Filner Wants City to Pay His Unsexy Legal Fees, Florida Rates Will Increase with ObamaCare, Even the Dead Get Farm Subsidies: P.M. Links

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  Bound and determined to compete with Anthony Weiner in the political scandal Olympics, San Diego Mayor Bob Filner wants the city to pay for his legal fees to fight charges of sexual harassment.

• A report from the Government Accountability Office says the Department of Agriculture failed to adequately check its lists and has paid out $32 million to farmers who are no longer farming, because they are dead.
• The black box recording recovered from the deadly train crash in Spain shows that the conductor was chatting away on the phone while traveling 95 miles per hour, nearly twice the speed limit.
• MIT evaluated the way it handled the Aaron Swartz's mass downloading of academic journal reports, actions that resulted in federal prosecution and likely to the young activist's suicide. MIT determined in did nothing to encourage the prosecution, but also did nothing to advocate on his behalf.
• A leak indicates that a future operating system for Apple mobile products will include technology allowing the devices to scan fingerprints.
• Health insurance rates in Florida may rise as much as 40 percent in the individual coverage market after the full effects of the Affordable Care Act kick in.

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Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

…San Diego Mayor Bob Filner wants the city to pay for his legal fees to fight charges of sexual harassment.

But really, isn’t it the whole city’s fault?

[Longtorso, Johnny]

That woman? You didn’t harass her….

[SugarFree]

Ooo, there’s an idea. If the mayor or his police force gets sued, the people who voted for him are the ones who have to pay.

[Episiarch]

I like this. Since I don’t vote for anyone, I would never have to pay.

I like this a lot.

[Mad Scientist]

Since cities are generally incorporated, I assume there are liability limits for the “shareholders” who voted for the ass.

[A Serious Man]

Health insurance rates in Florida may rise as much as 40 percent in the individual coverage market after the full effects of the Affordable Care Act kick in.

Does Florida’s racism know no bounds?!

[Fist of Etiquette]

But federal subsidies will make it seem like only 38%.

[Marshall Gill]

Health insurance rates in Florida may rise as much as 40 percent in the individual coverage market after the full effects of the Affordable Care Act kick in.

Yes, and they MAY rise 400% too.

[Pro Libertate]

It’s not just the rate increases. What won’t be covered or will take miles of red tape to get covered?

[Fatty Bolger]

The only thing we know for sure is that they won’t go down.

[Pro Libertate]

Yes, that’s one of the few facts we can state about this fucking law.

[Pro Libertate]

Motherfucker.

[A Serious Man]

Since Florida is the worst state in the country, this clearly is a deliberate plan to both attack the president and ensure that all the black people shot by white supremacists under the Stand Your Ground law suffer.

[Episiarch]

Well, ProL, BP, and Brett do live there.

[Pro Libertate]

Concentrated, libertarian hate. Why else do you think the state lacks an income tax?

[Tonio]

How do you keep track of all that?

[Episiarch]

It’s just a gift I have, Tonio: a great memory for completely or almost completely useless information.

[Pro Libertate]

Ever see pictures of the old NORAD command center? With giant monitors on the way, tracking Soviet subs and missile sites?

Episiarch has a room in his apartment that does the same thing for Hit & Run commenters. Modern miniaturization, you know.

[Episiarch]

(tracks ProL, puts him on list)

[A Serious Man]

The only way to win is not to play.

[Zakalwe]

So Epi is our NSA watcher. Makes sense.

[JW]

No, he’s our WOP-R.

[Episiarch]

They’re on to me!

[Zakalwe]

WOP-R was a much more gifted conversationalist.

[In Time Of War]

Racist!

[Pro Libertate]

I had a moment of hope when Scott was saying “Hell, no!” to the exchanges. Then he decided that conceding was necessary to reelection. Right out of the Charlie “Hamiltonian Tan” Crist playbook.

[Brett L]

Do you ever feel bad that our governors aren’t grand crooks, but merely venal chair warmers?

[Pro Libertate]

No, we do okay for a state this large. At least there’s a little fiscal sanity here.

[Joe M]

A leak indicates that a future operating system for Apple mobile products will include technology allowing the devices to scan fingerprints.

The government was doing this before it was cool.

[Episiarch]

Yeah, but think about it. This could only be at the government’s behest, seeing as what possible use would Apple have for it? But if the NSA could backdoor instruct all the phones to start scanning any touches in an area where they suspect someone they are looking for is…

[Fist of Etiquette]

Yeah, because we all live inside the movie The Net.

[Episiarch]

I saw that in the theater. And regretted it. Like pretty much every mid-90s movie that I saw in the theater.

[hamilton]

I presume you did not see The Rock in the theater then.

[Episiarch]

I…I…did. On the Upper East Side.

[Pro Libertate]

I fucking did, too. I mean, Sean Connery, right? I’m one of the lucky ones who has only seen two of that hack’s (not Connery, mind you) films.

[hamilton]

There you go. “Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.”

[C. Anacreon]

Because of the disaster that was The Rock, there are new requirements for filming on Alcatraz. For one, all productions must have a role for the morbidly obese guy Hugo from Lost.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

The Rock Pfffftttttt

I saw New Jack City in downtown Baltimore.

[Episiarch]

Oh yeah? Well, I saw Warlock in downtown Baltimore.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

I’m going to take a bet that there weren’t leather overcoat wearing thugs with briefcase cellphones and pagers going off during Warlock.

[Episiarch]

Unfortunately, no. But I was drunk.

[Bobarian]

The Roy Scheider beautifully filmed bore, or the b-grade Julian Sands movie

[mauricegirodias]

I saw New Jack City in downtown Baltimore.

Dude, so did I. At that place that’s since been torn down. There were choppers hovering over us.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

It was totally cyberrific.

[General Butt Naked]

The Net?

Pffft!

I learned all I need to know about computers from NCIS.

Dipshit.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

THIS IS WHAT CONGRESS REALLY BELIEVES

[robc]

Wow…ugh…wow…ugh.

Im caught in an infinite loop of stupidity.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You know what movie I saw in the theater in the 90’s?

[Pro Libertate]

Ooh, ooh, I know! Schindler’s List!

[Episiarch]

Speed 2: Cruise Control?

[Zakalwe]

The Pallbearer? (Sob.)

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

Zakalwe, I saw that in the theater and it remains the worst thing I have ever seen in a theater. Not that I remember anything about it other than “Bosco.”

[Zakalwe]

The shared horror of that movie did lead to a bonding/first makeout session with the most well endowed girl I ever dated, so there’s that compensation.

But overall I guess you could say that movie let me down.

[jesse.in.mb]

I saw that in the theater and it remains the worst thing I have ever seen in a theater.

Battlefield Earth.

[Zakalwe]

But what kind of moron saw that in a theater?

[Episiarch]

Every Scientologist in the world. Multiple times.

[jesse.in.mb]

But what kind of moron saw that in a theater?

In my defense I was in HS and thought it was going to be a schlocky, so-bad-it’s-good scifi film. I didn’t realize until afterward that it was a Hubbard film.

[hamilton]

I’m going with Showgirls.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Armageddon, the greatest cinematic event of the era. Idiots.

[Zakalwe]

One does not merely see Armageddon.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You understand.

[Zakalwe]

Right, because I haven’t seen Armageddon.

[Generic Stranger]

Saving Private Ryan?

[Tonio]

While I suspect that you are right, they could reasonably claim they were planning on using biometric ID to secure the devices.

[Episiarch]

Except that claim would be ridiculous. They already have various methods for securing devices; why take the time and money to develop one that gains them nothing in terms of security, yet gives the government something it would cream its jeans over?

[Tonio]

Well, I didn’t say it would be a credible claim, did I Mr. Smartypants?

[Episiarch]

You said “reasonably claim”!

[Mad Scientist]

I think it’s a replacement for the passcode unlocking gizmp. Now the cops will just have to break your arm to get you to unlock your phone instead of brute forcing the code.

[Episiarch]

That’s the thing, though: biometric security is actually less secure because all they have to do is force your hand onto the screen. At least with a passcode they have to get you to tell them it. Probably using a phone book and a sledgehammer.

[General Butt Naked]

Or you could set up a system that when given one passcode will give the information you want, but not what the bad dudez want.

Saw that in Hackers.

[Pro Libertate]

Back when I talked to people in the biometrics business, they mostly acknowledged that biometrics still needs to go with something else, partially for that reason.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

At least with a passcode they have to get you to tell them it. Probably using a phone book and a sledgehammer.

Expand the list of potential methods and you’ve got Warty’s dream job.

[PapayaSF]

I’d suppose that you could set the unlock to any one of your fingers, which would make it slightly tougher. But I doubt most iPhone thieves would want to take the time to force anyone to unlock it. Most just tell you to hand it over without asking if it’s password-protected, or steal it by stealth.

And note that Apple has agreed to participate in some sort of central registry to deter thefts.

[R C Dean]

But I doubt most iPhone thieves would want to take the time to force anyone to unlock it.

Its a subtle distinction, but we’re more worried about pubsec cops than private sector thieves.

[PapayaSF]

I am not seeing how a fingerprint reader on your phone is much more of a security issue than, say, having your fingerprints on your phone. Do you think Apple will send the prints to the NSA?

Oh, wait, let me think about this….

[Pro Libertate]

Holy cow, they could be. Touch screens everywhere! How insidious! The brilliance of it!

[In Time Of War]

Carrying a butcher’s cleaver would be quick and allow them to unlock it at their leisure…

[Tejicano]

Some of the banks in Japan have installed fingerprint readers at their ATM’s to give patrons the option of using that as an additional method to secure your bank account.

A lady I know who runs a shop in my neighborhood (north end of Tokyo) had a group of Chinese barge into her store, put a knife to her pregnant daughter’s throat, and demand her ATM card with the code. Of course they waited around until the call from the guy they sent to make the withdrawal. Ruthless, patient, and thorough. I can only imagine what they would have done if a fingerprint would have been required to finish the deal.

[Pro Libertate]

I’m all for neat toys like biometrics, but I’m not all for them if all of this illegal activity by the government isn’t stopped.

[Tonio]

The problem with biometrics is that it incentivizes people to remove your fingers, eyeballs, etc.

[Pro Libertate]

Actually, from what I heard back in the 90s, when I paid professional attention to such things, the readers can be designed to deal with such issues. And that was fifteen years ago.

[Rich]

Yep. Look (or not) at what happened when foreskin prints were implemented.

[hamilton]

I read this comment, laughed, went home, checked in again, and saw no adulation for it after four hours. So here I am. There.

[Dibbler]

The iRS?

[CE]

A leak indicates that a future operating system for Apple mobile products will include technology allowingrequiring the devices to scan fingerprints.

FTFY.

[Fist of Etiquette]

MIT determined in did nothing to encourage the prosecution, but also did nothing to advocate on his behalf.

If only federal prosecutors were as sensitive to criticism.

[R C Dean]

MIT determined in did nothing to encourage the prosecution,

Who called the cops?

[A Serious Man]

A report from the Government Accountability Office says the Department of Agriculture failed to adequately check its lists and has paid out $32 million to farmers who are no longer farming, because they are dead.

I guess you can say they…really bought the farm!

[Joe M]

YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!

[CE]

Some staffers noticed the discrepancy, but figured if the deceased can vote in blue states, they should be able to farm in red states.

[Joe M]

The black box recording recovered from the deadly train crash in Spain shows that the conductor was chatting away on the phone while traveling 95 miles per hour, nearly twice the speed limit.

Reading that gives me a severe case of rail rage.

[NeonCat]

In this day and age of safety and such, shouldn’t there be a big flashing red light on the train console and an automated voice urging the operator to slow the train down?

[SugarFree]

Spain. The alert system was a donkey. The donkey was asleep. It was a union-mandated donkey break. If you’ve got a problem talk to these goons. [goons ring doorbell]

Also, 50 miles an hour is high speed rail?

[Tonio]

There are some sections of track that you have to go slow on because of curves; this was one of those. Tracks purpose-built for HSR try to avoid those, but I believe this was legacy track.

[SugarFree]

Tonio: Objectively pro-donkey union

[Not a Libertarian]

Surely you sir, of all people, could do something with the phrase Objectively pro-donkey union

[NeonCat]

Bad news, the goons have gone on strike.

[SugarFree]

The police are not allowed to go on strike!

[NeonCat]

You jest, but I heard in coverage of the crash the fire fighters left *their* strike to deal with it.

[SugarFree]

Why? How else will those people learn to not heed the demands of the firefighter’s union if they aren’t left in agony–crushed, pierced and suffocated?

[Fist of Etiquette]

…the conductor was chatting away on the phone while traveling 95 miles per hour, nearly twice the speed limit.

But wasn’t it his work phone with dispatch? I don’t think he was texting Carlos Danger or anything.

[Jam]

am I the only to hope/think Joshua of Nazareth was libertarian tax dodging freedom fighter? from that controversial new book:

Aslan, however, shows that the same passage can be translated quite differently: “Well, then, give back to Caesar the property that belongs to Caesar, and give back to God the property that belongs to God.” Read this way, Jesus sounds much more like a zealot, demanding that the land and people of Israel?which are God’s property?be returned to God and freed from Roman control. It is sayings like this, Aslan writes, that led Jesus to be labeled a “bandit”?a term that was used for all sorts of popular revolutionaries in Judea.

http://www.newrepublic.com/art…..am-kirsch#

[Longtorso, Johnny]

I had someone point to the various Presidents’ images on our currency to argue all money belongs to the govt.

[Damned Fool]

Yet another argument for alternative currencies.

[robc]

The quarters belong to the respective states on the back, right?

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Aslan is writing for himself now. CS Lewis would be amazed.

[The Last American Hero]

Yes you are. If you read the story and understand the context of the quote, Jesus is dodging a rhetorical trap that has been set for him.

Just because someone selectively quotes Jesus out of context to support their cause doesn’t change the essence of his message.

[Palin's Buttplug]

In the original Greek NT Jesus called God by the name Allah (or Eleh/Elah) as that is faithful to the Aramaic of the time.

Don’t you think all three major Middle Eastern religions are really just the same thing?

[PapayaSF]

There is an argument that Islam grew out of an offshoot of Christianity. See Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins.

[Mickey Rat]

I thought it was that Muhammad was trying to coopt the religion of the local Jews?

[PapayaSF]

I don’t recall that, but Muhammad (assuming he existed) took sections of the Koran from early Christian sources. There are early coins showing him (but “Muhammad” means “prophet” so who knows) with both crescents and crosses.

It’s a fascinating book.

[C. Anacreon]

No. The ones that aren’t what I believe, all their followers will burn in Hell.

[The Last American Hero]

They all trace their lineage back to Abraham. I don’t think that’s ever been a secret.

And no, they aren’t the same thing. There are important differences about appropriate behavior and the relationship between God and man between all three faiths.

[Jam]

this isn’t a selective quote, this is THE quote that got him crucified. and the “story” from the gospel was written at a time after the Romans ransacked Jerusalem, 30+ years after his death, and the Jews wanted peace so soften the context of his quote to become a loyal obedient tax paying peasant.

[BigT]

Link??

[Jam]

the link is above, that is the point of this new Jesus: Zealot book, take everything (gospels, Render unto Caesar, etc) in the context of the timeline.

[The Last American Hero]

The pope would probably disagree. Jesus wasn’t trying to establish a secular kingdom and start an uprising against the Romans. He was preaching peace and salvation of the soul. The entire point of the episode is to for the faithful to focus on spiritual rather than material matters.

[PH2050]

Jesus wasn’t trying to establish a secular kingdom and start an uprising against the Romans. He was preaching peace and salvation of the soul.

The fact that this is widely accepted as true is testament to the success of the Roman quisling, Saul of Tarsus.

[The Last American Hero]

Also not buying Aslan, since it was the Jewish establishment that demanded Christ’s execution. This doesn’t square with him being some sort of rebel leader.

[PH2050]

Also not buying Aslan, since it was the Jewish establishment that demanded Christ’s execution. This doesn’t square with him being some sort of rebel leader.

Because conflict between rebel groups and those who benefit from the status quo never occurs.

You didn’t really think this comment through.

[Tim]

“He’s making a list, he’s checking it twice.
He’s gonna find out who’s naughty and nice.
Danat Claus is coming to town.”

THIS IS WHAT FOUR YEAR OLDS ACTUALLY BELIEVE.

[Joe M]

Who the fuck is Danat Claus?

[Tim]

shit

[BiMonSciFiCon]

When I was four I drew up my will and named Santa as a pallbearer, so he could let me down once last time.

[Rich]

That joke just sleighs me!

[db]

It’s like Christmas all over again every time someone presents us with it.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

Soon enough this meme’s rein of terror will be over.

[CE]

It’ll be a cold day at the North Pole when that happens. Which might be a ways off, if you believe in the AGW religion.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

Stop this meme; or suffer my wreath!

[Zakalwe]

That semicolon was completely misused; I trust you’re red-nosed with shame.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

Listen you weirdo, worry about your own punctuation and quit stocking me!

[Zakalwe]

You keep making terroristic threats and Obama is going to have a drone use a toe mistle on you.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

Thanks for the advice. You are a wise man.

[Zakalwe]

Frankly, I’m incensed that it took you this long to acknowledge that.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

I was myrrhly pointing out that your advice was gold.

[Zakalwe]

Oh, then thanks. I’m going to bow out before this conversation completely creches and burns.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

I think you’re smart to get out now; just in the nick of time.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

Yeah. I’m going to exercise my opt-out clause too. And to all, a good night!

[The Bearded Hobbit]

Catching up two hours later, this thread made me laugh so hard my belly shook like a bowl full of jelly!

… Ho-ho-ho-hobbit

[Damned Fool]

A report from the Government Accountability Office says the Department of Agriculture failed to adequately check its lists and has paid out $32 million to farmers who are no longer farming, because they are dead

They’re still feeding the earth, though, does that count?

[Al Jolsons]

Good post, I have the same opinion!

As I was telling Emily, if you can store your urine in sealed jars and then pour it on yourself and others on webcam, you can make up to $10,000 per month.

Learn more at workfromhomesolutions.com

[NeonCat]

Wait, are the jars still sealed when you pour them on yourself? Or do you open them first?

If I have to open them first I’d better get paid for it.

[CE]

But save one jar in case the DEA locks you up and forgets to let you out. Then you can make up to $1,000,000 per day.

[NeonCat]

Putrid North Korean ship is now becoming a giant beehive.

[Dibbler]

That story’s been generating a lot of buzz.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

I see what you did there

[CE]

Not exactly a stinging rebuke.

[db]

That is fucking great. They’ll probably kill off 1/2 the Panamanian honeybee population in the process of getting the ship out of there.

[Rich]

a sticky, molten mess with overtones of urine, mold, body odor, and rotten food.

Like a member of the commentariat who shall not be named.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Health insurance rates in Florida may rise as much as 40 percent in the individual coverage market after the full effects of the Affordable Care Act kick in.

Yet, CA, MD, and NY will see big premium drops. It is amazing how both TEAMS twist the data to support their positions.

[Damned Fool]

You know, I wish we were the TEAM RED shills you thought we were. I could use the extra cash.

[Palin's Buttplug]

There are more than a few here – John being the most obvious. I don’t know your MO though.

[C. Anacreon]

Funny, everything we’re hearing in California is how premiums are going way, way up, especially for independent purchasers. Shriek, do you just make stuff up or are you a copywriter for MSNBC?

[Palin's Buttplug]

Covered California said premiums were going way down.

It was big news a few weeks back.

[R C Dean]

You mean, this news?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/th…..by-64-146/

But the data that Lee released tells a different story: Obamacare, in fact, will increase individual-market premiums in California by as much as 146 percent.

[C. Anacreon]

That’s right. But perhaps Shriek misunderstood.The LA Times, for example, said health care costs in California were going to go way up under Obamacare, but ‘not as badly’ as they had feared they might. So, just like when they call a reduction in growth rate a “cut,” Shriek’s side calls “not going up as bad as we thought” a “premium drop.”

[Not an Economist]

A small group of people in NY and CA premiums are going down. Everybody else’s is going up.

[PH2050]

I want some of that KOCHTOPUS!!!11 money.

Is my check in the mail?

[Sevo]

“Yet, CA, MD, and NY will see big premium drops.”

No, dipshit. All of a max of 17,000 NY residents will see a drop (out of a population of 19M), and that only because NY regs are more fucked up than Obozo’s shit.
There is no magic; Obozocare is among the worst crap ever landed on the Amercian public by your fave lying asshole.

[Ska]

Work in NY, my premiums went up 16% this year.

[BigT]

In OH my premium went up 17% this year; expecting 30% or more next spring.

[A Serious Man]

Nancy Pelosi: Partisanship is a right-wing GOP plot against America!

“Nothing deters voting more than confusion, ‘a pox on both your houses,’ and that confusion is one of the successes of the Republican Party, to make it look equivalent in terms of who is holding up jobs. It’s not equivalent, and we have to make that clear to the American people,” Pelosi said Tuesday at a meeting with the USA TODAY editorial board.

Heading in to confrontations with Republicans this fall on implementation of the Affordable Care Act, funding the government, and raising the debt ceiling, Pelosi said congressional Democrats and President Obama are positioning the party as the bipartisan, cooperative alternative to what she described as the “anti-government ideologues” in the Republican Party.

She really is awful.

[Joe M]

“We’re totally bipartisan, not like those guys!”

Methinks she doesn’t really understand the words that are coming out of her mouth.

[Andrew S.]

No, they do, they just think the vast majority of us are too stupid to realize it’s complete bullshit.

(spoiler: they’re right)

[BigT]

the “anti-government ideologues” in the Republican Party

If only…

[General Butt Naked]

She should be careful as a lot of the “a pox on both of your houses” that don’t vote are crypto-anarcho capitalists or cynical libertarians that would love to hear that one of the parties was holding the beast back.

Hell, if I thought the republicans would actually get in the way of big government I’d vote party line.

C’mon, convince me, Nancy.

[Dibbler]

I sometimes vote Republican solely for the fact that when (not if) they pull bullshit the media will actually call them out on it. ‘Crats always get a free pass and coverage of them highfiving a rapper or something.

[andarm16]

That’s why I wanted Romney to win. Let’s face it, if Mittens was in the White House, there’d be 24/7 protests outside calling for charges to be dropped against Snowden, among other things.

[Bobarian]

“We’re bipartisan, but them other guys aren’t.”

The irony should burn, but I think the idiocy shields her.

[Longtorso, Johnny]

Liberty Slipping: 10 Things You Could Do in 1975 That You Can’t Do Now

[Ted S.]

You could avoid being turned gay by the Golden Girls too.

Of course, back in 1975 you’d still be let down by the Cleveland Browns.

[Longtorso, Johnny]

You’d just be turned gay by Maude.

[Dr. Frankenstein]

I thought Maude just made everyone get abortions.

[C. Anacreon]

abortions for some, tiny American flag pins for others

[Apatheist ?_??]

I believe you posted the contents of that word for word the other day. You are more tiresome than Shreek.

[Coeus]

This is the third or forth time in as many months that Marcotte has basically quoted PUA doctrine as her own.

I’m starting to think it’s intentional.

[Bobarian]

Maybe she’s hoping to get lucky?

[Coeus]

I think it’s because she knows that the evidence is not their side. They have been getting killed for years in internet debates. It only takes one phrase to do it. “revealed vs stated preference”. This way, she can avoid getting schooled for ignoring reality and research by acknowledging it, never mentioning that PUAs popularized it, and pretending that the answers totally different from PUA material, while not providing any.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

until a particularly bizarre version that really highlights how he has offered exactly no reasons for her to say yes, such as that DJ Khaled video

Do you think she doesn’t realize that they already know each other, even if they aren’t dating? I mean, whatevs to her column in general, but it’s a terrible example to use, because she already knows him and knows why she might or might not like him. Stupid.

[Coeus]

Agreed. But the best part is that her sworn enemies are pretty much solely about giving women “reasons to say yes” in the dating sphere.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

Yeah I mean I agree that overall she is doing some kind of bizarro twisting of PUA logic lately.

[A Serious Man]

New Jersey detective kills someone in road rage incident and is actually charged with first-degree murder.

A New Jersey police detective has been indicted on a first-degree murder charge in the shooting of another driver in a case of road rage in Maryland.

An Anne Arundel County grand jury returned the indictment Friday against 40-year-old Joseph Walker of Mount Holly.

Walker works for the Hudson County Prosecutor’s Office. He had been charged with second-degree murder and manslaughter immediately after the June 8 fatal shooting of Joseph Harvey Jr. of Millersville.

Authorities say Walker’s minivan cut off a car driven by Harvey. Harvey’s passenger told police that Walker pointed a gun at them. The drivers got out on a ramp, and the passenger says he heard shots. Harvey died at a hospital.

Walker’s lawyer said a few days afterward that Harvey initiated the fight and threatened Walker’s family.

Guess he should have waited till he was on duty.

[Enough About Palin]

Bill Nojay: Lessons From a Front-Row Seat for Detroit’s Dysfunction
Running the city’s transportation department was like being in the boiler room of the Titanic.

[PapayaSF]

*Cough*
PapayaSF 7.30.13 @ 3:33PM
A good look at the bureaucracy that continues to strangle Detroit.

[Enough About Palin]

Like I have all day to figure out what’s already been posted.

[mad libertarian guy]

You LIE!

Detroit is in such a mess because they are just too libertarian there, and their government is too small! MSNBC told me so!!

[Longtorso, Johnny]

For Epi:

Another Chick And The Wall
Over at Jizzebel, internet archipelago of misfit romantic rejects, a woman breaks the ogress omert? and bares her shiv-scarred soul for the world to leer at with morbid fascination. In a skin-thin confessional-cum-rationalization wrapped in a transparent gauze of self-protective snark, ur-femcunt Tracy Moore, sporting a testosterone-fueled gargantujaw that would be the envy of any excessively prognathic urban youth, unloads about the reality of women losing their looks, and thus their sexual market options, to the unrelenting tick tocking of father fuckyouupgood….

[PH2050]

I read the sentence “Have we learned nothing from vampire movies?” and knew to save myself time by closing the browser tab.

[Coeus]

Misandry doesn’t exist, cause hating men is totally justified.

The best part about all of this anti-misandry nonsense is that misandry isn’t real! There is no such thing as an inveterate systematic hatred of men and there never has been. Misandry exists only as an exaggerated Internet joke and as a way in which women who have been directly or indirectly hurt by men to express their frustration and anger.

[SugarFree]

“Misandry doesn’t exist; here’s a list of reason so many woman and I hate men.”

Is being a moron also a result of patriarchy?

[Episiarch]

Uttering the word “patriarchy” makes you a moron. I guess you’re a moron. I guess I’m a moron too. Morons all around!

[Zakalwe]

I could have saved you a lot of guesswork on this one.

[Pro Libertate]

Racism for some; misandry for others.

[Damned Fool]

I have to admire the sheer nerve of whoever came up with this argument. It’s like the one where minorities can’t be racist because they lack power. (Now that I think of it, I should try that excuse in front of a PC crowd and see what happens.)

[itsnotmeitsyou]

There is no such thing as an inveterate systematic hatred of men and there never has been.

Wow. Delusion really knows no bounds, does it?

[Rich]

“Oh, I thought you said ‘invertebrate’! Never mind.”

[Mad Scientist]

The best part about all of this orgasm nonsense is that female orgasms aren’t real! There is no such thing as a female orgasm and there never has been. Female orgasms exist only as an exaggerated Internet joke and as a way in which women who have been directly or indirectly hurt by men to express their frustration and anger.

I think my version is better.

[Tejicano]

” no such thing as a female orgasm and there never has been”

Ha! That reminds me of the time I gave a Chinese woman the first orgasm of her life. She had grown up in the old, closed borders, repressed society which was China before the 1990’s and had never heard anything about sex. Divorced and with a kid while running a small business she didn’t have much time for a relationship.

So at the point when it happened – after she stopped shaking she asked me in Mandarin “What was THAT?” Rather than trying to explain I went down and gave her another.

[Outlaw]

http://www.urbandictionary.com…..m=misandry

Some insane feminist spammed the shit out of that page.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

“Accusations of male bashing and man hating work to discredit feminism because people often confuse men as individuals with men as a dominant and privileged category of people. Given the reality of women’s oppression, male privilege, and some men’s enforcement of both, it’s hardly surprising that EVERY woman should have moments when she resents or even “hates” men.”

God, I fucking hate it when people confuse individuals for a collective!

Wait, what?

[NeonCat]

Austrian woman says: black soldier fly larva – it’s what’s for dinner!

FTA:
In the future, Unger plans to develop her farm further to support a greater variety of edible insects and possibly mass produce it as a consumer product. Of course, the most obvious hurdle for her fly-breeding device is convincing more people to eat insect larva, regardless of taste. That’s a difficult concept for most Westerners to swallow under ideal circumstances, but especially when 500 grams of protein requires about 10,000 larva. On the other hand, insects do contain less calories than most sources of protein, so that could be a selling point.

[Longtorso, Johnny]

black soldier fly larva

Isn’t that ironic?

[Rich]

Is it *really* necessary to give the race of the flies?

[NeonCat]

Considering they are being bred to slaughter by a white woman, yes.

[Rich]

Where’s PETA when you need them?

[itsnotmeitsyou]

They’re busy euthanizing all the animals that are brought to them for protection. Killing cute mammals takes precedence over some insects being eaten.

[db]

Soldier fly larva = child soldier flies.

[Azathoth!!]

black soldier fly larva

Fly larva. Fly Larva.

Isn’t there a shorter word for fly larva?

Oh, yeah–maggots.

[Dr. Frankenstein]

You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… dead people.

[CE]

Well, if they were really the salt of the Earth, nothing would grow on their graves.

[Coeus]

Yet another bullshit racism study.

Pay attention, cause the Social justice ninnies are leaning on this heavily lately. They just never quote what it actually measured.

In a study that examined the associations between responses to racial theme party images on social networking sites and a color-blind racial ideology, Brendesha Tynes, a professor of educational psychology and of African American studies at Illinois, discovered that white students and those who rated highly in color-blind racial attitudes were more likely not to be offended by images from racially themed parties at which attendees dressed and acted as caricatures of racial stereotypes.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Well that’s a “no-shit Sherlock” type study. If they’re not familiar with the stereotype then they would not be offended by it.

[Mad Scientist]

You mean people who don’t see racism everywhere don’t see racism everywhere? Incredible!

[Bo Cara Esq.]

-You mean people who don’t see racism everywhere don’t see racism everywhere?

Actually, if ‘racially themed parties at which attendees dressed and acted as caricatures of racial stereotypes’ constitute racism then it says the opposite of what you state: people that don’t see racism don’t see racism even when it’s right in front of them.

[Coeus]

Sorry. Brown facepaint isn’t racist. Show me the definition of racism that says brown facepaint is racist.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

You really want an argument that at least some blackface performances have and can be racist?

[PH2050]

Hey, Mac had to use facepaint or the Murtaugh voice wouldn’t have worked!

[Heroic Mulatto]

Context matters. The 7 year old kid I saw at a Star Trek convention who painted his face brown because he was Worf isn’t racist.

The frat dude who adds an afro wig and big giant red lips to his makeup, just might be dressed as a racist caricature.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I’ll grant you that dressing up as a Klingon doesn’t make me think one is a racist, but I’m not sure that I’d even call that blackface.

But I see your overall point. I remember some fuss about Robert Downey Jr.’s performance in that recent movie where he played the pompous actor in blackface. In that context it was clear that it was mocking how pompous the character was, not black people. My point is that saying that brown face paint isn’t racist because it’s not in the definition of racism is silly, it certainly can be racist. There’s a long history of that.

[Coeus]

My point is that saying that brown face paint isn’t racist because it’s not in the definition of racism is silly, it certainly can be racist.

Words have meanings. An esquire should be aware of that. Still waiting on that definition.

[Irish]

Words have meanings. An esquire should be aware of that. Still waiting on that definition.

You have to be fucking kidding me. I agree that wearing brown face paint can be done in a non-racist setting, but if you don’t see how dressing up like a racist caricature is racist, then I really don’t know what to say.

[Coeus]

but if you don’t see how dressing up like a racist caricature is racist, then I really don’t know what to say.

You must be no fun at all on St. Patties Day.

[Coeus]

but if you don’t see how dressing up like a racist caricature is racist, then I really don’t know what to say.

You could start by giving me your definition of racism.

[Zakalwe]

I went to a job interview out of town when I was in college. When I came back I found my three roommates had assigned the role of the black Ghostbuster to me for the “movie theme costume party,” complete with name tag stenciled on my overalls. I embraced the role by putting on some black camo facepaint. Racist?

My blackfriends at the party looked a bit uncomfortable.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I can see why your ‘blackfriends’ were a bit uncomfortable but I don’t think one could conclude that what you did was in itself racist.

The article mentioned ‘dressed and acted as caricatures of racial stereotypes,’ and I don’t think what you did sounds like it crossed into that territory. I should also note that I don’t think every instance of ‘dressed and acted as caricatures of racial stereotypes’ would necessarily be racist. I’m just saying that it’s easy to imagine or even look up examples that would be.

[Zakalwe]

‘blackfriends’

I LOL’d when I saw that typo.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I’m so out of the loop I thought perhaps it was some new, politically correct way that a white person is supposed to refer to chums that are ‘people of color.’

[R C Dean]

Actually, caricaturing racial stereotypes strikes me as the opposite of racism. That’s what you do when you are mocking racists, not emulating them.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I’m not sure that squares with the long history of rather acknowledged racists engaging in such racial stereotypes for laughs and worse. Are we to believe they were just mocking racism the whole time?

[Rich]

People who reported higher racial color-blind attitudes were more likely to be white, and more likely to condone or not be bothered by racial-theme party images

Apparently I must have a high “racial color-blind attitude” attitude, because I do not understand this.

[PapayaSF]

It means “White people who claim to be color-blind are actually racist, because they aren’t upset by the scourge of ‘racial-theme party images’ that the racially-obsessed PC crowd wants everyone to be upset about.”

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

Actually I think it means “color-blindness is racist, because we’ve decided some things that are not racist if you actually act color-blind must be coded racist, so when we said you should be color-blind before we were wrong.”

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I don’t know what the researcher used as examples but I can think of ‘racially themed parties at which attendees dressed and acted as caricatures of racial stereotypes’ that would be quite a bit more than ‘coded’ racism.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

That’s not the sense of “coded” I meant. I meant it as in “called.”

[Coeus]

Actually I think it means “color-blindness is racist, because we’ve decided some things that are not racist if you actually act color-blind must be coded racist, so when we said you should be color-blind before we were wrong.”

+1 white guilt

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I didn’t know white guilt encompassed reading comprehension.

[Coeus]

Naw, it was an, admittedly cryptic, way of saying “I agree. what makes it seem rational to people is white guilt”.

[C. Anacreon]

So what’s a racial-theme party? St Patrick’s Day? I can’t imagine there are fraternity “Dress as a Negro” parties, but it’s been awhile since I’ve been to college.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/d…..te-dr-king

I imagine this is what they are referring to.

[Dr. Frankenstein]

Pimps and Hos parties maybe?

[PapayaSF]

One school had a “Redneck Day” and got accused of (anti-black) racism because someone brought a Confederate battle flag.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

That’s of course ridiculous.

[C. Anacreon]

Agreed. I must be too-far removed from the proper way of thinking — I have no idea what the hell they are talking about. Maybe explain with examples?

[PapayaSF]

Members of the Kappa Sigma fraternity on the Duke University campus initially wanted throw an “Asia Prime” party but they didn’t because schools administrators urged them to cancel the party. Instead what they did was change the name of the party to an “international relations” event and went ahead with their original plans. The original party invitation invited guests complete with misspellings. “We look forward to having Mi, Yu, You, and Yo Friends (click for link) ?over for some Sake,” the email read. Embedded in the email was also an image of the Kim Jong Il character in the film “Team America: World Police.”

[PapayaSF]

Seven Notorious Racist College Parties

So, are toga parties racist against Greeks?

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I’ll ask you, do you think blackface parties on Martin Luther King Day like the one I linked to are in the same boat as a toga party? Honestly?

I understand that many of the perpetually aggrieved trivialize racism by shouting wolf at every thing that strikes them as possibly racist, but that doesn’t mean that there are not some things that reek of racism other than just yelling the ‘n’ word.

[PapayaSF]

I am leery of stretching the term “racism” to mean “anything remotely connected to race that offends anyone.” Tasteless horseplay by college students doesn’t strike me as something to get all Dean Wormer about. But then, I am white and try to be color-blind.

[Irish]

Not one, but count ’em, three universities have landed in the headlines after students celebrated Martin Luther King Day by mocking black culture. In 2007, photographs captured fraternity members from Tarleton State University in Texas “honoring” the King holiday by “eating fried chicken, drinking malt liquor from bottles wrapped in brown paper bags and dressed in faux gang apparel,” CBS News reported. To boot, a white woman clad in a red-and-white checkered apron and a bandana on her head posed for a photo with a bottle of Aunt Jemima syrup in hand. That year, students at two other universities?Clemson and Connecticut?also threw parties that mocked black people and culture on the King holiday.

I mean, seriously? That’s pretty damn racist.

I understand that people here are leery about admitting something is racist because leftists are vile scum who consistently claim anyone who disagrees with them is a racist, but this is ACTUALLY really racist.

Just because liberals are cynical opportunists who use the specter of racism to manipulate idiots doesn’t change the fact that some things really are racist.

[Coeus]

I mean, seriously? That’s pretty damn racist.

How is that treating someone differently because of their race?

[ant1sthenes]

Is it real racism, or just college kids trying to piss off their parents by doing whatever horrifies them most?

[Stormy Dragon]

If you’re color blind, how do you know you’re white?

[Zakalwe]

Is your name Clayton Bigsby?

[Zakalwe]

Or Steven Colbert.

[PH2050]

“Don’t let the liberal media tell you how to think and feel! If you’ve got hate in your heart, let it out.”

[A Serious Man]

Why the Hell are you still eating animals?

Call me an extremist. Say that I’m a hippy, vegan, vegetarian, fanatical, idealist. Tell me that these views are unrealistic and going to destroy the lives of countless farmers. Tell me this is just crazy. Make a joke about it.

It’s hard to talk about eating animals without getting defensive, angry, sad and judgmental. I feel it. You feel it. So let’s all, you and me both, take a step back, take a deep breath and look at what is really going on here.

Fact: Livestock production is destroying the earth.

If you need a reason to change your diet that’s more than the unbearable torturing of animals, then here it is: 18 per cent of global greenhouse gas emissions come from livestock production. Compare that to the 13 per cent of greenhouse gas emissions worldwide that come from transport. Holy shit, right?
[…]
Fact: Cats, dogs, pigs, goats, chickens — they’re all animals and they’re all sentient beings.

Why is there so much uproar when domestic animal abuse is uncovered but barely any attention is paid to the horror that is breeding sows, kept in cages too small to turn around or even greet their new babies?

Dare I say it: eating a pork chop is the same as eating your cat. All animals’ lives matter and when someone says, “I love animals” while eating a hamburger, there’s just too much disassociation there for me to bear.

[Pro Libertate]

Destroying the Earth? What, we’re going to be Venus in a few years?

[General Butt Naked]

Dare I say it: eating a pork chop is the same as eating your cat.

Yeah, but cat is all stringy and gross.

[Bobarian]

I sometimes feel a little bad about eating a pig, but I never feel bad about eating a little pussy.

[SugarFree]

How much greenhouse gas is produced by the fat and proud crowd overeating? How many people go hungry because they consume far in excess of the calories required in a day to maintain a healthy weight?

Every extra cupcake Lindy West eats while crying on the toilet is just like punching a poor kid right in the face.

[General Butt Naked]

Every extra cupcake Lindy West eats while crying on the toilet is just like punching a poor kid right in the face.

Stealing this.

[Pro Libertate]

I have a cunning plan. Place every animal and human in a coma. Use robots that run strictly on solar to monitor our condition. This way, no mass slaughter is necessary, and Gaea is protected. It’s a win-win solution.

[NeonCat]

Someone get that child a job polishing monocles, stat!

[Heroic Mulatto]

Not to mention all the methane seeping out of her colon through her anus and her feces.

[Tonio]

Well, she does have a bit of a point about the cruelty aspect, but like many in her camp she quickly descends to conflation and ranting.

[Pro Libertate]

Once cloned meat is perfected, where only the meat is ever grown, I’ll switch to that. If it’s safe and not EVIL GMO DEATH SQUAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Episiarch]

I’ll tell you what. I’ll eat a hamburger, and your cat, and I won’t even say “I love animals” while I’m doing it. I’ll say “I love meat”.

[PH2050]

Epic Epi.

[jesse.in.mb]

Dare I say it: eating a pork chop is the same as eating your cat. All animals’ lives matter and when someone says, “I love animals” while eating a hamburger, there’s just too much disassociation there for me to bear.

Were my cat delicious, I would be eating it, but it is not, so I don’t.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Is that the only reason why you do not eat your cat? If so, I would not want to be your cat.

[Bobarian]

If cats were delicious, I’d be eating the neighbor’s cat first.

[JW]

Do you know who else took a bite out of kitty?

[Zakalwe]

Bizzarro Ozzie?

[Pro Libertate]

I’m not seeing a need for that adjective.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Cultural taboos concerning food are dumb.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Perhaps it’s cultural taboos concerning animals are dumb. I don’t eat my cat because of a cultural taboo, I don’t eat my cat because I rather like him. I bet I rather like him and not the pig that gave his life for my lunch sandwich because as a cultural matter people like me are more likely to have a cat than a pig for a pet, spend time with them and form attachments to them.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Should read that I don’t eat my cat not because of a cultural taboo on food, etc., etc.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Perhaps, or perhaps you’ve just never been hungry enough.

[NeonCat]

After all, if one’s cat was bigger than them, and the cat was hungry enough?

[Apatheist ?_??]

There are people who keep pigs as pets and then later eat them.

[Nazdrakke]

Roof Rabbit Sandwich, a depression era staple.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I’d like think I have more adherence to my moral principles that I would rather starve than eat my cat. But of course, I’ve never been starving to death, so who knows.

[In Time Of War]

True story-once when preparing to move across the country I determined I couldn’t take my extremely large Pacu with me. A guy at one of the pet stores suggested I fry it up and eat it. I gather they’re tasty, but I couldn’t, erh, stomach the idea and finally found a pet store that would take it.

[Mickey Rat]

There’s also the facts that pigs were bred for meat mostly, and cats were bred for vermin control and companionship, mostly.

[Eduard van Haalen]

Whose cat would you like to be?

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Barbara Walters?

[Nazdrakke]

Eating animals is murder.

Tasty, tasty murder.

[Apatheist ?_??]

All those animals would die off if we stopped eating them (maybe not goats). Also I’ve eaten cat, so who gives a fuck about that.

[Pro Libertate]

Eeeeewwwwwwww.

[Episiarch]

What’s eww about it? Cats are pretty indistinguishable from rabbits once you take off the paws and head and tail. I’ve eaten tons of rabbit.

[Pro Libertate]

Have you eaten cat?

[Episiarch]

No, but I absolutely would. I’ve eaten bear and rabbit and ostrich and cow and pig and deer and boar and buffalo and alligator and chicken and duck and a panoply of fish and shellfish, and more. Why would cat bother me?

[Apatheist ?_??]

It wasn’t anything special good or bad really. I made sure that living in Asia several times that I eventually tried dog and cat because why the fuck not. Definitely not the strangest thing I ate.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Word.

Fried duck bill was one of the strangest for me. And it’s fucking delicious with cheap Lao beer.

My wife’s favorite meat animal is still country rat.

[jesse.in.mb]

I made sure that living in Asia several times that I eventually tried dog and cat because why the fuck not.

I actually went looking for dog (soup) when I lived in Korea, but the Koreans were mostly embarrassed by it. They don’t eat cat. The horse burger places were closed when I went hunting for a horse burger in Slovenia. I’m a little sad that I haven’t eaten more animals with cultural taboos attached to them. Silk worm pupae are not enough.

[Pro Libertate]

I don’t know. I say someone should send you a cat to eat. Then you can film it and post it on YouTube, from slaughter to consumption.

[Joe M]

Before you eat it, though, ask it the hard questions.

[Episiarch]

When I come out of your cellar tonight to watch your daughters through the window like I do every night, I’ll be sure to grab your cat and have it as a snack.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

Suddenly it all makes sense. Pro L is just trying to get Warty to kill Epi…

[Pro Libertate]

Kill is such an emotionally charged word. More “exile from this planet.” Why do you think I’m so into manned spaceflight?

[Episiarch]

Warty has tried many times, and all it has done is make me stronger. Well, it’s made my sphincter stronger, at least.

[Pro Libertate]

Wait until he does it in zero gravity! Then you will know the true meaning of revenge.

I’m feeling very Khanny today.

[JW]

KHAAAAAAAAN-LIKE!

[Pro Libertate]

Too bad Montalb?n has passed on. Because I have a great idea for a new career. A talk show, but with him in his Khan persona throughout. He’s introduced by his sidekick, the Phoenix, thus: “Here’s Khanny!”

[Stormy Dragon]

I’d try cat, although I would expect I would not like it, as everything I’ve read about cat meat agrees it tastes like rancid liver.

[Outlaw]

How much you wanna bet that they hate hunting and guns?

Fuck off, Malthusian lackey.

[np]

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[db]

I should have got into teledildonics years ago.

[Pro Libertate]

There’s a great future in haptics. Think about it. Will you think about it?

[Brett L]

I’ve been telling everyone about teledildonics for a while now, and you laughed. While I roll in piles of tear-stained cash sent to me by other people.

[A Serious Man]

Brothers! You’ve been had! Hoodwinked! Libertarian populism = Ayn Rand in disguise

Ben Domenech, for example, tries to define libertarian populism by arguing that it takes “a few of its aims from the Rand Paul approach ? a balanced budget amendment, flatter and simpler taxes, and more ? but there is also a stronger focus on issues which cut across party lines, including reform of higher education, prison and justice systems, civil liberty protections, and an assault on D.C. cronyism from green energy to Big Banks.” But all of this is standard-issue libertarianism, including libertarian critiques of “prison and justice systems” and “civil liberty protections.” Nothing new here, folks, move along.

What Domenech and others mean by “populist” appears to be “popular.” They want a popular libertarianism, a libertarianism that majorities of Americans might vote for, not a movement that has anything to do with actual historic populism in the United States, which has generally been, to coin a phrase, illibertarian.

And then goes on to cite the real Populist Party platform of 1886, which was unabashedly racist and xenophobic, as well as tainted with socialist ideas that the 20th century has disproved. Why? I have really no idea because the article is pretty incoherent.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

First, whoever wrote that may have coined a word, but you know what, we already fucking had one for that. It’s illiberal, you jackass.

[Heroic Mulatto]

But ZOMG nicole!!!! “Liberal” is different than “libertarian”!

[Joe M]

That’s the same moron who wrote the article saying libertarianism isn’t legit because no country has adopted it.

[C. Anacreon]

I keep saying it, but none of these people ever mentioned the word libertarian a year ago. Something is going right in this country to have the statists so worried. They are scared to death of Rand Paul, Justin Amash, etc, because they realize that so many libertarian ideas make sense to so many people — and they can’t scare those folks away like they can from SoCons by screaming “racist” or “war on women!”

[CE]

No, they scare them away by screaming “terrorists!” and “national security” and “9/11!”

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

Oh god, I’m really glad I didn’t click through. I’m terrified of listening to last week’s episode of EconTalk since he was the guest.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

I’m about 10 minutes in and it’s not as bad as I thought it would be. But I have no desire to go back out of fear that the rest is going to be terrible.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

I love Russ Roberts but he’s too nice and not anarchisty enough to deal with a guest like that to my liking. I know I will hate-listen fearfully at some point soon though…

[BiMonSciFiCon]

My favorite econ talks are when he interviews someone who doesn’t have an econ/poli background. I’m thinking of the Manzi interview or the one where the guy talks about how potato chips are made.

I enjoy the ones with Boudreaux/Munger/etc. but don’t get so much out of them now that my turn to the dark side is complete.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

The potato chips guys was my FAVORITE! Seriously, that was a great episode.

I enjoy the ones with Boudreaux/Munger/etc. but don’t get so much out of them now that my turn to the dark side is complete.

Yeah, I’m exactly the same. Exactly.

[Irish]

I’d like to point out that Michael Lind once wrote a book where he argued that we should have the government pay poor people to move out into low density states. That way, wages back in the cities would go up since fewer people would live there!

Clearly all we need to do is send all the poor people out into a field somewhere, and all will be well. Plus, a falling population worked wonderfully for Detroit. Wages in that city must have skyrocketed since the population fell from 1.4 million to 700,000.

In short, Michael Lind is a moron.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

he argued that we should have the government pay poor people to move out into low density states. That way, wages back in the cities would go up since fewer people would live there!

I hope there was also a part about how the poor people who moved would turn red states blue.

Man, I couldn’t even make up something that stupid. (I hope.)

[Irish]

Man, I couldn’t even make up something that stupid. (I hope.)

Yeah, Michael Lind really is a trail blazer assuming the trail he’s blazing is one of tears.

[A Serious Man]

Michael Lind edges out Joan Walsh as the most vapid writer at Salon.

[MJGreen]

But all of this is standard-issue libertarianism, including libertarian critiques of “prison and justice systems” and “civil liberty protections.” Nothing new here, folks, move along.

So if that sounds good to you, don’t be fooled! It’s still libertarianism, which you already know is bad. Ayn Rand! Kochs!

[Damned Fool]

The black box recording recovered from the deadly train crash in Spain shows that the conductor was chatting away on the phone while traveling 95 miles per hour, nearly twice the speed limit.

Close enough for government work.

[A Serious Man]

Austin police detective commandeers vehicle, shoots and kills fleeing suspect who was ‘probably’ up to no good.

At a press conference Monday afternoon, Austin Police Assistant Chief Brian Manley acknowledged that the fatal shooting Friday of Larry Eugene Jackson, Jr. by an APD detective was more complicated than initially described, and that it involved not simply a “foot chase” but a search in a private car commandeered by the APD detective.
Manley said police are “confident” that Jackson ? shot and killed by APD Detective Charles Kleinert on Friday afternoon ? had come to the Benchmark Bank where the detective was investigating an earlier (unrelated) robbery to “commit a fraud” and was not there to conduct any legitimate business.

Oh, well it’s all okay then. They are, after all, ‘confident’ that they did not murder an innocent man.

[NeonCat]

Commandeering sounds so much nicer than “carjacking”, too.

[Mad Scientist]

That seems like an appropriate response to fraud.

[CE]

Or answering a question in a suspicious or confusing manner, or for trying to get into the bank twice in the same day.

[A Serious Man]

Sydney Leathers trashes Anthony Wiener on Howard Stern; looks to get into porn.

Boy Wiener sure knows how to pick a classy lady.

[SugarFree]

BBW doesn’t pay as well as she thinks.

[A Serious Man]

I don’t think she qualifies as a BBW, she’s just very bottom heavy.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Nuthin’ wrong with a lil’ White Big-Booty Judy.

Jus’ sayin’

[SugarFree]

Have you seen the horrific bikini pics? The long set the NY Post got ahold of? If your bikini bottom are big enough to be used as a beach towel, you are fat.

[Zakalwe]

Yeah, I thought they might put Weiner on a suicide watch after those pics came out. If I was him I’d be choking myself right now.

[R C Dean]

He’s probably choking something right about now.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

Wow, she actually staged that shoot after this all came out? Wow. Um I think I’m in physical pain for her right now. Or is it for myself?

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

And why is her hair so flat? Why did she let someone take those pictures?!?

[jesse.in.mb]

And why is her hair so flat? Why did she let someone take those pictures?!?

THIS is why there are no female libertarians!

[SugarFree]

She obviously knows how to dress herself while not in a bikini. Maybe she should just realize that the beach shoot is not her forte.

[A Serious Man]

She’s average looking, has trashy tattoos, and is just weirdly proportioned. That’s more than enough to turn me off.

I’m just saying I don’t think I’d call her that, even sarcastically.

[Coeus]

A big butt and a barrel chest. I’ve seen women with that combo be hot, but they really have to stay on top of it. Anyone with a barrel chest (myself included) cannot just eat right. They gotta work out. Skinny is ugly with a barrel chest.

[Calidissident]

I’m a butt guy, but even I think here ass is weird (from the bikini pic). It’s really long and wide, but not very thick. Not a good combination IMO

[Calidissident]

*her

[Killazontherun]

Here’s Anthony’s girl in a bikini.

http://goo.gl/2Dukyv

And on the subject of looking good in a bikini, here is one of my wife screwing around at my brother’s pool

http://goo.gl/fX1Rr0

[Irish]

And on the subject of looking good in a bikini, here is one of my wife screwing around at my brother’s pool

Your wife looks good, but I don’t know why you said ‘on the subject of looking good in a bikini.’

That first picture in no way brought to mind ‘looking good in a bikini.’

[Killazontherun]

I thought it odd the talk of Sidney Leathers above without a link being provided. But, you’re right, it was a terrible segue.

[NeonCat]

Woman scorned, etc.

[Episiarch]

Howard always knows the right questions to ask.

[Nikkis enthusiastic dissent]

“He was just this needy little bit–, basically,” Leathers said.

Makes sense for a politician.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Her parents must be proud. Anthony Weiner deserves all he gets but her parents protestation that he was taking advantage of their innocent daughter is bullshit.

[Heroic Mulatto]

They named her Sydney Leathers, for crying out loud, it’s not like her career wasn’t preordained.

[Pro Libertate]

That teacher who got fired for working as a bikini girl on a charter boat went into porn. Maybe they should compare notes.

[Pro Libertate]

Of course, if I recall correctly, the teacher looked decent in a bikini, so that may be a small problem.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Wait, what?

The name, bro…we need the name!

[Pro Libertate]

Tiffany Shepherd. Not some major hottie, but well-built enough to turn to a porn career, apparently. I think she said she was forced to become a porn star because of her firing or something. Real psycho porn shit, I guess.

[Mickey Rat]

I don’t think you send pictures of your dick to ladies you are hoping are classy.

[The Immaculate Trouser]

Feminist supports muckracking journalism and witch-hunts; film at 11

Ariel Levy’s new piece in The New Yorker about the Steubenville, Ohio, rape case has a lot of smart things to say about rape culture, rumor-mongering, and the sometimes iffy motives that are often behind the actions of people deemed “heroes.” But when it comes to the central premise of the article?that the online vigilantes who shaped the media coverage of this case negatively impacted the course of justice?I walked away unpersuaded[…]

Some of the untrue rumors spread to the mass media, frustrating prosecutors who felt they were subject to unfair levels of scrutiny and the suspicion that they just wanted the whole thing to go away. That’s unfortunate, but it doesn’t follow that the problem is technological.

You’re right, Amanduh. The problem is people like you, who have no clue what our justice system entails, spreading outright falsehoods about legal proceedings. You’d think that a blogger who was so publicly wrong and hysterical in her reporting of the Duke Lacrosse trial would refrain from blogging about these topics.

[Pro Libertate]

Rape culture? Is there really such a thing?

I just had the weirdest idea for a sequel to Fight Club.

[Heroic Mulatto]

First rule about Rape Club….

[Pro Libertate]

Yes, that’s it. Odd.

[Damned Fool]

What happens when rape culture meets cultural relativism? In a PC world, who wins?

[Nazdrakke]

The one who’s lobby donates the most money to the political class.

[Killazontherun]

The thieves’ guild and the police guild are whipping the fuck out of the citizen’s guild at the moment.

[PapayaSF]

“Rape culture” is a big lefty meme these days. It seems to mean that despite the fact that rape is illegal, unanimously socially condemned, and perpetrated by very few men, it’s a powerful cultural force for oppression that all men benefit from and all women suffer from. Thus, feminists should win every argument.

[ant1sthenes]

Rape culture? Is there really such a thing?

Sure. Just, not here. Egypt, maybe.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Does she think that as a historical matter poorly informed, angry mob actions to ‘punish’ folk devils usually end in ways good for women in general or feminism in particular?

[The Immaculate Trouser]

+Salem Witch Trial

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Yes.

Feminists remind me of economic liberals. Both say that their respective bogeymen (patriarchy, capitalism) have incredible, subtle behind the scenes powers to influence government action, especially to the extent that it is discretionary, to act in their favor and their response is to attack the rule of law and further empower the government. What in the world?

[PapayaSF]

And the same people dismiss any idea that the mainstream media, academia, or lefty nonprofits have any subtle, behind the scenes powers to influence government action.

[jesse.in.mb]

A report from the Government Accountability Office says the Department of Agriculture failed to adequately check its lists and has paid out $32 million to farmers who are no longer farming, because they are dead.

At least they aren’t voting, amirite?

[NeonCat]

The ones in Chicago better be.

[The Immaculate Trouser]

In addition to being a bitter harpy, Amanda has been blessed with the gift of incredibly tired analysis:

This is how it works, therefore:

Wild-eyed fanatics who are all hopped up on the latest bizarre theories and paranoias fed to them by Rush Limbaugh and Fox News choose the most right-leaning candidate out of the field. In major primaries?well, only the presidential one anymore?enough cooler heads show up that this may not happen, but on the state and especially local level, good luck to anyone who shows a bit of common sense, if they’re up against someone who can speak pure Wingnut.

Come the general election, at least in red states, a strong majority of white people automatically vote for the Republican, often with no idea how bad the politician they voted for really is. They vote Republican because being “conservative” is their identity as white people in red states, even if their understanding of that is no deeper than “guns are good and liberals are bad”. If they really thought about it, they probably wouldn’t be supportive of the ending Medicare/privatizing schools agenda that has become mainstream in the Republican party through the primary system, but the fear of becoming one of those hated liberals tends to override policy concerns.

Yeah, what is the matter with Kansas, anyways?

[Heroic Mulatto]

How does it go again? Something about “motes” “beams” and “eyes”?

[The Immaculate Trouser]

Dammit HM, you have to stop posting those porn links! “Motes” and “beams” in the eyes of barely-legal girls — that’s just not Christian, man.

[NeonCat]

“Pluck me! Pluck me! Pluck me harder, motherplucker!”

[NeonCat]

“That’s no mote!”

[Pro Libertate]

Know thy self.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Hmmmm seems like that second paragraph would apply far more to certain other segment of the population.

[Pro Libertate]

Automatically voting for anyone is stupid. The left needs to understand that even more than the right, who needs to understand that.

Once you cede your decision-making to others, you lose.

[CE]

Which is what voting entails.

[Pro Libertate]

There’s some real truth to that, but even accepting representative government and all its limitations, not holding the candidates accountable is dumb. It’s one of the flaws in our system, that we keep electing moral and mental idiots to the job.

[Episiarch]

Projection, projection, projection. Always.

[Pro Libertate]

It’s the most projective projection, too. Metaprojection. Wonder if the NSA collects that kind of data, too?

[Episiarch]

This is the entertaining thing about TEAM BLUE projection; its purity. When they go on one of these rants about the other TEAM, it’s so uncannily a perfect description of themselves that it’s almost impossible to believe they can be that self-unaware.

[Pro Libertate]

I know, it’s amazing, isn’t it? I mean, I’m reading her little diatribe, and it’s the first thing that comes to mind, that’s she’s talking about herself.

[Killazontherun]

That Marcotte would even use the word ‘commonsense’ against her chosen enemies when she has defied it her entire professional life like a trapeze artist makes you wonder if it is just a big put on. Surely, no one is that un self aware.

[Pro Libertate]

The one thing that is generally true about the left that isn’t as true about the right, by and large, is the total lack of common sense. They live in a world totally detached from reality.

[The Immaculate Trouser]

One must always hold out for the possibility that Marcotte is herself elaborate performance art on the part of a conservative with far too much time on his hands.

[Episiarch]

Well, she is; she just doesn’t realize it.

Projection this extreme occurs when someone is completely unable to understand how anyone else could possibly think or act differently than them. It’s sort of sociopathic but slightly different. She at least tries to empathize, it’s just that her version of empathy is to assume everyone thinks just like her. Not in terms of what they think so much, but in how they think.

[C. Anacreon]

I always hear people on the left say that talk radio and Fox News spoon-feed paranoid delusions to people on the right. I listen to each occasionally, and I don’t know that I’ve ever heard a paranoid delusion. Can Amanda name any, or is this just something leftists say because they are sure that’s what is happening?

[The Immaculate Trouser]

Eh, it’s just a rehash of “opiate of the masses”, with talk radio personalities replacing the church as reasons that the poor aren’t voting in their supposed interest.

Though TBH, I’d have to say that the last 20-30 years of observing politics has led me to believe that the truth value of the statement “guns are good and liberals are bad” is quite high indeed.

[Killazontherun]

Fox News sounds like the same tripe you hear on CNN. I don’t really get the hate beyond it has a conservative guy hosting the primetime show at nine, but a total mainstream big government law and order fascist at eight that the progs agree with far more than they would ever admit. Shepard Smith? Doesn’t seem anything but a middle of the road type. Perhaps its his humor they find off putting. If you are far enough to the left, humor itself is reactionary.

[Irish]

Fox News sounds like the same tripe you hear on CNN.

Their actual news is basically CNN with hotter women. The conservatives come out around 7 P.M., and progressives have managed to convince themselves that prime time Fox is indicative of their programming all day.

[PapayaSF]

They mean things like “Obama is a secret Muslim Communist who was born in Kenya.”

[Stormy Dragon]

I don’t know that I’ve ever heard a paranoid delusion

If you knew that you’d heard a delusion, it wouldn’t be delusional.

[CE]

And liberal Democratic voters were so much better informed about the actual policies of Mr. Obama….

[Irish]

I like the paranoia about other people being paranoid. There has to be some word for a person who is deeply and unreasonably fearful of paranoid people hurting them.

Maybe ‘metaparanoid.’

Come the general election, at least in red states, a strong majority of white people automatically vote for the Republican, often with no idea how bad the politician they voted for really is.

This is also awesome. African Americans vote much more heavily for Democrats than white people vote for Republicans, and because of how fucked up the Democrats have made their communities, low income African Americans are often less informed than white people as well.

This is what happens when you let liberals educate your children.

[A Serious Man]

North Carolina governor signs new abortion legislation, then goes outside the Governor’s Mansion to give pro-choice protesters a plate of cookies.

That photo is priceless.

[Pro Libertate]

The look on that woman’s face. . .never have I seen such conflict and indecision. Love of cookies vs. hatred of the fetus–which will win out?

[Pro Libertate]

I think Herzog should do a movie on that photo. Just the moment in the photo, nothing else. The name of the film? Signifikante Pl?tzchen. In German, with German subtitles.

[Killazontherun]

There is so much win in that picture. The dress is incredibly complimentary of the lady wearing it, the dude in he pink shirt in the background, where did he even get that? And the security guy, he should be making big bucks in Hollywood looking the part that sharply.

[A Serious Man]

She does look nice in that dress, which is ironic since the protesters were deliberately wearing 1950s-style clothing to make a point about going backwards and sexism and all that noise.

[Bam!]

Guy in the purple shirt in the background: Is that a guy or a girl?

[Killazontherun]

Shit, I didn’t even notice, but the hips are feminine. The western fringe on the top made me assume it was a guy.

[Killazontherun]

Now I see it. That is not western style dude ranch fringe, those are shoulder pads. It is a woman.

[Pro Libertate]

Why do you insist on imposing your primitive gender biases?

[Killazontherun]

It’s the Kinks fault.

[SugarFree]

So much for focusing on economic issues.

[Pro Libertate]

You know, that’s an excellent point. Why doesn’t Obama give out cookies?

[SugarFree]

Would you take a cookie from Obama?

[Pro Libertate]

That may be the most profound question you’ve ever asked. The Reason Foundation should do a massive poll on it.

For the record, no, unless it was in one of those social settings where it’s impossible to decline.

[SugarFree]

I can see it as a campaign poster. “Would you take a cookie from this man?”

[Pro Libertate]

Indeed, I would not. I most definitely would take a cookie offered to me by Ron Paul, which is why I voted for him last primary.

I’d take one from Gary Johnson, but I’d ask him whether it had anything besides cookie in it.

[Pro Libertate]

Or, in the alternative:

It’s 3 o’clock in the morning.

The children are asleep.

You smell cookies.

Who is baking them?

Hillary Clinton for President, 2016

[Zakalwe]

The Reason Foundation should do a massive poll on it.

Emily, call me.

[Killazontherun]

I take all the cookies from Obama. But I wouldn’t eat them.

[Eduard van Haalen]

Trick question – he would give everyone raw asparagus, otherwise Michelle would get on his case.

[Irish]

I would take a cookie from Obama just so I could eat it in front of Michelle and mock her healthy eating initiatives. I would then walk away while loudly discussing my plans to eat an entire can of whipped cream when I got home.

[Eduard van Haalen]

“Planned Parenthood supporters had planned for today’s vigil to last until 10 p.m., but they cut it short, ending around 2:30 p.m.”

Close enough for government-subsidized work.

“Today the women wore dresses styled after a TV show set in the 1960s, “Mad Men,” a nod to their perception that Republican policies are outdated and misogynistic.”

As Democrats, they support a lot of Don Draper – like politicians, so it’s only fitting. And of course the 1960s marked a wave of “abortion reform” (ie. antilife) legislation, so they’re going back to their roots.

“From here on out, Planned Parenthood will focus on registering voters across the state, and getting people to speak out, said Paige Johnson, Planned Parenthood of Central N.C.’s vice president of external affairs.”

Most Planned Parenthood affiliates are categorized as “public charities,” so I suppose Obama’s IRS will be going after them for partisan political activities. Any time now…

[Heroic Mulatto]

The comments to that story are priceless.

“How dare that man give them cookies!”

[Irish]

McCrory’s gesture was ? considering his decision to sign the bill Monday ? seen as a bit condescending by those present, who came up with an off-the-cuff chant: “Hey Pat, that was rude. You wouldn’t give cookies to a dude.”

I’m confused. Isn’t the fact that a man made cookies and gave them to a woman a reversal of gender roles that we should all applaud?

[Pro Libertate]

Did the governor make the cookies?

[Bam!]

He didn’t make those!

[Bam!]

Fuck, that should have been “bake”. Motherfucker.

[Bam!]

Giving cookies is rude? No wonder feminists hate stay-at-home mothers.

[Pro Libertate]

It was a minor faux pas. What he should’ve done was given them a chocolate cake.

[Apatheist ?_??]

No it obviously should have been a kingcake.

[Pro Libertate]

You didn’t study Bill Cosby in school, clearly.

[Killazontherun]

Prisoners At Guantanamo Love “50 Shades Of Grey”

http://www.wwtdd.com/2013/07/p…..s-of-grey/

Finally, GWOT gets results!

[Eduard van Haalen]

“By Allah the Merciful, I swear that I was only reading that as an ironic gesture! Anyway, what do you expect me to do now that *Firefly* has been cancelled? There’s nothing good on cable anymore!”

[Fatty Bolger]

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!

The liberal press, apparently unchastened by their guy Barack’s disastrous term in office, is gearing up for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 run. Is America really yearning for an old lady president? I guess we will find out. I didn’t believe it for a long time, but it now seems clear that Hillary is determined to reign in the White House until close to her 80th birthday. The Democrats don’t mind; they are a geriatric party and don’t have a plausible candidate who is any younger.

But I digress. We already knew that a movie titled Rodham is in the works. It will focus on Hillary’s role as a 26-year-old staffer on the House Judiciary Committee during Watergate. Since Hillary played no perceptible role in the Watergate affair or its aftermath, the movie could make for a boring couple of hours. On the other hand, actresses like Scarlett Johansson, Reese Witherspoon and Amanda Seyfried are reportedly in the running for the role of Ms. Rodham?because, I guess, they look so much like Hillary.

Pics of the leading Hillary candidates included.

[A Serious Man]

But I digress. We already knew that a movie titled Rodham is in the works. It will focus on Hillary’s role as a 26-year-old staffer on the House Judiciary Committee during Watergate. Since Hillary played no perceptible role in the Watergate affair or its aftermath, the movie could make for a boring couple of hours.

I’m sure they’ll tweak the facts a bit to make it so that the heroic Hillary courageously stood up against Republican misogyny and sexism to oust Nixon from office.

[Irish]

My favorite part about the upcoming NBC Hillary mini-series is that the head of NBC claimed it will be ‘balanced’ despite the fact that the writer for the mini-series is a known Hillary supporter and the executive responsible for the series was the producer of the anti-Reagan hit piece that aired on Showtime about 10 years ago.

That anti-Reagan hit piece actually contains a scene where Nancy Reagan begs Ronald to do something about AIDS and he refuses, saying ‘They that live in sin shall die in sin.’

So I’m sure that the NBC Hilary production is going to be super fair.

[Eduard van Haalen]

They’re totally fair – they leave it to the viewer to decide if Hillary is hero or a martyr. Also, the scene of Ken Starr selling his soul to the Devil is done in a respectful and balanced manner.

[Eduard van Haalen]

“I’m sure they’ll tweak the facts a bit to make it so that the heroic Hillary courageously stood up against Republican misogyny and sexism to oust Nixon from office.”

I think you may have missed the key point – she wasn’t married to Bill at the time, thus proving that sistas can do it by themselves. She single-handedly brought Nixon down, but sexists insisted on giving the credit to males like Woodward, Bernstein, and Cox (“Cox” – if that’s not a dead giveaway, I don’t know what is).

[Pro Libertate]

Are they going to talk about her being a Republican when she was younger?

[Eduard van Haalen]

Silence, heretic!

[Eduard van Haalen]

She experimented with Republicanism when she was young, but she never inhaled.

[Pro Libertate]

I bet she inhaled some Republican. Maybe more than one.

[Eduard van Haalen]

Oh, Lord, there isn’t enough Clorox bleach to wash that image from my mind.

[Pro Libertate]

I bet she was a real slut before she married Bill and became a lesbian.

[Fatty Bolger]

Bill made her gay, is that what you’re saying?

[Pro Libertate]

I draw no conclusions.

[Archduke Trousersenthusiast]

Scientists have grown rudimentary teeth out of the most unlikely of sources, human urine.
with photo of some hillbilly mouth I guess.

[Outlaw]

Precious bodily fluid?

[BigT]

Hispanic Republican victory in CA.

[Fatty Bolger]

Shikha already explained how this means that the Rush Limbaugh show is on the verge of cancellation, and Hispanics will vote for the GOP in droves if they will just support amnesty. At least I think that’s what she said.

[Pro Libertate]

This came up earlier today. If the GOP would just say, “The Democrats want you to have a comatose economy and for you to live that really lame welfare lifestyle. We want to give you a booming economy and for you to be stinking rich,” I think they’d do much better.

[Fatty Bolger]

Well, that’s what McCain and Romney both said, and it didn’t work. I do think they need better messaging if they want more Hispanic voters. For one thing, stop acting like Mexican immigrants are the second coming of the Huns coming over the Great Wall of China.

[Pro Libertate]

Floating trial balloons and making it central to your platform are two different things.

[BigT]

Hoisted by their own petard, lawmakers and staff may quit govt service since their health ins won’t be paid.

[Fatty Bolger]

The cronut scourge spreads

The seemingly endless and inexplicable desire for cronuts–the hybrid croissant and doughnut pastry created New York City chef Dominique Ansel –has reportedly spread overseas, with some pastry chefs going to extreme measures to reverse engineer the treat.

In order to stop it, of course. It’s World War C out there.

[MappRapp]

OK, wow Smack daddy is like all over that man.

http://www.Anon-Top.tk

[MappRapp]

SOmetimes man, you jsut have to roll with it.

http://www.Anon-Top.tk