Romney and Santorum Fight for 54 Illinois Delegates, Obama to Visit the DMZ, Robert DeNiro's First Lady Joke Offends: P.M. Links

• Today is the Illinois primary! Here are five points CBS would like you to consider about the cut-throat, neck-and-neck, dog-eat-dog contest for 54 Illinois delegates and the leadership of the free world and stuff.

• 7.6 earthquake hits Mexico, thankfully there are no reported injuries. 
• Obama is going to check out the DMZ for the first time, maybe he'll finally end that Korean war awkwardness.
• This gets worse and worse: Trayvon Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend when he was shot and killed.
• The Supreme Court wonders whether juvenile offenders should ever be given life without parole.
• Ron Paul is still getting dollars, 3.3 million of them in February, in fact. Rmoney lived up to his name and raised about nine million.
• Robert DeNiro's joke that America may not ready for a white First Lady is apparently a big deal, especially to Newt Gingrich.

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

Robert DeNiro's joke that America may not ready for a white First Lady is apparently a big deal, especially to Newt Gingrich.

Newt Gingrich. Is that guy still around?

[RBS]

I've read the article and joke several times. I have no idea why it was supposed to be funny.

[Robert DeNiro]

I'm guessing you're white.

[Suki]

I'm not taking anyone's side.

[I, Kahn O'Clast]

White AND Conservative probably.... You seriously don't get it? Your irony sensor has malfunctioned. What's really funny is GinGrinch's over-the-top response....

[John]

So does DiNiro making that joke mean it is okay to constantly post on facebook next January about being a part of history watching America's first black President leave office? Is that joke going to be okay or racist?

[sloopyinca]

Not sure. I just hope that it's still relevant come next January.

[Mongo]

Doesn't DeNiro have tha Fever? Would that be relevant...?

[Realist]

DeNiro can get away with that kind of stuff because he's not white....he's Italian.

[BakedPenguin]

Especially since Gangrench has made more than his share of comments far worse than that

[RBS]

White and libertarian, I get what DeNiro was saying or trying to say, it's just pretty lame. Newt's reaction is great though. Although I am getting tired of politicians/semi-famous people constantly trying to force other politicians/semi-famous people to apologize for shit.

[DK]

"Callista Gingrich. Karen Santorum. Ann Romney. Now do you really think our country is ready for a white First Lady?" De Niro asked, according to a pool report from the fundraiser.

I guess Ron Paul is in a mixed marriage.

[David]

Do you think DeNiro could handle Virginia "Mrs. Justice Clarence" Thomas as first lady?

[Suki]

Not judging by his newsletters.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Obama is going to check out the DMZ for the first time, maybe he'll finally end that Korean war awkwardness.

Maybe he can bring his light to North Korea.

[Pro Libertate]

President for Life, bitch! Go for it!

[sloopyinca]

He's going so he can look across the border and see his second term energy policy in action.

[Pro Libertate]

And his economic vision.

[John]

Why are the tax payers paying to send the older Obama brat and 12 of her friends to Mexico? She is 13 years old. Who the fuck goes to Mexico on spring break when they are 13?

[Brandon]

Your betters. And because Fuck You, that's why!

[sticks]

rich kids. duh.

[Neu Mejican]

Who the fuck goes to Mexico on spring break when they are 13?

I would guess lots of kids from the SW...you aren't picturing these kids hitting the clubs for a wet T-shirt contest are you?

[John]

Ah no. I grew up in the Southwest. And no one I knew went to Mexico on spring break that young. 17 maybe. but not 13.

[Neu Mejican]

Ah no. I grew up in the Southwest. And no one I knew went to Mexico on spring break that young.

Seriously? I had friends that spent almost every school vacation in Mexico...even in elementary school.

[sloopyinca]

Yeah, with their parents maybe.

[Neu Mejican]

Or an Uncle, or grandparents, sure.

By 13, I certainly went on trips without my parents as a member of a group of kids. Which is what this trip seems like.

But, I look forward to the Sean Hannity piece about how this is the worst misuse of spring break funds of any president ever.

[sloopyinca]

By 13, I certainly went on trips without my parents as a member of a group of kids. Which is what this trip seems like.

Really? I have a feeling I would have ended up a ward of the state if I went off on a vacation with a bunch of other 13 year-olds.

Who are you, Kelly Leak?

[Neu Mejican]

Really? I have a feeling I would have ended up a ward of the state if I went off on a vacation with a bunch of other 13 year-olds.

They were always chaperoned at some level, of course. Band trip, whatever.

[Neu Mejican]

And, by band trip, I mean drug fueled bender, but there were always adults "making sure" we stayed out of trouble.

[sloopyinca]

And, by band trip, I mean drug fueled bender, but there were always adults "making sure" we stayed out of trouble.

At 13 years of age? I'm sorry, but this sounds like the biggest bunch of bullshit I've heard since White Indian was given his walking papers.

[Neu Mejican]

At 13 years of age? I'm sorry, but this sounds like the biggest bunch of bullshit I've heard since White Indian was given his walking papers.

Well, I started doing drugs at about 11. By 13 it was pretty much a daily hash habit. Band trips usually involved 'shrooms or something special. And booze...which was harder to get.

[sloopyinca]

Yeah, band trips that were probably a little less than 2,600 miles away in the middle of a third-world country. But you keep telling yourself that this is normal if it makes you feel better.

[Neu Mejican]

Yeah, band trips that were probably a little less than 2,600 miles away in the middle of a third-world country.

Never been to Amarillo Texas have you. It doesn't matter how far it actually is, it might as well be 2600 miles away from civilization and, well, Texas is like a whole 'nuther country...

[sloopyinca]

Way to move the goalposts, asshole.

Just admit you're wrong and move on with your life. It's not that hard.

[Neu Mejican]

You are taking this discussion WAY too seriously. But if you want the breakdown the goal post started at

Kids don't go to Mexico for springbreak.
This got moved to "13 year olds don't go on trips without their parents"
Which then got moved to "don't go to 3rd world countries 2600 miles away without their parents"

I can't move the goalposts in this discussion. Your goal posts are like rainbows, the keep moving away from you no matter how fast you approach them.

[sloopyinca as NM]

Go Team Blue!
Rah! Rah! Rah!
Go Team Blue!
Rah! Rah! Rah!

[Shut the fuck up]

"Never been to Amarillo..."

and this is obviously where he realizes he said something profoundly stupid and tries to weasel out of it.

Let's watch!

[Neu Mejican]

This discussion is profoundly stupid all the way down. I have no problems admitting it. I am impressed that you managed to make it more stupider.

[sloopyinca]

I am impressed that you managed to make it more stupider.

I forgot: which law does this fall under?

[Neu Mejican]

The one where your sarcasm meter is faulty.

[WTF?]

"Sarcasm" the already proven liar says...

[Gray Ghost]

Gotta' go with sloopy on this one. Normal 13 year old kids don't go to Mexico on Spring Break, unless they're seeing relatives down there or it's part of some larger family vacation. Of course, considering how often this family goes on vacation (as well as the Bush's before them) I shouldn't be surprised.

Like watching MNG with Fast and Furious, I'm curious why you're so committed to this argument, Neu?

[Neu Mejican]

Like watching MNG with Fast and Furious, I'm curious why you're so committed to this argument, Neu?

I am avoiding work.

The funny thing is this...I just found John's comment funny, since I remember so many kids going to Mexico with their family for spring break. And I remember (in a foggy fashion) those trips without the parents when I was 13...killing time and all.

Sloopy getting all attack dog was just kinda funny, so I decided to troll a bit. As in...push his buttons. I mean he wears them big red ones in the middle of his forehead.

Once anyone gets all "burden of proof" on an internet discussion of this little importance, well, why not be an asshole back?

[sloopyinca]

Once anyone gets all "burden of proof" on an internet discussion of this little importance, well, why not be an asshole back?

Sounds like a defense made by someone that never has facts to support his claims. And based on what I've seen of you, this should have been expected.

[Neu Mejican]

Sounds like a defense made by someone that never has facts to support his claims. And based on what I've seen of you, this should have been expected.

Dude, you were challenging me to provide proof for claims I never made. Then after spending some time as goalpost mover, you claimed I was moving them. You are a riot.

[WTF?]

Once anyone gets all "burden of proof" on an internet discussion of this little importance, well, why not be an asshole back?

Why not just admit you have no proof instead of coming up what you think are clever ways to avoid admitting you have no proof, like you did there.

[Episiarch]

And I remember (in a foggy fashion) those trips without the parents when I was 13

Which brings this to a head, you made a dubious claim based on nothing but your own dubious anecdote.

Instead of simply admitting such, you proceeded to make excuses, then claim you were trolling on purpose.

Did I miss any of the other "standard internet asshole made a fool of himself " reactions from you?

[Neu Mejican]

When did I ever claim to be anything other than a standard internet asshole? You folks are getting mightly self-righteous 'round these parts lately.

[Episiarch]

When did I ever claim to be anything other than a standard internet asshole?

Why si your reading comprehension so poor that you think that is what I'm referencing?

You really do read poorly, as you've admitted.

[Neu Mejican]

Why si?
Que no?

[Episiarch]

Why si?
Que no?

Classic internet troll, lost on the facts, lost on straight debate, resorts to that.

You were wrong. Blame me all you want, you admitted it.

[Episiarch]

By the way, that's yet another of the ""standard internet asshole made a fool of himself " reactions".

At least try to be original.

[Episiarch]

Wait...I was WRONG? That sounds like an assertion

If it is, it's yours since I was agreeing with you.

I may be wrong about the continued SS

ANd with that, any claim of intelligence from you loses all credibility.

Get back to us when you're not so fucking stupid that you can't keep track of what you said, while pathetically trying to turn some kind of imaginary tables on the people who are laughing at you for your stupidity.

[Shut the fuck up]

"I am impressed that you managed to make it more stupider."

All I had to do was ask you to post.

[John]

Sure with their parents. Absolutely. Not not alone. That is the weird part.

Sorry I didn't make that clear. Yeah, lots of people went to see the cousins in Mexico during spring break. But this isn't that.

[Maxxx]

Yeah,

It's not like she went to Kenya.

[hector]

She's getting guns for uncle Holder

[T]

She's getting running guns for uncle Holder

I think this may be closer to the truth.

[Auric Demonocles]

No one. Spring break is for college kids. Rich spoiled kids go on March vacation to Mexico.

[shrike]

John never complained about the Bush twins and their costs - 100% certain.

[John]

They were college students. And show me where they ever took trips to Spain and Mexico on the taxpayer dime.

[Fluffy]

That's the crazy part to me - she's 13. Not even 14, as I had thought this morning.

Who lets their 13 year old vacation alone?

They are totally parents from a Bret Ellis novel. I guess they think, "Well, our children are perpetually in the care of strangers anyway, so who gives a damn if those strangers are up the road at Sidwell Friends or in Mexico or in Switzerland or whatever?"

"People in LA are afraid to merge." - signed, the Obama daughters

[John]

Sending your 13 year old off to spring break in Mexico is just weird.

[Neu Mejican]

They had secret service going with them to wherever they went...you realize that, I am sure.

[sloopyinca]

Oh, we realize it. It's the Secret Service that's raising them after all. I doubt Barry or Michelle even know their kids' shoe sizes anymore.

I hate to be judgemental, but they seem like awful parents who are living the life they want at the expense of raising their kids.

[Neu Mejican]

I was referring to the Bush twins who apparently went places "not on the taxpayer dime"

[sloopyinca]

Oh, well it won't be hard for you to point out a news story talking about the Bush girls taking a dozen friends to a third-world country without either of their parents for vacation.

I'll be waiting...

[Neu Mejican]

iirc the twins are STILL getting secret service protection...recent trips to Latin America and Africa are well enough documented...why should I google for ya?

[sloopyinca]

why should I google for ya?

Because you're the one that equated the two sets of kids when the Bush's were in the White House. You made the claim. You back it up.

And I'm not sure they are getting protection still. Could you provide a citation to that claim as well?

[Neu Mejican]

I didn't equate them. I said they never went anywhere without being on taxpayer's dime. I never made a claim about their destinations. You are really, really bad at this.

[Neu Mejican]

And I'm not sure they are getting protection still. Could you provide a citation to that claim as well?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50.....03544.html

Sorry you are so google challenged

[sloopyinca]

Thanks for that three year old link that was less than 3 months after Bush left office.

Anything...what's the word...current?

[Neu Mejican]

Sorry you I am so google challenged

FIFM

[Red Rocks Rockin]

why should I google for ya?

Because shifting the burden of proof is what you do?

[Neu Mejican]

RRR,

You've got that pronoun mixed up methinks.

Sloopy was asking me to help him prove HIS point.

[Neu Mejican]

To reiterate, for those that have reading problems.

The Bush twins were using the taxpayer's dime wherever they went. I make no claims regarding knowledge of where they might have gone on spring break. They are, I believe (hard to verify - but see the link), still using the taxpayer dime for SS protection and have recently gone on several high profile trips abroad. As per standard internet citation etiquette...if it is easily confirmed, you are just being an ass to ask for the other party to confirm it. If it is obscure, I am comfortable with the need to point you to the source.

Okay. I have wasted enough time.

[sloopyinca]

Okay. I have wasted enough time.

Finally, NM speaks some sense.

[Episiarch]

if it is easily confirmed, you are just being an ass to ask for the other party to confirm it.

No you sad little troll, that's just how you intend to avoid admitting you have no citation.

And I read your link, you still have no citation.

By the way asshole, is it "hard to verify" or "easily confirmed" you lying fuck?

[Beefy King]

"Okay. I have wasted enough time."

You should never consider getting others to laugh a waste of time.

That it was at you is secondary.

[Neu Mejican]

I've been laughing this whole time.

[sloopyinca]

Yeah, and he did it by posting a link that was from 2-1/2 months after Bush left office as opposed to today.

And by the way, the last president to get lifetime Secret Service protection is Bill Clinton...the guy who signed the law grandfatering protection for himself but cutting all subsequent POTUS's off after 10 years.

[MJ]

Why does that surprise me not at all?

[Gleek]

Why should they get even 10 years of protection? For 10 days after leaving office seems more appropriate.

[Episiarch]

Sloopy was asking me to help him prove HIS point.

That you're a disingenuous asshole who says shit like "why should I google for ya?"

Well, we call that "Neu Mejican's Law" now.

[Neu Mejican]

Ohhhh...he noticed me.

[shiver]

Ya'll are way too invested in this shit.

Sloopy was trying to nit-pick a fight. His argument was tangential, but fuck it. I may be wrong about the continued SS...that is what iirc means. I guess the reading problems are deep 'round here.

[sloopyinca]

Your whole point was based off the "iirc" comment, so it's fair to call you on your point.

You know what? Piss on this turd. I'm not gonna do this much longer. Besides, there's plenty of dunphy bait on the site today. Hopefully that asshole will show up and explain to us why that Chicago cop was in the right.

[dunphy]

as usual, you are deluded. why do you assume i would defend the chicago cop?

unlike you, i defend people when the evidence supports it and i criticize them when the evidence supports it

unlike you, i am not a bigot. i care about case facts, not identity

[sloopyinca]

This is a pretty good spoof, I have to say.

Funny, your comments on the Chicago cop story are not showing up. Hmmm?

And perhaps you would care to comment on the video I posted in that story as well. If that's not a bullshit stop, I don't know what is.

[sloopyinca]

On second thought, I hope this is the real dunphy. I've got a lot of posting to do to shut him the fuck up about "no double-standard," "cops are held to a higher standard," and "just following orders is a defense" and the rest of his inane bullshit.

[reasonoids]

unlike you, i am not a bigot.

fuck you liar

[Neu Mejican]

sloopyinca|3.20.12 @ 6:16PM|#

Your whole point was based off the "iirc" comment, so it's fair to call you on your point.

Fair. I guess. But that is not when you challenged me. You challenged me when you said.

it won't be hard for you to point out a news story talking about the Bush girls taking a dozen friends to a third-world country without either of their parents for vacation.

I never claimed that they did. You were asking me to provide you evidence for some point that only existed in your own head.

[Episiarch]

But that is not when you challenged me. You challenged me

Isn't it fucking pathetic that he's relying on that line of reasoning, he's pretty clearly aware that he made a fool of himself and is trying to avoid admitting it.

[sloopyinca]

I gave up.

[Neu Mejican]

Wait, I have greater endurance for meaningless tangential one-upsmanship than sloopy? Does that mean I won the internets?

[Episiarch]

Does that mean I won the internets?

Sorry, no, you resorted to the classic troll "google it yourself" variation, you never had any chance after that.

[Neu Mejican]

Oh well, then it is decided. I won't be able to continue getting Epi to respond to me. Nothing I say will get him to waste more of his time.

[Episiarch]

Oh well, then it is decided. I won't be able to continue getting Epi to respond to me. Nothing I say will get him to waste more of his time.

Huh? Are you smoking crack?

I can't figure out how you got that from my post, or why you don;t recognize your own quotes troll.

[Episiarch]

You don't even recognize your own spew!

Why would anyone care what you think after that debacle?

[sloopyinca]

No, it means that I have more important things to do than watch you construct the gallows you will hang yourself with.

Well, that or I didn't want to hog all of your time. There's others that want to have their chance making you look like an idiot, and I'm not selfish.

[Neu Mejican]

That line of reasoning?
Look up thread. Sloopy asked me to provide him evidence of some shit he pulled out of his ass. I asked why he wanted me to google it for him.

I then made an iirc claim, that clearly was pulled out of my ass, did some shoddy googling, got an old link, opening admitted it was fucked up...(see 6:09 pm)...and then got a bunch of internet tuff guys claiming I wasn't admitting something.

You are really bad at this shit.

[Episiarch]

Wait...I was WRONG? That sounds like an assertion

If it is, it's yours since I was agreeing with you.

I may be wrong about the continued SS

And with that, any claim of intelligence from you loses all credibility.

Get back to us when you're not so fucking stupid that you can't keep track of what you said, while pathetically trying to turn some kind of imaginary tables on the people who are laughing at you for your stupidity.

[Neu Mejican]

Wait, I think I just (p)refuted Epi...apparently he can't keep track of what I have said. Must mean it is time to get back to work...or was a long time ago.

[Episiarch]

That line of reasoning?

I couldn't believe it either.

Sloopy asked me to provide him evidence

And you failed. That you don;t understand what you were asked for, and think it's what you claim, is your fault, and the fault of your teachers and parents.

I then made an iirc claim, that clearly was pulled out of my ass,

Like everything else you post.

You are really bad at this shit.

Standard internet troll-fu.

At least try not to be so derivative.

[Neu Mejican]

And you failed.

Like I said. You are really bad at this.
I refused to provide him evidence for a claim I didn't make.

[Episiarch]

I refused to provide him evidence for a claim

Because you had none, so you failed.

Like I said. You are really bad at this.

And any time now you'll try another troll-fu tactic.

Why do you think pointing out that you're a troll helps you...

[Neu Mejican]

It is true, I had no proof for the claim that I did not make. Episiarch is right as usual. Why do I even try?

[Episiarch]

more silly troll-fu.

[Neu Mejican]

And yet it keeps you posting.

[Episiarch]

Yeah, troll, that's the point of the board.

How fucking stupid are you?

[MNG]

You keep posting too though.

[Beefy King]

I guess the reading problems are deep 'round here.

Unusually modest for you, but still, you admitted your problem, that's the first step.

[Episiarch]

Exactly as expected, you were wrong so you minimize it and run.

[Neu Mejican]

Episiarch|3.20.12 @ 6:17PM|#

Exactly as expected, you were wrong so you minimize it and run.

Wait...I was WRONG? That sounds like an assertion. Now YOU have the burden of proving to me that my recollections are inaccurate. If you punk out on this assignment it is because you are somehow less than human...

[Episiarch]

Wait...I was WRONG? That sounds like an assertion

If it is, it's yours since I was agreeing with you.

I may be wrong about the continued SS

ANd with that, any claim of intelligence from you loses all credibility.

Get back to us when you're not so fucking stupid that you can't keep track of what you said, while pathetically trying to turn some kind of imaginary tables on the people who are laughing at you for your stupidity.

[Neu Mejican]

If it is, it's yours since I was agreeing with you.

No. You are making a positive claim here. Prove two things. I was wrong, and I minimized it and ran...THREE things...that's THREE things.

[Episiarch]

No. You are making a positive claim here.

Um, no idiot, I'm quoting you.

How fucking stupid are you that you say something, I agree with you, then you disagree with me?

You're that fucking stupid?

[Episiarch]

I minimized it and ran

You've been doing nothing but minimize it, and as soon as you run through all the classic internet troll-fu you have, you will run.

Like you always do.

[Neu Mejican]

I'm quoting you.

Really bad at this.

You didn't quote me. Now you can't even keep up with what you are claiming. Remember, I was the one who wouldn't admit that I was wrong.

[Episiarch]

I may be wrong about the continued SS

You didn't quote me

Um, yes I did, that's from you right there.

How fucking stupid are you?

[Episiarch]

Neu Mejican|3.20.12 @ 6:12PM|#|show direct|ignore
Ohhhh...he noticed me.

[shiver]

Ya'll are way too invested in this shit.

Sloopy was trying to nit-pick a fight. His argument was tangential, but fuck it. I may be wrong about the continued SS

Episiarch|3.20.12 @ 6:53PM|#|show direct|ignore
Wait...I was WRONG? That sounds like an assertion
If it is, it's yours since I was agreeing with you.

I may be wrong about the continued SS
ANd with that, any claim of intelligence from you loses all credibility.

Get back to us when you're not so fucking stupid that you can't keep track of what you said, while pathetically trying to turn some kind of imaginary tables on the people who are laughing at you for your stupidity.

Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?

[Episiarch]

BWAHAHAHA This fucking idiot doesn't even know his own quotes!

[Neu Mejican]

"may"

[Episiarch]

You didn't quote me

Liar.

I may be wrong about the continued SS

Is that or is it not your quote? Did you or did you not lie and claim I was not quoting you?

If it is, it's yours since I was agreeing with you.

You said "may". I agreed with you.

Jesus how fucking stupid are you?

[Neu Mejican]

If you can't tell that I am just posting shit to see how long you will keep this up, well, I can't help you.

[Episiarch]

And I'm just having fun at your expense.

That you would make yourself a liar just to troll the internet is hilarious and sad for you.

[Neu Mejican]

Where did I lie?

[MNG]

You can't simply read a few posts above you?

[Neu Mejican]

MNG,

Please elaborate.

[MNG]

No.

You can't simply read a few posts above you?

[Neu Mejican]

Really.

I don't think I ever lied on this thread. What are you seeing as a lie?

[MNG]

You can't simply read a few posts above you?

[Tim]

you're still posting

[Episiarch]

where didn't you...

[sloopyinca]

where didn't you...

He did mention something about being a "standard internet asshole," so there is that.

[Episiarch]

I suppose he could be super-sized...

[Gleek]

This is like the worst cat fight, ever!

[Episiarch]

If you can't tell that I am just posting shit to see how long you will keep this up, well, I can't help you.

By the way that's another troll-fu standard.

You're the most unoriginal fuck I've ever seen, and I know Carlos Mencia.

[Neu Mejican]

You're the most unoriginal fuck I've ever seen, and I know Carlos Mencia.

Oh irony.

[Tim]

You're still posting

[MNG]

If you can't tell that I am just posting shit to see how long you will keep this up, well, I can't help you.

He's not the one who needs help.

[Tim]

"If you can't tell that I am just posting shit to see how long you will keep this up, well, I can't help you."

This is what happens when an asshole troll runs out of lame ways to duck being wrong.

Never do this class.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

I guess the reading problems are deep 'round here.

About as deep as your passive-aggressive problems.

[Mike M.]

She's just getting in early practice to become an entitled, stuck-up, spoiled cunt like her mother.

[John]

http://www.popularmechanics.co.....pp#slide-1

10 surprising facts about muscle cars.

[Gray Ghost]

Ordinarily, I'd have loved to have read your link, but I detest the new trend in webpages to have a shitty slideshow substitute for content. They take forever to load, invariably fuck up while doing so, and probably count as an additional link for their ad-counter.

Too bad, as it looked like an interesting topic.

[Ted S.]

You're not the only person who feels that way.

[Ska]

Lucy, while you do have a sexy twitter pic thanks to that part of your body - neck-in-neck is not a saying. Haven't you ever been to the track to watch the ponies?

[Lucy Steigerwald]

Why do I keep thinking that's a saying? Why?

[Beefy King]

For all intensive purposes, it is

[WTF]

That's 'all intensive porpoises'. You need to tow the lion.

[I'm not from Joisy]

"That's 'all intensive porpoises'."

Sorry, not for me, as I'm not afflicted with the disease know as "Being from New Jersey".

[sloopyinca]

Why do I keep thinking that's a saying? Why?

You're just towing the lion, Lucy.

[Ted S.]

I worked at my college's radio station, which ran commercials despite being a non-profit. One of the advertisers was Hilde's, a hair salon run by a German immigrant who did the voiceover work for her commercials herself. She advertised "free and convenient parking", but because of her accent it sounded to all of us as though she was offering "free inconvenient parking".

20 years on and I can still remember the jingle for the greasy pizza place....

[John]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/scie.....squandered

Earth only has a limited supply of helium, which is released as a by-product of the petrochemical industry. Essentially, pockets of the gas are disturbed during gas and oil drilling and rise to the surface. In the 1920s the US decided helium would be a strategic resource. It realised that air power would be crucial in future wars, and assumed that these would be fought by airships that would use helium to float. "The US created a vast stockpile of billions of litres of helium in the 1920s and kept it until the late 1990s, when it decided to sell it off,"

"Helium was cheap and we learned to be wasteful with it," said Kirichek. "Now the stockpile is used up, prices are rising and we are realising how stupid we have been."

[Pro Libertate]

Loads and loads of helium on the Moon. Not just the H3 you hear about for fusion, either.

[A chemist]

Not really, H3 is heavy enough to stay behind, everything else isn't.

[Pro Libertate]

Well, H3, then. Fusion and party balloons.

[Gray Ghost]

Not really, H3 is heavy enough to stay behind,

Um, how can this be, given that H3 has one fewer neutron than ordinary Helium, and should therefore be lighter? It boils at a lower temperature than regular Helium, and has 1/2 its density when liquid.

Is there something I'm missing?

[Brett L]

I think (hope) that the chemist was talking about H3 (tritium) and not He3.

[Gray Ghost]

Thought he was commenting on ProL's comment regarding Helium-3. At least I thought Pro was using H-3 as a shorthand for Helium.

As an aside, wouldn't He-3 and H-3 have nearly the same gas characteristics: 1 proton + 2 neutron should weigh pretty much the same as 2 protons + 1 neutron, even taking into account the additional electron of He-3? I imagine Helium-3 has a much smaller radius though. One's going to be a lot more reactive than the other, of course.

[Ted S.]

Wouldn't H3 be tritium?

I thought the main isotope of helium was helium-4, which would of course be heavier than helium-3.

[Pro Libertate]

Also, isn't helium a byproduct of the natural gas extraction process? Can we capture it cost effectively?

[John]

Yes it is. And no we can't.

[Pro Libertate]

The Moon it is! Maybe a space elevator/pipeline?

[John]

We really are running out of it and face the possibility of losing vital medical devices because of party balloons. We are too stupid to live.

[Abersouth]

There is a bread and circuses joke in here somewhere . . .

[John]

And barbarians finally burning the whole rotten edifice down.

[Michael S. Langston]

An honest question. Do you have any links asserting that helium used for entertainment purposes is a large enough percentage of total helium use to make it meaningful to our declining supplies?

From what I've read, though admittedly not much on this subject, our supplies are declining due to a massive increase in industrial uses such as MRI cooling.

[Obama]

No pipelines!

[Pro Libertate]

Sorry. Space elevator/straw.

[Brett L]

John, its pretty much the only way that we capture it, but we can't do so at the rate it is demanded. Also, how the fuck are balloon people outcompeting government agencies on the bidding war?

[John]

Because the government released the reserve and flooded the market depressing prices.

[Pro Libertate]

I read something about this on a technical site and read that the "party balloon" use is hugely overstated in that article as an overall percentage of helium use. Not that I know, one way or the other.

[John]

It is the Guardian. So it may not be true. But it is disturbing if it is.

[Brett L]

Considering how many you can make from a single cylinder, I'm not surprised. Yet Publix still gives away balloons and these morons can't find enough run their particle accelerator.

[Pro Libertate]

I bet Publix has its own particle accelerator. Which it uses to make helium.

[BakedPenguin]

See, this is why we need fusion.

[Pro Libertate]

Fusion and a moonbase! To protect our children from a future without balloons!

[Doktor Kapitalism]

"Fusion and a moonbase! To protect our children from a future without balloons!"

The Gingrich Campaign will be contacting you shortly.

[George Zimmerman]

Curses!

[George Zimmer]

"You're going to like the way you look ... IN PRISON!"

[John]

http://www.powerlineblog.com/a.....kboots.php

You have to love Greens

Lately I came across a several months old column from the Sydney Morning Herald that offers another example of the mendacity of the climate campaign that I can't decide is either clueless or just pathetic. Richard Glover wrote:

Surely it's time for climate-change deniers to have their opinions forcibly tattooed on their bodies. Not necessarily on the forehead; I'm a reasonable man. Just something along their arm or across their chest so their grandchildren could say, "Really? You were one of the ones who tried to stop the world doing something? And why exactly was that, granddad?"

[Auric Demonocles]

Gotta be satire.

[John]

It was real. He latter apologized for offending holocaust victims.

[Pro Libertate]

Doing the reverse would probably be more humiliating.

[SugarFree]

David Brin advocates tracking the public and internet statemtns made by every "denier" so that after his eagerly anticipated Eco-collapse they can be tried and punished.

[JW]

I think this falls under "Evil will always triumph because good is stupid."

[Pro Libertate]

I'm in if the reverse holds.

[JW]

He has the Urge to Purge.

[Anonymous Coward]

Glad to see David Brin constantly strives to justify my loathing of him.

[Michael S. Langston]

Almost makes me want to do everything in my power to make his 'denier' list.

[Auric Demonocles]

Alt-text referencing Suderman? The best kind of alt-text.

[Lucy Steigerwald]

I suspect he'll never notice, though he is currently sitting 5.5 feet away.

[Pro Libertate]

How do you know that with such precision? Do you have a radar or laser for measuring distances? I had no idea the foundation was that loaded.

[Mongo]

I literally found out today what was meant by 'alt-text'.

All this time, I'm going "What the fuck are they talkin' about??"

[Pro Libertate]

"Alt-text", of course, refers to comments posted in English, but with Greek letters.

[fried wylie]

clearly Mongo has never dealt with section508 compliance.

[Francisco d Anconia]

I had to ask too. Had no clue what the "in" kids were talking about.

[A Serious Man]

In game of life, Mongo only pawn.

[Francisco d Anconia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKRma7PDW10

[Fluffy]

Because he's 5' 10" and she's giving him a foot massage. That's my guess.

[Ska]

I wonder if Welch would throw someone out of a four story window for that.

[JW]

How do you know that with such precision?

It's part of the restraining order.

[Michael S. Langston]

It's a personal proximity alarm set for 'those' people

[db]

Dis Suder-man?!? BACKTURN

[db]

The cynic in me thinks the asshole who shot that kid will go to trial, claim the castle doctrine/stand your ground law as his defense, and the judge will constrain the jury jn such a way that the suspect is found not guilty. This, of course, will start a "national conversation" on castle doctrine, self defense, and guns as a whole.

But what really gets me is this asshole's ability to just shoot the kid on what is increasingly looking like a whim.

[Brett L]

Actually, a judge gets to rule before the jury (maybe even the grand jury) is empaneled on whether or not SYG protections exist. If so, he can't be tried for the death of the young man.

[That's wrong]

"Actually, a judge gets to rule before the jury (maybe even the grand jury) is empaneled on whether or not SYG protections exist. If so, he can't be tried for the death of the young man."

ACTUALLY, that is totally wrong.

Brett, I don't know where you got that legal advice, but I'd fire that attorney.

[Gray Ghost]

Pick a fucking handle already.

IANAL, but while I agree with you that Brett is probably wrong on this point of Florida criminal law---I'm not sure where a judge would intersect with a grand jury, for one---it would be helpful if you would point out how he's wrong.

[Brett L]

Looking for the link, but because the FL statute is designed to prevent fear of prosecution, a judge reviews whether or not the prosecution can bring a case (sort of a pretrial motion) before the case can be brought. Like the case cited in this piece.

"In a high-profile Tampa Bay case, Trevor Dooley is using "stand your ground" as his legal defense, claiming that he was entitled to shoot and kill David James, his Valrico neighbor, during an argument over skateboarding on a basketball court. Hillsborough Circuit Judge Ashley Moody will consider Dooley's motion to dismiss the charges against him on April 26."

So yeah. The judge has to rule on whether or not the charges can be legally brought.

[Brett L]

Statute is here

I believe 776.013, 776.032, and 776.041 are the relevant ones.

.013 defines justifiable use of force
.032 spells out the stand your ground provisions (immunity from arrest and prosecution unless probable cause arises)
.041 spells out how an aggressor may use such force (though I doubt Mr. Zimmerman qualifies).

[Incorrect]

So yeah. The judge has to rule on whether or not the charges can be legally brought.

Nope, you're still wrong.

[Incorrect]

Because I want to finally end this, the judge doesn't make the determination in any kind of pre-trial hearing.

Nothing you said there resembles reality in any way.

[db]

Care to explain the actual process, Oh Enlightened One?

[I would]

"Pick a fucking handle already."

But you're an asshole.

[Gray Ghost]

Get a hobby, Dan.

[Rocco the Socko]

It's not entirely impossible that the facts could turn out to show that Zimmerman actually was defending himself against a deadly overreaction by the kid.

[Abersouth]

Jeezus Krist. What evidence would you need to exonerate the kid?

[CoyoteBlue]

Gawker did an evenhanded article on it:
http://gawker.com/5894647/how-.....teaches-us

[Pro Libertate]

Holy shit. Gawker is about useless, isn't it?

[JW]

I see what you did there.

[Rocco the Socko]

Jeezus Krist. What evidence would you need to exonerate the kid?

If that's the way you feel about it, why bother having a trial?

[Michael S. Langston]

Kent Brockman:

According to our phone in poll, 95% of respondents think he's guilty.

Of course this isn't legally binding, unless proposition 304 passes and we all pray it will.

[Applederry]

Would a deadly overreaction justify the shooting? The available evidence so far suggests Zimmerman is the one that started the confrontation. Maybe more will come out showing the opposite, but you can't start a fight with someone and then claim self-defense when they fight back, even with deadly force.

[Rocco the Socko]

You can, actually. I start a fistfight with you. After a few hits on either side, I back off. You nevertheless pull a Bowie knife and lunge at me. I shoot you.

[Applederry]

That's still a highly questionable circumstance. What does backing off mean? Standing a few feet apart staring each other down? Turning around and walking away?

When does a fight end? A verbal agreement? If you suddenly attacked me, I know I wouldn't consider it over until I or you had left out of each others sight at least.

It may be possible depending on very favorable circumstances, but as a jury member I would be very wary of your side of the story considering you started the whole mess.

[Rocco the Socko]

It doesn't depend on when the fight ends. It depends on whether you reasonably believed that deadly force was necessary to prevent loss of life or grave bodily harm, at the time when you used deadly force.

As for convincing a jury, sometimes these things have witnesses.

[Gray Ghost]

In this situation, however, the kid didn't have a weapon (not even a shopping bag with a 40), and the shooter outweighed him by ~100 pounds. I'm having a hard time seeing Zimmerman's risk of potential loss of life or grave bodily harm from the kid; enough of a hard time to where I want to have a jury evaluate his claim of self-defense.

[WS]

I thought about that too, cop wannabe assholes are going to ruin castle doctrine protections for the rest of us. The fact that this jerk initiated the confrontation because he didn't like the looks of this guy should nullify his castle doctrine defense. What I find interesting is in a lot of places, like my neighborhood, its just as likely that someone that looks like George Zimmerman would get shot by an asshole that thinks like George Zimmerman.

[Applederry]

Just FYI, the Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground are two different concepts. Castle Doctrine only applies to your place of residence, while Stand Your Ground can apply to your workplace, public streets, or any place you have a legal right to be (specifics may vary by state). The Stand Your Ground law is the only thing applicable in this case since it was out in public.

[sloopyinca]

Just FYI, the Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground are two different concepts.

We're talking about the media here. They can barely spell doctrine, let alone know the difference in two of them.

[Eduard van Haalen]

And they probably don't like the Castle Doctrine either.

[sloopyinca]

Bingo!

[WS]

In Pennsylvania, we just got the SYG provision as part of the same bill for a "no retreat" revision of the Castle Doctrine law. So, here in PA at least, there's not much difference and the concepts are discussed interchangeably. But I am aware of the difference.

[Barack Obama]

Gingrich said the president should hold De Niro accountable for the comments.

Let me be clear.

I take full responsibility for that despicable comment by Mr. De Niro.

[Michael S. Langston]

Gingrich's idiotic pronouncements are a good example of the final wailing shrieks of the wussified loser.

[John]

http://heartiste.wordpress.com.....d-shaming/

A fabulous rant against Charles Murray. The funniest part

Shame women who get fat and thus make themselves unattractive to men and artificially tighten the dating market. "Those jeans are a little small on you." BACKTURN

Shame women who date jerks. "Oh, so the guy you're seeing has no job and gave you Skittles for your birthday?" BACKTURN

Shame sluts. "Nice tramp stamp. Just the thing to make a guy want to marry you." BACKTURN

Shame eat, pray, love SWPL divorcees. "Was it worth destroying your kids' emotional health for a romp with Alfonso?" BACKTURN

Shame Samantha types whose weekly highlight is Sunday brunch mimosas. "In real life, Samantha dies alone with her cats nibbling on her flesh for sustenance." BACKTURN

[Dense Male]

What does that even mean?

[sounds real good]

Turn your backs on these women to express social disapproval of their choices.

[Fluffy]

Murray's "let's shame people" column really was pretty stupid.

We should shame people who write stupid columns.

[John]

It was very stupid. But I think that is a legitimate response. Why is it only okay to shame men?

[Fluffy]

That was the smartest part of a dumb column, because women are beyond shame.

At least with men there's a 1 in 10 trillion chance that Murray's plan would work.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

This was especially LOL:

Never mind the feminists, the whole consumerist regime depends on women working and spending their discretionary cash on useless baubles.

Anyone recall how the left waxes nostalgic over the 1950s and 60s, when tax rates were high, government spending supposedly abounded, and we had "the world's strongest middle-class economy"? Ever notice how they tactily ignore the fact that most households during that period were single-earner homes, and women's economic spending power was basically relevant only to her mate's income?

The author is basically arguing that the shopping mall economic model, which is worthless without ever-increasing amounts of credit and happened to become a primary economic driver in the 1970s at the same time women began ramping up their workforce participation numbers, would be unsustainable if women weren't spending like fiends.

[Cy Nickelfuque]

The Supreme Court appeared ready Tuesday to say anew that young people who commit even the most brutal crimes should not be punished as harshly as adults

"We're going to release you now. No more murders or rapes, OK?"

[Francisco d Anconia]

Why is there even a provision to try as a juvenile? Is it ever done anymore? Seems everybody gets tried as an adult regardless.

Anyone know where the provision to try kids as adults comes from?

[Fluffy]

Many white, affluent kids still get tried as juveniles.

[dunphy]

ah yes. the race card. and completely unsupported by evidence.

at least in my court system, the vast majority of offenders get tried as juveniles, regardless of race.

it "seems" for those uninterested in evidence, that they are often tried as adults, because many of the sexy cases played up in the media are of the type that are egregious enough (1st degree murder etc.) where it's much more likely they will be tried as adults

factors considered as to whether to charge adult: age of juvenile (17 obviously more likely than 15), prior record (extremely important), severity of the offense alleged, etc.

[reasonoids]

at least in my court system

Ah your stupid fucking anecdotes, and completely unsupported by evidence.

[Fluffy]

Blow me, Dunphy.

Which 17 year old is more likely to be tried as an adult for an assault?

A 17 year old white kid with a letter from his Congressman to get him admitted to West Point in the fall, or a 17 year old black kid who has dropped out of high school and is working at KFC?

I'll wait.

[Michael S. Langston]

Turn the race around and the result is the same....

IE - black kid with letter and West Point juvenile, white drop out, adult.

I think I agree with your point, though would rather see starts versus your's or Dunphy's experience, but your question is faulty as the gap between your two scenarios is so large as to likely negate racial differences in reality.

[Francisco d Anconia]

So IOW, there is no set guidance, they make it up on a case by case basis depending on how pissed off they are at the time.

[shrike]

DeNiro is an Obama supporter?

I remember my first experience with a GOP/redneck. My roommate in college refused to watch 'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid' because Newman and Redford were "commies".

I hope that redneck POS is dead now.

[John]

If having you as a roommate didn't drive him to suicide, nothing would.

[shrike]

What is your last name and where did you go to school?

Do you think Paul Newman and Robert Redford are "commies"?

[John]

I went to college not a state institution for the mentally defective.

[Abersouth]

Sometimes I just love Hit and Run.

[Amerifuntimes]

I was just thinking that.

[shrike]

also, christfag

[Red Rocks Rockin]

Paul Newman's not a commie anymore because he's dead.

[Buddy Bizarre]

Better dead if red?

[Beefy King]

"I remember my first experience with a GOP/redneck."

Was he gentle?

[shrike]

I was grown fully by then.

No GOP/Vatican/Christfaggot will breach my holy asshole now.

Senator Jim DeMint may support boy-buttfucking but I hate the thought.

[Beefy King]

"No GOP/Vatican/Christfaggot will breach my holy asshole now."

Had your fill huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

No GOP/Vatican/Christfaggot will breach my holy asshole now.

Not without spelunking equipment, I'm sure.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Redford IS a commie.

[shrike]

Oh sure he is. He cares about the environment.

Are you a Bircher idiot?

[Fluffy]

Redford's association with pink politics goes a bit beyond his environmentalism, dude.

He was a Bobby Kennedy style Democrat, which by today's standards puts him to the left of Sanders.

[shrike]

Link it then. (To support his claims of confiscating private property).

I suspect he is just a high-tax progressive.

I might be wrong though.

[WTF?]

Aren't you the asshole who got the debt/deficit distinction wrong, then used a quote from P Brooks when he was correcting you for something else as evidence that you weren't wrong?

Yes, yes you are.

[Francisco d Anconia]

$

[Kant feel Pietzsche]

and 42 cents...

[P Brooks]

7.6 earthquake hits Mexico, thankfully there are no reported injuries.

Nobody important American, anyway.

[Malia]

Thank God!

[sounds real good]

NO MORE POLITICIAN APOLOGIES, PLEASE.

[P Brooks]

It's not entirely impossible that the facts could turn out to show that Zimmerman actually was defending himself against a deadly overreaction by the kid.

Which one of them was armed and prowling the neighborhood hunting for trouble? And, even if it was an "overreaction" that still means the whole sorry affair was initiated by Zimmerman.

[Impersonating sarcasmic]

YOU'RE A FUCKING RACIST WARGARBLE...!

[P Brooks]

How do you know that with such precision?

She shoots a Pez at him and times its flight.

[Pro Libertate]

That's plausible.

[fried wylie]

I dunno, I'm not sure if PEZ are manufactured to tight enough tolerances for precision measurement purposes.

[Pro Libertate]

You could insert some sort of transmitter into the Pez and use that to calculate the distance. Or maybe a GPS receiver?

[John]

http://online.wsj.com/article/.....TopOpinion

How Romney's condesension may be the way to beat Obama. Obama voters will never admit they made a mistake voting for the black Jesus or admit he is stupid or evil. But telling them that Obama is a nice guy who got in over his head and was just too idealistic, will soothe their guilty white consciences.

[shrike]

Sure. All the people with 401K's up 90% with Obama will vote for "black Jesus" instead.

You are a fucking disgrace to homo sapiens.

[Old Mexican]

Re: shrike,

All the people with 401K's up 90% with Obama[...]

Just like Sisyphus - oh so glad they can see the top, just a few more meters....

... darn!

[WTF?]

Aren't you the asshole who got the debt/deficit distinction wrong, then used a quote from P Brooks when he was correcting you for something else as evidence that you weren't wrong?

Yes, yes you are.

[shrike]

No, you stupid fuck. You heard that fucking Dungeons and Dragons gamer Episiarch claim that.

I can do book/tax depreciation variances in my head. I know more about finance than all Buch rednecks combined.

[Episiarch]

No

Yes, actually, Yes you are.

[WTF?]

I can do book/tax depreciation variances in my head. I know more about finance than all Buch rednecks combined.

Forgive me if I laugh in your obviously stupid face over that claim.

[Anonymous Coward]

No, you stupid fuck. You heard that fucking Dungeons and Dragons gamer Episiarch claim that.

Figures you play shitty tabletops like Vampire. You probably still put on eyeshadow and listen to Ministry, too.

[Michael S. Langston]

If you want Obama to win, then you really don't want serious people to look at his economic record. His anti-business policies will only hurt him.

[Brett L]

Fusion and laser beams. Breakeven fusion expected by the end of 2012 at NIF.

[Pro Libertate]

Progress is progress. Commercially viable fusion is a huge game changer.

[Within 20 for the last 50]

I'll believe it when it's not a chump stumping for money.

[The Bearded Hobbit]

I worked on a laser fusion program back in the 1980's. It was only 20 years away!

... Hobbit

[Brett L]

Still only 20 years away!

[HeroicMulatto]

George Zimmerman's eyes are spaced way to o close together.

Jus' sayin'

[RBS]

That's one of those mugshots that keeps getting creepier the longer you look at it.

[WTF?]

"HeroicMulatto|3.20.12 @ 5:20PM|#"

Weren't you the guy crying earlier because someone called you a name?

[HeroicMulatto]

Weren't you the guy crying earlier because someone called you a name?

Umm...no?

[Old Mexican]

7.6 earthquake hits Mexico, thankfully there are no reported injuries.

Only unreported ones.

[Gray Ghost]

Yeah. Mountainous region, lots of cinderblock construction, not in the middle of some desert (IIRC): I'd be very surprised if no one was injured by this quake. IMHO, it's more likely the injured haven't made it to a media outlet yet.

[Old Mexican]

In the "But I Still Love Him To Bits!" Department... Clueless Reporter Still Cannot Bring Himself To The Fact That His Great Lord And Savior Is A Fucking Liar

It's always troubling when a president tells voters blatant untruths about foreign policy. In an election year, the combination of untruths and state secrets is particularly pernicious. And it is making it significantly harder to judge whether Obama is an effective, moral steward of our interests.

You think?

[sticks]

heh. I was annoyed once by that link to a month old blog post. Thanks for making it twice.

[MJ]

I would think Obama lying would make it easier to judge him, not harder.

Oh, I see, iy makes it harder to judge Obama favorably.

[Old Mexican]

Ron Paul is still getting dollars, 3.3 million of them in February, in fact. Rmoney lived up to his name and raised about nine million.

Somebody out there loves him!

Goldman Sachs $521,180
JPMorgan Chase & Co $356,400
Morgan Stanley $297,550
Credit Suisse Group $296,160
Citigroup Inc $280,050
Bank of America $245,900
Kirkland & Ellis $225,202
Barclays $217,150
HIG Capital $188,500
PricewaterhouseCoopers $185,550

[Coeus]

This looks like it was written by a 5th grader (and not a precocious one, either).

http://jezebel.com/5894744/tur.....ly-mistake

[Old Mexican]

Re: Coeus,
From the link:

But there are lots of little ways we're charged more than men. Marie Claire has a detailed run-down of how this plays out, and they point specifically to dry cleaners, who often charge women three times as much to clean shirts which are virtually identical to mens' dress shirts.

And surely nobody will question the fact that Marie Claire magazine is the repository of accurate and relevant economic and statistical information.

[flye]

If only there were a way for women to open dry cleaners specifically catering to women, charging less than those evil male-owned competitors.

Maybe call it, "One Hour Martina-izing." Or... wait, come back to me, I can do better.

[Xenocles]

BS. I got a kilt drycleaned once and they charged me for a skirt.

[#]

I asked a dry cleaner about this. The reason for the price disparity is because mens shirts generally all have the same material and, shape and design. So there is a single treatment process for washing mens shirts.

Women's shirts come in all different shapes, sizes, designs and so forth, so there are multiple types of machines and many mroe types of chemicals needs to clean womens shirts broadly. So even if a particular woman's shirt is vert similar to men's they price women's shirts generally to be more expensive to cover this additional cost.

If this was some sexism driven thing, some (woman?) owned dry cleaner would undercut everyone and charge less.

These people don't understand economics at all.

[sloopyinca]

many mroe types of chemicals needs to clean womens shirts broadly.

You know why? It's because of tit dirt.

[Eduard van Haalen]

That's because a kilt *is* a skirt, ya Scottish git!

[Xenocles]

Yeah, but it's a man's skirt, so they ought to have charged me less. I even showed them my Patriarchy card.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

This looks like it was written by a 5th grader (and not a precocious one, either).

Given the average intellectual and emotional capacity of a Jezbian, that's about right.

[Sidd Finch]

Cal State is blackmailing California.

The move is a high-stakes gambit that could deny tens of thousands of students access to the state's largest public university system; it also pressures voters to support the tax increase. That proposal, backed by Gov. Jerry Brown, is intended to avoid so-called trigger cuts that will dramatically affect the state's public colleges and universities.

[P Brooks]

"Evil will always triumph because good is stupid."

I prefer "Evil will always triumph because Good is too busy minding its own business.'

[sloopyinca]

He could have at least got the quote right.

[JW]

Meh. Mine's better.

[John]

It has been three days without retarded Indian. And reason deleted every single one of its posts from a thread this weekend. Could it be they successfully banned it?

[Mike M.]

Either that, or his diabetes finally killed him.

[Ice Nine]

Obama is going to check out the DMZ for the first time, maybe he'll finally end that Korean war awkwardness.

An earned Nobel Peace Prize would look nice on his resume.

[P Brooks]

I'm video impaired, Sloopy. Is that from Time Bandits?

[sloopyinca]

Spaceballs

I hope that was a joke. And if it was, bravo! because you got my heart rate up.

[The Rev. Al]

This is like the whitest chat room ever.

[shrike]

so you're saying you feel safer than in your own neighborhood?

[sloopyinca]

No, he's saying that Tawana Bradley wouldn't be safe there.

[Google, friend]

Tawana Brawley

[sloopyinca]

Oops. I'll make sure to proofread it the next time.

[sloopyinca]

Neu Mejican|3.20.12 @ 6:20PM|#|show direct|ignore
I've been laughing this whole time.

It's sad that a person could be regarded as such a Team Blue (or Team Red) hack that even when he's trolling, people think he is making an argument consistent with his beliefs. Really. Fucking. Sad.

[Episiarch]

The funny thing is he said that in response to being laughed at.

"I know you are but what am I" was the best he had there.

[Neu Mejican]

Methink Episiarch never really got Andy Kaufman's later works.

[sloopyinca]

I wish they were also your last words. And I wish I could read them right. fucking. now.

[Neu Mejican]

Maybe I have just been an dunphy revenge sock puppet this whole time.

[sloopyinca]

Then I'd really wish they were your last words.

Oh, and too much capitalization.

[Coeus]

Jesus christ, what a cunt:

At the same time, the number of individuals killed by intimate partners has decreased, by 34 percent for women and by 57 percent for men. (The more dramatic figure for men may be due to a smaller overall figure being more sensitive to percentage shifts; Else also suggested in an interview that women now have more recourse before reaching a desperate situation.)

Sue Else, president of the U.S. National Network to End Domestic Violence.

http://www.salon.com/2012/03/2.....nst_women/

So when a woman kills a man, "you made me do it" is apparently a valid excuse.

Thank god someone is finally fighting back against VAWA.

[cynical]

Nah, she was just pointing out in a roundabout fashion that men don't have more recourse before reaching a desperate situation.

[Coeus]

This guy managed to find a way to represent spending that makes Obama the most fiscally conservative president in modern history. God only knows the contortions made to come up with a 5 trillion increase in debt in 4 years as the most fiscally conservative.

http://www.theatlantic.com/bus.....ry/254658/

[wareagle]

ah...so conservative is the new liberal.

[Michael S. Langston]

Note the source of the story is Rueters.... Yet another reason in a long line of reasons to not read them at all anymore.

And the trick is per capita spending, where emergency spending isn't counted and since Obama Care hasn't kicked in, that growth doesn't yet exist.

But the growing collective theme being pushed vigorously by Obama supporters is how great his economic credentials are, all evidence to the contrary.

It would be interesting to track this semi-recent, but concerted effort to build up one of Obama's biggest weaknesses with rolling polls of favorability ratings for Obama's economic policy.

See how much they can move opinion, if any, simply be constantly repeating the lie.

[Coeus]

See how much they can move opinion, if any, simply be constantly repeating the lie.

I'd say that Iraq has proven that they can push it quite a lot that way.

[Warty]

Did you idiots actually think that was Episiarch? For fuck's sake, people.

[Neu Mejican]

Clearly not warty.

[16th amendment]

If juveniles commit murders, they should get a timeout and go free!