Afghanistan

Barack Obama's Not Ending the War in Afghanistan

This is looking like the war that never ends, it just goes on and on...

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you've got the watches we've got the time, old afghan proverb
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Barack Obama campaigned in 2008 on a promise to end the war in Iraq. That promise he tried his best to break by supporting a residual force of 10,000 U.S. troops past the 2011 withdrawal date agreed to by George W. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki several years prior. That plan, in fact, was also endorsed by Mitt Romney; the Republican presidential nominee called the president out on this fact at the last debate, but Obama responded by outright lying, saying "what I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down" even though that was exactly what he tried to do. "That certainly would not help us in the Middle East," Obama said of the 10,000 troops both he and Romney wanted to remain in Iraq past the 2011 withdrawal.

The tentative withdrawal date in Afghanistan is 2014. Unlike the withdrawal date in Iraq, the Afghanistan date was negotiated not between the presidents of the U.S. and Afghanistan but among NATO leaders, making it much easier for the U.S. to wriggle out of. In fact, before NATO agreed to withdraw by 2014, the U.S. and Afghanistan worked out a deal to keep U.S. forces in Afghanistan for the next ten years. That truth was conveniently obscured during the campaign season but U.S. officials have made it a lot clearer the U.S. war in Afghanistan is not ending in 2014 since election day. The week after the election, one general told Congress at his confirmation hearing to take command in Kabul that the war in Afghanistan would certainly have to last past 2014.

And now the top man for NATO forces in Afghanistan, General John Allen, is providing a "preliminary assessment" to the Pentagon on just how many troops ought to remain in Afghanistan after 2014. One option being floated is that magical number of 10,000 troops, to remain, apparently, in order to continue to train and support Afghan forces and to conduct counterinsurgency operations. U.S. forces in Afghanistan have been doing that for the last decade. Despite a vaunted surge in 2009, U.S. forces continue to suffer from a lack of coherent direction or leadership in Afghanistan. The ultimate decision on how many troops will remain in Afghanistan past 2014 and what they will do, of course, theoretically rests with the president, one who believes he's ending the war in Afghanistan, or at least says so. Two thirds of Americans, meanwhile, want the war to end. Will empathy toward their preference be enough to placate?

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  1. And yet, the majority of American voters supported this man.

    1. Neeeeope! “Not voting” won handily.

      1. To be fair, FIFY did say “voters”, which would rule out the not voting crowd.

  2. Lemme get my shocked face. I’ll be right back.

    1. I’ve got a nice crushable version I keep folded up in my hat.

  3. “Barack Obama campaigned in 2008 on a promise to end the war in Iraq”

    Yeah, well, he’s a liar.

  4. Barack Obama’s Not Ending the War in Afghanistan

    You stupid fools! Did you think he was being serious about that?

    […][B]efore NATO agreed to withdraw by 2014, the U.S. and Afghanistan worked out a deal to keep U.S. forces in Afghanistan for the next ten years.

    Because that is what your tax money is for, fellas: To maintain someone else’s mercenaries stocked, clothed and fed.

  5. Well, he wants to, but if he did, then Rethuglicans would say bad things about him. And I mean, what was we supposed to do, vote for Romney? He was gonna put vaginas back in chains, man!

    1. I thought he was going to put chains in vaginas.

      1. That would be unnecessary. They are already obedient lady parts.

  6. Wait, are you telling me that Obama is governing as though this were the third (and soon fourth) term of the Bush Administration? Good thing I was sitting down when I got the shocking news.

    1. Naah. Bush wouldn’t have the chutzpah to lie like that. He’d get called on it.

  7. lol, there is too much money to be made lol

    http://www.Tru-Privacy.tk

  8. A liberal acquaintance tells me that we’re already out of Afghanistan. (imagines Obama waving his hand and saying, “This isn’t the war you’re looking for.”)

    1. This
      isn’t
      the
      war

      Nothing to see here! Move along!

      1. You can go about your business.

  9. Let’s see the mental contortions the Progs will have to go to rationalize this.

    Seeing them stuttering, squirming and profusely sweat is simply an added bonus.

    1. Re: Julio Cesar Samper Uribe,

      Let’s see the mental contortions the Progs will have to go to rationalize this.

      I predict someone will simply say “Bushpigs!” and just dismiss the whole thing as nothing more than racist musings from wingnuts.

    2. It’s Bush’s fault for allowing 9/11 to happen!

      It’s Bush’s fault for lying about Iraq and diverting American attention away from Afghanistan!

      Obama is a realist and a master tactician who is using efficient drone bombings to take out our enemies!

      Some combination of the above.

    3. Dead soldier. That body bag. You didn’t fill that!

      Afghan soldiers wonder aloud why their commanders don’t allow them to massacre American troops. Surely we would go home then. Naive. Why kill a golden goose just because you want to do it. Those commanders love the lucre more than give two shits about your feelings, soldier boy.

      1. Training Afghan Allies, With Guard Firmly Up

        http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09…..wanted=all

    4. They won’t even try. It’s ok when their guy does it. He’s doing it for the right reasons, because he’s on team blue. If Romney would have won and this news came out, they would be in the streets screaming about the atrocities of this terrible war that would be ended now if only their hero would have been given another chance. But, the crickets, they be a chirpin…

      1. Yeah, they’ll either not know about it, or just not bother trying to rationalize it.

  10. but Obama responded by outright lying, saying “what I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down” even though that was exactly what he tried to do.

    Its not really lying when he isn’t paying attention to what the decision makers are doing in the administration. You can accuse him of apathy or laziness, but lying is a stretch.

    1. Acting President Jarrett never made any such promise – so Obama shouldn’t be held to it.

  11. Listen, all you crazy wingnecks, Obama campaigned on Afghanistan as the “good war” as opposed to the waste of $1 trillion that was Iraq.

    Why don’t you LISTEN? He also campaigned on killing bin Laden in Pakistan – which he did.

    So he is no peacenik? He never said he was, you idiots. He just spends far less to kill more enemies than Bush did.

    Efficient – in other words.

    1. He said he was ending the war in Afghanistan repeatedly on the campaign trail, including at his convention speech. Nice try.

      1. So some general says 10,000 troops will remain there?

        Not a “war” then – just a worthless contingent force in my view.

        1. You just said that your master said it is a good war. Why is it a good war, buttwipe?

        2. Palin’s Buttplug| 11.26.12 @ 8:24PM |#
          “Not a “war” then – just a worthless contingent force in my view.”

          Dipshit, up /= down, regardless of whether it does ‘in your view’.
          Your view is nothing other than cheerleading.

        3. “some general” being the top NATO commander in Afghanistan, chosen by the president

    2. Called it. It’s all BOOOSSSHHHHHHH’s fault!

    3. Palin’s Buttplug| 11.26.12 @ 8:12PM |#
      “Listen, all you crazy wingnecks, Obama campaigned on Afghanistan as the “good war” as opposed to the waste of $1 trillion that was Iraq.’
      Cite, dipshit.
      ——————————
      “Why don’t you LISTEN? He also campaigned on killing bin Laden in Pakistan – which he did.”
      I’ll bet you think that means something. But then that’s not surprising.
      No, *he* didn’t.
      —————————–
      “So he is no peacenik? He never said he was, you idiots. He just spends far less to kill more enemies than Bush did.”
      You’re right; he hinted. He suggested. He seems to have avoided flat-out lying, but it was as close as a holding penalty in football. He simply sold a bill of goods to stupid lefties, and they bought it hook, line and sinker.
      And I’m sure this makes you proud, you sleazy piece of crap.

      1. Why do you let that idiot get to you? He has demonstrated zero prognostic ability over the years. Leave losers like buttplug to themselves to soak in the santorum.

        1. Killazontherun| 11.26.12 @ 8:48PM |#
          “Why do you let that idiot get to you?”

          Disputing BS is satisfying regardless of whether the liar is shithead, derider, santorum or PB.

          1. It’s kind of nice of you to give the loser the time of day, but he’s exploiting you guys to convince his mother he actually has friends.

            ‘You see, mom. All those insults. That’s what friends do.’

          2. We should have a separate blog for the trolls and the troll feeders, so that good commenters can enjoy each other’s thought provoking remarks and commentary without the poop-fingers ruining it.

    4. Hey Obama’s Jockstrap,

      Thanks for proving me right.

      You did all the mental contortions. And I see you stuttering, squirming and sweating profusely.

      Man, I’m a genius!!! (Saying this as a personal statement, of course)

    5. He just spends far less to kill more enemies than Bush did.

      Citation, please.

      1. “Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands.”

      2. I would bet that BO has directly killed more civilians than Bush did in the same amount of time.

    6. Yup, Afghanistan is the “good war” (well, since Obama took office anyway), why? Fuck you, that’s why.

      /Obamanoid

  12. Good news for you conservatives.

    Santorum in for 2016.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ti…..ction.html

    It is his turn.

    1. I detect high levels of herp AND derp.

      Well done, Obama’s Jockstrap.

      And as a personal aside, I wouldn’t vote for that Big-Government-for-abortion-and-teh-geyz socon, closet-neocon, Evangelical-pandering piece of shit. Ever.

    2. You’re actively psychotic. Seek help, seriously.

  13. Oh, come on you libertarian spoil sports – let’s get this started!

    This is the war that never ends.
    It goes on and on my friends.
    Some people started fighting it not knowing what it was,
    And they’ll continue fighting it forever just because…..

    This is the war that never ends.
    It goes on and on my friends.
    Some people started fighting it not knowing what it was,
    And they’ll continue fighting it forever just because…..

    and on and on and on and……

    1. Palin’s Buttplug| 11.26.12 @ 8:24PM |#
      …”Not a “war” then – just a worthless contingent force in my view.”

      See, it’s not really a war-war.

  14. Remember kids…. RomneyWouldHaveDoneItToo!?

    1. And he wouldn’t have?

    2. Romney’s a punk bitch with no balls and no principles. He would of done whatever he thought might get him more votes and then blamed the American public for his failures.

      And the sycophantic big government republicans that voted for him would be lapping that shit up like shrike laps up Obama’s ball sweat.

  15. That plan, in fact, was also endorsed by Mitt Romney; the Republican presidential nominee called the president out on this fact at the last debate, but Obama responded by outright lying, saying “what I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down” even though that was exactly what he tried to do. “That certainly would not help us in the Middle East,” Obama said of the 10,000 troops both he and Romney wanted to remain in Iraq past the 2011 withdrawal.

    It’s not a lie if you can make yourself believe it.

    I’m convinced that he has Franken come to the White House each morning and do his Stuart Smalley routine for him.

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