Scott Brown Staffers Mock Elizabeth Warren With War Whoops, Tomahawk Chops
The attacks on Elizabeth Warren's disputed American-Indian heritage from conservatives and Republicans have finally blown up in Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown's face. Brown staffers have been caught on video mocking Democrat Warren with overtly racist gestures.
Brown has been pushing the "Warren isn't a real Indian" line for months. It is red meat to Brown's supporters and to Warren's detractors (especially at the national level), but it doesn't seem to have turned many voters away from Warren, who is seeking to take Brown's seat in a national capital whose NFL franchise is called the Redskins. Polls show voters are aware of the scandal over Warren's claims of having Indian ancestors, but it has had little impact on their vote.
Brown works hard to paint Warren as untrustworthy and of questionable character. His campaign has attacked Warren hard on her work involving asbestos claims and for coal mining companies and on the claim of practicing law without a license. But the heritage allegations are a different story. Brown (who narrowly won his Senate seat in an interim election after the death of Ted Kennedy) has had to walk a fine line in trying to attack Warren and her family without alienating Baystaters. His supporters have called her Lieawatha and Fauxcauhontas, not exactly racially sensitive terms.
This video shows Brown staffers including Greg Casey and Jack Richard, but the footage of Brown supporters engaging in this behavior would have been damaging even without actual staffers. Casey and Richard's appearance just adds fuel to the fire.
Brown released his first real negative ad of the campaign after the first debates, attacking Warren's self-reported herritage. Warren was up shortly with a response ad that is, well, a vast improvement over her earlier ads. It makes her appear sympathetic and likable, something she's struggled with throughout the campaign.
Boston has a sad racial history and this latest episode just adds to the global perception that my hometown is populated with a bunch of whiskey-drinking knuckledraggers who hate the New York Yankees.
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They're probably just complaining about bad officiating.
Let's bury the hatchet, we smokem peace pipe!
the global perception that my hometown is populated with a bunch of whiskey-drinking knuckledraggers who hate the New York Yankees
If the shoe fits...
Just kidding, Garrett. Even Massholes can be good people. Occasionally.
Can you prove this proposition?
Uh...maybe? That would be a lot of work.
They were a good people until the Mics and Wops moved in. Now they are racist scumbags.
"Also, first thing we gotta do is get rid of these shamrocks 'cause nothing scares gays and black folks like Irish crap, you know what I mean?"
Hating the Yankees isn't proof?
Hate isn't a strong enough word. I'd cheer against the Red Sox to see them lose.
Hate isn't a strong enough word. I'd cheer against the Red Sox to see them lose.
Hate isn't a strong enough word. I'd cheer against the Red Sox to see them lose.
It's so ugly when the squirrels turn against their masters.
Patriotic Americans hate both the Yankees and the Sox of Color.
Of course not. That's a universal human condition.
Necessary but not sufficient.
You can rage against the impersonal laws of physics in the Yankees Universe all you want, but you can't change the laws of nature.
Pride. Power. Pinstripes. Motherfucker!
Yeah, but they do keep joe derp there. Though I suppose with joe around there's always someone dumber and shorter than you, so it must be a self esteem thing.
"Though I suppose with joe around there's always someone dumber and shorter than you"
But what about the last guy?
/Arlo Guthrie
Yeah, but they do keep joe derp there. Though I suppose with joe around there's always someone dumber and shorter than you, so it must be a self esteem thing.
I just assume that's why tarran stays there.
At least this time it's not a Southerner concern-trolling about the reputation of his region, but a straight-up Yankee from the Nawth.
Tell us more about the regional stereotypes you're trying to overcome.
I know you're too stupid to understand the joke, but maybe you could talk about abortion some more, Chris.
Perhaps you could perform an anatomically-implausible act on yourself (*very* implausible, in your case).
"At least this time it's not a Southerner concern-trolling about the reputation of his region.."
Hey, I just got here, give me a minute geez.
The only problem I see here is the failure to reference beer and chowda. Otherwise, sign me up.
Yeah, I may or may not drag my knuckles, but I do like whisky and DO NOT like the Yanquis.
This doesn't seem racist to me. Making fun of someone who falsely claimed Native American heritage in this way seems actually appropriate.
This is what I was thinking.
I might be 1/32 Cherokee and I officially declare this Not Racist!
Wait, the people who are mocking the person claiming a racial heritage she doesn't own are the bad guys? What a country!
It's racist because she ( is / is not ) part Cherokee!
(circle one)
/MSNBC
It's racist because any criticism of affirmative action is racist.
For one thing, affirmative action is absolutely necessary for racial justice.
For another thing, it has no actual impact on anyone.
Not true! It got us President Obama.
I find it difficult to believe that anyone who is "offended" by this wasn't already planning on voting for Warren.
^This
I doubt Fauxcahontas would lose a single vote if she shot up an elementary school on live TV.
There is much loyalty to persons more than ideas across the political spectrum, but the team blue bunch take the cake. Their loyalty to 'their guys' is fanatical. I see it on a weekly basis with a super liberal I talk to.
Last time she complained about her electric bill. Prices are up....substantially. I pointed out that obama ( in her words 'a good man') wants energy prices to skyrocket. She denied it. I reminded her of him saying so explicitly on video. She didnt believe me. I reminded her I had already shown her the video three fucking times. She just didnt remember so I would have to show her again.
They are fanatics.
Orwell was not just talking about Oceania when he explained the principles of crimestop and doublethink
Anyone else getting the sense this is a slow news day?
In praise of tabloids.
We can always talk about Golden Tate's simultaneous catch some more.
8 sacks in one half, dude. Anyone butthurt over the outcome should be taking it out on the GB O-line.
Oh, I know it, dude. I watched every one of those sacks. Especially the ones right after one another. It was beautiful.
I will give GB credit in that they sorted their shit out during halftime. But man, they got PWN'D during the first half.
Plus about 7 holding calls on the right tackle, who was getting STEVE SMITH'd by the rookie.
Seattle's offense was pretty inept, too (how many 3 and outs did they have), but nobody's claiming that their ineptitude deserved to cost them the game.
They're talking about it here at work. So I gather there was a fishy call at some high school football game?
That will end soon, at least in one state.
New Jersey state senator wants to make using replacement refs illegal.
sigh
Ye gods. What fucking morons.
Well, we're talking about New Jersey...
Are there even any teams based in New Jersey? Fuck em.
Considering the long gap between this and the last post...
FSU fans get a pass, right? Because we pretty much greet all our opponents with the Chop and a warchant. (Although, in a pitch to the hipsters, the band did play the Game of Thrones theme during the Clemson game. Seriously, only Miami and UF are worse placed to play the theme to a show whose tagline is: "Winter is coming")
FSU literally got a pass from the tribe itself, some time ago, I believe.
Not that you aren't all scum, anyway.
Not from the Okie 'Noles they didn't.
They're in Florida.
So were the Okie 'Noles until Old Hickory. I think they deserve some consideration.
So you'd disenfranchise the Seminoles in Florida?
Their votes were bought and paid for!
I dont think FSU is celebrating the losers, just the ones who stayed and fought.
Thus our "Unconquered" schtick.
I'll have to check, but I'm pretty sure that the Seminole tribe was everyone who stayed AFTER Jackson sent the Creek and Cherokee to OK. And escaped slaves and Spanish Creole. In the early 1800s being disliked by the local whites was pretty much good for honorary membership as a Seminole "Indian".
Yeah. TK was smart enough to just outright bribe the tribe. Free scholarships to the richest demographic in FL! But, hey, fuck the NCAA. I liked Weatherell. He wasn't afraid of anyone. Picked a fight with the NCAA and won, fired Saint Bobby. Shit, he even did some good things for the academics.
Bribery--the purest form of flattery.
Atlanta Braves fans get a pass too, I suppose. But its ok there, because back when the Braves were good Jane Fonda was doing the tomahawk chop too.
That's like an official endorsement by the PC police.
It was either that or give hubby Ted another blowjob. It was in the prenup.
Ted's like Caligula, without the government. That's why he owns his own state.
And something like 3/4 of Madison County, FL.
Let me see if I understand this. They're crossing the line in mocking her as a non-Indian. Her defense is that they're insulting American Indians, which she lied about being.
Warren is clearly a dishonest and incoherent candidate. That the other candidate isn't so great either isn't terribly relevant, because, relatively speaking, she's much worse.
"His supporters have called her Lieawatha and Fauxcauhontas, not exactly racially sensitive terms."
Oh bullshit.
LOL, the white guilt is strong with this one.
Have to agree. This is politics, not some bullshit Harvard faculty club or student greivance theater. Think it gets better or easier once in power? I doubt it.
" this latest episode just adds to the global perception that my hometown is populated with a bunch of whiskey-drinking knuckledraggers who hate the New York Yankees."
Oh bullshit.
I mean really. "global perception"? Do you really think they are following this in Nigeria? The Czech Republic? Canada and Mexico?
Rhode Island?
None of this is racist and you're full of it, Garrett.
He really does seem to have his panties in a bunch.
Being full of shit is a ethnic slur against the Irish. You're suppose to refer to it as the 'gift for gab' to show proper racial sensitivity.
Speaking of sensitivity, these words just came out of Obama's lips --
The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.
Fuck the old Gods and fuck the new ones who promise to lower the oceans.
you have got to be fucking kidding me right now.
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I wished I were kidding.
That's a joke, right?
No...no it's not.
I am going to go drink myself to death (again) now.
I...uh...alright, fuck this shit, I'm going to do some serious work and not think about how fucking retarded our government is for a while. Sometimes it's just too much.
So my choices are between
1. A not-so-secret Muslim
2. A Morman
3. Gary Johnson
These guys are making it easier and easier.
What? He really said that? I suspect a large number of Americans aren't particularly fond of the religion, thanks to that thing that happened that time.
Surely you mean the USS Cole and NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED
It was some thing where some people got killed.
Fast and Furious?
That's the one!
The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.
And people wonder why a significant fraction of Americans (and, apparently, damn near everybody in the Middle East) thinks he's a Muslim.
And Madonna!
You're suppose to refer to it as the 'gift for gab' to show proper racial sensitivity.
That's "gift o' gab", what with being Irish and all. he-teh-teh-teh-tehh (Leprechaun noise)
Lol! You guys are the second funniest race on the planet, now that Richard Pryor(PBUH) is dead.
Forward!
Wow. That's pretty awful.
But I'm sure he meant to say "Americans have the absolute right to slander Mohammed all they want and I will die defending that right if that's what it takes".
Madonna to strip naked if Obama re-elected.
Well, if there wasn't a reason to vote for Mitt, there is one now.
I'm a little torn. Extremely pale skinned liches are kind of a thing.
I'm thinking about stocking up on dragon glass.
Hasnt everyone who wanted to already seen her naked?
But she was nineteen and very hot then. This is a chance to see her in her naked in her golden years.
She called him a black Muslim at a concert. To cheers.
Brown staffers have been caught on video mocking Democrat Warren with overtly racist gestures.
War whoops, and tomahawk chops are overtly racist?
Is that the line you are selling, Quinn?
Note to Quinn: Never watch a Braves game on TV.
I'm assuming he's never seen one as he gets the vapors and passes out thinking about it.
They're not on TBS anymore.
Seriously, more like good luck watching Braves games on TV, unless you live there or in a city with a team they play.
Wait. I was told that the Braves are Americ's team...like the Dallas Cowboys.
I've noticed I've been seeing far more Yankees of late on TBS. Most seasons that's a good thing, but the Braves have been having a interesting run.
So hiring underlings that mock your opponents using stereotypes that native americans hate is a bad thing.
But you can hire underlings that hire underlings that smuggle weapons to drug dealers in mexico and that just all right.
Would this be like how the Libya comments "blew up" in Romney's face?
"The news media often jumps the gun in declaring events to be "game changers" - Nate Silver
I'd say some off-color comments buried in the mockery are less appalling than the outright lies coming out of Warren. She's got to be one of the most openly dishonest candidates in a while, and that's saying something. Though that seems to be a trend with the party, given Obama.
There latest trend is being Dhimmicrats
Their
And really, 'blowing up' up in his face? I, for one, hear a dog whistle...
I know it's been a while since the big change over. But could the squirrels please make the FUCKING PREVIEW BUTTON WORK AGAIN!
I'm thinking maybe we could start a pledge drive?
I'm willing to donate $20 to Reason to get the preview button back.
Anybody else willing to chip in?
This is dumb.
While I agree with the commenters who think that objectively this ain't no thang, I have to say that the people who did this, and videotaped it, are frikkin' idiots, who have managed to take an issue that the Brown people were handling quite well to damage Warren, and turn it into a liability for Brown.
Way to go, morons.
They work for Brown, I just assumed idiocy on their part is assumed.
This was a particularly stupid thing for Brown's staffers to do.
That depends on whether media want to manufacture it into a story or ignore it.
It'll just bring more attention to Warren's abuse of the Native American identity.
I think you wrote "racially sensitive" when you meant to write "racially oversensitive". Look, sorry Reasonoids, but the left is going to come after you. They utterly hate you in a way that the American right can usually only work up to when they feel like you screwed them by voting for candidates you actually support. Appeasement is only going to encourage it.
I think Quinn was being sarcastic in the context of it. He did mention how that would play out in DC given their football team name.
Personally, I'm hoping that there is one more debate, and the following question gets asked:
"Ms. Warren, why didn't you get a Massachusetts law license?"
If the faux Indian thing is still on, maybe this one:
"Ms. Warren, would you agree or disagree that family lore is an adequate basis for claiming minority status under the federal affirmative action rules." (Hint: its not.)
The law license seems to be a much, much bigger deal than the supposedly "overtly racist" mockery of her ethnic heritage b.s. Apparently she refuses to release a list of her legal clients. It would be interesting to ask them if they knew they were employing someone without a license, and what they think of that now.
Maybe we can now get Mass. Democrats to condemn the concept of professional licensing!
Poor Lizzie Warren, she'll never be able to attend an Atlanta Braves game without feeling the sting of hatred and mockery.
I bet the first thing she tries to do in Washington D.C. is to have the Washington Redskins change their name to the Washington Ladies.
Okay, I can understand why Native Americans would feel legitimate offended by a racial slur, but for fuck's sake, no one makes a big deal of this when it's done 81 times a year at Turner Field.
I'm sure you can drag up video of Jane Fonda and Ted Turner doing the Tomahawk Chop at Braves games.
I've seen them do it with my own two eyes just a dozen or so yards away.
You know, my race is mocked pretty constantly in popular culture, often portrayed as boorish and stupid, evil and conniving, insensitive and the cause of all of the world's problems. But do I complain or play the victim? No.
This is all races and ethnic groups to someone.
YOU'RE WELSH?!?!?
No, Polish...although where he gets conniving I'll never know.
Someone told him it was a synonym for stupid.
The same dude who sold me the screen door for my submarine.
I took him to be claiming a Jewish ancestry, what with the conniving and cause of all the world's problems.
Sober Irish is my guess.
I bet there are some Native Americans who would engaged in this sort of thing to. Some of them have a sense of humor, you know.
I have distant Native ancestors myself and might be willing to berate Ms. Warren too.
The only people who care about what Brown's staffers did are people who were already going to vote for Lie-awatha anyway--no matter whether she unduly exploited discrimination against Native Americans for personal gain or not.
Incidentally, why is Elizabeth Warren still refusing to meet with representatives from various Native American groups?
"She has chosen not to do interviews with the Native press, has ignored visits and inquiries from Cherokees, and she refused to meet with Native American delegates at the Democratic National Convention earlier this month."
http://indiancountrytodaymedia.....z27VQ2nFuz
But Ken, her and her supporters are heroically taking offense for this gesture on behalf of Native Americans, isn't that better than admitting your mistake and apologizing to the one ethnic group that has been screwed over the most in our nation's history?
Brown has been pushing the "Warren isn't a real Indian" line for months.
Is she still pushing the line that she is, based on some highly nebulous claim with no authentic documentation to back it up? If she is, then she deserves to be continuously ridiculed.
"She refused to meet with Native American delegates at the Democratic National Convention earlier this month."
First she said she checked the box saying she was Native American becasue she wanted to meet more people like her--now when they want to get to know her better, she refuses to even meet with them?
I wonder why.
"It's almost becoming extremely offensive to us," said Twila Barnes, a Cherokee genealogist who has researched Warren's family tree. "We're trying to get in contact and explain why her behavior hurts us and is offensive, and she totally ignores that. Like we don't exist."
http://bostonherald.com/news/p....._offensive
Yeah, Liz Warren, who may not be Cherokee at all, exploiting discrimination against Native Americans for personal gain--that's too not offensive...
...but doing the tomahawk chop to ridicule her for her insensitivity, that's unconscionable?!
Just goes to show that the standard being applied here isn't whether what you do is offensive to Native Americans. The question is whether what you do is offensive to white, Massachusetts liberals.
And white, Massachusetts liberals don't give a shit about Native Americans. If they did? They would have demanded that Elizabeth Warren meet with the representatives of the Cherokees--who she may have offended worse than any hand gesture ever could.
"The question is whether what you do is offensive to white, Massachusetts liberals."
The *existence* of a Republican party is offensive to white Mass liberals.
It certainly is.
But it's important to note that, on just about any issue of race you want to mention, they don't care about the people being discriminated against anywhere near as much as they care about whether you offend their sensibilities.
And if their sense is that Elizabeth Warren is fighting for the little guy, then anything that goes against that is offensive to them. It doesn't matter if Elizabeth Warren herself behaves offensively to the Cherokee--according to the Cherokee representatives. Oh no! What matters is something Scott Brown's staffers did--that might offend Native Americans somewhere?!
That's about as screwed up a sense of indignation as I can imagine. ...where being potentially offensive to Native Americans is worse than actually offending Native Americans?
...and being offensive to Native Americans is something Elizabeth Warren has actually done--according to the representatives of the Cherokee.
Yup. And remember when they claimed to care about the troops and dead Iraqis/Afghans/etc. before Obama was elected?
NeoLibs have a weird relationship with "the troops". They spend half the time painting everybody who ever enlisted as some sort of raping, pillaging Mongolian savage and the other expressing a faux concern for them.
...my hometown is populated with a bunch of whiskey-drinking knuckledraggers who hate the New York Yankees.
But isn't that true?
*ducks*
Has Reason gotten around to mentioning Warren's practicing law without a license yet?
I don't think they mentioned Liz Warren representing an insurance company against asbestos victims either.
http://www.boston.com/bostongl.....legal.html
I'm sure it was a devious, sereptitious way of standing up for the common man. Injuns are like that, you know.
Yeah. Yesterday, I think.
Everyone should get around to rewatching Gran Torino to remember what it's like to embrace each other's ethnicity in a uniformly mockable manner.
Oh for the love of God. Mocking a white woman who submitted a (plagarized) recipe to a cookbook called "Pow Wow Chow" by making tomahawk chops is racist? Get a grip.
"Brown works hard to paint Warren as untrustworthy and of questionable character."
He hasn't worked half as hard to this end as she has. The woman has run one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen, her entire platform begins and ends with nannystatism and her outright telling people that they're too stupid to run their own lives, and that the government owns them anyway.
If this woman was running in any besides Mass., California and maybe New York, she'd be a laughingstock.