Just like he told you, Ron Paul is continuing to rack up delegates and outright state wins in his continuing race for the Republican Party presidential nomination. In the Minnesota state Republican Party convention on Saturday, he came out controlling 32 of 40 delegates from the state.
The Park Rapids Enterprise reports on how Paul, who showed up to talk to his people at the convention the day before the final delegate vote, was received:
To chants of "President Paul," 2,000 Minnesota convention delegates welcomed the Texas congressman and presidential candidate.
"There are a lot of friends of liberty in this town," Paul said….
U.S. Senate candidate Kurt Bills endorsed Paul and Paul endorsed Bills. The Senate candidate said he will continue to back Paul until he is out of the race.
Several convention observers said that while Paul was well received, they did not hear probable Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney mentioned during the day-long convention.
Paul, who finished second to Rick Santorum in this year's precinct caucuses, told the Republicans that it is not just their party that latches onto his ideas.
"It is much, much bigger than this," he added, saying that independents "and even Democrats" support his ideas.
Things have changed for Paul since 2008 as his liberty movement grows:
Paul's Friday appearance was in stark contrast to four years ago, when he was banned from speaking to the Minnesota convention in Rochester. Instead, he talked in a light rain outside the convention center.
Many of the 2,000 convention delegates attended a state event for the first time.
A Paul campaign press release sums up all the good news for the campaign over the weekend, in a long game that extends beyond Tampa in August:
In Minnesota, Paul organizers won a decisive 12 of 13 delegates to the RNC at the Rivers Edge Convention Center in St. Cloud, wrapping up the North Star State's two-tier nominating contest. Earlier this spring, Paul supporters won 20 of 24 delegates at district conventions. In all, the Paul camp has swept the state of Minnesota winning 32 of the state's 40 national delegates.
In addition to Paul's consequential victory in Minnesota, Paul organizers won delegates in Mitt Romney's home state of Michigan. There, Paul supporters estimate that they have won eight voting slots plus one non-voting delegate and 11 alternates. Of the 14 Congressional District voting contests held this weekend, Paul organizers won RNC delegates in the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th, and 9th Districts, denying Detroit-born Romney a clean sweep of his home state. The Michigan victory occurred despite a heavy Romney campaign presence promoting a win for the establishment pick and presumptive nominee.
At the Vermont Republican State Convention this weekend, Ron Paul supporters won two of 14 national delegates, with two more considered potential allies, and they won 10 of 14 alternates. In all, Vermont has 17 delegates including super delegates.
Finally in Virginia, 11 district conventions have been taking place in recent weeks and have ended this weekend. In those contests Ron Paul supporters won 17 of 33 national delegates selected, with the remainder of the state's 49 delegates including super delegates to be selected at the June 16th state convention. Also in Virginia, Paul supporters elected a Republican Congressional District Chair in the Third District, over a dozen liberty-oriented Republican State Central Committee Members five of whom are Ron Paul supporters, dozens of Republican county and city committee chairs, and hundreds of county and city committee members.
From the Alaska Dispatch via Christian Science Monitor, a fair summation of where the campaign stands now:
[I]n Minnesota Saturday[,]"The Paul crowd pulled off a bloodless coup," the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported. "Unlike other states where brawls broke out between Paul fans and Romney supporters, the Minnesota convention was a relatively civil affair. There were no fistfights or shouting matches on the convention floor."
In a nutshell, that sums up what Rep. Paul needs to do as the Republican Party works its way toward the nominating convention in August: Keep supporters of his "revolution" revved up, laying the groundwork for what he hopes will be a prominent role in Tampa, Fla., while not coming across as a political curmudgeon trying to undermine the candidacy of presumed front-runner Mitt Romney (with whom, it's been reported, he has a good personal relationship)…..
"The ball is in the court of the Republican Party and the court of Mitt Romney," Jesse Benton, national chairman of Paul's campaign, told reporters this past week. "We're bringing forward an attitude of respect, and we're also bringing forward some very specific things that we believe in. If our people are treated with respect, if our ideas, their ideas are embraced and treated seriously and treated with respect, I think the Republican Party will have a very good chance to pick up a substantial number of our votes."
"On the flip side," Benton warned, "if they're treated like they were in 2008, a lot of people are going to stay home and a lot of people are going to sit on their hands."….
"Ron Paul started what his supporters call a revolution," Maggie Haberman and Emily Shultheis observe on Politico.com. "Now, that revolution is threatening to march on without him."
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I brought my daughter to the caucus this year (she just turned 18) and in our precinct Santorum won by a vote over Paul. She was pretty disappointed.
I told her that we should stick around for a few minutes. After the non-binding poll for the president, all the old geezers who voted for Santorum left and our precinct voted in all Paul candidates to the next level of conventions.
The daughter thought it was pretty cool to see how organized the Paul people were.
I told her that we should stick around for a few minutes. After the non-binding poll for the president, all the old geezers who voted for Santorum left and our precinct voted in all Paul candidates to the next level of conventions.
The game of "Musical Chairs" is generally learned in kindergarten. Maybe there's truth to the saying after all.
Same straw poll result in my caucus, though we had a couple Santorum delegates. There was no doubt about the split: old people - Santorum; young people - Paul. The elderly were surprisingly willing to give up delegate spots. I guess they needed their rest to wake up early for Baker's Square Free Pie Wednesday.
Think of it this way. In 2008 McCain beat Romney like a red-headed stepchild and Obama beat McCain like a crack baby in foster care. So how is it possible in 2012 that anyone who is self aware, even remotely, believes Romney can beat Obama. There is only one solution at this point and it ain't Romney. I'm sorry but I have to say it...quit being stupid and nominate the only person still in the race that can beat Obama.
Here's a question for the libertarians in Texas, should I go and vote for Ron Paul, or sign a petition to get Gary Johnson on the Ballet? In Texas, you can't both vote in a primary and ask for a 3rd party to be on the ballet. If other states have this rule as well, is there a chance that Libertarians will miss being on the ballet in 45+ states?
This is an easy one: GJ is already on the ballot in Texas. In Texas if a party gets 5% (I think) in a statewide race they get ballot access and the LP routinely does in races where no D challenges the incumbent R (like Supreme Court elections). Not only will he be on the ballot but there will be a straight ticket LP option just like with the R's and D's.
The LP has been on the ballot in Texas pretty consistently since 2004, which was the last year they had to petition, I believe. Here's my voting technique, btw, in order of priority:
1) Vote Libertarian.
2) Vote for any other third party candidate.
3) Vote against the incumbent.
4) If no opposition to incumbent, don't vote.
Joe, that is exactly how I vote! I just voted in the NM primary on Saturday. We have early voting now even though the official primary date isn't until June 5th. I wanted to vote for Ron Paul in our primary and I had to stay registered republican to do that. I contacted the voter registration department already so I can change my party affiliation to the LP. If Ron isn't on the ballot in November, I am voting again for our ex-governor Gary Johnson.
Is there a delegate tracker online somewhere that shows these actual. The ones maintained by the mainstream media seem incapable of grokking how caucuses work.
Does anybody have a running total of how many delegates Paul actually has? I keep looking, but all the stats I can find seem stuck back in early march?
The last county meeting I went to, there was a guest speaker imploring the old geezers to show up to the Iowa convention to prevent Paul from taking almost everything. The districts will elect 12 delegates the night before the state convention, and the state will elect 13 delegates (the nomimated slate includes Gov Brandstad, Sen Grassly, and 11 Paul supporters). So Paul could get 23 out of 25 delegates. The establishment party members are shitting bricks about pissing off the national committee.
In my heart of hearts, I want the GOP establishment brownshirts to go wild on the convention floor, ripping up Paul signs, instigating fights, and denying Paul delegates the chance to have their votes mentioned during the roll call. The mayhem (which the media will blame on RP's supporters nonetheless) will finally convince RP's supporters and other rational Republicans to vote for Gary Johnson and leave the war-mongering, social liberty denying, crony capitalist Republican party.
I expect the brownshirts will do this however the Paul people will be keeping a video record of everything that happens on the convention floor. They might even live stream it so it's going to be hard to blame the Paul people when the can prove it's the Romney people. The GOP can't win if the Paul people don't at the very least stay home.
"The ball is in the court of the Republican Party and the court of Mitt Romney," Jesse Benton, national chairman of Paul's campaign, told reporters this past week. "We're bringing forward an attitude of respect, and we're also bringing forward some very specific things that we believe in. If our people are treated with respect, if our ideas, their ideas are embraced and treated seriously and treated with respect, I think the Republican Party will have a very good chance to pick up a substantial number of our votes."
"On the flip side," Benton warned, "if they're treated like they were in 2008, a lot of people are going to stay home and a lot of people are going to sit on their hands."....
So this is Mr. Benton conceding that Ron Paul will not be the Republican nominee for President USA...yes? Therefore it would follow that Ron Paul will not be elected President USA in November 2012...no?
I don't think you can take anything Jesse say's at face value. He has a history of making badly worded statements. Besides at this point Paul no longer controls the r3VOLution. If the GOP treats the Paul people like shit, the Paul people will actively work against them. The Paul people have nothing to lose. The GOP is risking it's life at this point and most of them don't even know it.
First! In minnesota and HR
Confound it, what did they do to the "and" symbol?
Romney: Does not compute.
arent these delegates bound by state party rules to vote for the candidate who got the most votes?
Not in Minnesota, no. Every state has different rules. Minnesota's caucus vote is purely straw and nonbinding, these are Paul delegates.
I brought my daughter to the caucus this year (she just turned 18) and in our precinct Santorum won by a vote over Paul. She was pretty disappointed.
I told her that we should stick around for a few minutes. After the non-binding poll for the president, all the old geezers who voted for Santorum left and our precinct voted in all Paul candidates to the next level of conventions.
The daughter thought it was pretty cool to see how organized the Paul people were.
Was that in MN?
Never mind, you answered that below.
I told her that we should stick around for a few minutes. After the non-binding poll for the president, all the old geezers who voted for Santorum left and our precinct voted in all Paul candidates to the next level of conventions.
The game of "Musical Chairs" is generally learned in kindergarten. Maybe there's truth to the saying after all.
Same straw poll result in my caucus, though we had a couple Santorum delegates. There was no doubt about the split: old people - Santorum; young people - Paul. The elderly were surprisingly willing to give up delegate spots. I guess they needed their rest to wake up early for Baker's Square Free Pie Wednesday.
Why is Romney dragging this out? Can't he see that he has no chance?
Mittens should drop out "for the Party - for the Nation - for the Children."
Think of it this way. In 2008 McCain beat Romney like a red-headed stepchild and Obama beat McCain like a crack baby in foster care. So how is it possible in 2012 that anyone who is self aware, even remotely, believes Romney can beat Obama. There is only one solution at this point and it ain't Romney. I'm sorry but I have to say it...quit being stupid and nominate the only person still in the race that can beat Obama.
When it all goes to shit we get to say "We told you so." If we stocked up on food, weapons, and gold, we also get to survive.
thought we previously went to hell in a handbasket?
Doherty's relentless book shilling has single-handedly prevented that from happening.
Who in the world would want to survive Armageddon ??
He set us up the bomb.
"up us"
Your heart was in the right place though.
Here's a question for the libertarians in Texas, should I go and vote for Ron Paul, or sign a petition to get Gary Johnson on the Ballet? In Texas, you can't both vote in a primary and ask for a 3rd party to be on the ballet. If other states have this rule as well, is there a chance that Libertarians will miss being on the ballet in 45+ states?
This is an easy one: GJ is already on the ballot in Texas. In Texas if a party gets 5% (I think) in a statewide race they get ballot access and the LP routinely does in races where no D challenges the incumbent R (like Supreme Court elections). Not only will he be on the ballot but there will be a straight ticket LP option just like with the R's and D's.
The LP has been on the ballot in Texas pretty consistently since 2004, which was the last year they had to petition, I believe. Here's my voting technique, btw, in order of priority:
1) Vote Libertarian.
2) Vote for any other third party candidate.
3) Vote against the incumbent.
4) If no opposition to incumbent, don't vote.
I too can accurately predict an election's outcome by taking the inverse of my ballot.
Joe, that is exactly how I vote! I just voted in the NM primary on Saturday. We have early voting now even though the official primary date isn't until June 5th. I wanted to vote for Ron Paul in our primary and I had to stay registered republican to do that. I contacted the voter registration department already so I can change my party affiliation to the LP. If Ron isn't on the ballot in November, I am voting again for our ex-governor Gary Johnson.
Jeff Johnson is a county commissioner here and he made a pretty good speech at the convention. He told the old GOP whiners to get over it.
Is there a delegate tracker online somewhere that shows these actual. The ones maintained by the mainstream media seem incapable of grokking how caucuses work.
Does anybody have a running total of how many delegates Paul actually has? I keep looking, but all the stats I can find seem stuck back in early march?
Here's one that attempt to track the actual delegates... thereal2012delegatecount.com
thegreenpapers.com does a good job.
They havent updated MN yet, however.
The last county meeting I went to, there was a guest speaker imploring the old geezers to show up to the Iowa convention to prevent Paul from taking almost everything. The districts will elect 12 delegates the night before the state convention, and the state will elect 13 delegates (the nomimated slate includes Gov Brandstad, Sen Grassly, and 11 Paul supporters). So Paul could get 23 out of 25 delegates. The establishment party members are shitting bricks about pissing off the national committee.
In my heart of hearts, I want the GOP establishment brownshirts to go wild on the convention floor, ripping up Paul signs, instigating fights, and denying Paul delegates the chance to have their votes mentioned during the roll call. The mayhem (which the media will blame on RP's supporters nonetheless) will finally convince RP's supporters and other rational Republicans to vote for Gary Johnson and leave the war-mongering, social liberty denying, crony capitalist Republican party.
So they can achieve nothing-the ultimate nirvana of so many libertarians.
lulz arent an achievement?
I wouldn't call disrupting the Republican party, and the "two party" duopoly, "nothing".
I expect the brownshirts will do this however the Paul people will be keeping a video record of everything that happens on the convention floor. They might even live stream it so it's going to be hard to blame the Paul people when the can prove it's the Romney people. The GOP can't win if the Paul people don't at the very least stay home.
Park Rapids Enterprise?!?!? No way, its my home town newspaper!!!
Yeah, I was wondering about that too. The convention was in St. Cloud which isn't very close to Park Rapids.
I feel jobbed that my (old) hometown newspaper the DL Tribune didn't have anything on the convention that was worthy of being quoted Reason.
RP to Republican Establishment:
"YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME"
"The ball is in the court of the Republican Party and the court of Mitt Romney," Jesse Benton, national chairman of Paul's campaign, told reporters this past week. "We're bringing forward an attitude of respect, and we're also bringing forward some very specific things that we believe in. If our people are treated with respect, if our ideas, their ideas are embraced and treated seriously and treated with respect, I think the Republican Party will have a very good chance to pick up a substantial number of our votes."
"On the flip side," Benton warned, "if they're treated like they were in 2008, a lot of people are going to stay home and a lot of people are going to sit on their hands."....
So this is Mr. Benton conceding that Ron Paul will not be the Republican nominee for President USA...yes? Therefore it would follow that Ron Paul will not be elected President USA in November 2012...no?
I don't think you can take anything Jesse say's at face value. He has a history of making badly worded statements. Besides at this point Paul no longer controls the r3VOLution. If the GOP treats the Paul people like shit, the Paul people will actively work against them. The Paul people have nothing to lose. The GOP is risking it's life at this point and most of them don't even know it.