GOP Foreign Policy #IHateCNN Debate Open Thread

If it's anything like the National Anthem, it will be excruciating.

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[Evan from Evansville]

I want to die.

[Evan from Evansville]

I'm two minutes into this and I want to die.

Must we really sing the Nat'l Anthem at a political debate? And I also don't want to hear that shit before baseball, either. God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch? Please. This country needs to stop jacking everything up to 11.

"There's a jet stream of bullshit coming out of your mouth!"

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

. This country needs to stop jacking everything up to 9/11.

FIFY

[Evan from Evansville]

BOOM sloopy. BOOM.

Everyone out there reading this? THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT.

Co-OPT that shit.

Sloops. SunnyVale Trailer Park straight the fuck up. Represent.

[MCab]

Dolla dolla bill, ya'll.

[Dylboz]

S'up, J-Roc?

[Swede]

You made me shoot beer out of my nose! damn You!

[Aresen]

I'm sure Michelle Bachmann would pass a law against shooting beer out of your nose.

(Probably most of the rest of the GOP field would do so as well.)

[Swede]

I would let her enforce it...

[Kolohe]

Nah, shooting is one of the things Republicans like.

[Paul]

Sloops... Respect.

[bill]

we are doomed

[bomb everyone]

Really hope Ron Paul brings up his military personnel donations when the others start attacking him.

[bill]

CNN is wasting a lot of time before they start this thing

[bill]

oh shit patriot act question

[Bee Tagger]

Sugar and now terrorists, what does Wilfred Brimley think I shouldn't be afraid of?

[bomb everyone]

Translation: Fuck the bill of rights!

[Evan from Evansville]

How can I acquire one of these elusive White Old Hair Helmets? Think Lesley Nielson, Newty-boy, Steve Martin, etc.

I want one. Is the mother's father thing true? If so...I like my odds.

[MCab]

@34, I've still got a solid mop on top, in spite of my mom's dad being bald around this time.

[bill]

nice paul

[Fist of Etiquette]

Yay for McVeigh?

[Evan from Evansville]

Timmy McVeigh?!

WTF. Brain exploded.

[bomb everyone]

YES! Camera in every house!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Newt's crazy old uncle is going off again.

[Bee Tagger]

Oooo, a law that mandates we stop all crimes. I like it.

[bomb everyone]

Bachmann: "I'm for the Constitution, but I'm not."

[PantsFan]

I don't have enough Crown Royal for this.

[Bee Tagger]

That phone call at 2am in the White House is going to be vibrating on the night stand these days.

[bill]

Technology renders freedom untenable!!!

[Fist of Etiquette]

The ACLU is waterboarding are terrorists?

[Fist of Etiquette]

It looks like the NSA intercepted some of my words there.

[wareagle]

apparently, they are the only agency that can do it in an acceptable manner.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Shout out for Ridge.

[Bee Tagger]

Huntsman just lost the PA vote.

[Fist of Etiquette]

And the colorblind vote.

[rather]

Newt weants a police state with a cop in every bedroom -shit, I'm voting for him 😉

[Evan from Evansville]

I love how they act like they're talking TO the other candidates. What the fuck could they possibly be thinking (standard disclaimer, etc)? Smoldering hate-fucks? Vindictive anger?

I need NutraSweet to....help me out here.

[Gojira]

Just from the comments, I'm glad I'm still at work and cannot take in the horrors.

[poetry]

i prefer to read these as they go, and watch the debate afterward, see if it matches my imagination

[Gojira]

That's actually a great idea. I'm going to call and have the wife record it.

[nicole]

I normally do that too. It's "fun."

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

I call bullshit. You don't have a spouse to hit record.

[nicole]

You can verify via some other debate thread that I am the recorder, because my bf works late.

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

I was just being a dick.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Rick Perry: Union Buster.

[A Serious Man]

I sense Mitt Romney has a strong personal antipathy towards Ron Paul the way the rich kid might be resentful of a poorer kid being more popular than him.

[Gojira]

Is this going to turn into The Count of Monte Cristo?

[peachy]

If that scenario results in Perry blowing his head off, Romney going apeshit nuts, and Newt slinking away to live in poverty while Ron rides off into the sunset mega-rich with a hot younger chick... then I'm all in favour. (And, spoilers, I guess.)

[Aresen]

You guys watch this for me.

I'll be over at #hotchicks2nite

[Paul]

I think you've been responding to me. I'm sexxyinseattle321.

Now I need a rape shower.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Rick Perry: Obama doesn't spend enough.

[rather]

Perry and Romney are next to each other; five bucks says Perry is going to alpha touch him first

[Fist of Etiquette]

Rick Santorum: Brown is da bomb!

[Bee Tagger]

Fantastic, Santorum just said a president "ran over civil rights" in a glowing way.

[Swede]

yeah, that was seriously troubling. thank goodness he has such small support.

[John Thacker]

However, what he said does have a lot of truth:

Lincoln did run over civil rights.

However, if you point that out, you're assumed to be a pro-slavery neoConfederate racist. Because everyone assumes that running over civil rights is BAD. But that Lincoln was unalloyed GOOD.

Trust Santorum to turn that around. He's quite intelligent and a sound, logical reasoner. Willing to follow logic to some bizarre areas based on a few questionable principles, of course.

[Another Phil]

Lincoln did run over civil rights.

However, if you point that out, you're assumed to be a pro-slavery neoConfederate racist. Because everyone assumes that running over civil rights is BAD. But that Lincoln was unalloyed GOOD.

Yeah, you're a lone beacon of sanity. Poor guy.

Trust Santorum to turn that around. He's quite intelligent and a sound, logical reasoner. Willing to follow logic to some bizarre areas based on a few questionable principles, of course.

When you find yourself worrying that moral commandments are all that's standing between us and widespread bestiality, I think it's time to check your premises.

[Evan from Evansville]

WE ARE NOT AT WAR.

OOOh. I love it when I froth like this.

[Frank Zappa]

Cite me when you quote me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc

[Fist of Etiquette]

"Huntsman has made some good points and I've disagreed with them."

[nicole]

Wish Paul would get to respond to Romney's war vs. crime distinction with stats on how many people have been surveilled under PATRIOT Act for drugs vs. terrorism.

[poetry]

even if he got the chance, it's not the kind of thing he would say

he's an idea guy, not a stats guy

[nicole]

I know...and he just responded with ideas. Which was okay, but he really could have slammed Romney on that.

[Gojira]

Oh sweet innocent Nicole, don't you know that we're fighting a WAR on drugs? Also, drug purchases help the terrorists by funneling them money somehow, and reducing our future solider population into a bunch of worthless addicts. Using the PATRIOT act on pot-heads is thus completely rational and defendable.

[Field Marshall Gill]

Actually, Jim, it is. I bought a bag just today, and you know what? Yep, there was an Islamic Crescent on it! I had to face toward Mecca and say 5 Allah Akbars before I could get it!

Then, they wanted me to convert to Islam! Of course, I did. What was I supposed to do, go without?!

[bill]

Please God, strike down Santorum

[Just Dropping By]

If you strike him down, he'll come back more frothy than you can possibly imagine.

[Fist of Etiquette]

At least they'll never have to profile Cain's cabinet.

[rather]

Muslins need to fly naked?

[WWNGD?]

Do a search for Penn's (of Penn and Teller) "Bacon and a kiss" idea.

[Tyler]

Saw that on Red Eye. Fucking hilarious.

[wareagle]

did Wolf just ask who would be profiled? I nominate blond, scandinavian women, preferably 5-6 and taller; that is the screening criteria. Further evaluation will take place away from teh crowds.

if you want airline safety, let the airlines be responsible for that.

[bill]

Cain shouldn't even show up for these things

[WWNGD?]

Racist! Besides, he brings the pizza. They would have beer but Romney doesn't approve.

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

rather |11.22.11 @ 8:20PM|#|show direct|ignore
Newt weants a police state with a cop in every bedroom -shit, I'm voting for him 😉

It'll certainly increase your chances of getting laid, rectal.

[dunphy]

not if it's THIS cop. i'd have to request hazardous duty pay.

[tarran]

Dunphy, this is why I question your libertarian bona-fides. There seems to be no order from your superiors that you would quit rather than enforce. 😉

[bomb everyone]

My god is this painful. Muslims are going to kill you! Give up all your rights!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Kill or identify, whichever is easier.

[Bee Tagger]

DID HE JUST CALL HIM BLITZ. PLEASE SAY HE DID.

[Bee Tagger]

TWICE, OMG

[bill]

Cain is trying not to say 999

[Gojira]

He can sneak it in by railing about "NINE eleven NINE eleven NINE eleven".

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Blitzmeister.

[Matt Welch]

KAGAAAAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!!!

[Bee Tagger]

Thank you, Todd Barry impersonator, good question.

[LilDebbie]

oh god i don't know what's more painful the blatant racism, hearing ron paul remind us that the president can now assassinate u.s. citizens and wolf immediately changing the subject, or fucking "blitz"?

and drugs are illegal? they should be MANDATORY.

[Bee Tagger]

What's more than existential? Who cares, what's the point.

[LilDebbie]

"more than an existential threat"

is this real? am i dreaming?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Was Blitzer giving her an "answer my question" look?

[bomb everyone]

Here's a good idea for Pakistan- GET OUT.

[Evan from Evansville]

What do they do if they have to take a piss? Do they have piss jars like my Gpa used when he was driving to Florida?

[Fist of Etiquette]

It's a little early for flop sweat, Rick.

[Evan from Evansville]

What do they do if they have to take a piss? Do they have piss jars like my Gpa used when he was driving to Florida?

[Bee Tagger]

Yeah, nothing says trustworthiness more than a nation telling you that they care more about your best interests than their own.

[Fist of Etiquette]

WHY WON'T THEY ASK ROMNEY ANY QUESTIONS? It's unfair!

[Banjos]

When you're a dick, everything looks like a vagina.

[Swede]

Bachmann actually just gave a serious and well thought answer regarding Pakistan and there stared down Perry as he said another dumb thing. Where has this bachmann been lately?

[SIV]

Praying Romney turns gay?

[John Thacker]

What she said sounded kind of dumb-- "Pakistan is a bunch of liars who can't be trusted, but we can't afford to shut off aid"-- but of course that's our actual policy towards Pakistan, so it's not like the DC establishment (of both sides) can laugh at her for it.

[Swede]

You left out the important point there, john Thacker. The aid is for intelligence sharing. we need influence there and use what tools we have to do the "detective work" needed to stop threats before they arise. so no, john, she was correct on that one issue.

[Swede]

Just like santorum is making a good point about foreign aid through humanitarian aid. bachmann and santorum are morons, but they have each had a solid point tonight.

[John Thacker]

I didn't disagree with her, and I agree that is our policy and the point for it.

I just meant that it instinctively sounds dumb, so people would like to make fun of it (because they like to make fun of her), but it's actually such an establishment response that they won't.

Sorry I wasn't more clear.

[Swede]

I see what you mean. Thanks for the clarification.

[SIV]

Where do the Taliban and the haqqani network get their funding?

If they had to rely on opium taxes I doubt we'd be fielding 100k + in forces. Paying your enemy to fight you is as stupid as it gets.

[bill]

it scares me that people believe these people know what their talking about.

[wareagle]

on the other hand, there is Obama who has, thus far, participated in ushering in sharia law in Egypt and Libya, and as Paul points out, set the precedent for killing Americans. The Repubs may sound out there, but POTUS actively works against US interests.

[John Thacker]

To put it another way, as while the GOP is debating about whether people should have due process, Obama has already decided against it.

[Fluffy Got Demoted]

There aren't even any Mubarak deadenders left in Egypt, but wareagle still carries the torch.

Next up for wareagle: Sukarno Nostalgia.

[wareagle]

thanks for missing the point. Sharia for everyone.

[Bee Tagger]

Pakistan and India are right over Perry's left shoulder, if I'm to take his wild thumb gesturing seriously (which I do).

[Jerry]

Let's call it a racket the money spend on Pakistan, okay Michele.

[Bee Tagger]

Romney really seems committed to this "just out of the pool filled with chlorine" look.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Spend the 'stans into modernity.

[Bee Tagger]

Keepin' Up With The 'Stanses

[bomb everyone]

Haven't we been in a gradual trasition for ten years now? And isn't it just getting worse and worse each month?

[rather]

"...we are at 12%"
-Romney wants the Pakistani vote

[Evan from Evansville]

We haven't done a good job articulating how we can help Afghans! This time, we're gonna do it right! Which...we've been saying for 10 years.

Hooozah!

[Evan from Evansville]

Christ. Cut and run after 10 years?

Everything is terrible.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Were you listening to the Dude's story, Mitt?

[nicole]

Did Romney seriously just say we couldn't "cut and run"? I don't think I've heard that one in years...

[Fist of Etiquette]

Not wasting more lives in Afghanistan would waste the previous lives we've wasted.

[Paul]

Afghanistan is the solyndra of foreign policy...

[Bee Tagger]

Appeal to authority, the Republican crowd eats it up.

[LilDebbie]

wow huntsman *rowr*

[rather]

Did Wolf just yell "pull out" to Newt ?

[Fist of Etiquette]

It's responses all the way down.

[bomb everyone]

The CNN Mitt Romney and Some Other People Debate

[A Serious Man]

Ron Paul can't believe how stupid the people surrounding him are while Romney can't believe he isn't being allowed to deliver a two hour monologue.

[Amerifuntimes]

That's an incredibly accurate summation of what is going on with this debate.

[Gojira]

OT: After shouting down a speech he was giving, weirdo leftist occutard manages to get close enough to Obama to shove a note into his hand, with some kind of leftist screed.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ti.....29558.html

[Fist of Etiquette]

Same thing happened at the end of the second season of 24. David Palmer ended up poisoned. Not so implausible now, is it, TV critics?

[Bee Tagger]

So does that mean that the media will agree to never discuss it again?

[pmp]

occutard really ought to be the Word of the Year.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Blitzer called Gingrich's bluff. He's got nothing to say.

[Amerifuntimes]

Newt: Warshington

[John Thacker]

That's the way Virginians from the Tidewater area pronounce it, including old DC residents. (Includes my Dad.)

Though I suppose that proves that Newt's been in DC too long, he talks like a native.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

They pronounce it that way in East Central Indiana, too. Also, push is "poosh" and (motor)cycle is "sickle".

[pmp]

Which Mormon would you rather eff? I think Mitt Romney is what Stan Smith from American Dad! would look like if he was a real dude?!?

[Amerifuntimes]

Newt: I Prefer Fancy Feast

[Bee Tagger]

This time, it's for realz

[A Serious Man]

"I'm happy to play by the rules if I just knew what they are" explains Newt's failure at marriage I guess.

[Bee Tagger]

+1

[bomb everyone]

So why does Pakistan merit any less sovereignty than us?

[Gojira]

Are you serious? First off, they aren't AMERICA, so they aren't exceptional. Secondly, they're brown, which means they steal jobs. Third, their religion is not actually a religion but rather a "death cult" which is attempting to enslave white women into the Global Caliphate.

They should be praying to their smelly wrong god every day that we allow them any sovereignty at all.

/repub candidate and/or voter

[Cytotoxic]

They're not a free nation and they host terrorists.

[Uncle Joe]

Are you talking about Pakistan or America now?

[Cytotoxic]

Pakistan obviously.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"I agree with Ron Paul about the evil that is Islam!"

[Jerry]

That made Paul frown a bit.

[Rick Santorum]

Also, those terrorists told me they think you guys look like dorks!

[bomb everyone]

Fuck you Blitz. Mitt gets 6 responses to one question and Paul is left waving his hand after being compared to terrorist clerics.

[Amerifuntimes]

This music is lolzy

[Bee Tagger]

Nice, CNN is showing us questions that won't be asked so we can all imagine how horribly each candidate would answer them.

[rac]

As with all candidates, everything they say is virtually meaningless. Code words. That's all.

[A Serious Man]

Well as much as I would love to continue to watch this clusterfuck, I am ironically off to my college's Youth for Ron Paul meeting.

I'll use this thread and my imagination to picture the wackiness that ensues.

[ola]

someone should remind that bachmann chick that with all the patriot act/tsa apparatus, the knob on the Detroit flight was stopped by the individuals on the plane. Same with the times square guy. frickin idiot. newt is a fat pig. maybe back in 1957 when he decided to commit his life to the preservation of the U.S. he should have joined the marine corp. he wouldn't be a fat pig now.

[Bee Tagger]

Riveting, CNN.

[Fist of Etiquette]

CNN crashing to the ground.

[Amerifuntimes]

Nice job CNN

[Fist of Etiquette]

"Oh, I heard the question, I just didn't get it."

[Bee Tagger]

Cain, Israel won't be nuking indiscriminately on my watch.

[Amerifuntimes]

Mountainous region

[Amerifuntimes]

I wish he had made motions in front of his chest saying that

[Bee Tagger]

+1

[Swede]

More beer just shot out of my nose. Thanks for wasting my four peaks IPA amerifuntimes!

[ola]

blitz should ask cain if iran attacked turkey from the rear, would greece help out. cain would give a serious answer.

[Cytotoxic]

+1

[poetry]

ahaahahhhahahaa

[Fist of Etiquette]

You never expect the Israeli Inquisition.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Well, it's Israel's business, and the business of whoever is on the business end of the bombing.

[Evan from Evansville]

Cain's look is PRICELESS.

[Bee Tagger]

Herman Cain loves it when a good plan comes together.

[bomb everyone]

Why the fuck does cain get a response?

[Amerifuntimes]

Ron Paul, why you so not good at public speaking.

[LilDebbie]

back pedal faster, herman. paul is in da house.

[veemee sashimi]

Paul says Israel can do what it wants and doesn't need nor should get our help.

[Fist of Etiquette]

All our sanctions? Including the "ka-boom" sanction?

[Rick Perry]

words uhh, country name uhh, America uhh...

[gaijin]

we're serious Iran! sheesh.

[pmp]

What the hell does it even mean to "sanction a central bank?"

[Coeus]

wondering that myself. Never heard of it before.

[LilDebbie]

fuck it. i'm voting for perry. our enemies will be absolutely *terrified* by that man.

[gaijin]

We should legislate a reduction in gravity in the US so that we can tell the europeans they can have iranian oil.

[Jerry]

LOL, Blitzer to Gingrich: "I know you have studied this..."

[bomb everyone]

Newt Plan: Multiply our oil output 12 fold in ten months.

[Bee Tagger]

Can you imagine a Gingrich/Obama debate? I'm convinced they'll ask the moderator to leave and begin asking themselves their own question.

[Amerifuntimes]

National security debates are such a farcical propaganda show. It's not like the American people know jack shit about what's going on in Pakistan or Iran. They don't even know what the media is saying about what's going on in Pakistan or Iran.

[Evan from Evansville]

Appeasement?! DAMMIT.

[Coeus]

"he'll use it on the United States of America." - Bachmann

Yeah, that camel based delivery system they have is unstoppable.

[Bee Tagger]

I can't wait for Cain to call this guy Wolf Blitzowitz

[Amerifuntimes]

Bachman's pretty sassy tonight.

[swede]

for once she knows something they are talking about.

[bomb everyone]

Santorum: "Africa is a country on the brink."

[gaijin]

Santorum: Malaria and aids causes Al Qaeda.

[Banjos]

SANCTION AND BOMB MALARIA!!!!11

[Amerifuntimes]

Did Santorum just call Africa a country?

[nicole]

Yes. Yes he did.

[pmp]

M. Bachmann is so whiny. I'd like to give her something to whine about.

[Coeus]

"Promote out values"

What is this "our" shit?

[Bender Bending Rodriguez]

Did Santorum just refer to Africa as a "country on the brink"?

[bomb everyone]

It's all black people, so its really just one big country.

[Bee Tagger]

Holy crap, Santorum literally thinks the USA is the shining city on the hill. And he's not even ashamed to say it in front of millions of people.

[John Thacker]

Presumably it's part of the Reagan nostalgia.

That said, it's not like saying that ever hurts in American politics.

[Britt]

I mean, it is. Things suck here in a lot of ways from a liberty stand point, but I can't think of a country that's better. Or that has a chance, however slim it may be, of turning things around.

The depressing part of this is trying to explain to (usually) Republican voters that being more free then China or Russia is not something to brag about, but rather a minimum standard.

[affenkopf]

Switzerland, Singapore, Hong Kong

[Uncle Joe]

When giving all types of liberty equal weight, the U.S. is number 6. Which means there are five countries that are better than the U.S. (Switzerland, Hong Kong, Chile, Canada, Australia)

When giving weight to specific liberties, you'd have to calculate things in America's favor to make America the best.

http://www.freeexistence.org/freedom.shtml

[rather]

Hmm, Canada was first and the US 12 but I've lived in both, and prefer the US

[pmp]

Africa could have a melt-down...?

whoa, I wonder what that would look like?

[veemee sashimi]

I know I'm glad to see Paul Wolfowitz contribute to this nonsense.

Shouldn't we at least have some sort of non-interventionist option with one of the two parties?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Just like a angsty teenage girl, Ron Paul is a cutter.

[Amerifuntimes]

He looks like one too.

[Coeus]

You da man, Paul. You da man.

[bomb everyone]

Wow, mitt looks PISSED

[Fist of Etiquette]

EYE ROLL RESPONSE.

[veemee sashimi]

Paul delivers the smackdown to Mittens.

[Fist of Etiquette]

They're cutting defense contracts!

[pmp]

Mittens looked genuinely pissed off at Mistah RON MOTHA-FUCKIN PAUL!!!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Is this audience populated solely with Heritage Foundation?

[gaijin]

well there are at leasst three amer enterprise institute-ers 😉

[bomb everyone]

Yeah, Newt. European missle shields should be on the same time frame as new ipod versions.

[Bee Tagger]

Look, GOPers, I get how the Newt that was making a mockery of the debate formats on MSNBC seemed really awesome. But if this little crush lasts longer than a week or two more, what the hell is wrong with you?

[John Thacker]

You how people sometimes look for someone entirely unlike their ex or previous crush? Cain and Perry seemed like they didn't know any details and suck at debating, so... Gingrich.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Newt Gingrich: America is a frivolous little girl.

[Coeus]

We do spend like a teenage girl with daddy's credit card.

[Newt]

and I would like to introduce her to my principles

[Jerry]

Didn't the aid to Africa to fight malaria all go to drug companies?

[Bee Tagger]

Pretty fancy false choice, Newt.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Newt Gingrich: Israel cannot be trusted to become a nuclear power.

[Bee Tagger]

I see why the media loves Huntsman. He loves to romanticize authority.

[Amerifuntimes]

President Huntsman: 2014 Trust Fall Budget Over-Budget Once Again

[Fist of Etiquette]

"I know it was you, Afghanistan. You broke my heart."

[dunphy]

^win

[Coeus]

These guys are really starting to pay regular lip service to Paul. They're disengenous as fuck, but it's nice to see.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Speaking of super failure, that line.

[gaijin]

500 million = half a trillion. Perry math.

[bomb everyone]

I don't even know what the hell Perry was just talking about.

[Coeus]

Neither does he.

[veemee sashimi]

Perry stringing unrelated phrases and concepts together

[Fist of Etiquette]

Resign in protest or be tried for treason!

[Coeus]

Perry appeals to emotion: film at 11.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Perry's 20-20-20 plan.

[Amerifuntimes]

Can we all just be honest with ourselves and say that Perry is only a governor and only on this stage right now because he's handsome? Sad but true.

[Kolohe]

But it is a really *really* handsome level of handsome (NTTAWWT)

[Amerifuntimes]

That's amazing.

[Rick Perry]

I like a nice Ranch Dressing with my word salad.

[Bee Tagger]

Good one, Rick. You're from Texas and you said Ranch dressing.

[Rick Perry]

I did? I honestly don't remember.

[Herman Cain]

I remember the words you said- I just don't know what they meant. I'm a leader, not a reader dammit!

[?]

This is like the worst chat room ever.

[Bee Tagger]

Yeah, what was CNN thinking?

[sage]

Michelle Bachmann looks like a clown.

[Michelle Bachmann]

If there's a smile on my face, it's only there trying to fool the public.

[sage]

I was talking about that lipstick. Looks like she put it on with a paint roller.

[Michelle Bachmann]

Okay, that's quite a different subject/

[swede]

A sexy clown.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Chill-ay out.

[bomb everyone]

Newt stealing Cain's Chile obsession.

[gaijin]

social security...I thought this was a national security debate?

[sage]

That is vital to our fucking national security? GO HOME COMMIE

[sage]

? !

[bomb everyone]

11 trillion in new debt, 15 trillion current = 26 trillion in 2020. And these fools are talking about malaria aid and Chile.

[Coeus]

And she started out so well.

[Fist of Etiquette]

China will piss on our rug... with our our urine!

[sage]

Maybe with your your urine. But I'm saving my my urine for Obama's mouth.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Who are you, the pronoun police?

[sage]

Who me?

[gaijin]

secret service is monitoring. urine big trouble

[Amerifuntimes]

Haha.

[Jerry]

Hugo Chavez is probably pissed right now that none of the candidates have mentioned him yet.

[rac]

Ha ha. He's in!

[Bee Tagger]

Yikes, CNN, are you sure that having Wolf talk about Egypt with the audience cheering in the background was the right move?

[Spoonman.]

Reading this thread seems way better than watching the debate. A +1 to the first who can get me another Goodhair word salad link. Nothing is funnier to me than word salad.

[Bee Tagger]

The state with the longest shared border with Mexico, right now?! What does Wolf know??

[bomb everyone]

Maybe he's hip to that whole North American Union plan.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"First question: affirm my belief that collateral damage from the drug war is a national security concern."

[gaijin]

the terrorismz are at the border

[Coeus]

We know that? Iran is helping mexicans run drugs? Who-ha-in-tha-what-now?

[rac]

Nuclear chronic?

[John]

The Iranians are seriously in bed with Chavez who runs a tremendous amount of drugs. So that is actually not that unlikely.

[Coeus]

Last I checked, Chavez wasn't a mexican.

[Lost_in_translation]

Mexico is the conduit. But smuggling in terrorists is just speculation

[Lost_in_translation]

Chavez may be irans last friend so I wouldnt be surprised

[Coeus]

Love that he got applause on "end the drug war".

[Fist of Etiquette]

I'm beginning to suspect that Ron Paul doesn't like to spend money on war. (I just bet he's all for free wars, though.)

[John]

This debate is depressing. Ron Paul is the least worrisome of the bunch. He is totally naive and is way to cavalier about the threat of terrorism. But if he were to become President that wouldn't matter much because we have an entire security apparatus that he would have little actual control over. So Paul couldn't surrender us to the Muslim hoards if he wanted to. While he would grossly disappoint his libertarian supporters, he would at least trim the edges of things and reign in some of the worst excesses and most importantly keep things from getting worse.

The rest of them are just morons. It is clear they have no idea how homeland security actually works. They have no new ideas. They have no idea of the downsides to the approaches we are taking. They would just continue the worst excesses of Obama and Bush and improve upon them. They are typical politicos desperately afraid of being blamed for something or having to make a decision. And you could basically sell them on locking people up in camps if they thought it would get them votes and lower the risk of them ever being held accountable for anything.

[Coeus]

He is totally naive and is way to cavalier about the threat of terrorism.

Seriously? did you see the bathtub article yesterday?

[John]

I am serious. And what is the bathtub article?

[Coeus]

http://reason.com/blog/2011/11.....re-than-te

[John]

I have read that argument before. The problem with that is that it assumes the risk going forward is exactly what it is today. We can do that with something like bathtubs. The risk associated with bathtubs is not likely to change year to year. But the risk of terrorism most definitely can change year to year. If Al Quada has a nuke ready to go off in the next two months, then I am in a lot more danger than past statistics would indicate. Do they? I don't know. And that is the whole point. Whatever the threat is, it is determined by what is going on now and in the future not what went on in the past. That article is pure sophistry.

[Coeus]

You've been sitting in the belly of the beast too long. Reports of our iminent demise have been greatly exaggerated. They're currently trying to build up a 200 strong group in Africa of child soldiers who can't afford shoes as an "imminent terrorist threat". To me, that indicates that they're out of boogey men, and they know it.

[John]

I think the threat is not what it once was. That mostly has to do with us slaughtering thousands of wanna be extremists in Iraq and Afghanistan. That doesn't mean it can't change. And even now we don't know what we don't know. All we are catching in the US right now are stupid and incompetent wanna bes. Does that mean that is all there is or does that mean the smart ones are out there planning something big.

I don't know. But I do have very little faith in the FBI catching any of them other than through dumb luck. We need to totally concentrate on WMDs. The rest of it is noise. There are not enough radical Muslims in the country to do any real damage with conventional bombs or weapons. We can take the odd Hussein shooting a few people every once in a while. We are big country. But we do not want to deal with a WMD.

As I said above, what is so infuriating about the debate is that no one has any approach beyond more of the same. I disagree with Paul that it is always a criminal matter. But at the same time, I think there are very few cases when it was not and very few things that justify the full effort of the federal government. And that is WMDs. So we should stop worrying about stopping every visa cheat and just worry about stopping WMD materials and such, which we already do. We could get just as good of security for a lot less money. But these people would never say that or admit that some small plots we will never stop and sometimes you have to assume some risk. They only know 11.

[Coeus]

The WMD threat has never been greater than shortly after the collapse of the soviet union. It didn't happen then, so lets go back to the security measures (for wmds only) that we had then.

[John]

It is going back up as technology gets better. WMD is not just nukes. It is shockingly easy to make weaponized anthrax. I am still not sold on how you would ever get a nuke into the country and even if they did it would be a small one. But biological agents could kill millions over a huge area.

[Coeus]

That ship has already sailed. Anyone with college-level biology and 6 weeks to study can weaponize a biological agent in their garage. No amount of government spending can prevent that. That is the reality now.

[John]

Oh they have their ways. It is easy but not that easy. And really hard to do without showing yourself.

[Coeus]

http://medgadget.com/2005/05/garagebased_dna.html

You sure about that?

[Coeus]

And that was 6 years ago. The community has exploded since then. Multiple different options for equipment and supplies are now available.

[John]

Yes. If it was that easy, it would have already happened because there are plenty of people out there who would like to make it happen.

[Coeus]

Bullshit. You know how many people are capable of creating an EMP? Why haven't we seen one of those yet? Face it, our enemies are just not as smart and capable as we've been led to believe. Our best bet is to quit creating justifiably resentful foriegners by bombing the shit out of random countries. Paul is absolutely correct. We keep it up, and eventually we will have smart and capable enemies. but we don't right now

[The Bearded Hobbit]

You know how many people are capable of creating an EMP Bullshit back at you.

I did EMP testing on military aircraft and communications systems. The one unclassified statement that I can make is "meh".

Widespread EMP is very hard to generate. It would take a hydrogen bomb outside of the atmosphere over Nebraska to even influence the whole country, and even then it would be a minor problem at best. All weapons systems are hardened today and only some civilian "targets" are hardly affected.
Because of pulse-width duration and the inverse-square law, your Home Personal Operational Tactical Center is much more likely to be take out by a nearby lightning strike.

... Hobbit

[Neu Mejican]

Sounds about right.

[Coeus]

I was actually thinking more along the line of a directed pulse at vunerable transportation systems. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

[rather]

The communications systems interference issue is a problem with satellites .

[Brian D]

So either it's not that easy and we don't have to worry as much about it as we are, or it is that easy, but it hasn't happened, so we don't need to worry about it as much as we are.

[Brian D]

Next to Ron Paul, the candidate who performed the best tonight was Gary Johnson.

[Ed Teller]

For those interested in the topic, get a copy of On Nuclear Terrorism. You'll sleep far better at night after reading it. Maybe send Insanatorium a gift copy for Xmas too

[Tulpa]

they're out of boogey men

Then why don't they just leave the disco party and go home?

[Les Nessman]

Booger!

[Lost_in_translation]

John for Paul. You heard it here folks

[John]

Yes, times really are getting that desperate.

[CrackertyAssCracker]

Great endorsement, John. Maybe practice in a mirror next time though. It's a little rough around the edges.

[PantsFan]

Blitzer: Ron Paul, did you just tell every American they should go out and buy 20 grams of coke and 50 grams of Heroine for Thanksgiving?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Ron Paul wants to take away your prescription drugs.

[SIV]

And our alcohol.

[veemee sashimi]

Paul goes off on the drug war. Blitzer sounds incredulous that someone could suggest such a barbaric thing as legalizing drugs.

[Coeus]

Every time Paul drops truth on that stage, everyone else looks like he just dropped a turd. It's gotta be distasteful to be confronted with your bullshit.

[John]

It is more that they live in a bubble where people don't think that or challenge their belief in that. So they have no idea how to respond beyond "you can't be serious".

[Coeus]

You think they really believe that shit?

[John]

Yes they do. To most of polite America the thought of ending the drug war is just unthinkable, not serious, not even worth considering.

[Coeus]

I was more referring to the economic arguments. You're right about the drug war, unfortunately.

[John]

The liberals I know believe the crazy economic arguments. But they don't really understand them. It is more blind faith in authority. "Well this is what the economists say" kind of stuff.

[Coeus]

They believe that slightly reducing future expected growth is a spending cut? Or do they just not know that they're being lied to?

[John]

They don't even know that anything called a cut isn't actually a cut.

[Coeus]

That's what I mean. Those candidates damn well do.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"Come in the front door."

Did Herman Cain just sexually harass me?

[veemee sashimi]

It was just a matter of time..

[John]

What, you don't like brown sugar?

[Dekedin]

Threadjack, but has anyone else seen the Morning Links link on Facebook? Holy crap. There's like 2000 comments by Syrian pro-government citizens. Probably, they might be sockpuppets or bots. But regardless, all of them are anti-UN/America, pro-Syria. This is as weird as our gamboling man posting on every article.

[John]

If that is the Syrians idea of social media war, they need to get their money back.

[gaijin]

High skilled immigrants...if they can play sports, fast track em!

[Bee Tagger]

Forget about eVerify, we need ageVerify.

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

Why do you hate Dominicans so much?

[Bee Tagger]

Santorum: Americans will make things no matter how much more it costs us

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

Well yeah. We can make it up on volume.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Nice statue, Einstein.

[gaijin]

Newt: We need something like a WWII SS?

[John]

I am not watching this. No fucking way. Did he say those words or just give that impression?

[gaijin]

Sorry...He said we ned something like the WW2 selective service board to decide who gets in.

[John]

Oh Immigrants? We kind of already have that. It is called USCIS.

[Fist of Etiquette]

OMG, this thing is two hours?

[gaijin]

The speaker can speak for himself. But who speaks for you Michelle?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Newt just got pegged as pro-Mexican. Ouch.

[Herman Cain]

blitz has lost control of this debate. what happened to foreign policy?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Give us your intelligent, your educated, your academics.

[CE]

Because nothing wins the votes and donations of American engineers in California like pushing H1B Visas for cheap foreign labor to come in and take their jobs, or the ones they're looking for.

[PantsFan]

I really hope the next section is Music Trivia.

[veemee sashimi]

Speaker Gingrich, who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?

[John Thacker]

Huntsman will kill at that. Check out his long and informed discussion of the career of Captain Beefheart here.

[John]

Huntsman actually isn't that bad. Why the fuck did he go to work for Obama and give everyone the impression he was a douchebag?

[John Thacker]

Huntsman problem is that he gives off the impression that he hates ordinary voters but loves the elite. And that people who disagree with him are morons and evil. In fact many politicians may secretly believe this, but it's a bad impression to give. Doesn't sell well.

He governed reasonable conservatively and I don't dislike his positions, but he somehow believed that the way to win a primary was to attack voters for being idiots.

[John]

That is a good description of him. When I read about his positions, I am like "hey he seems pretty good". When I hear him speak I am like "I hate that guy".

[WWNGD?]

When does the talent competition segment start?

[Banjos]

They cut it for the swimsuit portion.

[PantsFan]

That's nasty.

[Banjos]

Hey Pants, what the fuck happened here? I now look crazy.*

Well, more crazier than usual.

[PantsFan]

I think I broke my youtube quota.

[Banjos]

It is so random. I get deleting one or two, but all of them? Granted, you did post Nickelback...

[Mr. FIFY]

Hey, Banjos... found this for you:

http://www.gocomics.com/pearls.....2011/11/07

Enjoy.

[Banjos]

Sweeeeet. Thanks Fify.

[Mr. FIFY]

One of the few comic strips I can actually read and enjoy. Dude's funny.

[Coeus]

At least everyone but perry opted for the one-piece.

[WWNGD?]

I was going to use swimsuit, but I thought "talent" or lack of, was a much better choice.

[rac]

Why do they have to belong to a church?

[PantsFan]

If they are part of a Mosque they are terrirst.

[SIV]

Ties to the community.

[bomb everyone]

Finally found this Futurama clip: http://www.comedycentral.com/v.....an9-debate

Whenever Mitt speaks, I think of that clip.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"24 years? Sure, kick them the fuck out. But 25? No."

[gaijin]

f'ing magnets! How do they...oh nevermind.

[John Thacker]

Peter Suderman beat you to it.

[gaijin]

f'in submit button...how does it work...d'oh!

[gaijin]

f'ing magnets! How do they...oh nevermind.

[gaijin]

f'ing magnets! How do they...oh nevermind.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Intellectual exercise? I wish.

[Lost_in_translation]

He was about to say intellectual masturbation I just know it.

[Lost_in_translation]

Why can't Paul learn to speak like Professor Gingrich. He seriously lacks the subtle condenscension necessary to appeal to the average voter.

[gaijin]

I always imagine Gingrich taking that tone with whichever wife has just discovered his most recent philandering.

[Mitt Romney]

Amnesty for none! Except for those people who clean up my lawn in the fall...

[PantsFan]

Damn now I want a structured settlement.

[rac]

You know, my mother used to yell at me for leaving my boots on the gournd.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Is Addington Rick Perry's speech coach?

[bomb everyone]

I thought Syria didn't really have any oil.

[gaijin]

that was my thought too...but maybe he is privy to top secret info...or I am an idiot...or both....or neither.

[bomb everyone]

"Experts generally agree that Syria will become a net importer of petroleum not later than 2012."

[Amerifuntimes]

We need some Paul right now. This is as boring as watching a failing Turing test transpire.

[CrackertyAssCracker]

I dunno. I think watch Perry is exactly like watching a failing Turing test transpire. He knows the right things to say for a while, but with a little follow up you realize he has no actual knowledge at all about what he is talking about. He just knows how he passed the previous Turing tests.

[Rick Perry]

I support a no fly zone over Syria to help support our allies who neighbor that country: South Africa, Australia and Canada. Oh and I forgot the fourth one.

[Campaign Advisor]

Lichtenstein?

[Jerry]

Jon Huntsman: South Africa gave up its nukes and look at the country now.

[gaijin]

somalia!!!!!!!!!!

[Lost_in_translation]

I hear they have rOaDZ

[gaijin]

and guns

[gaijin]

Ron Paul..."eff with people and they don;t like it"...say it loud!

[bomb everyone]

Sad, I think this is the first time Paul is really missing the question.

[pmp]

J. Huntsman: Our interest in the region is Israel.

Wow. Just...wow.

[Lost_in_translation]

If you're not Israeli you don't count obviously. Why does the middle east hate us again?

[Rick Perry]

all Middle Eastern countries have oil, right? syria, Lebanon, ummmm.... Wisconsin... uhhh... border?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Mitt Romney: Ron Paul = Barack Obama

[Coeus]

Fuck mittens with barbed-wire.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hey, that's your next president you're talking about there.

[Clevelandite]

All the more reason to make sure the wire is barbed.

[bomb everyone]

Covert actions? Are you fuckign serious?

[bomb everyone]

Covert actions? Are you fuckign serious?

[gaijin]

Apparently Rick Perry thinks we need to get serious right now.

[Lost_in_translation]

Why so serious...

[gaijin]

Maybe he just meant we all need satellite radio?

[PantsFan]

Covert Actions?

[bomb everyone]

Rick, Iran and Syria aren't exporting terrorism.

[John]

The people of Iraq, Lebanon and Northern Israel would respectfully disagree.

[Lost_in_translation]

Iran is not a nice regime. All candidates understand that. The key is do we keeping jacking up the confrontation especially with our debt going out the roof? Does it really benefit us to get involved in another nation building exercise?

[John]

We should never get involved in a nation building exercise in Iran. We should just make them understand that if they ever screw with us we will bomb the living hell out of them targeting their leadership personally. I couldn't give a shit less if the Iranians want to wallow in some Islamist hell hole. And have no interest in rebuilding their country if they screw with us or any of the rest of the civilized world.

[Lost_in_translation]

Yeah but we need to get a clearer foreign policy before we start bombing. Iran can't not know that if push comes to shove well bomb them but If we keep invading around them they can't back down without losing face among their people. We've got to give them breathing room to do the right thing rather than keep pushing them down the path of ratching up the confrontation

[John]

But what way can we offer them?

[Lost_in_translation]

Remove our military presence from the area. If we want a base over there put them in Israel or turkey. Then we come back and tell the the ambassadors " alright your leadership has gotten a win. Now give up your nuclear program or well take it from you". They get the visible win. We get the diplomatic one.

[Tulpa]

We have top minds in the State Department crafting Iran policy. What do YOU know about DIPLOMACY? Do you have a degree in international relations?

[Top Minds]

Top mind 1: B5
Top mind 2: Miss. A4
Top mind 1: Miss. H5
Top mind 1: Miss. J10
Top mind 2: Hit. You sunk my destroyer.
etc...

[Apatheist]

Don't worry guys Tulpa says that TOP MEN are on the job so don't waste time forming your own opinion about how your tax dollars are spent.

[Lost_in_translation]

TOP MEN!

[Fluffy Got Demoted]

If we can interfere in the internal affairs of Iraq so can they.

And Lebanon has for many decades been a collection of armed sub-groups poorly wedged together into a sometimes-government. Iran supporting one of those sub-groups (while other nations support others) really can't be called "exporting terrorism". Israel has killed more people in Lebanon than Iran has, by far, so if we're going to start bombing people for hurting Lebanon we have to start with Tel Aviv.

[John]

You really do have a hard on for the Mullahs don't you fluffy? Isreal has killed a lot of people in Lebanon. And almost all of that has been in response to people in Lebanon supported by the Syrians shelling Israel. And Syria murdered the President of Lebanon and actively tried to destroy any democratic process in Lebanon.

Do you honestly think the Lebanon would be a better place if the Syrians or Iranians ran it?

It is one thing to say we shouldn't go to war with Iran. But you really do seem to think that Iran does not and could never mean any harm to another country.

[John]

And Iran is influencing Iraq to become an Islamist hell hole. Maybe you think that is benign. Hell, maybe you think it is great. But I think you are in the minority on that.

[Lost_in_translation]

You mean a country with a huge oppressed Shia population with many original ties to Iran before the Brits carved it up like a turkey dinner is looking to the closest natural ally? Iran meddles in Iraq is a given but it's not without a huge Iraqi support.

[Fluffy Got Demoted]

If we claim we want Iraq to be a democracy and to be sovereign, we have to be prepared for Iraq to be dominated by Shia Muslims and be friendly to Iran.

Now maybe both of those things are terrible ideas for Iraq. But we can't have it both ways.

But you really do seem to think that Iran does not and could never mean any harm to another country.

Not at all. It's just really annoying to see routine regional power politics hyperbolized by you as "exporting terrorism".

According to you, Iran is the most dangerous and irresponsible regime in the world, because they...do pretty much exactly what the US and Israel routinely do, except on a more limited scale and in fewer places.

[Lost_in_translation]

A little cynicism here but really we are just here to consider what's best for the USA, Iran be damned. Substantively though realpolitik tells us that pushing further on the middle east continues to drain our wallet and make our nation even more war weary which means when we come across real threats well be too lethargic and cynical to really get on board. And our incursions do help the terrorist recruiting centers continue to point to our imperialistic ways. Don't get me wrong. It's great that women can get educated in Afghanistan and the Shias are brutally represed anymore but as far as our own interests our concerned were in a more precarious position internationally now than 10 years ago and most of it is our own fault.

[Ren]

So Mitt believes if we have a strong economy and strong military...no one will mess with us.

Hmmm...in 2001 we had both yet I clearly remember planes crashing due to what we know now which is military influence around the world.

[John]

I know that is why attacked places like Bali, London and Madrid.

[gaijin]

Santorum: Socialismz= islamismz.

[Rick Perry]

We need to save Israel from the threats to their precious bodily fluids.

[bomb everyone]

China's PLA?!

[Jerry]

Calling China communist is about the greatest insult you can put to that country, Rick Perry.

[Fist of Etiquette]

NINE ELEVEN REFERENCE.

[bomb everyone]

Seriously, for being called a "moderate," I think Mitt might be the most dangerous guy up there after Santorum.

[gaijin]

Interesting that Romney spent several opportunities challenging Ron Paul tonight...

[John]

He has apparently read the polls in Iowa. It also probably means Romney's internals show Paul stronger than the public ones do.

[Amerifuntimes]

Makes sense to me. Shaking in your boots, Romney

[Tulpa]

Romney's internals

Ewww.

[Amerifuntimes]

This was definitely a change from previous debates. Paul was being referenced left and right.

[PantsFan]

El Kabong is real!

[Bingo]

Things I learned on twitter: Ron Paul is apparently adorable

http://twitter.com/#!/search/ron paul cute

[Bingo]

Oh fuck your link parsing http://twitter.com/#!/search/ron paul cute

[Amerifuntimes]

Of course he is. Awwwww precious statesman.

[PantsFan]

When do the real candidates show up?

[The Angry RPh]

Wow. I'm at work tonight, but the DVR is doing its thing at home. I can't decide if I'll even watch. You guys make it sound like a real mess.

[Bingo]

When is it ever NOT a mess? The only way it could be worse is if Trump and Giuliani were on stage.

[The Angry RPh]

While the other idiots argue about how THEY would use military force in the Middle East (and they'll get it right this time, doan'cha know) RP is the only one asking a different question. I was hoping he'd get the chance to lay a coup de grace on somebody. I guess I should have known better.

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

Quick! Everybody jump over to Drudge and take a look at the picture before the editor is forced, at gunpoint, to change it.

Hurry. It may never fucking happen again.

[Bingo]

He's trending like crazy on twitter right now... http://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/"Ron Paul"

Man, I gotta suppress this optimism. Where's that bottle of bourbon?

[The Angry RPh]

Damn. Now you're making me want to watch. Especially if it involves whisky.

[Bingo]

Big reaction, amazing when you give the guy more than 90 seconds in a debate.

By far my favorite anti-Ron Paul tweet:

Ron Paul is an idiot. How does he keeps getting elected as a senator? let alone run for president?

[Warty]

Some delicious anti-Ron Paul hate here: http://twitter.com/#!/MJGerson

MaxBoot Max Boot
by MJGerson
I was impressed by foreign policy knowledge displayed by most of the candidates. EXCEPT Cain, Perry, & old snarky pacifist guy.
49 minutes ago

MJGerson Michael Gerson
Ron Paul: "I think the aid is all worthless." With more than 5 million on AIDS meds in Africa, Paul is either ignorant or a moral monster.
52 minutes ago
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streeterryan Ryan Streeter
by MJGerson
Ron Paul advocates a "policy of good will." Time for crazy ol' uncle Ron to return to the attic. #CNNdebate
1 hour ago

DELICIOUS

[chris]

Boot and Gerson. One maneuvered the Wall Street Journal into dumping their associated libertarians from the pages in the mid nineties, the other the brains behind that genius of foreign and domestic policy Bush the lesser. Makes you wonder how we are not completely dominating the scene when guys like that are the opposing team.

[Britt]

Eh, Boot wrote two good books.

[chris]

So? Podhoretz wrote a few good books and he is fucking nuts.

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

You know who wrote a book so good that everybody in his adopted country bought it?

[Gezundheight]

Barack Obama?

[marlok]

Gerson is a crazy ol' war-mongering moral monster.

See, anyone can play the ad hom game! It takes a real winner like Gerson to get paid for it.

[Amerifuntimes]

Which picture?

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

Not Tebow.

[PantsFan]

Will the Bears go with Kyle Orton or Brett Favre?

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

Orton would be a better fit. He knows the system they will run (run, run, play action), whereas Favre will try to come in and take over.

No Josn McCown love?

[Tulpa]

Whoever the Bears get is backing up Caleb Hanie, not starting.

One thing is for sure: Matt Forte is going to have even more of a cow if they dump $2.5M into a washed up backup QB while nickel-and-diming him on his extension.

Gotta love the McCaskeys!

[Sevo]

Uh, isn't there a college game on tonight? You know, something worth getting concerned about.

[capitol l]

Yup, a real nail biter.

The Syracuse Baby Rapers really gave it to Penn State's Shower Sodomites.

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

Baby Rapers?

Seems mighty funny he kept "child abusing" the guy until he was 22 years old.

[capitol l]

Alright then Mr. Brokaw.

You see, I'm a very busy man that doesn't have the time to concern himself with all of the perversions of football type people that populate the news. You, on the other hand, seem to have quite the handle on the pedo/homo-erotic inclinations of our nation's college football coaches, and I thank you for the wealth of information that you provide.

Like I always say, if you don't want to draw attention to yourself then don't diddle them kids. I should be a motivational speaker.

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

I do know that he was a basketball coach at Syracuse.

[capitol l]

Way to kick me when I'm down.

[Sevo]

So who won? Did the Baby Rapers beat the Sodomites or did Ron Paul run the table?
I was busy with probably the last steak BBQ of the season...

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

Um, FYI, you fucking barbarian: BBQ is pork. Cooking steak is called "grilling out."

[Poet Laureate sloopyinca]

Oh, and the sodomites won 99-66.

Both teams seemed pleased with their score.

[capitol l]

You can bbq brisket or cow ribs, right?

[chris]

If it's anything like the National Anthem, it will be excruciating.

Reminds me. I found out about Worf Obama's 'all this over a stupid flag' moment a month after it happened. However, after carefully examining the video, I know that is not what she said. They were watching a bunch of guys in Scots' men skirts parading down the street at the time, and she said, 'look at those stupid fags.'

[Bingo]

Oh man Gillespie, if you're gonna drunkenly flirt on twitter with Giada DiLaurentiis (or however the fuck you spell it) please at least get the fucking @ sign in front of her account correct. For shame, Old Man.

[chris]

My R-E-S-P-E-C-T for N.G. just went through the roof. (Looking around, wife still in front of the TV) That is MAJOR tail.

[Joshua Corning]

Why is Peter Suderman's twitter photo of Edward Norton in Fight Club?

http://twitter.com/#!/petersuderman

[John]

Are all women this fucking whiny?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45.....sxorXLNl1F

Even those who did plot out their lives past the initial first career have unrealistic expectations about full-time employment. It's not as if these women expected their jobs to be parties and good times, but many underestimated the actual day-to-day drudgery. "College is nothing more than a baby-sitting service. These students are totally unprepared for the real world. The reality for women who want to work in PR is that they are going to be working with 24 catty [women] who will backstab and compete with them. No one will say thank you. You will eat lunch at 5 p.m. It sucks and it's hard work," says Cutrone.

All of this unhappiness has left young women struggling over their next move. Simply quitting or changing careers isn't an option because the education for their professional jobs has burdened many of them with substantial student debt. Also, while earlier generations may have opted out of the workforce through marriage or motherhood, these paths aren't viable for these self-sufficient women, who either are still single or unwilling to be fully supported by men.

Tear.

[wareagle]

they are going to be working with 24 catty [women] who will backstab...
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^^^^this, and that is according to my wife who says working with a bunch of women sucks. On any given day, one or more are mad at one or more of the others, and the targets and instigators can change on any given day...sometimes, on the same day.

[Mr. FIFY]

Queen Bee Syndrome.

[Female-Bodied Individual]

Bonobos solved this problem by having sex with each other.

[chris]

My hand is still cuter than any guy I know even when I'm cut off.

[Elijah Mohemmed]

True fact, the evil scientist who created the white devil race also created bonobos. Originally only intended to be the white man's escort until white woman could be created, but fled into the wild to become nature's hippies. Let that be a cautionary tale.

[Mr. FIFY]

I watched a total of five minutes of this thing, and had to stop lest I gave in to my urge to rip out my spleen and beat myself to death with it,

[John]

We're doomed. Just learn to roll with it.

[ooo]

My brain is meltiiiiing, meltiiiiiiing!!!

[Mr. FIFY]

Oh, I knew we were doomed. I'm just wondering how much longer we have to wait for it.

[Mr. FIFY]

Shit! Reply fail. Need more Jagermeister.

Or maybe less.

[Warty]

I never knew before tonight how utterly mesmerizing Twitter is. Fucking amazing shit, folks.

SaltoftheEarth2 Annette Jones
@
@macpowell No, we can not turn our backs on Israel! Ron Paul needs to read his Bible!
8 minutes ago

[Bingo]

Twitter owns.

[Bingo]

Nick finally ended his drunkage stream of tweets and crashed. Way to ignore the commentariat of HnR you fucking 1%er.

[PantsFan]

Just wait til you read the #OWS tweets.
You'll lose your mind

[Mr. FIFY]

I've heard enough of those fucktards already.

Thanks for the offer of losing sanity, though. Mighty kind of ya, Pants.

[Hate Potion Number Nine]

Open letter to Newt: If you want to wage a covert war against a nation (and have that thing called "deniability" the first and most important thing to do is not fucking talk about it on an internationally broadcast debate. Kinda ruins the whole "covert" part if you do.

[Sevo]

You missed the closing paren, but not bad.

[Dekedin]

From Twitter
Neville Chamberlain was nice to Hitler in 1938, but that didn't end well. Ron Paul, learn some history. Iran is the Nazi Germany of today.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[yogi]

Iran is the Nazi Germany of today

Minus the German work ethic.

[SIV]

The snazzy uniforms, the best tanks etc.

[Tulpa]

ie, Fascist Italy

[Tulpa]

Man catches 881-pound tuna, seized by feds

Rafael and his crew were using nets to catch bottom-dwellers when they inadvertently snagged the giant tuna. However, federal fishery enforcement agents took control of the behemoth when the boat returned to port. The reason for the seizure was procedural: While Rafael had the appropriate permits, fishermen are only allowed to catch tuna with a rod and reel.

And while Rafael is denied the mother of all fish stories, the federal impoundment of his catch also means he's probably losing out on a giant payday. A 754-pound tuna recently sold for nearly $396,000. NOAA regulators do not share any of the proceeds from the fish's eventual sale with a fisherman found in violation of federal rules.

Proceeds of the sale from the fish will be held in an account until the case is resolved, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Office of Law Enforcement. "The matter is still under investigation," said Monica Allen, deputy director with NOAA Fisheries public affairs. "If it's determined that there has been a violation, the money will go into the asset forfeiture fund."

"Asset forfeiture fund". Isn't it nice to know that the feds are always thinking one step ahead?

[heller]

Say goodbye to your half-a-million-dollars fish.

[cynical]

Liberal attitude: Give a man a fish
Conservative attitude: Teach a man to fish
Government attitude: Nice fish you caught. Gimme.

[Reaction]

Iran is the Nazi Germany of today

WIthout the inclusivity

[We meet Top Men in action]

Top Man 1: 3.
Top Man 2: 5.
Top Man 3: 7. 3 and 4.
Top Man 4: 11. Still not a 2!
Top Man 1: 2! Move out. Draw Again. Back 4! Almost home.
Top Man 2: 2! Move out. Draw Again. 11. Switch, Green. Haha!
Top Man 3: Sorry! Get out, blue!
Top Man 4: 9. Still not a 2!
etc.

[Moncler jas]

Weather starts to cool, the various brands have launched new jacket this season, and his new Moncler will be made public. Products based on this season's fashion trends, coupled with the designer's unique creativity, whether it is style, workmanship, or materials, checks at each level, so that each Moncler Jacken Frauen Hinunter ,Moncler Jacken M?nner Hinunter and Moncler Kids is excellent value for money.

[Reason Commentary]

Told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

[Mr. FIFY]

Yes, your post qualifies for all of the above.

[Reason Commentary]

See above.

[Lost_in_translation]

It's trolls all the way down