Education

Kids Still Being Beaten in Public Schools, Just FYI

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this is a real photo of a real high school principal in 2012. Jesus.

Fun fact: Florida is one of 19 states where hitting kids who are participating mandatory public schooling with a paddle is completely legal in some districts. While some schools seek parental permission, those signatures—or lack thereof—may not hold much weight when a principal gets peeved:

Last year, the principal at Joyce Bullock Elementary sent home a waiver asking parents for permission to paddle students. [Parent Tenika] Jones says she didn't sign it, but her son, Geirrea Bostick, was paddled anyway.

He was 5 at the time and it was his second week of preschool. Gierrea says the principal spanked him twice for slapping another boy on the school bus. He says the principal first told him to take his jacket off. "Then [she] spank me on my booty," Gierrea says. "I cried all the way home. It was really hard."

Gierrea's mom says the paddling left welts on Gierrea's bottom, and she was outraged.

"If I would have hit my son how she hit him, I would have been in jail, I would have been on the news, I would have been messed up trying to get my children back," Jones says. "She whipped him up and to me that's child abuse."

Jones is in the process of suing the Levy County School District for paddling her son without her permission. But Robert Rush, an attorney at the law firm representing Jones says state law does not require schools to get parental consent.

For wiser (and perhaps slightly hasty) words on the subject, let's turn to neuroscientist Steven Pinker, who has authored a book on the dramatic decline of violence over the course of human history. We tend to think of wars and other violent conflict between adults, but violence against children goes into the tallies, too. Ironically, Pinker notes that an increase in education corresponds to a decline in violence:

The other thing that happened in the second half of the 20th century is that more people went to school for longer periods of time. There was a huge increase even in traditional media, like book publishing. More recently, we have the Internet, and social media, and all of those developments. But we just live in a more intellectualized world, and certain customs that were just defended—either by sheer tradition or by appealing to religious sources like the Bible, or they just felt selfishly to be ways of getting what we want, such as getting rid of annoying behavior by children, or rape in the case of sexuality—the more you think about what it's like to be a victim of those forms of exploitation, the more you try to apply some kind of rationally designed rules that apply to everyone, the more you're going to get rid of those forms of traditional oppression and violence.

Enjoy the full Pinker-Bailey exchange at Reason.tv:

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  1. And if he was another student he’d have been suspended!

    1. Kids Still Being Beaten

      Fun fact: Florida is one of 19 states where hitting kids who are participating mandatory public schooling with a paddle is completely legal

      Oh, you’re one of THOSE.

      Is there any way to block specific writer’s stories?

      I just don’t have time for dishonest assholes who think those two things are the same.

      1. And to be clear, paddling kids is awful.

        That’s no excuse.

      2. Pretty much all research on corporal punisment, even the mild variety that many don’t see as child abuse, indicates that it corresponds to increased rates of anxiety disorders and self esteem issues. Nothing good comes of violently attacking children. Ever.
        http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/pmidloo…..d=10530296

        1. …indicates that it corresponds to increased rates of anxiety disorders and self esteem issues.

          We don’t want johnny to feel about terrorizing his classmate now do we.

          The solution to bad behavior is more gold stars and awards.

  2. “This is going to hurt you a lot more than it’s going to hurt me.”

    1. Only because paddling with an erection is known to be painful.

      1. “paddling with an erection”.

        I don’t think we’d call that “getting paddled”

        1. Purple mushrooming?

  3. That principal is going to get beat up pretty severely when he tries to paddle the wrong kid. It can’t happen soon enough.

    1. I was thinking just paddle him, and let the courts try to explain why doing it to a kid is legal but doing it to the principal isn’t.

    2. When my daughters were young, the school district we were in had a policy of corporal punishment administered by the teacher or principal. I made it very clear to them that they were not to touch my children, and the very severe conseqences that would result if they did.

      1. I made it very clear to them that they were not to touch my children

        That’s why we Tase them, Bro.

      2. very severe conseqences that would result if they did.

        They would fail to grow up to be OWS’ers?

    3. Funny, I can remember the high school principal paddling foot ball players, big farm boys, without a problem at all.

      1. Back in the day, those punks knew they deserved it.

    4. Or if he picks on a kid with a parent who doesn’t tolerate physical abuse of children by bureaucrats.

      If anyone hit a kid of mine with a paddle, they’d better put a good coat of axle grease on the paddle before I got there. That would make it hurt a lot less when I shoved it up their ass.

      -jcr

  4. Yet another reason to hate Florida.

  5. There is probably a reason why I haven’t had kids. It is God’s way of keeping me out of prison. If that was my kid, I would come down and beat that fat fuck within an inch of his life. There is just no excuse for it.

    1. I had a lovely daydream just now about beating his fat face in. You too?

      1. Mine involved sticking his head in a toilet while he gasps for breath and swore he would never touch another kid again.

        1. THey only paddle the children of ignorant poor people who are conditioned to accept Government abuse.

          1. Single moms who are less likely to engage in physical violence.

          2. THey only paddle the children of ignorant poor people who are conditioned to accept Government abuse.

            This.

        2. Mine involved sticking his head in a toilet while he gasps for breath and swore he would never touch another kid again.

          When I was a kid, we called that “giving a swirley”

          1. Yes. It seemed appropriate given the school environment.

            1. Atomic wedgie FTW. That fat bastard’s waist is big enough that you could probably get it back over to his gut.

            2. Unfortunately, the principal in the picture looks like he hasn’t been on the stairmaster lately. Gonna take some heaving to hold him upside down in the toilet for that. So it’ll have to be old-fashioned water-boarding type stuff.

              1. Just grab him by his collar.

              2. Unfortunately, the principal in the picture looks like he hasn’t been on the stairmaster lately. Gonna take some heaving to hold him upside down in the toilet for that.

                Pulleys.

                Turns out school WAS good for something.

    2. Yep. I will spank my kids on occasion, when nothing else is getting through, but god help the motherfucker that thinks he has the right to do it himself. Shove that paddle up his ass, and not the way he’d prefer it to be, either.

      1. Shove that paddle up his ass, and not the way he’d prefer it to be, either.

        You mean that bitch is going in wide end first?

        1. Actually, I was thinking sideways. That thing’s, what, about 18 inches? Call Sasha Grey and get some pointers.

    3. I’m with you. If H&R is nothing else, it is a daily litany of reasons not to bring a child into this world.

      1. If H&R is nothing else, it is a daily litany of reasons not to bring a child into this world.

        The comments or the posts?

        1. The commentors.

    4. There is probably a reason why I haven’t had kids. It is God’s way of keeping me out of prison. If that was my kid, I would come down and beat that fat fuck within an inch of his life. There is just no excuse for it.

      Even after several years here, I can still not anticipate the level of government hatred.

      I thought, at first, you were making this reference about the child who slapped the other child. You know, the whole NAP and being personally responsible for your children?

      I had NO IDEA that a school principle giving a paddling was such a violation. Hell, I got paddled in every single grade until high school. The lasting effects, if any, are debatable.

      And yeah, if you think the response to your child being punished for slapping another child is attack the principle, it probably is a good thing you don’t have children.

      1. You are under a misunderstanding that the outrage at the principal is in any way related to a hating the government.

        Read carefully and notice that they would react the same if a complete stranger did this add well.

        & if you think protecting your children against violence from others is reason not to have children, I would hate to see what your theoretical list of parental dos and donts looks like.

        For me, protecting my child from unnecessary violence from adults, whether in authority or not, is on the list of dos….

        1. Apparently,

          So is raising an undisciplined brat.

          Enjoy your retirement taking care of over grown child living in your basement.

  6. Yet another reason to avoid public schools.

    Not that the Catholic schools I went to as a child were any better. But at least my parents knew the drill going in: step out of line, get smacked.

    1. Yeah, pretty sure private schools have more leeway. Especially in the 31 states where it is illegal in public schools, according to the article.

  7. To the principal’s credit, I’m sure it was hot on the bus and he didn’t want the tyke to suffer from heat exhaustion. The last resort was undoubtedly beating the lesson into him.

  8. I haven’t given it a great deal of thought, but it strikes me that corporal punishment has its place.

    Not, of course, on 5 year old children hard enough to leave welts.

    But, it was completely unexceptional when I was in school. Rarely administered, of course, and I don’t recall anyone who got paddled coming back to class in tears, so I doubt it was very hard.

    Naturally, though, if you have populated your schools with tenured pubsec teachers and braindead monopolistic administrators, you are unlikely to have people with decent judgment to administer corporal punishment where justified, so there’s that.

    1. It’s the who I’m supposed to trust to use violence on my kid that’s the big problem. I hear bad enough things about what these “professionals” say to my kids.

    2. Corporal punishment does have its place, but I don’t think school is it, and while I don’t have a problem with a couple of smacks on the butt with an open hand, I don’t think using any kind of implement is acceptable either. People that beat kids with belts and paddles and whatever are sadists IMO.

      1. I disagree, by the time I was 8 my mom had to use the belt or her hands suffered worse than I did.

    3. It has its place and that place is home.

      Empowering agents of the state to beat children is madness. I wasn’t a good kid. They beat you harder every time you were sent back for more. All it ever taught me was to hate those idiot fuckers and the parents who let it go on.

      1. But when Miss Jones, the blonde art teacher paddled you, you kinda liked it.

        1. No, I just thought about digging out her cunt with a protractor.

          1. This requires a protracted response, but I’ll just drop it.

      2. I never got beaten in school, but I did have a huge Latin teacher that doubled as a weightlifting coach. He caught me writing on the back of a desk once in White-Out and for the rest of the day used me as a chalkboard eraser. Just picked me up and rubbed my back on the board. Asshole…..but then, I was a mouthy little shit in eighth grade.

        1. That is pretty funny. And you were in 8th grade. You most certainly deserved it. This kid was five.

          1. Oh, absolutely I deserved it. He actually was pretty fair compared to a lot of my other teachers, who I’d kick in the balls to this day should I encounter them on the street.

        2. Every time there’s a school shooting, the public expresses shock. I express shock that it doesn’t happen more often.

          1. I look back sometimes and it is a miracle I didn’t shoot several people before I was 14. I went to school with some little bastards who really needed killing.

            1. I mostly thought up ways to bore teachers to death, being that turnabout is fair play.

            2. I used to get “Tim isn’t paying attention in class”.
              Of course I wasn’t, you boring, talentless union hack.

              1. In 1974 I wanted to read Mad Magazine, not Clifford the Big Red Dog, Encyclopedia Brown or whatever souless trash the system ha approved for my young mind.

                1. It is worse today Tim. They made one of my nephews read The Joy Luck Club in high school. Can you imagine having to read that shit?

                  1. It would be like having that beetle thing from Star Trek put in your ear.

                    1. In college, my wife had to read Beloved in at least 6 classes. She only read it the once, of course, but still a nightmarish scenario.

                    2. Beloved actually isn’t even the worst Toni Morrison novel you could have ended up reading. We got stuck with Song of Solomon in high school.What a turgid piece of shit, although nothing will ever top McTeague as the worst novel ever assigned.

                    3. Ugh. Song of Solomon. My senior English teacher dropped our lowest essay grade (AP class so the grades were all AP style essays), so I quit reading about the 3rd chapter, and wrote for the whole essay period about how much I hated the part I read.

                    4. although nothing will ever top McTeague as the worst novel ever assigned.

                      Two words for you:

                      Ethan Frome

                    5. I read that, but I can’t remember anything about it. Some pioneer thing, right?

                    6. There’s like a page with a sled crash. It’s the only thing interesting in the whole fucking book.

                    7. I feel sorry for your wife Beloved is horrible. I often wonder if it ever dawns on English teachers that they are making a whole new generation of racist by torturing their students with awful novels by black authors. I mean black people do write good books.

                    8. Especially since one of the six was Thermodynamics.

                  2. Ugh. We had to watch the movie for a class in college. I wanted to slit my wrists.

                    1. “I want to get on Oprah’s book club. I want that sticker from the book club. I want to get on that show, and I want to ask her about that scene in Beloved where she squats and pees. How many takes did she do? Was she method?”

                  3. At least your nephew will be fabulous.

                2. I remember a geography class with a dullard instructor in eighth grade. I liked to read science fiction and fantasy novels under the desk while she taught. The bitch took away The Power that Preserves when she caught me one time. Other than books and fantasies about fucking the pretty girls that were in the same class, I had nothing else to keep my brain from melting.

            3. I went to school with some little bastards who really needed killing.

              But god forbid anyone discipline them.

        3. I was a pretty mouthy kid too. Once, in eighth grade, I had a teacher come and pull my ear hard as fuck and told me to shutup. I told him that if he pulled my ear like that ever again, I’d punch him in the face. He immediately said, “like this” while pulling my ear, thinking that he’d call my bluff, but I knocked the shit out of that motherfucker.

          Two periods later I was pulled out of class and suspended for assaulting a teacher. I told the administrator what had happened and, as I’d expect with hindsight, I was summarily dismissed as a liar to which I got the “why are you trying to ruin a teacher’s career?” speech.

          As I think more and more about it, it was absolutely my exposure to public schooling that led me to libertarianism.

          1. Hmm. Did this teacher say in a Southern drawl, “Boy, you wanna get dynamited?”

            1. No southern drawl. This was in Miami in the late 80s where only the oldest of natives had a hint of southern in them.

              He was one of those douchebag Vietnam vets who still mostly grunt in monosyllables.

          2. As I think more and more about it, it was absolutely my exposure to public schooling that led me to libertarianism.

            Me too. But the stories I have don’t fall under the 900 word limit.

          3. The most trouble I ever got in was a two day suspicion. One teacher originally from Chicago decided to say something smart mouthed about my very slight Southern accent (this is in North Carolina, mind you), and I asked him, ‘you lisp like a queer and you have the nerve to say anything about MY accent?” It was absolutely true. Gay as a three dollar bill, and possessed the most annoying lisp you can imagine.

            1. suspicion, lulz. Think they were always suspicious of me.

          4. I was summarily dismissed as a liar

            DIdn’t any other kids see it? Or were they too cowardly to speak up and tell the truth?

            -jcr

        4. I don’t get it. White-out comes off really easy. Now, gouging shit on the desk…no, still not something you beat someone over. You make them pay for the damages, a realistic lesson in violating property rights.

          1. Yeah, but I wasn’t beaten, just embarrassed in front of the class. Plus, I had to stay after school to scrape that crap off the desk.

    4. It does have its place. But ultimately a parent is really the only person with the kind of authority to administer it. Sorry, tenured brain dead unionized “professionals” don’t cut it. We would probably be better off letting the other five year old kids determine the punishment than that.

      1. Tenured, brain dead and unionized has nothing to do with it. No one, at least without explicit permission from parents (and probably not even then), should be administering corporal punishment on someone else’s kids.

        1. For the truly incorrigible kids, make them read Ethan Frome.

          No, that was just a joke, I’m not really that much of a sadist.

  9. Shit. That guy looks exactly like my middle school principal. complete with the paddle. must be standard issue, both administror and paddle.

    1. Say, isn’t that Flounder from Delta House?

    2. He does mine too. They must hire for a certain pasty white fat fuck look.

  10. “If I would have hit my son how she hit him, I would have been in jail, I would have been on the news, I would have been messed up trying to get my children back,” Jones says.

    Membership has its privileges. Maybe you should join a union, bitch.

    1. Bad spoof. But funny spoof.

      1. Why do you think it’s a bad spoof, John? Must you always debate what I say?

        1. This mistake was using vulgarity. MNG would never sink to that depraved level.

          1. It wasn’t whiny enough.

      1. A knocking or tapping movement is performed near the anus as if “asking” to gain entry. Reports indicate that pearlfish normally back in tail first but have also been observed to enter head first. More than one pearlfish has been known to live inside a cucumber at any one time as well making for a somewhat cramped living environment. This trait has been observed with the Silver pearlfish where sexual pairing has been found within a cucumber.

        Hehe.

  11. Does this school have a DARE program?

    1. DARE is a federal requirement.

      That is a primary reason I send my children to private school. Though they still administer the DARE program, I can opt my children out of it. You cannot in public school. WIthout DARE, you cannot pass the grade.

      1. DARE is a federal requirement.

        Follow the money.

  12. I went to elementary school here in Florida. I remember our principal hung his paddle on the wall behind his desk, presumably to serve as a warning or whatever. I never got paddled, but I knew other kids that did. This was in the late ’70s/early ’80s. Of course, my 4th-grade teacher also held prayer in class each morning after the bell rang, so I guess the paddle really wasn’t that out of place in an environment like that.

  13. Once again, I’m so very glad to have gotten the hell out of Florida.

    1. “Florida is one of 19 states…”

      Check your local listings.

      1. Hah, I actually read the link now – Bonifay! hahahaha, gee, how did I know this was in the fucking Panhandle?

        For those of you keeping score at home, Bonifay is maybe an hour away from Crestview, the town with the ridiculously dirty cop that appeared in H&R last week.

        Oh, and Virginia isn’t one of the illustrious 19, so my kids are safe. As safe as they can be at the hands of the education establishment, anyway. *sigh*

  14. Next time the kid should take advantage of the state’s “stand your ground” law. hit back and claim self defense.

  15. the 19 where it’s legal: both Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Arizona, Idaho.

    1. Went to kindergarten in Chapel Hill, NC. Paddled. Went to first and second grades in Killeen, TX. Paddled ruthlessly in first grade. Second grade teacher adored me. Completed my grade school in New Castle, IN. Paddled ruthlessly in third and fourth grade. Didn’t give a fuck. Laughed at the principal when he was paddling me. They stopped paddling me.

      At my brothers wedding last summer, I was having a conversation with my Dad and his friend about homeschooling. His friend homeschooled her children. They are great kids. My Dad actually welled with tears and apologized to me for sending me to public schools, and said he regrets the decision.

      I finished my bourbon, and stepped outside for a smoke. And a little cry.

      1. Jesus fucking Christ.

        Everyone in this country is turning into a fucking pussy.

  16. So why do people live in Florida again?

    I always love to visit, nice beaches, fishing, seafood, bikinis yadda yadda. But why do people live there?

    It just seems like a giant insane asylum.

    1. It IS a giant insane asylum, for the most part. People live there because they delude themselves into believing that having a beach makes it paradise.

      Plus, a whole lot more of the state is hillbilly hell than most people who only go to Orlando and Miami realize. At least half of the state is pure cracker to this day.

    2. Tampa’s fine. I like it. And no state or city income tax.

      1. I stayed in Sarasota for a little while, had some fun in Siesta Key including a late night drunken experience with some of the local wild animals that was….interesting.

        But I couldn’t live there.

        I’m used to the “redneck” silliness in Nashville but it’s urban enough and filled with transplants from across the states to keep it interesting. Not sure I could live permanently in Florida though.

        1. Tallahassee is like Austin without the interesting parts. Big school and cold springs, we got. Everything else, not so much. Although a friend’s band is playing tonight and they do awesome instrumental covers including the Star Wars Cantina song. So tonight, good local live music. Oh, and, the state headquarters for the Dept of Biz and Professional Regulation hosts a food truck gathering every thursday night in their parking lot. So we’re street food friendly.

      2. According to Drudge today, Tampa is also the capital of tax fraud.

        1. No kidding? Wonder why that is?

    3. Beach house on a 200 ft wide white powder sand beach on the Gulf. On the 4th of July, I can stand on the 3rd floor balcony and I might be able to see 100 people on the whole stretch. Now that I can work from any internet connection, I’m thinking of spending a good part of the summer there rather than just weekending.

  17. Somebody help me out here. What exactly is Pinker saying in that quote?

  18. [Parent Tenika] Jones says she didn’t sign it, but her son, Geirrea Bostick, was paddled anyway. … the principal spanked him twice for slapping another boy/i>

    Where is Mr. Bostick in all this?

      1. Not in the least.

    1. I was out bitch slapping my other ho. Does it matter?

  19. Does the non-aggression principle apply to parents of children?

    1. If it is their kid, no.

      1. I’m not sure why this matters, libertarians don’t believe parents “own” their kids to my knowledge (though I think they would assume parents would better watch over kids than the state).

    2. A topic, I gather, of much dispute, at least as far as corporal punishment goes.

      Children are wards of the parents, of course, and are not fully independent/responsible individuals. The parents have authority, and responsibility, for their children that they don’t have for fully independent/responsible individuals.

      Part of that responsibility is to raise them as functioning non-barbarian members of society. As a former child, I think discharging this responsibility can encompass non-abusive corporal punishment.

      Others disagree.

    3. Does the non-aggression principle apply to parents of children?

      Of course it does. Is physical discipline aggression? No.

    4. No. Parents are authorized to disciplne their children in order to teach the kids civility (“discipline” includes “agression” other than corporal). Somebody has to administer punishment and all other choices are more troubling.

  20. Oddly enough if you do that as a consenting adult as part of a pledging activity, it will get you in big trouble.

  21. It was common practice in rural Idaho late 70’s early 80’s when I was starting school. Cured my ADD after the first couple applications. It was the preferred pre-Ritalin method of dealing with problems and no one in my area I grew up with thought it was particularly barbaric at the time. And I wouldn’t have even dreamed of complaining to my parents or grandparents as that would only have only invited comparisons to how things were back when THEY were in school as well as further punishment.

    1. Parents finding out about the paddling just meant you got it twice.

    2. And I wouldn’t have even dreamed of complaining to my parents

      Complaining about it to my parents would have just brought down the Wrath of Dad. No thanks.

      1. So what lesson will the child learn from this? What incentives are created when you fail to discipline children?

        That poor kid is going to grow up with his hand stretched out and his brain turned off.

  22. Two or three swats with a paddle, it is over, done with and forgotten or suspensions and police involvement that can harm a kid for the rest of his life? I think the paddling is a kinder option.

    1. I agree. The way the current system is set up, the person standing up for themselves always gets it worse. If paddling is on the table, the damage is mitigated.

      I used to get paddled at school like 3 or 4 times a year for standing up for myself. The administration hates that. Rocking the boat and all that. It’s always much easier for the administration if the kid just shuts up and takes shit. Fuck em. I’d have a record as long as my arm if they didn’t paddle.

      1. I’d have a record as long as my arm if they didn’t paddle.

        I’d rather the record. Frame it, hang it somewhere prominent.

        1. Makes one somewhat unemployable, though.

    2. Personally I would take a temporarily painful and humiliating punishment like a few swats over all the drawn out bullshit they use these days. And vow not to fuck up again. It was nothing if not effective. I think one of the old schoolmarms in the quiet little white-bread mountain town I was in during 2nd grade started teaching there before WWII. Everyone was very well behaved, more like little house on the prairie than 90210.

      1. If I had to choose between being imprisoned for months or years, and a Singapore-style caning, I’d go with the caning (depending on the number of strikes, of course).

        1. My thoughts exactly when I was writing the above. And the odds of recidivism after a good “can’t sit down for a week” caning are pretty close to 0%. I think that kid would have winced every time he looked at a can of spray paint after that. Best to get your punishment over with, not to mention the pounding your ass took over 6 months in prison would likely be of a much different nature…

        2. What you’re forgetting is that Singapore-style canings aren’t just “go in, get swatted, go home.” No, if you’re sentenced to, say, ten thwacks of the cane, you go in, get your first thwack, wait until it heals (in jail, and it takes months), then get your next one, and repeat until you’ve received all your lashes.
          Get ’em all at once and you’d die. The cane isn’t a “stick” that gives you bruises, it’s a bamboo pole soaked in brine that breaks skin and rends flesh. You bleed all over the ground and you risk nasty infections.
          It’s not a spanking, dude. It’s a nasty form of violence, and it INCLUDES, not REPLACES, prison time.

  23. I’m definitely pro-corporal punishment, but not at 5. Or with a paddle. And I just can’t trust teachers nowadays. The system must change, then the strap comes back.

  24. I got paddled once in school. My parents had given permission. It was just like the paddle shown above. It did not hurt. It did not raise welts. It did the job though, and I never had to get paddled again at school (at home was another story).

    I have no problems with paddling. But if you’re putting some effort into the swing you’re paddling too hard. If it raises welts it’s no longer paddling. This is why I also think parental permission is required, and a second school official needs to be present. But I’m not going to go all weepy libruhl and demand Papabama outlaw the practice.

  25. I’m absolutely shock and amazed that no one has gone off on the Samurai Nuns. Heck, that guy could not hold a candle to the nuns I had in the day.

  26. If this was my kid, the principal would be running for her life.

  27. Just look at that smug bastard brandishing his paddle. He’s enjoying it just a wee bit too much…

  28. National Protest Against School Corporal Punishment will be held at TN State Capitol in Nashville Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. to Demand Governor Haslam and TN lawmakers Abolish Paddling (Sexual Assault when done to a non-consenting adult)/Pain to Punish Tennessee students K-12, already Illegal in Nashville Schools and Schools in 31 U.S. States. Search “A Violent Education” for disturbing facts including graphic descriptions of injuries to students, “Teacher Immunity Laws” and No Legal Redress, even the U.S. Supreme Court declines to hear school corporal punishment appeals! Support Federal Bill H.R. 3027 “The Ending Corporal Punishment in Schools Act” , languishing in U.S. Congress NOW, at donthitstudents dot com See Facebook page for Abolish School Corporal Punishment for more info

    1. I can only speak for myself, but I suspect that most of the folks here – including those with bad experiences of paddling – are going to hesitate about a new Congressional law to regulate school discipline all over the country.

      “Sure, the feds have plenty of money, why not spend it to get rid of paddlin’!”

  29. Corporal punishment is legal at private schools in 48 states.

    Public education wins!

  30. I note that the most common response to physical action against their children is physical action. Lots of scary guys here. Ahhaaahhh!

    1. Yeah, and we all want to fine thieves and imprison kidnappers too. Is there no end to the double-standards???

  31. School paddling is inconsistent with Title IX because it inherently impacts boys and girls unequally. Unlike boys, girls who have entered puberty would have to reveal intimate personal information in order to avoid the chance of this punishment being unfairly compounded by menstrual discomfort, or of being a risk factor where there is the possibility of pregnancy or other female-specific vulnerabilities. Either the school callously and/or recklessly does not address such concerns when paddling girls, or it intrusively does inquire about them. There are at least two known cases where paddling had medical consequences due to a student being female.

  32. With children of any age, moreover, discomfort following a paddling is apt to be greater for girls, due to pressure on the inflamed and/or contused area of their bodies resulting from their normal mode of urination or, alternatively, to muscular discomfort if they awkwardly avoid this pressure. This disparity was illustrated in the case of an 8-year-old in Florida who had to use her hands to support herself astride a toilet in order to urinate without aggravating the lingering pain she was experiencing (ref: State v. Paul E. King, Florida Supreme Court Case No. SC05-258).

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