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Debate, eh?
Yesiree, but I think we're here early.
Let's you and I debate.
Why won't you release your medical records? Is it because you are an illegal or because you are a gay?
It's because he's gay married to an undocumented fetus.
Because I am a robot and thus lack medical records.
OK, fair enough. How about maintenance records then?
HOW DARE YOU BRING THAT UP, AND ON DEBATE NIGHT OF ALL NIGHTS.
Ha! You don't see sloopy denying it, do you?!
I'm looking forward to this.
I have "I'm Paying the Cost to be the Boss" on repeat.
"I believe the federal government has grown out of control, threatening the rights, liberties, and property of the people," Goalie Tim Thomas said in a statement. The decision to stay away, Thomas said, "was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/ne.....ama-bruins
Thomas is my new sports hero.
Ugh.. bruins..
The only thing that would make his statement more appealing is if he was in full butterfly when he did it.
GONG SHOW
I have to admit, as much as I hate seeing Gingrich win and what it says about our voters, I am super excited to see what the Romneybot can do in attack mode.
I hope they did a patch update with new zingers.
Yeah but now he sounds like Siri
Anyway, what channel is this turd on?
NBC
Yeah, I'm skippin this. I'll go to bed not thinking about armegeddon instead.
While you wait:
Chuck E. Cheese is a Crip. He wears blue. He has a big-ass "C" on his shirt and here he is doing the "Crip Walk".
He can join Jimmy and Timmeh.
http://www.southparkstudios.co.....an-come-on
Requests for tonight: Paul to hammer Gingrich on Freddie Mac stuff; and a question about Rand's detention today.
Who else turns the debates into drinking games? It'll git you drunk!
i see you're new here.
Nope not tonight, got to be able to get through the SOTU y'know.
Monday Night Debate Yall!!!
Okay, Brian Williams, charm our socks off!
Is tonight's topic Movie Trivia?
Newt will Take "Ape Tit" for 400, Brian.
Lol On-screen TV Guide says Fear Factor....Seems about right.
LOL
Joe Rogan would be an improvement on most debate moderators.
That would be awesome. "Now before answering my next question, each of you will be required to eat a live scorpion."
Boom. Ron Paul: Loser.
Three winners on stage, three big losses for the American people.
Electability Ron Paul do you have any?
Are you ready for some DEbate!!!
Who is this solid conservative of which Newt speaks?
Last Night's Taco Bell in about 4 hours.
zing!
Wow, only THREE WORDS to get to "Reagan."
GOP three degrees of Reagan
Hahahaha. My thoughts exactly
Newt Gingrich talking about "the Washington establishment".... still waiting for his head to explode.
I agree with Newt, we need someone like that guy that he just described. Too bad, he isn't him.
Oh, it's time already for me to beg someone to point out that the social security IOUs beg to differ about those balanced budgets?
Gingrich: Listen to some of these talking points, all of em are because of me 100%.
So, Newt is campaigning on Bill Clinton's behalf?
I got here late, how many times has Newt said "Tip O'Neil?"
DIS.
GRACE.
DIS.
GRACE.
Speaking of a long ass time ago, Dr. Paul, newsletters?
Fuck, we're going to get stuck with Mittens vs. Nuclear Titties most of the night.
Wrote this in an earlier thread; I'll ask it here instead:
What's up with this whole "nuclear titties" play on Gingrich's name, exactly? Did I miss something around here?
That was from Pro Libertate.
OK, that's a start. I like Pro Libertate.
So, uh... like, what's the pun all about?
Have you seen Gingrich's corpulent ass? He must have some major moobage. Hence, NEWcular Titties.
OK, I guess this is what my pedantic, aspergerish, irritating self is getting at: Was "nuclear titties" some sort of preexisting, pre-Newt little catchphrase?
Like, when somebody says "Hitlery Clinton" or "King George Bush," those are little puns based on existing familiar phrases. Which existing familiar phrase is "Newcular Titties" based on?
And the correct spelling is "Newcular Titties".
Unless I'm too drunk to remember the correct spelling.
Nah, you're right. Stupid me.
I think I'll enjoy Santorum not taking this well. You can usually count on him to take things super personally.
So what are the odds Brian Williams brings up TSA and Rand Paul tonight to Ron?
1:33
DEFLECTION!!! It's my speciality.
Newt
Newt is doing a terrible job not wasting our time.
LMAO
Don't believe the hype (it's a sequel)
Trivial Politics - (n.) anything that paints Newt in an unfavorable picture.
Ron Paul, is Mitt electable?
Rick, what do you think of Ron's answer about Mitt's electability?
Did Paul and Santorum drop through the floor already?
Newt is angry at his lectern.
Come on Romney-bot turn it up to eleventy-one!!
I'm still at work so can't watch but here's Jezebel complaining about Steak and Blowjob day:
http://jezebel.com/5878562/int.....enate-seat
Choice comment:
That is what Valentine's day is, hence the need for S&BJ; day. Also, great "patriarchy" line about how every day is a special man day. What day do non-fahters have?
I'm betting she actually a frigid bitch and doesn't suck her non-existent guy's dick.
I don't know man, that is the most attractive sounding wording I've ever heard on that board. And I agree with her about the 'special day'. Fuck that shit. Valentine's Day is an excuse for the frigid assholes to hold back for the rest of the year.
Great way to kick off March Madness.
BTW...summary version of the jezebel comments: My boyfriend isn't like that because he's gay.
Holy crap. The 90s? Newt's been an asshole much much more recently, Mitt. What are you doing?
LOBBYIST!
REAGAN!!
Meh, if I can't hear Paul beat up on everyone, Mittens hammering Newt on being a scumbag will work.
Mitt learned that South Carolinians are idiots.
Bingo.
+1
I wonder if Santorum got a bit excited when Mittens said he had "incoming from all sides."
I'd love to see Mitch Daniels come storming out of the back of the stage and just clothes line all these guys (except Ron Paul). Then him and Ron would dance all over the stage.
I too, often wish that these debates ran similar plot lines to pro wrestling.
I actually watched wrestling tonight instead of this. Worked out well for me I think.
I miss Herman Cain.
9-9-9!
Fixed that for you.
The ethics charges without substance? Yeah, we did those.
Mitt a terrible historian? Talk about the kettle calling the pot a minority.
Newt is both a terrible financier and terrible historian.
Bingo
Ron Paul, are you still awake? Good. Now, back to you Governor...
LOL
Seriously, move on to the other candidates.
Rick Santorum speaks, my wife leaves the room.
That's a euphemism, Rick. Google it.
+1
YAWNNN.
Santorum's path to victory? Something to do with dead babies.
What a fuckin douchebag. Why is he still around?
'cause Newt could still implode (is likely to?) and 'cause everyone still dislikes RomneyBot.
Wow, Santorum is not going to take any responsibility for that headwind.
Santorum talking about crouching and sneaking in.
Wow, I'm glad to see this will be another debate with substantive questions.
Is drinking whenever someone mentions Reagan one if the rules? If not, it should be.
You should always drink when someone mentions Reagan whether it's a debate or not.
For the record, I'm still rather peeved about this site nuking the salty ham tears thread.
"Ron Paul, your little group of supporters are so cute..."
3rd party!!!! Drink!!!
14 minutes in and Paul speaks!
OK, so Brian Williams doesn't know what "begs the question" means.
"honest answer" Fuck you Brian Williams.
He just called Paul a liar!
Santorum wants to remind us he didn't just lose a Senate race, he was involved in one of the biggest electoral meltdowns in GOP history.
+1
I am on the USF campus everyday, where the debate is being held. Lot of Ron Paul signs and supporters among the students. A friend just texted me that there are a lot of Paul supporters at the student watch party outside the debate...
Cut his mic! We must protect the Iowa narrative!
Jesus H. Not the "sincerity" and "third party candidate" thing again.
Ron Paul, making his case by talking about the machinations of the Iowa caucuses.
Paul calling out Newt, awesomeness.
Agreed
What's the point of this questioning? Shouldn't a debate be about issues concerning the electorate, not about what your plans are after you lose?
Silly rabbit, issues are for terrorists!
Ron Paul, why the hell aren't you a team player?
Ron Paul, since you can't win who would you endorse? What a load of crap.
Brian Williams is about 2 questions from gently taking Paul and guiding him off the stage.
I just looked up "asshole" in the dictionary and saw a pic of Brian Wilson.
Williams too.
Beach Boys or SF Giants?
Which Wilson was it?
"Drove downtown in the rain..."
Newt Gingrich doesn't listen to anyone but Newt Gingrich.
Taxes!
Why is Brian Williams using his pillow talk voice?
So this is why NBC sucks so much!
Seabiscuit got fewer horse-race questions than this!
Romney Tax write-offs for Mormon lingerie!!
Congressman Paul, when exactly are you going to run third party, or will you support one of the three big government 'conservatives' here on stage with you when they get the nomination?
I actually kind of wish he'd ask the other candidates if they'd want an endorsement from Paul, given that they think he's irrelevant and has dangerous opinions.
It would be nice to have them put on the spot.
Candidate Santorichney: I'd love for Ron Paul to tell his supporters to abandon their principles and vote for me!
Nice that Paul's only questions so far are: 3rd party? work with one of the jokers on stage with you?
Romney demands to see our tax returns now! What are we hiding, huh?
Brian Williams apparently just wants to attack the individual candidates instead of talking about issues. RomneyBot, what about your taxes? Paul, why are you still here?
Could those cads behind Brian Williams be any whiter?
Mittens wants a pro-growth tax policy. Growth of what, exactly?
Do I put money in the Caymans? Sure.
Romneybot seems to have caught the Perry virus.
Gingrich is such a fuck.
Could we have one question about any relevant issue? Is one really too much to ask? Who gives a shit about Mitt's taxes.
What the hell just happened? Did Mitt try to score points by pointing that a fellow Republican's plan would result in him paying too little taxes?
I think he was about to. This is getting sad. Mittens needs new emotion and logic chip.
Decent answer from Newt. Damn hate to admit it.
RomneyBot doesn't have a father: He has a manufacturer.
They're talking about the previous model.
Alan Greespan. Not discredited yet?
Newt quotes Alan Greenspan - way to get the get the Paul voters!
And they slipped in a tax policy answer - sneaky bastards, when they were getting all those beautiful process questions.
If everyone's tax rate is zero, howya going to pay for kicking out the ill eagles and keeping the Moose Limbs at bay, Newt?
The moonbase will pay for itself. With child labor of course.
"Are you concerned with the degree to which we, the MSM, talk about your wealth?"
"Let's be frank, you are a rich bastard."
I don't know who to hate without the South Carolina crowd cheering.
Could those cads behind Brian Williams be any whiter?
they look like extras from Eyes Wide Shut
Staples employs ditch diggers, for American Christ's sake!
I get the economics, but rich guys bragging about how little they paid in taxes is a loser with the rubes.
"I'm not going to apologize just because most Americans are losers."
Brian Williams is a complete disaster as a moderator.
25 minutes in, not a single real question.
Agreed. This is a snooze.
NO TOUCHING.
Santorum confused. Starts lying about believing in capitalism and free markets.
Santorum "I believe in capitalsim. I believe in free markets. But not for teh gayz!"
or "I believe in it, but just don't practice it."
Both Santorum & Paul haven't attacked Romney on Bain...
Santorum attacking the bailout. Nice.
Definitely need more of it.
Uh, could we expand the merits of your various tax proposals a little bit beyond how Mitt Romney personally benefits from them?
Once again, Attack-dog Santorum is great.
Agreed
Romney is upset that Gingrich's TPS reports did NOT have the proper cover on them.
Can someone explain the difference between Brian Williams' voice and someone falling asleep?
omg i think romney just smiled. like a for real smile.
Uh oh, do we need to get Decker to run the empathy test on him?
Dude, it's the Voight-Kampff test.
And Romney would probably fail...not because he isn't human, but because he sucks. 🙂
Did Romney consult for Congress?
I was a historian dammit! A h-i-s-t-o-rian!!!! Move on!!!
Single (non-Leher) moderator debate blow goats.
It's like high-schoolers egging on fellow-students to fight each other. "He just called you a lobbyist!"
The four candidates should just walk off the stage and shove it to Brian Williams. This is just getting silly.
Leave his personal relationship with Freddie Mac alone!
It was an open marriage.
Careful Newt, you already used your despicable face for the time you cheated on your 2nd wife, might want to scale back the response to an accusation of influence peddling.
If you were that fucking close to lobbying, is that really better than technically lobbying?
So long, Astoria.
Newt is such a lying weasel.
Pointing out how everyone at your company had to get in depth legal training on lobbying law does not really futher your argument that you weren't involved in lobbying.
Gingirch: Romney, I don't think you understand how bad-ass of a historian I am. I am a pretty big fucking deal!
Fuck it, just give Obama another four.
Hell, I'm rethinking the 22nd amendment if it's this group ever again.
Romney knows corruption when he sees it.
When does Paul take the stage?
Who?
You missed the token Paul questions. Check upthread.
mleewelch:
Brian Williams is so awful that the candidates are now just asking each other questions. It's a great improvement.
lmao!!!
Gringrich did not lobby. He just "provided strategic advice to government sponsored enterprises".
Historian, consultant, lobbyist...
How about we just say CORRUPT WHORE and move on?
Fuck, I've gotta cheer Mittens here. Hammer that fucker.
Did Brian Williams die? Should someone check on him?
Brian Williams has officially lost control of the debate.
I don't think he really cares.
Awkward time!!!
I wish there was a candidate who had been warning everyone of the financial disaster before it happened. I'd like to hear a guy like that speak.
Is Newt's head expanding like a puffer fish right now?
The size and shape of his cranium disturb me
Gotta love Newt's big government conservatism.
I'm not your friend, pal.
I'm not your pal, buddy.
I'm not your pal, guy!!
I'm not your pal, friend.
Almost Newt Hulk Smash, but he stepped back.
I'm beginning to suspect a giant cage will be lowered from the ceiling and Vince McMahon to grab the mic from Brian Williams.
Just wait till you hear the glass break and Stone Cold saunters out and pours beer on everyone.
But wait! Who's that coming through the crowd? Then the music hits....
If Ya Smellllllllll!!! What the Rock...Is Cookin'!
Man you guys are old.
nowadays it's the sound of static and then Living Color blasts 'Cult of Personality.'
oh mitt you beautiful bastard. i still won't vote for you but damn!
"I did, too advocate for more govt spending!"
petersuderman:
Bain, in fact, took advantage of tax carve outs and advantages whenever it could.
I don't have a problem with that, as long as they didn't lobby to create those tax advantages.
Yeah, doesn't every family?
I don' hass a prollem wif big sam gittin' lite cotten duty, so lon' az he dinnit aks da massa fo it.
Oh god, Romney is playing directly in to gingrichs plan. What the hell is he doing?
Also will they just let Romney and Gingrich just argue all night?
Newt is too arrogant to know when to change the subject
Did I just hear the Mortal Kombat theme?
TEST YOUR MIGHT!
It has begun!
That was painful to watch
Is there a moderator there?
only a progressivator
Where ya at Brian/
Have they asked Ron Paul anything yet?
Yes, if he'd endorse Newt.
And if not, if he will run 3rd party. So I guess the newsletters and airline tickets will be next.
Yeah, why he was still on stage.
Haha they just stop the argument to go to commercial.
See, free enterprise does conquer all.
Brian Williams: Girls, you're both pretty.
And so are your homely sisters on the left and right of you.
Newt defending big government subsidies. And morons vote for this guy.
We've let this go because, well, Ron Paul *shurgs* y'know?
Oops. Romney just jammed Newt up. Didn't think he had it in him.
So lets see: 30 minutes, divided by four candidates, = 7.5 minutes each.
So, pretty much fair, right?
After the break: Dance off!
Santorum says "minions"!
I can't stand the commercials for Smash. They are all over Hulu and NBC On Demand.
Is that smash the way The Jersey Shore uses the term smash?
Kathy McPhee is super cute though, and that draws a lot of water in this town.
Yes, I should really just mute the TeeVee.
A quarter of the way through the debate, and the only questions RP has had is whether hell promise not to run third party, and if he'll endorse Newcular Titties.
Smash: Like Glee but with grownups.
"I've always pictured Newt Gingrich glazed with an apple in his mouth."
I may have a vorarephilia fetish, but that's disgusting.
Newt huffs and puffs.
Houses in Tampa are cheap because most of them are shitty.
I want minions, do I have to be Senate Majority leader to get them?
"Congressman Paul, when you inevitably lose, will you apologize personally to me for forcing me to ask you one or two questions tonight."
oh hey, who was warning about the housing crisis in 2001? i don't know, maybe that dude ron paul.
Hey, look at that, he's on the stage
Where?! Are you sure?
I picture Newt as Kai Winn from DS9.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Winn_Adami
Santorum: We saw the housing crisis coming in 2005 and 2006, but we laughed at Ron Paul when he said it was coming in 2003.
Let capitalism work! Just not yet....
Newt defending his support of Medicare Part D should have killed his campaign right then and there.
But, but but he is the choice of the TEA party!?!?
Santorum: let capitalism work....the way I command it.
romney looks like, "damn, rick, that's not half a bad idea. i'll have to use that."
Has Ron Paul pulled out a lawn chair and a newspaper yet?
it might give him a bump in the polls
Who is this old dude talking about economic policy?
Audience member who walked on stage.
When Santorum talks, I just see the Conan O' Brien schtick where he replaces someone else's mouth in a celeb/pols pic and Conan interviews him
You too?
Santorum wants to punish responsible homeowners by shifting the tax burden of people who are underwater on McMandions to them.
"The bubble was easily seen"
Apparently not. Newt, the "historian" didn't see it coming while he was advising Freddie Mac.
pretty sure he saw it, recognized it, and carved out $1.6 million of it for himself.
Newt is thinking "We want prices to come down? What? That doesn't make sense."
Go, Ron!
(Leave him alone, Brian.)
Anyone see a Republican candidate offering a cabinet spot to Paul?
Probably Education.
Yeah- the one with the Kennedy china set, above the sink.
Aren't cabinet positions usually a handout you give to the guys who supported you? I don't see Ron really throwing his weight behind any of these guys.
It's sad that RP has to use his speaking time just to explain how we got here rather than how to fix it, because most people still don't get understand that it's the gov't and the fed's fault.
But will he endorse Newt? Focus on the important stuff.
Paul actually getting his message across clearly?
Unfortunately, it's probably too complicated for most people.
God I love Ron Paul.
Same
lost decade comparison for the win?
holy shit they let him speak long enough to get to his point.
IKR? I was just waiting for Williams to cut him off.
Black people janitor jobs?
Newt will now correct Ron Paul.
Oh no, Romney started speaking. He flip flopped while speaking. "Yes we help them." "We have to get government out of the way"
He doesn't flip flop: He twirls.
LOL
Twirling Twirling... Always Twirling
Paul gives a 2 minute history of the federal reserve over the last two decades.
Yeah, jesus that was amazing. He was so clear and composed.
FUCK YOU MITTENS
Ohhhhh please go to Paul after this answers from Romney.
What if I want a bank in my garage, asshole?
You may laugh, but in the 1980s they converted a garage in someone's house at Williamsbr. Rd. & Rhinelander Ave. here in the Bronx into a drive-in bank.
Remember, with Newt it is only words.
It's all he has to steal our hearts away.
Don't you mean steal our souls away?
Wait, he was going to give each candidate 30 seconds, then he was just kidding and leaving it to Romney and Gingrich.
"When you give that much power to Geitner"
Don't people realize that Newt is the only human capable of wielding power responsibly?
how the fuck does Romney know about The People's Choice Bank??? And it is a car port Romney, not a garage!
Why is Mitt against my garage bank?
The real Romney just shone through that answer.
Romney: You have to regulate markets because people aren't smart enough to avoid garage banks.
Romney: "Free markets need to be regulated."
Romney: Regulation made me a BUNCH of money.
Garage banks. That's how the Dave Clark Five started.
Didn't Castro already die?
His double, yes.
Invade Cuba!!!
Why not? This Iran shit might not pan out. Gotta have a backup plan.
Yes, Mittens, bad shit happened because of bad regulations. Good thing someone as smart as you can tell us little people how to do business.
Don't let them in?
Cigar?
This audience doesn't even know how to applaud. These are Florida Republicans - they had an obvious applause line about Castro's death and the applause should have lasted for the rest of the hour!
Is Mitt going to make us all go on a hunger strike?
Romney: We will fight for democracy whether the people want it or not."
Saying we will fight for democracy in Cuba?
Is Mittens saying we should go to war with Cuba too?
No, but I am.
I thought we were talking about Houses?
Wet foot? Watch it ...
Newt's solution to Cuba: More nation building!
Newt thinks God is going to offload the final judgment of Fidel Castro onto some Indian angel.
"We need to stand for the freedom of Cubans by preventing them from travelling or accessing goods and services outside Cuba."
There is already new leadership in Cuba. (well at least non-Fidel leadership, though not-Castro). Castro's death doesn't matter in the short term! Who are these 'credible people?' They should be the first ones up for budget cuts.
Leave the judging to Jesus, Newt!
Cuban spring? WTF? Why is this the U.S.'s responsibility?
Cuban Spring? Isn't that pretty much all the time down there?
Bay of Newts.
+1963
Shit, Titties wants to invade Cuba too.
Thatcher? DRINK!
Gingrich wants to invade Cuba now too.
Cuba=Libya?
Another president who will not tolerate Castro.
Because CIA actions have worked so well in Cuba before.
GO RON!
Nicely done, saying he's against the isolationism.
Ron Paul = anti-isolationist. FTW!
YES!! He finally made the point that sanctions are the real isolationism.
Newt: "We will use all available assets like covert operations. BTW, let me take a moment to reassure Iran that the U.S. did not kill that nuclear scientist of theirs a few days ago. Cross my heart."
Woo Paul!
That did not sound like isolationism to me...
More applause for Paul's "isolationist" Cuba answer.
Will the media point out the first audible round of applause went to Paul and it was about foreign policy?
Paul gets some applause! Yes!
These Floridians (right?) like the idea of friendly relations with their next door neighbors.
Younger, second gen Cubans in FL are kinda sick of the sanctions
Tomorrow's Headline: Isolationist Ron Paul Doesn't Like Isolationism, Loves Communists
"We don't have to use force and intimidation"
Sure we do. How else are we going to justify our defense budget?
Paul hit that out of the park. It's just too bad it won't sell to the neocons that dominate TEAM RED.
Santorum going batshit ass insane now!!!
Protect the hemisphere from Cuba!
I hear their 1962 VW bugs are pretty lethal on the battlefield.
And the behemoth minions!
Starving Cuban children: an important US policy.
Iraaaaaaannnnnnn!!!!
Santorum concede's Paul's point that it's not 1962.
Someone needs to factcheck that.
So China the country with ICBM's that can hit the USA get love, but Cuba which is just some guys in inner tubes get none.
Yeah, Ricky, those sanctions over the past 40+ years have worked wonders to bring Cuba to freedom.
Yeah, the Cuban people love us for our sanctions.
Santorum sees you invade Cuba and raises invage Venezuela and Nicaragua.
+1000
War on Terror?
Who isn't working with the jihadists?
Santorum goes from Cuba to jihadists! Someone must protect us!
Doesn't Santorum know his fellow Catholics?
Santorum to Cubans: You are not going to be free until you stop being so unfree.
Oh, Iran is working with Cuba. Why didn't anyone besides Assjuice know about this?
Did they just release the doves?
Yes Rick, Cuban atheists and Mexican Catholics just love those Muslim jihadists.
Cuba apparently must burn, atleast until they become the 52nd state...
I think it would be the 58th state, 59th if you make Puerto Rico a state first. (Using Obama's count, anyway.)
Naval contraction.
Air, Space, Seas. ALL OURS BITCHES!
Not Cyberspace, biotch.
What if the Somali pirates start harassing our aircraft carriers?
So I guess that China should be threatened by the countries who trade and deal with Taiwan, little island off its coast
Sooo....how many neocons beat off every time they hear "Aircraft Carrier".
Forget nukes, anti-ship missiles are the real force that stops us from invading places.
There are two kinds of naval vessels: subs and targets.
But we're down to, what? 11 carriers AFAIK.
Let's build 15,000 ships per year!
16,000. You are weak.
While we're at it we should have parades through the capitol with our our nuclear missle launcers, comrade.
The American people get bored with the idea of war.
"The American people have no desire to go to war anywhere... that's why I advocate covert operations, and regime change"
Newt: You bitchez don't like war? I'll tell you when to go to war!
Actually, I wouldn't mind having a 400 ship Navy and converting all the Army to Reservist and National Guard units.
But that might be Constitutional.
Twitter Search time:
BuddyRoemer Gov. Buddy Roemer
Should Rick Santorum and Ron Paul start throwing paper airplanes? They're totally being ignored. #NBCdebate
I believe he knows a little something about being ignored.
That's good...and bad.
Audience missing obvious neocon applause lines.
They were instructed not to applaud. I'm wondering where they got the audience, because I looked into going, and they told me that tickets weren't available to the public.
'We have an interest in peace, so we need to bomb everyone'
I hate these Republicans
I tell people like this they better be the first fucks in Iran getting riddled with AK-47 rounds.
Strait of Vermouth?
Biodome is on Starz. Pauly Shore 2012.
Yeah that's it Newt- pompous arrogant dictators like seeing a bigger pompous arrogant power. That's what makes them stand down.
We oversaw the elections. The bastard stole what he was going to win anyway.
Fighting season? Is that like deer season?
Deer Hunter? Russian Roulette for all candidates.
Finally, something that would get me to watch the debates.
"The fighting season"?
How quaint.
"I wanted to get involved in the discussion."
"Knock yourself out."
Mittens wants to stand behind our troops. A wise policy, if you don't want to get pissed on.
Romney is against drawing down troops before the end of the fighting season; it leaves them out of shape when the playoffs finally arrive.
I agree with Ron Paul on Iran completely, but I hate when he talks about Iran legitimately being angry with our actions. I don't think it plays well.
It's far easier to just assume America always wears the white cowboy hat.
I must say that it came off better than I expected. This crowd is not bloodthirsty like SC was.
My friend is tweeting from the student watch party tent outside and he said that it's VERY pro-Paul and there is a lot of cheering any time he talks
What? We committed an act of war first? Surely not.
I like Ron Paul but saying the U.S. is committing an act of war isn't going to fly well with pretty much any voter.
You mean any idiot voter who can't put things in perspectiv.....oh ....I see what you did there.
Ron says things that are proved correct 5 years later.
For better or worse he's saddled his rhetorical horse to the "if it was us..." argument.
He said America couldn't win in Iraq, and so did I. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
Hahahaha, don't the up so early.
What did we win?
What did we win?
Of course not. They prefer to be lied to.
And Paul loses the debate.
What? We committed an act of war first? Surely not.
The Strait of Hormuz issue is completely different separate from the other war issues (in that it's a proper causus belli)
Seriously, are those vampires sitting behind Williams?
(Not seriously vampires, obviously. The look more like early stage zombies.)
Vampires or fuckin' Canadian snowbirds. They are worse than vampires and drive slower
They are the presidents of the Young Republicans.
Is there anyone these three won't go to war with?
Latveria. Because it's fictional.
But it COULD become a country one day, so we better kill them all so that they won't elect islamic jihadists into power.
Canada?
Missouri?
Heaven? Isn't Saddam building nukes up there?
Nahhh, guy. It's a chocolate chip factory.
I think Santorum indicated he might go to war against Florida.
He needs to keep mentioning our financial situation when discussing foreign policy. He doesn't have to compromise his principles, just make sure to include that part each time.
He should have spoken about it in a trade sense- we buy oil from the Saudis and get along fine; why not the same with Iran? A healthy trade means less incentive for conflict.
I agree with the guy 100% but what he said was foolish given the setting.
We trade with the Saudi's? But, what about the Jihadists?
Well, to be fair he had established earlier the importance of open trade and friendly relations. I'm not sure of the attention spans of the voters, however.
Whelp, hopefully Obama wins again, and has his balls squeezed by enough peaceniks to keep this shit from getting hot. I'm getting too old to be drafted.
The Saudi's are the world's premier financiers of jihadism. We are pretending to get along because that is easy. Trade is great but not a panacea.
Then we must kill them all. That is the only answer.
We'll bomb them with flaming strawmen.
Every commercial during this debate was for NBC shows. Needy.
Their first mistake was agreeing to air the debate.
Honda and Regions Bank are NBC shows?
No wonder they're in 8th place, right?
Jersey Shore has twice the viewers, so that's where all the ads go.
I only want a car sold by an actor I am familiar with.
Broken penguin commercial? They won't stop talking about Sidney Crosby.
Republican Foriegn Policy:
"I CAN HAS MOAR VIAGRA NEOCON WAR BONER?"
That girl has a very uncomfortable smile on her face. Relax, honey.
She's experiencing her first Santorum
Adam Smith?
Has this been discussed yet? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....eline.html
"Buffett's Railroad Among Winners From Keystone Denial"
Thank god Obama struck a blow against special interests!
That's Chelsea Clinton in a dark wig. Just admit it, Williams.
Oh, his name's Adam Smith, too? That's fucking hilarious.
Do her, marry Brian Williams and kill the other guy?
What say ye?
NUKE THE WHOLE COUNTRY!!
from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
I am pro life, that's why I'm advocating the wholesale slaughter of 10 million Iranians.
I'd throw it in'er.
And now we're brining out a writer from the National Journal for our "Attack the Media" speed round.
Santorum will limit it, when the Iranians convert to Christianity.
Pakistan got a nuclear weapon and nothing changed.
The guy running the 7/11 has been a complete bastard to me ever since that day.
+ papadum
Except that Pakistan can terrorize with greater impunity and there is a heightened threat of tens of millions of people being killed here because Pakistan is insane. It's basically 'sunni Iran' to some degree...don't make our mistake. Strike first.
Iran is not just a little small country, it's a little small country with muslims in it!
The World = Israel + USA.
Someone tell Paul to just let this topic go.
Well that's why we are fighting them over there Shitorum. So our soldiers can die over there instead of us dieing over here right? You fucking shitbag.
Careful with listing "acts of war", if you catch our drift.
We faced down a giant country with thousands of nuclear weapons. Quit your fear mongering Santorum.
These people aren't the least bit embarrassed to whip up a frenzy about Iran getting "A" nuclear weapon. Disgusting.
Yeah, but now we are the soviets- poor, overextended, bogged down in Afghanistan. The only thing the Soviets didn't do was USE the nukes. guess that's his solution.
He obviously a giant pussy who pisses in terror when he thinks about muslims. What a wussy piece of traitorous shit.
Assjuice is opposed to theocracy? It's funny how as a senator he took his orders directly from the Catholic church.
She's really a dude
SHE'S AN ENVIRONUT
As a long time Pens fan and Bruins hater, I have to give it to Tim Thomas, and will be a Thomas fan forever because of this.
I just hope for Thomas' sake that the Scum-in-Chief doesn't strip his citizenship away from him, indefinitely detain him, or have him assassinated.
How many times did she practice that in front of the mirror?
I got news, Rick: you cannot stop them.
Oh wow, a spike in oil prices ruined the economy?
Oil prices are high because you talk about attacking Iran Rick.
Santorum is openly ignoring questions. I'm guessing no one will care.
Woo HOO Sarasota County!
Santorum's inner dialogue: "Why isn't this woman at home bearing children?!"
LMAO
Hmmm....that so the state of the economy has nothing to do with a devalued dollar? Burdensome taxes? Hordes of destructive bureaucrats? Once again, fuck you Shitorum. Goddamnit, I'm enraged.
That brings up an important question: Why the hell do people come to Florida? This place kinda sucks. It's hot, and humid, and nobody can drive for shit.
The coke?
Gabrielle Anwar in a bikini
Because it was sunny and about 75 today, bitchez.
82
It's 75 degrees in January?
It got up to 82 today here.
I sit corrected.
Could have been 75 where you are. That was according to the thermometer on my back porch.
Not sure how hot it was here on the Space Coast, but it was warm. I love it here, but I agree about the quality of driving.
Gabrielle Anwar needs to eat something.
She has a beautiful soul, and if she gets any skinnier you'll actually be able to see it.
Que?
What? They all support English as official language? Is that true?
Official language of the United States or of the United States government?
Rick is in it to win it, and I'm in it with him.
I think that's Jesse's Girl
Good question.
What is the common bond? Catting around, obviously.
Speak English, Bitches! Or I will use the NDAA to lock your butts in prison!
We speak AMERICAN!
Ahmadinejad is craaazy and doesn't mind dying for a cause. He just can't get his hands on a vest full of dynamite and hop a ride to the market. Once he gets his first nuke, he'll be sure to strap it to his long (124 mile) range missile and shoot it halfway towards a country with 200 nukes pointed his way!
So foreign languages are good as long as your pandering!
Does Newt have an "English first" ad in Spanish?
Gingrich denies there is any equivalence between his pandering to hispanics and his pandering to nativists.
Federalese, biotches!
Longer Newt: I would have ballots and programs... lets say other ballots.. that help them understand the ballots... like say having other ballots in their language.
FUCK THIS. THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF AMERICA IS AMERICAN.
Oh, Christ, progressive print journalist chick wants to pull out the old cliche PC bullshit questions.
McCormackJohn:
I hope Newt attacks the liberal bias of Beth Reinhard's glasses.
Romny went to a school that taught in his native language: 80x86 assembler.
And then quickly picked up the language of moisture vaporators. And Bocce.
Mitt is not the droid you're looking for.
BTW: Your live update plug-in suddenly went dark gray, making it impossible to read.
I refreshed it when it happened.
or closed the ad.
When I first opened the page, I got the ad, but it was about 15 minutes later that the area just suddenly went dark gray.
I have H&R set to show only cached images, but when I turned on all images I didn't get an ad there until I reloaded the page. (Actually, I have plug-ins such as GDFlash set not to load until I click on them, so I had to re-click on it and then close the ad again. Tough to see that there's an ad there, too, if you don't have images set to load.)
Never mind that all this and H&R is still a memory hog.
Excellent answer by Ron Paul.
I'm sure those pieces of fucking Santorum in the audience wouldn't agree.
Wow- Paul butting in!
Ha, ha.
We DREAM in English.
Holy Shit! How did Debbie Wasserman Shultz get on the panel?
Cock-sucking, of course.
I saw a documentary on the Dream Act before, it was called Inception. Very informative.
Anyone else doing the MSNBC live feed? Is it stalling out for you too?
It looks like MSNBC had to bring someone with some balls in to ask real questions.
You know, German lost by 1 vote, I think we should make German our official language, Amerika ?ber alle!
It is one of the easiest second languages for a native engish speaker to learn.
"I love the troops, except the brown ones."
Shame people into wanting to leave.
Holy shit! Adam Smith pwned Romney!
Self-deportation? Apparently border control is now a job we have to rely on illegal immigrants to afford.
Is that like self-abuse?
People will need a card to get work.
The conservative, limited govt candidate, ladies and gentlemen!
I traded up pretty good in the chicks department as a congressman, imagine the kind of poon I can score when I'm president. I already have my eye on you Katherine McPhee. Smash indeed.
That's right, if you don't get a permission slip from the Feds, you can't work in America
"Let me see your card. Yep, it says here you're illegal. I expect you to want to leave by the end of the month."
Mittbott FAIL.
Every bit of criteria that made the question about Newt's open marriage a super important one to ask is true about Rand Paul and the TSA today. I'm guessing they don't bring it up.
What a great way to deal with immigration by Santorum: fuck up our economy so bad people will want to leave!!
Illegal acts like sodomy.
Does that work for Rick? I've told women that the way they're workin' it, it should be illegal and it certainly did not work.
EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE OF AMERICAN AIR YOU'RE BREAKING A NEW LAW.
FUCK SUBSIDIES.
Now those are subsidies I can support.
Don't you dare turn my rage into laughter.
he Skipped Ron Paul on immigration
Ron Paul has answered enough questions for one debate. We might ask him about his newsletters though.
Santorum: we need to ban illegal immigration so we can have more heartwarming stories of parents abandoning their children.
Illegal immigration is a continual law breaking, eh?
omg guize. liek our leader is for the ppls and stuff. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3150217924279&set=a.2737341882636.2145888.1530035362&type=1&theater;
This bs has been making the rounds on my facebook news feed courtesy of all the morons from my liberal arts college. Arrrggh. What kind of idiot simply and smugly reissues to the propaganda issued by a candidate trying to get reelected (the pic of the janitor) as their way of offering their contribution to political discussion??
Self deportation doesn't work. Alec Baldwin never made it to Canada.
Baby, baby, baby!
Newt lost his personal battle with sugar.
I've never been more pro-sugar. Or pro-diabetes.
Sugar, do-do-do-do-doooo. Honey, honey.
When Newt is stumped, the world is stumped.
Rick Santorum has the same effect as my old preacher... Impossible to pay attention.
He has no idea how to fix an economy. Now how to tell a young girl she's going to hell for an abortion, he's all over that.
I guess they hired enough historians.
Also, FUCK NASA.
The USDA doesn't even know how many people it employs, and Archer Daniels Midland is considered a case study in corporate welfare. No coincidence.
Beets beat Bears!
Beets, bears, Battlestar Galactica!
RomneyBot just launched the "Bash Obama" program.
Moonbase!
yeah i'd cut sugar subsidiesANDLETMETALKABOUTJOBS!!!!
90 rounds of golf should be pretty darn good for the Florida economy, no?
My old roommate in ND was daughter of the Sugar Beet lobbying organization prez. Pretty god damned sick to see small farms subsidizing corporate biz.
Ron Paul cares not for your drinking water.
Floridians drink swamp water.
That explains a lot.
Only South Florida aka Northern Cuba
The Everglades, are you serious? Are you serious?
I suppose it could be a serious issue for Floridians?
A serious local issue that the President and the federal government has little power over.
Not really.
Yeah, what was that about?
I think RP did fall asleep a little before that one
Paul should have segued back into the illegal immigration side talking about reducing subsidies but reforming our immigration program, which could win him alot of Hispanic votes.
agreed, ignoring that question would have been the best response. Then make her ask it again and go "Oh, I don't really care about that shit."
Okay, who are you and what have you done with the real Ron Paul....
it's easier to say "we'll have enough fat with overseas spending" than explain why it's retarded to send money to a centralized entity only to have it given back to you sans administrative fee.
Hey! What'd I miss?
You are too a lobbyist!
Nuh, uh. You are!
I have yet to see a commercial for ER. What has NBC come to since I last tuned in?
Let the audience show emotion, already!
Were they worried they'd do another "let Ron Paul speak" deal?
I liked Brian Williams better when he was Tom Bwokaw.
I may never watch another show on NBC ever.
** squirts shit out nose **
Ugh David Gregory comparing Football to politics. I FUCKING HATE THAT COMPARISON!!!
David Gregory is cashing in on the Super Bowl.
2 Planet Fitness ads in a row.
That place sucks ass.
I'm feeling that Ron's gonna get about 20% here.
So. What am I missing?
What happened to the Cosby Show, NBC?
No! Please no. Not the Schiavo debate again.
No kidding. Because NBC doesn't think anything else is more relevant to today...
i find it amusing that other repub candidates get criticized/ridiculed for their stance on illegal immigration but not ron paul.
ron paul is about as anti-illegal immigration as the average repub
i can't recall ANY post criticizing, let alone ridiculing him for this stance
he supported the secure fence act of 2006
he has spoken against amnesty for illegal immigrants, etc
I'm pretty sure Paul isn't interested in legislation concerning building a billion dollar fence.
again, he SUPPORTED the secure fence act
i didn't say it cost a billion dollars. he's a libertarian (small l), i doubt he would support the spending of a billion dollars on many things
but again, he is strongly against illegal immigration
the interesting thing is that HE does not get criticized or ridiculed for it here AT ALL despite the fact that his stances vis a vis illegal immigration are about the same as the average repub candidate, if not more harsh in that he does not support them getting free emergency medical care, etc.
again, he is sympatico with the repub party line on illegal immigration, and far more against it, than many a repub who has supported amnesty
yet NO criticism for it here
that smacks of hero worship to me
Illegal immigration is wrong. Now the reason we have so much of it is because our immigration system is fucked but being a libertarian doesn't mean you have to be for illegal immigration.
His usual answer is he does not want to see illegal immigrants get benefits like food stamps but we should reform the system.
And he's smart enough to shut the fuck up about it until he's asked...
His stance is: first get rid of the welfare state, then immigrants can come in.
This is a stance that is shared by other libertarians as well.
The fact that libertarians can share certain views with Republicans (such as free enterprise, at least on paper) means nothing. Libertarians have never claimed they are the complete opposite of conservatives, just like they are not the complete opposite of liberals.
which entirely misses the point
he gets a free pass for it, from the same people who accuse others who are anti illegal immigration of everything from racism to xenophobia
Well when the other candidates make claims like "all illegal immigrants are violent criminals" or "we need to build a fence and electrify them as they try and climb over" or "illegals are bad but those that go to church are ok" you can imagine listening to Paul and his "we have a right to deport illegals but the real issue is the welfare state and the way we handle immigration" might be alot more damned appealing.
In partnership with the Quorum of Twelve.
Terry Shiavo? Fucking seriously????
WTF!!!
Terry SCHIAVO?!
WTF??
WTF??
One of my Canadian friends just posted this on my FB wall. It's pretty damn funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrhA0sEkuaM
Goddamnit, TERRY SHCIAVO!!!!???? I just forgot about that bullshit, and you assholes just dredged that up. FUCK.
Thanks media for reminding me why I hate you.
Santorum came down, waiting for her to die so he could play with her lifeless body.
+1
And lie in bed with it with his family.
these internets, sir. haz them.
If the United States were Terri Schiavo ....
Santorum: Whoa, whoa, whoa, why would I want congress to do anything, when an activist judge could do it?
Agreed. WTF?
How about.. do you think they're a dictate of government?
Wow, Newt. What the hell is an ordinary measure for someone condemned to die that you feel comfortable saying we give extraordinary measures?
Ron Paul, so i heard your liek a racist and shit.
Shorter Santorum: I hear people say "let's not make this a federal case" and I say, "no, let's."
Gingrich: if we're going to let prisoners rot for decades in legal limbo, dammit I want coma patients to rot for decades too!
In some circumstances your rights should be respected?
Fuck you, Titties!
Let this question die.
I shouldn't laugh...but I am.
Ron Paul: Have your shit together before you go veg.
Personal responsibility? Sounds like crazy talk to me.
'Is there a heaven for vegetables... Mr. Santorum?'
OK, that was funny.
In fairness, it was an incredibly stupid question.
Santorum has the Teri Schiavo action figure at home (w/ retractable feeding tube action).
Draw a comparison between Terri Schiavo and Ibrahim Hassan al-Asiri.
Sputnik!
It was blown out of proportion by ASSjuice butting in in the first place!
Space race!
No way to go to space without govt aid!
Hey, lady; there ain't nothing in space. No need to spend money to get there.
FUCK NASA. FUCK SPACE. FUCK FAMILIES. FUCK THE ELDERLY. FUCK EVERYONE.
Adam Smith:13 years ago a man named OJ was acquitted for murder. What does that mean for sugar production in the Florida everglades?
Romney was already pandering this way in a previous segment, so this was a good question for him
"Space coast"
They added that phrase to RomenyBot's word list last night.
I would vote for Space Ghost over three of these guys.
HEY!!
It's a Florida thing. Each coastline area has a different name. The area around Cape Canaveral and Cocoa Beach is called the Space Coast.
CB in tha house! 🙂
C'mon NBC, let's make this 2 straight debates without a single question about the debt.
NASA employees, vote for me!
"We need to cut spending by blasting it into space"
Who do you think funds the research in the Universities, Mitt?
Space Ghost?
Coast to Coast!
Romney wants to cut spending and then goes and talks about a million things to keep spending money on.
If elected, I would go back in time and abort roe v. wade.
If we can put a man on the moon, why can we not put a man in the center of the Earth?
Romney wants to turn NASA into a GSE? If he becomes President, maybe he can hook Newt up with a sweet consulting gig.
And he was talking about the "necessity" of regulating markets. The real Romney has appeared tonight, and it's not pretty.
Remember when the only fault Romney could find with Gingrich was his plan of space colonies...
There he is! Newt loves him a good public-private partnership.
Space race? What race is going on? Did I miss something?
"The last time Ron Paul's congressional district was redrawn, he ended up with NASA's Johnson Space Center as a new neighbor. A group of Houston businessmen soon invited their new congressman for a primer on the value of the space shuttle.
Paul's reply came in a note they thought was a joke. "He told them space travel isn't in the Constitution," said Patricia Gray, a former state Democratic lawmaker once nudged to challenge the Republican."
More evidence on why Ron Paul is awesome. Those fuckers at the Johnson space center should be getting paid a quarter what they currently do designing me a flying car working in the salt mines of Toyota. Get on it, bitches.
What is The Law to our dreams of zero-gravity shenanigans and crony capitalism shenanigans?
NBC is trolling the republican primary. What the hell are half these questions?
A lot of advances in aviation was the Post Office contracts subsidizing passenger travel
Romney: we shouldn't just dole out pork based on the suggestion of NASA's lobbyists. I want the full panoply of space-based rent seekers to be advocating more slop for their trough.
Why would they be drawn to Florida? Does Florida have some special properties?
From space, it looks like a big penis.
One with "Electile disfunction"
It sticks out.
Please, get with the program.
It sticks out.
Please, get with the program.
It sticks out.
Please, get with the program.
It sticks out.
Please, get with the program.
Shorter Mittens, Titties: crony capitalism + NASA = AWESOME!
Gehd your ass to mahs!
So...what will Florida look like in post-apocalyptic 'Merica? I imagine giant radioactive alligators roaming the countryside.
I think I saw that in an episode of Thundarr the Barbarian
Again a topic change after asking only Romney and Gitties
Romantic? What? Really?
Newt is planning a zero-gravity three-way.
Watching Star Trek as a young lad, the Orion Slave Girl had a profound effect on me.
Once you go green, there is no in-between.
Economix fail.
Gingrich: the current state of the space program is a severe crimp on our ability to launch a massive invasion of mars.
Ha, these questions. Are they reading DailyKos comments but in a polite tone?
"Space coast" is really more of a "space peninsula".
What's-her-name: the Bush tax cuts failed, explain.
Why don't they strap politicians in these debates to lie detectors?
Fire hazard?
i lol'd.
Those questioners were atrocious. My god.
Want me to smite 'em?
NASA is where I have trouble being a "true" libertarian. I support private space, and hope people like Branson succeed, but I can't help feeling that a lot of this stuff was made possible by stuff like the space race. If NASA had a real goal, I can't help but wonder what they would be capable of. I don't know, some people may disagree, but science is one of the least offensive areas of government when I think about spending.
Tell the outta work rocket scientists they can get jobs at Ron Jon's
i agree. and don't worry about the no true libertarian people. it's not a litmus test for libertarianism. plenty of people will say "youre not a true libertarian if you support" x. they are almost always wrong
A lot of people get weak in the knees over space. But there's nothing special about it. Most of the same benefits could have been realized if the gubment decided to build an underwater city, for example.
Building underwater cities is private sector work.
What happened, may have happened quicker, due to your being forced to pay for it ahead of the schedule by which you otherwise would have. Doesn't mean it happened better, or that it wouldn't have happened at all without NASA. Doesn't mean that it would have happened in NASA's absence, either. At least in that case, though, if it did, it would've been not just because you liked the idea of it, but rather because you'd had a compelling interest in participating financially, by one means or another.
Never underestimate rich bastards willing to throw billions of dollars into space travel. Alot of billionaire nerds now. I'd rather let them send their rockets up than keep spending billions on not sending anything but high school science projects up to the space station.
Eh, NASA was effective in its heyday because it was staffed by the best and brightest from private industry. After decades, NASA, like any bureauacracy has calcified by becoming risk averse and overburdened with pointless paper work. Most engineers "working" for NASA don't do anything vaguely like engineering. It's a sad bloated organization that's full of overpaid underworked zombies afraid to actually do something worth a damn to most people. Until we have some breakthroughs in physics, blasting bodies in to space is generally a waste of time anyway.
NASA was effective back then because unlike most govt jobs there was a built in accountability system to produce results: The Russians.
"To my fellow panelists, don't let the doorknob hit you on the asshole..."
"Explain how free markets work when they factually don't"
"I'd like to thank my fellow questioners in that segment, Ezra Klein and Markos of Daily Kos."
Nah, 'Space Coast' is a real thing, because "Titusville" sounds like a Dukes of Hazard location.
Pretty much.
After the break: The lightning round. All questions worth double money.
** pumps fist **
We will be the undocumented space aliens.
"Mr. So-and-So: As president, what would you do to ensure that the residents of This State We Happen To Be In Right Now are properly pandered to?"
Ugh, this shit sucks.
Free orange juice for everyone!
Were these questions contrived by a 7th grader?
This debate is excruciating-er than the others.
You're not onstage, Williams.
It's hard to answer a question that makes no fucking sense.
Did Brian Williams find these questions off of a Popsicle stick?
Tax Cuts, Wars, and SOUL!
Thought bubble over Mitt's head, "Oh fuck!"
Romneycare...
I've always wanted to take a debate and edit it like that old reality show, "Blind Date." Thought bubbles over their heads and whatnot.
Romney: I helped the cause of conservatism by raising a family
Gingrich: Oh yeah, well I raised three families!
Paul: I delivered 4000 families!
And a lot of Hell!
My first literal LOL of the night.
lol
Assjuice: Well I have 47 children, because the pope told me that contraception is evil.
Blah blah blah. Really bad debate.
I think once you get to the thousandth debate, you've pretty much covered every 3 times atleast so now you're down to just asking the candidates how their day was.
And enacted ObamaCare(Beta).
Romney got the book plug in.
Ouch...sounds painful
Not as painful as the Santorum plug.
And another Reagan mention. Yawn.
Who should moderate the next debate:
Stephen Wright
Emo Phillips
The socialists from Russia Today
A panel of 7th graders.
Luis CK
Michael Steele
7" grade panels.
Newt just explained how he spent his entire life in Washington.
I went to a Goldwater planning session in 1964. Huge letdown. Total sausage-fest, man.
And after that Goldwater session, Gingrich went on to work for Nelson Rockefeller.
How dare Gingrich even speak Goldwater's name.
"I sucked Lincoln's dick in 1864"
Santorum keeps talking about "gaps"
"huge, HUGE" gaps.
Classic Santorum. Ensuring Paul doesnt get to answer his question because he says things that require Newt and Mitt to reply.
"Well I would say, Brian STFU about other candidates and ask me about me."
Yes, Santorum, do the only thing you do well, attack Mittens and Newcular Titties. Don't fucking stop. Give it to 'em good and hard. Don't forget to call them names and call them whores.
Fuck.
*pull their hair and call them whores.
That's the only time I like Santorum.
Santorum: It's going to be hard to stand.
Santorum is right, except when he says that he's the conservative.
Does "creating a contrast with Obama" count as a racist dogwhistle?
Everything counts as a racist dog whistle.
Oh, did you guys glance at that article too? I'm no Republican, but MAN, that was a strange one.
I think Santorum just endorsed Paul.
Very solid answer from Paul.
Agreed. I think overall he's been great tonight.
None of the others are real conservatives. RP needs to hammer that.
Yeah, that was pretty passionate and crisp and bad-ass.
Paul WIN
Consti-whatsit?
Don't worry about it. It's a living document.
Ron: why don't we just follow the fucking constitution???
Win!
Because we are hypocritical pants-wetting fucks.
Romney's record: Donnie Osmond's greatest hits
+100
Romney repeal Obamacare? Yeah fucking right.
"I almost make him homeless ha ha ha!"
Mitt Bott humor sequence fail.
ANyone who believes that Romney would repeal Obamacare is an absolute idiot.
Yep, but TEAM RED doesn't really care. They just want their guy in charge.
"I bet Ted Kennedy $10,000 he couldn't beat me."
That sorry spectacle should have cost both of those assholes severely. I still can't believe how it just blew over.
"What is your favorite passage in the Constitution? Quote it verbatim and explain why in detail."
Uh.. um.. something about general welfare and commerce.
But that would be a question of relevance, and they just can't have any of that shit.
God damn these questions can not get anymore inane.
Holy Shit man!!
There are many reasons were are screwed. This is reason #12,456.
There are many reasons were are screwed. This is reason #12,456.
It's not, actually. The questions reflect premises, assumptions and givens that ultimately are the whole root of the problem.
Starting with the idea -- implicit in nearly every question -- that a president is supposed to have so much power/sway/influence in the first place.
(To be clear: What I mean by "it's not" is that it's not way down the list at #12,456.)
Gingrich asks people to be with him. Particularly his secretaries.
Shorter Rick & Titties: "Be afraid. Be very afraid. Vote for me."
If anyone is looking for any terrible ill-fitting clothes or old man jokes to tell, a Twitter search for "Ron Paul" should take care of you.
There are many reasons were are screwed. This is reason #132,756.
So we are or aren't a great nation?
We are, but we aren't, apparently.
RomneyBot's debate strategy seems to consist of targeting one sentence at the asked question, and then talk about whatever he wants.
I figured out the order of questions: Romney - Newt - Romney - Newt - Santorum - Romney - Newt - Santorum - Romney - Newt - Santorum - Paul - Romney - Newt - Romney...
"Why are low home house prices a bad thing?"
"Wait, this amateur hour we're having is a dress rehearsal, right? We're actually debating live? Shit!"
Crack down on cheaters, I think he is looking at you Gingrich.
classic propaganda technique, newt: elevate your enemies. i believe sun tzu was the first to note this.
Brian Williams just won the Florida primary.
What I would do is have the federal government buy Michigan and California, load them up with debt, and then sell them off to Mexico and Canada. It's called destructive creationism.
What a waste of time, insubstantive debate. Brian Williams and the other 2 were terrible.
SUCKY DEBATE.
NBC wants Gingrich to be the nominee?
There is that granddaughter again, do we know her name yet?
whose?
I like Linda Paul. She seems like a cool chick to hang with. There is a short video of her giving an interview.
http://nashua.patch.com/articl.....eo-8750699"
I'll say that the first row of the audience behind Williams was the biggest bunch of douchebags I have ever seen.
Bigger than the ones on stage?
Yes, even if only because the look on their faces said "It will be me on that stage in 25 or 30 years debating on why I should rule the peons."
What do you wanna bet NBC includes RPs question on the everglades in their review here?
With Andrea Mitchell on the panel, I doubt they will show Paul's critique of the Federal Reserve.
Peter, the personalities thank you too.
Titties, Mittens. What does it all mean?
Titty-Mittens?!
I liked this Andrea Mitchell lady better in the Dark Crystal.
What the fuck is she wearing?
+1
I think Paul's last answer was one of his best answers I've seen out of any of his debate performances.
Paul knows his shit about constitution but 99% of the time the debates don't want to talk about that. I mean, that's like ancient history.
Yep, that shit doesn't sell like Invade Cuba!
petersuderman:
Thank you to the Multiple Internet Personalities who left 788 comments on tonight's debate blog post.
But yet they don't quote any of us in tweetblog.
It's basically impossible. You've got the TV, you've got the Twitter stream (that you're typing on) ... and then you've got the squirrels.
that's what interns are for!
I quoted you, sir.
I only left one.
One major reason they love talking about Gingrich and Romney is that they never have to deal with actual issues or positions on issues. They can just deal with the soap opera stuff.
"Political flirtation between Gingrich and Paul."
I almost vomited.
That makes me shudder.
Why does that make me think of HeyZeus being tempted by Satan in the desert?
Weird, the GOP Dem-hate-boner for Gingrich in SC made me think of him as Barabbas. Not a good sign that I'm getting into messianic modes of thought.
VW playing the 'Nuge? WTF?
Stranglehold baby. gets may attention everytime.
So, NBC's post-debate panel was struck by this new "flirtation" between Gingrich and Paul, as evidenced by Newt's overtures to Paul on the Fed, etc.
Whether or not that emerges as one of the news-cycle memes, it certainly seems clear that all the candidates are now aware they can't be dismissive of Paul or his base.
True, but how many Paul supporters would vote for one of these assholes? I'm voting LP if Paul doesn't get the nomination, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Yeah. No matter how I vote, I would like to see Ron Paul as the GOP candidate, and Gary Johnson as the Libertarian candidate, to up the odds. Good luck with that though.
There is a loose money crank that is running against Johnson whose sense of arrogance and entitlement is stratospheric. If he gets it (can't recall the name), then I'm not even bothering to vote. Paul > Johnson > nobody.
Is it Lee Wrights?
Yo tambien.
I like d Romney's line about how he "wouldn't trust a politician who paid more taxes than he owes," or something to that effect. It's important to remember taxes aren't patriotic, they're a necessary evil, no more, no less. Anyone who's glad to pay taxes and wants to pay more is an idiot. They made Romney's tax situation controversial, while I actually liked his answer on taxes the most out of Romney's time in the debate.
I like d Romney's line about how he "wouldn't trust a politician who paid more taxes than he owes, It's important to remember taxes aren't patriotic, they're a necessary evil, no more, no less. Anyone who's glad to pay taxes and wants to pay more is an idiot.
I doubt he'd disagree with you there, but I don't think that was his actual point. He was merely trying to say, "Anybody who's too disorganized to file their taxes accurately is obviously too incompetent to be president."
I think he kind of mangled what he was trying to say, so it didn't quite come out right.
Oh, maybe I misunderstood his point then. I thought he was making a moral point about paying more than you owe, but the disorganization thing makes sense.
^this. Personally, as an aside, I actually like Romney, but I would never vote for him. Unless it was for a second term where he proved to be a closet libertarian who substantially changed the direction of the country. But that is indulging in wishful thinking based on the odds being in his favor at the moment that he is going to be president, and I'm hoping something good comes out of this clusterfuck.
I completely agree with this sentiment. He's a very lovable robot, and doesn't have any positions that make me cringe. I'll still never vote for him because I see no point in allowing the Republicans to nominate someone who will so obviously not rock the boat. Now's not the time for status quo politics.
Nobody in the world wants to personally pay a dime more in taxes than they owe. Not even the lefty shitheads who love to sanctimoniously pretend that they do.
This is nice and all, but he had $45 million in capital gains and paid 15% in capital gains taxes.
This year, if someone has $60,000 in income (single, self-employed, standard deduction), he'll pay around $9,000 in federal taxes, another $9,000 in FICA/OASDI (and, let's face it, a lot of that ain't coming back) and let's say $3,500 in state taxes (California). That's about 35%. If you start looking at utility of income -- subtracting out basic costs of living and using the result as the denominator -- it's clearly a greater burden on the middle income earner. And most of that is pure cost; you're not receiving much from government, either.
I'm cool with Mitt's rate being at 15%. It could be 0% for all I care. What I, and I suspect many others, are not cool with is that the government grants preferential tax treatment to eight-figure capital gains over a five-figure salary, and he's not really supporting, say, at least a revenue-neutral re-weighting of the tax code by treating capital gains (inflation-indexed, even) and earned income similarly.
Corporations have to value their assets by "mark to market" on a regular basis. That could work for cap gains. Declare your unrealized gains quarterly - defer taxes until they are fully realized.
Win-win for the trading industry, tax attorneys, accountants, auditors... Just think of the jobs created!
Way to throw California tax in there on the middle class guy, but not on Mitt!
In California, Mitt's capital gains tax would be 10.3%, raising his total over 25%.
Probably because Romney's not paying it.
California's income tax rates are actually average until you start nearing six figures. The capital gains taxes there are IIRC the highest in the nation. By contrast Massachusetts' tax is middling (5.3%) and I don't believe New Hampshire has one.
Corporations have to value their assets by "mark to market" on a regular basis.
This depends on the type of asset. For short-term instruments it's true and for hard-to-value things you are required to "mark to model," but there's a reason book value and market cap rarely equal.
I never cared for Mitt until he started getting attacked for being a capitalist (by the GOP candidates no less, ugh). I never knew he was Gorden Geiko, that's pretty awesome. It's typical that I admire that which the establisment distains.
Holy shit, the room emptied out like they were about to show NBC programming.
Really, Brian Williams? I thought you were a legit indie music guy. You went with Peter Bjorn & John from like 6 years ago for this segment?
Now, The Kooks?
Funny how they placed this female reporter just two doors down in the hotel from Gingrich. They really tried to get her embedded.
Future Ex-Mrs. Gingrich.
goodnight y'all
tu ne cede malis
sed contra audentior ito
g'night
Local News (Lexington, KY) lead-in: "Would you refuse a pat down from an airport security official? A KY US Senator did."
It's like haiku - 500+ comments and not one more than three sentences.
Oscar Noms come out in a few hours.
Any bets?
That none of them will be worthy, and that all of it will be politically motivated.
My butt hurts and the world is against me but I'm too douchey to wear black lipstick and eyeliner.
I think having the restraint to not wear black lipstick and eyeliner would reduce the douche quotient. You know what raises it? Trolling people you think are butthurt and irrelevant. Get a fucking life.
That it will be one of the questions at the next debate.
"Explain why, given that they are the future of this great nation, children are not allowed to vote."
Senator Santorum, recently the Iranian movie "A Seperation" was nominated for an Oscar for Best Foreign Film. Do you feel the governent should be concerned about the spread of Iranian culture to Hollywood?
That I forgot to see at least 80 percent of said movies!
Sure Ron Paul, the banks did no wrong. Let them do whatever they want.
Ron PauL: The government made them do it! If they were just free to do whatever they wanted they would be responsible! Pinkie swear!
There ought to be a way to put those banks out of business, but Paul doesn't have the guts to suggest any method of doing this!
Well perhaps you're not familiar with the pressure banks received to expand their lending businesses to riskier pools.
I suggest this gem from Thomas Sowell.
the current crop of GOP candidates are trying to compete one another for saying the most stupid thing possible.
Similar to your posts on this message board.
Run, Mitch, Run!
Great that Ron Paul calls for the government to stay out of our personal lives, though I'm puzzled as to why my uterus would be excluded
Abortion thread is that way, honey.
I'm puzzled why you think a President Paul can do anything about the abortion laws.
Your uterus is not excluded, but if want a certain procedure you might have to truck it to New York, California, Canada, Mexico, or fall down the stairs a couple of times. It's not perfect, but its better than this constant bickering over bullshit that's irrelevant compared to more daunting problems. Moreover, I second BeeTag's question.
if *you* want
Thanks, Politico. From their 6 Takeaways
5) Ron Paul was playing for laughs
Or something. But Paul, who has had moments of rather serious policy discourse during some of the past debates, did little in this one to stand out.
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....71868.html
I get the impression that they think someone else discussed something of substance last night.
This has been the official meme for all political analysts since the start of the new year. At least a few of them note that Paul's failure to "stand out" is not his fault, but due to the moderators ignoring him.
Wow. Just. Wow.