Rick Santorum: "Federal Obscenity Laws Should Be Vigorously Enforced"
Should he be elected, Rick Santorum will bring his obsession with hardcore porn to the White House, according to a recently posted statement on the former senator's presidential campaign site:
America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography. A wealth of research is now available demonstrating that pornography causes profound brain changes in both children and adults, resulting in widespread negative consequences. Addiction to pornography is now common for adults and even for some children. The average age of first exposure to hard-core, Internet pornography is now 11. Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking.
Current federal "obscenity" laws prohibit distribution of hardcore (obscene) pornography on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and through the mail or by common carrier. Rick Santorum believes that federal obscenity laws should be vigorously enforced. "If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so."
The Obama Administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws. While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration.
I proudly support the efforts of the War on Illegal Pornography Coalition that has tirelessly fought to get federal obscenity laws enforced. That coalition is composed of 120 national, state, and local groups, including Morality in Media, Family Research Council, Focus on the Family, American Family Association, Cornerstone Family Council of New Hampshire, Pennsylvania Family Institute, Concerned Women for America, The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, and a host of other groups. Together we will prevail.
As Jesse Walker noted in his candidate profile, Santorum's obsession with porn dates back at least to 2005, when Santorum released The Aristocrats It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good. Read more on the case against Santorum here, and why even a second-place finish is too good for the puritan from Pennsylvania.
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Santorum is an embarrassing idiot. But question, isn't the Obama DOJ enforcing federal obscenity laws? Aren't they prosecuting the dog fucker guy? Or is that the state?
We'll pray for you John.
"Focus" like in Mall Rats.
It is frightening that Santorum's pornography viewpoint is popular with my fellow citizens.
But question, isn't the Obama DOJ enforcing federal obscenity laws? Aren't they prosecuting the dog fucker guy?
If they are, they're not doing it 'vigorously enough', and then spending 50% of their time decrying the horrors of dog-fucking and its pernicious effect on society and then patting themselves on the back for being so morally superior and protecting the children for everyone
See, the Santorum promises to do *that*
Just *prosectuting* people for being dirty-birds isn't enough. You have to constantly grandstand about it.
Isn't their copout that Bush started the prosecutions and they're just losing them? But they haven't started any new ones.
The election is still months away and the conservatives are already starting with the "but, but, but...Obama" excuses.
meh, 3/10
No one can hear you with Obama's dick in your mouth Tony
John IMMEDIATELY appears to sputter, "B-b-but Obama...!"
Never let a republican get criticized without trying to make it sound like Obama is worse. But you're not a shill!
I think John's point was to question Santorum's suggestion that Obama is not enforcing the obscenity laws.
Yes that case against Isaacs was a federal case by the DOJ. First of its kind in CA, where it happens to be legal (another case of commerce clause)
But to be fair, it was started back in 2005 if I recall, a mistrial occurred and they still pursued him again. Obviously though, Obama wouldn't want to be seen as
soft on crime/obscenity.
Actually, an overzealous prosecution regime could be a good thing, as I can't imagine SCOTUS would let the obscenity laws stand if Santorum's DOJ were prosecuting mainstream stuff.
"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."
Abraham Lincoln
Keep digging your own hole Santorum.
Why are you angry with God?
Because, really, he could have sent me some more pussy at some points in my life. God's got PLENTY of pussy, if he wants to share.
I'm not angry with God, just some of his fan club.
Unfortunately, I see what you did there.
Remind us again why there are so few female libertarians?
'cause bitches be crazy?
Remind me again why you think all women are sour-faced, prudish harridans?
Libertarians are the ONLY group that scored higher on systemizing than on empathizing?and they scored a lot higher. The authors go on to suggest that systemizing is "characteristic of the male brain, with very extreme scores indicating AUTISM."
The Science of Libertarian Morality
http://reason.com/archives/201.....ibertarian
And how do women score for monomania?
For an insult to work, it has to be conceptually connected to the discussion or one of the interlocutors.
Your feeble attempt at insult fails using every metric.
I know you are, but what am I?
Hi rectal!
you're male, and score higher on systemizing than on empathizing, right?
Hi rectal!
That is odd, because I generally see myself as being one of the most empathetic people in my friend group. I care deeply about the people I spend my time with, and I genuinely enjoy helping my friends and listening to my problems. I just have critical reasoning skills that go abit beyond "Oh Em Gee! There are people suffering and the gummint needs to make it better!!" I don't really like the uneven way that capitalism distributes resources, but every attempt to change that system causes more suffering and more inequality. See the USSR, Cambodia, Cuba, and god-awful North Korea.
*listening to THEIR problems.
You don't understand. "Empathy" no longer means caring about, and understanding the feelings of, other people, pets, or whatever.
It means "Oh Em Gee! There are people suffering and the gummint needs to make it better!!"
The alt-text should have been, "Those are actually men."
(Doesn't matter whether or not the people in the photo are actually men.)
Chuck: You gotta squeeze every penny. You see this tux? I got it cheap cause Roy Cone died in it.
Crowd: Ooh!
Chuck: That fancy yacht? A bargain cause it smells like cat pee.
Crowd: Ooooh!
Chuck: And those beautiful women? They used to be men.
Crowd: Eeew!
*squeezes penny so hard it disappears into my hand*
It's pretty simple. Women place a higher value upon safety than men, and are thus more prone to fall for the siren song of collectivism. (Their focus on safety isn't irrational; it's a necessary balance to the more aggressive tendencies of men. It's just their notion that collectivism is the solution that's mistaken.)
Alas, all too many men these days hear the song too.
I don't know....sounds like one of those Evolutionary Psych "Just So Stories" to me.
Got any evidence to support your assertion?
No. It's just an opinion. I happen to think that men and women are different. I know, that opinion is considered "extreme" and "misogynist" nowadays. Or "gender normed". Or some such shit.
Talk to women, particularly women with children. Think about your own upbringing. Use your powers of observation. See what you think.
Everything doesn't require a "scientific study" performed by geekish lab coats at a university. Us ordinary folks can learn about the world around us, sometimes.
Sorry, not a big fan of Folk psychology; the brain is too hard-wired to look at most things objectively without using the methodology of the scientific method.
When an "ordinary" guy or gal uses logic, reason, and the scientific method to find the cause of something, they are being a scientist...no lab coat required!
Anyway, your opinion might be correct. I don't know either way; I was just asking if you knew of any sources to support your point-of-view. As a skeptic (per my Buddhist religion!), I'm wary of simple blanket statements like "Women think/are X; Men think/are Y".
Stop being so elitist with your science and shit. Every day salt of the earth people like Enjoy Every Sandwich don't need no nerds tellin' them what to think.
That's fair. In my scientific opinion 😉
Skepticism is good way to live too. (LOL another opinion!) I just extend my skepticism to the "experts" and I don't necessarily look to them on every subject, especially the tricky subject of human relations.
A guy that spends all day in a lab might not be my best guide on that subject 😉
Your brush is too broad. Some women actually use the brains God gave them. I get tired of being lumped in with twinkies and bowheads.
Whats the alt-text say?
He can't help himself. He's like an addict.
Internet porn has addled my brain.
The anti porn people are nothing if not entertaining. Once in a while Kathryn Jean Lopez at NRO goes on an anti-porn bender. And the arguments are white indian level stupid and funny.
Men won't sleep with their wives because their minds are poisoned by porn. Gee Kathryn sorry your husband won't put out.
It destroys the sanctity of sex and makes it a dirty act. Only if it is done well there Kathryn.
The stuff is beyond parody.
"Pornography really does, unlike other addictions, biologically cause direct release of the most perfect addictive substance," Satinover said. "That is, it causes masturbation, which causes release of the naturally occurring opioids. It does what heroin can't do, in effect."
Internet Porn: Worse Than Crack?
by Ryan Singel
WIRED | Science Discoveries
http://www.wired.com/science/discover.....4/11/65772
Internet Porn: Worse Than Crack?
Dude, they got that headline all wrong. Almost *everything* is worse than crack. Crack is super cheap, and gets you wicked high. the challenge is to be *better* than crack. That would be impressive.
Pornography doesn't cause masturbation any more than guns cause murder.
"Correlation is not causation but it sure is a hint."
~Edward Rolf Tufte (statistician and professor emeritus of political science, statistics, and computer science at Yale University)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C....._causation
"Argument from authority is invalid."
-- Tulpa
Love White Idiot's selective quoting of wikipedia, and his posting of Wired articles like they're peer-reviewed science. Anyways, from that wikipage, right above the quote he posted, FROM THE SAME GUY:
"Empirically observed covariation is a necessary but not sufficient condition for causality."
Wait... so masturbation, but not sex, releases a naturally occuraing opiod?
Methinks this substance must be in Jergens and not in Astroglide.
They both release endorphins, this guy is a quack. Also, all of you body's endogonus opioid drugs are partial receptor agonists. They cause mild relaxation, and cna give a nice high if you get a really vigorous workout. Drugs like Heroin and Oxycodone are full opioid receptor agonists, and get you higher than your natural endorphins could ever dream of. This guy clearly fails hardcore at psychopharmacology.
Well, the guy did write an article about teh evol of intranetz pron, so I wouldn't expect him to actually know what the fuck he was talking about.
are you talking p*ssy crack or crack crack? All I can think of is my precious bodily fluids...
And those cops in the picture - if arrested by them, is it permissible to say "What a Bust!!!"
Gee Kathryn sorry your husband won't put out.
That thing is married?
Maybe some men won't sleep with their wives, because of porn. I mean, maybe some men won't go fishing because they've discovered they like green onions. Whatever.
But really, how many MORE men will be reminded by porn that they really like to screw, and the most readily-available, disease-free, inexpensive way to do that is just to sleep with their wives? I'm guessing that, on the whole, men have more sex with their wives BECAUSE of porn.
That's putting it very nicely...
The average age of first exposure to hard-core, Internet pornography is now 11.
My takeaway from this is that America's childern aren't being adequately educated on formulating effective on-line search strings.
Perhaps they were looking up who this guy Rick Santorum is.
+404
I'm sure in a Santorum administration both Spreading Santorum and Urban Dictionary will be prosecuted for obscenity.
One could point out that, in the one-room houses of 200 years ago, children usually got to see live sex from the time their eyes could focus.
But that was good old fashioned patriarchal sex when dad wanted it.
I was in possession of a couple Hustler magazines by the time I was 11. And I knew how to use them. That would be 1981, way before the internet.
it's hard to turn the pages
My mom found them when I was about 13. She scolded me that the models in the magazine were getting paid to do what they do, and that it was unrealistic to expect women in the "real world" to look and behave as the Hustler models. I told her I understood, and she gave me the magazines back.
Rick Santorum: Saving America From Boobies
if only he'd drop out of the race to save us from a Boob.
I personally hope that the porn industry is producing a Rick Santorum porn parody - the reaction would be too priceless
Quick! Get Lisa Ann on the phone!
I figured a Santorum porn parody would have to be teh gay.
Surprise gay no less.
Sausage Pizza Delivery!
It could still have women, it would just have to be a pegging movie.
Rick Santorum is uncomfortable with people getting sexually aroused. That is why he wants lawful restrictions on pornography.
Rick Santorum believes that federal obscenity laws should be vigorously enforced. "If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so."
*fap*fap*fap*fap*
Oh shit, he's gonna bring back Ed Meese
The only thing wrong with porn (and stripping and prostitution) is the silly negative stigma attached to them. Remove that and maybe the professions would be seen as the valuable service to the public that they are.
Holy Heinlein, with common sense like that, you'll never get elected to anything!
The future could be like Firefly, where prostitution is one of the classiest and most respectable of professions.
Or like the middle ages or classical antiquity.
And of course, do recall from that one episode that most prostitutes were not Companions and were not respected at all.
"No law," motherfucker. "No law."
It's not a law-law.
Sex is not speech!
He's still a great performance artist.
OT: Ahh...priorities...
Concerning the massacre in the Afghan village:
Stay classy, Kabul!
The same sorts of things would happen in medieval times. After all, when you are a mystic society, what's more important, death or appeasing God?
Appeasing God through death?
Appeasing the God of Death?
And why the fuck are we still there?
Because we're having so much success bringing western style liberal values to the country.
Actually, I think we have the key to victory.
"SURRENDER! OR WE'LL BURN THESE KORANS!"
Unfortunately, that's not going to work. As they say "The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death." They're just looking for any excuse to die in the name of their book.
We need to treat them like Klingons and keep them prisoner to bring dishonor upon them and their house or something.
Forced labor cleaning sanitary rags seems appropriate
What's obscene is Santorum. Fuck off, dude. Nobody likes you. They just want to express their displeasure that Romney is going to be the nominee.
Why are you angry with God?
Hate to depress you ProL, but it appears that a sizeable fraction of the American electorate DOES like Santorum.
I don't think so. Romney offends the standard GOP type who want to express their disfavor. Most of them are too wrapped up in Pax Americana to vote Paul, and Gingrich is viewed as a little loco. Leaving voters hip deep in Santorum.
It helps to have James Dobson's endorsement on Christfag radio.
hip balls deep in Santorum
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Wait, porn is illegal? Really?
It's vestigial law. If somehow Assjuice got elected president (never gonna happen), and had the DOJ actually enforce the law, then it would eventually get tossed by the SCOTUS.
He can have my porn when he pries it out of my cold, dead hands.
Woops, make that "cold dead, hand".
... I'm using the other one for something else!
"Hands" is correct. Don't orphan the balls.
Okay, I threw up.
Hairy orbs need love too.
Thanks, man. After The Caine Mutiny things were kind of rough for us.
Honestly....its:
He can have my porn when he pries it out of my cold, dead, sticky hands...
Eugene Volokh explains that Santorum would /probably/ be successful in shuttering websites, prosecuting porn viewers:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03.....ants-down/
Look out Utah
Jesus what is wrong with you old people... you keep thinking you can block content on the internet yet you've never successfully been able to do so.
If you think stopping pirated music and movies is hard, just try stopping porn. Go on now, I dare ya!
Do they want to turn Occupy into an actual movement, with a hundred million members?
Some smartass should ask him if he think's Chesty Puller should be in jail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Puller
I know who he is ....but damn what a porn name!
Hahaha! Great porn name. My neighbor, a retired Marine, has a portrait of Chesty in his living room window. I am looking at it right now. God does my neighbor like to talk about Chesty...
How much you want to bet that his definition of obscenity includes shutting down any website that explicates the widely-accepted definition of his name?
Meh. I stopped explicating when I got married.
It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking.
More than one politician has supported prostitution. Maybe we should outlaw politics too!
I proudly support the efforts of the War on Illegal Pornography Coalition ...
Haven't we had enough war for one generation?
Wars are wonderful when no one is actually shooting at me.
A wealth of research is now available demonstrating that pornography causes profound brain changes in both children and adults, resulting in widespread negative consequences.
Pleasure is bad, children. Mmmmkay?
"A wealth of research is now available demonstrating that pornography causes profound brain changes in both children and adults, resulting in widespread negative consequences. Addiction to pornography is now common for adults and even for some children."
Does any antiporn warrior ever feel even the slightest need to provide evidence to support this nonsense?
resulting in widespread negative consequences
I presume you are familiar with the term "snowball"?
And the next viewing of Obama does Dallas in a living room near you.Values please.
And if I want to watch Nailin' Palin in the privacy of my own living room, what business is it of yours?
Most of the women at the Oriental pleasure gardens have really bad carpal tunnel syndrome from the excessive wrist action when....massaging me....which is caused by the great number of massages I get...because of all the massage porn I watch....so yes, there are negative consequences....
And you posted that with your Fed e-mail address?
You got giant brass balls, my friend.
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898 characters, bitches!
What is this, Sesame Street?
With punctuation!
I support a war on illegal pornography. My key to victory: make it legal.
Sorry adults, you're not adult enough to be adult, so another adult is going to take away your adult things, because they don't like your choices....
Welcome to America!
""because they don't like your choices....""
Freedom = choice
They hate your freedom.
A wealth of research is now available demonstrating that pornography causes profound brain changes in both children and adults, resulting in widespread negative consequences.
Sounds like pornography and voting Republican carry the same consequences.
FIFY
Better!
One TEAM to rule them all. . . .
My key to victory: make it legal.
You filthy appeasers disgust me.
""I proudly support the efforts of the War on Illegal Pornography Coalition""
And this guy is in 2nd place. Many of the voting public love wars against US citizens.
My favorite version of the Aristocrats joke. Family comes into the talent agent. Mom plays piano, accompanied by daughter on harp, while Dad recites poetry. Meanwhile the son does oil painting of bucolic scene. Talent agent asks, so what do you call your act ? Dad replies, The Cocksucking Motherfuckers.
Seems very reminiscent of "Lick My Love Pump"
Thans Rick, the anal leakage coming out of your idiotic Bible-thumping mouth has actually made me hate Romney just a little bit less.
Culture-war douchebags like you play into every negative GOP stereotype. Unfortunately, dumbass GOP voters are showing us that some of those stereotypes are unfortunately very true.
GOP - is this really the best goddamn sorry-ass candidate you can drag on stage? Let's hear him sound off on Romney's heathen religion or Newt's multiple marriages...
Unfortunately, dumbass GOP voters are showing us that some of those stereotypes are unfortunately very true.
^This^
Maybe that's the real reason he's still around...
He probably figures that the porn laws will be easy to enforce; just look for the blind people with hair on their palms. He probably doesn't realise that most people fall into one of two categories: those who masturbate, and those who lie about it.
So is Rick running for President, or Pope?
And will he bring back Blue Laws while he's busy transforming America into a good little (Catholic) "Leave it to Beaver"-ville?
I've always wondered if there was a lot of surreptitious laughter on the set of that TV show, what with the kid being named "Beaver Cleaver".
I proudly support the efforts of the War on Illegal Pornography Coalition that has tirelessly fought to get federal obscenity laws enforced.
But don't worry, these people are strictly on the up and up; unlike MADD, for instance, they are immune from mission creep or the desire to constantly expand the range of their "responsibilities".They would never dream of trying to get the definition of "illegal" porn steadily broadened to include everything racier than Sears and Roebuck underwear ladies summer wear ads.
BTW what's illegal, apart from child porn? I've seen plenty of everything else imaginable on the 'net -- accidentally while trying to figure out the right Google search terms to get what I really wanted, of course.
Technically anything sexual can be "illegal". From Reader's link above:
"If the government wanted to aggressively move against Internet pornography, it could do so," explained Volokh. "Here's the deal: In most parts of the country, a lot of pornography on the Internet would plausibly be seen as obscene."
With obscenity it's not illegal in the sense you think, where you know ahead of time something is not allowed. They got around the 1st in their minds by not making any specific speech illegal or banned, but allowing other people to judge whether you should be thrown in jail or not.
It literally and solely relies upon the eye of the beholder--12 other people if you don't agree to a plea bargain. Materials that have been judged as obscene can still be technically distributed, which makes sense since it can possibly vary case by case even for the same work.
So you think it is fine for children to see pornography on the tv. Its an obsession with decency.
No. But I also don't believe that I need the government police what my children see on TV or whatever. That's a parent's job, not Ricky's.
There are many things that children should not see or handle until they are mature enough. Think about kitchen knives, electrical appliances, and the like. It is for the parents to decide what those things are and when the child is mature enough.
I'm not sure it's fine for children to watch TV at all. I seldom do it, myself, any more, especially with all the Internet porn out there.
What "pornography on the tv?" Where is there "pornography on the tv?" Or has the definition of the term, "pornography," like the term, "addiction," been over stretched to the point of meaninglessness?
Yes.
I'm from the UK and found the words over the picture very funny! Is 'wank' used in the US? I'm guessing not, since I'm the first to bring this up.
"Wank" is known in the States, but it is not as popular as some of the alternatives. "Wanker" is seen as a (funny) Briticism.
It's funny that you find 'wanker' funny. In the UK, calling someone a 'wanker' is one of the highest insults and a sure fire way to start a fight with a stranger.
If you think about it, why?
And isn't simply walking into a pub a sure fire way to start a fight with a stranger in the UK?
"And isn't simply walking into a pub a sure fire way to start a fight with a stranger in the UK?"
Aye, certainly. Especially if you're not from the village.
So you think it is fine for children to see pornography on the tv.
Obviously. And not just that wimpy gangbang stuff, neither. Snuff films. Torture. BESTIALITY!
a lot of surreptitious laughter on the set of that TV show
"Ward, you need to to give the beaver a good licking when you get home!"
Great now we'll have the War on Porn. Police assaults on everyone suspected of having porn which is everyone. Constitution shmonstitution.
good...we are encourage to see we have a foothold in your Republican party
And Santorum just lost the male vote.
(Hopefully.)
I wish Tom Leykis would hurry up and get back on the air. He'd have a field day on how Rick Santorum is the most pussified, pathetic excuse for a man in America right now.
Actually, Tom Leykis will be back April 2nd on the New Normal Network. He's not an overtly political show, but I doubt he'll be ignoring the crap coming out of the likes of Obama, Santorum and Romney.
"If elected, it will be illegal to Google my name."
Wait, maybe he means that he doesn't want SEC employees watching pron on government time...fair enough.
Considering how many people are creeped out by what Santorum did with his dead baby (many would even call it obscene), he probably shouldn't beat the drum too hard for federal authority to outlaw things that some people think are icky.
-jcr
I must put the question to Frothy's supporters: do you really believe that the country needs an Ed Meese wannabe in the white house?
-jcr