGin]

President Santorum will nominate attorney general Todd Akin.

Good thing the dems will be able to filibuster it in the senate!

[Brian D]

Clearly your company needs to pay your employees more, slaver! LIVING WAGE!!@1!ONE!

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Female pubes have been staging a quiet return all this year

[playa manhattan]

I would say I disagree to strongly disagree. Apparently, none of these women ever wear bikinis.

[playa manhattan]

And having now RTA, it is from a poll in the UK. Gross!

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

I blame Bush.

[cavalier973]

Awwwww.....

Did you really have to?

[Francisco d Anconia]

I see what you did there.

And I don't like it.

[Jugwine Warren]

You don't like bush?

[Francisco d Anconia]

I prefer a sprout.

[Jugwine Warren]

Kinky.

[SweatingGin]

It's the environmentalists on a "save-the-crabs" campaign, isn't it?

[Atanarjuat]

Somehow, I made my way from that link to here.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

To whom it may concern...

Researchers followed 634 couples from the time of their weddings through the first nine years of marriage and found that couples where only one spouse was a heavy drinker had a much higher divorce rate than other couples.

But if both spouses were heavy drinkers? The divorce rate was the same as for couples where neither were heavy drinkers.

"Our results indicate that it is the difference between the couple's drinking habits, rather than the drinking itself, that leads to marital dissatisfaction, separation and divorce," said Kenneth Leonard, PhD, RIA director and lead author of the study.

Over the course of the nine-year study, nearly 50 percent of couples where only one partner drank more heavily wound up divorcing, while the divorce rates for other couples was only 30 percent. ("Heavy drinking" was defined as drinking six or more drinks at one time or drinking to intoxication.)

The surprising outcome was that the divorce rate for two heavy drinkers was no worse than for two non-heavy drinkers. "Heavy drinking spouses may be more tolerant of negative experiences related to alcohol due to their own drinking habits," Leonard said. But he cautioned that this does not mean other aspects of family life are unimpaired. "While two heavy drinkers may not divorce, they may create a particularly bad climate for their children."

[playa manhattan]

Good thing my wife is bringing home a nice bottle of wine that she got from a client tonight...

[Jugwine Warren]

Hmmm

[playa manhattan]

In a bottle. WITH A REAL CORK!!!!!

[Jugwine Warren]

Snob.

[Sevo]

playa manhattan|11.22.13 @ 9:35PM|#
"In a bottle. WITH A REAL CORK!!!!!"
So you just break it off at the neck?

[SweatingGin]

Use a screwdriver, shove it into the bottle.

[playa manhattan]

I do when it's fightin' time!

[SweatingGin]

To whom it may concern...

There's no need to be passive aggressive.

Seriously. bullshit.

Of course, now past 9 years with Mrs. Gin. She's not really a drinker at all.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

I suggest the US form closer diplomatic relations with Serbia.

I, of course, will happily volunteer to negotiate the terms with Ms. Hadzovic.

[Irish]

Russell Simmons: Obamacare has saved millions of lives.

After he got attacked for this he seriously issued this claim, which actually makes him appear dumber:

After getting attacked by the right wing blogs yesterday for my comments, let me remind them that Obamacare did not start with the website on October 1st. It started when it was passed in 2009. And since that time, 2.5 MILLION more young people have health insurance because they can stay on their parent's plan until they are 26. And since 2010, health insurance companies could no longer deny health insurance to children because of a pre-existing condition. That has been the law before the website even launched.)

Yes, but there's no evidence that a single one of those people would have died without being on their parents' health insurance. Health insurance =/= health care.

Progs are fucking idiots.

[playa manhattan]

If you are going to make shit up, just go for it. Obamacare saved billions of lives!

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

The mountains bowed down and the seas roared the day Obama signed the Affordable Healthcare Act into law.

The day the website launched 10,000 cranes took to the skies!

[Jugwine Warren]

That was construction companies airlifting their equipment to saner countries.

[playa manhattan]

Please promise me that you will be a recurring character.

[Irish]

On November 1, the Affordable Care Act shot 18 consecutive holes in one.

The Affordable Care Act was signed at the top of the Baekdu Mountain as a double rainbow arched across the sky and new stars flared overhead.

The ACA learned to walk when it was three weeks old and was talking within two months. The operas it wrote are better than anything written in the history of music.

The ACA is the father of the nation and the sun that shines. It guided us through the dark times, and Obama is its prophet.

[Sevo]

O'care has decided that henceforth, there will be no death panels as no one will die in the future.
And there will be no cost to assure no one dies.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Both sides lie like hell, Drunk Irish.

You have your wingnuts claiming 100 million people will lose their insurance in 2014.

"Death Panels" was the Lie of the Year in 2009 then "Government takeover of health care" was the next Lie of the Year.

It is all about making a lie stick. Wingnuts excel at it with AM redneck radio going at it 24/7.

[cavalier973]

It's a dirty lie until the day it happens; then it becomes the beneficial feature that we were all wanting anyway, amirite?

[Some call me Tim?]

IPAB is a real thing, you know that, right?

[SweatingGin]

He'll figure it out, like the obsolete man, in the Twilight Zone episode.

[Jordan]

Is that like IHOP or something?

[Palin's Buttplug]

Yes, IPAB is needed to cut out the Medicare bullshit like $6000 scooter ripoffs.

No one will be put to death though - that is wingnut myth.

[Sevo]

"No one will be put to death though - that is wingnut myth."

Of course not, you ignorant pile of shit! O'care will just pay every bit as much as anyone wishes to live as long as they can possibly do! Cost is no object! Shreek is paying for it! There will never be a panel who decides when to pull the plug, right?
How stupid are you?

[Palin's Buttplug]

Medicare should not pay for frivolous and unnecessary surgery, you "free shit" proponent.

Us taxpayers are on the hook for that bullshit.

[Sevo]

Palin's Buttplug|11.22.13 @ 11:35PM|#
"Medicare should not pay for frivolous and unnecessary surgery, you "free shit" proponent."

So you admit you're full of shit? Good.

[Irish]

"Medicare should not pay for frivolous and unnecessary surgery, you "free shit" proponent anything."

Fixed.

[Irish]

Yes, they will never say 'let's put that guy to death!' What they'll do is say 'let's ration care' which will have a similar impact.

Progs seem to have accepted the argument that if a panel doesn't directly send a sick patient to the guillotine it doesn't count as a death panel.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Medicare is not supposed to be a blank check for any bullshit procedure some old bag wants.

Jeez, am I the only one here that cares about cutting spending?

[Sevo]

If you just decide to withhold care, it's not a death-panel/death-panel. It's just sort of, well, you really can't keep your doctor. Right, shreek?

[Irish]

"Death Panels" was the Lie of the Year in 2009 then "Government takeover of health care" was the next Lie of the Year.

Except that Canada essentially has death panels and liberals are already talking about how we should bring them here.

You're also ignoring the fact that the number 1 argument from the left after the Obamacare debacle has been 'There's just two much market left! SINGLE PAYER!'

Those two things you claimed to be lies are actually accurate representations of the left's goal.

[PapayaSF]

"Death Panels" was the Lie of the Year in 2009

In retrospect, it turns out the real lie of that year (if not the decade) was "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period."

[Redmanfms]

Sidecar

- 1.5 ounce cognac (VSOP preferably)
- 3/4 ounce triple sec
- 3/4 ounce lemon juice
- sugar

Coat cocktail glass rim with sugar and allow to dry. Add cognac, triple sec, and lemon juice to shaker with ice. Strain into glass and garnish with orange peel.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Awesome cocktail.

[Redmanfms]

Bourbon Rickey

- 1.5 ounces bourbon
- lime
- club soda

Fill highball glass with ice and add bourbon. After cutting a center slice, juice lime halves into glass, add club soda to fill. Stir. Garnish with lime slice.

[Palin's Buttplug]

When I go to a good bar I always order cocktails like a Sidecar or an Old-Fashioned because I don't keep the ingredients at home.

Also a Mojito - but that one has made a big comeback since the James Bond movie.

[SweatingGin]

Jebus, I hope you have the ingredients for an old fashioned at home.

If not, it's like you live in a bag or something.

Glass.
Teaspoon of sugar (simple syrup works better)
3 dashes of bitters
Ice
Bourbon (or rye)

~ stir ~

Add orange peel (lemon is fine if that's all you have)

Done.

That's it. That's all. It's one step shy of perfection, because sometimes, that's right (perfection is to use rye, and absinthe rinse, and Peychaud's bitters -- a sazerac)

[Palin's Buttplug]

Right now I don't have an orange slice or bitters (and you forgot the cherry).

I don't do what you do for the same reason I don't keep an ounce of cocaine around - I have a substance abuse issue.

[General Butt Naked]

I have a substance abuse issue.

Lemme guess, Bush's fault?

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

BEER

Open Bottle.
Enjoy.

[SweatingGin]

Hoser! Beer comes in cans, eh?

[Irish]

Open Bottle.
Enjoy.

Well, step two isn't likely if it's Canadian.

[jesse.in.mb]

Well, step two isn't likely if it's Canadian.

A fellow I know loves Labatt Blue because he grew up in Michigan and lives in Los Angeles for work. I've been trying to find some for him, but Californians have good enough sense to not even stock it. He said something positive about Rolling Rock the other night and I was half tempted to have him committed for a mental health eval.

I think I'm going to check the Beverage Warehouse near Marina Del Rey this weekend. Their website says that have it and Aguardiente Antioqueno, which I need to pick up for a family friend anyway, and I was previously going to Hi-Time Wine in Costa Mesa for it.

[SweatingGin]

Molson Tripple X might get him through the withdrawals, but it's not substitute.

As a Michigander who grew up on Labatte, you're a good friend, jesse.in.mb.

[jesse.in.mb]

you're a good friend, jesse.in.mb.

I wish that were true. I told him I was CERTAIN I'd seen it somewhere in the area, in hindsight it may have been in Upstate NY where a chunk of my family lives and Canadian products spill over more easily (but not ketchup chips *shakes fist angrily at sky*). But now I've put my correctness on the line and by God he's getting some Labatt.

[SweatingGin]

"But now I've put my correctness on the line and by God he's getting some Labatt."

Damn right.

One of the fun things about living in an area where the US border patrol can go wild no matter what, is that I get to listen to Canadian radio stations. When CBC is on strike, they play classical. If only NPR could approach that level of usefulness.

But anyway. US and Candian Dollar at par. Ads on the Canadian station. Get an 18 pack of blue in bottles for only $35. Seriously? like $15 or less on sale in the metro-detroit area.

Better than blue is Labatt Green(ale, never find that shit in the states), or Labatt Genuine Draft (Hab version of Blue)

[Irish]

If you're ever in the Midwest, I recommend both New Glarus and Revolution Brewing.

Unfortunately, New Glarus is only really sold in Wisconsin, so you'd have to cross into cow country to buy any. I usually buy as much as I can haul when I'm in Madison and bring it back to Chicago with me.

[SweatingGin]

I'll have to watch for those.

Revolution brewing looks too commie, until you see the Red Skull brew, and then it's like, "oh, it's ironic"

[Irish]

I have no idea if they're ironic or not. They've got all kinds of fake Communist looking propaganda in their brewery. I think it's a joke, but I also originally thought that Shephard Fairey's obsession with Communist propaganda was a joke...and look how that turned out.

[SweatingGin]

I suppose all that really matters is if the beer is good, and if they'll take federal reserve notes for it.

[jesse.in.mb]

I love Soviet Realism. This hangs in my room.

I find it aesthetically pleasing AND as a bonus I can buy cheap art prints of the propaganda art of our nation's greatest nemesis without ever leaving my house. Capitalism rocks my motherfucking socks.

[Francisco d Anconia]

He said something positive about Rolling Rock the other night

Teh Rock is what we drank in NEPA when we couldn't afford beer.

[SweatingGin]

Rolling rock is like white wine. It's fine, tastes fine. But you can't get drunk on it.

I mean, really can't. Case of bottles sitting there, slight buzz..

[jesse.in.mb]

The last time I had Rolling Rock I got grumpy and headachey before I got drunk.

[SweatingGin]

Sounds about right.

I'm sure I went far into a case of rolling rock before, but the moment that stands out in my mind is drinking 3/4 of a case of MGD (bottles) and being able to stand up, function, take care of business.

Friend's girlfriend drank the remaining 6-pack. She would make a fine Wisconsin woman for anyone, but we weren't in Wisconsin.

While we're hitting terrible beer, a favorite moment of mine... no this needs it's own post.

[SweatingGin]

Sounds about right.

I'm sure I went far into a case of rolling rock before, but the moment that stands out in my mind is drinking 3/4 of a case of MGD (bottles) and being able to stand up, function, take care of business.

Friend's girlfriend drank the remaining 6-pack. She would make a fine Wisconsin woman for anyone, but we weren't in Wisconsin.

While we're hitting terrible beer, a favorite moment of mine... no this needs it's own post.

[SweatingGin]

One of my favorites

[SweatingGin]

One of my favorites

[Sevo]

Echo...echo...echo...

[SweatingGin]

It's a Kochspiracy from Reason to make me look like an idjit.

(more of one).

[Killazontherun]

brewed this earlier this evening.
American 2-row Malt 10.0 lb
Crisp Amber Malt 2 LB
Weyermann Rye Malt, White 1 lb 8 oz

Simcoe 1.0 oz 60 min Boil
Cascade 1.0 oz 30 min Boil
Cascade 0.5 oz 5 min Boil
Centennial 0.5 oz 5 min Boil
Centennial 0.5 oz 14 days Dry Hop
Simcoe 0.5 oz 14 days Dry Hop
Cascade 0.5 oz 14 days Dry Hop

Addition: 2 oz of Jasmine Tea leaves to the dry hopping. An Indian brand gifted to me from a friend returning from there, has a strong honey aroma.

Originally started as a barleywine, the recipe is evolving into an amber rye. Chinook was the hop used for bittering originally, but I believe Simcoe is proving to be the more suitable match for the rye.

[Killazontherun]

Oh, the yeast is a culture harvested from a bottle of SN Pale Ale. I believe they use a Wyeast II series.

[SweatingGin]

Nice!

I *still* haven't gone all grain.

I caught from my local homebrew store that a lot of commercial ales may end up bottled with a lager yeast to finish it off. If you've done it before, though, it should be safe.

[Killazontherun]

This strain has been very reliable, much more so than the ones I purchased without the beer! Empty out 20 oz from your bomber, leave open in a sterile environment so the alcohol dissipates, add sugar, you'll get a good culture. I've done the same to a Belgian quad as well, as I intend to make a batch one day. It'll need a strain that can render a higher ABV.

[SweatingGin]

excellent.

I should bottle my pumpkin ale this weekend, obviously didn't get it pre-halloween or thanksgiving even.

Need to start something, thinking my next try my be full balls-to-the-wall pilsner -- get everything right, or it sucks.

Other option is trying a barley wine.

[Killazontherun]

I hear you, I've never done one either. The great thing about ales is there is so much flavor there, you get something a little off, it'll find another aspect of the mix to balance with, if you don't screw up too poorly. Pilsner's though, such a straight up lager style, you notice right off when something is not right.

Barleywines are pretty simple. Ton of malt, hop addition like an IPA for the American style, or a bitter brown for the English.

Here was the recipe that my amber rye evolved from --

http://www.brewtoad.com/recipes/bigfoot-clone

[SweatingGin]

When I tell someone what a barley wine is, I say "take a normal beer, and double all the ingredients (except water, of course)"

My usual brew is a fat tire clone, but doing it as a lager. Some lager yeast, chilled for the fermentation.

I like the way it comes out a lot. Needs a while to age.

[Killazontherun]

That malt profile has my mouth watering. I am intrigued.

[Killazontherun]

All grain is definitely the way to go. It's actually dirt cheap compared to kits. That rye cost me, well, here take a look --

http://www.northernbrewer.com/.....-malt.html

[Sevo]

"And since that time, 2.5 MILLION more young people have health insurance because they can stay on their parent's plan until they are 26. And since 2010, health insurance companies could no longer deny health insurance to children because of a pre-existing condition. That has been the law before the website even launched.)"

So since that time, free-loaders have been able to grab other peoples' money? Did anyone get any real result from this, or just the satisfaction of being a parasite?

[Palin's Buttplug]

How do paid premiums make someone a "freeloader"?

The insurers have been riding that profit gravy train on the under-26 crowd for two years.

[Sevo]

Palin's Buttplug|11.22.13 @ 11:32PM|#
"How do paid premiums make someone a "freeloader"?"

You're stupid enough, I'll presume that is a real question.
Answer: When the premiums paid in no way cover the costs and/or risks involved.
See how easy that is?

[Irish]

How do paid premiums make someone a "freeloader"?

Because those 'paid premiums' are actually socialized so that those young people and their parents don't bear the full price.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Oh Bullshit. The insurers have been racking up record profits since Obamacare was passed.

[Sevo]

Palin's Buttplug|11.23.13 @ 12:04AM|#
"Oh Bullshit. The insurers have been racking up record profits since Obamacare was passed."

Hey, dipshit, tell us again about how companies *never* change prices in advance of presumed regulations.
It's always good for a laugh.

[Redmanfms]

Rum Flip

- 1.5 ounces dark rum
- 1/2 ounce heavy cream
- 1 raw egg

Add ingredients to shaker with ice and shake vigorously. Strain into cocktail glass. Garnish with nutmeg.

[Killazontherun]

eggnog?

[SweatingGin]

having not made this before, when doing whisky sours with egg, it's helpful to:

1) add all the ingredients *except* ice to the shaker
2) shake
3) add ice and shake again

When you use egg in a drink, you're making an emulsion, like if you were making artisan mayonnaise, just instead of oil, you're using whiskey.

It makes an emulsion better if it is room temperature/no ice to get in the way. Then add ice to chill it.

[Jugwine Warren]

Look at that cute little guy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFBkmGDBZo

[SweatingGin]

Is 'dat some two-stroke?

Have to imagine whoever was driving it was loving it. "Want to drive a 70 year old tank across a parking lot? Today's your day!"

[Jugwine Warren]

I love the Stugs and the Swedish S-Tank.

I know they give up some capability but the low cost simplicity and the low silhouette are quite appealing.

[seguin]

That whole group of assault guns/tank destroyers are my favorite WWII tracked vehicle. Semoventi, Hetzers, Zrinyi, the Maresal prototype.

[jesse.in.mb]

'Nother shooting at LAX, got stuck in the traffic. Cops everywhere. More to follow.

[SweatingGin]

fuckers need to stop shooting and blowing up dry ice at LAX.

[jesse.in.mb]

Terminal 4, arrivals level is all I've gotten out of my friend at the airport.

[SweatingGin]

Twitter says car hit parking garage
Link.

Only anything in the last 30 seconds from "news" sources. Think it's Jesse's scoop.

Reason says "THERE WAS A PROBLEM POSTING YOUR COMMENT"

[playa manhattan]

'Twas a car crash.

[jesse.in.mb]

Lame.

I still got to the story first with my harrowing tale of extra traffic at LAX.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

What you did was like yelling fire in a crowded theater! Officers, arrest this scoundrel!

[SweatingGin]

We're just glad you're all right.

[playa manhattan]

They routinely shut down tunnel traffic when there is a VIP flight. It angers me like nothing else.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

You sure? Because I'm watching the local news right now and they're talking about dogs that perform yoga.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

ITS A CONSPIRACY

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

Turns out an SUV crashed into the wall of a parking garage. So of course the LAPD stormed the terminal with their ARs and scared the shit out of people by making them get on the floor.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

A traffic accident outside Terminal 4 at LAX triggered reports of shots fired Friday sending hundreds of travelers into a panic.

lax-faux-shooting
Travelers hit the ground after report of 'shots fired' at LAX. Police say it was result of a traffic accident. (Credit: FOX 8)

Pictures from the scene show travelers on the floor surrounded by heavily armed police officers.

It all started around 7:30 p.m. when a traffic accident that occurred outside the terminal created a loud noise, according to LAX Police Sgt. Karla Ortiz.

There is no indication at this time that any shots were fired, Ortiz said.

Read more: http://ktla.com/2013/11/22/tra.....z2lRKVPjHN

[Jordan]

HA! I knew it. A shooting inside a gun free zone in a state in which assault weapons are banned? SHENANIGANS!

[PapayaSF]

Williamson County, Tenn., prosecutors filed a motion against defense attorney Drew Justice. "The State has noticed in the past few years that it has become commonplace during trials for attorneys for defendants, and especially Mr. Justice, to refer to State's attorneys as 'the Government'," the motion complained. "The State believes that such a reference is used in a derogatory way and is meant to make the State's attorney seem oppressive and to inflame the jury." Justice countered with his own motion. If he couldn't call prosecutors "the Government," then they shouldn't call his client "the Defendant," and instead should them "Mister", "the Citizen Accused", or ? since defendants are considered innocent until proven guilty ? "that innocent man." Of course, how they refer to Justice should change as well, he argued. "Counsel for the Citizen Accused should be referred to primarily as the 'Defender of the Innocent'," he said. "Alternatively, counsel would also accept the designation 'Guardian of the Realm'." He continued that "Whenever addressed by name, the name 'Captain Justice' will be appropriate." In the end, the judge threw out the prosecution's motion. "He said the word 'government' wasn't derogatory," Justice explained.

[PapayaSF]

The original story, but summary above is from This Is True.

[Some call me Tim?]

Your only about 10-14 days late on this one...

[PapayaSF]

I was on vacation with limited internet time and motivation for 12 days. If I have amused even one H+R reader, the repetition was worth it.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

Cal mathematics professor explains why he won't strike

One of the things you can lose track of when you attend a top tier university like Berkeley is just how exceptional and amazing you really are...Sadly, however, I know many of you don't feel that way. The difficulty you all face is that as you look around at all your fellow students, it's easy to have your eye drawn by people doing better than you. Or rather, I should say people who look like they're doing better than you. In reality the true extent of how much people are learning can be difficult to measure. Sometimes failures and adversity are better preparations for long term success than effortless progress.
[...]
You need to optimize your life for learning.

You need to live and breath your education.

You need to be *obsessed* with your education.

Do not fall into the trap of thinking that because you are surrounded by so many dazzlingly smart fellow students that means you're no good. Nothing could be further from the truth.

And do not fall into the trap of thinking that you focusing on your education is a selfish thing. It's not a selfish thing. It's the most noble thing you could do.

[playa manhattan]

Ahhhh, good old Math 1A at UC Berkeley... I was but a masturbating 16 year old teenager when I tested out of that course and went straight into Math 53....

Good luck to the students, though.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

I applied for Berkeley but didn't get in, not that I at all regret. Here are some comments:

JAN MINTZ REPLIED ON NOVEMBER 22, 2013 - 5:25PM PERMALINK
Professor Coward's credentials speak volumes about his intelligence.
Many of his comments, especially about the "controversy surrounding climate change" are troubling, to say the least.
I realize Cal is no longer the bastion of free speech and progressive thought, I hadn't realized the very decided step right the institution had taken. Thank goodness California still has Stanford.

NORA REPLIED ON NOVEMBER 22, 2013 - 5:52PM PERMALINK
Congratulations for crossing a picket line, trying to defuse the impact of your co-workers' strike, and then trying to justify the whole thing in a long, semi-incoherent ramble about nebulous idealism. I think you *are* selfish, sir.

ANDREW POLLACK REPLIED ON NOVEMBER 22, 2013 - 7:40PM PERMALINK
What a self-righteous, self-centered, hypocritical scab.
Not only is he breaking the strike by teaching his own classes, he'll be doing the work of two strikers!
Here's hoping the strike is strong enough to stop him from scabbing.
Andrew Pollack, former shop steward for Columbia U. UAW Local

How dare this man demonstrate what little value some of these strikers contribute!

[Irish]

I realize Cal is no longer the bastion of free speech and progressive thought, I hadn't realized the very decided step right the institution had taken. Thank goodness California still has Stanford.

That's probably because free speech and progressive thought are incompatible. I don't think there's a progressive left who actually values free speech in any meaningful way.

What a self-righteous, self-centered, hypocritical scab.
Not only is he breaking the strike by teaching his own classes, he'll be doing the work of two strikers!
Here's hoping the strike is strong enough to stop him from scabbing.
Andrew Pollack, former shop steward for Columbia U. UAW Local

Teaching students is evil if you don't toe the party line!

[playa manhattan]

Lion?

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

If you have the patience, here's a rebuttal from the Cal Student-Workers Union

Your letter though extensive in length, does not contain any logic. From what I can gather, your argument is that we live in a world of developing technology and as students at UCB are part of an elite and exceptional group; therefore we don't have to worry about the society we live in. I cannot condone this argument. In fact, I find it extremely disturbing that as a professor you are encouraging your students to embrace egoism and to focus on their own education and merit rather than be socially conscious human beings. Education and social justice are not mutually exclusive. Disturbingly, throughout the entirety of your long and disjointed tirade, you do not once mention any of the reasons behind Wednesday's strike, which makes me believe that you have already made a choice to focus purely on what you refer to as the "technological life".

And yet it is the bio student who figures out a way to better screen for genetic diseases or the engineering student who figures out how to make 3D printing more efficient and complex will do more to increase human welfare than the guy who writes angry blog posts or organizes strikes.

The letter writer is a GSI in molecular bio, but he's the short-sighted one.

[playa manhattan]

"Education and social justice are not mutually exclusive."

Citation Fucking Needed. I won't hold my breath.

[Sevo]

Hell, I'd settle for a *definition* of "social justice".

[Francisco d Anconia]

Hell, I'd settle for a *definition* of "social justice".

Taking from those who've earned it and giving to those who have not.

[Sevo]

"Taking from those who've earned it and giving to those who have not."
What's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable.
Living in SF, I've heard that...

[PapayaSF]

Education and social justice are not mutually exclusive.

But justice and "social justice" are.

[Irish]

Education and social justice also are mutually exclusive.

Now, indoctrination and social justice, on the other hand...

[Irish]

Sidenote: What kind of commie trash do you have to be to think Cal isn't a bastion of progressive thought? Did that guy just get back from a People's Meeting in Havana?

[playa manhattan]

Someone who has never set foot on Berkeley's campus. I assure you that there is bullshit at every turn. There was bullshit when I went there at the turn of the millennium, and there was bullshit when I went back there to visit last spring. Bullshit all around, pretty much.

[playa manhattan]

I can say for certain that none of these commenters are math students, and I will likely be supporting them with my tax dollars in the near future.

P.S. "Thank goodness California still has Stanford". Has this guy not heard of the Hoover Institution?

[Irish]

Stanford is definitely less progressive than Berkeley. Thomas Sowell currently is a fellow at the Hoover institute.

[playa manhattan]

Hoover Institution. Yeah, I had to google it. It didn't seem right to me, but that's what it's called.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

What if every city did this:

Voters deliver resounding no to Munich 2022 Winter Olympics bid

[Sevo]

"Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."

[SweatingGin]

Phones ringing dude.

[SweatingGin]

Community College Racism Lesson backfires.

The only Affirmative-Action-Bakesale jokes I can come up with all reference American, so someone help me out with that, please.

Alternative titles is "What the fuck? Community College students being offended is news?!?" I'm more inclined to go with that.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

But in an interview with Beck Kilkenny of City College News, the campus newspaper, Gibney said she's the one being treated unfairly.

"Those students were trying to undermine my authority from the get go," she said. "I tried to say, like, 'OK, you guys are taking it personally, this is not a personal attack. I'm not talking about all white people, you white people in general. We're talking about whiteness as a system of oppression.'"

Bullshit artists seldom like being called out on their bullshit.

[SweatingGin]

RACIST!

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

How do you think Ms. Gibney would take it if a white person made an argument that offended her and their defense was "don't take it personally"?

[SweatingGin]

That's the point, stupid and shallow as it is.

Right? I hope that's the point?

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

Yes, I follow.

[Irish]

Those students were trying to undermine my authority from the get go

Given how frequently modern progressive arguments go back to 'authority' and 'respect' they should really stop pretending they aren't fascists.

I mean, they seem completely obsessed with everyone around them unquestioningly granting them whatever authority they claim to have. This is not the way rational human beings behave.

[SweatingGin]

After the Senate rule change to remove the filibustering of judicial and executive nominees, the mask is gone. No need for a mask.

Essentially, removing that said "we're no longer afraid of what the Teathuglicans will do with this power".

So there can't be a Teathuglican majority in the Senate and a Teathuglican president, ever again. No safety net. If you're running a re-election campaign, don't fuck up. If you fuck up, say hello to Attorney General Akin.

No mask. Do whatever is necessary to prevent AG Akin. Yes, we made that situation possible, but do *whatever* is necessary to stop it.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

That's was my experience with one professor I had in community college. Then again the other one I had was a Marxist but she was actually a good teacher as far as welcoming class debate and letting people who disagreed with her talk. I liked her for that.

[Killazontherun]

I had a communist professor, a white Rhodesian, who was the same way. We did an in class debate on the merits of the Vietnam war, no one wanted to take the pro-war side, so I volunteered, and killed the squishies (they weren't so much anti-war, as they were rhetorically lacking any balls). He almost hugged me after class for bringing the stimulation to the argument.

[PapayaSF]

Given how frequently modern progressive arguments go back to 'authority' and 'respect' they should really stop pretending they aren't fascists.

I wouldn't go that far, but isn't it perfectly ironic that modern progressives sound exactly like the squarest establishment-supporting types of 1967 talking to hippies and protestors?

[SweatingGin]

Ironic doesn't really go far enough anymore.

[Irish]

I wouldn't go that far, but isn't it perfectly ironic that modern progressives sound exactly like the squarest establishment-supporting types of 1967 talking to hippies and protestors?

You mean the people that the progressives used to call fascists? That kind of proves my point.

[Gojira]

He should have retorted, "Don't take it personally, I'm not talking about you specifically or black people in general. We're talking about blackness as a system of generational welfare-ism."

[NotAnotherSkippy]

Who else can keep the fresh young minds on the right track? Don't you realize that the Koch brothers are paying to have every college student baptized by Rush Limbaugh?! Wake the fuck up!

[SweatingGin]

Above, I got to talking beer with Jesse and Irish, and I'm sure a few others...

While we're hitting terrible beer, a favorite moment of mine... no this needs it's own post.

Worst beer? I once took a case of Carling Black Label ice fishing.

The Ohio State boys drank it in about five minutes, between cornholing.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Red, White and Blue.

[SweatingGin]

PBR? I have bought a 30 pack of it, occasionally, but I'd just say...

Mable! Black Label!

[Jugwine Warren]

Olympia

[jesse.in.mb]

You know what's awful? Hipsters. So I used to hang out at a coffee house and one of the baristas was 19 or 20. Some of his hipster friends were waiting for him to finish up and they all asked me to pick some beer up for them. I asked them what they wanted and they started listing off things like Steel Reserve and PBR. I paused taking notes looked the one who was talking dead in the eye and said "I'm sorry I didn't realize you were poor." He responded "What, no I like these beers!." My mind reeled, but I recovered and said "Ah so you're just stupid, please continue."

[SweatingGin]

"Steel Reserve"

Hardcore Alcoholics. To be, or in fact.

Or Felix Potvin.

Charge them premium rates, deliver shit beer, drink on the margin. Replace Monocle.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Piels pounders. $2.99 a six. Fond memories.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Schaefer is the...

[SweatingGin]

I *AM* having more than one!

Is this the beer for me!??!

[Francisco d Anconia]

My dad seemed to like it along with Genny Cream.

[SweatingGin]

Also a MI brew, I believe.

[SweatingGin]

Not at all MI, Rochestor NY, I was mistaken.

[jesse.in.mb]

I thought Genesee Cream sounded familiar. That's the area of NY my folks are from.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Gave you the worst smelling farts in the world.

We called them the Genny Screamers.

[SweatingGin]

IF you're going hunting/ice fishing/fishing with a bunch of guys, and want to really go chemical warfare...

Drink one of these before setting out... and hit the window lock.

Bonus points for turning on the child safety locks on back doors before the trip.

[Killazontherun]

Reminds me, an easy way to raise the abv in an all grain, add a Beano tablet. Breaks down some otherwise unbreakable sugars in the malt. You'll get some of the nastier alcohols too, but if you subject the brew to 150 degrees before bottling, you burn off the low ender crap and leave the good stuff in tack.

[Irish]

Worst beer I've ever had is Mountain Creek. Here's the beer, if you're wondering. It's got a solid 2 out of 10 on RateBeer.com.

I drank this once in college because I saw that you could buy a 24 pack for 9 dollars. I was going to be drinking heavily at a block party, so I imagined that I could just start drinking those cheap ass beers when I was already drunk and I wouldn't care how bad they were.

I was wrong. They are undrinkable.

[SweatingGin]

Camo. 24 oz cans. Atrocious. sickeningly sweet.

Colt 45? Despite what Lando says, it doesn't work every time.

Cobra. Ouch. headache just thinking about it.

[Jugwine Warren]

Cobra has a great can though.

[playa manhattan]

So does camo, obviously.

[Cytotoxic]

All beer is undrinkable shit.

[SweatingGin]

fuck you, beer is just whiskey that hasn't grown up yet.

[playa manhattan]

This guy is a troll. I'm sure of it now.

[Snark Plissken]

You are officially banned from the Czech Republic.

[Snark Plissken]

Olympia was pretty bad. I just googled and see they no longer exist.

[Jugwine Warren]

Wow. Back in the late 60's early 70's that was one of my mom's boyfriend's go to beer.

[SweatingGin]

Let me get you a Stroh's.

I hear someone from here is in Colorado, maybe they can get you some real Coors.

[Jugwine Warren]

Coors was yet another boyfriend's beer.

Did I mention they both had speedboats? She had a type.

[SweatingGin]

I really hope you weren't my step brother.

[Snark Plissken]

I don't know about the 70s but by the mid 80s that was some raunchy stuff. On the other hand Dustin Hoffman drinks one in the Graduate and he was a rich punk.

[playa manhattan]

Olympia's motto, I shit you not:
"It's the water."

I had it more of it in college than I care to admit.

[Jugwine Warren]

It is water! Was our retort.

[SweatingGin]

Great dive bars include the "8 ball" in Ann Arbor. They'd have a $4 pitcher draft. Used to be Old Style or Hamm's, but if they changed it, they would give you whatever pitcher was $4.

I haven't gone in there since the MI smoking in bars ban. I can't imagine how bad that place would smell without nicotine covering it up.

It's a perfect dive, really. Smells like nicotine and tears, has a trough urinal and a cigarette machine. What else could you want?

[jesse.in.mb]

has a trough urinal

These exist outside of fetishy gay bars?

[SweatingGin]

dive bars, fetish gay bars, and baseball stadiums.

Wrigley is Awesome

[Irish]

Wrigley is Awesome

He said to give an example that isn't a fetishy gay bar.

[Snark Plissken]

There's a pretty famous bar in Juarez with a trough urinal around it. I think Hemingway is supposed to have drunk there.

[The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc]

Hemingway drunk from a urinal trough? He really was the most interesting man in the world.

[Snark Plissken]

Not just him

Visit the "Kentucky" Bar, one of the oldest bars in Juarez where many famous people like John Wayne, Steve McQueen, Elizabeth Taylor, Richard Burton, and Jack Dempsey have walked out on all fours. Kentucky bar is supposedly the birthplace of the Margarita and is across the Santa Fe bridge, and is only a few blocks down on the strip.

[Sevo]

So the small-school football game is on ESPN over there, and they get to the 4th quarter before they do some whine about JFK (glad it took that long), but one of the Navy players is named Wave Rider? Am I hearing that correctly? Really?

[SweatingGin]

I assume there's a Michigan joke in there, but it made me look at the ESPN schdeule, which turned up this gem:

Olbermann presented by Alka-Seltze... HDWatch

Ouch. That must hurt. From best-in-sports(center) to MSNBC, to... presented by Ala-Seltzer.

[jesse.in.mb]

Just baked up a 1/4 semolina 3/4 white bread in a french boule style with an egg wash and sesame seeds. I left it in just a smidge longer to get a crispier crust than past iterations.

[playa manhattan]

Brag when you cook some meat.

[playa manhattan]

Disclaimer: It's to late to start a BBQ flame war. But it is also very unlibertarian to discuss baking bread.

[SweatingGin]

Bread is just beer without enough water.

[jesse.in.mb]

I cook meat all the time. Also what better way to soak up meat drippings than fresh baked bread?

[playa manhattan]

No Facebook photos of meat, no recipes posted. I call shenanigans!

[jesse.in.mb]

I scaled back on the this is what I'm cooking photos. This is in there somewhere.

[playa manhattan]

How do you do the anonymous Facebook photo links?

Also, didn't you just do a donut post not too long ago?

[jesse.in.mb]

Right click on the photo and select "view image" and use that abstracted url.

That was more of a friends getting together and doing something than it was me just taking a snapshot of a plate or pan of food. There are a few recent pictures of food though that are just food, but they're much rarer than they were three or so years ago.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Appropriate?

You were all thinking it.

[SweatingGin]

No idea why that is appropriate, but it says "official video".

I have it on good authority that this was the official video for that song.

I've posted it before, I'll post it again. Not sorry.

[playa manhattan]

I won a karaoke award in the desert for singing that song. Or maybe it was an award for being drunk. I can't remember.

[Francisco d Anconia]

No one gets it?

[playa manhattan]

At this point, I assume I don't.

[Atanarjuat]

It's a JFK reference.

/mansplaining

[SweatingGin]

ON! Topic:

This is what one of the better Bitcoin market tracking pages has to say about the new highs. Site here.

Time for me to sleep. Night all.

[Francisco d Anconia]

WOLVERINES!

That Pat Swayze...

...what an act-tor.

[playa manhattan]

I'm headed out for the next few hours. You guys keep this thread going!
GN!

[Gojira]

FUCK YOU STATIST, YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!

Oh shit, I kept the thread going by saying that, didn't I?

Damn you playa, but you are a crafty one.

[Snark Plissken]

He didn't go to Berkeley when he was twelve for nothing.