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Romney Releases Returns, More Protests in Pakistan, Counter-Protests in Libya: P.M. Links

Scott Shackford | 9.21.2012 4:30 PM

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  • Mitt Romney has released his 2011 tax returns. Enjoy picking over that.

  • Protests over Innocence of Muslims have turned deadly in Pakistan. Fifteen have been killed so far. KFC has closed their restaurants in the nation for safety.
  • Thousands of Libyans came out to march today in opposition to local militias, one of which is believed to have participated in the deadly attack on the Benghazi consulate.
  • J.P. Morgan and Bank of America claim their sites were attacked by the Iranian government, which then used the anger over Innocence of Muslims as a cover story
  • Apple's iPhone 5 hit the market today. In case you hadn't heard.
  • A new poll shows Americans trust the mass media less than ever. Or so they would have you believe.
  • Unemployment rates rose in 23 states. Nevada leads with 12.1 percent.
  • The U.S. Postal Service has figured out how it's going to survive. It's going to send you even more junk mail.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Mitt Romney has released his 2011 tax returns. Enjoy picking over that.

    On a Friday afternoon??? Not even the news media will do that!

    1. Restoras   13 years ago

      He clearly released them on a Friday afternoon becasue he has soemthing to hide! T o n y said so herpittyderpderp...

      1. Apatheist ?_??   13 years ago

        I do kinda hate the Friday afternoon drop though. Obama does that shit all the time.

        1. gaijin   13 years ago

          It gives everyone with nothing to do on a friday night something to look forward to though.

          1. Red Rocks Rockin   13 years ago

            It actually is a nice little "fuck you" to the media--he knows darn well they'll now pore over his returns all weekend, and spoil whatever time off they had planned.

          2. wef   13 years ago

            I think there is some increasing anxiety in the r camp:

            Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012
            71.6% CHANCE
            Last prediction was: $7.16 / share
            Today's Change: +$0.17 (+2.4%)

            http://www.intrade.com/v4/mark.....tId=743474

  2. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

    Apple's iPhone 5 hit the market today. In case you hadn't heard.

    So when's the iPhone6 being released?

    1. Invisible Finger   13 years ago

      When the Fed needs a GDP boost.

  3. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

    Bonding time? Snoop Dogg smokes weed with his son

  4. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

    No Fat Chicks

    1. mr simple   13 years ago

      Does this model look plus-sized to you?

      Yes.

    2. Pound. Head. On. Desk.   13 years ago

      No Fat Chicks

      I guess this is more your size?

      For the calories in/calories out crowd: She has to eat every 15 minutes because she cannot store fat. She eats 5,000 to 8,000 Calories a day and weighs less than 60 pounds (4 stone).

    3. Juice   13 years ago

      Does this model look plus-sized to you?

      In the bewbs department, yes.

    4. Fluffy   13 years ago

      6 foot 2 and a size 12? Yeah, I'll pass.

      I really don't see the difference between hitting that and hitting a man. If you tried to spoon it, it would be like being in bed with Vince Wilfork.

      1. Sudden   13 years ago

        If you tried to spoon it, it would be like being in bed with Vince Wilfork.

        The things a player will do for a sack...

      2. Corning   13 years ago

        If you tried to spoon it

        It time Snoo Snoo!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o5i2jUzMB0

    5. Proprietist   13 years ago

      I think Robyn Lawley is really a case where you can honestly say "she's not fat, she's big boned." Proportionately, she still looks healthy and below average.

      Something John and I would probably agree on for once.

    6. Calidissident   13 years ago

      Honestly, I care a lot more about her height than her weight. She doesn't seem overweight at all given her frame, but she's too tall for my preference

  5. Restoras   13 years ago

    What's an Iphone?

  6. Invisible Finger   13 years ago

    Nevada left the union??

    1. Invisible Finger   13 years ago

      Fixed already. Never mind.

  7. sage   13 years ago

    Pm links? You didn't post that.

    1. Jerry on the road   13 years ago

      Yeah, more like happy hour links.

      1. Sudden   13 years ago

        Not happy enough for us west coasters.

  8. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

    The heads on easter island have bodies too

    1. Fluffy   13 years ago

      That blows my mind

    2. R C Dean   13 years ago

      Oh, fer fuck's sake.

      It was hard enough to figure on a bunch of stone-agers moving those giant heads around. But they were actually moving around much more gigantic complete statutes?

    3. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

      Naturally. Robots without bodies aren't much use.

  9. Ice Nine   13 years ago

    Protests over Innocence of Muslims have turned deadly in Pakistan. Fifteen have been killed so far.

    Is that perceived to be a problem?

    1. Sudden   13 years ago

      It's kinda like a case study in stupid: We're pissed off at America over some youtube video no one watched until we allegedly pretended to be pissed off over it. So, to retaliate, we'll burn American flags and end up killing 15 of our own idiot brethren.

      Wow, you guys really showed us. Keep doing what you're doing.

    2. Calidissident   13 years ago

      Unless, we know who these 15 were, it's unfair to say that. They could have been innocent bystanders for all we know

  10. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Protests over Innocence of Muslims have turned deadly in Pakistan.

    Better than the We're Easily Manipulated Backward Fucks And We Can Prove It protests, I suppose.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Apple's iPhone 5 hit the market today. In case you hadn't heard.

    "She was born in the 80's. She still uses her phone as a phone!"

    1. Xenocles   13 years ago

      I turned 30 today. I have a phone that I can only use as a phone.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

        Happy birthday, weirdo. Is your phone avocado green and does it have a rotary dial? Do you pick up the receiver and ask the operator to give you KLondike5-1982?

        1. Xenocles   13 years ago

          I'm trying to get myself into the habit of answering it with "Ahoy ahoy."

      2. Sudden   13 years ago

        Congrats, I have you beat be a month and a day. You're going to feel older and older every day. I actually had a second job interview yesterday and began wondering if this might be the last time I sit in an interview without them purposely disregarding me for my age.

        1. Restoras   13 years ago

          That'll happen again when you are older.

        2. Xenocles   13 years ago

          My wife's the same age with some grey, whereas I had to grow a mustache just to look half my age. Thanks all for the well-wishes. I didn't mean to troll for compliments, it just seemed apropos.

      3. R C Dean   13 years ago

        I have a phone that I can only use as a phone.

        Me, too. Right on my desk at work. (Well, actually on the back of one of the orphans I use for office furniture, but you know what I mean).

        I have another "landline" at home, too. Need it for the cable box and the home security system (the one that doesn't eat kibble by the truckload and crap all over the yard).

        1. Xenocles   13 years ago

          No, this is the kind that you can carry around wherever you go, except I can't bring it in to work with me. We don't have a land line - I mean, we do, but we don't use it.

  12. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

    Where's Waldo is only 25?
    That doesn't seem right

    1. NoVAHockey   13 years ago

      he's easy to find. just look for him on his parent's health insurance plan.

      1. Sudden   13 years ago

        You didn't build that joke.

      2. Pip   13 years ago

        +2,700 pages

    2. Stormy Dragon   13 years ago

      I tried to google some Waldo/Carmen Sandiego slash fiction once, but I couldn't find any.

  13. nicole   13 years ago

    I have to double-post because I only got in the end of the Romney tax thread, but you people's have to see the Gawker story on it, which calls them "basically made-up" because he overpaid. First graf:

    Mitt Romney has just released his long-awaited 2011 tax returns, and guess what? He deliberately overpaid his 2011 federal tax burden so he wouldn't look like an avaricious plutocrat gaming the system. Which is just bizarre.

    The commenters do not fail to bring it. I am laughing/crying too hard to say more myself.

    1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      And if he had taken all his legal deductions what would they be calling him?

      1. nicole   13 years ago

        I don't know, but I have to say, some people are...not good. From the article itself:

        In other words, Romney picked a tax rate and told his accountant to hit it. "Just get me somewhere north of 13% so people don't get mad at me." It's just an accounting gimmick; numerical smoke and mirrors.

        Smoke and mirrors...oh, and, you know, a bunch of real. fucking. money. Like, a shitload of it.

        1. Red Rocks Rockin   13 years ago

          Zounds!! You mean to tell me a rich man can afford to hire an accountant that will find the loopholes and deductions needed to get to a certain threshold?

          Who could have seen that coming?

    2. Episiarch   13 years ago

      Post some of the comments. I don't have your masochistic capability to wade through that shit.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

        Don't track that all over reason's rug!

      2. nicole   13 years ago

        First, let me say that I took a pledge to never visit Gawker again, which I broke because I knew this would be EPIC. Also, that I do this only for you.

        "Bet you 10,000 bucks that he files an amended return after Election Day (assuming, you know, nobody gives a crap about him anymore at that point)."

        "I believe he has three years to file an amended return and claim all of the appropriate deductions. I wonder if he'll file a correction after the election."

        "You know, the interest and penalties associated with the Offshore Voluntary Disclosure Initiative would really push the effective tax rate up a bit from his historic 10-15% range. I'm assuming that is the basis for his 20% etr."

        On the apparently invalidity of Harry Reid's statement that there were years in which Mittens paid nothing: "I disagree with this. If he had paid zero he would not have paid taxes. His campaign could make the statement "the lowest annual effective federal personal tax rate was 13.6%" a "0% personal tax rate" would not be effective.

        We will never know until they release the returns in their entirety."

        1. nicole   13 years ago

          Also: "So he lied when he said 'I pay all the taxes owed and not a penny more.'

          "Maybe he'll now follow his next thought: 'I don't think we want someone running for president who pays more taxes than he owes.'"

          1. nicole   13 years ago

            Sorry, one more, my favorite: "It appears you missed the overall point of this post. There is no proof that he conspired with his accountant to get his rate up above 13%, but it's a pretty big coincidence that it hit just at 14% and he gave up an assload of deductions. You can either assume he didn't take advantage out of the goodness of his heart or that it was deliberate to make his tax rate more palatable to all us poors out there who he knew would be seeing it this year."

            1. Episiarch   13 years ago

              Thanks for braving the swamp, nicole. Their palpable need for him to have done something nefarious is very, very telling. BOOGEYMAN!!!

              1. nicole   13 years ago

                They are so far past parody it's amazing. I didn't even get into the ones where they just claimed donating to the Church didn't count as charity. That's boring at this point. There are so many new and unexpected (but so boringly predictable) contortions beyond that!

                1. John   13 years ago

                  The "donating to the church is not charity" and the "these are faked" were my two guesses for the left reaction to this.

                  This is just pathetic.

                  1. Fluffy   13 years ago

                    I agree with the notion that deductions to churches usually aren't really charity.

                    1. John   13 years ago

                      It is nice to know King Fluffy gets the final word on what is "charity". I would say donations to a lot of things are not "charity" in my book. But who asked me?

                    2. Fluffy   13 years ago

                      I would personally be very interested in your views regarding what is and what is not charity.

                      But who asked me?

                      Fluffy did.

                2. Episiarch   13 years ago

                  The best part is their magical belief that he would do anything actually shady. He doesn't have to; he just hires a ream of accountants and tax lawyers who make sure whatever they do is 100% legal. It's not like there aren't tons of loopholes they can use. But of course, instead of ROMNIAC being a run-of-the-mill asshole politician, suddenly he's Lex Luthor.

                  1. John   13 years ago

                    Romney has a lot of flaws. But being a crook isn't one of them. The idea that a duddly do right Mormon was some kind of mafia don level tax evader is beyond satire.

          2. Xenocles   13 years ago

            "So he lied when he said 'I pay all the taxes owed and not a penny more.'

            Somehow I think "Romney covered up tax overpayment" isn't going to play the way that guy thinks.

            1. nicole   13 years ago

              I wonder if these folks have heard of the Buffett Rule Act yet.

              1. Xenocles   13 years ago

                The Buffett Rule is "All you can eat," right?

                1. nicole   13 years ago

                  The act is a joke the Republicans in the House got passed to create a checkbox on tax forms so you can more easily donate extra to fedgov.

    3. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

      But who amongst us is brave enough to wade into the Fark comments?

      1. Red Rocks Rockin   13 years ago

        For the nerds that frequent Fark, "lesser Americans" is an apt description.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Unemployment rates rose in 23 states. Nevada leads with 12.1 percent.

    Another ugly side effect of Romney's 47% mega-gaffe.

    1. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

      No, it was clearly a result of his criticism of the Cairo statement.

  15. rts   13 years ago

    A new poll shows Americans trust the mass media less than ever.

    This is bad news... for Obama.

  16. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

    A site for Jurassic Park toys nostalgia. BE SURE TO WATCH OUT FOR THE OFFICIAL "JP" LOGO!

  17. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Around 30,000 Libyans marched through the eastern city of Benghazi on Friday in an unprecedented protest to demand the disbanding of powerful militias in the wake of last week's attack that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.

    Thirty fucking thousand? If that number is anywhere near correct, holy hell.

    1. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

      I'd be willing to bet that many of those folks are paid by the CIA or some such.

      It's pretty tin foil-ie of me, but when our administration has gone above and beyond to blame a fucking YouTube video and absolve official policy of blame, I wouldn't put anything past them.

      1. Brett L   13 years ago

        "Please don't bomb the fuck out of us" wouldn't get you motivated to march?

        1. Xenocles   13 years ago

          Wouldn't marching just cluster you together, making you easier to bomb?

    2. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

      Well, if there were a sliver lining to the cloud that was Gaddafi it would be that he was a secular Arab socialist. Also, thanks to being such a 'personality', Libya was fairly isolated from both the Wahabi of House Saud and the Mullahocracy of Iran. Thus, less of the Libyan population got infected with the bat-shit crazy Islamist meme.

    3. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

      And many are impatient with Ansar al-Shariah's talk of imposing its strict version of Islamic law. The group's name means "Supporters of Shariah Law."

      No, the term Ansar is closer to this.

    4. R C Dean   13 years ago

      That would be really impressive if they were all toting AKs.

    5. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

      So I'm the only one not too cynical to find this genuine, impressive and heartening?

    6. Calidissident   13 years ago

      But remember, according to people here, all of them are savages who want to kill Americans. You'd think libertarians of all people wouldn't be so quick to stereotype and collectively judge other people

  18. Killazontherun   13 years ago

    The U.S. Postal Service has figured out how it's going to survive. It's going to send you even more junk mail.

    The 90's. What a great era for junk mail. I never had to buy my own cologne nor blank CDs.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

      I heat my home with junk mail.

      1. sage   13 years ago

        I heat mine with postal workers.

        1. Xenocles   13 years ago

          I use mine to make jerky.

  19. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

    This is fascinating:
    Singapore GP: How do you turn Marina Bay into an F1 street race?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19667126

    1. Apatheist ?_??   13 years ago

      Way back in the 90s when I lived there, bringing F1 to Singapore was a big deal. They are always pissy about KL hosting one. Glad to see it made it.

      1. R C Dean   13 years ago

        Austin TX (I know, Austin!?!) is getting an F1 track. So cool.

  20. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

    Scariest. Unsolved Mystery. EVER!

    1. Sudden   13 years ago

      Am I missing something? I can't believe I watched the whole thing, but I can't find anything unusually scary about it.

      1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

        Creepy, maybe? I don't know, but the over the shoulder shot of the suspect and the haunting music and Stack's narration were excellent.

  21. Episiarch   13 years ago

    The U.S. Postal Service has figured out how it's going to survive. It's going to send you even more junk mail.

    If they do that my mailbox is going to explode, and not because Ken hit it with a baseball bat. Maybe that's for the best. I wish I could get rid of my land mail like I did my landline phone.

    1. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

      At one point in life, I got rid of my landline. I saved tons of money.

      Then I moved to the sticks where the ONLY form of "broadband" internet was fucking DSL, so I had to get a land line all over again. It's fucking bullshit.

      1. Episiarch   13 years ago

        That's what you get for moving to the sticks. Too bad satellite "broadband" is still pretty slow.

        1. R C Dean   13 years ago

          I hear WildBlue's new satellites are much better. I live just outside the footprint of their highspeed coverage. Dammit.

          Fucking HughesNet is lagging like crazy. Bastards were supposed to have one for my area a couple of months ago.

          1. Episiarch   13 years ago

            Once they have real broadband coverage almost everywhere and safe reactors (fission or fusion) that are small enough to be put in a house to power it, people could conceivably live and work remote from almost anywhere on the planet, even Antarctica. That should satisfy you sticks guys.

          2. kinnath   13 years ago

            This is what I got a couple of months ago. 12 mbps download is cool.

          3. B.P.   13 years ago

            Wildblue is good. I have it up in the mountains here in Colorado.

      2. Generic Stranger   13 years ago

        I'd damn near kill for DSL right now. We're on fucking wireless, which isn't quite as shitty as satellite but close.

  22. Bobarian   13 years ago

    Unemployment rates rose in 23 states. Nevada leads with 12.1 percent.

    So how's whorehouse harry working out for you, bitchez!?

    On a serious note, I followed the link in that article and it says rates rose in 26 states and staid stagnant in 12.

    So 19 states got better? (57 - 26 - 12 = 19)

  23. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

    Lowest rated season premier for The Office. Thanks for running out of entertainment NBC!

    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

      As long as Community keeps going, I couldn't give a shit about the rest of NBC's lineup.

      1. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

        I was told Community is going to suck without Dan Harmon

      2. NoVAHockey   13 years ago

        I thought this was the last season?

        1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

          All eight episodes?

          1. NoVAHockey   13 years ago

            this is dated, but my understanding is that it's this 8 and I'll have to look elsewhere for Alison Brie

            http://articles.nydailynews.co.....cre-sitcom

            1. Episiarch   13 years ago

              I'd like to propose a law banning the canceling of any show Alison Brie is in. Who's with me?!?

              Also, NBC, hate to break it to you, but Revolution sucks. It's barely not as awful as Terra Nova. So you're canceling your best series and starting a crappy one. You guys are geniuses!

              1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

                Revolution? Six seasons and a movie!

              2. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                Maybe she could get work on BP's new Star Trek: Orion Slave Girls series on HBO?

                1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                  I've already called her agent. Then the cops called me, I'm not sure why.

                  1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                    Well, shipping the fifty gallons of green skin-dye may have been the problem.

                    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                      You assured me she would accept the role! I was just being proactive!

                    2. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                      Your mistake was going through her agent. She prefers face-to-face meetings.

              3. Pip   13 years ago

                "'d like to propose a law banning the canceling of any show Alison Brie is in. Who's with me?!?"

                Fuck Yeah!!

                http://img.flickkr.org/fvb/2010/01/Alison Brie/alison-brie-complex-04.jpg

                1. Pip   13 years ago

                  Squirrels. If you Google Image image her name, you get a picture of her licking an ice-cream cone.

      3. Proprietist   13 years ago

        Man, I really, really want to love Community more than I do. I've watched every episode, and it's a very smart show, with much of the same meta level comedy as Arrested Development.

        But I really get sick of the "look, a study group becomes a highly unlikely and exclusive clique of best friends then there is drama, then they always patch everything up at the end of the episode with some absurdly cheesy resolution about how much they mean to each other." They really should lay off the excessive, gross, fuzzy cheese and stick with the hilarious comedy.

        1. Proprietist   13 years ago

          Still, it's probably the best non-animated comedy on TV, although Parks and Recreation has its moments too.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    A new poll shows Americans trust the mass media less than ever.

    Not that I don't trust that poll, but how much do Americans trust polls?

  25. sloopyinca   13 years ago

    Because "fuck you!" that's why.

    1. tarran   13 years ago

      Postal inspectors deliver the mail now?

      1. sloopyinca   13 years ago

        They do when they're trying to entrap someone for pot possession.

  26. Trespassers W   13 years ago

    Unemployment rates rose in 23 states. Nevada leads with 12.1 percent.

    So rates fell or stayed flat in more than half of the states. Everything's coming up Milhouse!

  27. sloopyinca   13 years ago

    Cop hits pedestrian with car mirror and proceeds to pull a gun on the man when he gets pissed off.

    FTA: Montgomery County Police have not suspended or disciplined the officer involved in the incident, Starks said, and University Police spokesman Capt. Marc Limansky declined to identify the individual in question because the department did not make any arrests.

    Of course not. Pulling a gun on somebody who throws a water bottle at your car because you fucking hit him with it is a perfectly sane and reasonable reaction.

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      Officer fucked up. He left witnesses.

    2. Paul.   13 years ago

      One witness said the officer seemed belligerent and overly aggressive, but according to Limanksy, the statements taken on the scene conflict with each other.

      I'm sure they do. Opinion is undoubtedly divided: The officer says he didn't not act belligerently, everyone else says he did.

  28. Joe M   13 years ago

    But as the Postal Service embraces direct mail to shore up its faltering bottom line, it faces opposition. Cities struggling to pay recycling and landfill costs to dispose of billions of pieces of unwanted mail are objecting to the expense. Localities estimate that they spend about $1 billion a year to collect and dispose of it.

    Sounds like a perfect jobs program, with a multiplier effect and everything.

    1. db   13 years ago

      I have a plan to turn junk mail into fuel.

      1. Joe M   13 years ago

        I hope it's jet fuel.

        1. db   13 years ago

          Nah, it's a little more steampunk.

  29. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

    Checkmate, hon.

    1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

      Those look like thumbprints. When he goes down on her, she clamps her legs and asphyxiates the guy. In the struggle to live he leaves those bruises. Lucky bastard.

      1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

        Chaotician, chaotician, actually.

        1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

          Proof positive pussy eating asphyxiation has been Goldblum's fetish for well over twenty years and counting. Likely doesn't have enough brain cell material left to rub two synapses together at this point.

          1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

            Just remember: He was engaged to Geena Davis and Laura Dern.

            1. db   13 years ago

              Strong thighs there.

    2. Atanarjuat   13 years ago

      59 years old, dating a 29-year-old former Olympic gymnast? I should've taken acting lessons.

  30. Paul.   13 years ago

    J.P. Morgan and Bank of America claim their sites were attacked by the Iranian government, which then used the anger over Innocence of Muslims as a cover story

    It's a cover story the Obama administration is handing them, with a ribbon on it.

  31. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

    David Suzuki still hasn't figured out what an "externality" is

    Dr. Suzuki recites his oft-repeated claim that "economics is a form of brain damage" and here adds the allegation that economists "know damn well" that we deliberately deceive people into thinking economics is a science when in fact all we want to do is torch the planet for sweet, sweet cash.

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      When did Suzuki turn into such an angry little man? An angry, angry little man.

    2. Trespassers W   13 years ago

      all we want to do is torch the planet for sweet, sweet cash.

      Wait, wait, wait. I can get paid for this?

  32. Alack   13 years ago

    Eternally speaking, there is only one means and there is only one end: Private plane Wendy's. This is how we do.
    -Kim Kierkegaardashian

    My life is infinitely better now that I know this exists.

  33. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

    Man jumps into tiger cage at Bronx Zoo, gets mauled.

    1. Atanarjuat   13 years ago

      What a dipshit. I can't believe he lived. Though if that were a suicide attempt*, well, that's actually a pretty badass way to go.

      *I doubt it, because he apparently rolled under a wire to escape at the direction of the zoo staff.

  34. Stormy Dragon   13 years ago

    Oh, for all the people who were talking about how there's no over the top hero-worship in the Republican campaigns, there's this little gag-inducing pronouncement from Ann Romney:

    it's an important thing that we're doing right now and it's an important election and it is time for all Americans to realize how significant this election is and how lucky we are to have someone with Mitt's qualifications and experience and know-how to be able to have the opportunity to run this country.

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      Is it wise for any politicion to self-reflect and/or clamor for the chance to "run the country"? I don't think Obama would even go there. His fans? Probably, but him, or his crazy-assed public-healthifyin' wife?

      1. Xenocles   13 years ago

        I don't like the attitude that led to this, but it's a common enough expression for what the president does.

    2. R C Dean   13 years ago

      Its his wife, for crying out loud. Gag-inducing, maybe, but I don't really count it as hero worship if it comes from a family member or a paid flack.

      1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

        Frankly, given the love for Obama on some metaphysical level that's never been about experience, qualifications, or aptitude, this sounds almost rational to me.

      2. Stormy Dragon   13 years ago

        Oh please, can you imagine the response from the usual suspects if Michele Obama told everyone that they ought to be more thankful to have her husband running the country?

        1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

          I have to say, the term "run the country" sticks in my craw.

          1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

            Yeah, no likee that part.

            1. Dunphy (the real one)   13 years ago

              THAT i agree with, but the point about it being his wife is also true. it's in no way shape or form analogous to the obama cult of personality worshiip from people like S-Jo etc.

        2. Virginian   13 years ago

          Well, it's different in one important respect: We know Michelle's husband sucks at running the country. I actually don't think Mitt will be a bad President from the standpoint of your actual average citizen. For us, yes, he would be terrible.

          Now insert standard libertarian disclaimer regarding 1) "running the country" 2)Dems and GOP being two different colored soda pops.

          But Mitt Romney has a shitload of actual competence at being a day to day executive. This cuts both ways. If he sets out to do evil (which is very possible) it means he probably is going to accomplish it. But conversely it means the basic, day to day stuff, is going to run smoothly. Like, if he decides to arm the Mexican drug cartels, well....his guns will have GPS trackers and the drones will be bombing the crap out of said guns as soon as the cartel takes delivery.

          So, you know...evil but competent....maybe, just maybe.

          1. Stormy Dragon   13 years ago

            But Mitt Romney has a shitload of actual competence at being a day to day executive.

            Does he? He may be good at choosing companies to invest in, but I don't see where he was ever really in the position of running one.

            1. Virginian   13 years ago

              Well, you know....Bain Capital is a company. That he ran. Or at least was a high executive in.

              Look, I don't really like the fundraising pitch, but competence is not something Mitt Romney is lacking. I'm very concerned about what he would do with that competence, but it's most definitely there.

              1. Calidissident   13 years ago

                Being a businessman has nothing to do with being president. They're two completely different jobs, and you can be very competent at one and very incompetent at the other

                1. Virginian   13 years ago

                  Eh, I think competence carries over to some extent. Of the competent people I know, most of them would be competent at whatever they did. Competence to me springs from:

                  1)Intelligence. If you're not smart, you're not going to be competent.
                  2) Work Ethic. You can learn to do anything, but you have to put the work in.
                  3) Judgement. If you can surround yourself with competent people, then you're already halfway there.

                  I think Mitt has those qualities. They're polar opposites, him and Obama. Obama is breathtakingly incompetent. It's a rightwing talking point, but it's true. He's never in his life been responsible for anything, and then he's the guy in charge of the biggest organization in the country. His failure was inevitable. On the other hand, I wonder what exactly the enigma that is Mitt Romney wants to do with the federal government if he wins the popularity contest.

                  I find Mitt to be an admirable man in almost every aspect of his private life. The only problem I have with him is his search for political power, which I find suspect at the best of times. Right now, I think the only person who would want the job would be someone who relishes the challenge of saving a collapsing entity, or someone who wished to ride the wave of chaos for his own ends. I'm far too cynical to believe that he's the former, but it is possible, I suppose.

        3. B.P.   13 years ago

          "Barack is one of the smartest people you will ever encounter who will deign to enter this messy thing called politics."

      3. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

        . . . I don't really count it as hero worship if it comes from a family member or a paid flack.

        And it sure is a far cry from posing for photos with pro-Obama messages written in Sharpie on your hands.

    3. Fluffy   13 years ago

      Her plane apparently just almost crashed.

      Imagine the shitstorm at Gawker if Ann Romney died in a car crash and Mitt got to be the grief-stricken husband at a funeral 5 weeks before the election.

      1. Paul.   13 years ago

        Are you suggesting that Mittens had one of his goons cut the brake lines?

      2. db   13 years ago

        The plane made an emergency landing after the cabin filled with smoke. I didn't know Cheech and Chong were Romney supporters.

        1. Paul.   13 years ago

          They're not. Get it?

      3. ant1sthenes   13 years ago

        They'd be pissed off at him for pretending not to be as soulless as they know he is.

        That reminds me that Joe Biden lost family in a car crash. So now I don't hate him as much right now.

    4. Killazontherun   13 years ago

      You had to dig a quote from his wife to make your lame ass case everyone is as bad as the Obamabots? That's pathetic.

  35. db   13 years ago

    Anyone know the current percentage of the American work force that is directly employed by government (federal, state, local breakdown would be nice) and maybe even contractors indirectly employed?

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      Answer from a guy who put it together onfreerepublic from the Census Bureau.

      Number of Full-Time Federal Employees - 2,518,101 Part-Time - 250,785 Full-Time State - 3,818,577 Part-Time - 1,451,002 Full-Time Local - 11,039,250 Part-Time - 3,383,976

      http://www.freerepublic.com/fo.....6363/posts

  36. WigFow   13 years ago

    Dude sure does like to talk a LOT of smack!

    http://www.AnonFolks.tk

  37. Ted Levy   13 years ago

    "Unemployment rates rose in 23 states. Nevada leads with 12.1 percent."

    Such bias. Why not say unemployment did not increase in TWENTY SEVEN states?

    1. C. Anacreon   13 years ago

      I was told there would be no math.

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