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Obama's approval of the American public slips to an all-time low.

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President Obama's approval rating of the American public has fallen to an all-time low, according to a new Gallup survey of White House residents and employees.

Fewer than one in 10 Americans earned the president's favor, according to the president. That is down sharply from six in 10—the percentage of Americans Obama approved of shortly after his election in November 2008, and the lowest level yet for his administration.

"They're not doing a very good job, frankly," said the president. "Most of them, I mean. Some are. But not many."
Obama's job approval for how Americans are performing has fallen in every category, from the economy to health care and the environment.

Americans get their highest marks for their handling of national security and emergency preparedness. The killing of Osama bin Laden marked a rare bright spot for the public, and their support for the conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya showed most people have a strong grasp of foreign policy, the survey of Oval Officeholders showed.

Americans also have handled the recent earthquake on the East Coast and Hurricane Irene well, with more than two-thirds of them taking the disasters in stride, according to officials inside the White House.

But otherwise, the government feels the public is falling down on the job. The administration strongly approves of only 9 percent of Americans, while 47 percent are strongly disapproved of. Another 28 percent are somewhat disapproved of, and the White House somewhat approves of the remaining 16 percent.

"What these numbers show, I think, is that the president has become increasingly disillusioned with the American public," said Trevor Gopnik, a professor of political science at Georgetown University.

"He's completely disgusted," said White House press secretary Jay Carney. "Which shouldn't be all that surprising, given the state of the economy, the high unemployment rate, and the fact that most Americans are, let's face it, fat lazy slobs. Go to a mall and look around if you don't believe me," said Carney.

The summer's debt-ceiling stalemate has contributed to the president's sour mood, observers say, as did the decision to cut short his vacation a day early even though many Americans are still enjoying theirs.

The survey of the West Wing also found:

  • Officials are still deeply concerned about high levels of household debt. While delinquency and foreclosure rates have fallen in recent months, per-capita debt load remains too high, holding back the recovery and stoking fears of a double-dip recession that would be blamed on Obama.
  • Americans eat too much and don't get enough exercise, says First Lady Michelle Obama — a view echoed by her husband's administration. "Today, we outline a vision for the nation that requires parents, neighborhoods, the medical community, employers, schools and individuals to take a coordinated and comprehensive approach to combating overweight and obesity," said Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius last year.
  • The public doesn't pay enough taxes. There are "things we need to pay for as a country," the president stressed.
  • Americans also are lousy consumers, according a cross-tabulation of responses by Energy Secretary Steven Chu, who said recent regulation of light bulbs was a good thing because "we are taking away a choice that continues to let people waste their own money."

Other results from the poll indicate that Americans are incapable of providing for their own medical care, insist on buying cars that are safe and comfortable instead of cars that get the highest gasoline mileage, smoke too much, harbor too many of the wrong attitudes, fail to volunteer at sufficient rates, are too greedy, do not separate their recyclables enough, and continue to cling to guns and religion despite being lectured to by their betters about the importance of doing otherwise.

Some analysts tried to find a silver lining in all those clouds.

Republican pollster Mark Nofziger noted that the U.S. is still 14 months away from the next presidential election. The critical period for the American people will not begin until after Labor Day, he said, when politicians begin competing in earnest to determine who will oversee them.

But Lyman Worrel, a historian of American politics at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, warned against too much optimism. "There's always a honeymoon period after any election," he cautioned. "But honeymoons don't last forever. I expect that the next president—whoever he or she is—will be disappointed by the American people, just like Obama has."

A. Barton Hinkle is a columnist at the Richmond Times-Dispatch. This article originally appeared at the Richmond Times-Dispatch.

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  1. Sort of creative.
    Nice effort, Hinkle. Now hit the showers.
    A better idea would have been to have Obama as a lap-dancer, trying to squeeze as much money out of the pre-cum-stained trousers of John Q. Public while secretly loathing his very existence.

    1. You’ve got that backwards.
      John Q. Public is the stripper.
      Obama is the old Japanese businessman obsessed with shoving inanimate objects up the stripper’s cornhole.

      1. So you play the part of the person everyone hates and wants to see die painfully.

        I was just saying that, it has nothing to do with your post.

        1. I like my strippers crispy with a warm, creamy center, myself. Dead strippers kind of gross me out after a while.

          1. Shhh…don’t let that hippy biophilia* stuff show in the sterile confines of reason.

            * The biophilia hypothesis suggests that there is an instinctive bond between human beings and other living systems. Edward O. Wilson introduced and popularized the hypothesis in his book entitled Biophilia.

            1. Wilson’s right, we love steak!

              1. Take eat, this is my body.

                1. While I agree with the comments here, you can’t rule out the fact that this was an A quality article. quotes about death of a loved one

  2. This is like a text edition of “Friday ‘Funnies'”, right?

    1. Yes. Just imagine your version of a badly drawn Obama.

  3. I thought I read an Onion piece similar to this.

    1. Except that if it was an Onion piece, the point would be that he’s right to despise us.

    2. Here’s a link to the brilliant Onion piece: http://www.theonion.com/articl…..d-e,18516/

      Hinkle’s satire here at Reason is also very good.

  4. Civilization’s ratings are too slipping to an all time low.

    Even Lew and Mises has gone fucking primitivist. Has White Indian got to them?

    ? Robb Wolf Answers Your Paleo Diet Questions http://lewrockwell.com/sisson/sisson81.1.html

    ? Libertarian Cavemen in the Big Apple http://blog.mises.org/11439/li…..big-apple/

    Damn it, real civilized people eat Twinkies and Doritos!

    And when we eat our sweetly sedentary asses (except for the half of the civilized world starving or hungry) into Diseases of Civilization, we’ve got glorious Paxil and Insulin, and there is nothing nasty, brutish, and short about poking your body with needles 4x/day to stay alive.

    May our Lord Market bless John Stossel for standing up to all this healthy, natural bullshit. reason.com/archives/2010/11/18/natural-is-not-always-better

    1. If you had any friends, they would reflexively pity you.

    2. I took a shit in a hunter-gatherer’s hovel once

      1. That only makes you a nasty bastage! Go suck a hunter/gatherer and pray for the Acorn Rain.

      2. I hear he, the hunter, wants it back, immediately.

    3. Diabeetus!

      1. Progressives omfort yourself that diabetes, depression, alienation, stress, and the long grind of machine existence are progress from working a couple hours a day and playing around a campfire and telling stories with your family.

        Hunter Gatherers And The Golden Age Of Man
        http://www.raw-food-health.net…..erers.html

        1. Our culture could support almost ten million people in the USA. Top that, civilization-suckers!

        2. Why did White Indian choose this article to post on?

          I think he is intentionally avoiding me and the posts I read.

          1. Not only that… he’s getting more belligerent. I suspect he’ll commit acts of violence soon.

            1. The belligerence in responding to me is overwhelming. By your own estimation, your fellow propertarians will commit acts of violence soon. More than they already are doing by supporting the privation property of the agricultural City-STATE.

              1. Don’t you find the irony in that you are using a tool of the agricultural city state to advocate a lifestyle where the creation of such tools would be an impossibility?

                Also, it’s Nation-State kiddo, we have advanced to sid meur civilization level II category, the city state period ended a few thousand years ago.

            2. hopefully against himself

  5. Now thats what I am talking about dude.

    http://www.being-anon.it.tc

  6. yer mom slipped to an all time low

  7. Can somebody help me?

    ? We hate Government (the State.)

    ? We hate Non-State sociopolitical typology (bands, tribes) in which humans lived for 99% of humanity’s existence.

    ? We love the City-State (civilization.)

    ? We think the State (government) is un-city-Stating.

    The Decivilizing Effects of Government
    http://mises.org/daily/4725

    P.S. If you’re not wearing a bow-tie and uncomfortable clothes, it’s a slippery slope into the mud hut with stinky White Indian.

    Because being uncomfortable is progress.

    “…you have to live with a bit of discomfort…Follow my advice and do your part to save civilization. ~Bow-Tied City-Statist Poodle, How to Dress Like a Foo-Foo Poodle http://www.lewrockwell.com/tucker/tucker38.html

    1. I have wanted to punch Tucker in his bow tie wearing pencil necked geek face for a long time. Ever since he whined that two rednecks with chainsaws didn’t immediately stop doing work in an elderly lady’s yard and come do the work he was too feeble to do himself when he offered to pay them more.

      1. Don’t fall in the trap… that’s White Indian, posting under yet another fake name.

        1. You just hate it that White Indian is a better thinker than you.

          Plus, the cognitive dissonance exploding inside your head from White Indian demolishing your philosophical fantasies based on false premises is rather painful.

          1. troll failure

          2. troll failure

  8. Amusing enough, especially after Obama’s blaming congress for his ratings a week or so ago.

  9. maybe Obama can blame Katia and Lee, since blaming natural disasters has become part of the WH narrative of late. Everyone is responsible except the campaigner-in-chief.

  10. I’d like to formally nominate this piece for a Reasy, or whatever the awards here might be called.

    1. I’ve yet to see a Friday Funny worthy of a Reasy.

  11. So A. Barton Hinkle Heimerschmidt is REALLY Chip Bok.

    Cool story, bro. Who knew.

    1. Dammit, Almanian, I got an ear-worm:
      “When we go out, people always shout…”

  12. so the Libyan rebels that obama supported are rounding up black africans now. these are the “democrats” that are supposed to be an improvement on Ghad. I’m really looking forward to seeing if obama or any black american will say one word about this.

    1. No defense of the Libyan fiasco intended, but got a cite?

      1. nanda is referring to the fact that MANY of Gaddafi/kaddaffi/doucjebag’s armed supporters were actually merceneries ired from Sudan and Chad. as they are the darkest-skinned people still in Lybia, many Lybians are indeed killing them out of revenge.

        Obviously a horrible situation, but the options in Lybia have been; (a) an insane dictator murdering his citicenry after 42 years of oron-fisted control, or (b) who knows what the hell will happen next. To me, B seems like the better option, but it is not without its risks.

        1. “Obviously a horrible situation, but the options in Lybia have been; (a) an insane dictator murdering his citicenry after 42 years of oron-fisted control, or (b) who knows what the hell will happen next. To me, B seems like the better option, but it is not without its risks.”

          That may well be your opinion, and there’s a poster on the board who claims the effort enhances US street cred with hoi poloi in the mid east, but I’ve yet to see evidence of either.
          Still sounds like illegal actions by Obama and nothing to show for it (as if the latter could justify the former).

    2. huh? leebya? funkon man, dazza drunk driver, yo nou wassa meen?, a meen, nother prez, nother cover, yazz GLORY THE HAIR
      http://www.glorythehair.com

      [late night trolling]

  13. Wow, a picture is worth a thousand words….. please Obama, no need for a thousand words now

  14. Remember, boys and girls, the “State” isn’t just an entity floating in a vacuum; the agricultural City-State (civilization) is an indivisible social organization, and has demonstrated the same predictable behaviors for the last 10,000 years.

    In contrast to agricultural City-State (civilization,) anthropology recognizes Non-State social organizations.

    If people are so vocally anti-State, then why aren’t they pro-Non-State sociopolitical typology?

    Would they rather have more material stuff than freedom?

    More, more, mooooaaaaarrrrrr!

    Those who would give up Essential Liberty, to purchase a little Temporary Material Stuff, deserve neither Liberty nor Material Stuff.

    1. How much stuff do YOU own?

    2. White injun; insane or obnoxious?

      A: Both

    3. Yeah, let’s all live like White Injun – he doesn’t even have a computer! He’s off the grid! Back to nature!

  15. Question: Are materialist-oriented propertarians brain-damaged babies from industrial birth model, seeking their materialist security blanket?

    Joseph Chilton Pearce in his study of childhood psychology, Magical Child, points out certain stage-specific actions that are carried out during the birthing process. The periodic contractions of the vaginal canal massage and enliven the peripheral nerve endings in the skin of the baby who is emerging from a fluid environment of nearly 100 degree heat. The periodic contractions also begin compressing the chest, beginning the breathing action that is soon to come. As the baby emerges from the vaginal canal, it is grasped by the mother and put to her chest where it can again hear the heart beat that it has known for nine months. At this point the mother looks into the baby’s eyes (Pearce says this is extremely important in the bonding process). As the mother looks into the eyes of the child she begins stroking the baby which further activates the nerve endings of the skin. At some safe point after this, the umbilical cord is cut and the mother presses the baby to her nipple. The chemistry of the mother’s milk is stage specific and it changes as the baby grows through the biological stages until weaning.

    Birthing is one of the great transformations of life and to help generate the vigor to survive this experience the common blood supply of the mother and child produce a stress hormone, cortisol. Pearce feels that drinking the mother’s milk just after birth helps the body of the infant eliminate this substance so that it becomes calm.
    The process of bonding of mother and child is exemplified by the old story of the baby duck that bonds to the first thing that it perceives after coming out of its shell. Humorous stories are told of the baby duck that bonds with the family dog, people and other animals. The process of bonding is as fundamental as the bonding of proton and electron. The process of bonding happens on many levels and in subtle ways. An important kind of bonding is for living things to be bonded with their home, the living earth and cosmos. Bonding is a positive psychological relationship that provides a sense of self and the security of being at “home.”

    Janov, Pearce and many others think that the brief sequence of bonding during birthing is one of the most important in an individual’s life. It is this sequence that produces the proper bond between mother and child. It is at this initial point of the sequence of bondings, beginning with the mother and then radiating out to include the earth, that the subconscious tenor of the child is imprinted for the balance of its life. In the modern medical setting the infant may be subjected to the stress of a cesarean operation where there is no birthing sequence or alternatively the infant’s first contact with the outside world may be the drugs carried to it from the mother through the placental wall. The chances are good that the infant will feel the metal of the forceps around its head, pulling it out of the mother. The infant will be held up, swatted to begin the breathing and then handed to a nurse for deposit on a cold metal scale. The baby is then deposited alone in the sterility of the maternity ward.

    That the few moments in which all of this takes place can make such a substantial difference in one’s whole life is shown by a discovery made in Uganda. Joseph Chilton Pearce relates that Marcelle Gerber who was doing research for the United Nations Children’s Fund in Uganda discovered what the researchers considered “genius” babies:

    “She found the most precocious, brilliant, and advanced infants and children ever observed anywhere. These infants had smiled, continuously and rapturously, from, at the latest, their fourth day of life. Blood analyses showed that all the adrenal steroids connected with birth stress were totally absent by that fourth day after birth. Sensorimotor learning and general development was phenomenal, indeed miraculous. These Ugandan infants were months ahead of American or European children.”3

    After causing a stir among child development specialists it was discovered that there were some babies in Uganda whose development resembled that of industrial medicine countries. These babies they found in the few hospitals in Uganda:

    “Gerber found that they did not smile until some two and a half months after birth. Nor were they precocious in any sense. They showed no signs of Sensorimotor learning, displayed no uncanny intelligence for some two and a half months, at which point some signs of intelligence were apparent. Blood analyses showed that high levels of adrenal steroids connected with birth stress were still prevalent at two and a half months. These infants slept massively, cried when awake, were irritable and colicky, frail and helpless. So the issue was not in some racial predisposition toward early intellectual growth. The issue lay solely with what happens to the newborn infant in hospitals.”4

    Birth trauma and the failure of bonding are serious matters to the future life of the baby. Such a simple thing as cutting the umbilical cord too quickly in the modern assembly-line hospital setting causes irreparable harm by causing brain lesions- minor strokes, which are referred to as anoxia. Newell Kephart, Director of the Achievement Center for Children at Purdue University, says that 15 to 20 percent of all children examined had learning and behavior problems resulting from minor undetected brain injury. Others say that 20 to 40 percent of the school population are handicapped by learning problems that may be related to neurological impairments at birth.5

    Pearce in his study Magical Child, tells of the tests done by medical doctor William F. Windle. Windle became doubtful about the birthing methods of industrial medicine and created a test with monkeys, (who normally need no help giving birth). Windle took a number of pregnant monkeys and subjected them to the normal hospital birthing methods, including drugs, anesthesia, forceps and the cutting of the umbilical cord in the usual time he had seen it done in hospitals.

    He found that because of the drugs and anesthesia the baby monkeys could not breathe and needed the artificial resuscitation that hospitals customarily use. Instead of clinging to the mother shortly after emergence, Windle’s monkey babies were helpless and could not perform this task. In fact they could not cling to their mothers for several weeks.

    Later Windle autopsied the infants that had died during birth or whom did not live full term. He found severe brain lesions in every case from the anoxia at birth. Later he autopsied the monkeys who lived to adulthood and found that they also had brain lesions. Windle later autopsied human babies that had died during birth or shortly after and found that they had brain lesions similar to the monkeys in his tests.

    Brain lesions are not the only effect of modern birthing methods. The imprints of the birth trauma itself are often severe. The mass institution of modern industrially based medicine, with its vast array of expensive machinery and industrially produced drugs seems to produce results consonant with the quality of civilization itself- mechanicalness, unfeelingness and human alienation. Instead of the warm comfort of the mother, the infant is treated as an object, slapped by a stranger and taken away by another stranger into a nursery where it is put into a crib. It is at this point that civilized people often bond to material objects, namely, the security blanket. Pearce asks, “What is the great learning? What is being built into the very fibers of that mind-brain-body system as the initial experiences of life?” It is that, “Encounters with people are causes of severe, unbroken, unrelenting stress, and that stress finds its only reduction through contact with material objects.”6

    The Final Empire: The Collapse of Civilization and the Seed of the Future
    William H. K?tke
    http://www.rainbowbody.net/Finalempire/

    1. tl;dr. stfu white trash.

      1. “The question isn’t who is going to let me, it’s who is going to stop me.”

        1. …a great quote. Would that more people lived that philosophy.

          1. Regarding expression of opinions, you’re correct.

            Regarding murdering and dismembering little girls, Mother Earth via agricultural City-STATISM, (as Rand meant it) not so much.

            1. Yeah, follow the Injuns lead….

              “The Justice Department found that one in three Native American women will be raped in her lifetime.”

              http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..d=12203114

              1. *snicker*

              2. Which “Native Americans” are living in a Non-State sociopolitical typology?

                None? I thought so.

                They were forced with guns into concentration camps by a rape culture.* I’m not surprised by the consequences.

                25 Facts About Rape in America
                http://msmagazine.com/blog/blo…..n-america/

                1. …is responsible for that. Get over it.

                  1. Same system. Same values. Same violence to enforce the occupation.

                    Keep sticking your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.

                    They Thought They Were Free: The City-Statists, 4000 B.C.E – 2011 C.E.

                    (The Germans in 1933-1945 being just a small example of your agricultural City-STATE’s behavior.)

                    1. Keep living in your fantasy. anthropoligical evidence has also shown pre-city state man to be just a violent and prone to rape as todays modern man.

    2. My ex had four children at home, and not even a midwife (because her husband was fucking insane).

      Two of them wound up being just as insane ans HE was, and one has a learning disability.

      OUR kid, however, is fine. Not a thing wrong with him.

      So… bullshit, WI.

      1. anecdotal account = bullshit

        1. …call me a liar, fucktard.

  16. “Encounters with people are causes of severe, unbroken, unrelenting stress, and that stress finds its only reduction through contact with material objects.”

    1. …you DID get rid of all YOUR material objects… right?

        1. …you don’t get to bitch like you do while only giving up “most” of your possessions.

          Divest of *everything* you own, or continue to be a fucking hypocrite. Your choice, Slick.

  17. Why is gun violence is so high in the United States?

    gun-related deaths-per-year
    ? United States – 11,127 (3.601/100,000)
    ? Germany ? 381 (0.466/100,000)
    ? France ? 255 (0.389/100,000)
    ? Canada ? 165 (0.484/100,000)
    ? United Kingdom ? 68 (0.109/100,000)
    ? Australia ? 65 (0.292/100,000)
    ? Japan ? 39 (0.030/100,000)

    Gun-related homicide rates in the United States are twenty to thirty-five times higher than they are in countries that are economically and politically similar to it.

    Why?

    1. Better shots?

    2. Drug war, that’s why.

      1. Weird how those countries listed have a drug war going too. Or do you think you can waltz into a bar in Australia (12x fewer gun deaths) and buy a kilo?

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_of_drugs

        1. Cause my babies ain’t got no daddies!

    3. plays into it, WI.

    4. Because this is a free country and we report our gun-related deaths and don’t cover them up the way other countries do. These kinds of statistics are made for liars by liars. It’s just like the fake infant mortality rates all the social democracies put out where they don’t count late-term abortions and premature births below a certain weight as deaths, when we do. There are more violent deaths a day in London than there were in New Orleans before the wrath of God hit that town.

    5. I’ve always found the term “gun related deaths” extremely fishy. Its never “murders committed with guns,” just “gun related deaths.”

      Almost as if they wanted to include all the would-be rapists, murderers, child molesters, car jackers, burglars, home invaders, or anyone else killed in self defense. In countries where guns are legal, “gun related deaths” will be larger, because the average citizen can fight back.

      How about you explain the rise in rape, robbery, assault, home invasion, and violent crime since they banned guns in England?

    6. Because most of those countries restrict the ability of their citizens to carry firearms.

      If someone is going to commit violence, their method of choice is not going to effect their decision to do so.

    7. with freedoms comes responsibilities. Is a ‘gun-related’ death tragic? Yes. But it is also part of the cost of having the right to bear arms.

    8. Guns are for wimps. We use Hattori Hanz? steel.

    9. Nice picking and choosing of statistics. Luxemborg, which has gun control, has a higher homocide rate tha the US. Switzerland, which has no gun control, has a lower murder rate than any of the nations you have submitted for comparisson. Let’s not forget that when considering a nation like Japan, and factoring in the suicide rate. The deaths per 100,000 individuals are virtually identical between the US and Japan. This is reason, bring your A game or get the fuck out.

  18. I fail to see the significance of whether Obama approves of the American Public or not. Actually, I never read the article because once I saw the hellacious grammatical error up front, I assumed the author had the education of a monkey.

    1. Oh, I see it actually is satire. My bad.

      1. Obama spoofed himself? Cool.

      2. You, go eat your brussel sprouts.

  19. …how much stuff do you own?

    Fucking hypocrite.

    1. How many taxes did you pay last year? SS? Medicare? Get any mail today? Go to a public school? Got a weather radio? Spend any of those pieces of paper from the US Treasury? Hypocrite.

      1. …one claiming that property ownership is immoral, or that ownership of material goods is also immoral… whereas YOU, while using a computer and probably doing all the things you berate ME for, claim some high ground.

        Fuck. You. White. Indian.

        1. “…whereas YOU,…”
          Using logic in response to this imbecile is a waste of time. All you get in return is some sort of ‘insult’. If it sort of makes sense, that’s purely accidental; outright lies and distortions are more common.

      2. This guy has to be a parody. Are their people really like him? No wonder we’re heading off a cliff.

        And, really, is there anything as foolish as calling yourself “white indian”? Noble savage, eh? Oh, to be you and have the curse of whiteness when deep down you’re red.

        Wow. Just wow.

  20. Aw, this was a really great post. In theory I’d like to write like this also ? taking time and real effort to make a good article? but what can I say? I procrastinate alot and never seem to get something done.

  21. TO: All
    RE: Heh

    Bush the Lesser could have said…..

    Apres Moi, le deluge!

    Regards,

    Chuck(le)
    [Gird up your loins….]

    1. P.S. Please pardon my ‘French’…..

  22. TO: All
    RE: It’s ‘Interesting;…..

    ….reading some of the comments here.

    I’m reminded of the horrible state of the ‘state’ Israel, as reported by Josephus in his account of the Wars of the Jews, in which, 40 years after they killed the most innocent Man to walk the face of the Earth, their nation was utterly whipped off the face of this planet.

    Now, 38 years after Roe v. Wade, wherein we murder the most innocent of US BY THE MILLIONS,, I see the same sort of madness occurring amongst US.

    Regards,

    Chuck(le)
    [May you live in ‘interesting’ times. — Ancient Chinese curse]

    1. Jesus convinced a mob to nullify the execution of a woman for violating God’s law, and he’s a good guy.

      The state stops encouraging this, and God is going to punish us?

      Do you understand anything about Christianity?

      1. TO: tarran…and other of his ilk
        RE: Understanding Christianity

        Do you understand anything about Christianity? — tarran

        Based on your comment, I suspect much more about Christianity than YOU.

        Care to join my church’s Friday Morning Bible Study Group? Two retired ministers and several lay-people.

        0645 hrs, Mountain Time. You can call-in.

        If you’re interested, I’ll set up the conference call. Just reply in the ‘affirmative’ to this comment with your e-mail address and we’ll configure the system accordingly.

        Regards,

        Chuck(le)
        [A difference in philosophy is not a disaster. It’s an opportunity.]

    2. Right, well, the Romans actually killed Jesus, if you buy into the stories/history of the matter.

      But, hey! Don’t let your own bible stories sway your argument any. Because, you know, thought is not your strong point and would probably hurt the three brain cells you have left.

      1. TO: BrendaK
        RE: It was the Romans!!!!

        True. The Romans ‘pulled the trigger’. But the state of Israel/Judah set it up, vis-a-vis the Sanhedrin.

        If the Hebrew ‘government’ hadn’t dragged Christ before the Roman governor, the murder….as prophesied….wouldn’t have been committed.

        On the other hand….

        ….if it had NOT been committed, we’d STILL have been in our sorry state.

        On the third hand….

        ….as it was accomplished, oddly enough….for those of us who appreciate it….we are far more the better for it.

        Regards,

        Chuck(le)
        [God may be subtle, but He is not just plain mean.]

        1. P.S. Funny that you should mention ‘thought’ and ‘brain cells’….

          ….show me your Mensa membership number and I’ll call you ‘Sis'(?)

  23. The Solution
    Bertolt Brecht

    After the uprising of the 17th June
    The Secretary of the Writer’s Union
    Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
    Stating that the people
    Had forfeited the confidence of the government
    And could win it back only
    By redoubled efforts.
    Would it not be easier
    In that case for the government
    To dissolve the people
    And elect another?

  24. Are you saying that Obama has a low opinion of the American people? [“Obama’s approval rating of the American public has fallen to an all-time low”]

    Or that our opinion of Obama has fallen?

    Better editing, please.

    1. Uh, RTA. It’s a satire.
      And it must be a good one, since so many have missed it.
      Have you read “A Modest Proposal”?

  25. Is Hinkle AKA Zombie?

  26. TO: All
    RE: Back ‘On-Topic’….

    ….so to say….

    A. BARTON HINKLE: Obama’s approval of the American public slips to an all-time low. Unlike the American public’s regard for him, it was never that high. But like the American public’s regard for him, it’s likely to drop further over the coming year. . . . — Glenn Reynolds….professor of Constitutional Law at University of Tennessee….a.k.a. the Blog Father

    Yes. Indeed. What will the Man who has EVERYTHING ‘do’ to maintain his current course and personal integrity in the face of absolute rejection by the people who were stupid enough to elect him to the highest office in the Land?

    Three gueses…..

    ….first two don’t count.

    Regards,

    Chuck(le)
    [Gird up your loins…..]

  27. This is like a text edition of “Friday ‘Funnies'”, right?

  28. While I do not want to sound overly negative about the birth of a new nation, I have severe doubts about peace and stability in Sudan and South Sudan. Remember, one of the newly appointed ambassadors to the region helped write the peace accord al-Basher has been violating since 2005.

    http://msmignoresit.blogspot.c…..s.html?m=1

  29. Actually, I’m pretty disappointed with the majority of Americans, too. They voted in the Progressive bastard.

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