Economics

Still Dodging Our Harsh Budget Reality

The supercommittee won't save us.

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For the next 12 months, Americans will be in suspense waiting to find out who will win the presidential election and thus determine the fate of the nation for years to come. Too bad that by then, it may not matter so much.

That's partly because presidents must work within narrow confines established before they arrived. It's also because this month, a decision will be made that will have large and lasting consequences, for good or ill.

I refer to the vote by the congressional supercommittee assigned to find a way to reduce the deficit over the next decade. Its success could be a boon to the economy, the next generation of taxpayers, and the health of our democracy. But if you're a betting person, bet on failure.

The group, after all, is set up on the assumption that failure is a real possibility. It's charged with finding at least $1.2 trillion in deficit cuts, but since membership is split evenly between Republicans and Democrats, a majority vote for any package will be elusive if not impossible.

If they can't agree, a backup program will go into effect. Automatic cuts of nearly a trillion dollars would take place, coming mostly out of cuts in discretionary domestic spending and defense outlays.

The automatic cuts were imagined to be so excruciating that the supercommittee would have no choice but to agree on a plan. In reality, they are clearly the least painful option, making them hard for politicians to resist.

Doing nothing, which would trigger "sequestration," offers powerful attractions to both Republicans and Democrats. It gives Republicans their inviolable demand, because it doesn't raise taxes. It lets Democrats protect the entitlement programs (Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid) they prize above all else. It lets both pretend to have done something about our swelling federal debt.

But will this option actually reduce expenditures in the programs affected? "No, no, no, no," replied Veronique de Rugy, a researcher at George Mason University's Mercatus Center, when I asked her. "Spending increases quite dramatically."

Defense outlays would rise by 18 percent over 10 years. Nondefense discretionary spending (for everything from education to national parks to law enforcement) would grow by 12 percent.

Besides, the automatic cuts are not carved in marble. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta opposes those for defense. So does Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, who says, "Congress is not bound by this—it's something we passed; we can reverse it."

Other GOP senators and House members have come out for repealing the triggers. They may find plenty of allies among Democrats who want to hold domestic programs harmless.

Repudiating the whole budget plan right away might be too blatant for either party to embrace. But critics in Congress know that over time, it's not hard to find ways to circumvent, relax or scrap the original requirements.

That's the bad news. The worse news is that even if the supercommittee were to approve a plan, we would not be making progress, but merely buying time.

Cutting $1.2 trillion from the deficit over 10 years would mean the federal debt would continue to grow. The supercommittee, according to the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, needs to double or triple the savings "to put debt on a clear, downward path by the end of the decade."

Getting that amount of deficit reduction would require each party to swallow something it abhors. For Republicans, it's tax changes to boost federal revenue. For Democrats, it's reductions in what retirees will get from Social Security and Medicare.

Democrats on the supercommittee reportedly would be willing to ratify a "grand bargain" to reach $3 trillion in deficit savings. But Republicans rejected the idea because it would include tax increases.

That's a poor excuse. The burden of the federal government is a function of how much it spends, not how much it taxes. Averting a tax increase is no bargain if it means letting outlays continue their upward climb, carrying the nation to fiscal ruin.

There is no guarantee that the Democrats would really accept significant curbs on their favorite programs. Republicans, however, could only gain from insisting that Americans pay for all the government they get—and get only what they are willing to pay for.

But politicians and their constituents generally resist unwelcome changes until harsh reality forces them to change. The longer we wait the harsher it will be.

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  1. Times are harsh, which is why the Kochs can’t pay even one more penny in federal taxes, especially not on their billions of dollars they will leave behind when they’re dead.

    1. Times are harsh, which is why the Kochs GE can’t pay even one more single penny in federal taxes, especially not on their billions of dollars they will leave behind when they’re dead of actual profit.

      1. What makes you think I don’t want GE to pay their fair share?

        1. And who exactly is to decide what “fair” is?

          1. I think we can all agree that “fair” would be more than 0%.

            1. Nope.

            2. Not if it was 0% for everyone.

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        2. What makes you think I don’t want GE to pay their fair share?

          Umm, because you gave me no reason to?

          1. My GE stock is my hedge against a libertarian government.

            1. That’s not really a hedge. More like a forest.

      2. But way to be a good little serf for your overlords, RC. Good boy, protect that billionaire wealth! Maybe someday (MAYBE!) it will trickle down on you. Or, that could just be them pissing on you.

        1. …is only a trickle.

          The real action is in the SUCK IT UP into higher, righter, and tighter hands.

          And that’s NOT a mere trickle.

        2. You seem to be confusing wealth with money.

          1. …and money with urine.

      3. Times are harsh, which is why the Kochs GE Rangel can’t pay even one more single penny in federal taxes unsubsidized rent , especially not on their his lobbyists billions of dollars they will leave behind when they’re dead of actual profit. hopefully diptheria.

        1. What makes you think I give a shit about Rangel? But he’s a small fry compared to the Koch Bros., or the Mars Family (the latter are the billionaires behind the push to abolish the estate tax).

          1. I wasn’t talking to you.

          2. Fuck the estate tax. Assets are not income until they are exchanged for money.

            1. Blah blah, don’t you mean fuck the agricultural city eSTATE tax which keeps us all bound to PRIVATION PROPERTY?

      4. The corporate income tax rate is 35% and GE paid nothing – because they had zero taxable income IN THE US. Raise the rate from 35% to 99% and they’d still have paid $0 in US taxes. Cut the corporate tax rate to match Canada’s 16% and corporate tax receipts would go up, as international companies would report more of their income in the US.

    2. Right, because all that wealth is buried in the ground…

      1. Surely having wealth go up Paris Hilton’s nose is a far better use of it than building bridges and airports.

        1. I prefer it be used to send scientists to Singapore to study the favorite sexual positions of drunken prostitutes.

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            1. Study this shit to your hearts content. But you don’t have a right to my money as a means to that end. This may be difficult for you to comprehend, but you’ll have to use your own capital to make your own investments.

              1. I don’t give a fuck about YOUR money. I’m talking about billionaires like the Kochs and Mars Family. But like a good little surf you’ll stick up for them to the end so maybe it will “trickle down” someday. Maybe.

                1. I’m talking about billionaires like the Kochs and Mars Family.

                  I swam in the Mars money vault as well. That one was much cleaner. It didn’t give me a rash. I think they launder their money more often then the Kochs.

                2. Right, because once someone hits 250k, then you have a right to their money. Or is the right-to-property cutoff at $1 million now? Does your imaginary rights-line adjust for inflation? First they came for the millionaires… until we are all “rich” in the name of Income Equality Utopia ?.

                  1. Does your imaginary rights-line adjust for inflation? First they came for the millionaires… until we are all “rich” in the name of Income Equality Utopia ?.

                    slippery slope goes wheeeeeeee

                3. its serf honey

                4. But like a good little surf you’ll stick up for them to the end so maybe it will “trickle down” someday.

                  Most people here probably aren’t interested in how much money the Kochs have – there are very few businesses where billionaires make up a large percentage of the customer base. Why on earth would that mean we’d happily let you and your friends confiscate that money to spend it on what you want to spend it on?

                5. …so you think thirtyandseven is good at surfing? And he’s little?

              2. Why does everyone argue so much about who has the most tokens? Those with few tokens get screwed those with lots of tokens get idolized. It’s just sad. I say fuck the token system or establish a better system where tokens don’t determine public power.

            2. fuck off, slaver

        2. I’ve got a bridge and airport in Alaska that might make this a pretty competitive argument.

          1. There’s a bridge in Kentucky that was ready to fall down, and they’ve had to actually close it because its in such bad shape. But hey, it’s much more important that Paris Hilton gets to buy more cocaine than it is that we fix bridges.

            1. There was an anecdote in Texas that sounded like it proved a point, but it really didn’t. But hey, it’s much more important to make half-assed non-arguments than it is to follow the rules of logic.

              1. But jokes about Bear DNA are a-ok!

                1. and sometimes required.

            2. See what you are pointing out there is a failure of government, not a failure of the market. That is unless you are telling me that at no time in the past 20 years neither the city nor the state has ever had the money to fix said bridge.

              Of course around these parts the consensus would be to privatize the entire enterprise…

              1. It’s a federal bridge. And no, neither the city nor state had enough money to do it since its run by low-tax morons.

                1. A federal bridge, and why can’t the locals fix up a federal bridge….come on, I know you know this one.

                2. Still not helping your point.

                3. Low tax morons are far preferable to high tax morons like the aptly-named Dr.Dick.

            3. OMG, and like millions of people were stranded and had no other way to get to market and they all died, OMG!!!

              Or did they just take the other bridge across the river?

              1. Yes, at the cost of tying up traffic in knots adding hours on top of commute time and further straining the other two bridges which are ALSO aging and overcapacity. that’s really an optimal solution whereas raising the top marginal rate to 39% is tyranny on par with Pol Pot.

                1. I’m glad you see it my way.

              2. Yes, at the cost of tying up traffic in knots adding hours on top of commute time and further straining the other two bridges which are ALSO aging and overcapacity. that’s really an optimal solution whereas raising the top marginal rate to 39% is tyranny on par with Pol Pot.

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                2. If they give a shit about the bridge, they can raise money locally to pay for it. I know the feds won’t turn down an offer of free money.

                  If people don’t raise the money themselves to pay for it, then they prefer the traffic knots. Fucking revealed preferences, how do they work again?

                3. 39%, huh? Does that mean that you forswear ALL of the following ideas that are usually promoted by the tax-the-rich crowd:

                  the other .6% of the 39.6% tax rate that prevailed under our most recently impeached & disbarred president?

                  the 5.6% surcharge on incomes > $1.0 mil recently proposed by the democrat senate?

                  “Fixing” social security by removing the cap on income subject to payroll tax (which means a new 12.4% self-employment tax rate on TOP of the Clintonian 39.6% rate)?

                  Phase-out of itemized deductions – especially those pesky charities that Obama loathes so much because they usurp government’s role as sole beneficent distributor of goodies?

                  Or do you want to layer one tax increase on top of another, creating a 70% effective tax rate?

            4. Dude, think of the cocaine manufacturers and distributors who can send their kids to school thanks to Paris Hilton. Why do you hate children?

              1. those are brown children, ergo, they don’t count.

            5. People are not entitled to bridges existing for the sake of being able to use them, or to have traveling times withing the range of a certain quantity. Fuck that bridge. People can adjust their lifestyles to not depend on something that they are not entitled to.

        3. If what was going up Paris Hilton’s nose was legal, then the government would get it’s portion from the corporate tax.

        4. You are a complete imbecile. Estate tax or no, if you think the Kochs, the Mars family, or Paris Hilton will ever pay a brass farthing of it, I can only assume that the sum total of your knowledge of tax law comes from your time perusing the Daily Kos or Talking Points Memo. The estate tax is one of the most easily avoided taxes in existence. That is one of the comments used to DEFEND it. The only people it falls on are those with illiquid, hard-to-value assets that don’t know that they’d be subject to the tax. That is to say on middle-class farmers and business owners. The tax is much more likely to fall on Lionel Jefferson than Paris Hilton.
          If anything the estate tax actually provides a tax benefit to the super-rich by allowing them to step up the basis on their liquid holdings.

    3. especially not on their billions of dollars they will leave behind when they’re dead

      Good point. I mean, that wealth of theirs is not in the form of companies and investments, it’s in a vault like Scrooge McDuck.

      I know this because I am personal friends with the Kochs and I have been swimming in the money vault.

      Unfortunately I developed an embarrassing rash and have refused all invites since.

      1. You know if you go swimming in money, if can leave you chafed with “gold rash”.

        1. It might give you a rash, but money in the blood stream is proven to cure aids.

      2. It pretty much is since corporations have record cash reserves right now but are refusing to hire. They’re hoarding it.

        1. Good point. I mean, they should hire people because people want jobs. They don’t need the new hires to actually do anything. They can be like government employees and just sit around doing nothing. It’s not like the corporation needs to produce and sell a product at a profit in order to stay in business. They can just hire people because you want them to.

          Off to OWS, you coming?

          1. As an added bonus, Dick can bitch about how they don’t pay any taxes after they don’t make a profit! Win/win!

        2. “They’re hoarding it.”
          Imagine keeping money that was earned! The HORROR!

        3. YOU Sir, are a fucking financially-illiterate idiot. Before you go spouting the shit you think you know, why don’t you do a little research? Were you capable of that, you would learn that corporate debt is at all-time record levels. The reason that they have large amounts of cash and short term assets is that they have even larger amounts of both long- and short-term DEBT. Companies should fire any CFO that didn’t issue debt in this low rate environment to build a rainy day cash fund to survive the next time the cash window closes as happened in 2008.

          If you don’t know what you’re talking about then how about keeping your goddamned fingers off the keyboard, dipshit?

      3. And if not hoarding, then spending it on stupid shit like new “financial instruments” such as credit default swapws which do absolutely nothing rather than investing in , say, new factories. Why? Because we tax capital gains so low it encourages this kind of reckleess financial speculation instead of building the real economy.

        1. And lets say that they did spend their monies on the dreaded “financial instruments” does the money enter money stasis?

          1. It’s essentially putting it into a casino.

            1. Very good point. Because when you go to a casino you don’t bring anything you can’t afford to lose, because losing is very likely what will happen. Most people go there for the entertainment value.
              And businessmen, like tourists, don’t mind throwing a little money away for entertainment.
              I mean, that’s how businesses work, right?
              By throwing money away.
              Isn’t that how people get rich? By throwing away their money.

              You are so insightful.

            2. BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

              This is some guy clumsily trying to make OWS supporters look stupid by putting stereotyped, stupid arguments in their mouths, right?

              1. All he needs to say is “…it goes in the corporations pockets!”, and the trifecta will be complete:

                FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS!!!
                BRIDGES!!
                CORPORATE POCKETS!!

            3. So you are pissed that the Koch Brothers are gambling with their money… Its very nice that you are concerned about the Koch Brothers handling their money responsibly.

              In any case, if it is an essential casino or not, where does the money go?

            4. A casino jumped out from behind a dark corner and robbed me once. I didn’t stand a chance. Before I knew it I was face down on the ground in a pool of my own vomit with two dice embedded in my back.

              1. A casino jumped out from behind a dark corner and robbed me once.

                Dude, that happened to me too. Except I had a roulette ball shoved up my ass. It was a good two weeks before I could walk normally again.

            5. And where do casinos put their money? In other casinos?

              1. And where do casinos put their money?

                Financial instruments.

              2. It’s casinos all the way down.

              3. And where do casinos put their money?

                If you know what’s good for you, you won’t ask those kind of questions. Capische?

            6. More financial analysis from the Daily Kos or Talking Points Memo, eh? A non-financial company buying CDS is doing so to hedge credit risk from its customers or suppliers in the overwhelming majority of cases. You do understand the logic of going into a casino if you have a bet going the other way, don’t you?

        2. Its almost like you learned how to read by hearing NYT headlines.

          Do you even know what CDS’s are without wikipediaing it?

        3. CREDIT DEFAULT SWAP!!!

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        4. You do realize that those “financial instruments” are the only thing that enabled banks to lend to lower-income people with poor credit, right? You can’t have it both ways, either you want poor people to be excluded from “the American Dream”, or you accept higher risk “financial instruments”.
          Why is that so hard for some people to understand?

        5. The money that companies “hoard” is not profit or capital gain until it makes it back to the investors. Then the net profit on the investment should be taxed as income at the same rate as all income that individuals earn. Why do you hate investors- you probably are one even if you don’t know it, unless you keep all your money in your domicile like some kind of tard.

        6. Yeah, let’s build new factories to make stuff and things because with this booming economy people just can’t get enough of it and the only reason it’s not flying off the shelves is that these greedy pigs won’t make it so they can sell it for a profit, right? It’s called supply and demand. You can build all the factories you want but if there is no demand for the product it’s still a wasted effort. If you build it, they will come only works in Kevin Costner movies.

    4. Say, has your buddy Warren Buffett paid the I.R.S. the billion dollars in back taxes he owes them yet?

    5. Times are harsh, which is why the Kochs can’t pay even one more penny in federal taxes, especially not on their billions of dollars they will leave behind when they’re dead.

      For how much you lefties bloo-bloo-bloo about how capitalism measures the worth of a person by how much money they make, you sure are fixated on what people have in their bank accounts.

    6. did anyone not realize that putting super in front of committee doesn’t guarantee super results?

      1. wait, what?…

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  2. Reducing pressure on the gas pedal so that the rate of increase in speed drops slightly is the same thing as applying the brakes and slowing down.

    1. Yes, in the end the $1.2 trillion cuts are just reductions in planned increases. So nothing is really being cut. Even keeping spending constant at the current level over the next 10 years would be a huge improvement over the so-called $1.2 trillion in cuts.

      Also, I’m surprised no politician has upped the ante by promising $12 trillion in cuts (over the next century) or even $120 trillion in cuts (over the next millennium).

      1. “Also, I’m surprised no politician has upped the ante by promising $12 trillion in cuts (over the next century) or even $120 trillion in cuts (over the next millennium).”

        Don’t give them any ideas.

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    1. SugarFree, obviously.

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  5. This just in: Reason contributor presses for increased tax burdens to pay for federal spending.

  6. Clearly the only alternative here is anarchy, because otherwise this shit will only continue.

    If you disagree with this sentiment, you are a slaver, a statist, and a douchebag, who excuses partial slavery and partial rape on the grounds that hey, at least it isn’t COMPLETE slavery and rape!

      1. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

        1. And only an asshole would ever listen to someone who let himself get chopped in half for no good reason, after royally fucking up the training of the most powerful human in recent history.

          1. That post wasn’t me, Jim. It’s just rectal posting so she can respond to herself, as usual.

            1. Well I knew at least the Obi Wan post wasn’t you, and that’s really who I was responding to. I think his rep for “wisdom” is severely over-stated.

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    1. If you disagree with this sentiment, you are a slaver, a statist, and a douchebag

      What’s the pay like for this position? Health benefits?

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  7. Shouldn’t that be “…reduce the deficits…” or “…reduce the yearly deficit…” Deficits happen every year, the debt is forever.

  8. They’re at it again! Slate.com is reporting the findings of a liberal thinktank as “news”: http://slatest.slate.com/posts…..taxes.html

    ATTACK!

    End Alert.

    1. of the State. Apparently.

  9. DrDick, another moron who thinks he has the right to someone else’s money as soon as they are rich.

  10. DrDick, if he even is a real doctor, is obviously very mad. His rhetoric sounds a lot like that from OWS. And I quote:

    Yes, at the cost of tying up traffic in knots adding hours on top of commute time and further straining the other two bridges which are ALSO aging and overcapacity. that’s really an optimal solution whereas raising the top marginal rate to 39% is tyranny on par with Pol Pot.

    But DrDick, I ask you: what makes you think the increased tax revenue will be used for the purposes you desire? Neither you nor any voter can control where the tax dollars go. You elected a Nobel Peace Prize recipient for President. He escalated our several wars and started several more. Believing that the collective consciousness in D.C. will appropriate fiscal surpluses wisely is the foolish thought of every liberal. The tax money derived from the Kochs will be squandered on more wars and more wasteful healthcare spending that does nothing to improve mortality rates. This money will be wasted because it will be spent by government. It’s really simple dude; just read your history and you will see that governments are sociopathic in nature and wind up destroying everything they touch.

  11. DrDick: Slightly more coherent, equally ignorant brother of Caucasian Sub-Asian?

  12. I am not a betting person and that is why I will never touch government bonds.

  13. That’s partly because presidents must work within narrow confines established before they arrived.

    Not true at all. See the US Constitution and presidents Bush and Obama, for example.

    Even if the Super Committee comes up with a 10-year plan, it’s only binding for the next fiscal year. The 10-year plan part is all a charade. Congress can pass whatever budget they want the next year.

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  14. I can find $1.1 trillion in cuts in just one year: reduce the FY2011 budget back to the FY2007 spending levels.

    Or go with Ron Paul’s plan and cut a trillion right away with a more targeted approach, cutting some departments back to FY2006 levels, leaving others unchanged, and cutting a few even more.

    Heck, just going back to pre-bailout levels would save 7 or 800 billion off the top, each year.

    1. That’s just crazy talk! The government (DoD in particular) were horribly under-funded during the Bush years! I’m surprised we made it out alive…

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  17. For Republicans, it’s tax changes to boost federal revenue. For Democrats, it’s reductions in what retirees will get from Social Security and Medicare.

    I am employed as a contractor for the federal government at a small facility in the southern united states. If people only knew the extent to which the government wastes their money; literally burning it for warmth in the winter or generation of electricity would probably be more cost effective. Extrapolate that to major facilities, and lest we forget the PALLETS of cash that went unaccounted for in Iraq during the last administrations heyday, and then attempt to justify an increase in the amount of money stolen from every working man and woman. Please, can we ditch Steve Chapman? Reason is supposed to entail honest questioning of assumptions. Why do we take as foregone conclusion the need for a tax hike? Many other Reason contributors offer conflicting and more self consistent viewpoints.

    Should we eliminate most of what I will call active social engineering, DOA, DOE, SEC, HUD, FDA, and eliminate unconstitutional, read undeclared, wars we would have more than enough money to pay out our current obligations to those that have been cheated by social security promises, and allow those willing to opt out completely.

  18. “That’s partly because presidents must work within narrow confines established before they arrived.”

    Oh, I see…. you must mean the narrow confines that the Illegitimate Usurper has been operating. Like stealing car companies from stockholders, giving control to union thugs, and nationalizing them? Like circumventing congressional rules and shoving unconstitutional socialized medicine down our throats? Like signing 48 executive orders when egregious Marxist policies won’t pass Congress? Like stealing money from the people and redistributing it through a felonious money laundering scheme to well connected supporters? Like usurping power and control even though you are not a “Natural Born” citizen and do not even possess a valid Social Security number? Like seditious acts of providing arms to enemies of the United States (Mexican drug cartels, Libyan terrorists, Detroit and Chicago gangs)? Like destroying the fiscal integrity of the U. S. dollar by politization of the Federal Reserve? Like bowing to musloid dictators that are enemies of the country and spitting in the face of allies (UK, Israel)? Like using unconfirmed czars who are not sympathetic to the Constitution or its laws to impose egregious rules upon God-fearing, law-abiding citizens? Like INTENTIONALLY bankrupting the country and destroying the legal system in order to “fundamentally transform” our constitutional republic into a Marxist statist command economy? Yes, we do have restrictions on our presidents, don’t we?

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  21. Like seditious acts of providing arms to enemies of the United States (Mexican drug cartels, Libyan terrorists, Detroit and Chicago gangs)? Like destroying the fiscal integrity of the U. S. dollar by politization of the Federal Reserve? Like bowing to musloid dictators that are enemies of the country and spitting in the face of allies (UK, Israel)? Like using unconfirmed czars who are not sympathetic to the Constitution or its laws to impose egregious rules upon God-fearing, law-abiding citizens? Like INTENTIONALLY bankrupting the country and destroying the legal system in order to “fundamentally transform” our constitutional republic into a Marxist statist command economy?
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  22. Love is like a butterfly. It goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes.
    If I had a single flower for every time I think about you, I could walk forever in my garden
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  23. Love is like a butterfly. It goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes. http://www.loundstore.com/

  24. Look into my eyes – you will see what you mean to me.
    Distance makes the hearts grow fonder.
    I need him like I need the air to breathe.
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  25. Like seditious acts of providing arms to enemies of the United States (Mexican drug cartels, Libyan terrorists, Detroit and Chicago gangs)? Like destroying the fiscal integrity of the U. S. dollar by politization of the Federal Reserve? Like bowing to musloid dictators that are enemies of the country and spitting in the face of allies (UK, Israel)?
    http://www.ggtime90.com/

  26. Should we eliminate most of what I will call active social engineering, DOA, DOE, SEC, HUD, FDA, and eliminate unconstitutional, read undeclared, wars we would have more than enough money to pay out our current obligations to those that have been cheated by social security promises, and allow those willing to opt out completely.
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  27. Like bowing to musloid dictators that are enemies of the country and spitting in the face of allies (UK, Israel)? ?
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  28. The darkness is no darkness with thee

  29. Like bowing to musloid dictators that are enemies of the country and spitting in the face of allies (UK, Israel)?

  30. Love is like a butterfly. It goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes.
    If I had a single flower for every time I think about you, I could walk forever in my garden.
    Within you I lose myself, without you I find myself wanting to be lost again.

  31. Two star-crossed lovers in perfect harmony Just give me a chance and you will agree.I was meant for you.And you were meant for me.
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