President Obama Covers Up an Old Lie With a New One

If you're a fan of comic books or other types of serial fiction, you're probably familiar with the concept of the "retcon"—a made-up word that stands for "retroactive continuity."
For the not-so-geeky, the basic idea is that the authors of some long-running storyline change previously established facts within the narrative. Often the idea is to facilitate new storylines, or, less generously, to help struggling serial writers work themselves out of some difficult plot corner they've written themselves into.
Fans sometimes complain about the way the practice can upend complex stories that have been developing for years. But in general, they're expected to just go along and accept that the old story is gone, and the new story is what really happened.
I wonder if President Obama is a comic book fan. Because with the updated version of his oft-repeated promise that individuals who like their health plans can keep them, he's essentially retconned himself.
Here's how Obama described his promise yesterday: "Now, if you had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn't changed since the law passed."
This isn't just an update. It's a backwards revision. Obama is not just changing his claim going forward—he's attempting to alter what he said in the past as well.
Let's look through some back issues for a moment. Here's what Obama used to say about the circumstances under which you can keep your health plan, via New York Magazine.
Got that? If you're happy with your plan, nobody's changing it. If you like your plan, you can keep it. You will keep it. Nobody's changing it.
There are no exceptions here, no qualifications or caveats. It's a promise, as Obama has said, period. No matter what.
This is what Obama actually said. But now he's saying it's not. He's covering for his old lie with a new one—an insistence that he never misled in the first place. And he's hoping that everyone just goes along. The most ardent fanboys might buy it. But most people, I suspect, will see it for the artless and desperate revisionism that it is.
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I admit that it isn't as pithy as "Bush lied, people died" but at least my new catchphrase has the fact that it is true going for it. Do you think it might catch on?:
Obama lied, basic economics belied, people complied, tried, applied, Healthcare.gov denied, people decried, cancer people cried, Democrats shied, Obama in stride denied - but as always, Obama lied.
Why not something simpler: Obama lied, insurance was denied.
+1000 Sloganeering!
Chicken was fried?
Yeah yeah: RAAAACIST!
Obama lied, cancer patients died.
They had a shitty plan anyway.
They had a shitty plan life anyway
/Death Panelist
insurance can't be denied! these people will still have policies, only 5 times as expensive. but that's only a temporary inconvenience for a very very very small number of people.
An inconvenience only for the rich and undeserving. All proles will be better off.
And the most of the media will make note that he's corrected the "lies of the tea-partiers!"
In Suderman's retcon he didn't take this premise from my AM Links post!
The backstory - the secret reveal - is I started this post last night!
Now that's an effective retcon!
So, *any* of them could be cylons?
Superman is actually a robot all along.
Is the Spider-man pic a reference to the retcon in the One More Day story line?
Maybe Marvel will consider exposing black-hispanic-gay-in-no-way-resembles-Obama Ultimate Spider-Man as a fake and bring back Peter Parker.
Never read ultimates, mostly cuz ultimate hulk seemed stupid and ultimate Thor never shut up about evil corporations.
Marvel did say a while back they would never have a meetup between ultimates and the main marvel universe, saying a comic like that would prove they were out of ideas. Then a few years ago they had ultimate spider-man meet up with regular spider-man...
Remember the good old days when Marvel didn't suck?
Invasion. Crossover. Retcon. Somebody is being mean to the X-Men.
Marvel has been out of ideas for awhile now.
I liked Planet Hulk and World War Hulk, and Civil War and Secret Invasion had their moments, but ya its been downhill for awhile now. I really liked Dark Reign but sadly they never really fully explored the idea, and the comic with Norman Osborn convincing Saint Obama he's a good guy was vomit inducing.
It's all gone downhill since Secret Wars.
"Did someone say retcon?"
Manga
"We've always been at war with Eastasia"
+1 gram of chocolate
Tony defending a blatant lie and liar in 3...2....1...
My Obot Facebook friends don't even try defending their Messiah anymore. They're busy pushing distraction after distraction.
Did you hear Rand Paul is a plagarist!!??
People can't be trusted to do the right thing.
Bush!
God, I don't understand how people can be so bad at campaigning against this guy. Just run clips of him making speeches from 2-3 years apart.
They were terrified of being called racists. Both McCain and Romney refused to go after him because they knew the media would call them racists and they were afraid it would stick. That is stupid I know. But that is what they thought.
Contrast those campaigns to the way Bush went after Gore and Kerry in campaigns that were actually successful. If McCain had stuck Reverend Wright on Obama the way Bush stuck the swift boat guys on Kerry, he probably would have won.
In the reelection you don't have to even do any of that crap. Just clips of him on the campaign trail promising shit and then clips of him saying the exact opposite in a speech 3 years later.
Though I guess since Romney was the nominee he couldn't really criticize Obama for enforcing a health insurance mandate or staying in Iraq.
Indeed. There's only so much campaigning against Obama that you can do when you're Obama in whiteface.
Bullshit. You can go after him personally the way Obama went after Romney. Funny how everyone on here seems to think there was no difference between the two, yet Obama managed to convince the country Romney was a crazy out of touch billionaire who hated women.
That's not the point. The point is that Romney could never credibly run against the ObamaCare, because he passed the same thing (roughly) in Massachusetts.
Which is true. Half the time Romney was saying he was going to repeal the ACA. The other half of the time he was talking about how proud he was of MassCare.
Sure. But that doesn't mean he couldn't credibly have ran against Obama. And running against Obamacare wouldn't have worked anyway. It hadn't taken effect yet so no one would have believed how bad it was.
He should have gone after Obama personally and portrayed him as the out of touch incompetent that he is. But he didn't do that because he was too worried about the media calling him a racist. So instead he did nothing and let them call him a sexist and uncaring plutocrat.
I am late here, but...as long as we are talking 'should have's maybe we should go back a little further and look at whether Obomney should have been in the race to start with.
"Half the time Romney was saying he was going to repeal the ACA. The other half of the time he was talking about how proud he was of MassCare."
Not to mention that every time he said he would repeal the ACA, he made sure to add that he would replace it. So great, now we get Romney's version of government run health care. What a savior.
Its also that Obama was smart and sneaky about a lot of this stuff. Their is a reason the healthcare law is an issue here in 2013 and wasn't last year. Same goes for the sequester, Keystone pipeline, IRS scandal, Syria...ect. Lesson for future presidents, push everything off until after your reelection so you have plausible deniability about everything.
Well anyone who does is always handicapped by the media who can reliably be counted on to be in the tank for Obama.
For example during the government "shutdown", debt ceiling episode was there ANY MSM news outlet that reported what Senator Obama had said back when he voted against raising the debt ceiling when Bush was president? Did any of them ever point out his flipped position or hypocrisy on the matter?
Not a single one that I know of.
I wouldn't expect the media to help much, but that's why you just put that speech in your ad.
Well sure, but the point is that if the situation was the other way around with a Republican president, the media would be doing the Dems ads for them gratis by playing it up as a "news" story.
The media will always be in the tank for the Democrats. Anyone running against them always has that headwind to contend with.
yes, some media did bring up what Obama had said as Senator BUT they also excused it as political posturing and Obama's vote being meaningless since the issue of raising the debt ceiling had already been decided. They knew of his hypocrisy; they just didn't see it as hypocrisy.
As Ms. McArdle might say, it was just political hyperbole, not meant to be taken literally unless you're just a low-brow.
Wouldn't matter anyway, I don't think. Whenever I saw it brought up in forums, Obama defenders had some justification for why it was a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION that Obama was talking about before.
"Did any of them ever point out his flipped position or hypocrisy on the matter?"
I seem to recall a headline: "BUSH!". Does that count?
obviously this due to the machinations of Goldstein.
his super-power is irrational self regard for a middling IQ.
Most of it is behind a paywall, but you get the point:
"Young Avoid New Health Coverage
Insurers say the early buyers of health coverage on the troubled new websites are older than expected so far, raising early concerns about the economics of the insurance marketplaces."
http://online.wsj.com/itp
Young healthy people don't always want expensive plans which cover everything that anyone could possibly want to use?
Some might even want just coverage of catastrophic or unexpected things, not cradle to grave medical care for minor items. Just like you don't get car insurance to cover getting new tires or changing your oil.
You mean they might want those 'sub-par, junk policies' that the insurance companies were forcing people to buy?
Yep, the ones that people are forced to buy their own birth control and aspirin
Yep, the ones that people are forced to buy their own birth control and aspirin
Inhuman bastards!
"Yep, the ones that people are forced to buy their own birth control and aspirin"
Isn't it wonderful now that we have all these choices and no one is forcing anyone to do anything?
How does this birth control thing work? If I go to the pharmacy to buy some rubbers and I show my insurance card, I'll get them for free? What are the logistics of this?
yeah,k the ones that only cover when you're in the hospital so aren't even real insurance
It's not real insurance if it doesn't cover other people's substance abuse treatment!!!
Don't forget clean underwear, mothers and doctors both agree that clean underwear is needed for good health. We need affordable clean underwear care.
But, DJF, insurance is about cost-sharing. If you don't share the cost of other people's kids braces, then they won't share the cost of your prostate cancer, and then there would no insurance at all?
How could insurance exist if it's not comprehensive and community rated?
The thinking, it hurts!
But what if they get hit by a bus and suddenly have a kid?
Damn it. I was far too slow.
NO FUCKING WAY. Nobody wants that, never did, they were just deluded with false consciousness. They're bitter clingers to their worthless policies and need to be forced to walk the plank into an ocean of communal enlightenment.
It would be so funny to watch insurance companies lose money over this.
There's that word "expected" again. Expected by whom? Idiots who didn't know that people will respond to incentives and disincentives?
On an unrelated note, I heard Xbox One and PS4 will be on sale pretty soon.
It's too bad console sales will flop because young people have to tearfully choose healthcare over new new gen gaming machines.
The law stipulates that only the Secretary of Health and Human Services can determine if you like your current plan. And you don't.
'You'll take what we give you and pay what we say! And like it!'
I still have yet to find out if it *only* applies to the current HHS Secretary - what if a Repub gets in and retroactively removes the Fluke regs and/or bans abortions?
Love the "retcon" reference, has to be his nickname because it fits so well.
"Retcon Obama", like Tricky Dick and Slick Willy.
"Read my lips, I am not a crook, you can keep you plan if you like it, PERIOD."
I think in years to come PERIOD! will become a new culture catch phrase. At least every Repub running for Congress should use it next year.
So if you had one of those plans that didn't cover maternity, or pediatric dental care, or mental health or substance abuse treatment in the past, and the insurance company didn't slightly revise the wording of it, you can keep it.
But for your own good, in the future, you're going to be required to buy maternity, substance abuse, birth control, mental health, and pediatric dental care coverage. because I know what's best for you.
Well the definintion of a "substandard plan" has now become one that doesn't force you to subsidize a whole bunch of other people to the extent that Obama and the Dems want you to.
You were "substandardly" getting by with keeping too much of your own money.
Because not taking = giving.
It's not real insurance if it costs more if you have a pre-existing condition.
I realize you don't have a pre-existing condition, and that you've had the same policy for 10 years, but IF YOU DID, your insurance would be more expensive. Therefore it's not real.
Plus FREE RIDER
A post yesterday talked about convincing the public that the proposed insurance policies have value for THEM - that's the incentive to sign up and pay, even pay more. But this law is not designed to give THEM value, it's designed to give OTHERS value. And those people all that that someone making more than them were going to pay for everyone's health care.
Anyone remember when Hilary Banks got her first paycheck? "Where's my money? What's this...FICA?" "That's what you pay in to Social Security" "I thought other people did that!" and she was rich.
..."and the insurance company didn't slightly revise the wording of it, you can keep it."
If I'm not wrong, all they had to do was adjust the price for inflation, and bingo!
You never know when you'll get hit by a bus and find yourself needing maternity coverage.
UnitedHealth, one of the countries largest health insurance companies, provided a handy one page PDF ? (search publication UHCEW625359-000) to categorize the EHB's. Most individual and small group plans (with some State variations) will need to provide very specific coverage in these 10 categories:
1) Ambulatory patient services
2) Emergency services
3) Hospitalization
4) Laboratory services
5) Maternity and newborn care
6) Mental health and substance abuse services, including behavioral health treatment
7) Prescription drugs
8) Rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices
9) Preventive and wellness services and chronic disease management
10) Pediatric services, including oral and vision care
Might we note that UH has been pushing the Obamacare crap for a while now. We might also note that UH is notorious for being bad payers in the medical industry.
only a monster who hates children and steals from granny would not want to require every living person to be covered for all of these things.
So to me, the minimal list should really be:
1) Ambulatory patient services
2) Emergency services
3) Hospitalization
4) Laboratory services
I can see arguments for:
7) Prescription drugs
8) Rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices
9) Preventive and wellness services and chronic disease management
Prescription drugs, maybe, but with a separate deductible.
Rehabilitative, potentially yes, if someone loses a limb they should get a prosthetic. But I'd be happy to allow a lifetime cap or a time limit on this.
Preventive - arguably no, it's a good thing to have but should it be MANDATORY? No.
""""6) Mental health and substance abuse services, including behavioral health treatment"''
But I like all my mental health and substance abuse problems!
This requires a Whitney Houston rendition of,
"Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu---- eeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuhhh ---uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck (breath)
Eeee- Youoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, ohweeeeeewooooooooooo ooo......
......
......That's..... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
(for the children)
I can almost hear her wailing through your text.
(cringe)
Obama bin Lyin
Youtube: If you like your plan, you can keep it. Period.
HE'S SO AWESOME, HE'S SO PERFECT AND AWESOME!!!!!!1111
"Retcon" ...well, okay. And here I had always thought they just felt so superior that they were entitled to rule over the rest of us lesser beings. Therefore, no lie, fraud or untruth could ever be too big. They are, in their own eyes, the new royalty after all. Their loyal supporters knowing they are royalty would never consider telling their emperors they are wearing no clothes (or are lying through their teeth).
I notice a doctor standing behind Obama acting like a lying idiot. At this point, if you have any dignity or standards, you don't put yourself in that position.
probably just staffers they handed a white lab coat
Obama is trying to do an Orwellian memoryhole revision, but that doesn't work too well when journalists are still allowed to play clips of what you actually said.
Hopefully John Stewart or Colbert's staffwriters will be professional enough to take this and run with it, show the new lie and then show a pastiche of old clips showing it for a lie, over and over.
"You rubes just weren't paying attention when I uttered such caveat between the words 'you can keep it' and 'period.'"
He's doing nothing of the sort. He's simply lying his ass off, and expecting everybody else to believe him. I am sure a cadre of true fans will dismiss any and all logical arguments and objective facts that show that he lied the first time and is lying this time; but that does not change the fact that he is indeed lying through his teeth.
Uh. Oh.
http://www.whitehousedossier.c.....-expected/
"Now, if you had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn't changed since the law passed."
Is this his most mendacious statement yet? Can I get a top 10 list?
And notice the "we", not "I". What a fuck.
notice the "we"
That's called the pluralis maiestatis.
One was the public message, the other was the written law. That there was a difference was why the lie was needed in the first place, it would have never passed if people would have known what was in it.
The progs defend this by saying people are getting much better insurance - but with the higher mandated deductibles, many of the healthy, infrequent users of the system who are seeing the largest premium increases will also likely never see a penny of payout.
What's better about having these things covered if the deductible prevents one from receiving the benefit?
O has revealed his preferences in polychromatic effulgence.
No love for John Stewart nor Luke Cage?
Kevin R
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So you think this 9500 dolr is going to pay for all your health care?