Burma Punks Way, Way Punker Than U.S.-Brand Punks
For your all-important daily dose of America hey, is not that bad, or if you're aching for an authoritarian regime to vicariously rebel against, check out this article in Spiegel Online (via Gawker) on the trials and serious tribulations of being a punk in Burma. Back in (London) punk's heyday Johnny Rotten may have been knifed in the hand by fans of Queen Elizabeth, but it's still just a whole other level of punk rock when you're doing it in one of the least free places on earth.
Der Spiegel:
The punk band Rebel Riot stands on a makeshift stage in an abandoned restaurant on the outskirts of downtown Rangoon, Burma's largest city. They wear their hair spiked straight up and studded leather jackets. "Saida! Saida! Saida!" singer Kyaw Kyaw barks into the microphone, "Resistance! Resistance! Resistance!" The drummer pounds away at his set while the guitars reverberate through the room. "No fear! No indecision! Rage against the system of the oppressors!" Kyaw Kyaw howls.
Meanwhile, about 50 fellow punks, none much older than 25, are romping around in front of the stage wearing T-shirts that say "Fuck Capitalism" or "Sex Pistols." They jump around wildly and fling themselves to the ground. The air is hot and sticky. The entire crowd sings along: "Resistance! Resistance! Resistance!"
In Burma, punk is far more than just a superficial copy of its Western counterpart. Here, what is probably the most rebellious of all subcultures in the Southeast Asian country is going up against one of the world's most authoritarian regimes. Punk gives young Burmese a chance to symbolically spit in the face of the hated government, which took power in 2010 in the wake of what was widely considered a fraudulent election. Although the government has shown initial signs of greater open-mindedness, which included the release of political prisoners in recent months, Burma is still far from a state that embraces the rule of law.
Read the rest here.
And check out the band Rebel Riot who sound just as authentically terrible as early Sex Pistols or Slits.
And definitely, definitely check out Michael C. Moynihan and Reason.tv's 2009 interview with Gorki Águila, lead singer of Cuban punk rock band Porno Para Ricardo.
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Doesn't matter much the political flavor of the city-Statism (civilization) regime.
Ahhhhh, punk. One of the most-useless phases of R&R.
You kids have fun not learning to play your instruments and yelling really loud raging against The Man!
It's popular with our local editors for some reason.
Punk brought down totalitarianism, you deniers!
Hey! That Almanian kid is in our backyard again!!!
I beg to differ, Almanian. Punk was a reaction to the god-awful, strictly commercial, stadium rock of the seventies (ie, Fleetwood Mac). Punk was trying to get rock back to it's roots. I don't listen to a lot of punk anymore, but I appreciate what they did.
And some of them can play their instruments. The Sex Pistols and the Ramones is not all of punk.
The Ramones could play their instruments very well. More importantly to their success they could play extremely well together. There was a hardly a more practiced band, who played more shows, in the entire rock genre.
The Pistols could play their instruments. Sid Vicious could not play bass, but he was brought on board for his "look" and probable early exit/ rock-n-roll suicide. Glen Matlock was a good musician, but Malcolm McLaren wanted to add a clown act to the Sex Pistols to drive publicity.
check out Billy Zoom, the guitarist for X. He could definitely play.
And yet, punk's ultimate form was Green Day, which is much, much worse than Fleetwood Mac...
Oh, please... This has pretty much the same level of musical aptitude as this. Sometimes it's about more than musicianship. Shit, I can hear incredible technical ability from Joe Satriani but who the fuck wants to listen to Joe Satriani?
Thread winner!
Do you know what "TV Party" and "Blowin' In the Wind" have in common? They're both awesome.
Um...uh...well...uh...
I did always like this one.
That's supposed to be this.
And for good measure, Zappa and Stevie Vai.
True. Anyone can sit down with a metronome and a book of scales, and eventually become a "cabbage" shredder.
However, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAOMGZVUP60
How exactly does one determine the usefulness of a phase of rock and roll?
First, get an English degree...
Spoken like someone who never went to CBGBs - "when it mattered".
and not all punk is "yelling really loud raging against The Man!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3coSfks4rQ
If it ain't loud and rebellious, it's probably new wave. NTTAWWT.
The sound of ignorance.
Musical incompetence knows no boundaries.
On the other hand, it takes some balls to sing lyrics like that in Burma.
The other band called Rebel Riot that shows up in the related videos list is authentically terrible. This Burmese one is just a cookie-cutter punk-since-Minor-Threat-made-it-boring band?whose sound is probably pretty secondary to other considerations.
Y U NO LIKE THE SLITS
I actually love the Slits. Saw 'em play in 2010(?) and talked to Ari Up about Barack Obama and how people's fever for him was creepy.
But the rest of your point is probably true. Still, really early Slits, they WERE the punks who actually couldn't play their instruments.
When you say "really early Slits," what you mean? Like their first record?
Hey, while you're here, have you heard about the new Penn's Sunday School? It's got Goudeau again, and it sounds like Monkey Tuesday may be revived.
I have yet to check it out. I need to get on that.
As do I.
I FINALLY saw Penn & Teller live at a show in St. Pete last month. Awesomely awesome. Only found out about it a few days beforehand, thank the God that Penn doesn't believe in.
It's fun. You need to listen to it. The Monkey Tuesday theme is as awesome as ever.
The sounds sucks. I just tried to listen to Episode 1 and gave up, because I couldn't hear it very well.
Hey now... Minor Threat didn't make punk boring. Ian MacKaye made punk boring when he started Fugazi.
I can't imagine I'll hear anything as stupid as this again today.
You've been around here how long and now you're going to start taking comments seriously?
I'm hungry and every little thing now looms as large as if the fate of the world hangs in the balance.
I should eat something.
To be fair, there was a kernel of truth to my statement: I love Minor Threat but have never been able to get into Fugazi. Can't explain why; just never clicked for me.
Really? Fugazi is definitely a genesis from Minor Threat/Egg Hunt/Embrace. The music is based on groove jams, coupled with sometimes cryptic lyrics. I think it is just those guys growing up musically, lyrically, and personally. Plus, I don't know if you ever saw Fugazi live, but it is THE LOUDEST FUCKING BAND I HAVE EVER HEARD IN CONCERT!!!
I'm with ClubMedSux. Fugazi was boring as tears.
Now we're really getting stupid. (I ate lunch so I know I'm not overreacting.)
Come on - Fugazi's pure genius. In fact, they're hands down the best punk band of the 90s (only competition I'd field might be Nation of Ulysses, Sleater-Kinney and Unwound.)
Then two of those same guys made punk totally awesome when they joined the Meatmen.
There's a band I haven't thought of in years. Off to Amazon I go!
And then Dag Nasty. Then Brian Baker formed Junkyard. We'll just pretend to forget about Junkyard.
The first punk group I ever saw at the tender age of 15 was Dag Nasty, opening for the Descendants.
Nice show. You're a Michigan guy, right? Where'd you see the show?
Burma is still far from a state that embraces the rule of law.
pffft. Burmese criminal code article X, section Y: All punks go to jail. Problem solved.
This seems appropriate
Not really one of my favorite bands (and the ridiculous amount of reverence Bostonites have for them is "wicked annoying"), but I always liked that one.
I never really thought about it like that before.
http://www.Gone-Anon.tk
Jeez. Punk rock is almost as divisive as deep dish pizza.
Geno's East and the Voidoids for the win!
Rage against the system of the oppressors!
Catchy.
And, "FUCK CAPITALISM"? Seriously? How do you ever expect to raise enough money to fund your resistance movement, dumbass?
When the government steals from you it's taxes, eminent domain, or seizures. If you steal from someone it is called theft.
We prefer the term "sharing." It's warmer and fuzzier.
Aaaar!
They're so punk they rebel against something their country doesn't even have yet.
Or, perhaps they're just advocating for capitalist prostitution.
The article sort of makes it sound like the Burmese government has only been oppressive since 2010. It's been under military rule since the 60's.
Props to the Krauts for using "Burma", not the post-revolutionary "Myanmar." Why we should change what we call a country because a bunch of genocidal psychopaths want to rewrite history, I'll never understand.
What are you supposed to call residents of "Myanmar", anyway? Myanmartins? Myanmarons?
Hear hear!
Why should anyone call us "The United States"?
What are we? Chopped babies?
German press also still uses Peking instead of Beijing.
And don't even get me started on Mumbai!
Kyaw Kyaw's jaw jaw recalls Lord Haw Haw's .
It's really, really disappointing to me when I don't get a joke/reference to Lord Haw Haw. Sigh.
Don't fret, Ms. Steigerwald, I think most people (myself definitely included) miss most of Dr. Seitz's references...
Someone should tell these kids that punk died in America and England and if anyone listens to Johnny Rotten they are fucking old.
Also Beethoven.
I would just like to go on record right now as saying that I very much so wish to sleep with the young woman shown in that photo (assuming she's not a child; I'm guessing 17?)
It's OK.
17, 13...we're libertarians!
50 fellow punks, none much older than 25, are romping around in front of the stage wearing T-shirts that say "Fuck Capitalism" ...
So what you're saying is that they're exactly like dumb 20yr olds anywhere else in the world.
Those people in the picture are nothing but POSERS! No real punk dresses like that!
I don't like this. This is just a way fools go. Punks in Public must and should be banned. It's like abusing everyone nearby.