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Politics

You Can Tell Romney Is a Radical Because He Says He Believes In Freedom

Peter Suderman | 4.26.2012 3:24 PM

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You know how you can tell that Mitt Romney is a "radical" anti-government extremist? Because he says he believes in freedom. So says E.J. Dionne:

Romney is right in saying he has "a very different vision" from Obama's, and this is where the magic comes in. He envisions "an America driven by freedom, where free people, pursuing happiness in their own unique ways, create free enterprises that employ more and more Americans. And because there are so many enterprises that are succeeding, the competition for hardworking, educated, skilled employees is intense, so wages and salaries rise."

Just like that, all would be well -- as if we never needed the trust-busting of the Progressive Era, the social legislation of the New Deal, the health programs of the Great Society, and the coordinated action of the world's governments in 2008 and 2009 to keep the Great Recession from becoming something far worse.

This is Romney's true radicalism. I suspect it is a principled radicalism. 

That's right: Romney is such a devout anti-government radical, so deeply opposed to any kind of large-scale government action, that in his 2010 book, No Apology, he praised the Trouble Asset Relief Program (TARP) for having "prevented a systemic collapse of the national financial system." He's such a zealot that he argued that after President Bush's $150 billion stimulus program, "another stimulus was called for" and agreed that the $800 billion stimulus President Obama passed in 2009 "will accelerate the timing of the start of the recovery." Such is the depth of Romney's fanaticism that he went out of his way to pick a fight with GOP primary rival Rick Perry for calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme, and on his own website declares that "the Republican nominee must be someone who is committed to saving Social Security."

Romney's radicalism is so "true" and "principled" that as the governor of Massachusetts, he raised business taxes after promising not to, paid for the nation's first near-universal expansion of health coverage using a special grant of federal Medicaid funds, and developed and signed a health care plan that would serve as the model for ObamaCare. He now consistently knocks the sitting president for being the only president to ever have cut Medicare—which Romney says is "wrong."

Some might not see this record as particularly radical. But Dionne knows better than journalists who might draw their conclusions from any such evidence: 

What Romney has going for him is a journalistic presumption that he is either a closet "moderate" or so opportunistic that he is altogether lacking in a coherent worldview. The first is wrong. The second is unfair to Romney.

So forget all the ways that Romney has acted in favor of and voiced explicit, repeated support for the the social legislation of the New Deal, the health programs of the Great Society, and government action in response to the economic instability of 2008 and 2009. Romney has made some platitudinous remarks in favor of "freedom"—free people, free enterprise, individual pursuit of happiness, competition, and all the rest of that ridiculous "capitalist magic." And anyone who claims to believe in any of that nonsense must truly be a radical at heart. 

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  1. Barfman   13 years ago

    *barf*

    1. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

      Thank you, barfman. If ever the world needed you, it's now.

      Also, EJ Dionne is a little lisping pussy who hasn't said or written anything right in my lifetime. Other than that, he's a great guy.

      That is all.

    2. Brutus   13 years ago

      Word.

      If EJ Dionne fucked Dahlia Lithwick, Oliver Wendell Holmes would have their progeny sterilized.

  2. Loki   13 years ago

    as if we never needed the trust-busting of the Progressive Era, the social legislation of the New Deal, the health programs of the Great Society, and the coordinated action of the world's governments in 2008 and 2009 to keep the Great Recession from becoming something far worse.

    Because those things are such obvious truisms that there's no point in even considering otherwise.

    Why am I not suprised E.J. Dionne also has a punchable face?

    1. Pip   13 years ago

      1,000 sheep like this.

    2. Card Carp   13 years ago

      ^^^ THIS ^^^

      There is no debate. All of these Progressive Era programs must be accepted as utopian, without flaw or unintended consequence. Any critique of the perfect only serves to display a deep seated insanity and dangerous radicalism.

    3. Jerryskids   13 years ago

      Funny how they are so good at redistributing wealth but not so hot on creating the wealth to start with.

      But I can't believe anybody would be so stupid as to believe anything Mitt says has anything to do with what he believes. Or that either has anything to do with what he does.

      1. Brandon   13 years ago

        Near as I can tell, the only things he actually believes are magic underwear and that he should be president for some reason.

  3. Joe M   13 years ago

    Peter, seriously, why would you drag E.J. Dionne's relentless idiocy here? The guy is a partisan moron of the highest order, and has absolutely nothing original or interesting to say about anything.

  4. Warty   13 years ago

    I'm amazed how much E.J. Dionne's retardation makes me want to vote for Romney.

    1. Joe M   13 years ago

      His casual dismissal of the concept of freedom is all you need to know.

    2. Apatheist ?_??   13 years ago

      Here's some TEAM RED drek to make you hate him again:

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html

      1. Warty   13 years ago

        Look at that man's face. How does he manage to make it so punchable? I had a hard time not destroying my monitor.

      2. Joe M   13 years ago

        That's the same asshole who wrote this about Ron Paul last year.

    3. John Thacker   13 years ago

      Narcissism of small differences.

      It's amazing the way trivially different moderates portray the other as extremists. Whatever works to distract the extremists on their side.

      I'm amazed how much E.J. Dionne's retardation makes me want to vote for Romney.

      That's basically the point. E.J. Dionne and the similar people on the Right get people to keep voting for the Establishment characters of each team.

    4. Dagny T.   13 years ago

      The title of his book makes me want to punch him in the face as much as the high level of retardation in the mere titles of his articles. "Souled Out"? Fucking really? Cool pun, bro.

      1. Warty   13 years ago

        He ruined that title for any future compilations of soul music, that racist prick.

  5. Joe M   13 years ago

    Seriously, I used to read his shite in the local rag before the Internet, and I could never stand him. I'm almost offended that the contents of his mind could be beamed into mine through my monitor.

  6. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

    OT: Does the left always have to threanen apocolypse if we don't implement their commie/green ideas?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/envi.....ul-ehrlich

    1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

      Actually it's probably not that OT

      1. Tman   13 years ago

        I'm hoping Ron or someone does a post about this.

        The fact that in the article Ehrlic is called "The world's most renowned population analyst" is enough to make me want to vomit blood.

        HOW DOES THIS MAN STILL HAVE A JOB???

        WHY DOES ANYONE STILL LISTEN TO HIM???

        1. Mainer2   13 years ago

          "If you want a battery chicken world where everyone has minimum space and food and everyone is kept just about alive you might be able to support in the long term about 4 or 5 billion people. But you already have 7 billion."

          So we are currently supporting three billion people more than the maximum we could possibly support in a "battery chicken" life. Can you say contradiction ?

          1. Tman   13 years ago

            This guy is so full of shit it's coming out of his ears.

            The Guardian should be sued for making a statement that "most of his predictions have proved correct".

            Not even CLOSE.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.....redictions

          2. Dr. Frankenstein   13 years ago

            It's the Matrix, we're nothing more than 7 billion batteries having a collective hallucination.

            1. Tman   13 years ago

              Also there was the Simon-Ehrlich wager, which he also was wrong about. I really fucking hate this guy.

          3. Jerryskids   13 years ago

            So we are currently supporting three billion people more than the maximum we could possibly support in a "battery chicken" life.

            He said "in the long term". I'll bet you if you check back in a hundred years, a substantial portion of those 3 billion will be dead.

            1. Brandon   13 years ago

              But what about the 5 billion that replace those?

        2. db   13 years ago

          More to the point,
          WHY IS HE STILL CONSUMING PRECIOUS RESOURCES!!??

          1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

            Yeah, no shit. He's old. He's lived a full life. If he believes his own bullshit he should bite a bullet.

            1. db   13 years ago

              He can eat a dick-shaped bullet.

              Wait, call the Patent Office, Jeeves! Another million dollar idea!

    2. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

      And it's the same fucking moron who was dead wrong 30 years ago. They are still listening to Erlich?

    3. Warty   13 years ago

      "Most of the predictions [in Population Bomb] have proved correct.

      Ha!

    4. Barfman   13 years ago

      The guy who wrote this spectacular turd is the "world's most renowned population analyst"???

      1. Barfman   13 years ago

        Oops, I mean *barf*

      2. T   13 years ago

        How many other population analysts can you name without googling, smart guy?

        Renowned just means everyone knows who he is.

        1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

          Way to jack that ass, T.

        2. Mainer2   13 years ago

          Would notorious be better ? Infamous ?

    5. Somalian Road Corporation   13 years ago

      The new hot meme that I'm seeing run through leftist sites/forums (Glen Greenwald's comment section in particular comes to mind) is that, sure, Obama is a murderous authoritarian tyrant, but he's serious about atoning for mankind's sins against Gaia, so we have to reelect him.

    6. Ex Nihilo   13 years ago

      We came up with 1.5 to 2 billion because you can have big active cities and wilderness... But you already have 7 billion. So we have to humanely and as rapidly as possible move to population shrinkage."

      Ok, how do you humanely kill off 5 billion people?? It surprises me that people still listen to this idiot.

      1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

        I remember reading a book way back when where they did like this russian roulette thing with pills, where everyone took a pill once a day or month or something and a certain percentage of the pills were lethel. And of course everyone considered it their patriotic duty to passively comply for the preservation of the species. Don't remember the name though. Of course we had Soylent Green and Logans Run as well back then. Yeah, As TMan mention, don't know why anyone still listens to this guy.

        1. Ex Nihilo   13 years ago

          everyone took a pill once a day or month or something and a certain percentage of the pills were lethel.

          Ok, so more corporate welfare for Big Pharma. Maybe this is where Obamacare is leading us?

          Of course, if he really believed this, he would lead by example, right?!

        2. db   13 years ago

          I don't fucking think so. If you want me dead because I'm sucking up precious resources you better come at me with a knife and expect to get blood on your hands. No fucking way am I sacrificing myself for your dumb ass if you're not willing to do the dirty work yourself. This sounds like one of the most loathesome ideas I've ever heard.

          1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

            I'm not positive but I think it might have been early in the book "Lucifer's Hammer" which is a kick ass book if you've never read it.

            1. db   13 years ago

              I think I have that on my shelf but have never read it.

              1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

                You defintely should.

      2. db   13 years ago

        Fuck this guy. Some people cannot stand to live in cities.

    7. hamilton   13 years ago

      Christ, people still _listen_ to Ehrlich? Really?

    8. Loki   13 years ago

      The optimum population of Earth - enough to guarantee the minimal physical ingredients of a decent life to everyone - was 1.5 to 2 billion people rather than the 7 billion who are alive today or the 9 billion expected in 2050, said Ehrlich in an interview with the Guardian.

      Ehrlich's only semi-redeeming quality is that unlike most of the green commies he's at least upfront about his belief that the world would be better off with a reduction of the human population of greater than 50%. Most aren't that upfront about what their ultimate goal really is.

      That said he's a total ass clown, and the fact that there are people who still take him seriously after he's been wrong on every fucking prediction he's ever made is one of the main reasons for my continueing cynicism about the human race.

      1. Marshall Gill   13 years ago

        But he absolutely is not up front about how what he wants would have to be implemented. How do you reduce the population by several billion without mass murder? You can't.

        Until the turd says, "I want billions to die for my beliefs" then he is still full of fucking shit.

    9. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

      Does the left always have to threanen apocolypse if we don't implement their commie/green ideas?

      When it's all ya got . . .

  7. CockGobbla   13 years ago

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0

    I pledge!

    1. sticks   13 years ago

      I pledge to kick, in the cunt or nuts, everyone in that video.

      1. CockGobbla   13 years ago

        Except Anthony Keidis, whose commitment to the development of funk/rap/metal in the face of an overwhelming intellectual disability makes him a shining example to us all.

        1. Card Carp   13 years ago

          Really? I kind of always wished he had overdosed under that bridge.

        2. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

          There is nothing metal about the Chili Peppers. Never has been, and sure as fuck not these days.

          1. BigT   13 years ago

            I pledge to flush only after a deuce not a single

            Hate to follow that a-hole.

    2. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

      That made me nausous. Seriously, if I'd have watched the whole thing I would have hurled. Let's see how they keep their pledges to be sweet and lovely when there is a republican president.

    3. Barfman   13 years ago

      *barf*

    4. General Butt Naked   13 years ago

      Ashton Kutcher is going to represent America with dignity?

      What the fuck? Really?

      I'm goddamn flummoxed here, speechless I tells ya'.

      And these half-'tarded out fucking globe trotting millionaires telling me they're going to save the planet by drinking less bottled water and not using plastic bags at the fucking grocery store. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE IT! FUUUUU...someone quickly, give my face the business end of a rusty clawhammer...put me out of my goddamn misery.

      If this is the consequence of a free market I'm going commie. Fuck it, if I could see Ashton Kutcher in a goddamn gulag, waterbottless(OMG!!) it would be fucking worth it. Sorry Cameron, you used too many water bottles now get in the fucking pit.

      1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

        Here you go General. Not to piss you off more, but here's Kutcher's actual contribution to saving the planet.

        http://lifestylesrich.blogspot.....k-out.html

        1. General Butt Naked   13 years ago

          That truck will come in real handy at a people's collective farm. Thanks dude...now get in the fucking pit.

      2. Rhywun   13 years ago

        not using plastic bags at the fucking grocery store

        When I lived in Germany 20 years ago the eco-lefty argument was that plastic bags save trees.
        Fast forward a couple years and the same folks in America arrived at the exact opposite conclusion.

        That's one of things that started to get me thinking these folks might not know what they're talking about.

        1. acidovorax   13 years ago

          When I lived in Germany 20 years ago the eco-lefty argument was that plastic bags save trees.

          Anytime someone claims that doing x will save trees, I realize they have no clue what they are talking about. Decreasing the demand for wood in one industry allows for the surplus to move to other wood using industries.

  8. Warty   13 years ago

    In 2004, I was really happy that Bush won. After a while, I couldn't remember why. It was a great puzzle to me, until I read that garbage by E.J. Dionne just now. It's almost enough to make you want to vote for that pukesack Romney, isn't it? Amazing work, E.J.

    1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

      I don't get why these douchbags don't having the same effect on everyone else that they have on us.

      1. Eduard van Haalen   13 years ago

        Because lots of people live in a universe where Dionne's remarks are true - Republicans are libertarian radicals who genuinely wish to abolish all government programs other than the armed forces and Koch Foundation.

        1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

          Seriously, you have to be a fucking moron to believe that. The Republicans abolished what social welfare programs exactly? They cut spending where? They stopped regulating business when?

          1. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

            It doesn't matter. The only truth in socio-politics is the narrative. Anything else is meaningless when you're a team player.

            Remember, we have always been at war with East-Asia.

          2. Marshall Gill   13 years ago

            Seriously, you have to be a fucking moron to believe that.

            Yes, and that includes around/over half of the population.

  9. Hugh Akston   13 years ago

    So which is worse, Dionne's casual dismissal of freedom as the prime mover of society, or his baffling credulity of ROMNIAC's profession of belief in it?

    1. Warty   13 years ago

      One is stupid, one is evil. It's a matter of preference, really.

  10. Ska   13 years ago

    When you cross Alan Alda's appearance with progressive hack writing, you get EJ Dionne's amazingly punchable grill.

    1. CockGobbla   13 years ago

      Sutherland was the better Hawkeye, bye the way.

      1. CockGobbla   13 years ago

        or, "by the way."

        What the fuck ever.

        1. A Serious Man   13 years ago

          Incidentally, MASH was the first major studio motion picture to use the word "fuck".

          1. CockGobbla   13 years ago

            Didn't get the humor, but the pornish-cinematography was kinda memorable.

  11. Doctor Whom   13 years ago

    But Dionne knows better than journalists who might draw their conclusions from any such evidence:

    FIFY.

  12. A Serious Man   13 years ago

    I would vote for Romney if, during a debate, he screamed "frrrreeeeeeddddooommmm!" and E.J. Dionne died at that exact moment. Throw in the entire NYT editorial board too.

  13. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

    Between Dionne, Erlich, and the Pledge bullshit, this is the most puke-worthy thread in a long time.

    1. CockGobbla   13 years ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oh6Av_Z1Wk

      I liked the French original, but the American version was okay.

    2. Warty   13 years ago

      Very true. This thread needs kitten pictures.

      1. Ska   13 years ago

        omg omg omg

        1. Warty   13 years ago

          OMG LINKAGE

          Giving serious thought to seeing them this weekend.

          1. Dagny T.   13 years ago

            Black-footed Cats are found in the grasslands and savannas of Botswana, Namibia, Zimbabwe and South Africa

            Think they'll let me bring one home?

            1. Warty   13 years ago

              I'm gonna ask the zoo. Maybe if I squeal loud enough, they'll give me one to shut me up.

              EEEEEEEEEEEEEE

          2. Paul.   13 years ago

            Is the Zoo a long drive from Collinwood?

            1. Warty   13 years ago

              What the fuck are you doing in Collinwood, white boy?

              1. Paul.   13 years ago

                Who you callin' white? And besides, I might be polish.

                1. Warty   13 years ago

                  Well then, you wouldn't live in Collinwood anymore.

                  And to answer your question, about half an hour.

        2. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

          Yeah, they want you do think they're all innocent. They'll scratch your eyes out in a heartbeat.

      2. DesigNate   13 years ago

        Thank you Warty, that almost made everything about this thread better.

    3. Warty   13 years ago

      I'm gonna name this puppy E.J. Dionne. Then I never have to get a rageboner when I see that name again, do I?

      1. Marshall Gill   13 years ago

        Dude, what did that puppy ever do to you? Kill it, torture it, feed to a politician, but calling it EJ Dionne, is simply over the line!

    4. plu1959   13 years ago

      I think Thursday has become backpfeifengesicht day at Reason.

      1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

        Maybe we should switch the day so we don't go into the weekend all pissed off:) Do it Monday's when everyone's already pissed off anyway's.

  14. Paul.   13 years ago

    EJ Dionne is a regular contributor on NPR. You don't get to be a regular contributor on NPR if you believe the Bill of Rights applied to the states.

    1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

      Or if your not a lying sackoshit DNC shill.

  15. Registration At Last!   13 years ago

    Republicans stand in the United States of America in 2012 -- a society that is as "free market" and capitalistic as any country of substantial size on earth, now or ever in history -- and speechify as if they are railing against Pol Pot's Cambodia, or some Tudor-Era regime of mercantilist guilds.

    This is an inherently suspicious use of rhetoric. It strongly -- very strongly -- suggests that Republicans mean something radically different from the ordinary usage of "freedom." Republicans use the word "freedom" the way George Wallace used the word "disorder" -- pure, unadulterated coded dog-whistling for something too ugly and unpopular to be discussed in frank and straightforward terms.

    Dionne is not out of line calling Romney out. If Romney feels he is being mischaraterized, then he should set the record right with a plain, simple, and detailed explanation of his true intentions -- for once in his life already.

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      Dionne is not out of line calling Romney out. If Romney feels he is being mischaraterized, then he should set the record right with a plain, simple, and detailed explanation of his true intentions -- for once in his life already.

      Perhaps some thoughtful person could provide links where Romney explicitly supports TARP, defends social security as not being a Ponzi scheme, or supported bailouts, too big to fail and stimulus.

      1. Registration At Last!   13 years ago

        None of those ad hoc, post hoc bullet points improvised on the trail in response to mini-controversies during the primary campaign gives us a true understanding of Mitt Romney's policy program.

        Mitt's policy agenda, to date, is some sort of "secret plan" to painlessly rocket the economy back to full employment -- much analogous to Richard Nixon's "secret plan" to win the war in Viet Nam: pure bullsh!t that will end in tears and disgrace.

        1. General Butt Naked   13 years ago

          Sounds like you're describing Barack Obama four years ago.

          1. Registration At Last!   13 years ago

            Under Obama, we are stuck with a mildly pro-cyclical slog that will require years to return to previous employment levels.

            Under Romney, we would get that, or worse, plus a much more toxic culture-war and foreign policy agenda -- quite possibly an ill-planned war in Iran.

            1. NeonCat   13 years ago

              Thank God Obama will give us a well-planned war in Iran.

            2. DesigNate   13 years ago

              Yeah, cause Obama isn't itching for that you fuckwit.

              1. T o n y   13 years ago

                If you think that then you haven't paid attention to anything going on in the world.

                1. DesigNate   13 years ago

                  $

        2. Paul.   13 years ago

          None of those ad hoc, post hoc bullet points improvised on the trail in response to mini-controversies during the primary campaign gives us a true understanding of Mitt Romney's policy program.

          Au contraire... They tell us exactly what kind of president he'll be. He'll jump on whatever hip, new government simulus, do-something plan that pops up without any real grounding philosphy to give you any clue as to what he'll do next.

          These are just the remarks that tell us that Romney will in fact do something... anything to rocket the economy back to full employment.

          And he unambiguously supports RomneyCare. He's Bill Clinton with a pompadour.

          1. NeonCat   13 years ago

            But (presumably) less extramarital sex.

            1. BigT   13 years ago

              Less extramarital sex because he's got multi-wives??

              Just imagine if old Mitt added a few bitches while he was Prez! That would be awesome.

              1. Bill Dalasio   13 years ago

                Does that mean, in addition to a First Lady, we'd have a Second and Third Lady?

    2. Randian   13 years ago

      I see your comment is in English, but it somehow has zzero discernible meaning or correspondence with reality. You're the TimeCube guy of politics.

      1. T   13 years ago

        I thought the TimeCube guy covered politics, via the "it's all a conspiracy" angle.

      2. Registration At Last!   13 years ago

        The handle says it all. Whether you mean Ayn or Paul, you are beneath contempt.

        1. Episiarch   13 years ago

          Thanks for your input, Mary.

          1. Warty   13 years ago

            NUH UH ITS NOT MARY SHE TOTALLY SAID IT WASNT

            1. Registration At Last!   13 years ago

              My prior identities included "Danny" "we" and "there is no we"

              1. Registration At Last!   13 years ago

                but not "mary" (and I never even saw her posts)

            2. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

              Typical - what I'd expect from a gambol lockdown STATE[ist] like you, Evil Doer.

    3. R C Dean   13 years ago

      something too ugly and unpopular to be discussed in frank and straightforward terms.

      OK, I'll bite. What is this disgusting thing that Republicans mean when they use the word "freedom"?

      1. Registration At Last!   13 years ago

        They mean Social Darwinism.

        1. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

          They mean your mom

        2. ant1sthenes   13 years ago

          Progressives don't hate Social Darwinism because of the implied harshness or the selection against the socioeconomically disadvantaged, they hate it because they prefer Social Intelligent Design.

          Rather than have the emergent forces of society and individual choice put selective pressure against unproductive or anti-social traits by limiting the extent to which others with cooperate with the antisocial or unproductive, they'd rather empower technocratic experts to identify undesirable people or traits and use targeted social or medical programs to prevent their reproduction.

          How to the Chinese put it? Managing population quantity and quality?

          1. Registration At Last!   13 years ago

            ant1sthenes walks up to the push-the-analogy-too-far machine and cranks it up to 11.

        3. Jordan   13 years ago

          Yes, the party of George W. Bush, the president who increased the size of government more than any other president in history (until Obusha), with a Republican congress, is clearly in favor of Social Darwinism. Derp.

        4. Brutus   13 years ago

          Aaaaahhhhhahahahahahaha!!!

        5. Brutus   13 years ago

          That's. Fucking. Hilarious.

      2. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

        "Freedom" is code for not letting special people spend your money. That's racist, classist, sexist, and unmutual.

        1. Paul.   13 years ago

          I thought that freedom was a code word meaning I would spend my money. Am I special?

          1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

            Libertarianism is unmutual, extreme, and is responsible for every death ever.

            1. Marshall Gill   13 years ago

              Since Libertarianism has been created billions of people have died!

      3. Paul.   13 years ago

        RA is partially correct. It's not so much a code word in as much as it's a lie. He keeps hammering the word "freedom" to let the rest of the GOP know that somewhere, deep down, he supports a smaller government.

        But Romney is lying. He doesn't support "freedom" at all.

    4. ant1sthenes   13 years ago

      Romney's true intentions are to get elected. Trying to get at the secret, hidden meaning of freedom is pointless, because it's only meaning to Romney is that focus groups like the word.

      1. T   13 years ago

        +270

        Romeny's been running for the presidency for at least a decade, probably more. Mitt Romney's core principle is simple: Mitt wants to be president.

        1. NeonCat   13 years ago

          Ever since Daddy Romney didn't get the job, probably.

        2. John Thacker   13 years ago

          True. It's also totally different from Barack Obama's core principle: Barack wants to be president.

          The biggest difference is that that Obama, like other successful politicians, is very good at pandering, whereas Mitt is sometimes laughably bad.

          It's actually the most endearing thing about Romney, to me, that he's so bad at pandering.

          1. Brutus   13 years ago

            I think we should disqualify anyone who wants the job that badly.

    5. Loki   13 years ago

      E.J., is that you? It has to be. Noone else is that stupid.

  16. Paul.   13 years ago

    Oh, and for you guys that live in purple-ish states, Dionne's comment will be, alas, barf-inducing.

    To those of us who live in bluer-than-blue-found-in-nature-blue enclaves, this is how the bidness of politickin' is done.

    Two candidates (both Democrats) are facing off in an election. Both are affirmative-action supporting progressives with strong green credentials and support light rail.

    During the campaign, one of them will accuse the other of being a right-wing radical.

    If Sidran is so insensitive to minorities, why is Gov. Gary Locke, the nation's first Chinese-American governor and a Democratic Party leader, also a vocal Sidran supporter? Could it be he knows both candidates and picked the one more qualified?

    Only in Seattle, as Murray succinctly notes, would a pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control pro-affirmative action Democrat such as Sidran be vilified as a right-winger.

    1. Dagny T.   13 years ago

      God I hate local Seattle politics. It is a big ol' barf-fest. The only bright spot in the voter's pamphlet is motherfucking Goodspaceguy.

      1. The Last American Hero   13 years ago

        I'll second that.

        1. Dunphy (the real one)   13 years ago

          i was called in (for the first time ever) to provide security at a local political meeting yesterday... a propos of ^

          apparently, there have been DISRUPTORS.

          they looked pretty 'normal', not sure if either of them were epi.

          they didn't disrupt. there were (at least) 3 video cameras during the meeting, so it definitely would have had good video.

    2. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

      I am hopeful that at least Seattle will slide into the ocean when California goes. However, if it takes the whole state of Washington with it, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for the team.

      1. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

        Mostly I'm still bitter about grunge and Starbucks, which I blame on Portland and Seattle - so Oregon's gone, too.

        1. Paul.   13 years ago

          Portland just discovered the 90s. Hence Portlandia. Portland: 15 years behind Seattle.

    3. Dunphy (the real one)   13 years ago

      yes. the lefties refer to him as 'darth sidran'. it's pretty amazing

  17. plu1959   13 years ago

    The Pusher Robots must retain power at all costs.

    1. gaijin   13 years ago

      Long live the shovers! 😉

      1. db   13 years ago

        He is malfunctioning!

  18. R C Dean   13 years ago

    OT:

    Quick, go check out Drudge. Another masterpiece of juxtaposition in the photo he chose to accompany the headline:

    "The President Has a Big Stick."

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      You know who else had a big stick?

      1. R C Dean   13 years ago

        Al Capone?

        1. T   13 years ago

          No, man, FDR.

          1. Randian   13 years ago

            Wrong Roosevelt

            1. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

              Eleanor Roosevelt says, "No, I think he's talking about the RIGHT Roosevelt, wink wink!"

            2. T   13 years ago

              There wasn't really a right one.

      2. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

        Keith Moon?

      3. A Serious Man   13 years ago

        Andy Kaufman?

      4. BigT   13 years ago

        Milton Berle!

  19. T o n y   13 years ago

    Romney, of course, is no radical, as he has no ideological allegiance whatsoever.

    It is beyond question that the Republican party that he hopes to lead has become a far-right radical political entity, and he will either be forced to shapeshift to conform (as he did in the primary) or be eaten alive by it.

    1. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

      yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

      What? Oh, Choney? Then don't bother - I don't care what you said.

    2. Mainer2   13 years ago

      It's Thursday

      1. T o n y   13 years ago

        Who's the troll, the one who says the plain, obvious truth, or the ones who show up on a libertarian blog butthurt over criticism of Mitt Fucking Romney?

    3. Old Mexican   13 years ago

      Re: Tiny,

      It is beyond question that the Republican party that he hopes to lead has become a far-right radical political entity,

      Especially since the party has proven to be oh-so-different from their spendthrift counterparts in the Dem party.

      and he will either be forced to shapeshift to conform (as he did in the primary) or be eaten alive by it.

      Sure, just like Bush fis morphed into a rabid libertarian and shunk the size of government... right?

      You probably left stains in your bed sheets after dreaming that one, Tiny. Who do you think does the laundry? Your mommy?

    4. Brutus   13 years ago

      What does one do to be "far right" in Tonystan?

      1. DesigNate   13 years ago

        Increase spending to only 4.9Trillion.

        I love that Tony, and everyone that thinks like him, really believe there is an assholes width of difference between the two parties.

  20. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

    Since Romney is a Mexican immigrant polygamist (that's what I learned on the news the last couple weeks), does that mean his 5 or 50 (I lose track) Mini-Me sons are teh ANKUR BABEEEZZZ!!!?!!????

    I'm just asking questions here...

    1. Dagny T.   13 years ago

      Almanian, surely you know it's not enough to merely ask the Tough Questions, you must then summon the courage to Post the Answers on YouTube. Then and only then will we finally settle this MexInvasionNAFTASuperHighway!!11!

      1. Warty   13 years ago

        Shut the fuck up, LoneDagny.

        1. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

          That made me shoot a little pop out my nose.

          "LoneDagny" - baahahahahahaha!

        2. Dagny T.   13 years ago

          You even remembered the traditional response! *Sigh*

          1. Warty   13 years ago

            P.S. In case anyone replies to this, their responses will almost assuredly be ad homs, thereby conceding my points and showing the childish, anti-intellectual nature of Dagny T.

            1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

              Ahhh, memories. I almost miss LoneDipshit.

              1. T   13 years ago

                He was probably the best monomaniacal troll we had.

      2. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

        Don't forget teh DANJERUSS TRUCKS WIFF NO BRAYKS AND NO MAYTAYNUNSS SKEDYOOL SWERVIN IN UR ROADZ AND KILLIN UR CHIRRENSS AND AMINULS AND STUFF!!!11!!one!!!

  21. A Serious Man   13 years ago

    You have bled with Romney, now bleed with me!

  22. DEATFBIRSECIA   13 years ago

    This is why I think Ron Paul should run third-party. It's almost impossible to draw any meaningful distinction between the policy aims of Rombama and Obamney. Most people, even hard-core partisans will pull the lever holding their nose. RP has already pissed off the Republican establishment with the state takeovers of party apparatuses, and so roll the dice I say and throw your damn hat in there Ron! We can't survive four more years of this slow march to fiscal insolvency and tyranny.

    1. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

      2 problems with this scenario:

      Ron Paul would likely lose, and a 3rd party run would absolutely ruin Rand's chances at, well, everything he tries forever were Daddy Paul to run as a 3rd party candidate and ensure an Obama re-election.

      Whether the true cause or not, Paul would take ALL of the blame.

      1. Old Mexican   13 years ago

        Re: mad libertarian guy,

        There are actually four problems listed there, mad:

        a) Paul loses,
        b) Ruins son's chances,
        c) Obama wins,
        d) Paul gets blamed for everything.

  23. MikeP   13 years ago

    Freedom? Freedom? That is worship word. For Yang worship. You will not speak it!

    1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

      This is the correct comment. Hit & Run editors, I now call on you to delete all of the other comments in this thread except for Cloud William's/MikeP's.

      1. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

        E Plabnista!

        1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

          Freakin' geeks.

          1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

            Who is the geekier? The geek, or the one who knows what he's talking about?

            1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

              I freely admit to being one. I'm just bustin' balls.

              1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                Kroykah!

                1. MikeP   13 years ago

                  Logical. Flawlessly logical.

    2. Brutus   13 years ago

      F.T.W!!

  24. Gladstone   13 years ago

    So accusing Republicans of being radical libertarians because they are the opposition and want to raise next year's spending 20% as supposed to 30% has been the Dems modus operandi since what Woodrow or FDR's time?

  25. Formerly Almanian   13 years ago

    Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose."

    Er...wait...no...

  26. Killazontherun   13 years ago

    http://media.reason.com/mc/psu.....=435&w=375

    God, I hate that movie. More pretentious fuckcockery than all of black and white government subsidized Swedish cinema of the previous seventy years put together. Wild Strawberries was actually pretty good, come to think of it.

    1. Gladstone   13 years ago

      Braveheart was more pretentious than Bergman?

      1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

        Open your fucking eyes and read. That is exactly what I said.

      2. Paul.   13 years ago

        Literally worse than hitler.

      3. Marshall Gill   13 years ago

        One night while enjoying a particularly interesting LSD trip I watched Braveheart with my wife. It is actually one of the funniest comedies ever made.

      4. Killazontherun   13 years ago

        People latch on to Braveheart because it fills their lack of authenticity gap. I applaud the writer's gift for exploiting a character weakness of his audience the way I applaud the trick of an illusionist.

    2. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

      Battle scenes were great.I enjoyed the movie actually. Highlander was pretty good too. Never watched the series though.

      1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

        Got to admit I enjoyed two things about it, the battle scenes and Gibson dying an excruciatingly painful death. The bluster though, so over the top it could have been directed by George Lucas.

        1. Gladstone   13 years ago

          "The bluster though, so over the top it could have been directed by George Lucas"

          Not sure I would call that more pretentious than Bergman though.

    3. Dagny T.   13 years ago

      fuckcockery

      This is really the best place in all the 'tubes to increase one's word power.

      1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

        Thanks! Now you and Warty go make some babies; it's exactly what Paul Erlich would want you NOT to do. Therefore, you kind of have t'.

        1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

          I imagine Warty's baby looking something like this:

          http://www.freakingnews.com/Al.....-60885.asp

          1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

            Aww, what a cutie! That is the kind of genetic diversity that our species needs.

        2. Dagny T.   13 years ago

          His overpowering musk alone has the power to impregnate, remove shoes, and transport a girl to his well-armed bunker.

      2. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

        That was on his word of the day calendar.

    4. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

      I thought it was okay, though it butchered history something awful.

      Also, Patrick McGoohan.

      1. Dunphy (the real one)   13 years ago

        braveheart is one of those movies that is "cool" to hate. and by hate, i don't mean saying "it's a crappy movie", but the kind of rhetoric we see above. people actively love to loathe it.

        it seems to cross the political spectrum, because i have read plenty of similar comments at various political blogs.

        1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

          I liked it well enough.

          1. Dunphy (the real one)   13 years ago

            i liked it too.

  27. Old Mexican   13 years ago

    Just like that, all would be well -- as if we never needed the trust-busting of the Progressive Era, the social legislation of the New Deal, the health programs of the Great Society, and the coordinated action of the world's governments in 2008 and 2009 to keep the Great Recession from becoming something far worse.

    Yep, that's right - we never did need them, E.J.

    The "Trust Busting" you so highly tout was a sham; the New Deal made the Great Depression worse and its so-called "social programs" sunk a lot of people into dependency; the health programs of the Great Society are bankrupting the nation, and who the fuck said we were in a recession? We're in another depression, made worse by those "coordinated efforts" you mention.

  28. David Emami   13 years ago

    There are people whom I can respect despite the fact that I disagree with them. There are people I disagree with whom I nonetheless find interesting. Dionne fits in neither category. Even if I agreed with him, I'd regard him with scorn and boredom. All he puts out is dull, predictable, Acme Standard Liberal spin. Others have called him the Democrats' version of Baghdad Bob, but that's unfair to Bob, who at least managed to be unintentionally-funny. A Dionne column is basically the Cliff's Notes version of whatever the vanilla liberal position is on that issue.

  29. han   13 years ago

    A very good article.

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