Target Knows Your Daughter Is Knocked Up: More Upsides to Zero Privacy
People are willing to sell information about themselves quite cheaply—a couple of bucks off a grocery bill will get them to consistently use a discount card tied to their names, a coupon for in-store Starbucks coffee extracts a usable email address.
The ideas that stores keep tabs on their customers can seem creepy, but reflect for a moment on this interesting tale from this week's New York Times Magazine in mind:
About a year after Pole created his pregnancy-prediction model, a man walked into a Target outside Minneapolis and demanded to see the manager. He was clutching coupons that had been sent to his daughter, and he was angry, according to an employee who participated in the conversation.
"My daughter got this in the mail!" he said. "She's still in high school, and you're sending her coupons for baby clothes and cribs? Are you trying to encourage her to get pregnant?"
The manager didn't have any idea what the man was talking about. He looked at the mailer. Sure enough, it was addressed to the man's daughter and contained advertisements for maternity clothing, nursery furniture and pictures of smiling infants. The manager apologized and then called a few days later to apologize again.
On the phone, though, the father was somewhat abashed. "I had a talk with my daughter," he said. "It turns out there's been some activities in my house I haven't been completely aware of. She's due in August. I owe you an apology."
When people enter new phases of life—graduations, marriages, births—their buying habits are up for grabs. Target uses the mountains of data it collects to identify when those moments are about to occur and get people through their doors and into the habit of shopping at their stores. To do this, they send targeted ads and coupons for precisely the stuff that people in that phase of life want or need to buy.
For now, Target will even accommodate your need not to feel spied on, though I suspect that will diminish over time, much as it has with online advertising.
"We have the capacity to send every customer an ad booklet, specifically designed for them, that says, 'Here's everything you bought last week and a coupon for it,' " one Target executive told me. "We do that for grocery products all the time." But for pregnant women, Target's goal was selling them baby items they didn't even know they needed yet.
"With the pregnancy products, though, we learned that some women react badly," the executive said. "Then we started mixing in all these ads for things we knew pregnant women would never buy, so the baby ads looked random. We'd put an ad for a lawn mower next to diapers. We'd put a coupon for wineglasses next to infant clothes. That way, it looked like all the products were chosen by chance….As long as we don't spook her, it works."
Lots more Reason on the upsides of living in Database Nation.
Via Conor Friedersdorf.
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Great, now if they could only send out a treadmill ad to my GF so I don't have to tell her she's overweight.
I'll tell her. What's her number?
Capitalists are always trying to fuck somebody.
Unlike nice guys like me.
Isn't everybody always trying to fuck somebody? Or failing that a warm piece of fruit?
This makes me want to get one of their "Redcards" more. I will happily trade information about what I buy in exchange for cheaper prices on...what I buy. Seems win-win to me, awkwardly hilarious consequences aside.
The redcard is the deal. And the nice thing is, you can modify your profile to not get any ads if you don't want them.
And at 5% off, I'm likely to save a couple hundred bucks a year, not to mention what I get off with the instant coupons they print me every time I buy more than $50 worth of stuff.
Hmmm... maybe the folks who compute the CPI have a redcard... it all makes sense now.
I still find it obnoxious. If I want a product, I will go out and find it myself. I don't need to be encouraged to spend more money.
My solution to this is only to use store discount cards that I find on the ground. Or just take the card and not fill out the form.
SLDA
You can fill out the form; just fill it with bullshit. I find the cards annoying, so I generally only shop in places that don't have them. I'll pay a little more to not be annoyed and required to carry around a little card.
Bill Clinton, coincidentally, has been buying the same groceries I have...since the '90s!
His address is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C.
I'm more annoyed at being asked if I have a store card every time I buy anything.
I'll pay a little more to not be annoyed and required to carry around a little card.
You don't need to carry around a little card; you only need to carry around in your mind your phone number - ersatz of course.
Kroger thinks I live in Mulligans Valley, CO.
I think I picked a zip in the Denver area.
When I got a Kroger card they handed me the packet and told me to bring it back filled out. It already worked so I didn't see the need to fill it out.
In grad school we had a basket of the things in the Grad Student lounge.
Put one in, take one out. Confuse the data miners. I pretty sure I got a grocery store card that had been used by a female observant Muslim student for a year or two. I bought bacon with it.
That was before the best goodies came in the mail. These days most places give you an incentive to the use a correct address and stick with one card. You still don't have to give them your real name because they don't care. As far as they're concerned they're predicting and encouraging the buying habits of account 257907321.
Of course, if you use a credit card or a check in connection with the loyalty card you've thrown away any anonymity you had.
Now if only online ad services could do as well. I've got two ads for maternity wear here.
Time for a pregnancy test, Zeb.
People are willing to sell information about themselves quite cheaply?a couple of bucks off a grocery bill will get them to consistently use a discount card tied to their names.
I suspect the people who give their real names and real contact info for those cards? Are the same people who buy male enhancement products from spammers.
People are willing to sell information about themselves quite cheaply
Or for nothing at all.
+666 Internets
We have LOTS of information on people!
It is kinda annoying, but it is largely voluntary, as opposed to the relentless spying of the state.
That may well be the coolest thign ever dude, I mean like wow.
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People are willing to sell information about themselves quite cheaply
The store really has the information already.
They know "Man X walked in at 11:23 PM and bought condoms."
That's not really your information. That's the store's information.
What you're selling them is the opportunity to follow up with you about the information they already have.
You're selling them "Here is Man X's email address so you can send him a coupon for more condoms".
Lucky, unmarried, and getting laid bastard.
Despite millions of hours (?billions?) surfing the innertubes for very, very, specific porn (big bootied women of a particular race) I get nothing but spam offering chubby hairy white bears.
I don't mind them tracking me to satisfy my wants, but they fill my in box with that stuff and deprive me of dirty, filthy, perverted big booty porn spam! OPPORTUNITY COST! Its an outrage!!!
We'd put a coupon for wineglasses next to infant clothes.
Sounds right.
"People are willing to sell information about themselves quite cheaply?a couple of bucks off a grocery bill will get them to consistently use a discount card tied to their names."
Which is why I have never had one of these damned store loyalty cards right from the first time they were offered at the local supermarket and pharmacy.
... and never will!
I don't really see a problem here. I shop at the stores I want to shop at and get discounts and coupons that are relevant to my purchasing habits. The store is called TARGET for Pete's sake. I agree the little card is a pain in the ass, but it's a small pain that, to me, is worth saving the money on what I'm going to be buying anyway. It fits in my wallet right next to my credit card.
The store cards are entirely voluntary and it is absolutely OK to provide false or misleading data, such as fake address, age and gender... you just need to remember your fake phone number. All this and a discount too, what's the problem?
Of course, by providing a different name to every store you can determine exactly who sold your details on.
Pizza hut, for instance must have turned Manuel Labor's---Profession: ditch digger; Race:Hispanic; Education: Didn't graduate HS, more or less literate; Age: Forever 24; (Am I a bad person? Of course.)---data over in a real hurry, because he started getting junk mail of all kinds within a month of my ordering a pizza in his name.
While Safeway may have been able to put together my real name because I always use my ATM card, but at least the information provide on the cash register receipt has not changed. I silently giggle every time the cashier looks at the reciept and says, "Have a good day Mr. Slacker."
Buy a pregnancy test at Rite Aid and use a Wellness+ card, and you're pretty much guaranteed to get a coupon on the receipt good for prenatal vitamins.
I'd be curious to see the stats on the redemption rate for those coupons.