Will Big Food Corporations Give In to Activist Anti-Scientific Demands to Label Biotech Crops?
The New York Times is running an article today that reports a recent meeting in Washington, D.C. organized by the Meridian Institute at which executives from PepsiCo, ConAgra, and Wal-Mart met with anti-biotech activists to discuss labeling foods made with ingredients derived from biotech crops. The meeting was held in the wake of the defeat of California's scientifically ridiculous Proposition 37 that would have required such labeling. The big food and beverage processors and sellers are feeling harassed by various new state biotech labeling initiatives being pushed by activists. As the Times reports:
Instead of quelling the demand for labeling, the defeat of the California measure has spawned a ballot initiative in Washington State and legislative proposals in Connecticut, Vermont, New Mexico and Missouri, and a swelling consumer boycott of some organic or "natural" brands owned by major food companies…
"The big food companies found themselves in an uncomfortable position after Prop. 37, and they're talking among themselves about alternatives to merely replaying that fight over and over again," said Charles Benbrook, a research professor at Washington State University who attended the meeting.
I was somewhat perplexed by the Times' rather bland identification of Benbrook, who is a well-known anti-biotech advocate and the chief scientist for the Organic Center. Never mind.
In any case, as the Times reports, the big corporations, in order to avoid expensive state-by-state fights to defend science against activist disinformation campaigns, are doing what they always do: ask the Feds to come in and impose a uniform requirement for labels. But is labeling a foregone conclusion? Perhaps not. In a legal backgrounder, [PDF] the Washington Legal Foundation, which describes its mission as strengthening free enterprise, concludes:
[T]he federal government has squarely rejected arguments that GM foods are unsafe or that labeling of GM foods should be required or is appropriate. States that enact statutes that single out GM products or producers for adverse treatment – burdening their operations through labels or liability rules or barring their operations altogether – may find these laws to be unenforceable as contrary to federal law.
Are foods made with ingredients from biotech crops safe? Every independent scientific body that has ever reviewed the issue has concluded that they are. For example, in 2012 the American Medical Association issued a statement on labeling biotech foods that concluded:
Bioengineered foods have been consumed for close to 20 years, and during that time, no overt consequences on human health have been reported and/or substantiated in the peer-reviewed literature…
Despite strong consumer interest in mandatory labeling of bioengineered foods, the FDA's science-based labeling policies do not support special labeling without evidence of material differences between bioengineered foods and their traditional counterparts. The Council supports this science-based approach, and believes that thorough pre-market safety assessment and the FDA's requirement that any material difference between bioengineered foods and their traditional counterparts be disclosed in labeling, are effective in ensuring the safety of bioengineered food.
It is no more reasonable to vote on the safety of biotech crops than it is to cast ballots on the reality of biological evolution or the safety of vaccines. Maybe food companes will end up following the example of food processors whose products "may contain nuts." Simply slap a label on everything saying: "This product may contain ingredients from modern biotech crops." Pretty soon for most consumers such a label will go in one eye and out the other with no effect on their purchasing decisions.
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The ridiculous left loses out to actual science! Yay freedom!
Furst!
It's cute that you think something as inconsequential as mere facts will stop them.
What are you talking about? Consensus is the new science!
Since there is a consensus among anti-biotech activists that GM food is bad, then it's bad!
The science is settled!
Remember, it's the eebil Republicans who are anti-science.
"foods made with ingredients derived from anti-biotech crops"
I think you mean biotech crops, aka GMOs.
T: Fixed. Thanks very much.
They are natural crops who object to having to compete with artificially enhanced ones.
a recent meeting in Washington, D.C. organized by the Meridian Institute at which executives from PepsiCo, ConAgra, and Wal-Mart met with anti-biotech activists to discuss labeling foods made with ingredients derived from anti-biotech crops.
WTF SRSLY?
Simply slap a label on everything saying: "This product may contain ingredients from modern biotech crops." Pretty soon for most consumers such a label will go in one eye and out the other with no effect on their purchasing decisions.
Seriously. Isn't that fact that douchebags get to slap the "organic" label on their food and feel all smug about charging more for it good enough? I bet if some companies started voluntarily slapping "GMO" labels on food and charging $.25 less for it they would see sales go crazy.
When I lived in Wisconsin in early to mid 90s, this was happening, only with BGH milk.
It was 10 cents cheaper per gallon.
The liberals in Madison thru a hissy fit and demanded that the price be the same.
Round here a company named Oakhurst was successfully sued for describing their milk as being "hormone-free". Now they can no longer use that on their labels or in their advertising.
[T]he federal government has squarely rejected arguments that GM foods are unsafe or that labeling of GM foods should be required or is appropriate.
Woe betide the ignorant anti-science hicks who defy the consensus.
Uh...all crops that we eat are biologically engineered, in a variety of ways, at the minimum by selective breeding. The fucking environmentalist Luddites need to be punched in the junk and ignored. Also, they want to get better prices for their "organic" food. What fucking scum these people are.
Nah, I think we should go with it, but everything gets the label. Then they'll actually be faced with their retardedness on a daily basis.
I'm sure that will have...no, it won't have any effect.
^This, but with minor quibbles.
You could raise non-GMO* crops using "artificial" pesticides and fertilizers; a gardener friend does this all the time. Most non-GMO farming is also "organic" since that's what the hippies want to buy.
*I'm using GMO in an imprecise sense to refer to crops which have been modified by gene-splicing and other high-tech methods. This is as opposed to non-GMO crops which are indeed genetically modified but through the Gaia-approved method of selective breeding; aka "heirloom varieties."
But T-dog, isn't grafting a GMO technique, at the core of it, as well?
Grafting really isn't. The genes of the root stock and the grafted stock don't really mix much, which is why it is useful.
Don't mix much? Isn't mixing the point? I'm not a farmer so I'm actually asking here.
Grafting is generally done with plants like apples and grapes. If you plant an apple or grape seed, you are likely to get a plant that will grow very unpalatable fruit. Grafting is used to make new plants that will produce the kind of fruit you want. The root stock is grown from seed and then a cutting is taken from a mature plant of the variety that you want and grafted onto the root stock. So the purpose of grafting is actually to keep the produce the same, not to develop hybrids.
No, the grafted stock nd the root stock stay distinct. That is why you have to be careful of what branches you allow to grow. The branches below the graft are all root stock and must be removed because they will produce junk fruit. Since grafting was discovered thousands of years ago there have been hypotheses that about grafting hybridization that continue to show up but that isn't what happens.
Awww, you called me T-dog.
Grafting doesn't modify the genes of either organism; it's more like an organ transplant to use a very crude analogy. Refer to the Wikipedia article on grafting.
Thanks, Zeb, for stepping in with a good explanation.
One of the most beautiful things about this is, GMO crops are much better suited to organic farming than non-GMO. Take that, hippies.
LOL, true dat, BP. But it's not natural. And being natural (ie, selectively anti-tech) is the core of hippiedom.
They CAN BE better suited to organic farming. It is the specific modifications that make a GMO more or less suitable to organic practices not the process of modification itself, A roundup ready variety is not going to be better suited to organic production because it may have lower yeilds than a conventional variety that is compensated for by the convenience of being able to spray herbice in order to eliminated weedy competition.
There is actually a lot in between heirloom varieties (which often really are better because modern commercial varieties are often bred for qualities other than taste, like shelf life and transportability) and what people usually mean by GMO. Before people could really do much deliberately with genetic modification, they would irradiate a bunch of seeds and look for desirable qualities in the few that would germinate after that. So even a lot of the foods which the anti-GMO crowd would find acceptable are just as artificially genetically modified, but randomly instead of deliberately. I think that this is the most ridiculous part of the anti-GMO line. That random mutations from cosmic rays or miscopied DNA or whatever are somehow going to be less likely to hurt you than deliberately inserting a fairly well understood gene into an organism.
Carrots are primarily orange because the Dutch were patriotic (and nuts). IIRC, the orange ones are less healthy than the other colored varieties.
Stupid 17th century Dutch genetic engineers.
I've been growing some multi-colored carrots for the past few years. They are very good.
robc,
There are several men with large hats, wheel-lock guns, pikes and muttering in Dutch out here to see you.
What really cheeses me off about this is that the damn hippies can, and do, label their heirloom variety produce as "non-GMO". This is all about forcing everyone else to label their products as GMO. IOW, a tactic to deliberately scare low-information consumers and drive up business for the aforementioned hippies.
This.
Anti-GMO parishioners want to have preferences for the food market space, but they want others to pay for their preferences. You want to make sure there is a marked differentiation in the labeling of GMO and non-GMO foods? Fine. But you get the privilege of paying for said differentiation.
No, they really want to eliminate "frankenfood." Like many other primitives they fear what they don't understand and their witch-doctors work them up into a lather about those who would anger their gods.
But is it fair trade?
Good one, Pants.
On another note, are there actually legal standards yet for when you get to say something is "organic"? If not, why doesn't everyone put it on their food, since it all is organic? (And if so, why didn't people start doing this before it changed?) I know it's absurdly pedantic but that usage of "organic" still drives me completely nuts.
The answer to your question.
Yup. It depends.
So why didn't everyone start using the labelling before this went into effect? Because I know we didn't have a standard at the beginning of the "organic food" craze.
From Wikipedia, "The Organic Food Production Act of 1990 (7 U.S.C.A. ? 6501-22) required that the USDA develop national standards for organic products. The NOP Final Rule was first published in the Federal Register in 2000[1] and are in the US Code of Federal Regulations at 7 CFR Part 205." People had well over a decade (counting time before 1990 when this was obviously already an issue) to educate consumers about how fucking retarded they were.
Nobody gave a rat's ass about "organic" until the hipster boom. Most people just looked at the higher price tag and bought something else.
No, Sparks, the hippies have been nattering on about this since the sixties. Like all ideas it acquired a patina of respectability with age.
How is what you just said in any way opposed to what I said? Hippies going on about it since the sixties + time = hipster boom and popularity. In fact, to this day most people still look at the price tag and buy something else.
Because I'm a picky bitch, Sparks. You wrote "nobody" which, to me, means literally nobody, zero, zilch, zip, nada. My point was that there was a small, but decidedly larger than zero, group of people who have cared about this since the sixties and that their numbers have been growing slowly but steadily.
In my experience this isn't just hipsters but is also fashionable among middle class soccer moms, particularly the ones with more disposable income.
And I totally agree that most people don't care, but mischaracterization of the demographics doesn't help.
Oh nicole, I guess you never worked in a health food store as a teenager with cynical owners. I first learned about the "organic" scam when I was 15 and the owners revealed that the "organic" label was defined by the states (at that time, it may have changed since then) and the reason all the "organic" growers were in California was that they could call something "organic" if they only used less than 50% "artificial" fertilizers, and several other lax outs for growers.
These were also the people who said "these people think granola is good for them; it's basically oats fried in the cheapest, shittiest of oils". They were really old and really cynical.
It just breaks my editor's brain. If I had been around when this started, even if I was working in some asshole's marketing department, I would have ended up quitting my job screaming, "IT ALL HAS CARBON IN IT, YOU FUCKHEADS" on my way out the door.
You mean you haven't seen this yet?
Oh, I have. I used Domino's sugar my whole life but they are dead to me now.
What's wrong with separating fools from their money? If they're buying "carbon free" sugar that's less money they have to donate to Proggie/other idiotic organizations.
I wish I could sell bottled water as carbon free sugar.
oh great noodley one, the stupid it hurts!
It's a combination of scam and stupidity (Luddite-ism). As we see so often, a few smart people with no integrity see a bleating mass of really, really stupid people out there and realize that with just a few choice words and phrases they can get the sheep to march to the new tune. "Organic" was the new tune, and the fucking retarded sheep lined right the fuck up.
Working in a health food store in the 80s gives one a very unique and close-up perspective of the whole phenomenon. And for the record, CAROB IS THE WORST. Only the most self-flagellating asshole scumbag could attempt to replace chocolate with...that.
Ha. The only time I ever thought carob was okay was when I was dogsitting and the little guy had special doggie "chocolate" chip cookies. Little Buster ate way better than health food store idiots other than that.
Who first tried carob and said, "you know what, we could replace chocolate with this!" Because that guy was a moron.
Luddism, Epi, not ludditism.
"Carob works on the principle that, when mixed with the right combination of fats and sugar, it can duplicate chocolate in color and texture. Of course, the same can be said of dirt." Sandra Boynton
"IT ALL HAS CARBON IN IT, YOU FUCKHEADS"
"Excuse me, but could you direct me to the inorganic food aisle please? No, I'm sorry, but everything in that aisle contains carbon. I want the food that does not contain carbon. You do know what organic means, don't you?"
My family refers to the automotive aisle as the inorganic food aisle.
as a teenager with cynical owners
I'm confident owning the teenaged version of you would have made anyone cynical.
All owners of teenagers are cynical.
I have a good friend who runs an organic farm, and there definitely are fairly strict standards. But a lot of the standards are pretty arbitrary.
I really like the local organic farms near me. But that is mostly because of the quality of the produce. Commercial, large scale organic stuff really has no advantage. Though if it looks better than the conventional stuff available at the supermarket, I'll buy it.
The set of people who comment at H&R may contain nuts.
are they fair trade nuts?
Unfortunately, yes. A point against them, I'm afraid. Everyone in the New New New Conservative Left knows that fair trade makes children work 752 hours without sleep and forces women into human trafficking rings. Down with (un)fair trade!
The set of people who comment at H&R may contain nuts.
Better than even odds they have two apiece.
I do not contain nuts, however I have ready access to them.
What the hell happened to Charlize Theron?
yikes
Why, why, why? Only lesbians should look like that. Has Charlize gone to the dark side?
Deez Nuts. From Australia.
"Pretty soon for most consumers such a label will go in one eye and out the other with no effect on their purchasing decisions."
Having a label pass through both eyes sounds quite painful.
I doubt this would be an issue today if the FDA hadn't approved so many poisons for human consumption. Just saying . . .
What they should do is, ask the FDA to stop preventing people from labelling their food "GMO Free".
They let people label their milk "Hormone Free" so why not?