Move Over Todd Akin! 3 Other Monstrously Dumb Comments About Rape
Featuring Whoopi Goldberg, Bernard Shaw, and Clayton Williams.
There's no question that Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) is mentally challenged when it comes to basic facts about biology, reproduction, and rape. Akin, who is running for Senate against Democrat Claire McCaskill, told a Show-Me State tv station that rape victims don't get pregnant because, "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." GOP standard-bearer and presidential candidate Mitt Romney dutifully condemned the comment as Democrats figured this can only help their side in every race around the country.
The upshot of Akin's stupidity? As HotAir's Jazz Shaw tweeted, "Akin manages to take this back into the Seinfeld campaign after we finally started talking entitlements."
Yet the candidate says he's not gonna drop out of the race and there's a good shot he can still win (McCaskill isn't anybody's idea of a strong incumbent). Win or lose, Akin can take some solace in the fact that you're never alone when you make really dumb comments about rape, especially in politically charged situations. Here are three montstrous examples of people saying stupid stuff involving rape.
Next: Let's Make Whoopi!
3. Whoopi Goldberg, Roman Polanski, and "rape-rape."
In 2009, Roman Polanski was back in the news due to a possible extradition from Switzerland to the United States stemming from the movie director's 1978 guilty plea to having "unlawful sex with a minor." Polanski fled the U.S. before his sentencing took place and is a fugitive who can't legally return to America. During a discussion of the case and its fallout, View co-host Whoopi Goldberg put forth a definition of sexual assault that puzzled just about everyone. "I know it wasn't rape-rape," said the Oscar-winning actress. "I think it was something else, but I don't believe it was rape-rape."
While there was a universal outpouring of condemnation for that statement, Goldberg didn't seem to suffer professionally for speaking her mind. In 2011, she garnered wide props for a public show of disgust at a Kathy Griffin joke calling the daughters of Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) whores. "If somebody talked about my daughter as a joke like that," said Goldberg, "I would beat their ass."
Next: We all figured a guy named Bernard Shaw would be much wittier than this.
2. Hello Kitty Dukakis, goodbye Democratic White House.
During a 1988 presidential debate between Republican George H.W. Bush and Gov. Michael Dukakis (D-Mass.), CNN host and moderator Bernard Shaw - obviously no relation to the chronically clever playwright George Bernard Shaw - opened the contest with this query to the anti-death-penalty Dukakis: "Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?"
Dukakis brushed the question aside with zero emotion, not even taking the full two minutes' alloted him to respond while drily saying, "No, I don't, Bernard…And I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life."
Shaw was roundly booed for asking such a question, but like Whoopi Goldberg, suffered no professional sanction for raising rape in such a cavalier manner (did Shaw need to suggest that the woman be brutalized before being killed? Did he mistake a presidential debate for a Brian de Palma movie?). He eventually retired from CNN in 2000. Dukakis went on to lose handily to Poppa Bush and become embittered over his treatment not at the hands of the media but of Bush's campaign team (watch the documentary Boogie Man, about GOP strategist Lee Atwater). Kitty Dukakis went on to become the punchline of at least two memorable Saturday Night Live skits, one based on the debate question and the other on her drinking problems.
Next: Is that a 10-gallon hat or do you just have water on the brain?
1. Clayton Williams makes "rape is like the weather" joke in 1990 Texas gubernatorial race.
In 1990, Republican Texas millionaire Clayton Williams looked like he was coasting to an easy win over Democratic candidate Ann Richards. Before a "working cow camp" event chock full of reporters, Williams compared the day's soggy weather to rape: ''If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it.'' Williams half-apologized for the comment, explaining to the press, "That's not a Republican women's club that we were having this morning…It's a working cow camp, a tough world where you can get kicked in the testicles if you're not careful.''
It turned out Williams did indeed end up getting kicked in the testicles - he lost a close race to Richards. At least his wife, improbably named Modesta, was there to nurse his wounds: ''If the word rape was in a joke, if sex was in a joke, it was just a joke,'' she told The New York Times. ''He's about as much of a gentleman, a caring person, as there is.''
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Archduke PantsFan| 8.20.12 @ 8:12PM |#
"I think we found someone Jon Gruden may not have a positive comment about."
I missed it. Did he puff Sandusky?
He's from Sandusky, OH
Akin will take his name off the ballot.
Even paid GOP fluffer Sean Hannity is calling for him to quit. They will put the woman on the ballot.
Says the Obama fluffer.
Bet shrike is just fine and dandy with Biden's "put you back in chains" line.
"if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down"
I bet Mr. Vagina Expert isn't stupid about just one thing.
I wonder what he has to say about how the Fed works.
"If it's a legitimate recession, the fed has ways to try to shut that whole thing down"
Yeah, it's even more scary when it's about the Fed, isn't it.
Yes.
How about this:
"If it's a legitimate rape, you didn't make that happen. Somebody else did that!"
meme^2
"If it's a legitimate war, the military has ways to shut the whole thing down."
WHOA! That one's kinda close to the mark...
Cut the guy some slack, he is obviously not well acquainted with vaginas.
"They're a series of tubes."
Too good to be an unpaid quip. Nick, cut the man a check. Wait. I don't have that kind of power. Sorry, Rich.
They can be pretty intimidating.
Especially when they're angry.
And they can be stubborn! Downright unreasonable, sometimes.
The worst ones are the toothed variety.
Akin's my Congressman. He's not bad, a bit too SoCon-ish, but good on other issues. That said, his comments to Charles Jaco, are just mind-numbingly stupid. Jaco is the essence of sniffy, effete liberal media here in STL, and Akin should have done a multi-point calibration of every single syllable he said. Instead, he stampedes ahead with this shit.
I just got an email that says he's staying in. I responded that he should drop, and drop now.
Akin is a staunch advocate of a federal prohibition of online poker. In 2006, he co-sponsored H.R. 4411, the Goodlatte-Leach Internet Gambling Prohibition Act,[18] and H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act. (Wiki)
He has been in the House since 2001 and without looking I bet he Voted for all the Bushpig Big Gov policies.
He is a fucking disgrace.
Mixed bag but did vote against TARP and Medicare Part D unlike Paul Ryan. Still a fuckstick for his foreign policy and social polices that you listed.
Yea on the Medicare Part D (both key votes)
http://votesmart.org/bill/3120.....n-drug-act
http://votesmart.org/bill/3863.....-drug-bill
hmmmm his opponent in the primary says he did and he says he didn't so I'll just put it down as "it's complicated." I was 16 and couldn't give a shit about politics at the time so I don't really know the intricacies of all the votes.
Here is the roll call:
http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/11944
He is gone anyway. He and Paul Ryan were tied at the hip and the GOP will smother him alive if they need to.
Hahahaha - the roll call? Congress-critters get to go back and change their votes as long as it doesn't change the outcome. It is the perfect yes-I-did, no-I-didn't system.
The final vote was 216-215 at 3am for the Bushpigs.
His vote was vital. Not only did it create Part D but also subsidies for Part C (Advantage).
Kinda reminds me of McCaskill's Obamacare vote, no? Each and every Senator that voted for cloture has his/her name on the law as the deciding vote.
But that's good statism, right?
Obamacare is not as bad as Part D. The latter was completely unfunded.
Yeah, I know, the mandate sucks but it can be avoided completely. Obamacare is a private insurance pathway with subsidies. Part D is too but was unpaid for.
Palin's Buttplug| 8.20.12 @ 9:55PM |#
"Obamacare is not as bad as Part D. The latter was completely unfunded."
Yes, dipshit, the cock you suck is better than that other one, right?
What an idiot.
Obamacare is orders of magnitude worse. It puts insurers on the path to insolvency, leaving the Central State as the insurer of last resort. It's marxism by the drink.
And McCaskill cast the deciding vote, along with votes spending trillions on stimulus and constituency-larding shit.
Why have the market values of the health insurers doubled since passage?
They wanted it. They didn't want Hillarycare (single payer). They even gave up their MA subsidies for it.
Stay out of finance, dude.
Palin's Buttplug| 8.20.12 @ 10:10PM |#
"Why have the market values of the health insurers doubled since passage?"
Uh, because the investors hope to profit before they tank? Sorta like Greek bonds?
Stay out of adult discussions, idiot.
Buyers are rushing into positions in a doomed market?
You are a moron.
Palin's Buttplug| 8.20.12 @ 10:22PM |#
"Buyers are rushing into positions in a doomed market?"
You actually posted that and expect to be taken for someone who knows jack about finance? You did that?
Exactly how stupid are you?
Buyers are rushing into positions in a doomed market?
It's all about timing. Buyers are being herded into the insurers now, so their profits will rise. Eventually, however, the loss ratio mandate will choke them to death.
Brutus| 8.20.12 @ 10:28PM |#
*Buyers are rushing into positions in a doomed market?*
"It's all about timing...."
Don't give shriek any hints; he'll learn a new word. Next week his posts will be all about "Timing"!
Of course contradicting everything he posted last week.
What an idiot.
Palin's Buttplug| 8.20.12 @ 9:55PM |#
"Obamacare is not as bad as Part D. The latter was completely unfunded."
I just gotta ask:
Are you a complete idiot who truly bleeves dems are actually superior to repubs?
Or maybe you get paid for posting your crap?
What possible motive could cause you to, day-after-day, post such ridiculous comments?
Sevo, You are guilty of troll feeding. Please buy everyone at the bar a drink. The idiot's arguments are pure TEAM BLUE apologetics. Arguing abouty it is moot. Obamacare is on the fast track to rape us financially, at this point repeal is not going to happen.
Your ass will hurt. Obama is looking like he could give Steve Smith lessons. Is it Comrad or Komrad? I get all confused.
Sevo, You are guilty of troll feeding. Please buy everyone at the bar a drink. The idiot's arguments are pure TEAM BLUE apologetics. Arguing abouty it is moot. Obamacare is on the fast track to rape us financially, at this point repeal is not going to happen.
Your ass will hurt. Obama is looking like he could give Steve Smith lessons. Is it Comrad or Komrad? I get all confused.
So Obamacare is OK with you because it includes tax increases for everyone? Everyone who actually makes a dollar.
There is nothing private about Obamacare. This comment is even more stupid than your usual drivel.
I see that it is at night so I will just assume that you are drunk off your ass and therefore even more inane than usual.
You use the term "private insurance". It clearly does not mean what you think it means.
He and Paul Ryan were tied at the hip
cite.
That too. Like I said, not a bad guy on things that matter. When I start filling out a morality 1040, I'll be more afraid of guys like Akin.
Um all the other things matter too. He's a terrible politician, it's just sad that he's actually "smaller" government than Paul Ryan who is being bandied about as some kind of anarchist.
My pick was John Brunner, personally.
All that quoting of Milton though makes me think he may be a secret SoCon.
He's all in favor of Social Security privatization, abolishing the Departments of Education, Energy and Commerce, abolish minimum wage and get rid of federal student loans.
I don't know about you, but I'd trade that for a little ol' gambling bill.
Talk is cheap. His voting record is dismal. And he voted for the Iraq War and the surge and all funding bills. And the Patriot Act and DHS.
I know, you are GOP too.
Then McCaskill must be lying.
So how does her voting record stand up, Shriek?
Palin's Buttplug| 8.20.12 @ 8:59PM |#
"Talk is cheap..."
Oh, the irony!
Doesn't seem to jibe with his vote for NCLB.
That is very true. NCLB is, was and always will be a travesty.
Hollywood came up with a solution to this problem years ago.
I find this to be an elegant self-defense measure.
Condoms With Teeth Fight Rape In South Africa
http://gizmodo.com/5569537/con.....uth-africa
I remember seeing that when it came out and all I could think is how much more the rapist will be pissed off after encountering that thing, increasing the woman's chance of being further injured. Unless it will cause debilitating pain to the rapist, she's better off without that.
Shooting them will also help identify them for the police.
JW| 8.20.12 @ 9:29PM |#
..."Shooting them will also help identify them for the police."
Especially true if they don't move much afterwards. Saves a chase.
I thought the same thing too, but then I remembered what they said in self-defense class, "hurt him bad enough to run away." It's not a fair fight, so sticking around does the girl no favors.
Plus, I'm pretty sure that something with teeth that can only be removed by a doctor causes pretty debilitating pain. Enough doubling over so the girl can scram before he even thinks to respond with violence.
Problem is, it really seems like a measure of last resort because the rape has to be in progress before the defense mechanism is relevant. Like with stun guns, which require close proximity. Guns are still best for nipping it in the bud...but for women who want one, a vagina dentata should be an option.
I never got how vagina dentata is supposed to be a scary thing. It's not like guys won't willingly put their dick into an orifice filled with teeth.
Bernie Shaw's rape question for was CNN's finest hour. It's not often the press can end a political career with one well-placed question.
Just like Chuck Jaco did, one SoCon down many to go.
Akin's career should be over but the election will be held in Missouri. If he hangs in there he's likely got at least another 6 years of life.
...and if there's one thing Missourians love it's incest-rape babies.
How could they hate themselves?
SIV| 8.20.12 @ 8:49PM |#
"Bernie Shaw's rape question for was CNN's finest hour. It's not often the press can end a political career with one well-placed question."
It'd be sweeter yet if it ended Shaw's career.
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Superman flying around after saving the world looking for a quick lay to ease his mind sees Wonder Woman sprawled naked in a field her lags spread out.
Seeing this Superman swoops in as fast as he can does his business and swoops out all in under a second.
Wonder woman says "what the hell was that?"
the Invisible Man replies "I don't know but my ass sure hurts"
...
RAPE JOKES ARE NOT FUNNY!!!
Apparently it isn't rape if she's sleeping, only rude.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/medi.....sange-rape
I've been concerned about George Galloway since he participated in this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ButQKpZ3uzg
God love British TV.
BTW, you'd be forgiven for confusing Rula Lenska with Pete Burns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJTOWTkFi4
I mean, not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion.
Comedy gold. Is permission required each time positions are changed?
/passive voice
I find it very peculiar that with all of this rape talk being bandied about there has been little to no STEVE SMITH references.
What the fuck, commentariat?
Bitches.
Just for that, STEVE SMITH is going to rape you down to sergeant.
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...LIKE A SPOTTED OWL
THAT RAPES HIKERS
Looking at McCaskill's not-so-bad record, maybe it is all for the better.
Re: Palin's Buttwipe,
The former is pretty unfunded as well, buttwipe. Saying that you are going to fund it with "savings" from Medicare (which is what Obamacare touts) is like saying that you can pay for the water in the pool by filling it from its leaks.
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If it's a legitimate rape...
As opposed to an illegitimate rape?
Oh here it is. An illegitimate rape:
Hey REASON,
You know what is really irritating? Having to tab through 4 pages to read a fairly short article.
You are called REASON, for a reason, so pull your head out and set this shit up so we can read it easily.
Thank you so much.
Weak!
There is forcible rape and statutory rape, and clearly Whoopi's comment was talking about that. Remember, if no force or fraud was involved, a good number of libertarians would have save Polanski committed no crime.
And Shaw's question didn't display any stunning ignorant of rape, or biology, but only of tact and fair play.
And did you hear Akin's apology? He says he sympathizes with the "thousands" of women who are raped and abused. But close to 200,000 women are raped each year, and many, many more are abused.
What someone should be asking is "What was the effed up source you got that crazy idea from, Rep. Akin, and can I get a look at it to find out what sort of other nonsense fills your head?"
Remember, if no force or fraud was involved, a good number of libertarians would have (said??) Polanski committed no crime.
The girl he didn't rape-rape was 13 and under the influence. He was 43. There are not many libertarians who would defend his behavior but stay classy.
Under the influence ... of a muscle relaxant. While he fucked her in the ass.
There is forcible rape and statutory rape, and clearly Whoopi's comment was talking about that.
Oh, well, if you drug the 13 year old so she can't fight, then it's not "rape rape". I see your point.
Piss off, Josh.
Stress actually decreases a woman's chances of becoming pregnant, so Akin sort of has a point.
But the Guv'mint needs to be involved in the decision making process why?
Who said anything about the government being involved? The Rep made a comment, he didn't author legislation.
Stress actually decreases a woman's chances of becoming pregnant, so Akin sort of has a point.
Not just sort of. There is scientific evidence that arousal increases the chances for conception. The "study" that claimed that there were more conceptions from rape than consensual sex were not scientifically valid. Like much of today's politicized "science" they were looking to effect public opinion rather than attempting to find the truth. So they compared all consensual sex with all rape, as if the number of times contraception was used was the same.
There are a number of reasons, stress included, that rape is less likely to cause conception.
I am so tired of politicians with this caliber of stupidity that it overflows onto everyone else and unfortunately telling him to resign is of little help because the lying left just says they all think that way and their only telling him to resign to hide their own beliefs.
I can barely stand the republicans as it is and this doesn't help at all.
Nick is slinging bullshit about Whoopi. She did not "put forth a definition of sexual assault." She was pointing out that the specific crime to which Polanski plead guilty was not "rape" (i.e. not California Penal Code Section 261) but "unlawful sexual intercourse"(i.e. California Penal Code Section 261.5). Notice that Nick himself does not state that Polanski plead guilty to rape. Is he also putting forth a puzzling definition of sexual assault?
SteveBrooklineMA| 8.21.12 @ 11:37AM |#
..."She was pointing out that the specific crime to which Polanski plead guilty was not "rape""...
Got a cite for that?
"She was pointing out that the specific crime to which Polanski plead guilty was not "rape" (i.e. not California Penal Code Section 261) but "unlawful sexual intercourse"(i.e. California Penal Code Section 261.5)."
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/ca.....9/1/s261.5
Nothing in there about drugging children, forcing them to strip while you photograph them nude, and then forcibly raping them against their will while they weakly try to resist.
I can only surmise you're some sort of brainless sack of shit, or a pederast yourself.
+1
Or simply a Hollywood suck-up willing to lie as required.
"Nothing in there about drugging children..." Indeed, that is the point. Whoopi was not describing what Polanski did to the victim, she was trying to be specific about the charge to which he plead guilty in court. Are you capable of understanding the difference? It is possible for a person to commit a horrible crime, yet plead guilty to a lesser charge.
Personally, I think it was a terrible miscarriage of justice. But the fact is that Whoopi is right: Polanski did not plead guilty to rape. He plead guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse.
You do realise that Clayton Williams was quoting Dorothy Parker, right?
He was vilified by the usual suspects for that but it had little effect on his standing in the polls. He lost the election because of his refusal to shake Ann Richards' hand at a debate - it was considered petty and ungentlemanly.
"clever playwright George Bernard Shaw"
You're clearly confused.
Whoopi showing her ass still cracks me up to this day. I guess Star Trek never rubbed off on her. egad.
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Isn't it better to say something monstrously dumb about rape than it is to say something monstrously evil about rape like Judge Napolitano did on this very website a few days ago? My respect for the Judge was waning when he used to fawn over Michele Bachmann whenever she would come on his show (like she's some kind of champion of liberty and limited government instead of the aspiring theocrat that she actually is) and that article may have killed off the majority of what was left.
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