"Jackass" Alumnus Ryan Dunn Dies From Something Unrelated to Poop, Alligators, or Skateboarding Without a Helmet
After more than a decade of shoving hostile objects in his rectum, antagonizing dangerous wildlife, handling strangers' fecal matter, and otherwise giving the finger to America's public health establishment, Ryan Dunn, a founding member of "Jackass" and the CKY (Camp Kill Yourself) Crew, died last night in a car crash outside Philadelphia.
Dunn, along with cohorts Bam Margera, Johnny Knoxville, Steve-O, and a slew of other mischief makers, inspired some truly epic hand-wringing when "Jackass" first aired on MTV in 2000:
A handful of incidents in which youngsters have injured themselves or their friends imitating stunts they saw on television is a powerful reminder of the effect media can have on children, according to pediatricians and psychologists.
Since the music video channel MTV began airing a program in which a young man carries out absurd stunts that in any adult's mind would earn him the show's title, Jackass, a half-dozen youngsters have suffered serious injuries while — they said — repeating what they saw on television.
"It's cumulative," said Dr. Michael Rich, who serves on the Committee for Public Education of the American Academy of Pediatricians. "It's a stalagmite process, drip, drip, drip and then you get something big. It's a major sea change when you look at the whole population."
Most children are unable to sift through the images presented in media, psychologists say, and are particularly vulnerable to the suggestions in images that are close to their own lives.
In the case of a show like Jackass, children who feel starved for attention or the recognition of their peers see a chance to get it, and many simply are not yet sophisticated enough to understand that the stunts are not being held up for praise but for scorn, experts say.
(Unlike the stunts in, say, football, which are "held up" for praise even when participants leave the sport brain-damaged and suicidal.)
According to a picture Dunn posted hours before the crash, it wasn't stunting that killed him, but booze. It appears he was drinking heavily before climbing behind the wheel of what Jalopnik speculates was a Porsche 997 GT3.
Incidentally, this is probably the only dangerous activity that the "Jackass" crew never endorsed on their show.
RIP.
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As far as I know, none of the stunts on Jackass ever endangered non-participants. That's the main difference between the show's hijinks and what killed Dunn.
Except that this was a one-car accident. The passenger must of known that he was drunk. So they only endangered themselves.
Just because others didn't get hurt didn't mean they weren't endangered.
exactly. unless they were on a roadway only open to them (doubtful), it was an act that potentially affected others. analogize to shooting a gun w.o a backstop and where there are other people in the vicinity. just because nobody got hit that time doesn't make it a self regarding act
Yeah. Some "libertarians" believe that irresponsible and dangerous behavior is never a societal concern unless someone is actually harmed (after the fact). If you dump a barrel of toxic waste into a river and no one is sickened, is it OK? If someone else does the same thing a week later and five people are sickened, is it OK then?
By that logic no one should ever be allowed to drive a car under any circumstances. Yeah millions of people drive cars every day without harming someone but the vast majority of people who drive intoxicated harm no one either. If were going to arrest people because they are statistically more likely to harm someone then we need a lot of new laws.
And what is "attempted murder", anyway? Do they give a Nobel Prize for "attempted chemistry"?
Attempted murder requires intent to you know, murder. Drunk drivers intend to get to wherever they are driving their cars to.
for fuck's sake. driving a car is an unnatural and dangerous activity. period. you are hurtling a heavy object at high rates of speed, with people inside. we have, through technology (both the vehicle and the roadways) managed to make it remarkably safe(r), all things considered, but it's still the #1 cause of death/grievous injury for the young, and the highest cause of accidental death
society has every right, heck has a duty, to establish laws that are strict in regards to how one goes about it
we most definitely can and should arrest people if they are statistically more likely to harm someone, as long as said behavior is not constitutionally protected (driving is not a right), and said laws are not overly vague (.08 aint vague. it's exact) or obscure.
it's really fucking simple. DON'T drive with a BAC of .08 or above. period.
there is no constitutional (or plain common sense right) to do so. if a practiced alcoholic, you may be relatively safe compared to a teetotaler at a .08. good for you. it's still perfectly reasonable to set a bright line limit
your argument is the kind of funhouse mirror libertarianism that does a disservice to the cause of libertarianism
our society is FAR safer due to aggressive DUI enforcement (thanks, MADD) and DUI has the singular advantage of also being the only law I am aware of where you have near foolproof defense against false conviction (contrast with assault, murder, robbery, burglary, etc. where you don't)
The witness they referred to said that he had six drinks over the course of four hours. That's not enough for most men to be impaired. I'm not going to assume he was drunk before they do the toxicology.
nor am i, although i have no idea what "drinks" he had. generally speaking, most "drinks" have roughly the same amount of alcohol (glass o wine, beer, mixed drink) but some are stiffer than others, obviously
MSNBC says "speed may have been a factor".
If he was either speeding or not wearing a seatbelt, we can be sure that the nannies will use this as an "I told you so" example.
In their defense, I'm guessing if the car were still parked he wouldn't have died, so they're probably right.
Oh, I thought they meant methamphetamine.
You need to wait for the tox screen...
Call me crazy...but seeing all of those jackass and CKY stunts made me not want to do any of them. They looked really painful. And I was in the "mind-moldable youth danger zone" of 16ish when these shows were at the height of their popularity.
THIS. It allowed me to vicariously live out their crazy stunts and go on to be a successful (if repressed within the community) scientist.
I like to watch boxing but it certainly hasn't made me want to get in the ring with Manny Pacquiao.
Holy crap! The link says he was going 110mph. I'm guessing it was a lot faster than that. Those Porches are built to survive high-speed crashes and that car is shredded.
I was about to tell you that disintegrating is exactly what the car is supposed to do, and it means the car is doing its job by crushing itself to keep you safe in an accident. Then I saw the pictures...holy shit.
That isn't even recognizable as a car anymore. The passenger compartment (which should stay relatively intact in even a high-speed collision) is warped like a potato chip. I think you are right, it was probably more than 110mph.
You don't need a lot of speed to shred a car when you hit a tree.
Depends on how fast the tree is going.
In British Columbia, that can be up to 70 mph.
I have consistently pushed for tougher tree-licensing.
At least the Canadian trees have health insurance.
And they're full of octopi to eat while you're stuck in the wreckage, provided you survive the wreck.
Plus the car exploded.
"The Porsche shot through about 40 yards of trees before it hit the last one and exploded into flames, according to police."
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com.....84189.html
See? This is how I want to go, just before old age, disease and/or senility takes me to the hunched over, drooling stage.
Leave big.
My grandfather used to say he expected to get shot in the back at the age of 93 by a jealous husband.
Oh, if I'm upright and have all my marbles at 93, I'll take that.
But working around a high-density elderly population for the past decade, even as wealthy as these people are are, has taken the shine off of the warning that doing X "will take years off of your life."
Have you seen those last few years? No thanks. I'd rather go out, spectacularly, on my own terms, when the time comes. They should sing songs of your death, not whisper about it uncomfortably.
quality of death is important. seems like folks nowadays look forward to adult diapers, alzheimers, & bizarre infections which cant be healed
But working around a high-density elderly population for the past decade, even as wealthy as these people are are, has taken the shine off of the warning that doing X "will take years off of your life."
Here's the logical fallacy with such an argument. Sure, you might not be that excited about the last few years of your life, but you're assuming that doing X will lop off those sucky years without impacting the earlier ones. I think it's more likely that negative lifestyle choices will simply shift everything forward (or compact them) so you're not just losing the crappy years at the end of your life but some productive ones as well.
Of course, that doesn't address whether X will actually harm you, or whether the enjoyment you get from X still outweighs the negative health risks.
ok so blow ur brains out after u get cancer from smoking. still beats a drugged nursing home existence suffering miseries till death.
Of course, that doesn't address whether X will actually harm you, or whether the enjoyment you get from X still outweighs the negative health risks.
Exactly. It all boils down to that I'd rather have 70 good years, than 80 or 90 mediocre years. But more importantly, no slow and painful death, nor years as an invalid before that.
I just hope I have the balls to take matters into my own hands when the time comes.
"My grandfather used to say he expected to get shot in the back at the age of 93 by a jealous husband."
I think every old dude must steal this line from other old dudes. I feel like I've heard it a gazillion times at this point.
There is this variant: I want to be shot by a jealous uncle while fleeing a teenager's bedroom.
Why would the uncle be jealous? Do you live in West Virginia?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo4Y0TxW41g
It says he went through 40 yards of trees before hitting one and exploding.
I'm putting the blame on an opposum. They're all over yhe road at night in PA.
110 mph works out to be about 50 yards per second.
So 40 yards didn't take long.
Note that the one he exploded on was the last one, implying that he hit others along the way. He probably wasn't going 110 after hitting the first one.
I bet he didn't have his seatbelt on and got thrown from the vehicle. If he just rolled it, those cars are built so well he probably survives.
That said, a really high performance car, even one like a Porsche which is built so damned well, also take a lot of skill to drive. They are scary fast. As fast as some motorcycle. To get behind the wheel of a car like that drunk and do 110 in it goes beyond being a jackass. That is just suicidal.
One reason why I sold my last muscle-car, it was getting too damned dangerous to drive. When it rained, it really took some concentration to keep on the road.
They give you this feeling of "you make a mistake and I will kill you".
dodge viper is notorious for being exceedingly unforgiving
That's why I always drive the subcompacts in Gran Turismo.
They give you this feeling of "you make a mistake and I will kill you".
If we want people to drive safely, i think all cars need to have this effect. I get it from operating powersaws and other dangerous devices that are much smaller than cars. Still got all my fingers/toes/eyes.
Fear works, that's why people use it.
oh, and another vote for the tiny cars in Gran Tourismo. WOOOOOOOOO, talk about fun.
like earnhardt sr said "u can always lift".
The 911 turbos/gt3s etc are notoriously difficult to drive, even for a supercar and even with traction control. The rear engine design has been outdated for decades and will really bite you hard if you slip up even a little. Bad, bad car to drink and drive in.
Not that they're even close to the same performance level as a Porsche 911, but Pontiac Fieros are the same way. It's common to put Cadillac V8 engines (or supercharged V6s from GTPs, etc.) in Fieros and they become scary fast and very unforgiving in rain/snow.
They are very difficult to drive at their limits. Below the limits of grip, they are easy.
I have driven a rear-wheel-drive 911 at 110 down a country road (sober and during the day). It was like driving an SUV down the same road at 30. The car was not anywhere near its limits.
I'm guessing he was closer to 150 when he lost it.
That sucks. The guy does crazy shit for a living and goes out in a car crash instead.
Sounds like this particular car crash was just another aspect of his "crazy shit". I suppose he didn't get paid for it though.
Is he drinking a beer with a lime in it? I hope the last beer I consume here on earth is good enough that it doesn't need a lime.
Thank GOD I'm not the only twisted fuck who had that exact same thought upon seeing the picture.
Which is why you never drink a beer with a lime in it. Ever. Just in case.
And its in a plastic cup.
But he couldn't have had more than a few days, a week tops, left to live anyway. I believe that's a cigarette in his right hand.
I was wondering who the fuck drinks mixed drinks through a straw.
The lime/beer rule is certainly one worth living (or dying) by.
Beer connoisseurs are such bitches! 🙂
A GT3? Being a professional moron obviously pays pretty well.
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many simply are not yet sophisticated enough to understand that the stunts are not being held up for praise but for scorn, experts say.
Last Christmas, while watching the Nitro Circus marathon, it occurred to me that guys like this actually give me some degree of hope.
Obviously, there are still some people out there who haven't sold their souls to the "praise for no reason" and "everybody deserves a blue ribbon" mob.
As much as the "public health officials would like to believe differently, those guys really ARE saying, "You're a pathetic pussy, and I'm not."
Being a professional moron and being a banker (and yes, I realize the first likely describes the second) are some of the last good paying jobs available to Americans. Expect to hear of thousands applying to take his place.
I guess God needed another angel . . . to put a crash helmet on and launch headfirst into a dumpster full of scorpions.
Drink! Drink! Drink! Drink!
Well played, sir. But I volley this back to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoNSiG8Vync
What a shame for such an excellent beard and such an excellent car to be wasted.
Also,
The Porsche shot through about 40 yards of trees before it hit the last one and exploded into flames, according to police.
40 fucking yards? Holy shit.
Yeah, he really went out in style.
Yeah. If you're going to go out in a car accident, you might as well do it right. Exploding into flames is the cherry on top.
I got tired of high-speed drug rides when I was about 19. Cheers to this dude for endeavoring to persevere.
After I did an oversteer into a lawn (on purpose) and almost rolled after the turf built up in my wheels (the car literally was at 45 degrees and stayed there for a good second or two, deciding which way to go, until it dropped back down right side up), I decided to chill out. I was also 19.
Ah, I posted prematurely. This is where that post belongs.
You're smarter than I am. It took flipping a car the long way (and sliding across three lanes of traffic upside down) for me.
You know what's worse? I'd jumped (think Dukes of Hazard) from one level of a freeway to another (about six feet) a month before. (There was no barrier because of construction.)
Oh, and worst? No drugs or alcohol were involved in either incident.
Bet they wish they had caught that on video.
We can only hope he'll be greeted at the pearly gates by Ernie Kovacs.
yep +1 !
Dunn, along with cohorts Bam Margera, Johnny Knoxville, Steve-O, and a slew of other mischief makers, inspired some truly epic hand-wringing when "Jackass" first aired on MTV in 2000:
It's probably worth mentioning the show's ancestral roots in Big Brother magazine.
Dig:
http://vintageskateboardmagazines.com/big_brother_(usa).html
I once jumped off the roof of my house flapping my arms, hoping I'd be able to fly. I was drunk out of my fucking mind and broke my arm. Good thing I wasn't driving a high-performance sports car.
34? The guy looks more like 54. Hard living and hard dying is no way to go through life.
Maybe not for you. Some people might prefer to live their lives while their young enough to enjoy them instead of waiting around for 40 years after that to die of pneumonia or something.
Circle Jerks: Live Fast Die Young
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
See, that's what some insane rebel daredevil should be listening to, not that CKY shit-rock (full disclosure: until I watched the embedded video above I had never heard them before, so I suppose it's possible the rest of their music doesn't suck).
"must HAVE known"
try an English class once in a while
What's with the backhanded comment about football? Someone get picked last as a kid?
The same people who decry 'stunts' in Jackass as dangerous and irresponsible to show to impressionable youth have nothing to say about stunts that carry equal or greater risk of harm.
I'd add that some of the stunts attributed to Jackass were never performed on the show. There was some incidents where dumbasses below and well above the age of 18 were jumping on to the hood of a moving car and getting hurt. The police chief in one area said it was something they'd seen on Jackass. Problem is, Jackass hadn't done something like that, but there was a Sprite commercial that did.
Some kid sprayed a flammable liquid (hair spray I think) on his arm, lit it on fire and suffered pretty severe burns. Parents, Oprah all blamed Jackass. The evidence? An episode where one of the Jackass guys wraps himself in a fire retardant suit and is placed over open flames.
I couldn't see the connection.
It's amazing how kids never did stupid shit prior to the advent of TV.
It's amazing how no one ever reported on the stupid shit kids do prior to the advent of TV.
ftfy.
That is what we call natural selection. Why do these people hate evolution?
now there's a thought...
will his accident be posed on the "Darwin Awards" site...
Can we revisit the thread where certain H&R regulars accused other H&R regulars of being callous assholes for not treasuring every single human life on the planet? 'Cos I gotta tell you, this guy's fiery death means absolutely zero to me.
THAT MAKES YOU A TRULY DISGUSTING CREATURE
It's been established that Episiarch is history's second greatest monster because he doesn't personally experience the deaths of every person the media reports on*.
I see no need to revise that.
*deaths not sanctioned by authorized killers like local PDs or the Ministry of Peace.
Assuming you're talking about the original Giffords-Laughner thread, there's not even remotely a comparison between the events.
I don't see why not. That thread evolved into Epi being declared a monster for not hand-wringing and emoting over deaths and injuries to people he didn't know. How is this not the same thing?
Watch out, dude. You're about to get scolded.
Epi being declared a monster for not hand-wringing and emoting over deaths and injuries to people he didn't know
Not quite. Instead of keeping his mouth shut, he (and others) stated in an open forum that he didn't care if a public figure was gunned down in a public place, because that public figure was a politician.
Epi being declared a monster for not hand-wringing and emoting over deaths and injuries to people he didn't know
Hah! And I called it.
It went way beyond that; several commenters were not only loudly proclaiming their apathy (always a strange behavior) but claiming that Congress members' lives are worth less than those of random people... and of course Giffords' horrific injuries were not self-inflicted. Murder is a greater tragedy than suicide, no?
I fucking love how much you idiots hyperventilate over my comments on that thread. LOVE IT.
Who the fuck is worse than Epi?
Pelosi.
Anyone with a vagina is better than epi
Stay classy, rather.
Sorry, but I'm not living in Mikiel's universe...
What about a hollowed out cucumber?
SCOLDWND
Any politicians life is worth less than a random person's life. Duh.
Ans that's coming from someone who knows quality anchor material when he sees it.
Same here. Don't care. The one good thing - at least no one died ouside of the occupants of the vehicle. They noth died of their own choices.
When I saw the video, I didn't know he was dead...My first thoughts were though thnt the driver was DONE!!!!!
que CSI Miami YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHOOOOOWWWWWWW!
I fear for the future of civilization.
True story, In 2000, I Flipped an SUV on black ice - walked away w/o a scratch. The dude is a pussy.
Thanks for the good news.
"Speeding drunk is fun and all, but I won't be impressed until I see this car up your ass."
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
I still can't decide if he won or lost that challenge.
So, the guy finally got that Darwin award he was working on for so long? Lucky him.
-jcr
Hey, the guys on the Darwin committee take their jobs seriously, unlike those jokers over at the Nobels.
I enjoyed those shows in spite of myself. Viva the new (albeit suburban) anti-bourgeois boys that make those annoying modern mommies shit their panties in fits of unrequited temperance while wanting to have sex with same said boys, and R.I.P., Ryan Dunn.
PS That might not be beer. No matter how refined the beer snob's palate, that facial expression bespeaks tequila.
Kids are so impressionable. Half an hour of Leave it to Beaver and they spend the rest of the day doing chores and homework.
Know what his last words were?
"Hey...watch this."
Too soon?
just a thought for those who want to go out with a bang...
do you really want to wake up in a drunken stupor, stuck in a car wreck, and watch yourself and a friend get consumed by fire?