Environmental Working Group's "Dirty Dozen" Scaremongering Exposed
The Environmental Working Group (EWG) lobbyists issue the "Dirty Dozen" list each year warning consumers which fruits and vegetables they should avoid because they are allegedly contaminated with dangerous amounts of pesticide residues. EWG promises:
The Shopper's Guide to Pesticide in Produce will help you determine which fruits and vegetables have the most pesticide residues and are the most important to buy organic. You can lower your pesticide intake substantially by avoiding the 12 most contaminated fruits and vegetables and eating the least contaminated produce.
A new study published in the Journal of Toxicology by researchers at the University of California, Davis, says that EWG's list amounts to bogus scaremongering. The researchers find that EWG's analysis is scientifically bunk. The highest level of pesticide residue was found on bell peppers. Should consumers worry? Not at all. As the researchers point out:
The highest relative exposure for a pesticide/commodity combination was for the organophosphate insecticide methamidophos on bell peppers. The RfD [chronic reference doses] for methamidophos was still 49.5 times higher than the exposure estimate, indicating a large measure of consumer protection…. an exposure of 49.5 times lower than the RfD still represents an exposure 49,500 times lower than exposures to methamidophos in laboratory animals that still have not resulted in any adverse health effects.
Note that the chronic reference dose (RfD) represents an estimate of the amount of a chemical a person could be exposed to on a daily basis throughout the person's lifetime that is likely to be without an appreciable risk of harm. In other words, in the worst case scenario in which a person eats "contaminated" bell peppers every day for the rest of his or her life, he or she would not be exposed to an amount of pesticide residue that would plausibly harm his or her health.
The bottom line of the study is:
It is concluded that (1) exposures to the most commonly detected pesticides on the twelve commodities pose negligible risks to consumers, (2) substitution of organic forms of the twelve commodities for conventional forms does not result in any appreciable reduction of consumer risks, and (3) the methodology used by the environmental advocacy group to rank commodities with respect to pesticide risks lacks scientific credibility.
The scientifically honest thing to do would be for EWG to stop misleading consumers and take down its phony list.
Hat tip Raymond Eckhart.
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Dammit! I knew I shouldn't be eating 50,000 servings of peppers daily.
That would explain your flatulence.
And why he screams so loudly every time he goes to the bathroom.
Traumatically painful BM's and social death gas clouds are one thing. But now that I know about the cancer, I'm going back to eating 65,000 cherry servings a day.
Nooo! Ya think???
Wha... What??? That's calumny! Balderdash! It is not scientifically bunk! It is pseudo-scientific bunk!
Adverb instead of adjective. Where is The Truth hiding? Sheesh!
But there's a consensus!
Huh? Is somebody calling me? I typically spend my summers up China's bunghole, if you must know.
Not until Climate Change freezes over!
Please. As I recommended before, you need to use an anagram to avoid enraging those who, um, get enraged. Here are some optimized selections:
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Mecca Ale Night + Lactic Ham Gene = Quite a party.
It's telling that it transforms to Mecca Ale Night. Doubtlessly a CIA plot in the WoT.
The sound of "Mecca Ale Night" will verily radicalize more of 'em (Insult to teetotaling Islam), giving us more enemies, leading to a larger Do"D" budget ... I feel safer already!
I am so using Mecca Ale Night for my next BBQ party.
The Magic Clean
Is this today's "Cop Shoots Dog" story?
Too early to tell.
We should always err on the side of corporate profits instead of public safety.
Apparently, that's what the Environmental Working Group (which is a corporation, which uses these little alarums to raise money) thinks as well.
I'm trying to limit myself to just one response, with no back-and-forth.
It's tough man. I can't just go cold turkey.
Don't feed the sockpuppet: Grief from boredom always follows.
It's so good that you've realized this, OM.
Re: Episiarch,
Took me a while, Epi, but I finally saw the light.
We should always err on the side of corporate profits (as long as the corporation sells organic vegetables) instead of public safety (so let's ignore the fact that they cause a much higher rate of E. coli infection).
Republicans Have Shallow, Pointless Debate
Libertarians honor the absurdity with a six-hour circle jerk.
Nothing else happens.
http://reason.com/blog/2011/08.....m#comments
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Re: Another Isolated Incident,
What is it, honey? Did your lovey-dovey police force kill too many innocents these past weeks to show your face to gloat?
No price in civilian lives is too high to pay to ensure the safety of our brave brothers in blue.
Hat tip Raymond Eckhart.
Any relation to Meister?
I'd like to think so, but not to my knowledge. I'm rather unfamiliar with Christian Mysticism. Last person to ask me that was Mike Potemra at NRO, FWIW. I came across the link via a post at the Garden Professors by Dr. Jeff Gillman.
https://sharepoint.cahnrs.wsu.edu/blogs/urbanhort/archive/2011/08/11/so-how-much-pesticide-is-actually-in-our-fruits-and-veggies.aspx
I personally can't stand bell peppers, so anything that discourages their use is okay with me...
What? I'm not in love with green peppers by themselves, but red, yellow, orange, purple? All groovy.
Yellow and orange ... om nom.
"Beware the pepper green, for he is the devil's vegetable. Alone among God's peppers, he ruins Cajun food and crudit? platters. Yea, he will murder his red brother to possess his sweetness. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his garden and yours. Shun him. Drive him back into his garden lair, for he is the harbinger of death."
And the seeds get everywhere when you cut him up.
Sink.
Cut around the calyx and pull the top off like a Halloween pumpkin. What seeds fall off the placenta into the bottom of the pepper during extraction can be shaken out into the trash.
Green pepper gets what it deserves
Apes don't like peppers.
Yes they do, ProL. They just don't understand them.
Really, that may be my favorite movie insult moment ever.
I'm disappointed, ProL!
Disappointed!
If Kevin Kline had simply moved to television to play Otto in an eponymous series immediately after A Fish Called Wanda, it would still be on the air, and it would still be awesome.
It's K-K-K-Ken!!!
He's c-c-c-coming to k-k-kill me!!
Uh, wait a minute...
There's no reason at all to think that a man who survived being run over by a steamroller was killed falling off of a plane taking off. None.
Toss some sliced red bell peppers with plenty of olive oil, salt and pepper, roast in the oven, turning occasionally, then get back to me.
Also, bell peppers are simply chilli peppers without the capsicum, and anyone who can't stand chillis is, well, words fail me...
The word pussy comes to mind.
Well considering my wife whips my ass when it comes to extremely spicey food (and I grew up in New Mexico) I'm not sure that's the best term. Plus it's not just the capsicum, it's the flavor. Otherwise just use Tabasco sauce or some cheap variant.
pussy 😉
pussy 😉
oops
Squirrels must be a little randy today.
Yes
Yes
??You grew up in NM and spell it "Chillis"??
At least I can spell new and mexican.
If I remember correctly, I remember that Neu explained that he Gallicized his home State's name for his nick... Or something.
He's thus a French-luver!
OM:
Einstruzende Neubauten fan from NM...used an archaic spelling of Mexico since I have a "j" name...English ending since Yo Soy un Gringo.
PS - still, Chilli peppers ain't chile.
PS...have you tried fresnos? They're sweet like red bell peppers but have some heat.
I love them all depending on the circumstance.
Andrew Weil is on their home page. 'Nuff said.
If there was the tiniest--the tiniest--bit of evidence that eating organic was actually better, it would be shouted from the rooftops endlessly by the retards who think organic is better and that we're all eating poisons. Since there isn't--isn't any--such evidence, lying is this cult's only recourse.
That alone is enough to tell you it's all a load of shit. Nothing else is needed.
organic food is the homeopathy of the 21st century. No matter what anyone says, nor the scienctific evidence will convince these people now nor in a hundred years.
I thought homeopathy was the homeopathy of the 21st century.
that was the 20th century
Pardon me officer, but is that organic pepper spray you're applying to my eyeballs?
Thread winna.
I can't believe you were all so easily taken in by a study obviously commissioned by Big Toxin.
Big Toxin, great rapper persona.
Is it true that the Koch brothers own a huge interest in the pesticide companies? And have given money to that university in the past? 🙂
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Why is Bailey fearmongering on this topic? Maybe some of us like wormy vegetables. For the protein.
So the EWC is like the SPLC of gardening?
Yes.
They do provide this handy meat eater's guide. I'm planning to substitute lamb for my usual beef tonight in order to increase my carbon footprint.
And believe me, it's going to be way more than 4 wimpy ounces.
where's Soy milk? Organics love Soy milk.
Tofu is, surprisingly, fifth down. I guess they didn't want to make it too obvious.
I have lamb in the freezer already. Lucky me.
The longer it has been kept at an artificially low temperature using technology and fossil fuels, the better.
Unless it's an iFreezer, that makes it OK.
hilarious
So what are non-organic vegetables make of?
Metal?
Stone?
Here in Europe bio is the preferred label, same question, what are none living vegetables made of?
Could you point me to the inorganic aisle please?
I'm sick of all this carbon based food.
Even worse is the term, "natural." Unless you're eating undead ectoplasm, it's hard to find unnatural food.
Follow Zimmer around for a day and you'll see some pretty unnatural food.
I don't want any food that's been genetically modified, unless it was genetically modified by neolithic farmers and animal-husbanders.
unless it was genetically modified by neolithic farmers and animal-husbanders
Noble savages, blah blah blah
I have a cunning plan. Take some Neanderthal DNA and breed some Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. Train them to genetically modify food using modern methods, then market the food as being developed by cavemen.
Racist!!!!
Weren't these ejits the same ones who told us that cell phones could melt your brain? Luckily my hometown, SF, has passed a regulation that all cell phones sold in the City have to have the amount of radiation they emit posted on the outside packaging. Never mind that this info is already usually in the literature that comes with the phone.
I think they want to ban wifi in schools
I eat lead.
It's 100% natural.
Salmonella - natural and organic!
Salmonella is also compatible with raw food and paleo diets.
The scientifically honest thing to do would be for EWG to stop misleading consumers and take down its phony list.
Or to publish their methodology, include appropriate caveats about the relative risks, and let people do what they want with the information.
(they minimally meet this standard and say repeatedly that exposure risks are low...but include lots of "unknown" therefore scary language - seems like much ado about nothing on both sides).
"seems like much ado about nothing on both sides"
Translated:
'I can't find anything to gripe about, so I'll make up some false-equivalence and claim neutrality'
Yes, Neu, lying about threats is more than "nothing".
Re: sevo:
Goooooooooooooal!!!!
sevo bad translator.
OM low standards.
Ron Bailey - Or I can read all about their methods on their website. What's your point?
Like I said, much ado about not much. People believe what they believe...advocates advocate.
The scientifically honest thing to do would be for EWG to stop misleading consumers and take down its phony list.
Where are the calls to have Wattsupwiththat take their stuff down? The point being, as long as they are up front about what they are doing (which they are), there is nothing dishonest in their pointless list. The underlying premise that Ron is handing ya'll is that consumers are too stupid to tell the difference between good information and bad information. They are vulnerable to being "misled" on this issue by folks with an agenda. Ironic in so many ways.
NM: And while we wait for EWG to follow your suggestion, you can read all about the EWG "methodology" in the Journal of Toxicology article to which I linked.
That wasn't the Friday nut punch I was expecting.
But I like it.
Ron Bailey: the honest thing to do would be to note that the methodology described in the article came directly from those published by EWG on their website. The Journal article doesn't unearth some hidden information. All they do is provide a criticism. But, of course, their critique is directed at a flaw that EWG acknowledges up front in their publication. Again...much ado about not much. But nice try.
Environmentalist lying? That's umpossible.
Science is bad except when it's proving that we don't have to pay for cancer treatment of 9/11 victims!
15% of the dry weight of all plants are pesticides and herbicides.
This shit is dropping in our rivers and lakes everyday!!!
Kill the plants before they kill us!!!
thanks