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Reason Morning Links: AARP, Al Qaeda, and Big Bear High

Jesse Walker | 6.17.2011 8:14 AM

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  • Ohio's legislature liberalizes the state's gun laws.
  • AARP reportedly drops its opposition to cuts in Social Security benefits. [Update: AARP claims there's no change here.]
  • Ayman al-Zawahiri is now officially in charge of Al Qaeda.
  • The Mississippi Supreme Court confirms: Going to church can't be a bail requirement.
  • A high school recalls a yearbook because it includes "child pornography" -- a photo where a teen in the background has his hand inside another teen's clothes.

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  1. J[o]h[nn]y L[o][n]gt[o]rs[o]   14 years ago

    Golden Girls on Gay Marriage

  2. J[o]h[nn]y L[o][n]gt[o]rs[o]   14 years ago

    Golden Girls - Welcome to Awesome80s.com

  3. J[o]h[nn]y L[o][n]gt[o]rs[o]   14 years ago

    Am I the only one who remembers this documentary?

    Hollywood: A Celebration of the American Silent Film

  4. John   14 years ago

    What Straight Men Don't Understand About Lesbians

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm.....ans-bindel

    On of the choice bits is this

    Another Guardian writer, Cath Elliott, is often assumed to be a lesbian by men who take offence at her dislike of rapists and sex murderers. She once got so tired of comments posted on her blog asking her about her short hair and lack of makeup that she told them we both run a lesbian militia training school in the countryside for straight women.

    No one thinks Cath Elliot is a lesbian.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/cathelliott

    That is a man baby.

    1. JoshInHB   14 years ago

      That's one fugly baby.

    2. sarcasmic   14 years ago

      we both run a lesbian militia training school

      I heard about that. Isn't it called Militia Etheridge?

      1. carmick   14 years ago

        +1

        1. WTF   14 years ago

          FTW!

      2. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

        boo!

        but still kudos.

      3. Upgrayyed   14 years ago

        Melissa Rubyridge

    3. Amakudari   14 years ago

      Another Guardian writer, Cath Elliott, is often assumed to be a lesbian by men who take offence at her dislike of rapists and sex murderers.

      Uh huh. That's why.

      http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-i.....40x140.jpg

  5. MNG   14 years ago

    Hack Watch

    Kenneth Del Vecchio, a Republican candidate for New Jersey state Senate and a producer of conservative-themed films, is premiering a psychological thriller this weekend with a pro-life twist: Three pregnant women, who intend to have abortions, are kidnapped and forced to carry their pregnancies to term.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....eekend.php

    Also in the film the women are tortured with nighmarish visions, two of the women who feel regret at abortion go to Heaven while the third, who does not, goes to Hell.

    Now a while back many here commented on that environmentalist group's video where global warming deniers were blown up with nice, wonderful hasty generalizations about how environmentalists in general wanted deniers dead (I went back and looked at some of the threads, god love archives!). Will the same commenters make the same hasty generalizations about pro-lifers or will we get the sudden development of nuanced distinguishing?

    Let's see!

    1. J[o]h[nn]y L[o][n]gt[o]rs[o]   14 years ago

      ...what you've just said ... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent [post] were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    2. John   14 years ago

      IF the two situations were remotely similar, perhaps you would have a point. Is he condoning the killing of these women? If the green party had made a film about people who denied global warming having nightmares about their sins, I don't think anyone would have complained.

      1. MNG   14 years ago

        "Is he condoning the killing of these women?"

        No, just kidnaping, torturing, and sending them to Hell for eternal torment.

        Nice try John, keep trying.

        1. John   14 years ago

          Do the kidnapers torture them? Or are they "tortured by bad dreams"? If this guy made a movie about pro life people kidnapping women who want to have abortions and torturing them (as in like beating them or sticking them with hot pokers or such), then yes, you have a point. But that doesn't seem to be what he did.

          1. MNG   14 years ago

            The kidnapers brag about being their "jailers" forcing them to bring the babies to term, meanwhile they are tortured by hellish nightmares. In the end the one character not sufficiently regretful about her abortion decision is consigned to eternal torment in Hell while the two who regret get to go to Heaven.

            But it's nice to see you find nuance when it's a right wing revenge fantasy.

            1. John   14 years ago

              Of course you are appalled by this, but somehow thing blowing people up in the name of global warming is good clean fun. So at worst I am as bad as you.

              I would have to watch the movie. But last I looked you can't send someone to hell. God does that. And there are people all over the world who think this or that person is going to hell for this or that reason.

              For the two situations to be analogous, the movie would have to involve people going out and killing women who have an abortion. It doesn't seem to do that, so no they are not he same. Saying that "if you have an abortion you are going to be wracked with guilt and maybe burn in hell" is not the same as making a film celebrating the death of everyone who disagrees with you.

              1. MNG   14 years ago

                I never said I was appalled, but nice of you to follow form and assume that.

                "For the two situations to be analogous, the movie would have to involve people going out and killing women who have an abortion. It doesn't seem to do that, so no they are not he same."

                That's right, in one case a movement makes a film about its opponents being blown up, in the other they make one about them being kidnaped for months, tortured and consigned to eternal torment. Yeah, they are world's apart John!

                " But last I looked you can't send someone to hell. God does that. And there are people all over the world who think this or that person is going to hell for this or that reason."

                Oh God I am loving this. This sudden nuance from you is just like my attempts to charitably provide context to the green group's video, and I know how you responded to them!

                1. MNG   14 years ago

                  In fact, we could just go back and look at some of those comments of yours, right?

                  Interested John?

                  1. MNG   14 years ago

                    I don't understand it. So many people rushed out to condemn the enviromental group's revenge fantasy video, where are they now to do the same for this pro-life group's revenge fantasy?

                    1. John   14 years ago

                      It is not a revenge fantasy you half wit. A revenge fantasy would be happy to see them suffer.

                      And even if it were, so what? Some right wing anti-abortion guy is as sick and depraved as the AGW cultists. I don't think I want either one of them near power in that case.

                      You just can't get passed the school yard "they do it too, so it is okay for us to do it" mentality. Pathetic.

                    2. MNG   14 years ago

                      "And even if it were, so what? Some right wing anti-abortion guy is as sick and depraved as the AGW cultists."

                      Nice that with the enviromental group it was just "environmentalists" that were "Nazis" (your words), but here you make the distinction that we are just talking about "some" pro-life groups.

                    3. John   14 years ago

                      Since no one in the environmental movement had a problem with the commercials, I would say they think they were just a-OK. It is not my fault many people involved with the AGW movement have grown so depraved.

                    4. MNG   14 years ago

                      Anyone in the pro-life movement decried this film?

                    5. MNG   14 years ago

                      " A revenge fantasy would be happy to see them suffer."

                      As you said in the 10:10 discussion "I don't know what they were thinking, I know what they showed, their opponents being [kidnaped, tortured, sent to Hell]"

                    6. Cabeza de Vaca   14 years ago

                      I will condemn both films. I also believe they have the right to make & distribute both films.

                    7. MNG   14 years ago

                      Consistency, good.

                      You might want to talk to this guy "John"

                    8. MNG   14 years ago

                      I have to go, perhaps I can come back soon with some choice gems from John's earlier 10:10 discussions.

                      I'll be consistent here too, maybe we can make a model for folks like John to follow and improve himself from his rank partisanship.

                      Both films were bad taste and done to shock people, neither likely exhibits a desire to harm or see harmed their political opponents.

                    9. Bill   14 years ago

                      I am appalled by both of them but I am less appalled by the kidnapping to (in the film-maker's view) save innocent lives than I am about the murders.

                      In addition, the actual "crimes" are not of the same magnitude. You would have to be completely certain that the deniers were wrong and that their actions really were going to lead to the death of many people in the future to maybe justify murder. (I am assuming that it was not just poetic justice? That they did not get killed by a flood they denied was more likely??) But in the case of abortion, you know with 100% certainty that the fetus will be terminated.

                      So I see your point MNG but it is not a great one. Sorry.

                    10. MNG   14 years ago

                      In the eyes of many environmentalists denying AGW will lead to inaction which will lead to catastrophe, including the deaths of many. They are as "certain" of this as pro-lifers are that embryos are ensouled at conception and that aborting them is murder (both claims are contestable, but certain to the true believer of both).

                    11. Anoynmous Coward   14 years ago

                      So many people rushed out to condemn the enviromental group's revenge fantasy video, where are they now to do the same for this pro-life group's revenge fantasy?

                      Because some pro-life types don't even feign sanity, which make them less fun to play with than the Gaia-freaks who, when poked scream "The Science Is Settled!"

                2. John   14 years ago

                  The movie is made as a warning. "Don't do this or horrible things will happen to you". The whole point seems to be to tell people what a tragedy abortion is. Clearly the maker of the movie would prefer that the women reform and not have them.

                  The commercial in contrast is more blunt. It just thinks it is great to kill everyone who disagrees with the cult. One is a moral parable. The other is a revenge fantasy.

                  1. MNG   14 years ago

                    "Clearly the maker of the movie would prefer that the women reform and not have them."

                    So he has them kidnaped, tortured and sent to Hell when they don't.

                    ""Don't do this or horrible things will happen to you"."

                    You will be kidnaped by Robert Loggia for nine months, tortured by supernatural visions and sent to Hell?

                    Boy you will say anything to defend your side and not apply the same standards you do to the left.

                3. John   14 years ago

                  From what you are saying, you nitwit, they were not tortured. They have nightmares. Again, if the movie involves people actually torturing these women, then you are right, this guy is just as sick as the AGW people, which is pretty sick. But so what?

                  1. MNG   14 years ago

                    "From what you are saying, you nitwit, they were not tortured."

                    Being consigned to Hell is not torture? What, is it a big dinner party down there?

                    1. John   14 years ago

                      So every movie that discusses hell is a "revenge fantasy"? By your definition, every moral parable is really a revenge fantasy, which is a bit odd and something you would never do if it wasn't in an attempt to score cheap political points.

                    2. MNG   14 years ago

                      I see, if 10:10 would have just made a film about deniers being kidnaped, forced to have nightmares about the disasters of global warming, and then sent to an eternity of torment for being a denier then you would have been fine with it defending it here as another example of the fine tradition of moral parables.

                      Hack much John?

                    3. John   14 years ago

                      If they would have, I would not have been able to complain.

                    4. Pip   14 years ago

                      "MNG|6.17.11 @ 9:02AM|#
                      I have to go, perhaps I can come back soon with some choice gems from John's earlier 10:10 discussions."

                      What. A. Fucking Asshole. Why anyone engages with this troll is a mystery to me.

                    5. Michael   14 years ago

                      So if somebody tells me that I will be crushed by the tentacles of Cthulhu for galactic eternity because I deny the Necronomicon, that would constitute torture? What about threatening punishment from the Flying Spaghetti Monster, is that also torture? Think hard, MNG.

                    6. MNG   14 years ago

                      Why do they get a pass because their revenge fantasy has a supernatural diety involved? It's the depiction of their opponents being harmed that makes it a revenge fantasy.

                    7. Azathoth   14 years ago

                      Because they are not doing the 'torturing'. The movie makes plain that is the women's guilty consciences that is the cause of the dreams--and they are not consigning anyone to Hell. Christians believe that you are consigned to Hell by rejecting God.

                      A whole crapload of Christian writings make that very plain.

                      In the commercial, the AGW believers get to make the kills themselves--no all-knowing eternal force has set things up so that the victims know that to do X means you get blown up.

                      The two are very different. One is the horrific parable endlessly told by right-to-lifers, and one is AGWer's being able to kill anyone who disagrees with them.

                    8. MNG   14 years ago

                      Hell is kind of one big revenge fantasy for many, yes.

                    9. Appalachian Australian   14 years ago

                      Why is MNG so obsessed with the right to abortion?

                      Does he like to go around getting women pregnant and then being sure they'll be able to abort his offspring-to-be?

                    10. Anoynmous Coward   14 years ago

                      Why is MNG so obsessed with the right to abortion?

                      The man wants to make sure his daily supply of fetus juice continues uninterrupted.

          2. Lance Armstrong   14 years ago

            Pedal, pedal, pedal, John!

            1. rather   14 years ago

              lol

            2. smz   14 years ago

              this made me laugh.

        2. JoshInHB   14 years ago

          Bad Dreams are torture now?

          I think you've just jumped the shark, again.

          1. rather   14 years ago

            jumped Oprah's couch

        3. JoshInHB   14 years ago

          How do you force someone to have nightmares?

          1. Highway   14 years ago

            Same way you 'send' someone to hell, apparently.

            1. MNG   14 years ago

              Well, maybe the same way you have magic buttons that make people explode from the inside out? Environmentalists can't do that anymore than pro-lifers can send people to hell or give them nightmarish visions, but both can depict people as the recipients.

          2. Sir Roderick Glossop   14 years ago

            Read a MNG John thread?

            1. rather   14 years ago

              I love their little Oscar/Felix spat 🙂

              1. Rhywun   14 years ago

                Wind 'em up, and watch 'em go.

              2. Au H20   14 years ago

                John and MNG hate fucking is why I've stopped downloading porn. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a toilet at work that needs visiting...

                *FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP!*

          3. hmm   14 years ago

            with this

          4. Trespassers W   14 years ago

            How do you force someone to have nightmares?

            Dude, it says "tortured by nightmares". Clearly they were being tortured, so the torturers must have had a way to force them to have nightmares. You know, like in Inception or something.

            I don't know how it could be read any other way.

            1. Azathoth   14 years ago

              Guilt. Christians believe that everyone is wracked with guilt, that only the 'goods news' brought by Jesus can assuage that guilt, and that only by following that 'good news' can one enter Heaven.

              Of course, they don't quite agree on what following it constitutes, and some of them have slightly different versions of what the 'good news' is, and some don't even believe that whole guilt thing I mentioned--but RTL people definately think that anyone who has or contemplates an abortion is wracked with guilt--the nightmares would come from within.

      2. the real oo   14 years ago

        deniers should be waterboarded, using glacial runoff, till they confess their apostasy

    3. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

      Three pregnant women, who intend to have abortions, are kidnapped and forced to carry their pregnancies to term.

      Holy fucking shit! How about a spoiler warning next time?

      1. Cyto   14 years ago

        Guffaw!

    4. MP   14 years ago

      Environmentalists pretend to operate under a veil of reason. But videos where they blow people up remove the veil and show the religiosity behind the movement.

      Finding strong similarities between an Environmentalist video and a Christian video only reconfirms the cult-like nature of Environmentalists.

      1. John   14 years ago

        Very good point.

      2. Tony   14 years ago

        No one is so generous in applying the mantle of rationality to himself as the libertarian, particularly the objectivist. An entire philosophy that rests on the unassailable premise: "I am right according to the laws of nature, because I say so."

        1. Trespassers W   14 years ago

          Jesus.

        2. the real oo   14 years ago

          no tony - because galt said so!

        3. Bill   14 years ago

          That may have some truth, for the most extreme versions but it is equally true that no one is more generous in applying the mantle of self-righteousness and believing that "if I think it is morally right, then it has to work" than the progressive. (As I consider myself an uber-liberal, I won't use the word liberal in a disparaging sense).

        4. Cytotoxic   14 years ago

          "I say I am right because according to logical deduction, I am" -Objectivist

          FIFY

        5. yonemoto   14 years ago

          No true scotsman!

    5. Amakudari   14 years ago

      Some pro-lifers are wackos. No shocker there. This is not a video I'd ever make or watch, and I think it's stupid to make. Kidnapping is wrong. Blah blah blah; I'll denounce it.

      But really, in the enviro revenge fantasy, didn't they actually kill children? Whereas here they committed kidnapping, but all punishment was self-inflicted or inflicted by God (likely with the subtext that all three would have gone to H-E-L-L otherwise). So I'm sorry, but I'm not going to consider these equivalent.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfnddMpzPsM

      1. John   14 years ago

        Exactly. For it to be the same, the movie would have to be about a group of people who ran around blowing up women who had had abortions.

    6. Mammy Sent Dis Ovah   14 years ago

      "Let's see!"

      Who gives a fuck, asscunt?

    7. Boxbot   14 years ago

      That movie is psychotic and indefensible. But the fact that there are religious people doing psychotic and indefensible things is well-known. It's called cultic behavior. But at least in the US, the theocratic elements are weak and stagnant, and our culture has good defense mechanisms against religious cultus behavior. AGW, on the other hand, is still hugely influential. The fact that AGW types are engaging in cultic behavior as bad as, or worse than, a pretty horrifying religious group, is worth noting, especially since the AGW death messages didn't draw any significant opposition from within the environmental community.

      1. Au H20   14 years ago

        Well, to be fair, religious types do have a rather big influence in US politics- hence the whole, "Almost all Republican candidates are both pro-life AND support a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage."

    8. Anoynmous Coward   14 years ago

      Also in the film the women are tortured with nighmarish visions,

      I was totured with nightmarish visions once. So I threw the rest of the pizza away.

      1. Quetzalcoatl   14 years ago

        That'll teach you to order mushroom pizza.

    9. cynical   14 years ago

      Since pro-lifers were actually blowing people up for a while, it seems pointless to complain about a movie. I doubt the movement has been fully purged of radical elements.

  6. John   14 years ago

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....s_opinions

    Why not corporal punishment in lieu of prison? Prison as we know it is the invention of 18th and 19th century religious fanatics.

    1. MNG   14 years ago

      It's why they call it a Penitentiary. But in fairness there was also some Enlightenment thought mixed in with the religious ideas on the subject.

      1. John   14 years ago

        I can't give you a good reason why locking someone in a cage for weeks or months depriving them of the ability to make a living or support their families in many cases is somehow more humane than just lashing them and being done with it.

        1. MNG   14 years ago

          One just 'shocks the conscience" I guess...I read that Southern states rejected prisons over lashing in many referendums because they felt the latter allowed a person to retain more dignity than the former.

        2. sarcasmic   14 years ago

          All prison does is teach people how to survive while locked in a cage with rapists and murderers, while depriving them of a portion of their life that they will never get back.

          I think that is much more cruel and unusual than, say, pain and public humiliation in the form of lashes and/or stocks.

        3. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

          Reading some 18th/19th century accounts of lashings, it seems like a particularly cruel punishment. Depending on who was doing the lashing, bones could be exposed, potentially killing the lashee from infection or even blood-loss.

          I'm sure in the 21st century we would have a more humane version, like the "lashing machine" (patent pending).

          Having said that, I would prefer a couple of lashes over a couple of years.

          1. Troy   14 years ago

            No. Cops would do it. Sign up in fucking droves.

          2. Upgrayyed   14 years ago

            When I was a kid I had a choice between the belt and being grounded...took the belt everytime. So not sure how well that works as a deterrent.

            1. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

              I suppose it depends on your pain threshold.

              1. Jim   14 years ago

                Going to jail is a sign of respect in some gangs. I fail to see how getting lashing scars would be any less so. They'd wear them with pride, and brag about how many lashes they could take. It will do nothing to deter certain types of crime.

                That being said, it's a theoretical objection, and I've never been of the opinion that bad possible scenerios should prevent us from taking action to stop current, absolutely occuring as we speak bad things.

  7. MNG   14 years ago

    Police must be sensitive to the age of child suspects when deciding whether to inform them of their Miranda right against self-incrimination, an ideologically split Supreme Court ruled Thursday.

    The court ruled in favor of a 13-year-old who confessed to a burglary during a schoolhouse interrogation before being given a Miranda warning.

    But dissenting conservative justices said that the majority was "embarking on a new expansion" of suspects' rights.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html

    Supposedly Clarence "Most Libertarian Justice" Thomas, who signed on with the dissent, said "Hell, the police should have just strip searched the kid!"

    1. Spoonman.   14 years ago

      Clarence "Most Libertarian Justice" Thomas

      "Tallest Midget"

    2. Clarence Thomas   14 years ago

      Bitch could have put pubic hair on my Coke

    3. Zeb   14 years ago

      Tallest midget, etc.

    4. Brett L   14 years ago

      Everyone knows Thomas doesn't view children as people w/r/t the law.

    5. Amakudari   14 years ago

      Clarence "Most Libertarian Justice" Thomas, who signed on with the dissent, said "Hell, the police should have just strip searched the kid!"

      Thomas was thoroughly awful on the strip-search case? Do you think libertarians disagree? He's just marginally, marginally, better than the rest on some of the other stuff.

    6. MJ   14 years ago

      I suspect Thomas makes a distinction between school staff and the police. However, police officers being in attendance when the kid was being questioned by school officials makes such a distinction not obvious.

      On the other hand if you believe that the public school system is an obvious extension of the police state, then who am I to argue?

    7. Cytotoxic   14 years ago

      A mistake yes. But Clarence is still da bomb.

  8. J[o]h[nn]y L[o][n]gt[o]rs[o]   14 years ago

    The Definitive Scandal: 'Gunwalker' Much Worse Than 'Iran-Contra'
    ...The more than 2,000 weapons that the Obama Justice Department allowed to be delivered to Mexican narco-terrorist cartels are thought to have been used in the shooting of an estimated 150 Mexican law enforcement officers and soldiers battling the cartels. Two American law enforcement officers have also presumably fallen prey to these weapons, along with an unknown number of civilians on both sides of the border.

    President Barack Obama's Department of Justice has purposefully armed narco-terrorist drug cartels that have been accused of bombings, ambushes, mass murders, public executions, and the assassination of police, politicians, and civic leaders.

    Obama's Justice Department armed the enemy of our neighbor and ally, providing enough arms to equip ten infantry companies, or two battalions, of violent drug dealers.

    Iran-Contra was a misguided attempt to trade arms for hostages and supply a covert supply of arms to rebels fighting against a communist dictatorship during the Cold War.

    Gunrunner was an attempt to develop enough gun-running evidence to bring down a cartel, and instead supplied thousands of arms to drug cartels locked in a life-or-death struggle with a key U.S. ally and trading partner.

    1. MSM   14 years ago

      Run along....nothing to see here.

    2. Anoynmous Coward   14 years ago

      I don't see why this is such a big surprise. The State Department has shipped millions in military-grade hardware to the Mexican government (and by extension the drug cartels) for years.

      Why are we getting all excited about a few pieces the BATFE sold just so they could see where they went?

      1. Quetzalcoatl   14 years ago

        ... have been used in the shooting of an estimated 150 Mexican law enforcement officers and soldiers battling the cartels.

        FWIW

  9. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

    "If [the AARP] come around and say they're ready to do something, it will be like the Arctic icecap cracking," said former Sen. Alan Simpson

    So he's saying old people are full of hot air?
    Also, what does this have to do with Global Warming?

    1. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

      That reminds me of another Simpson, which I believe is more indicative of the AARP membership:

      Marge Simpson: Where did you get all the money?

      Grandpa: The government. I didn't earn it. I don't need it. But, if they miss one payment I'm gonna raise hell!

      1. Shmenge   14 years ago

        Bart: Didn't you wonder why you were getting checks for doing absolutely nothing?

        Grampa Simpson: I figured 'cause the Democrats were in power again.

    2. Zeb   14 years ago

      I don't think it has anything to do with global warming. The Arctic ice cap is over an ocean, so it cracks all the time and always has. So I guess Simpson is saying that this is a common and unremarkable thing to happen, which seems to be the opposite of what he is trying to say.
      THe message here is that old people are stupid.

      1. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

        I accept your apology.

        1. Zeb   14 years ago

          ?

    3. cynical   14 years ago

      I think he means that they've become painfully aware of how many ice floes are out there now.

  10. J[o]h[nn]y L[o][n]gt[o]rs[o]   14 years ago

    Garrett Epps is back at it for The Atlantic, but I didn't get my comment in until late.

    1. cynical   14 years ago

      What comment is necessary? He's actually more or less correct, for once.

  11. MNG   14 years ago

    A meeting of anarchists, progressives, a self-described "surly feminist" and others on the far left of the political spectrum is underway. They're young and radical. They're organizing intently. The matter at hand could be oppression, or the police state, or revolution.

    But it's not. It's walking dogs.

    The seven people present belong to Brighter Days, a dog walkers' collective founded on anarchist principles. Last year, the five-year-old business grossed more than $250,000. Its members have equal ownership and make business decisions by reaching consensus during weekly meetings such as this one. Any of them can block any decision. They split their earnings evenly, have a group health insurance plan and cover for each other on days off. They even get paid vacation ? seven weeks of it.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html

    1. MP   14 years ago

      WTF does anything about that business have to do with "anarchists principles"?

      1. Brett L   14 years ago

        Probably the part where they refuse to pay taxes because its thievery.

        1. MP   14 years ago

          But they do pay taxes.

          1. Brett L   14 years ago

            So they're pro-state anarchists like the G8 protesters? Punks ruined anarchy.

            1. Michael   14 years ago

              Leftists ruined punk.

              1. Banjos   14 years ago

                THIS

      2. R C Dean   14 years ago

        Sounds like a pretty ordinary general partnership to me.

        1. Isaac Bartram   14 years ago

          It greatly to see this kind of stuff.

          They are so cluless about how other people act in the world that they think they invented this kind of arrangement. And that it's somehow different from (and superior to) everyone else's partnerships.

          Also, something that stands out for me is the notion on the part of the writer that because their beliefs are "political" they are somehow more scientific, rational or valid than the beliefs of members of minority religions who have to deal with working in a world that is frequently unable or unwilling to accommodate their practices and have to face the same kinds of tradeoffs.

          1. Quetzalcoatl   14 years ago

            I think you accidentally a word.

          2. Isaac Bartram   14 years ago

            Ooopss

            "It greatly amuses me to see this kind of stuff.

    2. Appalachian Australian   14 years ago

      This sounds exactly how my own business (with libertarian partners) is run.

      By the way, you might want to read up on anarcho-libertarianism. By "anarchist principles", you probably mean stuff like freedom of association, freedom from coercion, etc.

      Best of luck to them when they get destroyed for not complying with some arcane tax code. They might want to consider a Democratic tax accountant.

  12. MNG   14 years ago

    "The Mississippi Supreme Court confirms: Going to church can't be a bail requirement."

    God I love the Deep South.

    1. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

      That's actually another bail requirement option: praying to God and telling him you love the Deep South.

      1. MNG   14 years ago

        Only in Mississippi baby. This is the same state where the Supreme court passed off on a confession induced by hanging a black man from the neck (case leading to Brown v. MS).

        1. Salem   14 years ago

          We do one better with a duck

    2. Amakudari   14 years ago

      The issue here is that the stupid is so bald. But I'd hardly consider something like drug rehab to be much more than faith-based, just more science-y.

      1. John   14 years ago

        I bet there is a stronger correlation between good behavior and church attendance than there is between good behavior and drug rehab attendance. Rehab is a cargo cult if there ever was one.

        1. Brett L   14 years ago

          I've got a great idea, lets put all the people who know where and how to score dope in one room and then wonder why many of them go score dope immediately after.

          1. John   14 years ago

            +1

        2. Otto   14 years ago

          It depends - if the person freely chooses rehab, it can work.

          1. Amakudari   14 years ago

            Absolutely. My dad's partner's son had to check into rehab (long story, but he was abusing prescription painkillers), but he really wanted to quit, and afterwards left the city to avoid the temptation. So I know rehab has totally legitimate uses and can be a force for good.

            What's more common, though, is that the people and the courts treat rehab as a magic wand for fixing addiction. The issue is people being forced to go.

          2. John   14 years ago

            If you freely choose church it can work. Utimately, you just have to decide not to be a degenerate. The rest is just an excuse.

    3. Brett L   14 years ago

      Thank the baby Jeebus playing Freebird in front of the Confederate battle flag.

    4. Gibby   14 years ago

      "God I love the Deep South."

      Which one? The one that made the bail requirement or the one that said no, you can't do that?

      1. MNG   14 years ago

        Maybe the one where the court initially did this and it had to go to the Supreme Court of the State to be struck down?

  13. PantsFan   14 years ago

    Why do breeders get weekends and evenings off?
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....le2064112/

    1. Just the facts   14 years ago

      Because if you're too dumb to take off your pants and get laid, you're too dumb for a weekend off.

    2. SugarFree   14 years ago

      Fucking threads...

      Because if you don't let them off you will be tortured by dreams of Hell.

      1. The Gobbler   14 years ago

        I really like your style.

    3. JoshInHB   14 years ago

      the other is single and getting over a breakup through vigorous water-polo practices.

      Explains why he got dumped.

    4. Amakudari   14 years ago

      One staffer has children, the other is single and getting over a breakup through vigorous water-polo practices. Who gets the Sunday off work?

      Steven Bereznai, a 37-year-old Toronto journalist and perpetual single, knew who his boss was likely to choose. So he ended up serving notice that he wasn't available for Sunday shifts any more, leaving out the water-sport detail.

      So workplaces assume (or are even told) by those married with families that they're busy on weekends. Singles aren't, which means it's easier on them personally to work. I'm not married and I've been asked to work weekends frequently. And usually, I am more available than married folk.

      Problem solved, right?

      1. R C Dean   14 years ago

        Of course, voluntary, blah blah. Still, it would be nice to get some compensation for doing more work.

        Comp time would be my suggestion.

        1. Brett L   14 years ago

          I solved this problem by staying a contractor. I get paid for every hour I work and I very rarely get asked to work overtime. Even as 'the single guy'.

        2. Amakudari   14 years ago

          I was promoted faster than my colleagues. My first boss actually kept a list of every little project his employees did for him and how well they did it (something I learned from). I offered to work nights and weekends and moved past the entry-level pretty quickly.

          Again, I'd say that if you don't like what you have, you don't have to stay. That's maybe harsh, but if it's an important issue you should ask about it in the interview, bring it up with your boss, etc.

      2. The Gobbler   14 years ago

        "the water-sport detail"

        I do not think that means what the Globe Mail thinks it does.

        1. BigBob   14 years ago

          ...or does it?

    5. Appalachian Australian   14 years ago

      If employers want to favour parents or couples with children, let them. Restricting the labour market reduces comparative advantage and increases unemployment.

  14. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

    "the General Command for Qaida't al-Jihad Group?and after finishing the discussion?announces the undertaking of responsibility of Amir of the group by Shaykh Dr. Abu Muhammad Ayman al-Zawahiri."

    Yeah, how many of the people on General Command were placed there by al-Zawahiri's father? For once, hanging Chad has nothing to do with the group's foreign policy.

    1. SugarFree   14 years ago

      Because if you don't let them off you will be tortured by dreams of Hell.

    2. Citizen Nothing   14 years ago

      Note in the story how an expert compares al-Zawahiri to Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann. You gonna let them get away with that, John?

      1. Citizen Nothing   14 years ago

        Terror expert Evan Kohlmann likens Zawahiri's ascent to the prospect of Minnesota Rep. Michelle Bachmann or former Alaska governor Sarah Palin winning the Republican presidential nomination.
        Heh heh heh.

        1. John   14 years ago

          No bias in the media. None at all.

        2. John   14 years ago

          America's most famous john telling us how "radical" the Republicans are. If only.

        3. John   14 years ago

          http://www.slate.com/id/2297141/#add-comment

          1. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

            There are three core examples of this: the cut-taxes/deregulation libertarian perspective that puts even greater faith in the magic of an unfettered private sector than it did before the economic cataclysm of 2007-08...

            Stupidly eschewing faith in the magic powers of the appointed regulators who did such a great job before the economic cataclysm of 2007-08.

            ...a social conservatism that is hard line on same-sex marriage and abortion rights...

            The anti-gay shit's not going away anytime soon, and abortion is what it is.

            ...and a newfound isolationism that is an overreaction to the adventurism and unilateralism of President George W. Bush.

            The left is going to champion free trade now?

            1. John   14 years ago

              I love how everything was deregulated in the 00s. It is as if SARBOX never happened.

              A hard line on gay marriage, you mean like the one Obama has taken for years?

              And the "new found isolationism" line is too fucking despicable to even comment on.

          2. Somalian Road Corporation   14 years ago

            Eliot Spitzer. I didn't even notice it at first.

    3. The Gobbler   14 years ago

      It's Dr. Abu Muhammad Ayman al-Zawahiri, I didn't spend six years in Evil Medical School to be called "mister," thank you very much.

  15. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

    Officers pursued the car for a few blocks until it stopped along the 1700 block of Pratt Street.

    Police opened fire, wounding one of the men in the car.

    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/st.....id=8196178

    1. Matrix   14 years ago

      I don't want to make judgement until I hear all the facts, but why would the police just open fire without knowing what was going on the car? One of the men could have been a hostage.

    2. WTF   14 years ago

      The article doesn't make any attempt to say why the cops opened fire, whether there were guns found, etc. And the comments are the usual cop-fellators.

    3. R C Dean   14 years ago

      A stopped car isn't a threat to anybody. Unless they saw a gun in somebody's hand, demanded that they drop it, and had their demand refused, this looks like murder to me.

      1. TrickyVic   14 years ago

        A stopped car can quickly surge forward and strike an officer. 😉

        1. deluded1   14 years ago

          Being from Philly myself, it's likely they didn't hand over the protection money

  16. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

    "It produces a high similar to THC," Fink said. "You can go into a store and buy it. Due to a loophole in the law, it's not a banned substance."

    Teen jumper had been smoking fake pot, police say

    1. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

      Due to a loophole in the law, you're able to post stories like that.

    2. Zeb   14 years ago

      So the lack of a law banning something counts as a loophole in the law now? Awesome.

      1. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

        Simple solution: Everything is illegal until made legal. You canaries would be singing a different tune when a law was passed in that world!

        1. PantsFan   14 years ago

          that would make a great setup for distopian sci-fi

        2. Brett L   14 years ago

          Everything not mandatory is forbidden. We already live here.

  17. mr simple   14 years ago

    The picture was brought to the attention of school officials after the yearbook was distributed last week, and they notified the Big Bear Sheriff's Station, which is conducting an investigation.

    An investigation into what exactly? Are they going to charge the photographer or the kids with child pornography? Or charge the kids with anything? how fucking stupid is this? It's like school officials and sheriff's departments were created in dungeons as adults and never had a childhood.

    1. Sinic   14 years ago

      It's like school officials and sheriff's departments were created in dungeons as adults and never had a childhood.

      And the parents and politicians who are going to be outraged and demand that something be done.

    2. Matrix   14 years ago

      I bet the boy will be charged and spend time in jail. Then he'll have to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. Don't you just love today's justice system?

    3. sarcasmic   14 years ago

      The yearbook was distributed.
      That means every household who received a yearbook was in possession of child pornography.

      They're going to need to build a new prison to house all these felons.

      1. Slocum   14 years ago

        Nevermind that -- the school officials are guilty of distributing child porn. They're under arrest already, right?

        1. sarcasmic   14 years ago

          No. They're government. Laws don't apply to them.

          1. Robert   14 years ago

            My favorite example was a movie that made up the bulk of a 1 hr. program that aired a few times on WNYC-TV in the 1980s, made possible by a grant from one of the National Endowments. The program was called "Images of Children", and the movie (whose name I forgot) in the middle of it was some biopic of a left-wing couple from Cambridge, Mass., one of whom died from a cancer. In what was pretty clearly staged to look like child-initiated clowning around, the little boy & girl did naked splits for the camera, calling it the Penis & Vagina Dance. Not to say that kids don't do that sort of thing on their own, but it pretty much had to be a command performance under the circumstances.

            It's getting to be like Singapore, where gov't suppresses sexual activity, then decides there isn't enough of it and so holds official singles events.

      2. CrackertyAssCracker   14 years ago

        A simple book burning should take care of the problem.

    4. Rich   14 years ago

      The school has offered to reimburse students who do not want their yearbooks back.

      I suppose the school has offered to arrest students who do not want their yearbooks confiscated. Also, along the lines of mr simple, how about charging everyone at the dance and everyone who worked on and distributed the yearbook?

      1. John   14 years ago

        If this had been a private summer camp, I could see charges being filed. Yes, we really are that insane about this stuff.

        1. TrickyVic   14 years ago

          Execpt when it's done at the airport by federal agents.

        2. Robert   14 years ago

          More likely in Britain than the USA or Canada.

    5. Zeb   14 years ago

      How do they even figure that that is pornography? If someone said "here's some porn" and gave me a picture of some guy sticking his hand in a girl's shirt, I would be a little disappointed. As far as I'm concerned, it's not porn if there is no penetration.

      1. Dirty Internet Guy   14 years ago

        Except furries. They count too.

        Or you can go with the rare hybrid - Eeyore porn.

        Actually, all manner of fetish porn eschews penetration. Foot fetish, stockings, bondage, caning, splooshing, facesitting, humiliation, and on and on. All include significant segments that focus only on the fetish and skip the other aspects of sexuality.

        Of course, I'm with you. If there's no penetration, it ain't porn. At least not good porn.

        1. Pr0n   14 years ago

          You penetration fetishists

  18. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

    Ayman al-Zawahiri is now officially in charge of Al Qaeda.

    Looks like a lot of days ahead eating at his desk for al-Zawahiri.

    1. John   14 years ago

      Being the world's leading arch villain is not an easy job, a lot of late nights and weekends.

      I once had a conversation in Iraq with a Colonel intel type. He was convinced that Al Quaeda had a hidden complex somewhere in Iraq and a staff that looked just like hours. My first reaction was "no wonder they are so willing to blow themselves up." It was really a scene out of a Kubric movie.

    2. Pope Jimbo   14 years ago

      Sure stick the guy with only 5 wives with all the overtime, and let the other evil masterminds with 15 wives go home.

    3. Anoynmous Coward   14 years ago

      Quake in fear America! Ayman al-Zawahiri is in command of Al-Qaeda! Even though the police are more likely to kill you than he is, be afraid!

      OOGA BOOGA!

  19. Carmick   14 years ago

    YaY Ohio! so proud of my state today with the passing of this legislature 🙂

    1. Rich   14 years ago

      Ohio's legislature liberalizes the state's gun laws.

      We really need a better term for this than "liberalize".

      1. Carmick   14 years ago

        well... it is the historically correct term to use when a state allows for more range in individual freedom... it was ours before the socialists bastardized the word...

      2. Somalian Road Corporation   14 years ago

        Fuck that, I'm not going to abandon a perfectly good word because it was hijacked by statist idiots. Plus "progressive" is so hip and trendy nowadays that I'm seeing it used far more.

        1. Flo   14 years ago

          "progressive" is so hip and trendy nowadays that I'm seeing it used far more.

          Thank you very much!

    2. Carmick   14 years ago

      *legislation

      my bad

      1. Clich? Bandit   14 years ago

        RC's LAW +2

        The passing of the legislature can't be all bad.

    3. Appalachian Australian   14 years ago

      NPR is warning me of the "dangerous mix of guns and booze" I can now expect at my neigbourhood Applebee's.

      1.   14 years ago

        Eating good in the hood.

      2. Somalian Road Corporation   14 years ago

        Did the phrase "blood in the streets" come up?

    4. cynical   14 years ago

      Finally, we can be drunk and armed.

  20. SugarFree   14 years ago

    Your nut "punch" for the day.

    Jennifer Kolone, 30, was arrested on May 24 after her boyfriend called 911 to report that she was being abusive, according to charges filed in King County Superior Court. The alleged victim, a 40-year-old man, told police that the couple had argued and he threatened to leave. When the man ignored Kolone's apology, she grasped his testicles and "squeezed very hard," Seattle police Detective Pilar Curtis wrote in a report.

    The man felt "extreme pain" and saw blood on his groin area, charges said. After the assault, Kolone "calmed down and began to clean the house as if nothing happened," Curtis wrote in the report.

    The man was taken to Northwest Hospital & Medical Center for surgery. Dr. Karen Jacoby told police that the man's wound looked like it was a "knife injury," charges said.

    Neither police nor prosecutors say that a knife was involved.

    1. Rich   14 years ago

      I'm betting she did it with her little finger nail.

    2. CrackertyAssCracker   14 years ago

      Well, if he's not a allowed to beat the crap out of her after this happens, that is what the police are for right? Violence by proxy?

  21. John   14 years ago

    http://www.theatlantic.com/int.....ts/240441/

    Cambodia apparently has its own Daily Show.

    1. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

      On a side note, I have a good friend who is a government contractor currently working in Iraq. He's basically a truck driver in the airport.

      Anyways, he has vacationed in Cambodia several times and loves the country. He's been to the Killing Fields, motorcycled through the countryside and even shot off Russian-made machine-guns (no, not SMGs but MGs) there. There is a huge amount of personal freedom there - provided you have money to throw around... sure, there are downsides, but from his telling it sounds like an interesting country to visit.

      1. John   14 years ago

        I would love to go to Cambodia. Before the fucking commies got their grimmey paws on it, it was the pearl of southeast Asia.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

        Would he say his experiences there were seared - SEARED - in his memory?

        1. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

          What happens in Cambodia stays in Cambodia.

        2. bosty   14 years ago

          like a diamond bullet right through the forehead

      3. Quetzalcoatl   14 years ago

        Yes, but how are the roads?

  22. P Brooks   14 years ago

    However, authorities said they were concerned enough about the picture that they demanded that all Big Bear High School students return their 2011 yearbooks to the school so that the photo can be removed or covered up.

    Won't they have to kill everyone who has already seen it?

    1. John   14 years ago

      No. Just put them on a sex offender list and issue them a tent so they can live under a bridge for the rest of their lives.

    2. Sneaky LEO   14 years ago

      Pics or it didn't happen.

      1. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

        I'm sure this pic will eventually filter to "b".

  23. John   14 years ago

    http://legalinsurrection.blogs.....heads.html

    Wisconsin protestors lock their heads to metal railings. Why didn't they just turn the lights off, lock the doors and leave them there?

    1. SugarFree   14 years ago

      Along with the two who locked themselves to the railing, a group of a dozen protesters loudly chanted "Kill the bill."

      It's violent rhetoric and eliminationist imagery like this that got Gabby Giffords shot.

      1. Tim   14 years ago

        "Kill the Bill"
        Quentin Tarantino gets $1.50 every time somebody says that.

    2. sage   14 years ago

      Wisconsin protestors lock their heads to metal railings.

      Further proving that we will never reach Peak Retard.

    3. R C Dean   14 years ago

      I bet there was a serious discussion about just leaving them there.

      I can just see the tour groups filing by while the morons begged someone to cut them loose.

      1. FlyoverCountry   14 years ago

        My question is, why are these protesters so young? 20 and 23? What the fuck are they protesting for? Surely neither one of them has a job, so that's not the issue; and if they were hoping to become teachers, then they are going to need some of the old fucks to retire already and free up some positions.

        I've never understood how college-aged people can support this kind of 'progressive' crazyness - an I'm only 26! Why is my generation striving so hard to reach Peak Retard?

  24. P Brooks   14 years ago

    Due to a loophole in the law, it's not a banned substance.

    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

    1. John   14 years ago

      The irony is that unlike actual pot, the fake stuff probably really is dangerous.

      1. sarcasmic   14 years ago

        What do you mean actual pot isn't dangerous?

        It can get you killed by the police or raped in prison!

        That sounds pretty dangerous to me.

        1. John   14 years ago

          True. I hear it is deadly to canines.

        2. Rich   14 years ago

          Well said. "Pot today is much more dangerous than it was in the sixties."

  25. John   14 years ago

    http://www.theatlantic.com/mag.....avez/8557/

    I guess the new book on Caesar Chavez portrays him as a bit nuts. Interesting article if you skip the first ten paragraphs of Caitlin Flannagan pondering her hard life growing up as a rich bitch in Berkley. God that woman is awful.

  26. Tim   14 years ago

    I am going to miss not being able to read the headline:
    "Ethics Committee Grills Wiener"

    Sorry.

    1. Amakudari   14 years ago

      Weiner Pulls Out Too Late

      1. Tim   14 years ago

        "Wiener fights for every inch"

        1. sarcasmic   14 years ago

          "Erections have consequences"

          1. gaijin97   14 years ago

            will he soon run for re-erection?

            1. Amakudari   14 years ago

              Potential movie title:

              Weiner: The Director's Cut

              Get it? Cuz he's Jewish.

              1. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

                Lmao. Here, have ten free Internets.

  27. P Brooks   14 years ago

    Sorry.

    Don't be.

  28. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

    I'm still waiting for Ohio to wholly eliminate all schemes of licensure and record by legislative repeal; 'constitutional carry' is on its way, I hope. And it's among the first mega-states (large populations, major urban centers) to take such a step.

    1. cynical   14 years ago

      Ohio is a much better choice for the free state project. It's a statistical fact that 64% of all libertarians live in OH, mostly in or near Columbus.

  29. Tim   14 years ago

    I actually got this response on another blog concerning the shooting of Marine Jose Guerena by the Pima SWAT:

    "Tim, they didn't shoot the man for nothing. He obviously had to have been not cooperating in some manner.

    It's like the professor from the beer summit who was arrested for breaking in to his own house. Had he cooperated with the cop he would have been fine, instead he chose to not to cooperate and the cop acted accordingly.

    While it is tragic the man was shot, if the cops were cleared there had to have been due cause. Whether he had drugs or not therefore becomes irrelevant.

    Lesson, if you have nothing to hide the don't. Let the cops come in search, ask questions and leave. Afterall, that is their job. "

    !

    1. John   14 years ago

      We are unworthy of our freedoms.

    2. SugarFree   14 years ago

      STOP RESISTING!

    3. Brett L   14 years ago

      Right. And rapists' hobbies are rape, but it doesn't make cooperation the preferred interaction.

  30. P Brooks   14 years ago

    "What do you mean, 'presumption of innocence'? The police wouldn't come to arrest you if you weren't guilty!"

    1. Tim   14 years ago

      Yeah, I was stunned. It wasn't sarcasm. That guy is a believer. Oh well.

  31. John   14 years ago

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/201.....ciety-ams/

    Why have they dodged open discussion on such an important issue? I've been told that the American Economic Society does not take sides on controversial economic issues but acts primarily to help in stimulating back and forth discussion. This is what the AMS should have been doing but haven't....

    Many of us AMS members believe that the modest global warming we have observed is of natural origin and due to multi-decadal and multi-century changes in the globe's deep ocean circulation resulting from salinity variations. These changes are not associated with CO2 increases. Most of the GCM modelers have little experience in practical meteorology. They do not realize that the strongly chaotic nature of the atmosphere-ocean climate system does not allow for skillful initial value numerical climate prediction....

    The AMS is going to be judged in future years as having foolishly sacrificed its sterling scientific reputation for political and financial expediency....

    But the science is settled!!

    1. RyanXXX   14 years ago

      Ignorance is strength!!!!

  32. P Brooks   14 years ago

    Wisconsin protestors lock their heads to metal railings.

    Well, be fair; it's not like they were doing anything useful with them.

  33. hmm   14 years ago

    I like the song and video.

  34. Trespassers W   14 years ago

    Ohio's legislature liberalizes the state's gun laws.

    Apparently somebody's not thinking of the children.

  35. Au H20   14 years ago

    Why is feminism afraid to focus on its flaws?

  36. Au H20   14 years ago

    Most Illinois specialists won't take medicaid patients

    We also have a winner for "statist fuck of the year" in the comments, with these two little gems:

    Sorry, Medicine is not a free market. Never has been, never should be. If you don't want to serve the public that gives you the license that lets you practice, find a new line of work.

  37. Au H20   14 years ago

    AND:

    I don't want to indenture them to my sense of moral obligation. I want to indenture them to appropriate regulatory terms that are based on the public interest. Providing care to the indigent yet insured is part of the public interest. This is standard practice in the rest of the developed world. For some reason American citizens just don't count for much, I guess.

  38. Warty   14 years ago

    Ohio's legislature liberalizes the state's gun laws.

    What a nice coming-home present. Let's celebrate with Rotting Christ.

  39. Au H20   14 years ago

    Lastly, Feministing's Jos, "Men Can Get Pregnant" Truit is at netroots. Let's take a whiff of the stupid:

    . I really struggle with problems with the nonprofit model. I think it's incredibly important for people to get paid to do social justice work ? it needs to be sustainable. But big picture issues with organizations speak to the difficulties of working for justice within a fundamentally unjust capitalist system.

    1. Appalachian Australian   14 years ago

      As usual, the author is frustrated with the heirarchical model of organisations, yet at the same time is espousing a philosophy which embraces collectivism (belonging to an underprivileged group) at the expense of individualism.

      They really want to have it all and not have to work for anything.

  40. Au H20   14 years ago

    Oh yeah, almost forgot: Jezebel helps you navigate the social minefield of... TRAVELING WITH FRIENDS?!

    1. Warty   14 years ago

      Pool your money.
      I talked to Marybeth Bond, founder of Gutsy Traveler and author of Best Girlfriends Getaways Worldwide, who says, "When you start to plan, put $100 into a nonrefundable kitty. And that way, if anybody backs out, they lose the $100, but it isn't such a big hit to everyone else."

      What the fuck? All you need are friends who aren't total fuckstains, and road trips become awesome.

      1. Au H20   14 years ago

        I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Women hate other women.

        1. Banjos   14 years ago

          Just the vast majority of them.

      2. Brett L   14 years ago

        Right. Jezebelians who have friends who aren't total fuckstains.

    2. Amakudari   14 years ago

      I always thought the rules were 1) find a good friend, 2) travel, and 3) don't be a douche.

      It worked for me on two cross-country trips by car.

      Are they really struggling to travel to a city without bickering over which outlet to go to?

  41. P Brooks   14 years ago

    but it isn't such a big hit to everyone else.

    "Stealing money from your friends; it doesn't hurt at all."

  42. P Brooks   14 years ago

    working for justice within a fundamentally unjust capitalist system.

    Horrible, horrible capitalism!

    1. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

      Why, just last week, I saw Congressman Paul sneak into Wendy's bedroom and suck the blood right out of her baby through the rear bedroom window! His monocle and Klan apparel didn't match, but it sure did confirm my opinion of anybody that doesn't like socialized medicine and progressive politics! I called the police right away, but by the time the good guys arrived, the bloodthirsty capitalist pig had turned into a vampire bat right before my eyes and flown away! Oh, the horror! Well, off I go to collect my food stamps! 🙂

    2. Au H20   14 years ago

      In Soviet Russia, airbrush make women uglier!

  43. Invisible Finger   14 years ago

    So then all prom photos are child porn.

    They should go after the enablers of proms, with them there wouldn't be these photo ops.

  44. Pooky   14 years ago

    Fareed Zakaria socks it to conservatives. Libertarians, too. Y'all living in a dream world:

    http://www.time.com/time/natio.....id=fbshare

  45. gdm organik   7 years ago

    gdmorganik
    gdmsolution
    gdmoke
    pupukgdmorganik

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