Boston Reopens, Kind Of

Stay indoors request lifted, suspect still at-large

Ed Krayewski | 4.19.2013 6:41 PM

The "stay indoors" request for parts of Boston has been lifted and public transit service has been restored after a day spent on "lockdown" while police searched for the Marathon bombing suspect, who remains at-large. Tonight's home games for the Bruins and the Red Sox, however, remain cancelled.

The day's exercise could cost up to $333 million in lost business, according to BusinessWeek, which also notes that the Dunkin Donuts stayed open per request from law enforcement.

President Obama visited Boston for an interfaith prayer service, telling the city it was the wrong one to pick for a bombing. Boston last faced a shut down like today's when props from an Adult Swim marketing campaign were mistaken for bombs in 2007.

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heller 12 years ago

This lockdown is so fucking stupid.

Up with fear, down with logic!
1. Paul. 12 years ago
  
  Is this even legal? Can one guy justify an entire major city to go on 'lockdown'? Fuck you, I'm going to the store, I need toilet paper.
  1. heller 12 years ago
    
    Weird, I just came got back from the store where I bought... toilet paper.
    
    And yeah, the governor has no legal authority to do this, just like he has no legal authority to shut down the roads during a snowstorm, but he does anyway.
    1. Hyperion 12 years ago
      
      Well, they have to start somewhere if they're going to get the sheeple to accept martial law.
      1. Paul. 12 years ago
        
        The gays accepted marital law pretty quickly...
        
        ......oh, martial law. My bad.
        
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  2. Austrian Anarchy 12 years ago
    
    Thank God President Obama brought this to a peaceful resolution. Yes, he had to kill one suspect with his bare hands, but his invaluable support brought the second suspect in.
    
    Our grateful nation looks forward to the new Obama Communications Chair at Boston University to be filled by Dzhokhar Tsarnaev as soon as he recovers from his capture.
2. Austrian Anarchy 12 years ago
  
  If this recently captured joker listens to the advice of G. Gordon Liddy, he will keep his mouth shut. And if his lawyer tells him to talk, he needs a new lawyer.
  1. Some call me Tim? 12 years ago
    
    Don't say a fucking word is rule #1 of any questioning
3. eerererg 12 years ago
  
  I support you. Welcome to my sit. http://www.scrjkj.com/
Episiarch 12 years ago

telling the city it was the wrong one to pick for a bombing

There's a right one?!?

Oh, wait. Worcester.
1. Dr. Frankenstein 12 years ago
  
  I thought it was Detroit. No one would notice.
  1. Episiarch 12 years ago
    
    Worcester is closer.
  2. Paul. 12 years ago
    
    I thought it was Detroit. No one would notice.
    
    Yes they would. A large bomb could do millions of dollars worth of improvements.
    1. Austrian Anarchy 12 years ago
      
      Nobody would notice.
2. Hugh Akston 12 years ago
  
  Hey Epi, I'm thinking of making a plentyoffish profile. What would you call a muffin top but for neck fat?
  1. Episiarch 12 years ago
    
    A goiter?
  2. Paul. 12 years ago
    
    A "Hugh Akston"
  3. PapayaSF 12 years ago
    
    "Obesity."
  4. Kaptious Kristen 12 years ago
    
    Strangleholds
    1. Hugh Akston 12 years ago
      
      I kinda like this one. Is it more accurate to say "covered with bacne" or covered in bacne"?
      1. Kaptious Kristen 12 years ago
        
        "covered in" sounds more poetical.
      2. Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago
        
        "adorned with"
        
        Kaptious Kristen 12 years ago
        
        That's the one!
        
        Hugh Akston 12 years ago
        
        Very nice. Last question: what do you call it when the flesh of your upper arm sags down over your elbows?
        
        Generic Stranger 12 years ago
        
        Advanced diabeetus?
        
        Paul. 12 years ago
        
        Very nice. Last question: what do you call it when the flesh of your upper arm sags down over your elbows?
        
        John bait.
        
        *ducks*
        
        Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago
        
        Last question: what do you call it when the flesh of your upper arm sags down over your elbows?
        
        Foreskin
        
        Cavpitalist 12 years ago
        
        Opritis.
  5. Hyperion 12 years ago
    
    If you are even half way intelligent and can get a boner, you will get tons of poon on POF.
    1. Hugh Akston 12 years ago
      
      So you're saying it's hopeless?
      1. Episiarch 12 years ago
        
        You knew that already, Hugh.
      2. Hyperion 12 years ago
        
        It's never hopeless. Live near a metropolitan area, can talk game with da wiminz folk?, soon you will be overwhelmed with da poon.
    2. prolefeed 12 years ago
      
      If you are even half way intelligent and can get a boner, you will get tons of poon on POF.
      
      Tons of mostly dysfunctional and odd looking poon, but you might get lucky.
  6. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
    
    How about we call 'em 'tulpas' in honor of our esteemed commenter's fully matured embracing of his inner John McCain today. He really came out of the bamboo closet today.
    1. Episiarch 12 years ago
      
      I second this. It has the right mouth feel. What?
      1. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        No it definitely works.
        
        "My uncle just sits around eating doritos all day, bitching about something called cosmotarians. He wears this old Romney shirt covered in Chef Boyardee stains and his tulpas hang over the neck almost to his sleeves. Gross."
        
        fish_remote 12 years ago
        
        ....which also notes that the Dunkin Donuts stayed open per request from law enforcement.
        
        Watch the jokes write themselves!
    2. Hyperion 12 years ago
      
      Did I miss a Tulpa special moment? Aww, so sad.
      1. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        Yeah, he's pretty much to the left of tony on gun control now, and was being a dick about it.
        
        I guess the cosmotarian net has been extended to include those that believe in their 2nd amendment rights.
        
        Hyperion 12 years ago
        
        I sorta noticed that in the last few weeks, but Tulpa hates me, so I don't pay too much attention to him.
        
        Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
        
        You've gone full retard, GBN. Jesus.
        
        No skin off my nose, as you along with everyone else here is just a random dude on the Internet who I would never meet in person anyway, but God you guys are pathetic.
        
        Enjoy living under Senator Allyson Schwartz after you larn Pat Toomey not to mess with the 2nd amendment.
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        No what's pathetic is you seriously trying to argue that keep means keep in a safe.
        
        Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
        
        I was actually arguing that it means "keep from being stolen" which includes keeping it in your immediate control outside the safe.
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        *cough*bullshit*cough*
        
        Tulpa (LAOL-VA)| 4.19.13 @ 2:50PM
        
        Leaving guns laying around isn't keeping, isn't bearing, isn't keeping and bearing, and isn't keeping or bearing. None of the combinations work.
        
        Redmanfms 12 years ago
        
        I was actually arguing that it means "keep from being stolen" which includes keeping it in your immediate control outside the safe.
        
        "Keep" in the context of the 2nd means "to possess" you blithering idiot.
    3. Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
      
      Remember kids; it's Tulpa who's the crybaby, not all the guys bawling about what he says on other threads.
      1. heller 12 years ago
        
        Laughing is the same as crying?
  7. prolefeed 12 years ago
    
    What would you call a muffin top but for neck fat?
    
    Are you trying to spin your neck fat as something not quite so bad, or are you going Full John and going chubby chasing? NTTAWWT
Generic Stranger 12 years ago

The day's exercise could cost up to $333 billion in lost business,

Its $333 million, with an M.

which also notes that the Dunkin Donuts stayed upon per request from law enforcement.

I just want to note that this is not a joke, the article actually says that. LMAO.
1. Ed 12 years ago
  
  Derp, thanks. It's Friday, I'm going home
2. AlmightyJB 12 years ago
  
  "Dunkin Donuts stayed upon per request from law enforcement"
  
  Yeah, you can't make that shit up.
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    That;s fucking awesome. And every time I go back east DD is one of my first stops. Pizza in Boston and DD wherever I can get it
  2. Paul. 12 years ago
    
    Not only does the Dunkin' stay open, but you can't have 11 bullets.
    1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
      
      The boxes have a 7 donut limit.
3. Paul. 12 years ago
  
  Link. Because I thought Stranger was fuckin' with us:
  
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....16787.html
Libertarian 12 years ago

Upon what?! Upon WHAT!!???
Nikki makes the sign of a tsp 12 years ago

Is Reason going to start reporting on the whole "we tell you to stay indoors and search door-to-door" legality issue?
1. darius404 12 years ago
  
  This is only the second I've heard of it. The other place was a Facebook post by a libertarian page. But then again I'm not exactly looking all over for news.
  1. Nikki makes the sign of a tsp 12 years ago
    
    It's being widely ignored.
    1. Hugh Akston 12 years ago
      
      Sort of like you, then?
      1. Hugh Akston 12 years ago
        
        Ooh, or sort of like poetry after TS Eliot?
2. db 12 years ago
  
  I'd like to see more on this. States generally claim wide powers to declare states of emergency which limit (right or wrong) citizens' ability to move about and do business. Whether or not the legal hoops have been jumped through in MA is another question.
  
  Anyone allowing the cops to search their house without a warrant is opening himself up to serious problems.
  1. benji 12 years ago
    
    THERE IS A TERRORIST ON THE LOOSE, YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US
    1. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
      
      THERE IS A TERRORISTWITCH ON THE LOOSE, YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US
      
      Makes about as much sense.
  2. Generic Stranger 12 years ago
    
    They're claiming exigent circumstances, which the Supreme Court has generally allowed them to get away with. IIRC, though, they can only search for the suspect and nothing else. Anything not connected with the exigent circumstance pretty much has to be ignored.
    1. InlineSkate 12 years ago
      
      I wonder how far that goes though.
      
      Lets say on the extreme hypothetical that they find a body in my basement. Would that have to be ignored?
      1. Generic Stranger 12 years ago
        
        I don't know. I'd hate to be the test case, though...
3. Bam! 12 years ago
  
  I wonder how many dogs were shot today.
  1. StinkEye 12 years ago
    
    All of them...
Fluffy 12 years ago

So:

1. Wounded in the shootout, the bomber hid under a pine tree like a sick cat and died hours ago

2. The bomber carjacked somebody else, wasn't dumb enough to release him this time, and is somewhere within a 19 hour driving radius of Boston right now (i.e. he's still east of the Mississippi but more than that we can't say).

Which one? Decisions, decisions.
1. db 12 years ago
  
  hmmm. One would think a random carjacking would result in a missing persons report, especially given the circumstances. Unless the driver happened to have no friends or family to miss him.
2. Underzog 12 years ago
  
  Pssst! Pssst! Hey Fluffy! I have it on good authority that you, Hugh Akston, Pat Buchanan, and the Daily Kos are writing an article in the Nazi Stormfront magazine, blaming me (Underzog), Norman Podhoretz, and the Israeli Mossad of calling up the Jewish runners on their cellphones in the Boston Marathon in order to tell them not to cross the finish line; i.e., information that would've told the Jewish Runners where the explosion was and how to avoid it. Just like when the Mossad called up those 4,000 Jews during 9/11 and told them not to go into work that morning? Did you guys have "hot information" on that story, too?
  
  That's the new anti-Semitic paradigm, isn't it? We joos are supposed to know of Muslim terrorist incidents ahead of time and we only give fellow Jews advance warning and not anyone else. Just like that phony 4,000 Jews story after 911.
  
  "There's no need to fear. Underzog is here!"
  
  "And thou shalt call him Ishmael and he will be a wildman. His hand against everyman and everyman's hand against him."
  
  Genesis 16:22
  
  "Rights are not involved in those primative societies.They make a deal with us. They want to bring us in to develop their oil and then they try to exploit and literally murder us by means of that oil. That is an unforgivable crime."
  
  Ayn Rand's last appearance on the Phil Donahue show.
  
  Jihad Watch
  1. Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago
    
    shut up you racist shit
  2. Hugh Akston 12 years ago
    
    I like that I'm part of your insane conspiracy theories now, Underpants. But let's face it, the fact that you're Jewish isn't the reason nobody likes you.
    1. Episiarch 12 years ago
      
      What the fuck?!? You get lumped into his craziness, but I, who dubbed him "Underschmuck", am not? I HATE YOU HUGH
  3. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
    
    Listen you grosser foss meeskeit, shut the fuck up and shove more food down your pie hole. You are an embarassment to the Jewish people, and may G-d use the righteous hand of his vengeance, the destroying angel, the Melech ha-Movitz, strike a virulent and painful bone cancer upon you, your senile alter kaker of a mother, Fanny, your faygeleh brother Chaim, your kurvah niece Tzipporah and her schmendrick of a husband, and anyone else associated with you. And may you die scared and alone, alienated from all who loved you. And may your neshama be torn apart after your death and cast into oblivion.
    
    Amen.
    1. Episiarch 12 years ago
      
      Look, he can't even include me after I say stuff like this to him?!?
      
      Hey Underschmuck, does it ever strike you as ironic that you're a racist who likes to accuse us of being racists? Go look up projection. Then, slam your head in a car door about three hundred times.
      1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        *shrugs*
        
        Nu?
Caleb Turberville 12 years ago

Luckily, all the destructive activity going on this week should make up for the lost business. Quick, how many windows were broken this week?
A Serious Man 12 years ago

Breaking on Twitter: Local ABC affiliate reports 'automatic gunfire' in Watertown.

Suspect is down.
Caleb Turberville 12 years ago

A CNN producer is reporting a gathering of police and gunshots in an area. Wolf Blitzer is reporting that the Boston PD has rescinded the "all clear."
Caleb Turberville 12 years ago

Another CNN reporter is reported that the police have cornered the suspect in a section of Watertown. Police are using "gas" to try to apprehend him.
Bam! 12 years ago

Fox News: Someone reported that someone was in their parked boat. Though swept earlier, she now saw blood on the boat. After that, the police came and shots were fired.
Bam! 12 years ago

Fox News: Bomb defusing robot brought in to investigate the boat on the boat trailer.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

3. Had a car, disguise, and new identity papers waiting in storage. Drove to the coast of Maine, where he rendezvoused with Putin, who was piloting a mini-sub. They are now en route to the North Pole, where they will unveil their secret fortress on the moon.
1. Caleb Turberville 12 years ago
  
  If he can somehow get to the far side of the Moon, no one would ever be able to find him.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

If he can somehow get to the far side of the Moon

The rocket is fueled and waiting at the Pole, duh.
benji 12 years ago

Why is Obama not there personally leading the manhunt?

Dereliction of duty!
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

Anyone allowing the cops to search their house without a warrant is opening himself up to serious problems.

Those guns- you didn't register them.
A Serious Man 12 years ago

Fox is now reporting suspect is down and incapacitated on the street. Looks like neither one is getting out alive.
1. db 12 years ago
  
  Cue all the conspiracy theories where the authorities couldn't allow them to live because they could implicate someone.
db 12 years ago

Do you think the fucking hockey game will be back on if they get this guy soon? Probably not, since it would start in 7 minutes.
1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
  
  Officially postponed till (probably) tomorrow afternoon.
benji 12 years ago

ABC says Obama called Putin and praised him for his cooperation. LEADERSHIP!

Bush would have screwed this all up.
benji 12 years ago

NBC's Pete Williams: 'the telling word here is body. Body found in boat.'
Bam! 12 years ago

Fox News: Suspect alive, surrounded, and still moving.
A Serious Man 12 years ago

Suspect is alive, surrounded, but still moving, apparently wounded.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

WHAT ABOUT THE MANIFESTO?

THERE HAS TO BE A MANIFESTO.
1. benji 12 years ago
  
  "Fuck you, cut spending"
2. Paul. 12 years ago
  
  WHAT ABOUT THE MANIFESTO?
  
  THERE HAS TO BE A MANIFESTO.
  
  They're probably libertarians, therefore there is no manifesto. It's an un-manifesto.
  
  Plotting to take over the world to leave you alone...
  1. Boisfeuras 12 years ago
    
    They're probably libertarians, therefore there is no manifesto
    
    Ahem.
3. thom 12 years ago
  
  "I wanted my older brother to like me."
  
  That's his manifesto.
Bam! 12 years ago

Satellite of the supposed location
General Butt Naked 12 years ago

Fox news reports that bob is having problems with his phone.
1. Paul. 12 years ago
  
  TSA Bob?
  1. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
    
    Bob's back, phewww. He's okay. Thank lord.
    
    (the reporter "bob", his phone went out and they announced it like official information. "Bob's phone is out, word is that bob's phone is out")
  2. Rhywun 12 years ago
    
    Microsoft Bob?
    1. Teaching Student 12 years ago
      
      Angel Bob?
      1. PapayaSF 12 years ago
        
        There is only one Bob.
        
        PapayaSF 12 years ago
        
        Damn, that was screwed up by the server squirrels, not me. Try http://goo.gl/VFji6
Jerry on the boat 12 years ago

Knock over the boat already!
Jerry on the boat 12 years ago

"Don't twitter any pictures Jim."
Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago

We already got one dead cop and one in critical condition. Let's get this guy in custody or let's get him dead, but let's get him!!!
1. benji 12 years ago
  
  Plus there was that bombing thing!
  1. Kaptious Kristen 12 years ago
    
    Those deaths are nothing compared to the boys in blue!
    1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
      
      "Those deaths are nothing compared to the boys in blue!"
      
      logical fallacy noted.
      1. Kaptious Kristen 12 years ago
        
        Mask slip noted
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        no mask slip whatsoever. When a cop is killed, I hurt. That's the nature of the brotherhood. Do you love your coworkers? I do (I am talking about members of my own agency). Have you had to come to work and heard that overnight your best friend in the agency was shot and killed? I have.
        
        You have no idea what it's like to work as a cop, but the reality is that when a brother officer is killed, I take it personally. There's no "mask slip". It's nothing I hide.
        
        We have a dead cop and a critically wounded cop. I don't want to see any more carnage. Let's get this motherfucker into custody or dead.
        
        benji 12 years ago
        
        We also have a couple of dead kids, a dead woman, and a bunch of people missing limbs. And again you're talking just about the two cops.
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Beccause it JUSET HAPPENED. There's no either.or. For fucks' sake, your density is amazing. Empathy is not a zero sum game
        
        Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
        
        Two members of the Warrior Caste are worth 20 peasants, benji.
        
        You should know these things by now.
        
        Whahappan? 12 years ago
        
        1 K-9 Officer is worth 1000 untermensch.
        
        Francisco d Anconia 12 years ago
        
        And again you're talking just about the two cops.
        
        Well, those cops are significantly more important than mere civilians.
        
        Hyperion 12 years ago
        
        no mask slip whatsoever. When a cop is killed, I hurt. That's the nature of the brotherhood. Do you love your coworkers?
        
        Dude, WTF?
        
        How about when another human is killed, I hurt?
        
        the brotherhood. Do you love your coworkers?
        
        Not so much. It doesn't mean I want them to be killed.
        
        Brotherhood? Are you guys a cult?
        
        Dude, you have a lot to learn about Libertarianism. I think that you have good intentions, but you need a lot of rethinking about things.
        
        Chris Mallory 12 years ago
        
        I hope you hurt often. The only good cop is a de......wait, there are no good cops.
        
        Ted S. 12 years ago
        
        Do you hurt when a non-cop is killed?
  2. Generic Stranger 12 years ago
    
    Bombing? Who gives a shit, he killed a cop! /Dunphy
    1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
      
      Wow. As usual my statements are misstated. Sorry, if I have empathy for my brother officers.
      1. Tman 12 years ago
        
        Dunphy,
        
        Do you see why that could be misinterpreted here on this board?
        
        No one doubts your sympathy for the bombing victims but come on dude.
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Cmon on what? Having empathy for the cops who have just been killed and wounded doesn't take away from having empathy for the people that got killed and hurt back during the marathon.
        
        It's a bogus dichotomy that only an anti-cop bigot (like the ones here) could construct. There's not a zero sum empathy meter where if I have empathy for these cops that it somehow means I don't have empathy for others who have been hurt by him.
        
        RECENTLY, the people that have been hurt are cops. I have no shame or reservations about expressing my displeasure about that and I stand by my statements. I don't like when cops are hurt or killed.
        
        I've risked my life to help save people (Who aren't cops). There is no distinction that I somehow don't have empathy for noncops because I happen to have empathy for cops.
        
        I would hope reasonoids would grieve these two cops, but with the kind of people who exhort me to "die in a fire" I don't expect it.
        
        If people are going to misinterpret, it comes from bigotry and hate. I have no bigotry or hate. I feel pity for those that do
        
        Tman 12 years ago
        
        Oh please spare us the sob stories Dunphy.
        
        You made it sound as if the only thing that mattered for getting the guy was because he killed two cops. The fact that you can't understand why this would be misinterpreted is ridiculous.
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        No, that's how you interpreted it. I can't help it if your bigotry infects your reading comprehension
        
        Generic Stranger 12 years ago
        
        No one doubts your sympathy for the bombing victims but come on dude.
        
        I do. Notice he never actually said it in either of his attempts at clarifications, and it's been pretty well demonstrated in the past that Dunphy has absolutely no real empathy for anyone who's not a cop.
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Oh bullshit. I wear medals on my chest for not only having empathy for noncops, but for risking my life to save the lives of noncops. I've devoted my life (firefighter, cop, lifeguard) to not just having empathy (iow feelings) but I've devoted my life to risking mine to save people who aren't cops
        
        How many lives have you saved? How many burning buildings have you run into to pull people out of? How many sucking chest wounds have you applied an occlusive dressing on? How many times have you done CPR and saved lives.
        
        Spare me your bullshit. I've devoted my life to actually saving people, not just having EMPATHY.
        
        What a bunch of utter horseshit you are full of
        
        Generic Stranger 12 years ago
        
        Yeah, I'll believe it the moment you stop defending cops who kill innocent civilians. Until then, it's pretty much just talk.
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        I defend cops when the UOF appears justified. And when I defend them, the prosecutors/case reviewers are almost always coming down with "justified". I judge cop UOF based on case law. RUle of Law. Not results based analysis.
        
        Show me one incident where I defended a cop who used unjustified force.
        
        benji 12 years ago
        
        Why do you take everything as a personal challenge?
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Dood. I was attacked for daring to express empathy for dead cop and you ca ask that question with a straight face? For fuck's sake, the density is amazing
        
        Tman 12 years ago
        
        Give it a rest Francis.
        
        Generic Stranger 12 years ago
        
        Show me one incident where I defended a cop who used unjustified force.
        
        Long version or short version?
        
        The two most egregious though are the cops who shot the completely innocent guy answering his door in the middle of the night while armed, and the cop in Portland who rolled up on a grieving, unarmed man, shot him with a beanbag round for no absolutely reason, then ended up killing him with an AR-15 because he ran from the psychopath who was shooting at him for no damn reason (note, THIS WAS A FACT PATTERN THAT WAS AKNOWLEDGED BY BOTH SIDES, AND YOU STILL DEFENDED THE FUCKING COP).
        
        Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
        
        Dunphy, you realize that this entire post is you attacking and claiming that you have saved lives, but none of it actually displays any empathy for the bombing victims, right?
        
        You could have avoided this whole ridiculous subthread by saying "Of course. It was my mistake to neglect mentioning the other 98% of this guy's victims."
        
        LTC(ret) John 12 years ago
        
        "I wear medals on my chest for not only having empathy for noncops, but for risking my life to save the lives of noncops."
        
        One for meritorious modesty too?
        
        Sod off, braggart.
        
        robc 12 years ago
        
        How many lives have you saved?
        
        I used to work in Nuke Reactor safety, so millions?
        
        VG Zaytsev 12 years ago
        
        No one doubts your [Dunphy's] sympathy for the bombing victims
        
        I do.
        
        Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
        
        Do you see why that could be misinterpreted here on this board?
        
        Because this board is full of people who are so blinded by cop hate they can't consider anything Dunphy says rationally.
      2. benji 12 years ago
        
        You have to admit that everyone else in the world wants this guy because of the marathon bombing, not because he shot a cop or two doing his job. (Even if the MIT cop might have prevented a massacre in the process.)
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        It's not an either/or. I want him for both. But right NOW, the people who are in danger and/or who were just killed/critically wounded are cops and I don't want to see any more
        
        I have no shame whatsoever about expressing my displeasure at dead cops. It takes NOTHING away from similar displeasure about the people they hurt back during the marathon. It's not an either /.or thing
        
        Empathy is not a zero sum game. It doesn't take away from my empathy for those killed during the marathon to ALSO have empathy for those currently being hurt by this assmunch terrorist
        
        benji 12 years ago
        
        But you do understand why people are like "this guy is missing the big picture" when you're focusing on the cops who did their job rather than the innocent victims right?
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        I do understand that it's not an either/or thing and empathy is not a zero sum game. I am not going to apologize for having empathy for dead and wounded cops. It does not take away from having empathy for the marathon victims that happened days ago.
        
        For fuck's sake, it's not like I would expect a reasonoid to post about how sad it is that an MIT cop is dead.
        
        benji 12 years ago
        
        So you don't understand why people might take your response that the guys need to be stopped because they killed or wounded cops who were doing their jobs as "missing the big picture"?
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        I am saying if they weren't anticop bigots they wouldn't have had that response. There's a timeline here. First he killed people during the marathon. MOST RECENTLY he killed a cop and critically wounded another. Temporal sequence. I'm expressing empathy for the cop just killed and the cop just wounded. It doesn't take away from empathy for the marathon victims
        
        (disclaimer: i've run two marathons myself and it would suck to get bombed at a marathon)
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        I'm pretty sure it would suck to get bombed anywhere
        
        Francisco d Anconia 12 years ago
        
        Goddamn, you are fucking full of yourself. How many times have you bragged in this short thread. Do you have a small dick?
        
        Shut the fuck up! I don't care how many medals you have. I don't care if you were a lifeguard. I don't care that you run marathons.
        
        You are a self centered, megalomaniacal asshole. GUYS LIKE YOU, give cops a bad name. You are making the point of everyone who gives you shit. A real hero would be humble. People here think cops feel they are above the average citizen. YOU give them no reason to believe otherwise.
        
        Real men have no problem with having a little dick Dunphy.
        
        robc 12 years ago
        
        It's not an either/or.
        
        Then mention both.
      3. Hyperion 12 years ago
        
        Dunphy, do you not see what you are doing here? It's a human life. WTF does it make a difference if it is a cop, or not? You think that the life of a cop is worth more than the rest of us?
        
        PapayaSF 12 years ago
        
        Apparently I am the only one here who thinks you are all giving Dunphy undeserved grief on this. It seemed clear to me that he was talking about the most recent events, and not slighting the bombing victims.
        
        And if the death of cops touches him more because he's a cop, yeah, so what? The people of Boston are probably more upset at the deaths of Bostonians, too. Marathon runners might also be especially upset, but that doesn't mean they think runners are more worthy of life than non-runners. That sort of "the connection to me makes it seem worse" thing is natural, and not necessarily evidence of inhumanity.
        
        Some call me Tim? 12 years ago
        
        The problem is that marathon runners don't have a reputation of holding themselves in a caste above the rest of the society and are deserving of extra rights and privileges.
        
        PapayaSF 12 years ago
        
        I'd say that people who participate in sports are often exactly that way, though I grant that most of that is at the professional level.
        
        But it's also true that people whose jobs often expose them to danger (cops, soldiers, firefighters) and/or high stress (ER personnel) are often very bonded by the experience and thus are considered "special" by themselves and others. I'm not arguing in favor of codifying or abusing that status, but it exists for a reason, and so seems unobjectionable in and of itself.
        
        Some call me Tim? 12 years ago
        
        It's different though when they make themselves into a caste, which is what happens with the police and more first responders.
        
        PapayaSF 12 years ago
        
        Like I said, that can be a problem, but I see no evidence that Dunphy was doing that in his comment that set off this brouhaha.
Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago

How does one 19 year old lock down a whole city?
How many other would-be bombers are learning from their mistakes, only to do it better next time?
1. Nazdrakke 12 years ago
  
  No shit. Terrorists 1 Boston -333,000,000
2. AlmightyJB 12 years ago
  
  Yes, the next time they will plant secondary bombs at all of the Dunkin' Donuts.
3. Hyperion 12 years ago
  
  Maybe like this guy,
  
  Klitschko
  
  Russian men have not been completely emasculated like 90% of American men, by PC bullshit and feminazis.
  1. Calidissident 12 years ago
    
    The Klitschkos are Ukrainian. I wouldn't recommend calling them Russian in their presence.
    1. Hyperion 12 years ago
      
      He's still Russian, if you consider the former USSR.
      
      But I get what you are saying.
      
      I have a software engineer friend that is Ukrainian. His name is Igor. Good developer and good guy.
      
      But my point is not changed, a majority of American men are fucking pussies.
      1. Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        "He's still Russian, if you consider the former USSR."
        
        That would make him ex-Soviet. The fact that westerners often referred to the Soviets as the "Russians" because of the fact that it was dominated by Russia and replaced the Russian Empire, doesn't mean that all the people in the USSR were Russian in any sense of the word.
        
        Hyperion 12 years ago
        
        Again, dude, I get it.
        
        I understand exactly what you are saying. They're Ukrainians, I know that. My bad for saying Russian.
        
        It's sort of like how Americans lump all South Americans together as Latins or Hispanic.
        
        Problem with that, is if you call a Brazilian Latin or Hispanic, you need to be ready to fight, because they don't like either term, and consider themselves to be neither, because they don't speak Spanish, and the culture is completely different.
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        "Again, dude, I get it.
        
        I understand exactly what you are saying. They're Ukrainians, I know that. My bad for saying Russian."
        
        To be clear, I'm not trying to be a dick about it. Sorry if it came through that way via the Internet.
        
        Your comparison with Brazilians is a good one, although I thought Latin (as long as its used as short for Latin American) was ok, as its a broader term? Portuguese is just as Latin as Spanish. Although I can see why even that could get annoying when many people assume Brazilians are just like another country of Spanish-speaking Latin Americans, which obviously isn't the case.
        
        Hyperion 12 years ago
        
        Hey, Cali, it's all cool with me and you, I completely understand what you were saying, and I didn't think you were being a dick.
        
        Ah, there is the Brazilan thing. Well, they are unique. They are the only 'Latin American' country that does not speak Spanish.
        
        They are also the most populous and economically powerful nation in South or central America.
        
        IMHO, they are both Hispanic and Latin. Because the first settlers of the country were from the Iberian peninsula, and they speak one of the Latin romance languages.
        
        But, they want to be known as South Americans. And they are very offended if you call them Latin or Hispanic.
        
        And trust me on this one, the culture is completely different from any other place in Latin America. They are... a lot like us in Murika, unless you count friendliness, outside of the southern USA.
        
        Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
        
        Is Belize not considered Latin America? What about Suriname, Guyana and French Guiana? Generally curious.
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        Apatheist, Belize is not considered a part of Latin America. The Spanish claimed it, but never settled, and then the British took it from them. Spanish is still widely spoken there, however. Suriname and Guyana are definitely not, as they speak Dutch and English and (to my knowledge) were never even nominally part of the Spanish Empire.
        
        As I said in my other post, French Guiana is technically considered a part of Latin America, as is Haiti
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        "Ah, there is the Brazilan thing. Well, they are unique. They are the only 'Latin American' country that does not speak Spanish."
        
        Actually, Haiti and French Guiana are technically considered part of Latin America. I didn't know this myself until recently, but it makes sense for consistency sake. I guess the reason Brazil is thought of as Latin American more than those places is a) It's much larger and more famous b) Portuguese is more similar to Spanish than French is c) the racial mix in Brazil is more similar to the average mix in the Spanish Americas (though still significantly different from most Spanish-speaking LA countries) than those places. And of course most people don't even know French Guiana exists.
        
        "IMHO, they are both Hispanic and Latin. Because the first settlers of the country were from the Iberian peninsula, and they speak one of the Latin romance languages."
        
        Indeed, the Latin term "Hispania" referred to all of the Iberian Peninsula, but today it seems to refer more to Spain and its cultural offspring. Wikipedia (FWIW) says this as well.
        
        "And trust me on this one, the culture is completely different from any other place in Latin America."
        
        I'm sure. Although I have to point out that there are significant cultural differences between different Spanish-speaking countries, as I'm sure you're well aware of.
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        "They are... a lot like us in Murika, unless you count friendliness, outside of the southern USA."
        
        I'm a bit confused on the meaning here? Are you saying Brazilians are like Americans, but friendlier (except when compared to Southerners)?
        
        BTW, I've always wanted to visit Brazil and am planning on making a trip with friends after I graduate from college. From everything I've heard/learned, it seems like a really fun place, great weather and beaches, good sites, and Brazilian women are absolutely gorgeous (as I'm sure you can attest to)
        
        Hyperion 12 years ago
        
        Cali, I...... ok, I'm a little drunk.... but I want to talk to you about this.
        
        But, yes, Brazilians are a lot like us, except more friendly, the ones I know anyway, they are a lot more like peeps in TN than in MD, and especially anywhere in the north.
        
        Hope that makes sense...
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        Haha, yeah that makes sense. Hope you feel alright in the morning!
A Serious Man 12 years ago

Suspect is in the boat, refusing to come out.
1. Bam! 12 years ago
  
  He's on a boat, motherfucker, come look at he!
  
  Take a good hard look at the motherfuckin' boat!
  1. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
    
    a three hour tour, a three hour tour...
    
    Why do they keep saying the exact address? I'm sure the homeowners love that.
2. Tman 12 years ago
  
  "now go away or i shall taunt you a second time!!"
3. AlmightyJB 12 years ago
  
  What, are they out of bullets?
4. Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago
  
  Chechens are not thought of as a sea-faring people
  1. Hyperion 12 years ago
    
    Yeah, but if there is any such thing as a mini-nuke, which I doubt, the guy is from the former USSR. You can figure out the rest for yourself.
5. A Serious Man 12 years ago
  
  Sailors fighting in the dance hall!
6. thom 12 years ago
  
  Never thought he'd be on a boat...
Ice Nine 12 years ago

Seems like this is their big opportunity to legitimately use their armored vehicles.
1. Bam! 12 years ago
  
  Wrong. This is clearly a situation for legitimate use of drones.
2. benji 12 years ago
  
  It's looked like they mostly just drove them around and parked them in the street like normal.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

FBI underwater demolition team preparing to tie up the loose ends.
1. A Serious Man 12 years ago
  
  The boat is just sitting in a backyard.
  1. Ice Nine 12 years ago
    
    Still, seems like an ideal place to waterboard him.
Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago

A lot of police work involves standing around.
1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  God, truer words were never spoken
2. Chris Mallory 12 years ago
  
  Usually with their heads up their asses.
Sevo 12 years ago

"Dunkin Donuts stayed upon per request from law enforcement."

This HAS to be a joke!
1. Sevo 12 years ago
  
  I see I'm late to the party.
A Serious Man 12 years ago

The Feds and Mass police face their most daunting challenge yet: having to stand around and negotiate with the guy to convince him to surrender peacefully.
1. Joe M 12 years ago
  
  They can't confiscate every television in America and erase memories.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

The boat is just sitting in a backyard.

You're disrupting the narrative.
General Butt Naked 12 years ago

I'll never think of "the little guy in the boat" the same anymore.

Thanks terr'sts.
1. Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago
  
  A boat. On land.
  In Watertown.
  1. Jerry on the boat 12 years ago
    
    He's just waiting for the perfect storm.
A Serious Man 12 years ago

As many as 10 explosions now reported in area where suspect is hold up. Robot had been sent in earlier to search for explosives.
1. Joe M 12 years ago
  
  They shouldn't have sent in the T-600. Rubber skin gave it away.
General Butt Naked 12 years ago

Someone get a dog to put in front of the boat.
1. Ice Nine 12 years ago
  
  Tiger, man, tiger.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

"Surrender? I don't think I can get all you guys in the boat, but thanks for offering."
1. Paul. 12 years ago
  
  *rimshot*
General Butt Naked 12 years ago

67 Franklin Street, over and over again. Jesus.

Have some respect for the homeowners you dicks.
1. Scooby 12 years ago
  
  Hey, they let this guy hide out in their boat; they deserve all the notoriety they get.
  
  /cop logic
  1. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
    
    Hopefully they have a dog to shoot, or something. Ya know, let the heroes in blue blow off some steam.
  2. Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
    
    Fucking One Percenters with their fucking terrorist hideout yachts.
Capt Ace Rimmer 12 years ago

Gov. Deval Patrick, meanwhile, lifted an order that confined an estimated one million residents to their homes

Fucking stupid lock-down only helped the perp evade apprehension. The minute the lock-down was lifted apparently some lady noticed perp activity in her backyard and alerted police.
1. benji 12 years ago
  
  Yeah, that was hilarious. She goes outside for one second and immediately notices that things are amiss.
  
  Everybody was probably huddled around their TVs or computers or whatever rather than looking outside.
2. Joe M 12 years ago
  
  Pretty interesting. They told everyone to send in information, videos, photos, etc, before they knew anything. Thanks to that crowdsourcing, they were able to figure out who the suspects were rapidly. As soon as the suspects were at large, they shut out the rest of society and failed to accomplish a damn thing, until relinquishing their police state wet dream and immediately made progress again. I hope lessons are learned from this...
  
  BWAHAHAHAHAHA, sorry.
  1. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
    
    Not to mention that dude is outside the perimeter they were searching.
3. Paul. 12 years ago
  
  "Don't leave your homes... if you see anything suspicious, call 911 right away"
Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago

Shut up you fat fuck

Michael Moore
?@MMFlint
Younger brother Jahar was captain of the wrestling team and a volunteer with "Best Buddies", helping kids with Downs Syndrome
1. Joe M 12 years ago
  
  Hitler set up special youth groups to help at-risk kids.
2. ThatSkepticGuy 12 years ago
  
  Natch. Fat Fuck and his "Tax Day. Patriots Day." tweet end up being wrong, so he's just gonna shift gears to, "LOOK AT WHAT THE RIGHT WINGERS AND CAPITALISM DROVE THIS INNOCENT YOUTH TO BECOME!".
Kurbster 12 years ago

Will the government repay all the workers and small business owners that lost a day of wages and revenue because of this little police state stunt?

Lemme shake this magic 8-ball and throw it out the window, because I know that answer will be a big fat NO
1. benji 12 years ago
  
  They'd just be repaying themselves so it's probably best to not involve the government.
  1. Kurbster 12 years ago
    
    oh I know. I just find it funny how the government can completely fuck up your day and not have to compensate you whatsoever
    1. benji 12 years ago
      
      something something sovereign something something the government is all of us something something
2. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  Govt's primary concern should be people's safety. Revenue takes a backseat. You can argue it was a good or bad decision to do this "police state" stunt, but it was done with the intent of protecting life.
  1. Bam! 12 years ago
    
    People die in car crashes every day. Therefore, in the name of public safety, lets shut down the highways.
    1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
      
      Wow. That's a dumb analogy even for here.
      1. Bam! 12 years ago
        
        How so? More people die and are injured in car accidents than the sum of all deaths and injuries from these two morons.
        
        Why should $300 million worth of business be disrupted for these guys?
      2. Fluffy 12 years ago
        
        Dumpy, they don't shut Israel every time a bomb goes off.
        
        Think of the implications of this: we just broadcast to the world that TWO men with homemade weapons can bring a city to a standstill, cost hundreds of millions in economic losses, and imprison a million Americans in their homes. They shut down a major city and state capital.
        
        If I'm al Qaeda I abandon the spectacular attack philosophy and send 2 man teams into 10 cities at once.
      3. Fluffy 12 years ago
        
        Autocorrect mocked your name, not me. Sorry.
  2. Ted S. 12 years ago
    
    Govt's primary concern should be people's safety
    
    not officer safety.
Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago

Has anyone called in Mark Wahlberg for support?
1. Paul. 12 years ago
  
  Donnie keeps photobombing.
2. Ted S. 12 years ago
  
  The bomb set off some good vibrations.
wheelock 12 years ago

Say what you will about threaded comments, but whenever I go to CNNs website I am thankful for them as they make it really obvious what kind of intellectual content one would expect to find there. Without fail you see exactly one root comment which is without fail deleted and every single one after that is a "reply" humans are so very very dumb.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

67 Franklin Street, over and over again. Jesus.

Have some respect for the homeowners you dicks.

That's okay, they can turn it into a tourist attraction.
1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  It's going to be like 867-5309
  
  They are going to have to change their address or something
  1. Stormy Dragon 12 years ago
    
    P. Sherman
    42 Wallaby Way
    Sydney
2. Sevo 12 years ago
  
  That boat's gonna fetch a pretty penny on ebay!
  1. Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago
    
    at least the larger chunks might.
benji 12 years ago

I like when these reporters have their BAWSTAN accent break through their practiced midwestern accent.
Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago

The boat, the boat, the boat is on fire.
benji 12 years ago

These shots of like a thousand cops and FBI dudes just standing around the perimeter are hilarious.

What are they there to do? What do they think they would do? Isn't the guy in a boat that's already surrounded?

Hope there's no crime going on in the rest of Boston.
1. Joe M 12 years ago
  
  What, you expect them to just leave and do their jobs?
  1. benji 12 years ago
    
    Well, they claim they're afraid he might have a bomb so I'd imagine it's not a good idea to pack as much of the police force into the blast radius as possible. But I'm just a civilian.
    1. JeremyR 12 years ago
      
      Claim? You act like the dude hadn't set off a number of bombs already. Or thrown them out the car he was in.
      
      I realize Libertarians can't really cope with terrorism as it doesn't make sense, so it can't possibly exist. But it still does. Guys with bombs simply can't be ignored...
      1. Sevo 12 years ago
        
        "I realize Libertarians can't really cope with terrorism as it doesn't make sense, so it can't possibly exist."{
        
        Pretty sure that brush is at least a foot too wide.
      2. benji 12 years ago
        
        Good job reading your fantasies into random word choice. I wasn't accusing them of anything sinister.
        
        Fix GAF.
      3. Joe M 12 years ago
        
        Wow, you really misinterpreted that. I think benji's legit point was that they should be more concerned with officer safety. I can see why that's hard to imagine though.
      4. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
        
        I realize Libertarians can't really cope with terrorism as it doesn't make sense
        
        Murder, attempted murder, battery, destruction of property.
        
        No, not too hard to make sense of it.
        
        Some of us don't need an American version of the Great Satan (Al-Qaeda) to check under our beds at night for.
  2. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    They ARE doing their job. If they are assigned there, that's their job. There are enough LEO's to handle the rest of Boston, I can guarantee you.
    1. Calidissident 12 years ago
      
      If the rest are enough, does this mean they can afford to substantially cut back on the police force?
      1. benji 12 years ago
        
        SOMALIA! AUSTERITY! OFFICER SAFETY!
      2. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        No, it means on incidents like this, they use a lot of people on overtime.
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        Yep, cops getting extra taxpayer $ standing around doing nothing, while they shut down all commercial activity for the proles (except of course for the people that serve their precious doughnut joints)
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Whining noted.
        
        Ted S. 12 years ago
        
        Whining noted.
        
        First amendment is a bitch, isn't it?
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        Yeah, whining over all the people who had to stay in their homes and all the people who lost money because the city was shut down over one guy. Wow Dunphy, really?
        
        Chris Mallory 12 years ago
        
        No government employee should earn overtime. If you want to live off the citizens, you should work until the job is done for no extra pay.
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        lol. Yea, that's a winner argument
        
        Wind Rider 12 years ago
        
        Works with the military. . .24/7 or not, same paycheck.
        
        LTC(ret) John 12 years ago
        
        You cannot expect some cop who gets to go home to his family every night to have to suffer without overtime! Stupid soldiers, should have a union!
        
        Nazdrakke 12 years ago
        
        I just love it when cops tell me how much they deserve because their job is so dangerous and stressful. I want to run them thru 72hrs of continuous ops and watch them shit their silk panties.
        
        robc 12 years ago
        
        Are cops per hour or salaried?
        
        If salaried, hell no they shouldnt be paid for OT.
        
        When a server dies, IT guys dont get OT for working thru the night.
2. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  I can guarantee you there are still plenty of cops doing their thing throughout Boston. If it's like any incident of this sort I've been on (dozens), you've got a lot of guys on perimeter sucking up overtime. The Fan Belt Inspectors are mostly 9 to 5ers anyway, so they are likely on overtime too.
Kaptious Kristen 12 years ago

How many hours will they milk this before they finally decide to risk their hides, only to pull out a body that's clearly been dead for nearly 24 hours?
1. benji 12 years ago
  
  The cops apparently checked the boat a few hours ago during a sweep. The woman noticed the blood after the lockdown was lifted and they came back.
  1. Sevo 12 years ago
    
    FOX is repeating comments regarding explosions questioning whether they are flash-grenades or something from the guy in the boat.
    And not ONE has mentioned that detonating an explosive inside a boat would pretty much mean no boat.
    1. StinkEye 12 years ago
      
      In a dystopian future, where pressure cookers and galvanized pipe have been outlawed, shitbags Chechnyan terrorists taunt the police with firecrackers and snap-poppers from boats yard anchors, with relative impunity...
  2. tarran 12 years ago
    
    The kid had cornered himself; if you look, the residence is on the border between the residential zone and the commercial/industrial zone bordering the Charles River. He couldn't easily work his way west, east would put him in the center of the manhunt, south would put him out on the open. He should have been trying to work his way north, crossing Mount Auburn Street and then skirting past the Watertown High School until he could steal a car.
    
    I don't think he knew what to do. My guess is that his older brother was the energetic one.
    1. Sevo 12 years ago
      
      "He couldn't easily work his way west, east would put him in the center of the manhunt, south would put him out on the open. He should have been trying to work his way north, crossing Mount Auburn Street and then skirting past the Watertown High School until he could steal a car."
      
      In a movie, but these guys are 19-26YOs. Remember being that age? Remember how far in advance you planned?
      1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        It's also a bit more difficult when you have a massive adrenaline dump and the entire edifice of the Boston area law enforcement community bearing down on you.
2. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  And if they rushed in and something bad happened, the same people who would criticize them for standing by and "milking" would be criticizing them for stampeding in too quickly.
  
  *if* they have him contained in the boat, then they will follow protocol, try to negotiate (maybe he's dead, maybe he's not etc.) but there is rarely a reason to RUSH in , especially when as far as they know he's isolated (iow there is no hostage consideration etc.)
  1. mad libertarian guy 12 years ago
    
    but there is rarely a reason to RUSH in , especially when as far as they know he's isolated
    
    Unless you're suspected of possessing marijuana, and it's Zero Dark Thirty when most people are in their beds soundly asleep.
I Dug It 12 years ago

They're waiting to see who falls asleep first. Like in Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
Anonymous Coward 12 years ago

I wonder if Chechens are brown enough for John McCain and Lindsey Graham to want to go to war with them.
1. Kurbster 12 years ago
  
  depends on how badly burned he gets
  
  We might be going after Africa
  1. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
    
    depends on how badly burned he gets
    
    Seems like a good time to revisit some of that cracker jack police work we've come to expect from American law enforcement.
    
    Burn it down...burn that motherfucker.
2. Calidissident 12 years ago
  
  That would either involve going to war against Russia or (more likely) joining Russia in a campaign against Chechen rebel groups. Tough decision for McGraham to team up with the Russians.
  1. Wind Rider 12 years ago
    
    Probably a 'team-up'. The Russians have been chuckling for almost a decade while we run around and make the rubble they left bounce in Afghanistan. I'm sure they'have little objection to us throwing more American soldiers to get chewed up into the mess they made out of Chechneya, with the bonus of it getting pounded some more on someone else's dime.
Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago

I can't wait for the Taiwan news animation of this.
Eduard van Haalen 12 years ago

Bloomberg: "Magnitude 7 quake hits near Leshan, Sichuan, China"
1. Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago
  
  shit.
2. Kurbster 12 years ago
  
  IT'S REALLY SERIOUSLY FUCKING HAPPENING
3. SIV 12 years ago
  
  Is that spelled Szechuan on the menus?
  1. Sevo 12 years ago
    
    Seriously?
    Usually "Sichuan"; inland, mountainous province, lots of spice to hide the 'flavor' of food that was kept too long.
  2. Wind Rider 12 years ago
    
    Szechuan if using Wade-Giles romanization (old style); Sichuan if using PinYin (new and hottie style). Both literally mean "Four Streams"
I Dug It 12 years ago

If this guy were smart & really wanted to mess with America, he'd give himself up and then spend the next 10 years doing a Ted Bundy with law enforcement and the media.
1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  The Ted Bundy interrogation transcripts are a GREAT read if you haven't read them already. I read them years ago. They actually helped prepare me for an interrogation I had with a person of interest in an Arson. Frankly, they helped me get a confession, since some of the psychology of the offenders was so similar.
  
  Bundy was a scary guy. Those transcripts are a great insight into the mind of a serial killer.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

"Magnitude 7 quake hits near Leshan, Sichuan, China"

Damned Chinamen, trying to manipulate our news.
1. benji 12 years ago
  
  Dick Cheney taking advantage of the distraction to use his earthquake machine.
2. A Serious Man 12 years ago
  
  It must be Ming the Merciless!
  
  Pathetic Earthlings, who can save you now?!
3. Hyperion 12 years ago
  
  A mag 7 could be very serious, or not. Depending on the depth and other things.
  
  My son was in one in Seattle, that if I remember correctly was a 7.2, and it didn't do much real damage. It was very deep.
  
  Worst one I've ever experienced was a 5.4 in Indiana, from the New Madrid fault. Scary as hell because of the swaying motion, but not much damage.
Ice Nine 12 years ago

I think it is curious we haven't heard about any negotiating. My guess as to the reason: You can't negotiate with a stiff. They're just waiting for his body to equilibrate with the ambient temp.
1. A Serious Man 12 years ago
  
  I don't see how he survives this. The homeowner found bloody bandages and clothing indicating he's been wounded for some time.
  
  I think he's alive right now but is in shock. By the time the cops get the nerve to approach him he'll have bled out.
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    More reasonoid brilliant predictions!
    
    (hint: he's alive)
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

on incidents like this, they use a lot of people on overtime.

Selflessly devoted, they are.

Noble servants, dedicated to the protection of their fellow citizens.

As long as the money's there.
1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  Yes, God forbid we actually PAY our public servants. How horrible
  1. Joe M 12 years ago
    
    Overtime to stand around? No thanks.
benji 12 years ago

FBI agent doing expert things:
https://vine.co/v/bU6YvrOvnvx

They've identified the bomber:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIQRfT_CUAAPfcF.jpg
1. Generic Stranger 12 years ago
  
  The FBI agent one needs to be a .gif. Stat.
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    lol.
    
    Fan Belt Inspectors
    
    Famous But Incompetent
    
    ... Ladies and Gentlemen, I present for you... the FBI
2. Suthenboy 12 years ago
  
  Yeeeeah. Fucking Keystone Cops. I got the notion that was the case. It usually is.
Bam! 12 years ago

Suspect in custody.
benji 12 years ago

Guess they got him. In ambulance.
Kaptious Kristen 12 years ago

They might have him...applause heard at boat
Slammer 12 years ago

Howie Carr on O'Reilly's show just said, "We let in these political refugees and this is the thanks we get." And "No one asked the people of Massachusetts if they wanted Chechyens here..."
1. Calidissident 12 years ago
  
  Obviously it would be so much better if the terrorists had been born in the USA
  1. Chris Mallory 12 years ago
    
    No, it would have been better if we had kept the 3rd world savages out of the USA.
    1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
      
      Chris Mallory sexually molests his daughter and takes pictures for his friends on Second Life.
      
      Chris Mallory's youtube channel (Read his comments and you know its him)
      
      Chris Mallory's Google+ account
      1. Sevo 12 years ago
        
        Heroic Mulatto| 4.19.13 @ 8:58PM |#
        "Chris Mallory sexually molests his daughter..."
        
        That's not his daughter, that's his PIG!
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        If it's in the Mallory household, how can you tell the difference?
        
        I guess the pig would be cleaner.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Seriously, read those links. Mallory is a Second Life nerd. That's even more pathetic than being a furry porn enthusiast.
        
        Sevo 12 years ago
        
        I think...
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Can't you just see Chris Mallory? Morbidly obese Chris Mallory, sitting at his keyboard, wiping the Cheetos dust off his fingers onto his black t-shirt? Neck-beareded Chris Mallory, wearing cargo shorts and sandals, even in the middle of Winter?
    2. Irish 12 years ago
      
      Yeah, nothing says '3rd world savages' like fucking Chechen refuges.
      
      The people in question have multiple lawyers in the family. Fucking barbarians, man.
    3. Sevo 12 years ago
      
      Chris Mallory| 4.19.13 @ 8:54PM |#
      "No, it would have been better if we had kept the 3rd world savages out of the USA."
      
      Chris, good to know we can always rely on you for stupid, inflammatory statements.
    4. Calidissident 12 years ago
      
      Is Russia third world? Are Chechens not white Caucasians?
      
      Arguing that we have to keep out a group of people because some of them will do bad things is idiotic. We might as well make it illegal to have kids, because some will grow up to become murderers and criminals.
      1. Irish 12 years ago
        
        Not to mention the fact that the family is apparently pretty high achieving.
        
        These are not the sort of people you would expect to have terrorists in the family, at least going by what I've seen of this family and the uncle's comments.
        
        Zakalwe 12 years ago
        
        Most of the 9/11 hijackers were from middle class families. It's the bored, underachieving sons from those backgrounds who tend toward this. The proles might strap someone else's bomb on or go to Iraq/Afghanistan as a spear carrier, but rarely do anything independent.
    5. Fluffy 12 years ago
      
      Since the entire Chechnya dispute revolves around the fact that Russia says there's no such place, and there's only Russia, are you saying Russians should be prevented from traveling to the US?
Kaptious Kristen 12 years ago

Alive, apparently
1. Kurbster 12 years ago
  
  poor kid....should of killed himself when he had the chance
  
  I can't imagine the solitary confinement and torture this kid will go through at the hands of the vengeful government
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    Jesus Christ.
    1. Kurbster 12 years ago
      
      I guess "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't ring a bell in your pea-brain statist mind
      1. Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
        
        He's guilty.
        
        Kurbster 12 years ago
        
        way to be judge and jury
        
        you want to volunteer to be executioner, too? mind of well....you obviously have no respect for the rule of law
        
        Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
        
        I'm not a judge, not on the jury and not an executioner. Doesn't change the fact that he is guilty.
        
        Kurbster 12 years ago
        
        what evidence do you have that gives you that right? You see an image on TV from the FBI, and suddenly you know everything about the case?
        
        THIS is why we are hated around the world. We do this in other countries too that we occupy...not just here
        
        Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
        
        I have every right to say whatever the fuck I want including that he's guilty. This guy is guilty.
        
        Your second paragraph is nonsensical.
        
        Kurbster 12 years ago
        
        you're hopeless
        
        keep on being glued to that MSM trash while the adults who care about the penal code do their job
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        THIS is why we are hated around the world. We do this in other countries too that we occupy...not just here
        
        Dude, antiwar.com is that way ------
        
        Kurbster 12 years ago
        
        huh...I thought I was on a libertarian site, not a neocon shithole
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        What in the world are you even talking about? We're not saying the guy should be tortured until he gives up any potential comrades. We're saying he is probably guilty given that he got in a shootout with police officers.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        huh...I thought "neocon" referred to a political ideology of American imperialism, not "someone who disagrees with Kurbster".
        
        Funny, that.
        
        Kurbster 12 years ago
        
        sorry...I forgot you people hate ron paul and his accurate description of foreign policy that causes blowback
        
        Keep on living in the bubble that your military and police force are exempt from government corruption. Vote for rand paul while you're at it, too
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        Do you ever read any threads here about the police? If this guys innocent, there some pretty gaping "coincidences" that need to be explained. I think US govt. foreign policy does play a role in motivating people to join anti-American terror groups, but we don't know exactly what these guys' motivations were, nor does that justify their actions. Your argument also seems to be contradictory. On the one hand, your claiming conspiracy, and on the other you're claiming blowback - which is it?
        
        And what exactly is the point of the Rand Paul comment? How is that relevant? Even if you think he's not as good as Ron Paul, he's still far better than about 99.9% of federal politicians.
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        Do you ever read any threads here about the police? If this guys innocent, there some pretty gaping "coincidences" that need to be explained. I think US govt. foreign policy does play a role in motivating people to join anti-American terror groups, but we don't know exactly what these guys' motivations were, nor does that justify their actions. Your argument also seems to be contradictory. On the one hand, your claiming conspiracy, and on the other you're claiming blowback - which is it?
        
        And what exactly is the point of the Rand Paul comment? How is that relevant? Even if you think he's not as good as Ron Paul, he's still far better than about 99.9% of federal politicians.
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        Don't know why that double posted
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        What do you mean "you people" you shit?
        
        And by that, I mean that I am second to no one in my advocacy for a policy of non-intervention.
        
        But that doesn't mean I put on a hair shirt and whip myself crying "Why do they hate us!"
        
        Psst...I've actually been around the world; "they" don't hate us. Only pissy Euro-socialists "hate us".
        
        Gladstone 12 years ago
        
        Only pissy Euro-socialists "hate us"
        They also hate America for having guns and not having universal healthcare and no hate speech laws/
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        They also hate us because when Americans (nowadays) go to a baseball game, they don't so mercilessly taunt the Black players that they have to stop the game.
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        HM, that is one of the reasons why I always laugh when a European tries to lecture Americans about how racist our country is.
        
        Nazdrakke 12 years ago
        
        OMFG seriously. I've been all over Europe and to an American the overt racism is mind-blowing at first.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Yeah, it was in Europe than some dude want to beat me up because he thought I was a Gypsy.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Dude, he got in a running gun battle with the police.
        
        Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago
        
        innocent people don't run from cops, like ever.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        IF YOU SELLING DRUGS IN A SCHOOL ZONE....
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Well, normally they don't shoot at them while throwing bombs out the window of the car.
        
        Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
        
        Love the Paul, hate the Paultard.
      2. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        I never said he was guilty. Nice strawman.
        
        I'm just commenting on your ridiculous statement. It's absurdity really stands on its own, but I'll still add "Jesus Christ"
        
        Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
        
        It's ok to say he is guilty. This isn't a court of law.
        
        Kurbster 12 years ago
        
        and you're wrong for saying that at the moment
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        I'm not saying he is or he isn't because it's tangential to the idiocy of your statement
        
        which is why I just said "jesus christ"
        
        Fluffy 12 years ago
        
        The "poor kid" part is too charitable, but I think a reasonable case could be made that the kid would in fact be better off if he had "killed himself when he got the chance". So that's not really idiotic.
    2. Fluffy 12 years ago
      
      Given supermax conditions, it's not unreasonable to say that the suspect might have been better off not being taken alive.
      1. Some call me Tim? 12 years ago
        
        I think he ran out of bullets in the final firefight, and failed to set one aside as a final solution.
  2. Calidissident 12 years ago
    
    Not that I think the government should torture anyone, but I can't really gather enough sympathy in any scenario to say "poor kid" about this SOB
  3. Sevo 12 years ago
    
    Sarc? I hope.
  4. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
    
    Still might die. We know he was bleeding, but not how badly.
2. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
  
  That's the part I am most surprised at.
Hyperion 12 years ago

They are saying he is in custody, at the FluffPo
Jerry on the boat 12 years ago

And...end scene.
benji 12 years ago

Hopefully Obama will give a speech from the Oval Office now that he's solved this crisis.
1. Sevo 12 years ago
  
  He's been directing the investigation from the golf-cart!
2. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
  
  Oh don't worry, there will now be 72 hours of Obama worship on all Boston TV and radio channels.
  1. Hyperion 12 years ago
    
    And that's different from the norm, because why?
    1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
      
      There's normally some sports in there too.
    2. Ted S. 12 years ago
      
      I should point out that this comment was not here when I typed mine.
  2. Ted S. 12 years ago
    
    How is that any different than normal?
    1. Sevo 12 years ago
      
      Overtaken by events!
      Got me earlier with the statement that Dunkin' Donuts was kept open at the request of the cops.
      You think you got some satire, and BAM! OBE.
3. Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
  
  Obama IS batting 1000 in solving a crisis.
  
  Part of it is luck and timing, of course.
  1. Calidissident 12 years ago
    
    WTF?
    1. Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
      
      The financial crisis of 2008-09 - solved.
      
      The jobs loss crisis - solved.
      
      Osama bin Laden crisis - dead/solved.
      
      The mortgage foreclosure crisis - solved.
      
      The deficit crisis - cut in half as promised.
      
      BP oil spill disaster - solved for GOM citizens.
      
      Comprehendo?
      1. Sevo 12 years ago
        
        Palin's Buttplug| 4.19.13 @ 9:26PM |#
        "The financial crisis of 2008-09 - solved."
        The jobs loss crisis - solved."
        Osama bin Laden crisis - dead/solved.
        The mortgage foreclosure crisis - solved.
        The deficit crisis - cut in half as promised.
        BP oil spill disaster - solved for GOM citizens.
        Comprehendo?"
        
        OK, question to those who have not suffered brain damage:
        Do you think dipshit bleeves this, or is it simply an attempt to garner attention?
        
        Nazdrakke 12 years ago
        
        "Do you think dipshit bleeves this, or is it simply an attempt to garner attention?"
        
        Damn, tough call. Can I see his browser history first?
        
        Sevo 12 years ago
        
        Help yourself, but I don't want to know about it. Prolly too many goats in weird poses. And chickens...
        
        Joe M 12 years ago
        
        Viewing this from Firefox instead of Chrome so your nonsense isn't blocked like usual, but damn that is some funny shit.
        
        ThatSkepticGuy 12 years ago
        
        I thought someone was making a clever stab at sarcasm/irony until I saw the username.
      2. benji 12 years ago
        
        What did Obama "solve" during the BP oil spill?
        
        Sevo 12 years ago
        
        His handicap was corrected downwards when they caught him bagging sand.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        He didn't actually solve any of those problems. The deficit got cut in spite of his protestations, the drop in unemployment is totally the result of people leaving the labor force, BP had nothing to do with him, and all of the policies related to the financial crisis originated with George Bush and Obama simply continued them.
        
        PB is hysterical.
        
        Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
        
        The economy has added more jobs since Obama took office than it did in his predecessor's entire eight years in office.
        
        http://factcheck.org/2013/04/o.....ly-update/
        
        Numbers don't lie. The market has gone from 806 to 1470 - the largest % increase and point gain in US History.
        
        I will kill you on the data.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        The market has also shot up since evil obstructionist Republicans started thwarting Obama's every move.
        
        So do they get credit for the stock market increase since 2010, since the house is where the actual economic bills come from? You know, per the United States Constitution?
        
        You also, of course, completely ignore that this 'recovery' has been incredibly weak in terms of jobs and income increases, which are the only things the average American should care about.
        
        How about those numbers, idiot?
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        I will kill you on the data.
        
        You're killing me alright, you Commie nutcase.
        
        Jordan 12 years ago
        
        From your own link:
        
        Neither president's record is good by historical standards, especially when compared with the 22.8 million jobs added during Bill Clinton's eight years in office.
        
        Numbers don't lie. The market has gone from 806 to 1470 - the largest % increase and point gain in US History.
        
        Meaningless. The market was over 1500 in October 2007. It's amazing what you can accomplish when you have a central bank siphoning wealth from the poorest citizens to the financial market.
        
        Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
        
        The "poorest citizens" earn their income on savings accounts? Don't be an idiot.
        
        Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        Not much, but they do see the value of their income diminished by inflation (and I don't just mean CPI price inflation for the last time)
        
        Sevo 12 years ago
        
        "Palin's Buttplug| 4.19.13 @ 10:03PM |#
        "The economy has added more jobs since Obama took office than it did in his predecessor's entire eight years in office."
        
        You sleazy dipshit, did you major in cherry picking? Do you think anyone here is dumb enough to accept that horseshit?
        Go fuck your daddy, dipshit.
        
        VG Zaytsev 12 years ago
        
        The economy at the same point in Bush's administration (50 months from his inauguration) had created more than twice as many jobs as Obama's has so far.
        
        Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
        
        He made BP cough up $20 billion in restitution for destroying the income of Gulf businesses.
        
        benji 12 years ago
        
        And this "solved" the oil all over the Gulf how?
      3. Calidissident 12 years ago
        
        Round of applause PB. That is some funny shit. You should really look into comedy.
      4. Irish 12 years ago
        
        Hey, I lived through all those things and had about as much to do with fixing them as Obama did. Where's my credit?
        
        Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
        
        Run for president then. Tell everyone how you saved the country from the Bushpigs.
        
        It worked for the Kenyan interloper.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        History and economics according to Shrike: Obama waved his magic wand and shrieked 'BEGONE BUSHPIG' and all was well in the kingdom.
  2. Jordan 12 years ago
    
    HAHAHAHAHA. Beyond parody.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

I think we've pretty much eliminated the need to worry about political refugees clamoring to get into the country.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

God forbid we actually PAY our public servants. How horrible

Fuck you, you parasite.
1. Hyperion 12 years ago
  
  WTF? Pay our... oh wait, I was thinking about my private servants... never mind.
2. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  Smooches to you. I'm paid very fairly. I have no complaints.
  
  Aint no parasite, though. I work hard for my money and do a damn good job, thx.
  
  But thanks for your concern. I realize in your fantasyworld public servants would do their jobs without any expectation of pay, but here in the real world, we have families to feed etc.
  
  If helping people, taking reports, busting perps, saving lives, impressing soccer moms, etc. makes me a parasite, then I guess that's what I am . Thanks again for your "concern".
  
  Those of us in the law enforcement community continue to offer you our service whether or not you graciously accept it.
  
  Cheers
Hyperion 12 years ago

Kid is only 19. I'm not sure how he's ever going to see freedom again after something like this. But at that age, you feel immortal, so I am sure that's why he surrendered.
1. tarran 12 years ago
  
  They will execute him on federal charges. He likely will never see the inside of a state courtroom.
  1. Hyperion 12 years ago
    
    So you are saying that this is where the POTUS, even though he said he would not, disappears and executes an American without trial?
    1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
      
      He did say "state" courtroom.
      1. Hyperion 12 years ago
        
        He also said they will execute him on federal charges.
        
        State courtroom aside, that is my question.
        
        Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
        
        You can have a trial, and be executed on federal charges, and never see the inside of a state courtroom.
        
        tarran 12 years ago
        
        Auric, you've got it. Federal prosecution, by the lady that fucked up the prosecution of that MIT guy and tried to steal that hotel in western mass.
        
        She has just been handed her rehabilitation on a platter.
2. Nazdrakke 12 years ago
  
  Recent events seem to indicate that a bombing and fatal shoot-out with police can also lead to an Ivy League teaching position.
  1. hotsy totsy 12 years ago
    
    ^^^
    Yup!
    
    Either he is executed, is sentenced to life with no parole, or serves ten years and becomes a university professor when he gets out.
3. Bam! 12 years ago
  
  Bill O'Reilly promised me that they'll execute him.
Auric Demonocles 12 years ago

Slumbrew, butts Wagner, and anyone else:

Celebrating in Davis?
John Galt 12 years ago

I'm speculating even if Tsarnaev has been taken alive we may never know the full extent of David Axelrod's involvement in planning the bombings.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

I realize in your fantasyworld public servants would do their jobs without any expectation of pay, but here in the real world, we have families to feed etc.

Fuck you, cunt.

I have worked salaried jobs where the workload varied from forty hours to eighty hours a week. We had shit to do and a deadline, and we worked until the job was finished. Spare me your pathetic whiny bullshit about your long difficult strenuous days.

siuya
1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  wow. It must suck to live your life infected with such bigotry and hate.
  
  I'm paid fairly I've got no complaint. I never said I had long difficult strenuous days. That's your strawman. I have rather pleasant 8 hr shifts, but thanks for your concern.
  
  Again, we are here to help
  1. Suthenboy 12 years ago
    
    We are here to help? Heh.
    
    I cant resist pointing out that Reagan said there is nothing scarier than a government official saying that.
    1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
      
      I know. That's who I was referencing with that comment. "I'm from the govt. and I'm here to help"
      
      I seriously feel sympathy for people like P Brooks. I think it's sad that he has to live with such hatred infecting his life but it is as it is.
    2. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
      
      Yeah, I'd rather they didn't help. We are already responsible for our own self-defense, so unless we're talking about busting kids for smoking pot, cops don't do that much.
      
      Oh, I forgot, they give us the forms that allow us to collect on insurance when our shit is stolen. Seems that could be done with a private company pretty easily.
      1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Everybody is ultimately responsible first and foremost for their defense, but I personally have saved people from imminent harm and in progress assaults (like the woman being beaten with a baseball bat), so I know the reality is that we are often the protectors and I take great pride in being able to protect and/or rescue people from physical harm. It's one of the more rewarding aspects of the job.
        
        LTC(ret) John 12 years ago
        
        Next to the extreme modesty you show?
        
        Good God you are self congratulatory.
Suthenboy 12 years ago

Yeah, yeah, bomber smomber.

I havent heard much yet about the fact that one kid with a gun and a bomb completely shut down a major american city. All of the unarmed citizens hiding behind locked doors and quivering under their beds, helpless. Stupid spineless fucks.

Ok, in fairness, I just got in and didnt have time to read the thread yet. Maybe y'all already covered this.

Anyone familiar with that area think that this could cause a turning point for gun control there?
1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
  
  Doubt it.
  
  Personally I'm pissed I don't have my shotgun here, because they erected so many hassles that it wasn't worth the effort to bring it down here. I seem to be in the far minority here.
  1. Suthenboy 12 years ago
    
    Call me radical, but I bring my gun or I dont go.
    1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
      
      I'm from Vermont.... Anywhere else is going to be tyrannical in comparison with regards to guns.
      1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Vermont's and New Hampshire's gun laws match up quite nicely I see.
        
        Which is why, of course, Northern New England resembles the dystopian wasteland of Mad Max's Thunderdrome, where the living envy the dead and children spend the night huddling in fear of being apprehended by the roving rape gangs.
        
        Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
        
        Dude, where I grew up, there were guns everywhere. My parents literally had over a dozen guns in the living room. It's like a liberal's worst nightmare.
        
        Yet for some reason I never worried about crime, everyone left their doors unlocked all the time (I think I was 17 before I found out we even had a house key), and no one ever shot anyone else.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        I remember when I was in high school, and this in Southern N.H., that students, who had trucks would have gun racks in them! And sometimes those racks would have a gun in them!
        
        Those were the days of giants, my friend.
        
        General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        I'm from southwestern pa and my dad used to tell me that when he was in high school guys would bring their hunting rifles to wood shop to work on the furniture during class.
        
        Then he'd say, "I feel sorry for you kids."
      2. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        Hey goldie, I've been trying to convince the GF that vermont is a cool place to move too, but she insists that it's filled with yuppy skiers from NYC.
        
        Is this true?
        
        Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
        
        Avoid Stowe and you'll avoid them.
        
        There are a lot of skiers in Burlington, but they're more hippie than yuppy. Also, Burlington actually has a little bit of stuff going on and you might be able to get a job near it.
        
        What do you do for fun and work, and what type of place are you looking for?
        
        General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        We like to hike, bike, camp and generally be as far away from people as possible. We'd like to buy some land in the middle of nowhere and put a trailer on it until we can afford a house.
        
        She's an engineer now and I'll (hopefully) be a chemist here in couple of months.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        If you're looking to homestead. I've been looking at some parcels of unimproved land in Jefferson, NH that are running in the low 5 digits. I could post some links if you'd like.
        
        General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        Yeah, that'd be nice.
        
        We won't be moving for a while (a year) as we have a shitload of stuff to get in order, but I'd like to see what's out there for the money.
        
        I'd totally be a freestater, and go to porcfest every year.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        I've found some good candidates on landandfarm.com.
        
        Good luck to you and maybe we'll be neighbors!
        
        General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        Bookmarked.
        
        Oh man, that is awesome. Those are some beautiful spreads.
        
        Thanks for the link.
        
        Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
        
        Based on that description I would say Burlington-St Albans area. Depending on what type of engineer she is, a bit outside of St Albans might be perfect for you guys (assuming you are interested in working in pharmaceutical chemistry).
        
        General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        Thanks for the info. Yeah, we know how we want to live, but the where and how to do it are up in the air right now. I'm looking at everything, and Vermont (or NH) seemed like places to consider.
        
        ...assuming you are interested in working in pharmaceutical chemistry..
        
        They call me Heisenberg.
    2. An0nB0t 12 years ago
      
      +1
      
      My gathering of guns follows me wherever I. Civil shopkeeping laws are inconvenient, but easily manageable.
    3. mad libertarian guy 12 years ago
      
      Call me radical, but I bring my gun or I dont go.
      
      This. Except make it 'guns.'
2. Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
  
  There will be no "turning point" in gun control.
  
  The free flow of gun trade will continue unabated.
  
  Viva Fast and Furious!
  1. Hyperion 12 years ago
    
    The free flow of gun trade will continue unabated
    
    And?
    1. db 12 years ago
      
      This should be a positive to our favorite intestinal blockage. He's "pro-gun," remember?
      1. Hyperion 12 years ago
        
        He's pro having his buried up Obamas arse.
      2. Suthenboy 12 years ago
        
        Yeah, that is a riot. And he didnt claim the slimy shitweasel is just pro-gun, but that he is "ardently pro-2ndA".
        
        And I am a flying reindeer.
        
        Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
        
        Again, Obama signed two bills EXPANDING carry laws.
        
        His record is much better than Reagan's was. Ronnie actually banned plastic guns - why the FUCK DOES IT MATTER WHAT MATERIAL GUNS ARE MADE OF?????
        
        Get down, bitch!
        
        Jordan 12 years ago
        
        Once again, you're full of shit. The amendment allowing concealed carry in national parks was added to the stupid credit card bill that Obama was going to sign anyway. After his administration refused to appeal the court decision blocking concealed carry in national parks.
        
        And then he proceeded to spend months lobbying for the strictest gun control bills since the 1994 AWB.
        
        Jordan 12 years ago
        
        Oh, and nobody said shit about Reagan. Fucking logic, how does it work?
        
        Suthenboy 12 years ago
        
        You truly are hilarious. If I had the time I could spend a day posting his words and actions, and those of his acolytes, showing how pathologically anti-gun they are.
        
        He signed a couple of bills with pro-gun riders on them to get shit he wanted to get. Reluctantly agreeing to something you dont want to get something you really really want is not the same as being pro.
        
        What I will give him is an award for being the greatest gun salesman in history. He earned that fair and square.
        
        And you, Shreeky, deserve an award as the worst liar on these boards. Considering that Tony posts here, that is really saying something.
        
        Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
        
        Liar.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Well, he got you guys! Who cares about the facts you gave him? How can anyone possibly hope to stand up against this sterling argument?
        
        Sevo 12 years ago
        
        Palin's Buttplug| 4.19.13 @ 9:47PM |#
        "Again, Obama signed two bills EXPANDING carry laws."
        
        Uh, you can pick dipshit's pocket right now; he's far too dizzy to even notice.
  2. Sevo 12 years ago
    
    Palin's Buttplug| 4.19.13 @ 9:17PM |#
    "The free flow of gun trade will continue unabated.
    
    Viva Fast and Furious!"
    
    I'm quite sure you're stupid enough to not see the false equivalence there. You've proven to be far more stupid than that in the past.
3. SweatingGin 12 years ago
  
  I know nothing of the people of the area, but I'm doubtful. Seemed like this was an exercise in rolling over and letting people come in and search your house. Scares the crap out of me to think of what I would or wouldn't do if it was me.
  
  So far I've seen plenty of state fellating. "Look! Mention this the next time someone complains about paying taxes!"
  1. Episiarch 12 years ago
    
    Fuck that shit, nobody is searching my house without a warrant.
    
    Like anywhere, Mass has pussy statist fucks, and it has people who actually give a shit about liberty. And, like most places, the former vastly outnumber the latter.
    
    Though all this shutting shit down was wacky.
    1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
      
      So I live about 3 miles from this boat. And I work about 17 miles from it. By 3 PM I was the only person in my 10 person department that was still at work....
      
      The next closest person lives about 6 miles from Watertown, then it's 12+.
4. Sevo 12 years ago
  
  "Anyone familiar with that area think that this could cause a turning point for gun control there?"
  
  Uh, the local populace is gathering on the sidewalks, applauding the fully-armored cops who are doing victory laps in their APCs, waving Old Glory.
  (OK, I made up the last part).
  It's a celebration of how wonderful the LEOs are without (so far) any question as to why they gave up their most effective weapon by demanding everybody stay inside.
  So, no. Not one single chance.
  1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
    
    I understand the celebrations, I'm about to do it myself. But I'm not doing it for the cops who took 18 hours and giving up to catch the guy. I'm doing it for the fact that the guy is off the street and they'll stop shutting shit down now.
    1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
      
      Contrarily, if interviews etc are any evidence, lots of sensible boston citizens ARE doing it for the cops, and thanking them for a job well done. I will do the same this evening - down a cold one and give a thanks to the boston area LEO's for a job well done.
      1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
        
        I explicitly said that I am not doing it for the cops. We already know that I'm not into sucking government dick like you are, let alone the general public.
  2. mad libertarian guy 12 years ago
    
    They have nothing to celebrate. They should be hanging their heads in shame.
    
    They let one (1) 19 year old kid elude them for a full day, while shutting down the entire fucking city. One fucking kid.
    1. Some call me Tim? 12 years ago
      
      #BostonStrong needs to be replaced with #BostonPussies
5. Rhywun 12 years ago
  
  The kid had bombs. I don't see this going down much different in another state.
db 12 years ago

Glad they caught him instead of killing him.
1. Stormy Dragon 12 years ago
  
  Well it was a university cop. Glorified security guards don't rate the full Dorner package.
db 12 years ago

I love the point made earlier that it took "allowing" people to walk out of their goddamned homes to find this guy.
Eduard van Haalen 12 years ago

Other good news today:

"A family-run business in Pennsylvania is the latest to beat the Obama administration's HHS mandate in court."

District court in Western Penn finds that the business is likely to win its case based on the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act. So there's a preliminary injunction to protect the business from the regulation.

http://bit.ly/14Cidsu

The court's opinion, saying that there isn't a compelling interest in the regulation due to being as full of exceptions as a swiss cheese is full of holes, and anyway it's not (as required) the least restrictive means of accomplishing its objective:

http://www.adfmedia.org/files/.....gsFact.pdf
Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago

I think the rhetoric is getting a bit thick about the "entire city being shut" down. Anybody here in Boston? Were the streets empty of traffic, businesses all shut down? I mean, cmon. Some people self-confined to their houses, but I think it's a bit overboard with this "shut down the entire city" crap.

Regardless, he's in custody. Life is good.
1. Stormy Dragon 12 years ago
  
  http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/.....?hpt=hp_t2
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    Pretty compelling. Spanx
  2. benji 12 years ago
    
    Ceasar McDowell, an urban studies professor at MIT, says he went for a walk Friday on Massachusetts Avenue in Cambridge, only to find everything closed except for a CVS drugstore and a Dunkin' Donuts. "I don't know how to describe it," said McDowell, a CNN iReporter. "(I)t was eerie that quietness."
    
    overboard thick rhetoric!
    1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
      
      Was he ARRESTED for violating the "lock-down"?
      1. benji 12 years ago
        
        And if he had refused to answer the police's questions about who he was and why he was out walking the city streets what would have happened?
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        I'm sure massive beatdowns and civil rights violations of course!
    2. An0nB0t 12 years ago
      
      urban studies professor
      
      Is this a euphemism for AA studies, or has hyper-PC edumacation left me behind eating its dust?
      1. benji 12 years ago
        
        It just means they study cities and stuff that happens in cities or people who live in cities.
      2. Greg 12 years ago
        
        I suppose he might have been an "urban planning" professor and the paper wrote it up wrong.
2. benji 12 years ago
  
  http://www.buzzfeed.com/annano.....n-lockdown
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    I stand corrected. It looks pretty empty. Although I haven't heard (did it happen) anybody being aarrested for violating the lockdown
    1. Some call me Tim? 12 years ago
      
      It wasn't martial law. It was "voluntary," and the city voluntarily acted like pussies.
3. Sevo 12 years ago
  
  "Some people self-confined to their houses,"
  
  Pretty sure this is similar to people 'voluntarily' paying taxes.
  Dunphy, the news said the cops called a "lock-down". Are you saying anyone could simply ignore that without penalty?
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    I've seen several reports of people walking around reporting on how empty the streets were.
    
    I am aware they called for a lock-down. The question for me is what happened to the people that ignored it, like in the above mentioned incident.
    
    Were they left alone or were they arrested?
    
    I haven't heard any reports of people being arrested for violating the "lock-down" but I'm perfectly willing to say I stand corrected if that's the case.
    
    Otherwise, it WAS a suggestion, if there was no penalty for violating it.
    1. Sevo 12 years ago
      
      "I am aware they called for a lock-down. The question for me is what happened to the people that ignored it, like in the above mentioned incident."
      
      So if the cops declare a lock down, I can ignore it without penalty?
      1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        That;s the question I'm asking. As reports have shown, plenty of people DID ignore the "lock-down"
        
        I have not heard a single report of an arrest pursuant to such actions, which leads me to suspect that people were not arrested for violating it.
        
        GIVEN that, it seems like more of a suggestion. I am perfectly willing to stand corrected, if somebody can show me a report of somebody being arrested for violating this "lock-down"
        
        Sevo 12 years ago
        
        "GIVEN that, it seems like more of a suggestion. I am perfectly willing to stand corrected, if somebody can show me a report of somebody being arrested for violating this "lock-down""
        
        So threats from cops aren't sufficient? I got to be thrown in the slammer before you think I've got problems?
        Fuck you.
        
        tarran 12 years ago
        
        In my case I stayed indoors not because I was scared of the guy (I doubted he'd climb the hill to my house on foot and if he got a car he'd be long gone), but because I was worried about the spray and pray gunfire that the Massachusetts cops tend to lay down.
        
        Sevo 12 years ago
        
        "I was worried about the spray and pray gunfire that the Massachusetts cops tend to lay down."
        
        And if you had been killed, the poor LEO would have had to deal with the psychological effects! On Paid Leave!
        Poor, poor, cop.
        Oh, did you have some problems?
    2. An0nB0t 12 years ago
      
      Were they left alone or were they arrested?
      
      Reality is not binary. I'm sure you know that police have plenty of ways to intimidate people beyond arresting them.
4. Suthenboy 12 years ago
  
  " Were the streets empty of traffic, businesses all shut down? "
  
  Yes.
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    Except the reports I just read said SOME businesses were open and SOME people were walking around.
    
    They were certainly more empty than normal, but it was not an across the board lockdown because there were people walking around (not being arrested as far as I have heard) and some businesses remained opened, as the links provided to me explained.
    
    Regardless, it's over.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

I only hate despicable scum like you.

hth
1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  Seriously, I have a lot of pity for you and your mental state. Nothing but empathy from my corner, my man. I hope you get better one day.
  1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
    
    Well, empathy for the victims who happened to be cops.
    1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
      
      Them, too. But I deal with mentally ill all the time. Part of the job. Went to grad school for counseling psychology, too. I have a lot of empathy for people who suffer from mental illness e.g. P Brooks. His hatred and bigotry are clearly infecting his mind. That's sad. It's like he's a frothing cauldron of hate. That's sad.
Eduard van Haalen 12 years ago

Laura Mitchell ?@ljmabouttown 8h

THIS. "This week is so bad that an Elvis-impersonating conspiracy theorist sent poison to Obama and THAT'S LIKE THE TENTH BIGGEST STORY."
1. Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
  
  Funny.
Eduard van Haalen 12 years ago

Kathryn Jean Lopez ?@kathrynlopez

We can now resume wall-to-wall Gosnell trial coverage.
1. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
  
  It ain't easy being green...
  
  /dead baby
Stilgar 12 years ago

from cnn:

FBI agents interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev - the 26-year-old Boston Marathon bombing suspect killed following a gunfight with authorities overnight - in 2011 at the request of foreign government, an FBI official said Friday. The other government - who the official would not name - suspected that Tsarnaev may have ties to extremist groups. The FBI investigated, including interviewing Tsarnaev, but the matter was closed after no derogatory information was found, according to the official.

So...now that they captured the guy who gets to play Jack Ruby?
1. Calidissident 12 years ago
  
  I'm guessing the other government was Russia?
2. Sevo 12 years ago
  
  "FBI agents interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev"
  
  Fox was flogging this earlier with sinister comments about how 'he was on the radar' and how the US investigators missing something! (hint hint).
  So my questions are: Was he investigated for a parking ticket? Or what?
  1. Stilgar 12 years ago
    
    Doesn't matter. If the kid dies now that he is in custody there will be conspiracies theories forever... well more than there aleady are..
    1. Eduard van Haalen 12 years ago
      
      "conspiracies theories forever"
      
      Like the Beatles song?
  2. Nazdrakke 12 years ago
    
    I've read that he and/or his bro were looked into by the fibbies but no action was taken. FWIW
Zakalwe 12 years ago

Hey, Carmen Ortiz is on TV.
1. Eduard van Haalen 12 years ago
  
  Better than Ortiz:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSR6ZzjDZ94
SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago

"But thanks for your concern. I realize in your fantasyworld public servants would do their jobs without any expectation of pay, but here in the real world, we have families to feed etc."

Fuck you and your brownshirt colleagues. Try going without pussy for 10 months and the only people in sight are big, hurley men.

Yet Dunphy thinks he is an authority on who is and who isn't a libertarian.
1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  Can I get an English translation of this mess plz?
  
  tia.
  1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
    
    Salty wants to start a pissing match with you about who's manlier, cops or merchant mariners?
    1. Eduard van Haalen 12 years ago
      
      What about firefighters and construction workers?
      1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        No one is manlier than those who live at the outpost.
    2. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
      
      We are unknown to 3/4ths of the population, yet we impact almost every sector of the economy. Not saying that's heroic, but at least we're not uniformed thugs.
      1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        I have a friend in Thailand who is a retired M.M. I have great respect for the profession, and I know for a fact that you've had more women than the Dunph has ever seen with his own eyes.
        
        Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Doubtful. Little sister chairmen in my fraternity, captain of the college surf team, etc.
        
        I got more bean than Juan Valdez
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Didn't anyone tell you that real gangsta-ass niggas don't flex nuts, because real gangsta-ass niggas know they got 'em?
        
        Trust me, the dude had a village of women at every port. Sri Lanka was a favorite of his.
        
        Francisco d Anconia 12 years ago
        
        Goddamn, you are fucking full of yourself. How many times have you bragged in this single thread? Do you have a small dick?
        
        Shut the fuck up! I don't care how many medals you have. I don't care if you were a lifeguard. I don't care that you run marathons.
        
        You are a self centered, megalomaniacal asshole. GUYS LIKE YOU, give cops a bad name. You are making the point of everyone who gives you shit. A real hero would be humble. People here think cops feel they are above the average citizen. YOU give them no reason to believe otherwise.
        
        Real men have no problem with having a little dick Dunphy.
        
        General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        I think I might actually believe this as a lot of girls with self-esteem issues fall for dishonest, self-aggrandizing braggarts.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Doubtful. Little sister chairmen in my fraternity, captain of the college surf team, etc.
        
        I got more bean than Juan Valdez
        
        At first I was going to say you're acting like a total tool, but then I learned various facts about your fraternity, which gained my grudging respect, and when you followed that up with the fact that you were captain of the college surf team, I began to nod my head slowly in acquiescence.
        
        Add some random words in all caps and some crazy ass cop shorthand, and I am all in.
        
        SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
        
        I'm surprised (if he's a Thai Mariner) that he lived long enough to see retirement! 😛 Southeast Asia is absolutely insane ( http://gcaptain.com/bulk-carri.....singapore/ )
        
        "I know for a fact that you've had more women than the Dunph has ever seen with his own eyes."
        
        I won't contest this.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        He's a Brit. After retirement, he settled down to teach English in Thailand. He then ended up marrying a Thai girl and now lives out in the middle of nowhere his wife's home village. He does fuck all except to bask in the sun and drink. It's a great life.
        
        Sevo 12 years ago
        
        Are you on a ship?
        http://www.marinetraffic.com/a.....level0=100
        
        General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        The thing is, if you aren't hideous and totally socially inept it's not really that hard to get laid if your a young guy. The fact that some guys brag about having sex like it's some sort of impossible feat make me question their honesty.
        
        What I look at is what kind of woman a man ends up with. That says more about him than any number of one night encounters ever will.
        
        Not to mention it's the internet and people lie, even though it's a stupid thing to lie about. Because getting laid a lot when you're a young guy is A. not that difficult(like I've said) and B. doesn't mean you're a better person. Hell, you could be a manipulative piece of shit that uses emotional blackmail and lies to have sex with a lot of women.
        
        SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
        
        @General Butt Naked,
        
        Hey, have you looked into those academies?
        
        Get in while ya can, lol. I know for a fact that at least 75 GoM ships are slated to be launched this summer/year. The boom has just begun.
        
        General Butt Naked 12 years ago
        
        I'm still waiting for my graduation to be approved. I could be done this summer, or next JAN depending if I have all my humanities courses fulfilled, aaaand...
        
        I need to have a discussion with someone...
        
        SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
        
        You probably won't have to worry about general ed credits. Its possible to have it all done in two years if you devote two summers for your sea terms.
        
        Good luck to whatever you decide to do.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        That video was crazy. Do you know the flag of the larger ship? The smaller one is Vietnamese, obviously.
        
        SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
        
        I can tell you with assurance that it isn't American flagged (there is no such thing as American cargo ships anymore).
        
        To be honest, I'm not familiar with the blue water (cargo) industry. I did all my sea terms on mud boats in the GoM and currently work in the GoM.
        
        However (Thanks sevo for the link)the larger, bulk carrier is flagged under the Marshall Islands. http://www.marinetraffic.com/a.....=538004295
Bam! 12 years ago

Oh boy, Big Ears will speak tonight.
Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago

Props to the LEO's in Boston. One dead, one in custody, and a city can sleep securely. Good job!
SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago

Try this again.....

"But thanks for your concern. I realize in your fantasyworld public servants would do their jobs without any expectation of pay, but here in the real world, we have families to feed etc."

Fuck you and your brownshirt colleagues. Try going without pussy for 10 months and the only people in sight are big, hurley men.

Yet Dunphy thinks he is an authority on who is and who isn't a libertarian.
Caleb Turberville 12 years ago

Is Obama is to speak, I immediately want to know what he thinks of the FBI denying the suspect his Miranda warning?
1. Bam! 12 years ago
  
  PUBLIC SAFETY!
  1. Caleb Turberville 12 years ago
    
    Of course, Obama is just going to come out with his usual safe, cautious platitude-athon, but he absolutely has to explain why the FBI (an agency under his leadership) is conducting the investigation in this fashion.
2. Caleb Turberville 12 years ago
  
  Of course, I'm following CNN, which hasn't exactly been the most trustworthy news source this week, but I'm definitely hearing that the FBI is citing a "public safety" exclusion to Miranda and are questioning him without warning.
3. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
  
  I guess he's on THE MATRIX!
4. Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
  
  If he isn't treated like the citizen he is the terrorist really have won.
SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago

Holy fucking shit! The DoJ goon essentially just said "his rights? Miranda rights? Fuck that"!
1. Suthenboy 12 years ago
  
  Had a case like that here years ago. A guy murdered an entire family and then led the cops on a long merry chase across three parishes.
  
  When they caught him they grilled him for 2 days and denied him a lawyer despite his repeated requests. He decided to confess. Of course he ended up with a conviction.
  
  After the emotional furor died down, he appealed.
  
  Hooray Cops! Psychopathic killer goes free!
2. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
  
  Keep in mind that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is an American citizen.
  
  It's a banner day Reason. We are about to witness TEAM Blue and TEAM Red join hands in an act of bipartisanship and unity and say:
  
  CITIZEN? FUCK. YOUR. RIGHTS!
  1. Rhywun 12 years ago
    
    I thought he was here for like 10 years. How can he be a citizen?
    1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
      
      His brother (who is now dead) was the one nationalized last year. The guy in custody has been here since his 8th birthday.
      1. Rhywun 12 years ago
        
        So? I fail to see how that makes him a citizen. I only ask because my ex was here for like a dozen years and is more American than most Americans I know, but after that got couldn't even get a freakin' Visa to save his ass.
    2. Generic Stranger 12 years ago
      
      Having lawyers in the family helps.
    3. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
      
      According to legacy media sources he became a naturalized citizen on, and I shit you not, September 11th, 2012.
      1. Irish 12 years ago
        
        Alex Jones' head just exploded.
      2. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        He was also named after a guy who killed 5% of the world's population, at the time.
        
        What did they think he was going to grow up to do? Grow orchids?
        
        Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
        
        What did they think he was going to grow up to do?
        
        Offer the world order?
  2. Ted S. 12 years ago
    
    This. I posted the story about Dunkin' Donuts staying open on a football forum I'm a member of, and the level of sneering, name-calling State-fellating was astonishing.
Bam! 12 years ago

Obama's hair looks like it's really going grey.
1. Rhywun 12 years ago
  
  My first thought too.
Anonymous Coward 12 years ago

The Campaigner-in-Chief is about to waste valuable airtime.

Federal, state, and local officials. Brave public officials, blah, blah, blah. The "terrorist" was found by somebody who walked of their house, noticed that boats don't bleed, and called the cops.
1. Caleb Turberville 12 years ago
  
  So, keeping everybody inside was detrimental to the investigation. I also want the mayor of Boston and governor to explain the "lockdown" of the Greater Boston area for a single, teenage individual.
  1. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
    
    Official Explanation translated:
    
    Fuck you, peasant. Terrorism. Constitution is not a suicide pact.
2. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
  
  I noticed he failed to get even the amount of education athletes get in public speaking.
  
  When you lose, you use the word "I". When you win, you use the word "we".
  
  when this happened I dedicated all the federal resources to solve this problem
  
  What a cunt.
3. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
  
  Don't throw ice water on Dunphy's PUBLIK SERVANT BONER!
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    yea, god forbid we give the cops props for identifying the two suspects and hunting them down.
    1. Rhywun 12 years ago
      
      You mean the same suspects that random internet folks pointed out in pictures later that day?
Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago

How do they know nobody else was involved, and is at large or in the Bahamas by now?
1. Suthenboy 12 years ago
  
  How do we know? We dont. I will be very surprised if these two fuck nuggets were the only people involved.
  
  They found four bombs, right? In the photos of the kids walking around with bags it doesnt look like they have 4 pressure cookers in the bags. Or two for that matter.
  1. Rhywun 12 years ago
    
    I'm expecting they weren't alone. Which is why I'm glad they caught him alive.
  2. Rhywun 12 years ago
    
    I'm expecting they weren't alone. Which is why I'm glad they caught him alive.
  3. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
    
    The police have said they did not find any bombs besides the 2 that went off.
    1. Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
      
      Well besides the ones they threw out of their getaway vehicle.
      1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
        
        Those are probably not pressure cookers.
Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago

Fwiw, I've read a lot of case law on Miranda-less custodial interrogation, and it's a rather high burden to overcome. Essentially, it's acceptable if there is substantial danger of live devices etc.

An example. Local cop chases dude with a gun. By the time he catches up to him, the kid has dumped the gun. Does he have to mirandize him before he asks where the gun is? Answer: NO. (I'll get into the why's if anybody cares, but that's the classic scenario)

It's a pretty ballsy move though if they are denying Miranda. Not sure what evidence they have and what facts and circ's, so I can't say if it's justified, but I'll just say it's a high burden to overcome, so they better have their ducks in order
1. Caleb Turberville 12 years ago
  
  Fair enough, but let's hold some people's feet to the fire and get a full explanation as soon as possible.
2. Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
  
  If that is how the exception is spelled out then it will probably work. They've been dropping explosives around for almost 24 hours now. I disagree with the exception being that broad though.
  
  Still stupid though. Why risk it at all?
  1. Suthenboy 12 years ago
    
    A cop told me today that he thinks this was an obama operation performed by navy seals to change peoples attitudes about guns. He never explained how it was supposed to work.
    
    With raised eyebrows I asked " That teenager is a navy seal?".
    
    He suggested that I go back and look at the photos of th guys on the street and notice their hats. Navy seal hats.
    
    Ooooooook. I never would have thought of that. Cops are geniuses.
  2. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    Yea,. the gun one is because it is viewed as an imminent risk (guy drops it in a yard while he's running from the cops and little kid picks it up and shoots self, etc. That kind of shit)
    
    I can say in my entire career, my best interrogation ever (Arson case) was done w/o Miranda, BUT it was not a CUSTODIAL interrogation, it was merely an interrogation, so miranda didn't apply. Shit held up, guy got like convicted and all I had was a hunch initially. It was awesome. I studied a lot of case law before doing the Miranda-less interrogation though. I MADE SURE it was noncustodial.
    
    In this case, it's CUSTODIAL and INTERROGATION, so it's gotta be one of those case law exceptions like with the live devices. I'm CERTAIN the order came down from an AUSA. FBI doesn't make these decisions on their own. They do what the US ATTorney recommends.
    1. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
      
      I MADE SURE it was noncustodial.
      
      Did you forget to tell him that he was free to leave at any time?
      1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Fuck no. He had food and drink, he was by the open door, I told him he was free to leave, and I interrogated him in the city hall, not the police station.
        
        The whole thing held up. It took about 1 hr to get a confession. I used a lot of psychology, catholic guilt stuff, etc. It was pretty awesome. Cleared several arsons and the homeowners association practically adopted me as their hero.
    2. Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
      
      I'd prefer a clear and imminent danger standard. Which is far stricter than what is posted below as Obama's stance.
3. SweatingGin 12 years ago
  
  Seems like they couldn't taint all the evidence.
  
  If they did, they can just send him to gitmo.
Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago

Obama's speech writers are getting even worse. That was an utter waste of time even by his standards.
1. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
  
  You know what's funny, I didn't even know that Dear Leader speechified.
  
  I thought all the comments about it were satire on what Dear Leader would be expected to say.
  
  Dang.
Caleb Turberville 12 years ago

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03.....html?_r=1&

Background on a 2010 Obama administration memo detailing the "public safety" exception to Miranda warnings.
1. Caleb Turberville 12 years ago
  
  A three-page F.B.I. memorandum, dated Oct. 21, 2010, also encouraged agents to use a broad interpretation of public safety-related questions. It said that the "magnitude and complexity" of the terrorist threat justified "a significantly more extensive public safety interrogation without Miranda warnings than would be permissible in an ordinary criminal case."
  
  "Depending on the facts, such interrogation might include, for example, questions about possible impending or coordinated terrorist attacks; the location, nature and threat posed by weapons that might post an imminent danger to the public; and the identities, locations, and activities or intentions of accomplices who may be plotting additional imminent attacks," the memo said.
  1. Nazdrakke 12 years ago
    
    Sooo.. Constitutional rights apply, except whenever they decide they don't?
    1. Bam! 12 years ago
      
      Actually, that pretty much sums up Obama's attitude towards the Constitution.
      1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Miranda warnings are nowhere mentioned in the constitution, Nazdrakke. They are based on case law.
        
        Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
        
        I think it is a reasonable interpretation of the 5th.
        
        Caleb Turberville 12 years ago
        
        Yes, but how secure is the suspect's Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination if the authorities are refusing counsel until he answers questions regarding their "public safety" concerns?
        
        Zakalwe 12 years ago
        
        Do you REALLY think they need a confession to convict him? All a Miranda violation would do is get that thrown out, so I expect they wouldn't use it if they had it. They do have a reason to look for additional bomb material or accomplices, though.
        
        He'll plea or get convicted based on the massive physical and eye witness evidence. The Miranda stuff is a non issue from a practical standpoint.
        
        SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
        
        The fact that he wasn't read his miranda rights is enough for his attorney to ask for the charges to be dismissed. (Assuming he gets his day in U.S court)
        
        Zakalwe 12 years ago
        
        It's only enough to grant it if he can't be convicted without the testimony collected via the lapse. Not going to happen here.
        
        JurisCani 12 years ago
        
        Um, no. Leaving aside the "public safety" exception, the remedy for a failure to advise a suspect of his rights to counsel and to remain silent (Miranda) prior to custodial interrogation would only result in the statement so obtained being ruled inadmissible against the suspect in a criminal proceeding. Normally any evidence derived as a result of that violation would also be inadmissible (Wong Sun) though that protection has been watered down (Patane) if the "confession" is voluntary. Patane is a horrible decision, IMHO.
        
        Sevo 12 years ago
        
        Dunphy (the real one)| 4.19.13 @ 10:30PM |#
        "Miranda warnings are nowhere mentioned in the constitution, Nazdrakke. They are based on case law."
        
        Fail.
        The Constitution does not grant rights; it limits the government.
        
        Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
        
        The Constitution does not grant rights; it limits the government.
        
        The Constitution empowers the federal govt actually, and then pulls back some of those powers. The power to detain and question this thug is already there in Article I Section 8. The fifth amendment pulls back on that power a bit (with Miranda being an unwritten pragmatic "enforcement mechanism" for the 5th amendment rights).
  2. SweatingGin 12 years ago
    
    Just another terrible thing Bush made Him do.
    
    I've been looking forward to my lefty friends getting going on that, but it probably isn't going to happen. They're cheering police state louder than anyone.
    1. Sevo 12 years ago
      
      "Just another terrible thing Bush made Him do."
      
      I see what you did there.
2. Jerry on the boat 12 years ago
  
  50% chance they would have gunned down the suspect anyways, so what's the point of him talking afterwards?
Knutsack 12 years ago

I hate cops that abuse their power, and those that just plain do illegal shit as much as anyone here, but I was truly sad when I saw the picture of that MIT police officer that was killed. He looked like a baby-faced kid.

All around, this was just sad on every single level from everyone hurt and killed to the ridiculous media to the sure loss of civil liberties we're about to suffer following this.

Sad, sad, sad.
1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
  
  I know several cops that had previous, successful careers but always wanted to be a highway or state trooper. Coincidentally, they are the most humble and critical of all their colleagues.
  
  Then there's Dunphy. He was in a frat, ya know?
  1. Knutsack 12 years ago
    
    Dunphy. Well, he's just Dunphy, and he goes with the territory around here.
  2. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    Actually, I wanted to be a rock star when I was in college. But I figured the chances of a SUCCESSFUL career at same were rather small. I wanted more job security.
    1. Irish 12 years ago
      
      You'll always be a rock star to me, Dunphy. I hear you were captain of your college surf team.
    2. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
      
      "I wanted more job security."
      
      And there's no better self-proclaimed authority on libertarianism than a government worker that belongs to a union. I remember you saying that Rand wasn't libertarian enough to your liking, right?
Zakalwe 12 years ago

Guys, the lack of a Miranda warning really isn't as important as you think. They don't need a confession to convict this guy 20 times over. They do need him to talk to find out if he has other devices hidden that pose a risk to public safety, or if he had accomplices.

They won't be able to use non-Miranda testimony against him, and he can decide not to talk without the warning. Until they disappear him for some extra persuasion I can't get too worked up about it.
1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  Actually, if an exception applies, they CAN use nonmiranda testimony against him.
  
  That's case law.
  
  IF the exception doesn't apply, then the testimony could only be used to impeach/rebut and.or for sentencing purposes.
2. Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
  
  I agree it's not going to affect convicting him but it is the principle of the matter. It would be a nice place to stand up for our rights kind of like defending the rights of Illinois Nazis.
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    Don't forget that the principle is based on case law in the first place. Miranda warnings aren't in the constitution. THey are based on SCOTUS case law. So, obviously, the same body (SCOTUS) can recognize times when they are not required.
    1. Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
      
      Yep. The Miranda requirement is a pragmatic measure to protect an actual constitutional guarantee (the right to not be compelled to self-incriminate). Just like the exclusionary rule itself (also nowhere in the constitution) is a pragmatic protection of the freedom from unreasonable searches. When it doesn't make sense for that purpose it can be ignored.
  2. Ruckus 12 years ago
    
    I agree with this.
    
    The stance I was taking at work this morning about how I hope he was apprehended alive so he could be afforded due process and stand trial for his actions. People didn't necessarily disagree with me, they just didn't seem to concerned if some vigilantism took place first (either by LEO or non-LEO), citing the nature of hit actions.
    
    I guess I feel that it's in some ways more important to secure the rights of the more hideous acting suspects, the more repulsive speech, etc; because its so easy to just turn a blind eye and not have a chance to stop the creeping lost of civil liberties.
Generic Stranger 12 years ago

YOUR WELCOME.
1. Generic Stranger 12 years ago
  
  Also, EDIT BUTTON DAMMIT!
  1. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
    
    Excellent use of the correct form of complaint.
2. Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
  
  rofl
3. Zakalwe 12 years ago
  
  Why is always MY welcome when it's done something bad, "our" welcome when it's neutral, and yours when it does something good?
  1. Generic Stranger 12 years ago
    
    Becuz I no tipe gud.
Mr. Weebles 12 years ago

Mirandizing an injured, half-conscious suspect is useless.

They only need to read him the Miranda warning when they question him anyway.
0x90 12 years ago

Pretty amazing, how some people don't seem to know how to avoid attracting attention:

Alex Gonzales @Dutch_Master93

Fuck all u niggas hating on jahar man. He went down like a soldier

TnL 4/20 Monty ?@MonTanA_BaBy

Jahar hold it down my nigga! You a trill dude I kno u gonna be fine,
stick wit the deen Aukh #salaam

These are people who appear on Tsarnaev's (nickname "Jahar") twitter page. While many have "protected" their accounts, some apparently relish the idea of having a little chat with the FBI & DEA.
1. Rhywun 12 years ago
  
  You a trill dude I kno u gonna be fine, stick wit the deen Aukh
  
  OK, I speak English and I can't understand any of that. How is "Johar" supposed to.
  1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
    
    Translation from ghetto and Arabic:
    
    You are an honorable gentleman, and I am certain that you shall be vindicated in the end, maintain your religious devotion!
    1. Rhywun 12 years ago
      
      Thank you.
    2. tarran 12 years ago
      
      Do you also speak jive?
      1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Do you also speak jive?
        
        Sho 'nuff, sucka.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        TnL 4/20 Monty ?@MonTanA_BaBy 2h
        
        Any ya'll niggas disrespectin Jahar me & my niggas in the Coast mobbin #ComeThru
        
        Indeed.
        
        Rhywun 12 years ago
        
        Shut yo mouth!
2. Conrad 12 years ago
  
  You think the Obama regime will go after blacks who say things like that? Just like they payed attention to all of the blacks who support Dormer? You have a lot to learn.
  1. Irish 12 years ago
    
    Shut up, racist. Get back in your hole.
    1. Conrad 12 years ago
      
      Do you deny the truth of what I say or are you just expressing your personal vendetta against me?
      1. Irish 12 years ago
        
        Yes, I have a personal vendetta against you.
        
        That's why I keep getting banned from this site and come back to say the same stupid shit over and over again.
        
        Because I'm the obsessed one.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        I don't know why I was banned. I sent a few angry emails to them about it, and no one replied, but they did un-bann my IP address. My views really aren't very different from that of most Republicans. If Reason intends to ban anyone who expresses Republican views, they should say so. I like a good debate, and I try to be civil about it, unlike some people.
        
        Nazdrakke 12 years ago
        
        I don't know why I was banned.
        
        You know, I kinda believe that. I think you don't know why.
        
        This makes it worse, not better.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        Okay you tell me why I was banned. I never received any information from Reason. It just said "Your IP address has been banned" whenever I tried to post something.
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        You got banned because you say stupid shit.
        
        VG Zaytsev 12 years ago
        
        It can't be that our you would'a been banned 100 times by now.
  2. 0x90 12 years ago
    
    Yeah, that was my point exactly.
    
    #englishmotherfuckerdoyouspeakit
3. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
  
  Deep Thoughts from TnL 4/20 Monty:
  
  Damn Jahar is my nigga & all but I coulda been at the boston marathon and he could've killed me
  1. Rhywun 12 years ago
    
    I LOL'ed.
  2. 0x90 12 years ago
    
    Kind of surreal, isn't it? It's almost as if they don't grasp that the whole world can read this stuff. Or they're just strangely comfortable with that. Either way, I really don't get it.
    1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
      
      This is why I'm glad I'm not telepathic. For many, Twitter is just a stream-of-consciousness dumping ground for the mental logorrhea that originates in their limbic system and never gets a chance to be censored by the pre-frontal cortex.
      
      It's like Tourette's Syndrome, but trendy.
      1. 0x90 12 years ago
        
        That, or we're witnessing the process by which the human brain becomes vestigial, on our way to becoming something like a planet-sized jellyfish.
4. Stilgar 12 years ago
  
  You mean the fake twitter page right? The one with tweets that start on.. Wed? It is very easy to create fake social media crap and unfortunately, there seems to be a sick group who thrive on doing this after every tragic event and then saying "look what I found!"
  1. 0x90 12 years ago
    
    No, not the fake one, this one.
Bam! 12 years ago

Based on the footage of people pouring out onto the streets of Boston, it looks like this might turn into an excuse to drink copious amounts of alcohol.
1. Generic Stranger 12 years ago
  
  So....standard Friday night?
2. A Serious Man 12 years ago
  
  Like they need an excuse.
3. Auric Demonocles 12 years ago
  
  I will confirm this.
  
  Source: Have run out of beer and will head to the bar now.
  1. A Serious Man 12 years ago
    
    How late are liquor sales permitted in Mass?
Caleb Turberville 12 years ago

Radley Balko's Twitter said that McCain and Graham are calling for a suspension of the suspect's right to counsel. Not that McCain or Graham could seriously influence this case enough to make it happen; just a reminder of our leaders in the supposed party of "small government."
1. 0x90 12 years ago
  
  It's no big deal, as McCain can testify, countries often deprive military prisoners of basic human rights. Sometimes, the harrowing story even helps those prisoners to go on to become maverick senators. So in a way, you might say we'd be doing the kid a favor.
2. Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
  
  They're not leaders in the GOP any more. They're a crusty residue of the past.
  
  Note that their most recent activity has all been complaining about what the GOP is doing.
Bam! 12 years ago

Amazon's "Zombieland: The Series" pilot sucks on all levels.
1. MJGreen 12 years ago
  
  Even more than the movie? That's hard to believe.
2. sticks 12 years ago
  
  I made it a whole 7 minutes into it.
benji 12 years ago

GLENN BECK DOESN'T BLUFF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiEpSggvZFU

Government has until Monday or he'll expose it!
1. Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
  
  Also sprach The Beckerhead!
2. Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
  
  That is the weakest Beckerhead CT yet. I watched all 3 minutes hoping there was something I could make fun of.
  
  Nothing. Just his routine idiocy.
  1. Irish 12 years ago
    
    You realize that you're basically prog Glenn Beck, correct?
    
    Beck has bizarre conspiracies about Obama. You have bizarre conspiracies about Reagan and Rumsfeld giving mustard gas to Saddam Hussein in some smoke filled back room.
    
    It's funny that you mock Glenn Beck, when you're basically the same person.
    1. Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
      
      I am not a "prog" you dumbass. I am a liberal.
      
      And I never said Reagan "gave" mustard gas to Iraq. I said they allowed the sale of such.
      
      http://www.gulfweb.org/bigdoc/report/riegle1.html
      
      The Riegle Report identifies some 70 shipments of chemical weapons to Iraq authorized by Reagan and Rummy.
      
      Now STFU.
      1. Irish 12 years ago
        
        If I recall, you said that Reagan SOLD chemical weapons to Iraq, when actually what happened is they removed them from a list of state sponsors of terror, which simply allowed American companies to trade with them.
        
        Looking at the part of that report dealing with U.S. exports to Iraq, I see that the names 'Reagan' and 'Rumsfeld' are noticeably absent.
        
        Sorry, Shrike. You're a left-wing BeckerDitto.
        
        Palin's Buttplug 12 years ago
        
        So you admit you lied.
        
        You previously asserted that I said R/R "gave" chemical weapons to Iraq. Now you scale back to "sold". Sanctions like Obama has on Iran would be best.
        
        Admit it. You are making shit up again.
        
        The truth is that I am a non-interventionist like you likely are and the Beckerhead is our common enemy.
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        Switch the word "sold" with "gave" in Irish's post and nothing is changed. Fucking Christ, you're fucking retarded.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        I am not making anything up. You said Reagan gave or sold (sorry for being semantically inconsistent) weapons to Saddam Hussein. When asked to prove this absurd assertion, you gave us a source saying that Reagan removed them from a state list of terror which simply allowed American companies to sell to them, if they so chose.
        
        Obviously those two things are different. You're the one who initially lied about Reagan's involvement in Saddam's creation of chemical weapons.
      2. Jordan 12 years ago
        
        I am not a "prog" you dumbass.
        
        Funny how you have to keep making that claim. People might believe it if you stopped sucking progressive cock for a day.
      3. PapayaSF 12 years ago
        
        They weren't "chemical weapons," fool. As it says in the title, they were "dual-use" materials: things with legitimate uses that could be used for nefarious purposes. It's the difference between selling someone a bomb and selling them a pressure cooker that can be turned into a bomb.
      4. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
        
        I am not a "prog" you dumbass. I am a liberal.
        
        And here comes Shriek, up a tree, still-warm feces in his leathery, simian hand.
        
        I thought you 90% libertarian according to the Buttplug Liberty Index.
    2. VG Zaytsev 12 years ago
      
      Beck has bizarre conspiracies about Obama.
      
      Yeah, Remember when he claimed that Obama was illegally sending guns to Mexican drug cartels?
Conrad 12 years ago

I just read Heartiste's Brilliant analysis of our current situation. From Photo Of The Century Shoot-Out:

It's still early in the 21st Century, but already we have two photos which so deliciously capture the zany zeitgeist and cultural erosion of America that it makes sense to vote now on which one will win Photo of the Century.

First up is a pic (or, rather, a TV screen capture) of a Mercedes SUV. This is the car that was carjacked by the two Boston Marathon Muslim bombers, brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, (two dudes, it should be noted, who are about as culturally and genetically far from NW European whites as Levantine Semites are), as they were fleeing from police. On the SUV's bumper is a "COEXIST" sticker.
Conrad 12 years ago

I just read Heartiste's Brilliant analysis of our current situation. From Photo Of The Century Shoot-Out:

It's still early in the 21st Century, but already we have two photos which so deliciously capture the zany zeitgeist and cultural erosion of America that it makes sense to vote now on which one will win Photo of the Century.

First up is a pic (or, rather, a TV screen capture) of a Mercedes SUV. This is the car that was carjacked by the two Boston Marathon Muslim bombers, brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, (two dudes, it should be noted, who are about as culturally and genetically far from NW European whites as Levantine Semites are), as they were fleeing from police. On the SUV's bumper is a "COEXIST" sticker.
1. MJGreen 12 years ago
  
  "Brilliant"?
  
  First is collectivist bullshit, second is laughing at an overweight woman (not even obese, just fat). LOL OMG DELICIOUS!
  1. Conrad 12 years ago
    
    That's the watchword "collectivist." The dream of a non-collectivist society(the way you describe it) functioning is exactly that, a dream, no more real than the dreams of the marxists.
    1. heller 12 years ago
      
      Which is basically like saying the dream of a society without stupidity is just a dream. That argument doesn't somehow make being stupid cool.
      1. Conrad 12 years ago
        
        It is like saying you want an end to stupidity, and then promoting policies that promote it. You think having more immigrants will mean less conflict?
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        By promoting policies you mean respecting someone's rights and minding my own business, even if they are stupid. Which of course is not the same thing as promoting stupidity.
        
        Again, that argument doesn't somehow make being stupid cool. But keep trying, maybe if you show off yours enough, it will catch on.
        
        MJGreen 12 years ago
        
        More immigrants may or may not mean less conflict. Insisting that peace/co-existence is not possible will certainly mean more conflict.
        
        That's why you're kind of a dick.
2. Rhywun 12 years ago
  
  I want the 2 minutes back I just wasted clicking on that link.
  1. Irish 12 years ago
    
    It's Merkin. He's an easy spot.
    1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
      
      I think Merkin is Heartiste.
      1. Phillip 12 years ago
        
        It would make a lot of sense. American's intense social conservativism, combined with a hypocritical refusal to live by it, along with atheism and social Darwinism is uniquely roissian.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        There is nothing hypocritical about my refusal to live by social conservatism. It would be near impossible to live by social conservatism, and be happy, in this world. I just don't see most women as marriage material. Women bear more of a moral responsibility, as they are the guardians of reproduction. The rulers created our current culture, women, as with their nature, went along with it, and now men have little choice but to correspondingly go along with it. The good news, though, is that our system is unsustainable, it will fall apart by itself. Unfortunately, our civilization will likely suffer a great blow as well.
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        Virgin.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        A libertarian called me a virgin today. Wow.
        
        Hey Heller, can you explain to me the Subjective theory of value?
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        Notice he didn't deny that he is a virgin. Because he is a virgin.
        
        Hey Heller, can you explain to me the Subjective theory of value?
        
        That depends, do you mean describe it or describe it in a way a retarded person like you could understand. Because I don't think I could do the latter.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Yeah, God knows no one here ever talks about their wives or girlfriends. We are as monks in their cloister.
        
        Also, women really hate well educated men, I guess. That's the only way Merkin's 'HAHAHAHA! You know smart things!' insult could possibly have anything to do with sex.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Education is sooooo beta.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        Come on guys. Say it out loud "a libertarian got laid." Did a smirk not come to your face?
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        There is nothing beta about education. But it isn't a turn on to talk about economics, libertarian economics in particular. It screams "desperate nerdy right winger who never gets laid."
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Well, I guess that's why I don't talk about economics when I'm talking to a girl at a bar.
        
        I assume you don't walk up to a girl and say 'Hello. Let us discuss my opinions about immigration.'
        
        Then again, since the women you're interested in can only communicate via grunt, maybe you do.
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        The whole beta/alpha/sluts/PUA philosophy is just a persecution complex invented by lifelong virgins like Conrad. It's an idiotic myth.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Given that most of the people here are married or in a relationship, no, not really.
        
        And I don't understand why you're so pleased about the pig you're currently banging. Coming when you say 'SOOOOIEEEEE!' is not a proper basis for a relationship.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        And I don't understand why you're so pleased about the pig you're currently banging.
        
        That's because she does anal.
      2. Irish 12 years ago
        
        Problem: American is hardcore anti-slut and their slutty, slutty ways. He seems terrified of vaginas.
        
        Sluts are basically Roissie's lifeblood.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        A wannabe is even more pathetic.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        I'm not terrified of vaginas. When thinking of me, just think of male humanity circa 1950. Humanity had good reasons to fear sluts, reasons that would be obvious to anyone with a background in evolutionary processes and logic. I'm a fan of Roissy and his work. You can add that to your list of reasons to hate me.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Yes. In the 1950's, women were soooo modest.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        Here we go with exceptions that prove the rule. For one, the fifties was the begging of the end. You'll probably say next "but they had whorehouses in the 1800s." Whores are a sign of cultural conservatism. Today, women give it away for free. Or you'll say single mothers have "always" been around, the logical equivalant of arguing that the holocaust was okay because murder was "always" practiced. Or you'll point to the Late Roman Empire, as if it didn't collapse for a reason.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Or you'll point to the Late Roman Empire, as if it didn't collapse for a reason.
        
        It collapsed because sluts happened?
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        No. It collapsed because of civil war. However, the amoral behavior of the Roman aristocracy did not help. The patterns that developed among the Roman aristocracy, laziness, obesity, greed, libertinism, nepotism, declining marriage and birth rates, and high illegitimacy rates were predictive of what was later to come in societies of obscene wealth.
        
        VG Zaytsev 12 years ago
        
        No. It collapsed because of civil war. However, the amoral behavior of the Roman aristocracy did not help.
        
        The immorality of the Roman elites peaked in the late principate period and actually improved over the next 200 years.
        
        Blaming the 5th century collapse of the western empire on immorality is like claiming that our problems are caused by the immorality of Elizabethan society.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Or, using Occam's Razor, you're just wrong.
        
        But you'd never admit that, would you?
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        His argument is now that whores are the road to cultural purity. The more whores, the more culturally conservative.
        
        Okay.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        The other way around Irish. The more cultural conservatism, the more whores will likely be a part of the society. In our society, where young men can get for free easily, whores are less important. Though morality can counter prostitution, it can never reach every single individual. It simply does not align with biology.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Then why did late stage Rome, with all those filthy, filthy sluts, still have a shit load of prostitutes?
        
        The ancient world always had tons of prostitutes, regardless of how otherwise sexually permissive the culture was. There is no correlation.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        Late stage Rome wasn't as bad as modern America. My point was that Whores are no indication of cultural libertinism, in fact, they can be seen as the opposite.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        I've known folks like American before; precocious 14-year-olds who are intelligent enough to read on various subjects, but don't possess the accumulated knowledge to sift the bullshit out from various sources.
        
        In my previous interactions with him, certain deficits in his knowledge of science, history, philosophy, linguistics, literature, and other disciplines were clear.
        
        Perhaps he will grow out of his ignorance cum arrogance, but its more likely that his knowledge and intellect will be fossilized in its current immature state.
        
        Sad, really.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        How is Occam's razor applicable here?
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        If you can't see it, why should I bother explaining it to you. It's clear you couldn't follow my explanation. Besides, My institution usually charges 200 dollars per credit hour for the privilege my online tuition. I see no reason to educate you for free.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        I can see why you might possibly find Occam's razor applicable. My argument is based on more or less reasonable assumptions than yours. I simply do not see it.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        I would do such vile, unbelievable things to 1950s Bridget Bardot. Holy God.
        
        LTC(ret) John 12 years ago
        
        You can have her, if I get Bettie Page!
benji 12 years ago

INFO WARZ: http://www.infowars.com/boston.....ed-by-fbi/

"He was controlled by the FBI, like for three, five years," she told Russia Today during an interview. "They knew what my son was doing, they knew what actions and what sites on the Internet he was going [to], they used to come?and talk to me?they were telling me that he was really a serious leader and they were afraid of him."

"How could this happen??They were controlling every step of him, and they are telling today that this is a terrorist attack," she added.
1. Sevo 12 years ago
  
  "He was controlled by the FBI, like for three, five years,"
  Well, he was really that guy on the grassy knoll, but until now, I wasn't allowed to tell you that.
2. Irish 12 years ago
  
  pass the tinfoil says:
  April 19, 2013 at 10:24 pm
  sdfasfdgdf
  
  Alex Jones, the liar, says drills were taking place because 1 twit said so. I'm offering $15,000 to anybody who provides video/audio evidence of this claim. 10?s of thousands were at the event. Certainly one person recorded it. I'm challenging you infowarriors. $15,000 for the proof.
  
  call me paranoid cowards with your evidence
  
  1-304-757-5543
  
  Sincerely, Troy Sexton
  
  It occurs to me that you might not want to go putting your phone number and full name on a site exclusively populated by trolls and paranoid nutcases.
  1. Ruckus 12 years ago
    
    WV area code!
  2. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
    
    Check out this link. It seems he has a long history of trolling troothers.
Sevo 12 years ago

SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL)| 4.19.13 @ 11:12PM |#
"I wanted more job security."

Are you on a ship?: http://www.marinetraffic.com/a.....level0=100
1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
  
  Nope, I'm 10 days into my 28off/28on (even time) schedule. Although I have never been on a ship that doesn't have satellite internet. Usually there's too much paperwork during a 12 hour watch to actually care about politics.
  
  That site really under represents the amount of traffic. For example, there are so many tankers passing through Galveston bay you could walk across. Without giving out too much info, I work out of Port Fourchon. Pretty much the only port left in LA thanks to Katrina.
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    I was in a theater company with a merchant marine guy and he had the most amazing popeye forearms I have ever seen in my life.
    
    He had some good stories too. If that's what you do, props to you. Sounds like a good job
    1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
      
      Besides politics, both of us are similar in that we both went through a paramilitary academy (four years for me).
      1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Yea, he had some stories about the academy too. Sounds like it's tough, but good times.
        
        Anyways, I can respect your job. It's a no bullshit job, and you get to be out and see the world vs. the ivory tower isolated bullshit type jobs a lot of people have.
        
        My academy was way shorter, but I had to go to two (Mass and Hawaii). I almost went to a third in WA but got a reprieve.
        
        Good to meet you. I'm the resident cop here, so I take a metric assload of abuse, but it's all good. I don't take it personally.
Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago

Huge traffic and comment everywhere over Republican Rep. Nate Bell's insensitive Twitter comment about the Boston manhunt, a gibe at liberals and gun control. Even his own Republican colleagues distanced themselves from Bell. Republican House Speaker Davy Carter jumped to be the first to apologize for the whole state

I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine? #2A

? Nate Bell (@NateBell4AR)
1. Irish 12 years ago
  
  I note that liberals were trying to make this whole thing about gun rights too with their 'THIS IS ALL THE NRA'S FAULT!'
  
  Team Red and Team Blue idiots are pretty much the same.
2. A Serious Man 12 years ago
  
  Sometimes you just got to leave well enough alone.
3. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
  
  Insensitive? The man is spot on in his derision of gun-grabbing hypocrites.
  1. Irish 12 years ago
    
    He's in the Arkansas House of Representatives. If anything, this will probably help him.
  2. Rhywun 12 years ago
    
    I fail to see how a roving lunatic who is known to have dropped bombs equates to your average criminal that might be expected to be defended against per 2A.
    1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
      
      Well, if you want to get all 2A about it, the amendment was written with the vision of fighting off invading soldiers. Some of those soldiers might be grenadiers
    2. MJGreen 12 years ago
      
      Both can be stopped by a bullet. That's the only similarity that matters.
      
      It's not like the cops all put down their guns, saying, "Well, this guy has bombs. Our guns are useless here!"
    3. MJGreen 12 years ago
      
      Both can be stopped by a bullet. That's the only similarity that matters.
      
      It's not like the cops all put down their guns, saying, "Well, this guy has bombs. Our guns are useless here!"
  3. MJGreen 12 years ago
    
    Yeah, what's wrong with it? We've had Mass commenters here saying they wished they were armed.
    
    I guess the only problem with the tweet is the suggestion that Boston liberals wished they had guns. I could see the common man wishing that. Many Boston liberals would probably be just as frightened by the gun, and were instead wishing the cops could save them.
  4. Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
    
    The man is spot on in his derision of gun-grabbing hypocrites.
    
    He is, but you can be right in the wrong way. Making jokes about this right in the middle of the event is just asking for self-righteous condemnation from your enemies.
4. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
  
  What Nate Bell tweeted was not okay but what David Sirota wrote in Salon is okay?
  
  Let's Hope the Boston Marathon Bomber is a white American
  
  If recent history is any guide, if the bomber ends up being a white anti-government extremist, white privilege will likely mean the attack is portrayed as just an isolated incident ? one that has no bearing on any larger policy debates. Put another way, white privilege will work to not only insulate whites from collective blame, but also to insulate the political debate from any fallout from the attack.
  1. Rhywun 12 years ago
    
    Nope. They're both awful.
    1. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
      
      But the problem is, his theory is defective. Adam Lanza loses his shit, goes lone wolf mass killer, and not only is the political debate not insulated, but the White House attempts to move heaven and earth to assault the 2nd Amendment.
      
      As for the whites from collective blame...that one just defies reasoning.
  2. Conrad 12 years ago
    
    Maybe that's because when white's do things like this it usually is an isolated incident, and Ay-Rabs have a world-wide network of terror organizations that give encouragement and training to terrorists. But reality is racist.
    1. Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
      
      Yeah...don't agree me. Don't even give the appearance of agreeing with me. Just sit in the corner with the rest of the Paleocons/Neo-confederates/Dominionists who earnestly believe freedom is only for white people.
      1. Conrad 12 years ago
        
        Freedom has always, historically been a white American thing. America had it, other lands didn't. Many liberty advocates recognized reasons why. If the Ay-Rabs or Mexicans want to have freedom they have big countries, many countries. But their governments, and, for that matter, opinion polling, has been clear that they don't want it. They want despotism, for their lands and mine.
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        If you don't think think liberty applies to everyone, then you aren't advocating liberty.
        
        Freedom for me but not for thee IS despotism.
        
        AuH20 12 years ago
        
        Freedom has always, historically been a white American thing.
        
        Wow! I had better tell this to all the Christians and Jews who lived peacefully and largely persecution free, free to practice their religions, under the various Muslim caliphates until around the Mongol Invasion in the 1200s!
        
        I better tell this to medieval Icelanders and their sole democratic power in Europe!
        
        I had better tell this to the writers of the Magna Carta, none of whom would identify as American.
        
        Your historical ignorance is, to me, someone who actually studied this shit, incredibly offense. How are you so stupid, stupid?
        
        VG Zaytsev 12 years ago
        
        Yep,
        Nothing says libertarian like European feudalism and muslim caliphates.
        
        Anonymous Coward 12 years ago
        
        Freedom has always, historically been a white American thing.
        
        Citation needed.
        
        America had it, other lands didn't.
        
        Question begging.
        
        Many liberty advocates recognized reasons why.
        
        Citation needed.
        
        If the Ay-Rabs or Mexicans want to have freedom they have big countries, many countries.
        
        If the Whites wanted freedom, they have big countries like France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Holland, England. Many countries.
        
        Yes, it really does sound just as stupid when you write it.
        
        But their governments, and, for that matter, opinion polling, has been clear that they don't want it.
        
        Who is "they," and why are you equivocating government and society, shithead?
        
        Let me guess, all furriners look the same to you. Got it.
        
        They want despotism, for their lands and mine.
        
        Written without a hint of irony. Freedom for me, but not for thee! God bless America! Except for those who aren't white!
        
        Kindly fuck off, you racist despot.
5. MJGreen 12 years ago
  
  People seriously calling for his resignation?
  
  Over a tweet?
  
  A tweet that defends a Constitutional right, whereas other Congressmen publish comments explicitly calling for the revocation of centuries-old legal guarantees?
  
  Seriously, Charlie Fucking Rangel is still in Congress. But this is the guy that needs to resign.
  1. MJGreen 12 years ago
    
    Yay, I'm posting twice. Sorry for the clutter, folks.
6. MJGreen 12 years ago
  
  People seriously calling for his resignation?
  
  Over a tweet?
  
  A tweet that defends a Constitutional right, whereas other Congressmen publish comments explicitly calling for the revocation of centuries-old legal guarantees?
  
  Seriously, Charlie Fucking Rangel is still in Congress. But this is the guy that needs to resign.
Conrad 12 years ago

Those who say that we will have a world without tribalism and conflict if only white people gave up their patriotism are like those liberals who say we will have a society of peace if only we give up our guns.
1. heller 12 years ago
  
  Who actually says that though?
  1. Conrad 12 years ago
    
    Liberals and libertarians.
    1. heller 12 years ago
      
      If you can quote anyone who isn't one of your sockpuppets saying that, I will send you $20 through Paypal.
  2. Nazdrakke 12 years ago
    
    Strawmen? Those bastards say the strangest things sometimes..
    1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
      
      Conrad is shreek's "character", his interpretation of one of those flyover-country, tea party hillbillies.
      1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        I'm not so sure. There are people who earnestly believe the same bullshit as Conrad/American out there. A lot of them hang out in places like Taki's Mag, where they conspire to steal the label "libertarian" from us.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        Many libertarians are TakiMag readers. It has been the cosmotarian social-liberals who have stolen libertarianism. Do you really think Ron Paul, being a southern Pro-life Christian, would be very welcome in a meeting of you guys? Considering what he wrote in his Newsletters? There are many libertarians who aren't internationalist, they are many of the historic founders of the movement. Besides, do you really believe your system could work in the real world?
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        The same Taki-Mag that published this gem of an essay?
        
        Why Isn't Racism Cool?
        
        Clearly we're the ones with the problem.
        
        Are you actually John Derbyshire, American?
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        No, but I am a fan. I loved that article, pointing out the hypocrisy of modern "rebels" whose main cause is to enforce the current system. But I'll bet you didn't even read the article.
        
        VG Zaytsev 12 years ago
        
        The same Taki-Mag that published this gem of an essay?
        
        Why Isn't Racism Cool?
        
        The irony that racism is in fact cool, as long as it's anti-white racism, is lost on cosmos.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Not really, since people talk about that all the time.
        
        Keep making up bizarre claims to agree with the racist though.
        
        VG Zaytsev 12 years ago
        
        Not really, since people talk about that all the time.
        
        Sure it is. Because you're like "oh my god racist" when he's obviously spoofing progressive anti-white racism.
        
        But that's just not cool for the cosmos, might not get invited to the right cocktail parties if they don't parrot proggy outrage.
        
        Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
        
        Many libertarians are TakiMag readers. It has been the cosmotarian social-liberals who have stolen libertarianism
        
        Yep. Keep telling yourself this.
        
        Do you really think Ron Paul, being a southern Pro-life Christian, would be very welcome in a meeting of you guys?
        
        Yes, we're not knee-jerk bigots like you. Besides, last time I counted there were plenty of pro-life Christian southerners on here.
        
        There are many libertarians who aren't internationalist, they are many of the historic founders of the movement.
        
        Like whom?
        
        Besides, do you really believe your system could work in the real world?
        
        You don't even know what my "system" is, so where do you get off asking me that question?
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        Our system hasn't really been implemented.
        
        American's system, on the other hand, has been implemented many times in the past. It's called apartheid, and it doesn't generally work.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        It has worked many times. In Japan, for example, it has preserved the Japanese nation and working class. Israel has managed to survive years without dying for lack of third world immigrants.
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        You don't know what you're talking about. Israel loves its Filipinos.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        And Ethiopians. The only immigrants that Israel really doesn't like are the ones that, you know, keep trying to blow them up.
        
        Which, as far as prejudices go, is pretty reasonable.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        Simply not true. Israel recently deported many of the blacks.
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        They deported like 5000 people who entered the country illegally through Egypt.
        
        Meanwhile, they've absorbed a million Russian immigrants into a country that only has a population of 8 million people.
        
        Of course, Israel has done horrible things to immigrants, including allegedly forcing African immigrants to take birth control or get abortions. That doesn't change the fact that claiming that Israel is ethnically homogeneous is completely insane.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        A Jewish state welcome Jewish immigrants. Multiculturalism all the way!
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        "You don't even know what my "system" is, so where do you get off asking me that question?"
        
        I have a pretty good idea based on your comments, in four words it can be summed up as "get off my property!"
2. Rhywun 12 years ago
  
  Yeah, every time I advocate for the freedom for humans to live and work where they want, I frame it in terms of "white people giving up their patriotism". Because, it's so obvious when you put it that way.
SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago

Is Erin Burnett possibly the greatest addition to cable news, ever?
1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
  
  I dunno. To me, she always has a facial expression that looks like she's smelling something very bad.
  
  She needs to stop doing that.
  1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
    
    She's no supermodel, but IMHO falls under the "smart girl next door" category.
    1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
      
      She's not ugly at all...but even her wikipedia pic has her making that goddamn face!
  2. mad libertarian guy 12 years ago
    
    To me, she always has a facial expression that looks like she's smelling something very bad.
    
    It makes me want to ask her, "Did somebody fart?".
2. Sidd Finch 12 years ago
  
  No, because Megyn Kelly.
  1. Irish 12 years ago
    
    ^^^^ YES!
    
    Holy, Hell.
    
    Somehow I feel like Megyn Kelly wasn't included in our Hot Pundits thread we had last week, and that was a serious oversight.
    1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
      
      That was before the baby. And the haircut.
      
      Also, this
  2. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
    
    Eh.
    
    Brunette Blonde
    1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
      
      Hmmm, I see that "greater than" symbols are banned like ampersands.
      1. Sidd Finch 12 years ago
        
        1. Megyn Kelly is smarter.
        
        2. "Megyn" strongly suggests she takes it in up the butt.
        
        SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
        
        "2. "Megyn" strongly suggests she takes it in up the butt."
        
        Link, or it didn't happen.
        
        SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
        
        "1. Megyn Kelly is smarter."
        
        naaaaaaahhhhhh. You obviously never watched Erin on CNBC.
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Caleb Turberville 12 years ago

Rachel Maddow reporting that the man who found the suspect in his boat "went out for a smoke."

So, cigarettes stopped terrorism?
1. Rhywun 12 years ago
  
  Did she do that little hand-waving thing in front of her nose? Like, "Ew!"
2. 0x90 12 years ago
  
  Not only that, but they saved the guy's life, when he took a peek into that covered boat. Had the kid not been overwhelmed by secondhand smoke, it's likely that man would be dead right now.
  
  And the terrorists would've won.
  1. Caleb Turberville 12 years ago
    
    If I were a PR guy for Big Tobacco, I would play this up as the patriotic rebirth of smoking.
    
    "Defend your country. Smoke!"
    1. 0x90 12 years ago
      
      "I don't always smoke. But when I do, I do it for my country. And for the children." ? ?
3. Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
  
  No, indoor smoking bans did.
MJGreen 12 years ago

Jesus. I'm listening to parts of that Melissa Harris Perry show that Welch posted today (since I don't have DVRed Happy Endings, ABC! Shut up already, Diane Sawyer!). They are really, really terrible. Matt argues that cities and states without programs focused on low-income housing have lower rents, while places like NYC have wildly inflated prices. Naturally, MHP stops him and says they need to go to commercial. But before they do, the woman next to Matt says that low-income housing built the American middle class.

I knew "built the middle class" is a favorite trope of both teams, but this is fucking ridiculous. It's like Progressive Mad Libs. MHP also seemed to fall right into the Bastiat trap in the Chris Hayes clip, saying that, since Howard University was federally chartered, the tradition of higher-education for blacks could only exist because of big government.

What shameless partisans.
1. Rhywun 12 years ago
  
  states without programs focused on low-income housing have lower rents, while places like NYC have wildly inflated prices
  
  Not that I disagree, but "states without programs focused on low-income housing" are also states that don't have large, very dense cities with high demand. In other words, rents in NYC would only be the tiniest bit less ridiculous for those of us who aren't connected, absent controls.
  1. MJGreen 12 years ago
    
    The example Matt used was Houston. He was also clearly talking about housing and zoning regulations as a whole, but the language surrounding the discussion kept coming back to "low-income housing."
    1. Rhywun 12 years ago
      
      Well, to be fair, I don't think Houston compares to NYC very well, in terms of geography and demand. Mind you, I very much oppose manipulation in housing prices - but there is simply no way that getting rid of that crap in NYC is going to make it more affordable for very many.
2. 0x90 12 years ago
  
  "I'm listening to parts of that Melissa Harris Perry show."
  
  There's your problem, right there.
3. AuH20 12 years ago
  
  No one had better tell her about the black built, black run, and largely black funded Tuskegee Institute!
  
  Goddamnit, I wish Booker T had won over WEB Dubois. Because half of Dubois idea worked- a talented tenth of African Americans did rise in society and become quite well off, well educated, etc. But either because they lacked the numbers, social clout, or sense of noblese oblige, they haven't done shit to pull the bottom 90% up as WEB Dubois wanted.
Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago

The people of boston are, as they say,"wicked awesome".I used to party a bit at the Rathskeller and went to my first police academy in suburban Boston area. Love the people and the area. Unlike Pac NWers, who tend to be a bunch of passive aggressive pussies, Bostonians tell it like it is, and at least if you are hanging out in Southie, aint afraid of a little scrapping. I can respect that.Plus, they know what pizza is supposed to taste like.

I'd love to be back there partying, because tonight is probably going to be awesome.And I'm sure many a round will be on the house or on somebody else,buying for the cops they will be celebrating tonight for a job well done.

Boston PD is a good agency and the Boston cops, like bostonians are no bullshit salt of the earth kind of guys.I love boston cops, just couldn't apply because they had a residency requirement.They are tough cops, because it's a tough town, but ime fair and evenhanded.

I note that even this article refers to the lockdown as a stay indoors "request" and from what research I have done on the net, it was just that - a suggestion, nobody was arrested for violating it.

Either way, great job to the LEO's back there and condolences to the family and friends of

http://www.odmp.org/officer/21.....an-collier

I went to academy with some Harvard Cops and Campus cops take a lot of shit, from cops AND civilians and get made fun of, etc. but they are "on the job" just like "real cops"
1. Rhywun 12 years ago
  
  My fondest memory of Boston is being gay-bashed during a weekend trip by Southies cruising around Downtown in their SUV. Yay Boston.
  1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
    
    That sucks, man. I love me some Bostonians, but that gay bashing bullshit doesn't fly with me at all. I hope Karma, or a well armed gay guy (whether that be well armed with firarm gunz or with big muscled arm guns) catches up them one day and teaches them a lesson.
    
    Where I work now (Outside Seattle) seems to be pretty free of that kind of bullshit. If my police radio is any kind of indication, that shit is pretty rare around here.
    
    I hate bullies and one of the most satisfying aspects of police work is being able to bring bullies to justice.
    1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
      
      "Where I work now (Outside Seattle)"
      
      Is that you, Martin Crane?
      1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
        
        Is that the Frasier guy (dad?).
        
        I always thought that show was totally unrealistic in that they never once show him strapping on a gun (CCW). In fact, that's one way hollywood is incredibly unrealistic with guns. They never show an average joe who carries a gun. It's always either a cop, criminal, private investigator or average guy thrust into some sort of situation (like being chased by the mob).
        
        No dramas, sitcoms, or even movies will just have Joe Average who happens to carry a gun. Those people don't exist in hollywoodland
    2. Rhywun 12 years ago
      
      I just kind of laughed. It reminded me of a larger version of Buffalo, where a similar closed-mindedness prevails. Not to say that Boston is like that, except it was weird to have that happen within 2 days. It's not like I walk down the street in a frilly dress or something. Rather, I found it a very strong contrast to having lived in NYC for 15 years without any such incidents anywhere in the five boroughs or the burbs.
Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago

Truer words have never been spoken.
1. SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago
  
  Indeed. I was in Austin last month and damn, its been invaded and conquered by the Boulder disease.
2. Sidd Finch 12 years ago
  
  Those aren't even DJ Assault's truest words.
  1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
    
    Indeed.
Archduke Pantsfan 12 years ago

Anyone heard from the Norks all week?
Art Stone 12 years ago

Manifesto? Here is your stinkin' manifesto (via Bloomberg news)

...a video posted April 9 on his page purportedly shows images of atrocities in Syria and ends with the Russian phrase, "Syria calls. We answer."

The same day (Feb 28th) John Kerry is asking for $60 million to fund Syrian rebels, a car bomb planted by the rebels explodes in Damascas in between the Russian Embassy and Ba'ath party headquarters, killing 53, many of whom were children. You don't have to be Alex Jones to connect those dots. It just isn't clear who is on which side.
heller 12 years ago

If you ever visit 4chan, you will see thousands of guys like American. Lifelong virgins who blame their social/sexual failings on the women they desire. These women are sluts you see, because they won't sleep with Conrad and only fuck "alphas," aka guys who are able to talk to women.
1. Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago
  
  heller gets it in one.
  
  I'm just surprised weev is able to post from prison.
2. Conrad 12 years ago
  
  Actually game is about how to be alpha, and, I can tell you personally that it works. Not everyone who uses game is a conservative, you'd be surprised if you actually asked guys how many of them went to the internet for advice, many of them do. What's next, you'll tell us that all we need to do to get with women is to "be yourself."
  1. heller 12 years ago
    
    Dude, I'm sorry you are a virgin and you live in virgin fantasy-land. I'm sorry you think there is some kind of formula to fuck women that you haven't figured out yet. I really am sorry.
    1. Conrad 12 years ago
      
      Some men fuck women easily, some(likely a majority) men don't. You've all seen it. Some of us wonder why. What do you think?
      1. heller 12 years ago
        
        Your faulty picture of the situation is part of what prevents you from having relationships. Women are not a monolithic lock that some men have the key to and some men don't. Are you capable of understanding that men and women are diverse, want diverse things, and have diverse personalities? Some women will not want you, some women will. There's not much you can do to change that situation for the better, but you can easily make it so that no woman wants you if you are an asshole or if you are incapable of going up to a woman and finding out. Going from socially awkward to asshole certainly won't help. Adopting a persecution complex certainly won't help. The underlying problem of both the racists and the PUAs is that they ignore complexity to their detriment.
        
        Conrad 12 years ago
        
        " Some women will not want you, some women will."
        I'd rather have five hundred women want me than fifteen. Women are fairly monolithic just as men are. They want a high status alpha just as we want a beauty queen. Your view that what women want is based on men's deep personality is idiotic claptrap that plays nicely into the feminist narrative. Women aren't any more moral or less shallow than men are, especially now. The PUA has the goal of maximizing his notch count. He doesn't have the goal of seducing every single woman in the wolrd as you seem to think. Stop pedstalizing women. It shows low value.
        
        heller 12 years ago
        
        As I predicted, you're incapable of fully understanding what I wrote.
        
        I never mentioned numbers. I didn't say PUA think they can seduce every women. I'm talking about getting A woman. One woman. You're incapable of that, and you know it.
        
        Tulpa (LAOL-VA) 12 years ago
        
        Or maybe every woman is incapable of getting him?
        
        AuH20 12 years ago
        
        Or maybe every woman is incapable of getting him?
        
        Guys, you have got to stop blowing my mind. My girlfriend is going to be very suspicious when she sees your brain hickeys all over me.
        
        Fluffy 12 years ago
        
        Going from socially awkward to asshole certainly won't help.
        
        I agree with you in general, but this statement really isn't true.
        
        There is a percentage of women who like assholes, so going from socially awkward (and approaching no women) to being an asshole (and approaching all women) will definitely increase your raw count of successes.
        
        That's why game appears to work. Because X*.01 Y*0, where X is being an asshole and Y is not being an asshole, but being socially awkward.
        
        So Roissy is actually helping people, in a perverse way.
        
        You may say, "Well, they should go from being socially awkward to being socially confident, but non-assholic" and frankly, I see pretty strong psychological obstacles that make that extremely difficult for many people to do. It's pretty much the same reason why it's easier to teach people to be good salesmen when your Lesson #1 is to not give a shit. If you take somebody who can't do sales and try to train them to invest emotionally in each prospect like they're a unique snowflake, you will turn some of your trainees into incredibly awesome salespeople, but most of them will flame out after their first ten cold calls and will hate you, and sales, and customers, forever.
  2. AuH20 12 years ago
    
    There is a difference between men such as you and I: You see sex as some form of competition, as another notch in your bedpost, another pair of panties to nail on your wall. It is also a competition with women- you are always trying to "get" sex from them, trying to "score" on them. No wonder you have to have a different woman all the time: for you, sex is a purely mechanical act. Pleasurable but empty.
    
    This assumes that you have sex, but, hey, I figure that roofies are probably pretty cheap these days.
    
    Meanwhile, I actually like to like the women I fuck as human beings. Thinking, feeling, autonomous agents with their own needs, wants, desires, and issues. Yes, I know, it is a crazy notion that women may actually be just as human as men, but it is a notion that has served me well throughout life.
    
    My way is better than your way. No, there is no debate, no argument. I don't care how many more women you have fucked, how more alpha you are, what have you. Those are neither criteria nor evidence of success. The fact that you would even be tempted to use those as measures of success show just what a failure, as a human being, you are. One of the most basic parts of being an adult is recognizing that other human beings have thoughts and emotions and feelings that are just as, if not more, valid than your own.
    
    So, when your balls drop, and you feel like growing up and no longer being wrong, come back here and talk to real men. Until then, run along and play, little boy.
    1. Irish 12 years ago
      
      Dude, he thinks darkies need to be kept in their special ghettos, away from the noble white race.
      
      His horrible opinions on women are like the 20th worst thing about him.
      1. AuH20 12 years ago
        
        Eh, I think his views on women are worse, simply because that's half the human race. Demographically, that is his biggest dick position.
        
        I mean, he's a Nazi ass fuck, but at least Hitler was sexually open enough to be into Eva Braun shitting on him (seriously, I read that once in a book on Hitler. Props Eva Braun, right? She did literally what all the rest of us do figuratively: Shit on Hitler)
    2. Conrad 12 years ago
      
      A big part of game is convincing the women that they are the special little snowflakes they know themselves to be.
3. Conrad 12 years ago
  
  Libtards act like only the despicable loosers have problems in today's sexual market. They forget to mention that half of all marriages end in divorce. Why?
  1. Irish 12 years ago
    
    That's actually not true. The reason 'half of all marriages end in divorce' is because a small percentage of people have multiple divorces.
    
    http://www.truthorfiction.com/.....XIlZLWKJ8E
    
    The reason there are so many divorces is because a small percentage of losers keep fucking up. Which actually fits into the 'libtard' narrative, as far as that goes.
    1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
      
      Yes, this is a point I have made many times. It's a myth to say that, for example, if you are getting married, you have a 50% chance of getting divorced. Much higher than 50% of first marriages survive. The "serial divorcers" screw up the aggregate stats
      1. Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago
        
        My wife and I like to point out that as two white people in a first marriage with graduate degrees, higher than median income and two sets of parents with marriages still in tact it is practically impossible for us to get divorced.
        
        Of course individuals are not statistics.
        
        AuH20 12 years ago
        
        Don't worry Apatheist. I'm sure you two crazy kids can beat the odds!
        
        Irish 12 years ago
        
        It is now my life's goal to ruin Apatheist's marriage.
        
        Broseph of Invention 12 years ago
        
        Don't waste your time - teh gayz will do it for you.
  2. AuH20 12 years ago
    
    I could go with Irish, and cite how flawed that "half of all marriages" stat is.
    
    Or, I could point out that marriage is not the only entry point into today's sexual market. It's called living in sin, its super fun because the person you are banging is laying right next to you (also super annoying for much the same reasons), and when you break up dividing your shit is way easier. The only monkey wrench in this is that sometimes the state force marries you after living together for a while through common law marriage, but that is because the state is a big ol' cockpunch.
    
    But instead of choosing either option, I will ask for you to feel around your skull. Is there a piece of rebar sticking out? This could explain your stunning stupidity.
    1. Conrad 12 years ago
      
      I have said my times that I discourage young men to get married, unless they are really sure about the woman. Many of the men who do, one must conclude, don't have many other options.
heller 12 years ago

Actual status from a facebook "friend":

Thank you FDR for implementing the 4 freedoms, including the freedom from fear, and an endless appreciation to all of the men and women whom have been protecting the individuals of this state and country..you are true heroes!

...
1. Dunphy (the real one) 12 years ago
  
  um, wtf?
  
  I mean really ... WTF?
  
  That doesn't even make sense. How did he "implement" the "freedom from fear" and which "4 freedoms" is he referring to?
  1. 0x90 12 years ago
    
    Hey, it took a lot of work to learn a word like implement, why you gotta go and ruin it.
2. General Butt Naked 12 years ago
  
  Jesus heller, what the hell have you gotten yourself involved in?
  
  That the person you quoted knows who you are personally and has access to your digital life is fucking scary. Get away from the face-books.
3. 0x90 12 years ago
  
  I wonder if he could be disinterred. We could get FDR, Lenin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, the Kims, and Chavez, and put them all in a big glass case. With careful application of steam, you could probably pose them however you wanted to.
  1. heller 12 years ago
    
    *she
    1. 0x90 12 years ago
      
      Huh? Not sure how to make that work, unless either your friend is a female, dead, and buried, or FDR was a woman.
      1. Irish 12 years ago
        
        Not sure how to make that work, unless either your friend is a female, dead, and buried, or FDR was a woman.
        
        Why do you think she always had a blanket on her lap when she was sitting in her chair?
        
        I'm not sure I can feel good about that. Is it too soon to be making polio jokes?
        
        AuH20 12 years ago
        
        We eliminated polio in the 50s so I say joke away. Small pox and bubonic plague are also cool, AIDS is only funny if you write it well.
      2. heller 12 years ago
        
        The "friend" is female.
        
        0x90 12 years ago
        
        Female, yes, and ready to be disinterred? I think you read something other than what I wrote.
sidebottom 12 years ago

saw my broldest buddy down from dc, he all naval int b-crat now & expressed boredom in this & intrest in oblivion...the hell
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John 12 years ago

We are really fortunate in our enemies. I bet this guy proclaims to the world how proud he is to have killed the infidel. But if he were smart, he would claim he was innocent and troll people like Alex Jones and Lew Rockwell into a frenzy.
1. Jeff 12 years ago
  
  I doubt it. Tamerlan seemed to be the serious one, and probably not so coincidentally, he's not alive anymore. This kid seems like the dipshit pothead younger brother who just went along for the ride.
2. 0x90 12 years ago
  
  I'd be curious to hear how comfortable you'd be to either prosecute or defend this case, given all of the evidence that's been available to the public so far, but nothing more. On the defense side, the main question is: can you hypothesize any possible story the guy might tell you, where you'd honestly believe that it was a plausible series of events? And on the prosecution side, what points can you identify, where you'd wish you had more direct evidence.
  
  I stipulate that you have to stick to publicly-known facts here, and not whatever else the FBI may have that we don't know about, because it's the dynamics of the court of public opinion that I'm interested in analyzing. Regardless of the actual facts, there is a certain inertia, where no matter what proof to the contrary you came up with, the average person would be likely to reject it, based only on the fact that he's already made up his mind by this point in time.
  
  So far, I can only come up with one basic scenrario that I find to be plausible, given the actual data points we have, and though I would consider it highly unlikely, it is not entirely far-fetched. The only risk to this kind of speculation is that your truther types are liable to read it, and run with it, but no big deal, because in its absence, they'll just come up with something else, anyway.
  1. Fluffy 12 years ago
    
    I don't see the point of being a Truther in this case.
    
    If the government could fake the events of the last week, they can fake anything, or are impossible to defeat in any case. Working to "expose" them would be pointless.
    
    The ONLY way to be a Truther about this that would have any remote chance or being both plausible and actionable (actionable in the sense that "exposing" the secret would actually have some point, because it doesn't require an all-powerful conspiracy to be behind it) would be to say that the guys were CIA operatives and that the death photo of the older brother is photoshopped. That way you can concede that events happened exactly as the state says they did, with the only difference being that the Tsarvievs were agent provocateurs working for the CIA, to justify the passage of CISPA and Patriot Act part Whatever and domestic use of drones yadda yadda yadda.
    1. 0x90 12 years ago
      
      I'm not talking about a conspiracy, but only about a possible story where you have a guy who's not actually guilty of the marathon bombing. In other words, it's not truthers I'm thinking about, but rather people who would jump to declare the suspect as enemy combatant and such, and want to try him behind closed doors.
      
      And the series of events I am thinking about is much different than what you write above. Basically, it's just this: what is the likelihood that there are, within the population of that region, two brothers who a) are into playing with guns and illicit explosives, b) attended the marathon, but c) did not do the marathon bombing. Say there is such a pair. Upon seeing pictures of themselves in the FBI briefing, they realize that they've just found themselves in deep trouble. They could try and turn themselves in, but who is going to believe their story? So they decide to try and bolt, and everything plays out from there as it did.
      
      Not likely, but also not impossible. And more importantly, involving absolutely no conspiracy. And I am not putting that forth as an actual alternate explanation, it's just a thought experiment pertaining to hard evidence vs. reasonable doubt.
    2. John 12 years ago
      
      The only plausible "Truther" angle is that these guys were an FBI sting gone wrong. That is, the FBI put them up to it hoping to make an arrest and then fucked up and didn't arrest them before the bomb went off.
      1. Drax the Destroyer 12 years ago
        
        Hmmm... incompetence of a government agency is plausible...
  2. John 12 years ago
    
    I would happily do either. From the prosecution side, you have their actions after being confronted, which clearly show conscience of guilty. They also reportedly bragged about it. We have pictures of them at the scene. That is a pretty easy case to make.
    
    From the defense side, you blame everything on the dead brother. You say he planted the bombs and that you were afraid of him and just along for the ride. It probably wouldn't get you acquitted. But it would be the best chance you would have at saving him from the death penalty.
    1. 0x90 12 years ago
      
      Definitely, there are an awful lot of angles the kid could claim, especially with the brother being out of the picture. What he'd posted to twitter doesn't fit the cold-blooded killer profile to my reading, and it's pretty uniform among acquaintances that they don't see him being capable of doing it. I don't really see that angle coming out with the brother. You have the pictures of the suspect literally at the scene of the crime, but that fact is incongruous with a lot of these other things. So I think a defense could easily be made that he was operating under coercion beforehand, and then, basically, shock-induced suspension of reality afterward. To what degree that would be exonerating, who knows, but there's just too much room for me to be able to think as some people are at the moment. Just for example, here's something that was posted in the off-topic section of forum I deal with regularly in the course of doing business (basically, it's a forum of architects), which I found to be pretty disturbing:
      
      "They should blow his legs off, see how he likes it. Absolutely sickening act, the images will haunt me until the day I die."
      
      Pure emotion. I understand the anger, and it's entirely possible the kid is some full-on radical jihadist, who just happens to be very good at appearing to be your typical pot-head college idiot. But the more I think about it, the more I have to make room for the possibility that there may be more to it than that.
      1. John 12 years ago
        
        Defense step one, ask to move the trial out of Boston.
        
        0x90 12 years ago
        
        Yeah, this guy I'm quoting above happens to be from Manchester, UK. I've just been thinking a bit more about his statement, though...
        
        So here, we have a person who proposes to literally blow a person's legs off. Perhaps if pressed, he would retract that and go with something more reasonable, say the death penalty. But in either case, my question would be the same: given the evidence he has, which he himself must regard as being sufficient, given that he made the statement, would he actually, personally, trigger that detonator, or pull that lever?
        
        And if not, could he offer a cogent explanation as to why? I have a line of reasoning that says, basically, if you want to have this justice system, people somehow need to be made to feel the full weight of exactly what it is that they're doing, and that generally don't, since they are allowed to delegate the responsibility, shuffling the dirty work off onto some nameless and unseen state agent.
        
        I guess this is probably one of the more convincing arguments in favor of the jury system, since while it is still very indirect, at least each person might be made to consider such things in very concrete terms, at least sometime in their lives. I have other problems with that, but they'd be off-topic here.
        
        mad libertarian guy 12 years ago
        
        The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword.
        
        0x90 12 years ago
        
        Basically, yeah.
        
        Or, to go into sci-fi mode, picture a fully direct democratic court system, implemented over the internet. People are brought up on charges, tried, and a voluntary-participation vote is taken, which determines the verdict. The main condition for voting, though, is this: the responsibility of actually executing the verdict falls on a person randomly selected from among the pool of those who chose to vote.
        
        It's kind of interesting to work through the various motivations present, from whether you will vote, to how the possibility that you might be chosen affects the vote you make.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

would be to say that the guys were CIA operatives and that the death photo of the older brother is photoshopped. That way you can concede that events happened exactly as the state says they did, with the only difference being that the Tsarvievs were agent provocateurs working for the CIA, to justify the passage of CISPA and Patriot Act part Whatever and domestic use of drones yadda yadda yadda.

Call me crazy, but I have to ask myself what the "false flag" operators' end game could be. As far as extending or expanding Total Security State powers such as the Patriot Act, no meaningful obstacle has been erected thus far, so why bother?

Unless these guys are possessed of godlike foreknowledge, the timing is wrong to be related to the gun control debate in the Senate (not to mention the lack of, you know, guns in the original act) so that makes no sense whatever.
1. John 12 years ago
  
  You are not crazy, you are exactly right. If this was a false flag operation, there would have been some follow on. The point of a false flag is to show a false flag. Where is the flag here?
  
  Also, the fact that they are Islamic terrorists hurts Obama. Obama wants the narrative to be how he killed Bin Ladin and is so much more competent than Bush, no one has to worry about Islamic terrorism anymore Obama's narrative is that the real terrorism threat is the right wing tea baggers domestically. Acts of Islamic terrorism screw that up. That is why Obama doesn't want to talk about Bengazi and called the Fort Hood shooting "work place violence". The last thing Obama would do is run a false flag operation blaming Islamics for terrorism.
  1. Mike M. 12 years ago
    
    And his fawning, sycophantic worshippers in the liberal media have all but stopped talking about these guys already now that everyone knows that they're Muslim jihadists. No doubt they're hard at work furiously thinking of how in the world they're going to manage to spin this in Obama's favor.
    1. John 12 years ago
      
      Can you imagine if Hasan had instead of being a Muslim been a white radical black helicopter type? There would have been endless scare stories about the infiltration of the military by far right wing radicals. His trial would be the trial of the century. Instead, whenever his trial occurs, it will be a below the fold page 12 story.
      1. mad libertarian guy 12 years ago
        
        The only positive I can imagine (were Tsarnaev a white Tea Party type) is that he would likely already have been mirandized with no chance of getting lost in the Terror Matrix Zone.
        
        I get this feeling that he will never see the inside of a courtroom. Not before being subject to various atrocities done in my name.
        
        John 12 years ago
        
        Nah. They have him and they have an airtight case against him. They will follow the rules. They love having a big high profile case when they know they can win. They only do the other shit when they know they can't make the case against the guy.
        
        Mike M. 12 years ago
        
        Yep. The government-media complex says that there's no such thing as an Islamic terrorist, so this guy is going to be flushed down the memory hole very quickly. Starting like right now.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

The only plausible "Truther" angle is that these guys were an FBI sting gone wrong.

This is not the least likely scenario.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

Obama wants the narrative to be how he killed Bin Ladin and is so much more competent than Bush, no one has to worry about Islamic terrorism anymore

Shreeek swallowed it, hook, line, and balls.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

now that everyone knows that they're Muslim jihadists.

So you have read their manifesto?

Or does "not white American" = Mooslim = jihadi?
1. Conrad 12 years ago
  
  No. They did this because they were mad that they didn't have any Twinkies.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

I don't see why they would take him alive if that was the case. Pretty sure they'd want him shut up and dead so as to not expose their incompetence.

Too many members of the Noble Men in Blue standing around with their thumbs up their asses, tallying up that sweet sweet overtime pay, to get a clean shot. There's plenty of time for an unfortunate relapse, though.
mad libertarian guy 12 years ago

What I'm wondering is how why we have a "How Thatcher liberated Women" post, but dick on this guy not yet being mirandized? It's outrageous that he hasn't been, and is exactly what we all feared would happen with the reauthorization of the AUMF. What we're witnessing is the evisceration of the 5th Amendment guarantees we have, and the public cheering it on.

Mirandize him, or let him go.
1. 0x90 12 years ago
  
  Reason just wants us to keep posting in this thread. They're kind of jealous of huffpo's five-figure comment counts.
2. Mike M. 12 years ago
  
  You're right, but you're giving the public too much credit. Most people have no idea that the AUMF or NDAA even exist. They might if we still had a real media, but we have an Obama dick-sucking media.
The Late P Brooks 12 years ago

and the public cheering it on.

If the cops had pulled him out of his hiding place and dragged him, handcuffed to the rear bumper of an APC while firing their rifles wildly into the air like cartoon Mexican bandits, through the streets of Boston all night, would more than one in ten thousand people have cared?
1. mad libertarian guy 12 years ago
  
  If the cops had pulled him out of his hiding place and dragged him, handcuffed to the rear bumper of an APC while firing their rifles wildly into the air like cartoon Mexican bandits, through the streets of Boston all night, would more than one in ten thousand people have cared?
  
  Nope. They would have been cheered on and treated like heroes despite allowing an entire city to be shut down because a 19 year old boy eluded a thousand cops in full battle rattle running the gamut of local, state, a federal institutions. They should be hanging their heads in shame, yet they are treated like they're fucking superman.
Sevo 12 years ago

Archduke Pantsfan| 4.20.13 @ 12:16AM |#
"Anyone heard from the Norks all week?"

Yeah. Lil' Kim says if we start shipping him food and stuff, he might sit down to talk.
How ya gonna pass up that opportunity?
Solanum 12 years ago

Concerning the house-to-house searches in Watertown. I'm sure this has already been discussed, but does anyone know in what fashion the searches conducted?

1. Were the searches "knock and talks", and the homeowners voluntarily allowed (or disallowed) the police to come inside?

2. Did LE enter residences regardless of the homeowners' wishes (either by force or intimidation), even though they had no legal authority to do so?

3. Or did the powers that be deem the searches legal and mandatory?
F 12 years ago

I don't agree with American's racial views, essentially white nationalism, but I think that he is absolutely right on the subject of women. Throughout my life I have seen that there is a subset of men, maybe ten percent, who know how to get a lot of ass. Looks are an important part, of course, but aren't the major factor. It is attitude that matters. I won't say its simply "being an asshole" rather, it is being a specific type of asshole, the aloof confident alpha. This makes a lot of sense from an evolutionary standpoint. Women want a dominant man, a man with status, a man who knows how to fuck a lot of women. This instinct has historically been suppressed by civilization, but in SWPLand, it is aloud to roam free. That doesn't mean game will work on every single woman, but it will work on most women, and game is all about numbers, options.
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Heroic Mulatto 12 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised if there were death squads operating in the US, at this point.
SaltySeaCaptain(LAOL) 12 years ago

I would bet that it was a FBI sting gone bad. Nothing would surprise me since Fast and Furious went public.
Conrad 12 years ago

I'm going to go fuck your mother today.
AuH20 12 years ago

Yet sex produces life. Ironic, no?
Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago

Sex, and the natural result of it, is the entire purpose of life.
AuH20 12 years ago

Well aren't you just the little mental whore, you mind blower?
AuH20 12 years ago

Mostly your being a bit of pedantic dick. Don't go Tulpa on us. No one likes Tulpa.
Apatheist ?_?? 12 years ago

Tulpa
Irish 12 years ago

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Some call me Tim? 12 years ago

I was on this thought train, but I don't see why they would take him alive if that was the case. Pretty sure they'd want him shut up and dead so as to not expose their incompetence.
John 12 years ago

That is a good point.
VG Zaytsev 12 years ago

Pretty sure they'd want him shut up and dead so as to not expose their incompetence.

Look for him to either die of his injuries or suicide in the near future.

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