Cicada Ice Cream: Crunchy, Delicious, and Banned
Apparently cicadas taste like peanuts. Which make them excellent candidates to be boiled, coated with brown sugar and milk chocolate and then mixed into brown sugar and butter ice cream. Garnish with wings and serve.
Cicadas only hatch every 13 years, and when they arrive they make an impressive racket. The folks at Sparky's Homemade Ice Cream in Columbia, Missouri, whipped up an experimental half-batch of cicada ice cream to celebrate the onslaught. Perhaps surprisingly, the novelty flavor turned out to be wildly popular and sold out quickly.
But before Sparky's employees could run home to collect more of the crunchy ice cream filler from their backyards for another batch, someone thought to check in with the Columbia/Boone County Department of Public Health and Human Services. Which promptly squashed the venture:
"The food code doesn't directly address cicadas," [Gerry Worley, environmental health manager for the department] said. "We advised against it."
No one had any reason to think it was unsafe to eat the bugs. In fact, they're quite edible. But if it's not permitted, it must be prohibited, right?
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....somebody snitched on me, Oh...
Upvote for classic and obscure song reference.
Advised, eh? Can't they just take that advice and ignore it? If it was just an advisement, what's the problem? Continue making it, and post a warning stating that the local busybodies don't have a rule for how to prepare cicada, and they advise against eating it. That would be a great way to keep going.
And I bet that after doing so the local busybodies would find a myriad of 'violations' during the next 'health inspection'.
Or, they could keep it under the counter, or hidden in a back freezer. Maybe have you show your driver's license and limit you to two servings per year. Wait, that's ridiculous.
When we "advise", we mean, "do what we say or else we'll *make* a law"
We'll bust down your door and seize your cicadas at gunpoint...
And shoot your dog.
A guy in Cincy made a Cicada homebrew during the big infestation a few years back.
Brood X - 17 year cycle, 2004.
The 13 year cicadas are pussies.
We have a few beer geeks here in Nashville interested in brewing a cicada beer. I'm almost tempted to do it. Almost.
The food code doesn't directly address cicadas," [Gerry Worley, environmental health manager for the department] said.
He was doing so well, until he made a completely extralegal statement:
"We advised against it."
Too bad the ice cream people didn't press him on that. "Are you forbidding us from using cicadas?" "Are you saying you have basis for taking any action against us if we use cicadas?" You have to corner these slippery fuckers (the bureaucrats, not the bugs. Well, maybe the bugs, too.)
Everyone knows if it isn't mandated in the code, its illegal.
Just like the constitution.r
Everything is mandated in the Constitution. You just have to snort this special blend of Congressional herbs and squint real hard at the Commerce Clause.
Cicada Ice Cream: Crunchy, Delicious, and Banned
Another deceptive, inaccurate headline from the truth-stretchers at H&R.
Sparky's approached the Columbia/Boone County Department of Public Health and Human Services and asked about the use of cicadas in the ice cream, Gerry Worley, environmental health manager for the department, said.
"The food code doesn't directly address cicadas," Worley said. "We advised against it."
So Sparky's voluntarily ended the experiment. Nobody "banned" anything. H&R becomes less reputable every day. Shame.
Just like "protection" money is voluntary.
Where the fuck do these idiots come from?
I advise you to give me more of your income.
Now.
This is Columbia, Missouri dude. You don't want to get sideways with the authorities in Columbia, Missouri. For your sake, and your dogs.
LOL just like Apple pulled the DUI Checkpoint apps after Harry Reid "advised" them against it.
People like you are the scum of the Earth.
An update and clarification ...
No roundup of media coverage of the cicada ice cream would be complete without a mention of how misinformation has spread on this issue. Unfortunately, an Associated Press rewrite of the Missourian's original story mischaracterized the communication between Sparky's and the health department. Many of the links now circulating say that Sparky's was told not to make more ice cream. The stories have headlines such as "Public health official bugs out over cicada ice cream," "Missouri cicada ice cream vendor told to cool it" and "Health officials nix cicada ice cream." None of those are accurate. Sparky's told us that they sought advice from the health department and decided on their own not to make another batch of ice cream.
Once the Missourian alerted the AP to its error, a new story was sent out on the wire. Unfortunately, most news outlets picked up the first story and didn't ever correct it.
http://www.columbiamissourian......oes-viral/
Not that you and your knee-jerk buddies shouldn't believe everything your overlords at H&R tell you.
I await KMW's correction....
Dude, it either "is" or "isn't" against public health code. Advice should not be given by public health departments because that is essentially personal opinion. That a public health official "advised" against it is so obviously a prelude to "we'll probably work to make it illegal" that most businesses would take it like it is, a veiled threat.
Falling off the turnip truck: how did it work?
Ok. We'll see your 'await KMW's correction', and raise ya 'waiting for you to pull your head out of your ass'.
I think he's got a valid point. The article aboves used the word "banned" and "prohibited" and certainly leaves the reader with the impression that a government agency stepped in and told them to stop making the stuff. But that's simply not what happened. It's factually incorrect.
And yeah, government agencies use "should" and "recommend" all the time. Nothing controversial there.
I rate this as a "meh." But if you're a hammer, sometimes a lot of things look like nails, I guess.
The article above used the word "banned" and "prohibited"
And both are lies. Didn't happen. But we mustn't upset the paranoid/delusional fantasy world of H&R's willing puppets, who prefer propaganda to accurate reportage.
You are absolutely correct.
And because this article is inaccurate, every single article ever published by Reason is also a lie.
Every single one.
No exceptions.
Not every one, no. A couple of the editors here (Sullum and Bailey) play things above-board and are generally trustworthy.
no love for balko? up against the wall!!
...is the puppet master?
H&R calls the Libyan War a "War", but Obama says it's something else and not a war. Is H&R a puppet for saying it is?
Would you say H&R was better when Postrel was in charge?
drink
pre-op or post-op?
"We advised against it."
People seek out jobs like environmental health manager because they are busybodies, and busybodies do not like it when their "advice" is ignored.
Had Sparky's not "voluntarily" ended the experiment, you can be sure that they would have been subject to inspections and audits that would only end when they "voluntarily" took that advice or were shut down.
People seek out jobs like environmental health manager because they are busybodies
Nice broad brush strokes. Are you a painter by trade?
Had Sparky's not "voluntarily" ended the experiment, you can be sure that they would have been subject to inspections and audits
Paranoid much?
would only end when they "voluntarily" took that advice or were shut down
How do you know? Are you familiar with the Columbia/Boone County Department of Public Health and Human Services procedural guidelines? Or are you just pulling shit out of your ass?*
*Rhetorical question. I know the answer.
I've been on the inside and the outside.
People seek power because they wish to wield it, and they don't take it too kindly when they are ignored.
Again, a grotesque over-generalization. Most workers (public and private) are not rabid ideologues. They're just trying to make a living. The produce manager at your local supermarket has more "power" over what you eat than that mid-level bureaucrat cited in Mangu-Ward's woefully inaccurate and misleading story.
Looks to me like you do not know what "power" means.
The produce manager cannot coerce me into doing or not doing anything. The best they can do is tempt me with something new or remove something I like. I can respond by trying something new (or not) or going to another store (or not). Chances are they'll do the former instead of the latter because their goal is to make a profit by pleasing the customer. If too many customers go to a different store then he might be out of a job.
A mid-level bureaucrat absolutely can coerce a business into doing or not doing something by placing conditions on what they do or outright banning it.
For them the choice is arbitrary because they have the power. The effect of their actions do not affect their job security. They've got the power.
The produce manager can neither fine me nor put me in a cage, while government can do both.
You seriously have no clue of what "power" means.
"Oh, you use cicadas in your ice cream? Hmm, there's no rule against, but it's kind of gross so, stop anyway. Oh, you don't want to? Okay, well, you have a nice day and one of our inspectors will pay you a visit tomorrow to find something wrong with your establishment which will undoubtedly cost you an arm and/or a leg to deal with. Or maybe we won't fine you. We'll just take the minutae infraction to court and have a judge shut you down as a hazard to public safety."
"You changed your mind? Great, I'm glad you've decided to voluntarily comply with our request. Make sure to grab an icepack for your ass on the way out."
proegg iikes this.
That's what you get for asking, dumbass.
HAI. dont make it easy for the jackboots, and validate their smallman complexes by asking them permission. fuck sakes...
It's not a good idea to ignore a regulator's suggestion. They can be vindictive.
It's funny how touchy the federal government is on undocumented businesses run by Americans yet how apathetic they can be, except for when they're not, towards undocumented Americans that have committed identity theft.
Hey, it's a free country, right?
Just kidding.
It's a free country.
You are free to do that which your rulers say you may do, and nothing more.
And in San Francisco, authorities have forbidden a local Mexican restaurant from selling grasshopper tacos.
http://insidescoopsf.sfgate.co.....ula/?tsp=1
That's an ethnic dish. That law is racist.
"Cicadas only hatch every 13 years, and when they arrive they make an impressive racket."
Misleading. Some cicadas hatch every thirteen years, but other cicadas have either shorter or longer life cycles.
Most cicadas go through a life cycle that lasts from two to five years. Some species have much longer life cycles, such as the North American genus, Magicicada, which has a number of distinct "broods" that go through either a 17-year or, in some parts of the world , a 13-year life cycle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada
What did the Pink Panther say when he stepped on an ant?
Ped-ant, ped-ant, ped-ant ped-ant ped-ant
a dunphy, by another name, would it not sound so. . .what's the word I'm looking for here?
So people with peanut allergies had a chance to find out what peanuts taste like, without dying? We can't have that in this country!
Cicadas are obviously a gateway food to some really, really nasty shit, man. . .
Advising against it and ordering not to do it are two different things. As far as I'm concerned, they can sell any ice cream they wish. Caveat emptor!
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/
Yeah, of course as far as you're concerned, someone that would directly take the lumps for your ideologically pure and confrontational approach should just go right ahead and bull on ahead.
Since obviously, another tactic, such as holding up potential petty bureaucrats for public scorn and ridicule before it even gets that far, is doomed to have any positive effects. And doesn't make you feel nearly as self righteously satisfied as an almost totally disconnected mere observer of these events.
The difference between advising and ordering is only in the flavor of retribution.
Disobey an order and the retribution is direct.
Disobey advice and the retribution is more subtle, but still there.
It could be health inspections that treat the most minor infractions as major, a building inspection that overlooks nothing, or perhaps even a tax audit.
Sure it can't be proven without a doubt in a court of law that this harassment was a result of ignoring a busybody's advice, but that doesn't make it any less real.
Practically speaking, advice is the same as an order in that you're up for retribution if you disobey.
I'm a vegetarian and I don't like the idea of killing animals for our food. But seriously, the Department of Public Health and Human Services? Even I can see how stupid that is.
Do insects count as animals, Thomas? I'm not being snarky (yet), I'm just interested in your take on the issue from a vegetarian perspective.
they're not fuzzy and don't have faces.
Can vegetarians eat animal crackers?
Q: What do you call a vegetarian with diarrhea?
A: Salad shooter!
They "advised" against it, the ice cream was discontinued, and I'm supposed to believe they actually had a choice?
What's the bet that had they not done it themselves, they would have been skull-fucked by the DPHHS?
The regional government of Barcelona City did the same in 2008. They banned because it was not regulated. Here the note in Spanish: http://www.gastronomiaycia.com.....-boqueria/
I wouldn't have even called those fuckers. The only calls I would have made would be to my insurance agent and maybe my attorney. Never fucking admit to anything when it comes to the state.
Fuck.
They're "fuckers" for doing their jobs? The store-owners solicited advice (are they fuckers too for asking?) and the agency provided an opinion. Nothing nefarious here, as much as that disappoints you. Sometimes an ice cream cone is just an ice cream cone.
are they fuckers too for asking
No. If you had any reading comprehension, you would know that I think they are dumb fucks.
You know, it's quite possible the people running Sparky's are just meek, obedient citizens who wouldn't dream of doing something that wasn't approved of by the almighty State. Even if it wasn't specifically prohibited, it was an unknown, out-of-bounds thing to do, and therefore anathema to the owners. There are true believers out there. That could be why they called in the first place.
When someone who has the power to shut your business down gives you "advice", just how free do you feel to ignore them?
Yeah, that's what I thought. We're not even asking what basis the advice had (I'm guessing: none; I will be astonished if the petty bureaucrat in charge had any data whatsoever that eating these bugs thta way posed any risk).
Too bad. I hope the business owner learned his lesson (Don't ask nobody nuthin'), and doesn't decide, instead, to never again do anything adventurous.
The ice cream store solicited advice, listened to it, and made a business decision. Nobody came a-callin'. There were no midnight raids on their store. No SWAT teams. Nothing Balko-worthy. KMW phoned in a discredited story and hoped nobody would notice. Those of us here with functioning brains (I counted two) did notice, and called her on it. And she stands (apparently) by her discredited story, that the cicada ice cream was "banned" by a government agency. And again, shame on Reason for this shoddy excuse for reputable journalism.
Sic Andrew Zimmern on these Gestapo food police!
In Soviet Russia, cicadas cream you.