Supreme Court Mulls Voting Rights Act, Wonder Bread Saved, Canada Upholds Hate-Speech Laws: P.M. Links

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  Today the Supreme Court heard arguments about whether a handful of Southern states still need to get permission from the federal government to change election laws as mandated in the 1968 Voting Rights Act.

• Wonder Bread (and the rest of Hostess' bread brands) has been saved and will be sold off to Flowers Foods Inc. It turned out nobody else even wanted to bid on it.
• You don't have to be a drug cartel kingpin to be obscenely rich and corrupt in Mexico. You can also be the head of the nation's powerful teachers union. She was arrested Tuesday on charges of embezzling about $160 million to fund her lavish lifestyle.
• No, Japan will not stop whaling, environmental activists.
• Canada's Supreme Court has ruled that the contents of anti-gay pamphlets constitute hate speech.
• Universities are looking to expand the use of drones for research purposes.

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Comments

[Archduke Pantsfan]

A thin list today.
Almost too thin.

[dunkel]

Where's Fist?

[Fist of Etiquette]

No, Japan will not stop whaling, environmental activists.

It's too close to tentacle porn.

[dunkel]

There he is...whew.

[Fist of Etiquette]

These are the worst links in the history of everything. I quit.

[Episiarch]

YOU LIE.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A THREAD DEALING WITH WHALING AND YOU FAIL TO QUOTE MELVILLE? I'M LAUGHING AT THE "SUPERIOR" COMMENTER.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

Tsk tsk, so much infighting, just like Glenn Beck complained about. Let us squeeze ourselves universally into the very milk and sperm of kindness.

[Episiarch]

There he is! There he is! Ah...not so quitting as we were led to believe. So much the better!

[JW]

"Warty, punch up the data charts of FoE's command console"

"The fisting codes?"

"It's all we've got."

[dunkel]

You gotta play the hand you're dealt, don't fucking quit on us now...Pussy.

[wareagle]

playing the role of Ann Coulter today is Dunkel.

[dunkel]

It's the role I was born to play.

Typing that made me nauseous.

[Brandon]

Is his penis big enough to play Coulter?

[dunkel]

*checks nervously*
...
*runs away crying*

[Agammamon]

No need to cry dude, Markey Mark used a prosthetic to portray Dirk Diggler.

[gaijin]

big enough to play

Ann Coulter has a huge void?

[The DerpRider]

I look forward to another season of Whale Wars and laughing at hippies on boats.

[mad libertarian guy]

I look forward to another season of Whale Wars and laughing at hippies on boats.

I can't watch that show at all.

I always leave wondering how the fuck those assholes aren't charged for piracy. Or, even better, killed by the Japanese fisherman.

[mr lizard]

Fouling a ship's screw while in the most remote place on earth is attempted mass murder. Fuck Paul Watson

[Chaucer]

They are now. http://www.guardian.co.uk/envi.....s-us-court

[db]

I once ate live octopus.

[Bananafish]

Isn't it kind of dangerous? I think i saw something about how the suckers could latch on to your throat or something.....is that true? Also, does it taste different from dead octopus? Just curious.

[db]

It was disturbing. It was just a bit of tentacle, but it did latch onto my teeth. I had to chew the hell out of it to kill it and get it to let go. Not something I would do again, given the choice.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Nutzu the Pawnbroker, Romanian gangster, loses lions and bears he allegedly used to intimidate rivals

[Ted S.]

No tigers? Oh my.

[Brett L]

Israeli soldiers in the Miss Universe pageant.

[generic Brand]

Wah-wah-WEE-wah. YHVH did something right when he made Israel His chosen people.

[Bam!]

Russia is the top for military hotness

[db]

Your Balls...I vill Break zem.

[Art Vandelay]

Holy fuck. THOSE are the nominees for Miss Israel?

Those poor, poor jews.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Canada's Supreme Court has ruled that the contents of anti-gay pamphlets constitute hate speech.

WELL IT'S NOT LOVE SPEECH. Or is it...?

[Rich]

The Supreme Court declared that the first two flyers promoted hatred against gays and lesbians but that the remaining two did not rise to that level, although it still deemed them "offensive."

I am offended by hate speech, and i hate offensive speech.

[rts]

This, in a nutshell, is what's wrong with this country:

Although the legislation infringes the rights to free expression and free religion, the court is allowing most of it as reasonable limits.

Oh, well, "reasonable limits" makes it all better to infringe our Charter Rights!

More evidence that our Charter Rights are not worth the paper they're printed on.

[gaijin]

reasonable limits.

Common sense, or sensible, limits one might say. Where I have I heard that?

[John]

The article never says what the flyers actually said.

[Rich]

WHAT!! And go to prison?!

[Archduke Pantsfan]

The Maclean's Magazine post on this had a commenter equating Free Speech with Driving.

orkneyjoe ? 2 hours ago ?
The Right of Speech is similar to as all other Rights is comes at some cost to individual liberty.

The right to drive a car is something were we voluntarily submit ourselves to certain restrictions.

So this Guy needs to be careful because if he comes round my part of Saskatchewan defying the order to behave reasonably he might just find he has a few loose Teeth.

I could then waste the Supreme Courts time and Taxpayer money. By demanding the Right to clobber a jerk who thinks he is outside the application of reasonable restraint by the Rule of Law thereby infringing my right to support the Freedom of individuals to pursue a pleasure they enjoy.

[John]

What a good little brownshirt he is.

[Virginian]

Is it just me or is driving like their go to example of how your freedom needs to be curtailed? They do it with guns, with 4A stuff, pretty much everything.

[John]

It is not just you. And it is what convinced me that we need to eliminate drivers' licenses.

[Virginian]

You know what's fun to do? Write down like four or five words on a piece of paper when you start arguing with a leftist. Then, when they use each and every one of them, you show them the paper.

"Your arguments are stale and illogical, but the greatest sin is that you're boring and predictable."

I usually use "Somalia" "Roads" "All reasonable people." "Modern world" "consensus". It's really funny when they hit all the talking points.

[John]

That is just it. They are so boring. They haven't come up with a new idea in a hundred years. But they think they are so cool and cutting edge. It is just pathetic.

[PapayaSF]

Oh, they come up with new ones. Gay marriage wasn't on the radar 30 years ago, but now it's a huge civil rights crisis, equivalent to slavery.

[neoteny]

Canada has same-sex marriage since 2006. It isn't like gays are discriminated against...

[R C Dean]

Old whining in new bottles, Pappy.

[gaijin]

don't forget:

science, adult conversation, your mom's basement, tea{insert insult}

[Virginian]

Oh yes, "adults" is always fun. Especially when it comes from someone who's a full time student with no job, thus every dollar in his pocket comes from the State or from his parents.

[rts]

This is why our country is so backwards on liberty. The argument this guy makes is quite reminiscent to what we learn about "good governance" in school here.

[Matrix]

It's not a right if you need a license to do it.

[Brandon]

Way to defy those stereotypes, eh, Canada?

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Are our household appliances getting too complicated?

[Episiarch]

Are our journalists getting even stupider?

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

Don't dare them!

[Episiarch]

I think I already did, because they are.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

So then we can blame you. That works for me.

[Episiarch]

You really should. And everything else too.

[Greg F]

Are our journalists getting even stupider?

I think they are, but to work at the Guardian I think you have to be especially stupid.

[Virginian]

Concerned troll is concerned. I really hate these thumbsucking articles.

If you don't want the washing machine with the 12 settings, don't buy it! Of course, the basic ones don't come in brushed stainless steel finish.

[34lbs]

No, when a potato is sold for $500 YOU HAVE TO BUY IT, THAT'S HOW THE MARKET WORKS, NO COMPETITORS WILL SELL CHEAPER POTATOES, when someone produces a shitty product, THERE CAN BE NO ALTERNATIVES OR COMPETITORS, COMPETITORS DONT EXIST, WE NEED TO INTERVENE AND MAKE SURE WASHERS ONLY HAVE ONE SETTING,
'WASH AND SEND POWER USAGE INFORMATION TO ENERGY DEPARTMENT"

[Killazontherun]

The control of my Samsung tv control is the result of not applying sound engineering principles. It doesn't default to either the television setting or the dvr setting as it would if it followed industry standards of defaulting to the dominate device. Instead it defaults to the near blank state of the stereo device. Bizarre. You have to make two binary choices just to get to the input choice of setting up the screen for either the dvd or dvr. I don't have much of a problem beyond annoyance at such a faulty design, but the wife goes nuts every few days trying to use it.

[R C Dean]

I can tell my home entertainment system is lacking, because I don't have a dominate device.

[Killazontherun]

So, you just push the on/off button, you just have to flip it to the right channel at that point? Mine is so backwards, the on/off button is not the first step. You declare a device first, and then you turn on that device before you turn on the tv. If you do it in the wrong order, like turning on the tv first, well, prepare to miss the first few minutes of your show as you step backwards from the initial wrong move.

[Clich? Bandit]

All three things in the lead are things I would like to have...assuming they work.

[jesse.in.mb]

Wasn't Samsung going to roll out Android washers and fridges? Maybe the author would be more comfortable with iOS.

[gaijin]

great, so the government can demand that google hand over data on the contents of my last load?

[34lbs]

Google's purrttyy cool, Apple would have you put in jail for unlocking your washer service and using detergent fro ma different provider.. YOU CAN ONLY USE OMO (or whatever the fuck you have in the USA)...

[Stormy Dragon]

Senate Republicans propose solving the sequester issue by passing The Enabling Act:

http://www.politico.com/story/.....html?hp=l1

[OldMexican]

Senate Republicans propose solving the sequester issue by passing The Enabling Act

They never learn, do they?

How many more of such laws before we start calling the president "Su Excelencia"?

[Stormy Dragon]

And yet Libertarians are the ones who get called pussies who won't stand up to liberals.

[Brandon]

"Solving."

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Mother arrested for attending school assembly topless. with crazy eyes pic.

[dunkel]

holy shit, those eyes....

[Rich]

*Kiss* her, you fool!

[itsnotmeitsyou]

Why is it always someone you wouldn't want to see naked that gets naked? I'd be much more interested in reading that if it were scarlett johansson or something.

[The Immaculate Trouser]

Back when I lived in Germany I was pretty excited to check out some German cuties at the pool since it is German custom to go au naturel. Naturally, it was old, flat-titted German biddies as far as the eye could see.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

I never saw naked hotties at the pool in Germany.
Only old men in speedos.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

The locker rooms were co-ed though

[Killazontherun]

I would hate it there. Normalizing the cheap thrills in life makes them lose their magic. What's the point of being at the lucky right spot to see it when a cute co-workers titty pops out of her sweater while leaning over you in a society where you don't even have to pass dollar bills into a g-string, pay for dinner, or pop a ring on a finger to see it?

[Thane of Whiterun]

I used a co-ed bathroom in Poland once. It freaked me the hell out.

The stalls had much better coverage than the ones I typically see in America, though.

[generic Brand]

The locker rooms were co-ed though

And no one was RAPED?!?!!!?!??!??

[34lbs]

Because all men are rapists Store bought cereal

[34lbs]

So generic brand, are you just as good as wonderbread?

[itsnotmeitsyou]

That's the problem with nudist colonies... no quality control.

[Episiarch]

Wonder Bread (and the rest of Hostess' bread brands) has been saved and will be sold off to Flowers Foods Inc. It turned out nobody else even wanted to bid on it.

Does anyone even eat Wonderbread any more? The store brand is the same shit and cheaper. Why would anyone ever by it?

[Zeb]

I don't know why anyone ever bought it. Even as a kid I thought it was gross.

[Pro Libertate]

Me, too. It's crap.

[C. Anacreon]

You can roll a piece into a tiny little ball though. Try that with your fancy Whole Foods bread.

[protefeed]

Why would anyone ever by it?

1) Make it as cheap as the store brand.

2) Hipster ironic, like drinking PBR.

OT, was in Seattle recently, and they had tallboys of Rainier beer for $1. Non happy hour was $2.

[Jesus H. Christ]

My wife and son love the stuff, and they insist the generic store stuff is NOT the same.

[C. Anacreon]

That covers the bread, which fishes does your family like?

[C. Anacreon]

Does anyone even eat Wonderbread any more? The store brand is the same shit and cheaper. Why would anyone ever by it?

There's one very good reason:
Wonder Bread builds strong bodies twelve ways.

(I would have posted this much earlier today if you could post off the Android mobile site. Are you listening, $100 gift card crowd?)

[Stormy Dragon]

Note to self: do not call 911 if I ever break my leg:

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/0.....-says-yes/

[Coeus]

Why? Unlike the cops, they're actually there to help. They should absolutely be allowed all tools available for self-defense.

[itsnotmeitsyou]

Yeah, not really seeing the problem here. If you or I can carry a gun around for self defense, why would you have a problem with EMTs carrying a gun. They often go into bad areas and I know an EMT that has been shot at for helping a gang member.

[Chris Mallory]

No problem at all as long as they are employed by a private company. Government employees should be barred the use or ownership of any weapon.

[rac3rx]

Damn, harsh. The only EMT stories I ever got were about the 400lb munters getting their thong underwear hung up in their exercise equipment and other crazy up-the-butt adventures.

/small town

[Ted S.]

The only EMT stories I ever got were about the 400lb munters getting their thong underwear hung up in their exercise equipment and other crazy up-the-butt adventures.

I hope you've recovered.

[Matrix]

Paramedics probably have a more dangerous job than cops. I've heard stories from former paramedics about people they worked with getting murdered when responding to calls.

[Episiarch]

What does that possibly have to do with them responding to your emergency? Are you really being this stupid?

[Stormy Dragon]

I was facetiously alluding to the traditional method of treating a horse with a broken leg.

[Episiarch]

OK, that's funny.

[Coeus]

Too much gun control bullshit in the media right now. It's starting to affect our sense of humor.

[itsnotmeitsyou]

Makes much more sense now. Context is like that.

[NeonCat]

I got it. Why no one ran with it as a death panels/care rationing item leaves me feeling? disappointed.

[John]

What do I care if the paramedic has a weapon?

[Brett L]

You can take the girl out of the trailer park...

With her talked-about new bangs in full effect, Rimes wore a ruffled, partially sheer mini-dress, which she paired with thigh-high black leather boots and simple gold jewelry.

Ugh. She was pretty before she starved herself to death and was reanimated.

[C. Anacreon]

Wow, she's 30?? She looks over 50.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Pig tapeworm infested his brain

[Pro Libertate]

That's a House episode.

[Coeus]

Here's a rarity: A feminist tells the truth.

While young feminists may not be taking over Fifth Avenue or the offices of Ladies' Home Journal, we are taking over the internet (and, by the way, we have taken over more than a few streets in our day). It's nearly impossible to go on a liberal-minded blog and be more than a click or two away from a dedicated feminist one.

Feminism has so infiltrated the women's internet that I'm hard-pressed to think of a women's website ? the kind of online properties that have largely replaced traditional women's print magazines ? that doesn't have both a strong undercurrent of feminism and at least one explicitly feminist writer on staff. Many of the top blogs ? Buzzfeed, Mashable, Jezebel, Gawker, Boing Boing ? regularly include feminist content and employ feminist writers. Hundreds of thousands of smaller ones also feature feminist thought.

[wareagle]

so they're moving from victim to oppressor? Of all the things in life, few are more humorless than feminists.

[Virginian]

They're so easy to troll. I bet I could get 15 angry responses on my Facebook by adding two characters to that passage and reposting it.

[mr simple]

Anna Holmes @AnnaHolmes

Seriously, I can think of about 50 young feminist writers whose work has DRAMATICALLY influenced the narrative in America.

Really? I'm going to need you to define dramatically.

[Stormy Dragon]

"With lots of crying, yelling, and door slamming."

[dave b.]

Chicago voted #1 city for pizza. The science is settled!

[Episiarch]

Travel & Leisure?

(sneer)

[itsnotmeitsyou]

Chicago voted #1 city for pizza casserole with a crust. The science is settled!

FTFY

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

Sigh. It's an open-face calzone.

[itsnotmeitsyou]

Damn, how thick are the actual calzones in Chicago?

[Episiarch]

You stole that from me, stealer!

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

Really? I've been saying it for years. Not here though.

[Episiarch]

Ahem.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

It would feel more appropriate to apologize if either of us believed in IP.

In future I will clearly give all credit to the queen of the anarchists.

[Episiarch]

That's better. And I never asked you to apologize.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Little Caesar's here just started advertising a Deep Dish pizza.
As if I needed another reason not to go there.

[dave b.]

I'll never understand the H&R vitriol for deep-dish pizza. The vast majority of pizza places in the country outside of Chicago and a few midwest cities are typical NY-style pizza. It's not like you have to drive around to find the one place that doesn't sell deep-dish.

[Thane of Whiterun]

Because it's not pizza, but people insist on calling it that anyway.

[Invisible Finger]

The vast majority of pizza places IN Chicago serve regular thin-crust pizza.

I would say there are probably only FOUR good deep-dish pizza places in Chicago. The original Gino's, the original Uno and Due, and Louisa's in Crestwood (run by a former baker at Due's). I haven't had Malnati's enough to judge. And I'm sure there are some neighborhood exceptions.

Most deep dish is terrible because they use the exact same ingredients for their deep dish as their thin. This is completely wrong, the sauce especially is supposed to be different; that's why the good deep dish places are the one's operated by former bakers at the original Uno. And if the original Uno has turned into a chain-run store then it probably isn't worth making the trip. I don't think the chain Uno's are necessarily bad, but they are a far cry from the original.

[C. Anacreon]

Long-time Chicagoan here -- though moved away 27 years ago. You are exactly on-target with this post. Used to live right across the street from the original Gino's, in all its initials-carved-in-the-walls glory.

[34lbs]

I once worked at an italian restaurant/cafe.. they did the whole fucking flatbase "gormet" crap and a bunch of other dudes had opened a "chicago style deep dish" pizzeria.. i tried it, against my bosses orders... and fuck yeah Chicago style is the best loaf of bread covered with disguisting looking but awesome fucking tasting toppings ever.. SO fuck y'all, i worked at an "authentic" italian place and they couldn't fucking top (pun intended) chicago style pizza. It's the shit.. especially when high

[Clich? Bandit]

jeebus h christo here we go.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Recommended lunches are 'unrealistic'

[Rich]

The Heart Foundation is suggesting to low-income parents that they send their kids off to school each morning with cottage cheese pita pockets, celery and hummus, sushi, couscous, leftover chop suey, and chickpea curry.

Also, fried chicken!

[Episiarch]

Holy shit these fucking busybodies are tone-deaf beyond belief.

[db]

Low Income != Poor when EBT is there to help!

*Brought to you by Americans for a More Expensive Today and Tomorrow.

[Virginian]

OMFG there is nothing wrong with a sandwich, an apple, and a bag of chips. It's a perfectly healthy and nutritious lunch.

Fucking busybodies and snobs.

[mr simple]

Ed Hodgkinson, principal of Lakeview School in Masterton, said getting parents to make a sandwich with a spread was a success story in itself and was all the school asked of many families.

Is this a community of retards that they don't even know how to make a sandwich?

[Brett L]

This Dennis Tito Mars mission is right out of Heinlein.

Word is that the two astronauts would be a married couple. At least he learned not to send 3 married couples.

[Coeus]

I think the best option would be two pairs of siblings, married to each other's sibling, but that would be a recruiting nightmare.

[Brett L]

Fuck the potato gun, we've got a pot cannon.

[Adam.]

The system can determine how many times a user has gazed at the ad, their sex, and how long they've been watching the ad.

Then wife installs app on the platform to calculate how long you check out the boobs on the tv characters. "you looked at boobs for 3 hours watching tv this week, asshole!"

[Adam.]

DAMNIT, forgot the link!

[Adam.]

I'm fired. Intel's creepy face-tracking takes cues from 'Minority Report' ads

[Brett L]

And finally, black hole observed to spin near its relativistic limit, aka a significant fraction of c.

According to Risaliti and Harrison's team's research, NGC 1365's black hole is spinning at a breakneck rate 84 percent of its theoretical maximum

[John]

http://www.helenspage.com/p/lo.....tive-r/778

Sugar Free call your office.

[dave b.]

Must be set during the years 1773-1787, preferably earlier on this timeline

It's going to be difficult to work in the adventures of butt-boy Ezra and Nobel-Prize Winner Dr. Paul Krugman Ph.D in that timeline.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

Low to moderate sensuality that moves the story forward

This is going to be a problem for SugarFree.

[John]

Low to moderate is a relative term.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Here's my pitch:

The Boston Bukkake Massacre

As Colonial resentment toward the British increases, Governor Thomas Hutchinson is faced with the ardous task of placing Boston under curfew. Due to a shortage of manpower, Hutchinson secretly organizes a squadron of Redcoats who are actually young women in drag. This group of soldiers are tasked with protecting the Old State House. On March 5th, a mob consisting of "a motley rabble of saucy boys, negros and molattoes, Irish teagues and outlandish jack tarrs.*" begins a protest outside the State House. The women can see in the eyes of the mob that they are angry... and horny.

*A John Adams quote

[Killazontherun]

Reminds me for some reason of the beer I will be having soon if a trade goes down the way it is suppose to, the best named concoction of them all, in my opinion, Hell's Black Intelligencer:

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26/62891

While on the subject, the evening offering to Bacchus:

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11036/51153

I wasn't even aware of this brewery until a few weeks ago. Amazing enough, not only is it fifteen miles away from me, but it is on 4th St a region for which I was a temporary lord.

[Whahappan?]

Actually, the best named beer-like concoction is Hacker-Pschorr Double Dark Animator

[gaijin]

50,000 words of tight prose...hmmm

[Thane of Whiterun]

Apple is (allegedly) trying to destroy the internet

It could just be that they're using an overzealous filter, though.

[OldMexican]

I just don't think that Apple is really... wait, what? They want to erase whaaaat??? Why, that's outrageous! How dare they???

[PapayaSF]

This is pretty ridiculous, because "barely legal teens" are, by definition, legal.

[Matrix]

Dude arrested for following Biden's advice

Wonder if Biden will pay his legal fees.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Why a one-room West Virginia library runs a $20,000 Cisco router

The routers in question were purchased as part of a much larger grant from the Broadband Technology Opportunities Program (BTOP), which passed out several billion dollars to help upgrade broadband networks across America as part of President Obama's initial stimulus package in 2009. West Virginia's cash was meant to wire up the many "community anchor institutions" such as libraries, schools, police, and hospitals across the state with Internet access delivered over fiber-optic lines. As part of the project, the state also had to purchase some sort of router for each institution. Instead of "right-sizing" the routers for their intended destinations, the state group of officials charged with implementing the grant decided they would make things easy by purchasing the exact same router and installing it everywhere, even in the most rural locations they planned to reach.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

Austerity! Government services have been cut to the bone, I tell you. To the bone!

[Virginian]

So every dime I paid in taxes last year, they just casually wasted it because right sizing the routers is too much work.

[Brett L]

Right sizing the routers would have been stopping by Walmart and buying a $70 Netgear router. This is just... Holy shit. I could run a 40 person IT shop with several servers on that thing.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Progress: Germany replacing Nuclear with Coal

[NeonCat]

Look, coal is *natural*. It is the original carbon sequestration, and burning it only continues the process.

[OldMexican]

Re: NeonCat,

Look, coal is *natural*.

And radioactive.

Face it, the Germans lost all sense of irony here.

[Stormy Dragon]

Since when has Germany ever had a sense of irony?

[Killazontherun]

After you lose a lot of wars, you get one of those, right?

[Zeb]

Well, you never know when a giant tsunami is going to hit Germany.

[mad libertarian guy]

Fairfax teachers simply too overwhelmed to continue.

Hundreds of teachers expressed frustration and despair at a town hall meeting with Fairfax County school board members Monday night, detailing what many educators described as terrible morale in the workforce.

During the event, teachers gave testimony to the school board members and provided vignettes about how their workload and objectives set by the school administration was affecting their daily lives. Many of those who spoke to the school board members called for a shorter work day, pay raises or more time off to compensate for their packed schedules.

I don't know how they do it. I mean, the 7 hour workdays (which include their lunch and planning period), 3 months off for summer, various other long breaks in the midst of the school year (like 2 weeks at Xmas, Spring Break, midwinter break, etc), coupled with generous salaries and benefits packages, I have no idea how they can work.

[Episiarch]

Being a lazy worthless parasite is very time-consuming.

[OldMexican]

Re: Episiarch,

Being a lazy worthless parasite is very time-consuming.

Not to mention tremendously stressful. Those poor, poor souls...

[Coeus]

the 7 hour workdays (which include their lunch and planning period)

For most schools, most of what you speak of is true. But there is no school where a teacher leaves before 8 or 9 hours. You've got stuff you have to do when you aren't having to watch the kids. The "planning hour" is also tutoring and parent consultation hour. You rarely get to lesson plans or grading.

[Brett L]

This is just not true of my friends' experience teaching in elementary school or high school. You might pull duty once a week before or after school. But they claim -- neither of them being particularly anti-teacher -- that most teachers roll up less than 15 minutes before class and leave with the bell at least 3 days a week. That seems more in line with my own experience. Also, the tutoring and parent conferences in no way ever occupied even one planning hour a week for them. Kids just don't come to office hours in middle school, dude.

[Coeus]

It's the way it worked when I was teaching JH.

[mad libertarian guy]

This is just not true of my friends' experience teaching in elementary school or high school.

Nor of mine when I taught high school.

[Coeus]

I usually got one day a week like that. Used it to run errands. But other than that, I rarely left before 4:30 or 5. And when I had a subject which was used for "home room" in the mornings, I always had to be there at least 45 minutes early for the bus kids. (Pulling morning duty in the cafeteria was earlier still).

[Zeb]

I've seen the full range really. My mother was a teacher and she was at the school from 8-5 at least every day and usually had more work to do at home in the evening. As a student, I saw some teachers leave when the students did and others who regularly stayed 'till 5 or 6 in the evening.

I think people overgeneralize a lot about how hard teachers work and how well they get compensated. It varies quite a lot.

[Coeus]

A lot of it is where you prefer to grade. I did it at school instead of home to avoid getting ash or spilling whiskey on the papers.

[Coeus]

Kids just don't come to office hours in middle school, dude.

Then they aren't making themselves accessible enough to the struggling students. It usually takes some cajoling to get them to come in for tutoring, but it usually pays off for the kid relatively quickly.

[Thane of Whiterun]

I think you're taking it as granted that most teachers actually attempt to do their jobs.

[Coeus]

Probably. But the school I worked (which I have no way of knowing whether it is representative) tended to assign more after and before school duty to those that seemed to have the time. As a result, there were very few teachers leaving early more than once a week. Hell, my "lunch hour" was 25 minutes. Typical day was 7:15 to 4:30.

[mad libertarian guy]

Typical day was 7:15 to 4:30.

Even if that's true, teachers get MONTHS of vacation time a year, plus generous bennies.

[Coeus]

Agreed. That's why I said:

For most schools, most of what you speak of is true.

[Agammamon]

"But there is no school where a teacher leaves before 8 or 9 hours. "

That's what most people call a short work-day. Let's not forget that they still get huge amounts of time off during the school year *and* a 3ish month break in the summer.

And let's face it - after the 2nd or third year of teaching a subject you shouldn't need a whole lot of planning time. By this point your lesson plan should be pretty well ironed out.

[Coeus]

All true. I'm not against the general sentiment, just wanted to correct what I believed to be an error.

[Greg F]

I do quite a bit of contract work at schools. It has been my experience that in less than 15 minutes after dismissal the parking lots are pretty empty.

[Coeus]

Might that be because of the huge amount of support staff? No need for principals, secretarys, detention monitors, weightlifting coachs, teacher's aids, cafeteria workers or security officers to stick around after dismissal.

[Greg F]

Might that be because of the huge amount of support staff?

Not a chance.

[itsnotmeitsyou]

My own mother is one of those types of teachers. She's always complaining about being underpaid and overworked. I keep asking her what other job she could possibly get that she only works 183 days a year and still gets paid almost $70k. She's only been a teacher for about 6 years, so it's not like she has had 30+ years to work up to a high salary, she just gets it because that's what the union says they have to pay a teacher with a masters degree.

[Coeus]

Please let this be a lie.

WASHINGTON ? Bowing to pressure from within their own party, House Republican leaders Tuesday night appeared to clear a path for House passage of the Senate's broadly bipartisan reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act.

[Brett L]

Nope. Violence against women will soon be legal again!

[Agammamon]

Not just legal - subsidized!

[OldMexican]

House Republican leaders Tuesday night appeared to clear a path for House passage of the Senate's broadly bipartisan reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act.

Because if you're not for it, it means you're in favor of husbands pounding their wives and daughters into pulp and boyfriends slapping their girlfriends and employers paying less to women employees than their male counterparts and...

... hmmm ...

[KPres]

First the women, then what, the men? Pretty soon, violence against ANYBODY is going to be illegal.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

So this James the Giant Slayer movie is a real thing?

[Episiarch]

Unfortunately it seems so.

[jettblackpope]

"The one guy I would blow based upon who he is is Ewan McGregor."

[mad libertarian guy]

robc might be given a helping hand because a large corporation (full disclosure: my wife works for the parent company of Kentucky Ale) pandering to the state for favors.

A bill aimed at helping Alltech's Lexington Brewing and Distilling Company in downtown Lexington won approval Tuesday from the state House on a 67 to 26 vote.

House Bill 315 would allow malt brewers to obtain a license for tasting tours. Rep. Bob Damron, D-Nicholasville, said Alltech's beer production, particularly its Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale, has grown too large to qualify for a tasting permit.

The bill would allow Alltech to apply for a souvenir malt beverage license. Patrons would be limited to 16 ounces of beer per day.

[robc]

That wont help me for a number of years. Breweries under 25k? 15k?, I forget the limit, could already do this.

Alltech was 14900 in 2011. They might be pushing 25k now.

Personally, I think it was a stupid rule to cap it at 25k. But there are different licensing for microbrewery vs brewery.

[mad libertarian guy]

Personally, I think it was a stupid rule to cap it at 25k. But there are different licensing for microbrewery vs brewery.

Gotta create the room for pandering somewhere.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

New TLC show features broken goons, somehow forgets to include Bronies:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....d-toy.html

[John]

http://www.washingtonian.com/b.....w-book.php

More than a decade after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, a set of extraordinary and secretive surveillance programs conducted by the National Security Agency has been institutionalized, and they have grown.

These special programs are conducted under the code name Ragtime, and are divided into several subcomponents, according to the new book Deep State: Inside the Government Secrecy Industry, by Marc Ambinder and D.B. Grady. (I purchased a copy this morning.)

The authors, both journalists who cowrote a previous book about special operations in the military, have dug deep into the code names and operational nitty gritty of the NSA's secretive and hugely controversial surveillance programs, and they've come up with impressive new details.

Remember, we had to elect Obama because Bush was spying on us.

[Matrix]

Mass frat pays for gender realignment surgery

Their money; their choice. Insurance providers should not be forced to pay unless they agreed to at the beginning. And tax payers definitely should not be on the hook.

[db]

There is just so much to consider here.

[Alack]

Is "realignment" the preferred term now? I thought it was "reassignment", but I suppose that implies a higher-power "assigning" a gender, which you then reject (the horror!).

It's so hard to remain up-to-date on shit like this.

[Stormy Dragon]

They weren't making him a girl, they were just straightening a kink that made him veer to the left if he took his hands off the wheel.

[Eduard van Haalen]

"It's symbolic of our struggle against oppression!"

"Symbolic of his struggle against reality."

[Somalian Road Corporation]

I personally suffer from cyborg dysphoria disorder: even as a child and as far back as I can remember, I've felt out of place in my own body and set apart from society. I realized that deep down inside, I was truly a remorselessly efficient half-man, half-metal killing machine, and I'd never be able to achieve happiness and conform to my idealized body image without the government spending no less than six million dollars on weaponized cybernetic prostheses.

Please write your Congresspersons encouraging them to support official recognition of CDD as not only worthy of taxpayer dollars but also protected class status.

[NeonCat]

http://notalwaysright.com/plea.....imes/27508

[Warty]

Oh, it's a FTM surgery. I had assumed it was MTF. I'm not sure which makes less sense.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

For me, it's yet another entry in the file of "things that wouldn't bother me in the slightest unless I'm expected to pay for it".

[Warty]

My first thought was to wonder if all the brothers were going to bang their new sister after the surgery. Now I wonder if they all banged their brother before the surgery.

[Eduard van Haalen]

"Don't you oppress me!"

[Brett L]

Pssh. They're paying for this because its totally not gay to fuck one of your brothers if he used to be chick.

[Alack]

Question: How do people here feel about ethnicity-reassignment surgery? Surely, there are people who live among us who believe that they were put in the wrong ethnic group, that deep-down they are of African or Asian descent rather than European. Is it acceptable for these people to receive cosmetic surgery to alter their features to more closely resemble their identified-ethnicity rather than their birth-ethnicity and, if so, should the government be required to classify them as their identified-ethnicity on official paperwork? Would calling these people by their identified-ethnicity be proper?

[Libertymike]

Answer:

Groupthink is bad for your health.

[Alack]

True. I'm just curious as to how people feel about ethnic "identity" as a malleable concept as compared to the more widely-accepted malleable gender "identity".

Mostly navel-gazing, I suppose, but I FUCKING LOVE NAVELS.

[Brandon]

South Park did it.

[Rich]

Bernanke Says Higher Rates May Signal Stronger Economy

So *that's* why the Dow is up 175!

Sheesh, the guy pulls down $180K. Can't he be more certain?

[OldMexican]

Re: Rich,

Bernanke Says Higher Rates May Signal Stronger Economy

Is "Diarrhea" Ben finally starting to lose his nerve?

[Alack]

Well, that is more or less one the point of (some) New-Keynesian models. The natural rate of consumption/interest in the economy is anchored at a point in the future (a concession to the existing disequilibrium, possible sticky prices, time-lag, etc), the idea being that Fed policy can have an effect in the short- to medium-term, but that long-term effects tend toward equilibrium. As such, policy is not made to get us back on to normal levels, but rather to shift high interest rates closer to the present by over-encouraging consumption/investment with low interest rates to pull us back over normal levels before allowing too-high rates to discourage excessive growth. Of course, that requires that the Fed commit itself to growth-slowing interest rates until we return to "normal" growth of ~3%, which would be difficult from a political standpoint.

John Cochrane has a good post on this here.

[Coeus]

Dammit, I missed wear a hoodie day.

Also known as "beat a mestizo then pretend he's white" day.

[OldMexican]

I wore a hoodie... it just gave me a hottie in my headie and made me look like a foolie.

[db]

Universities are looking to expand the use of drones for research purposes.

There're a lot of dorm windows to peek into. You know, to enforce the alcohol code.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

That's not a beach!

[NeonCat]

"How dare people vote for a beach they've been to instead of one they've never heard of!"

But seriously, "best of" anything is incredibly subjective.

[Rich]

Unlike the anything "Capitol of the World".

[Apatheist ?_??]

I've actually been to Rabbit Beach on Lampedusa. Place is pretty sweet.

[mad libertarian guy]

I've been to Lopes Mendes Beach in Brazil.

Place is a fucking paradise. I went in the winter (July) of 2000 and besides my wife, her 2 cousins, and I, there was 1 other person on the entire beach. And she was hot as fuck and topless.

[Thane of Whiterun]

wrt the Flowers-Hostess deal, here's some choice derp from HuffPo:

The Right's proprietary food supplements are saved!

I won't buy this product unless it's workers are covered by a union contract.

My husband used to work for Big Bear Bakery and Flowers Bakery bought them out first thing they did was bust the Union and and within 3 months shut down the bakery!!! I Love Hostess Products but I hate Flowers Bakery they destroy more than they help!!!!

Note that widely reported wrt Hostess's demise was that the industry is over capacity.

Um, ew. There is perfectly fine organic sprouted flourless bread for reasonable prices at your local stores these days. Why anyone would eat these bleached, pesticide-rich foods is beyond me.

This is an ingenious steal at $360 million. By this time next year Wonder will be the only brand of bread that people will be able to afford

Terrible investment. You just bought a giant pile of GMO poison. The brand is now obsolete, given what we know about nutrition and chronic illness. Anyone who would regularly eat Hostess in the current GMO-infested incarnation is welcoming sickness into their lives.

WONDER BREAD SAVED!

This is good news for Monsanto, the trans-fat industry and Big Pharma.

The best thing about Wonder Bread is the colorful bag it comes in.

[John]

There is perfectly fine organic sprouted flourless bread

What the fuck? My god these people are freaks.

[NeonCat]

Your words are hurtful. You probably go home and roll around in GMO food for kicks.

[John]

I am going to have a burger and fries.

[NeonCat]

Monster!

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

The best thing about Wonder Bread is the colorful bag it comes in.

That part is true.

[Thane of Whiterun]

I've never had it.

[jesse.in.mb]

Fact: Wonder Bread is awesome because you can mash it into a dense ball and throw it at people. Totally inedible, but handy as a projectile, and useless at protecting your hands from sandwich fixin's though.

[protefeed]

Wonder Bread is decent as an Edible Mass Product With Calories To Keep You Alive. "Food" is perhaps an overstrong description.

[Alack]

So glad that I'm not the only person who did this. That shit had good ballistics.

[Thane of Whiterun]

How dare they offer jobs back under different terms:

I was speaking with a former Hostess driver just this morning. He told me that Flowers Foods is not going to be hiring back Hostess delivery drivers for anything. No, they are going to SELL them their old jobs back as private contractors., basically a franchise deal on their old routes. The buy-in price that is currently on the table is an average $110,000 per route. They will first be offered to the old Hostess drivers who had the best records of performance. If they don't buy them, then they will be offered to the old Hostess drivers who had lower level performance levels. If they don't buy them, they will be advertised to RSR drivers from other, like companies (Frito Lay, Coke, etc.). If they STILL don't sell, then they will be offered for sale to the general public. I magine the union is bouncing off the walls on this one. As well, if you know anything about franchise methods and/or route sales, you can be sure that this one is a total sucker's deal. Flowers Foods is, basically, testing the water by sticking other people's toes in first to take the risk. No matter what, if anybody's gonna lose, it certainly isn't going to be Flowers Foods. I wouldn't touch that deal with a 10-foot twinkie.

I wonder if it is the same owners. Slick way to drop a lot of debt.

[rac3rx]

Well the union rules with the drivers were one of the major factors that drove Hostess into bankruptcy. The union contract work rules required Twinkies and Wonder Bread (same company), to deliver the 2 products to stores in separate trucks, and truck drivers weren't allowed to load or unload their trucks.

Those jobs were assigned to "loaders" who couldn't even travel in the trucks with the drivers, they had to arrive/depart in separate vehicles. Oh, and the Twinkies "loaders" and the Wonder Bread "loaders" couldn't be the same people either, so if you were a Twinkie "loader", you couldn't also be a Wonder Bread "loader".

This is the kind of shit that unions do to companies. There is no way I would run a business in a union state.

[Thane of Whiterun]

I won't buy any of these products if they are not made in the USA.

And the union is broken. All the big corporate players win. All the workers lose. No Twinkees or Wonderbreads in my future.

As soon as they can hire enough under-the-table migrant labor.

Actually, my "industry source" told me a couple years back when they bought a plant in Dallas that one of the preconditions was that the then-owners would fire all the illegals.

[mad libertarian guy]

It looks like someone is trying to funnel funds from the trough to the good folks at UK. A bill to legalize industrial hemp in KY was changed last minute (after having passed one house of the legislature) to ensure that UK would get the privilege of being able to "study" hemp growth in KY before farmers could grow it.

The chairman of the state House Agriculture Committee plans to ask for major changes to a hemp bill, including calling for hemp field trials by the University of Kentucky rather than leaving it up to farmers.

Rep. Tom McKee, D-Cynthiana, said Tuesday that he plans to call for a committee substitute Wednesday morning that he said would be "more aggressive than the bill itself."

[. . .]

Hornback's Senate Bill 50 would set up a licensing framework for Kentucky farmers to grow hemp if federal restrictions are eased or if the Drug Enforcement Administration allows a waiver for the state to grow it.

[. . .]

"We'd like to see the UK experiment station get some in the ground this year," McKee said. "We're looking for an aggressive study, including some site visits to Canada. ... We very much support the industrial-hemp effort."

Nothing says "support of hemp cultivation" like making sure that those who would grow it can't grow it until researchers get fed from the trough and paid vacations.

[Generic Stranger]

But think of the potential for hijinks as the urbanized Brits come into contact with rural Kentuckians. They could make it into a reality show. Think of the children lazy TV producers!

[Dr. Frankenstein]

The sequester hits France early.

French unemployment rate is at 15 year high.

http://www.france24.com/en/201.....-year-high

[OldMexican]

French unemployment rate is at 15 year high.

Which is "Business as usual" in the country where nobody works...

[NeonCat]

Are they going to sue that tire guy over it?

Nah, just have a strike. That way the unemployed won't feel so "othered".

[Art Vandelay]

Taxes will be increased until employment rates improve!

[Matrix]

Teen trying to leave gang is shot 15 times

AND SURVIVES!!

[NeonCat]

"Goddamn magazine capacity limits!"

[Rich]

LOL

[Brett L]

The gang's motto is reportedly: You're in until you die.

It sure as hell isn't: Shoot straight, you bastards, don't make a mess of it.

[NeonCat]

"Fuckin' QUITTERS!"

[Agammamon]

The real question is - does this let him out of the gang?

[Sidd Finch]

http://www.thedrawplay.com/?page_id=477

British versions of NFL logos. Features plenty of monocles.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

+1 top hat

[Episiarch]

The Stillers and Jets ones are great.

[Warty]

My team gets three, one of which is a toilet. I AM THE CHAMPION.

[Episiarch]

Well, they certainly aren't, so I guess you deserve something.

[Warty]

They're not even the best at being the worst. Fucking Lions.

[Warty]

Nick Cave and birds

Greeks and Satan

[mad libertarian guy]

The fuck, dude?

[Warty]

I'm going to culture you heathens if it kills you.

[Thane of Whiterun]

Not all of us like being treated as a petri dish, Warty.

[mad libertarian guy]

I'm going to culture you heathens if it kills you.

Culture this!

[mad libertarian guy]

Fuck! Foiled by copyright restrictions!

Go here to hear the whole thing.

[Brett L]

I will be hopefully seeing Nick Cave in Austin in about 2 weeks. SXSW, so I'll be standing in fucking line for hours for anyone remotely famous.

[Warty]

Try not to murder anyone. Unless they look really stupid, I guess.

[Brett L]

Went two years ago. Fell into a comfortable rhythm of eating breakfast tacos, napping, eating some more and starting to drink beer about 2pm. By the time the shows start, I'm usually in a chili-gravy and beer inspired halo of don't-give-a-shit. Even hipsters don't bother me. I learned how to ignore attention starved little fucks when they were Drag Worms.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Morrisey has no joy

[Warty]

I was disappointed with last night's Jimmy Kimmel Show wherein our smiling host managed to ridicule depression (70% of Americans have experienced depression according to the National Institute of Mental Health). He then found time to ridicule healthy eating (the obesity epidemic in the U.S. costs $147 billion per year in medical expenditure), and he also ridiculed the notion that animals should be entitled to the possession of their own lives. Furthermore, he found time to jokingly promote gun-ownership ? hugely amusing for the parents at Sandy Hook, no doubt. He also promoted his special guests Duck Dynasty ? who kill beings for fun. None of the above issues are, of course, as important as Jimmy Kimmel himself, who has finally revealed his show to have an overwhelming loss of meaning. Tune in and relive the intellectual fog of the 1950s.

Delicious.

[Dunphy (the real one)]

"meat is murder" - Morrissey
"if meat is murder, are eggs rape?" - PJ ORourke

[NeonCat]

WTF does the whiny limey know about the "intellectual fog of the 1950s"?

[Dunphy (the real one)]

i love the smiths, and especially johnny marr (a huge influence on my guitar playing), but jesus christ, morrissey can be (is) a whiney ass bitch.

and he, like a lot of reasonably smart guys (like reasonoids who constantly bemoan dumb merkuns derp derp) love to spout about their alleged intellectual superiority

[Hyperion]

That's Murikans, learn to spell, dumbass.

[Coeus]

And they accuse "austerians" of putting their heads in the sand.

No, the 90 Percent Debt Threshold Hasn't Been Proven

JAN 28, 2013Mike Konczal
The deficit hawks at the Washington Post editorial board are worried. They are worried that the deficit is falling and the debt-to-GDP ratio is leveling off as a result of the numerous cuts and tax increases implemented over the past two years. Liberals know this and are starting to push back, either claiming that the deficit is coming down too quickly or arguing that the main medium-term deficit issues are taken care of and we should focus more on unemployment and other non-budget issues while implementing Obamacare reforms well.

???

[Virginian]

What the fuck is that guy smoking?

[Warty]

No, dude, reducing the third derivative of spending is totally a spending cut.

[Alack]

Non-defense discretionary spending as a % of GDP has fallen in recent years (partly due to the fact that we're not doing Stimulus spending now), but that doesn't seem to be what they're talking about. Maybe they're just stupid?

[OldMexican]

Universities are looking to expand the use of drones for research purposes.

Especially to research private pools and other places where topless females gather.

[NeonCat]

Ha! Expect drones to monitor students to make sure they follow speech and sexual behavior codes.

[Eduard van Haalen]

"As part of their long-term same-sex relationship, Kelly Goudschaal and Marci Frazier had two children via artificial insemination. They signed a co-parenting contract, but that agreement came under fire once the couple separated.

"Frazier appealed in court for parenting rights, but Goudschaal opposed the motion, arguing that Frazier was an "unrelated third party." Ultimately, the court ruled against Goudschaal and awarded both women parenting rights, although Frazier had no biological ties to the children.

"Custody cases involving same-sex couples are clogging courts all over the nation, pitting the desires of same-sex couples against true well-being of the children....

"[Robert Oscar Lopez says:] "Children raised by the parents who conceived them enter life as free human beings, endowed with a paternal and maternal lineage...Children raised by same-sex couples enter life as property acquired through money. ? Is anyone interested in defending children's rights to a father and a mother?""

http://www.worldmag.com/2013/0.....dy_battles

[Brandon]

Robert Oscar Lopez is an asshole. Calling that idiotic load of shit a "philosophical problem" is offensive to the field of philosophy.

[PapayaSF]

Just make sure you are not eating or drinking, and then check out this picture of Elba Esther Gordillo, the corrupt Mexican teacher's union head. I would say that she did not get her money's worth for that plastic surgery.

[Libertymike]

Hideously fugly.

[Brandon]

She looks like a Mexican Joan Rivers.

[PapayaSF]

She's headed for Jocelyn Wildenstein territory.

[Coeus]

Hehe
Democrats complain about debt clock.

Waters asked that the debt clock not be on display whenever Democrats spoke, Hensarling said during the hearing.

"At the request of the ranking member, the national debt clock will not be put on the screens during Democratic time," said Hensarling, a Texas Republican.

[NeonCat]

Not only it should be displayed but every member should have a sub display that shows how much their bills and votes contributed to the total.

[Alack]

Related: I found this graph when searching for discretionary spending levels. $245,000,000,000 difference over 6 years.

Just a reminder why you should never take politicians' pledges seriously.

[Coeus]

And Farkers almost unanimously agree.

[Thane of Whiterun]

SO including yesterday, this is the second time someone has non-ironically included a White House graphic in their post as evidence.

Holy shit.

[MJGreen]

The debt clock only looks at half the ledger. I've never liked it as a metric and pay it close to zero heed. When you do your checkbook, do you just look at how much money is going out, or do you look at money coming in as well? Because the debt clock does the former.

So... this guy doesn't know what 'debt' is?

[Hyperion]

I agree with them, it should be taken down, and then shoved up their ass side-ways.

[The Late P Brooks]

Children raised by same-sex couples enter life as property acquired through money.

WTF?

[lap83]

"You don't have to be a drug cartel kingpin to be obscenely rich and corrupt in Mexico. You can also be the head of the nation's powerful teachers union. She was arrested Tuesday on charges of embezzling about $160 million to fund her lavish lifestyle."

Why does Reason hate education so much?

[Hyperion]

They call that stealing when government employees do that in Mexico?

Here they call that having an important high level job.

[lap83]

Speaking of teachers with dubious integrity......

http://gma.yahoo.com/californi.....12679.html

[Hyperion]

Well, you see right there, it's proof that we don't pay teachers enough.

Poor teacher having to steal for a living, what has this country come to?

The teacher is the victim here!

[Heroic Mulatto]

I'd hit it.

[db]

I know a girl who looks just like her--super cute.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I'd hit that. You'd never know she was born a dude.

[Coeus]

Wait, weren't you one of those talking about how anal sex is gross the other day?

[Coeus]

Meant to be a reply to heroic mulatto.

[Heroic Mulatto]

She has a mouth, you know.

[Coeus]

Seeing as how "hit it" denotes vigorous sex, you seem to be saying that you would choke-fuck that be-penised teenager.

[Brandon]

Can't believe nobody has posted this yet:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....ead_module

[Coeus]

I did yesterday. There was much discussion.

[R C Dean]

Wait, the heck with the lions and bears. He rode away from prison on a black stallion?

[NeonCat]

It was a gelding but his balls are so big they thought it was a stallion.