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Charlie Sheen: Bi-Polar D-Bag or Szaszian Hero?

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Spiked Online editor and Reason contributor Brendan O'Neill gives props to amateur metallurgist, Obama p*wner, and Men at Work star Charlie Sheen for his refusal to be clockworked orange. O'Neill is no fan of Sheen's stereotypically sybaritic behavior (behaviour?). Rather, the Brit says:

He's my hero because he refuses to allow his behaviour to be psychologised. He refuses to genuflect before the Oprahite altar of psychobabble and blame his antics on his "inner demons". Instead he's fighting like a terrier against experts' attempts to brand him as "disordered" and in the process has made himself into a one-man army of resistance to the tyranny of therapy that has the twenty-first-century in its grip.

Easily the most shocking thing about the Charlie Sheen affair is not his recent debauched behaviour – Stop the press: Hollywood actor behaves hedonistically! – but rather the unstoppable march of a zombie-eyed army of therapists who want to diagnose Sheen from a distance as "mentally ill". Every cod-psychologist in search of a headline, and increased business, is offering to write a prescription for Sheen. Under the headline "Addict or Bipolar? Examining the 'Passion' of Charlie Sheen", Time magazine admits "it isn't possible to diagnose patients at a distance". And yet it proceeds to do precisely that, employing two experts to discuss whether Sheen is suffering from narcissistic personality disorder, bipolar mania, depression, anxiety or addiction…

To the fury of these overlords of therapy, Sheen is swatting aside all suggestions that he is disordered. He has denounced Alcoholics Anonymous for encouraging debilitating dependence on a Higher Power; he has slated those who blame their behaviour on demons from their past ("Like, 'Oh my God, it's all my mom's fault!' Shut up", he recently said); and he has even challenged the very language the therapy police use. Asked on ABC if he was still "using" – that annoying Oprahite word for "taking drugs" – he said: "Using a blender? Using a vacuum cleaner? 'Use' is such an AA expression!" In his refusal to speak their lingo, to play their game, to do what all celebs in his situation must do these days – arrange to be interviewed by Hello! so that they can be photographed weeping while confessing to having suffered a mental breakdown – Sheen is rebelling against the super-conformist modern narrative of weak individuals who need to be saved by psycho-priests. They won't forgive him for this.

Whole thing here.

Hmm. I don't know where I stand on this sort of analysis. I agree with Brendan that we live in a thereapeutic culture and in both England and the U.S. and most of the developed world, there's simply too much medicalization of all sorts of behavior, both good and bad. I very much fall into the Szaszian camp (named after Thomas Szasz, Reason contributor and great critic of psychiatry) that psychological terms are often used to stigmatize annoying and non-conforming people rather than convey scientifically valid insights. Certainly there are few spectacles more redundant and nauseating than celebrity addicts coming clean in full view of TV cameras and small-screen shrinks, promising that they're cured (and then turning up dead or in custody mere weeks or months later). Jeebus save us from yet another David Duchovny or Tiger Woods or Lindsay Lohan presser and/or arraignment.

Yet while Sheen may refuse to talk the psycho-lingo of the stars, he's playing out another equally tired script, that of self-destructing movie or TV or political celeb, which is equally cliched and equally tiresome. His forays into 9/11 trutherism, attacks on the creators of the sitcom that made him the highest-paid high-school dropout on TV, and possession of "tiger blood and Adonis DNA" are tedious in more than 30-second bursts. More disturbingly, his ability to avoid the sorts of regular-joe penalties for violent threats and actions is, alas, nothing new in a criminal justice system that enforces different codes of behavior for Sheens and the rest of us.

I do think the celebrities exist to provide entertainment for us, the paying and free-riding audience. And in his latest incarnation, Sheen is delivering far more than he did on Spin City or Two And a Half Men. But he's hardly a hero, even if he refuses to submit to the culture-of-therapy couch (a step up for actors from the casting couch). I suspect that one way or another he's going to disappoint us all by becoming even less interesting as a person than he had become as an actor.

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  1. Has anyone ever seen Charlie Sheen and Episiarch in the same room?

    1. Hugh, you just picked a fight with a warlock.

      1. Charlie says, “I know I am, but what are you?”

        1. Well, I’m tired of pretending I’m not a total bitchin’ rock star from Mars.

          1. Charlie says, “Pretend whatever you want – I’M a warlock.”

            1. narcissistic personality disorder, bipolar mania, depression, anxiety

              Yep, that’s me.

      2. bring it on Mighty Ducks, you don’t scare me.

        1. That was Emilio, you schmuck. Clearly I have defeated you, earthworm, with my words–imagine what I would have done with my fire breathing fists.

          1. Your best work was Hot Shots.

    2. Yes and no.

      1. Q: Did you have a good time on your date with that schizophrenic?

        A: Yes and no.

        1. Bi-Polar D-Bag or Szaszian Hero?

          He’s a floor wax. He’s a dessert topping!

    3. If the 9/11 thing makes him “mentally ill”, “bi-polar” or “crazy” then we should be more worried about the 1,400-plus professional architects and engineers that believe similar things. Especially since some of them are responsible for the design of buildings that currently stand in several major American cities.

      1. “then we should be more worried about the 1,400-plus professional architects and engineers”

        No, they should be worried about cashing a reality check.
        “Professional” whackos are whackos with paper, no more, no less.

        1. I don’t get why that should worry whackos. Do they need those reality checks to pay their rent or something?

          I have to agree that I’m more worried about the buildings they’ve designed (since they obviously designed them w/o knowledge of structural engineering or even basic physics). Just looking at that site for a few mins, it appears that the architects of the Transamerica Building and the Mark Hopkins Hotel (both in SF) are members of this group of whackos. I had to stop looking since I’m afraid I’ll find out one of them designed the building I work in.

      2. Stop the presses! Colleges turn out lunatics with credentials! Film at 11!

      3. Yes, yes, but what I really want to know is how many architects and engineers are birthers.

        And how many Keynesians are actually sane, anyway?

        1. Oh would you quit it already!! He was born in America!

          1. No he wasn’t. Keynes is English, you twit.

      4. I think the it’s the apparently manic state he’s been in for about a month that has led people to think he is bi-polar. The 9/11 trutherism or whatever is just window dressing.

      5. I’m a structural engineer and I DIDN’T sign the petition, because I don’t agree. So there.
        And why the ef are there so many architects on the list? What the hell do they know about structure?

        1. Out of curiosity, is it because you have read the NIST report on Building 7 and agree with its conclusions? If so, would you be willing to either write a paper or participate in a public Q&A addressing the specific issues they have with that report? We are looking for credentialed people to put this to rest. I don’t know if you’re someone that could benefit from publicity but we could get you a lot.

  2. “Sheen is rebelling against the super-conformist modern narrative of weak individuals who need to be saved by psycho-priests. They won’t forgive him for this.”

    I don’t give a hoot about Charlie Sheen or Paris Hilton or whoever was featured on the latest check-out-counter tabloid.
    But so long as he paid the costs to be carted off to a hospital after ODing and doesn’t whine when his paycheck bounces, I’m all for his stance here.

  3. We are all high on Charlie Sheen now.

    1. Uh, it’s not available because if you try it you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body.

      1. Too much?

        1. That was an actual quote.

  4. I dunno if the Tiger blood and Adonis DNA quotes are really nonsense. I’m 6 months younger than he is and fairly athletic, but I think three 20 y.o. porn actresses and an ounce of blow would explode my heart for sure.

    1. you just gotta learn to pace yourself.

    2. You’ve got to start training for that before 30.

    3. You take many breaks during which the porn sluts satisfy each other…

    4. 20 y.o. porn actresses

      Extra credit for not saying porn “stars.” Uploading videos of random dicks being stuffed up your stink-hole doesn’t make you a star.

      Unless you’re Episiarch. But we digress.

      I keed!

      1. “actresses”
        Oh, they’re acting when they go “oOOOOOOOOOHMYYYYYYGoddddddddddddd!”

  5. There’s been more than a few talking heads claiming Charlie Sheen is really fighting the good fight (He’s a free-spirit! He refuses to be a wuss! He’s breaking down our over-sensitive media paradigm!) I’ll agree with Nick in the sense of not buying any of Sheen, good or bad, beyond a slightly more frantic take on the old-fashioned Hollywood meltdown.

    I can’t believe a C-list never-was get’s as much attention as this guy. At least he’s not Andy Dick, he’s got that working for him I guess.

    And really, don’t most people feel Hollywood folks are all about as crazy, paranoid, and arrogant as Sheen, except maybe set at a 7 instead of Chaz’s Spinal Tap 11? I don’t blame Charlie Sheen, he just showed up with his crazy. I blame the people that watch hot-garbage-on-a-stick ‘Two and a Half Men’ to the tune of making Sheen a famous multi-millionaire. This time….it really is society’s fault!!!

    1. Hot Shots Part Deux and Major League are masterpieces.

      My question remains as to how Emilio stayed so normal.

      1. It had to have been the marriage to Paula Abdul, right?

        1. one can draw no other conclustions

        2. His role in Repo Man taught him valuable life lessons.

          1. Don’t open the trunks of strange cars?

          2. Repo Man may always be intense, but alas repo man was Emilio Estevez….

    2. “don’t most people feel Hollywood folks are all about as crazy, paranoid, and arrogant as Sheen,”

      Pretty much.
      What can you expect of people who’ve spent their entire careers pretending to be somebody else?

      1. people who’ve spent their entire careers pretending to be somebody else?

        Only when I write my resume.

    3. You know who else wasn’t Andy Dick?

  6. Diagnosis: Bitchin

    I used to think he was a worthless piece of crap actor who got his job because of his father.

    But now I know he’s a worthless piece of crap actor who got his job because of his father, but with a Randian/Szazian, unapologetically hedonistic, fuck you all to hell attitude, and he’s my new hero.

    Seriously – I think simple jealousy of his wealth, and polygamy, and unapologetic drug use, explains most of the hand wringing.

    1. Mixing polygamy, drug-use, celebrity, and paranoid political conspiracies would seem to make him more a ‘Maherian’ hero.

      That’s another small point I’ll give Sheen. Besides not being Andy Dick, he’s also not Bill Maher. Or Richard Belzer, add another small point.

      1. He’s also not me.

  7. He needs to start hanging out with Tom Cruise more and Mel Gibson less to gain a whole other dimension of weird.

  8. He’s a Roarkian hero

  9. South Park material for sure. You listening Tret and Matt?

    1. Bets this will be the opening episode for the first season? Their celebrity episodes are almost always funny (Paris Hilton, Hhhhennifer Lopez, etc.)

      1. *Ahem*. Make that NEXT season

  10. The guy is giving us a kenny powers hit between seasons.

  11. As a Szaszian to a level that’s completely INSANE, I will chime in that I DO agree with Brandan O’Neill’s take pretty thoroughly, and while confessing I don’t know ALL the facts surrounding this public policy matter, this situation strikes me as a living example of the Szaszian distinction: “Charlie Sheen does not HAVE a problem. Charlie Sheen IS a problem” to the media and his boss. But it seems he only became a problem to his boss when his boss MADE him one. (That is, he was doing his job, until his political and personal eccentricities made Lorre throw him under a bus.) And if ANY of this is a cause of his having his kids taken from him, that’s pretty awful too. (It may well be just based in accusations of abuse from his ex-wife.)
    Also, the two-minute hate heaped on him by tout le monde–of all the things to hate Facebook for, it’s how easy it makes it for us to know all-to-well what all our friends and acquaintances think about anything–is been painfully predictable, knee jerk, and to me quite aggravating, for the reasons O’Neill sums up.

    1. “But it seems he only became a problem to his boss when his boss MADE him one. (That is, he was doing his job, until his political and personal eccentricities made Lorre throw him under a bus.)”

      Sheen can do as he pleases; there’s no requirement that Lorre has to sacrifice his job.
      It’s the entertainment bizz; it lives (and dies) on popular approval. Lorre decided he didn’t want to be a hero; you or I *might* do otherwise, but…..

      1. I guess we’ll never know, but I maintain that Lorre would have had far less financial and professional trouble just letting Sheen do his job than taking this brave stand against him. Again, I’m aware I have no proof of this, but a Charlie Sheen who hadn’t been fired would NOT be the Charlie Sheen media mess of today. He just would have been Charlie Sheen, working actor, who everyone knows is a bit of a druggie and not a very good husband.

        1. Brian Doherty|3.2.11 @ 10:16PM|#
          “I guess we’ll never know, but I maintain that Lorre would have had far less financial and professional trouble just letting Sheen do his job than taking this brave stand against him.”
          Agreed. And I’ll presume the “brave” was less than sincere.

          “Again, I’m aware I have no proof of this, but a Charlie Sheen who hadn’t been fired would NOT be the Charlie Sheen media mess of today.”
          Possibly, but Lorre could also be looking at the trend; how much of a druggie can he defend to the sponsors? This much? Twice this much?
          I can’t gripe with Lorre’s choice, nor with Sheen’s choices about his life.
          And if *Sheen* does gripe, well, tough stuff, stupid. You’ve chosen a career (and profited greatly) where public norms matter.
          Want to be a hero for personal choice? I’m right behind you, but don’t gripe when your choices cause problems.

          1. That is “Agreed we’ll never know”

            1. What problems do you think Lorre would have had continuing his cash-making machine of a TV show with an actor who, as far as I know, always did his job well?

              1. What problems do you think Lorre would have had continuing his cash-making machine of a TV show with an actor who, as far as I know, always did his job well?

                Total speculation here, obviously, but I don’t think Lorre gives a rip if he has one less show bringing in the bucks. He’s already got hits with Big Bang Theory (which is going to bring in the syndication dollars pretty soon) and Mike and Molly that are raking in cash for him, which is why I think, personally, he did that passive-aggressive punkout of Sheen on the Vanity Cards. I’m certain he was trying to provoke a reaction, got what he wanted, and now he doesn’t have to deal with the headaches anymore.

                I mean really, Lorre’s dealt with Sheen’s abuse allegations from TWO of his ex-wives and Sheen’s drug use for 2.5 Men’s entire run–but when Sheen plays the “Name That Jew” game, THAT’S what gets him fired?

                Bottom line is, Sheen comes off looking like a typical Hollywood egomaniac without the good press agent, and Lorre comes off looking like a little bitch who couldn’t tell off his own problem employee and fire him face to face like a man.

                1. but when Sheen plays the “Name That Jew” game, THAT’S what gets him fired?

                  That’s “Guess who’s the Jew”.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

              2. Didn’t at least one of Sheen’s stints in rehab cause problems with the production schedule?

              3. Brian Doherty|3.3.11 @ 12:11AM|#
                “What problems do you think Lorre would have had continuing his cash-making machine of a TV show with an actor who, as far as I know, always did his job well?”

                Sorry to be late.
                Problems keeping sponsors who didn’t want their names associated with Sheen.

    2. As a Szaszian to a level that’s completely INSANE

      I’ve gotcha beat on that. I’ve read everything including his translations of Karl Kraus. Thomas Szasz is my favorite libertarian of all time. He always was writing about much bigger (and more basic) things than a “critique of psychiatry”.

  12. Charlie Sheen might not be the “I’m coming clean for Gaia” celebrity type, but he’s still the “my constant OD-ing and rolling around with diseased v*ginas means I’m real and awesome”. It’s less annoying, sure, but he’s still going to die if he keeps on like that, and then we’ll all be subject to the BS Charlie Sheen mournfest for weeks on end. Now that crap is annoying.

    1. “Now that crap is annoying.”

      My TV has an on/off switch, and no one makes me read the tabloids.
      If he wants to check out early, why should I care?

      1. What makes that show truly annoying is the homosexual pretending to be a straight divorced father type, not Sheen’s character……

    2. but he’s still going to die if he keeps on like that,

      Keynes said it best:

      “In the long run we’re all dead”

      1. Yeah but the Keynsian nonsense lives on!

      2. That quote takes on a somewhat different meaning for those that remember the Keynesian short run is determined by how long price stickiness is a reasonable assumption and that most things reprice within a year.

  13. Here is an alternative T-shirt some of us will find amusing.

  14. If nothing else, he does have one problem. An inability to obey the rules of PR. If your job depends on appealing to the public, that’s part of your job. His producers are in their right to throw him under the bus. Not that it’s necessarily a good business decision. I might even start watching that show if he’s let back on.

    1. He might be past that point in terms of independent wealth. If his business manager can keep him on a steady drip, then he need never work again, and there are no more walls.

    2. “His producers are in their right to throw him under the bus.”

      AMAZING!
      Agreed.

    3. His producers are in their right to throw him under the bus.

      You DARE to defy the Screen Actors’ Guild? There may be some hope for you yet.

    4. Getting those kids back ain’t gonna be cheap, get back on that hamster wheel Chuck!

    5. His producers are in their right to throw him under the bus. Not that it’s necessarily a good business decision.

      Either the show makes money, or it doesn’t. If it was going to continue making more money than whatever replacement show takes that slot, then it was a bad business decision to fire him.

  15. Psychology/psychiatry is bullshit. It is through reason alone that the human mind can be studied.

    1. Huh?

      1. Seemed pretty clear to me. Any attempt to pry into the minds of others is ultimately futile. Only the individual himself can analyze his own thoughts.

        1. Oh, now I see what you were thinking.

  16. I’ve become a Charlie Sheen fan overnight. I appreciate Nick’s more-nuanced parsing of “insane vs. fuck-the-world”, but I keep coming down pretty firmly on the “FTW” side.

    The guy takes a licking and keeps on ticking – he’s having more fun (apparently) than any 100 “normal” people – until/unless he drops, what’s the issue? Frankly, even IF he drops – burn out, don’t fade away.

    Now, he WILL grow tiresome…already has. But I like the 30 second bursts – good on him.

    1. Funny how asleep rhymes with sheep.

      1. Huh?

        1. Seemed pretty clear to me. Any attempt to pry into the minds of others is ultimately futile. Only the sheep himself can analyze his own thoughts.

  17. Winning, indeed.

  18. Definitely a Szaszian hero. Shame on anyone who says otherwise.

  19. I’m no expert, but I’ve read that it’s standard for alcoholics to have a massive ego, a belief that they’re special, and to alienate friends and relatives and coworkers. True, all those things can be done by stars with no substance abuse problems, but Sheen has become so extreme that I suspect he’s not as “clean” as he claims to be.

    1. have a massive ego, a belief that they’re special, and to alienate friends and relatives and coworkers

      Sounds like alcoholics are all politicians.

    2. He tested clean-He’s bi-polar and when he crashes it will be Not So Hot Shots Part Deux

      1. Retarded fail… and this T-shirt is for you: http://www.printfection.com/bi….._p_2764967

        1. No and yes it is by choice and I love the feeling when he does it there…ass spasms thinking about it.

          1. Then you should have your prostate checked.

            1. I love doing that-he dies everytime

              1. Not your lover’s, yours, oh flaccid one. Viagra not working?

                1. It’s like Christopher Hewett and Bob Eucker all over again

                2. CO, I’m sure you can find some chick to role play with you. Sorry, I like a man to role play men-good luck

                  1. Just stick to the men, NAMBLA man, and you’ll be fine.

                    1. Just stay away from “little bitching boys”, Fr. Rectal. Sicko.

  20. “I’m no expert, but I’ve read that it’s standard for alcoholics to have a massive ego, a belief that they’re special, and to alienate friends and relatives and coworkers.”
    So? Been around god-talkers recently?

    “I suspect he’s not as “clean” as he claims to be.”
    I didn’t see that claim.

  21. Charlie is how a movie star or a rock star should be. Living it up with drugs, alcohol, sex, and money. Going too far. Having a huge ego. And not being ashamed to let people see it.

    Charlie is great because he does it right. He’s not some fuckbag like Chris Martin or Bono. No, he follows in the footsteps of people like Oliver Reed and and Bon Scott (except the dying part).

    1. “No, he follows in the footsteps of people like Oliver Reed and and Bon Scott (except the dying part).”

      Mick Jagger comes to mind, and that old fart *still* boogies!

    2. He did say he has done more shit than Keith Richards. Come on Charlie, nobody is in that league, obviously, given the man is a reanimated skeleton.

      1. alan|3.2.11 @ 10:45PM|#
        “He did say he has done more shit than Keith Richards.”

        Hey, so long as he doesn’t try to climb trees, well………..

    3. What sick ridiculous puppets we are
      and what a gross little stage we dance on
      What fun we have dancing and fucking
      Not a care in the world
      Not knowing that we are nothing
      We are not what was intended.

    4. Errol Flynn still looms largest as a celebrity role model.

    5. He would be great if he was funny or talented.

  22. i have no doubt that sheen is just trying to mess with people. Is he crazy? Yes but this is clearly him putting on a show to get the publicity and it is working.

    I am sure though he is upset that he took it far enough that he had his youngest kids taken away. Doubt he was counting on anything like that to happen.

  23. I have mixed feelings about Sheen as well. Like everyone else, I abhor his history of violence against women. And it’s hard to justify the hardships he’s imparting on his co-workers and, in all likelihood, children.

    But I love that he’s not apologizing for how he lives his life, especially when it comes to the partying, the drug use, and the sleeping with porn stars. My god, what a terrible series of life choices he must have made to be banking $2 million a week and be dating two gorgeous women. Get this man some help, quick.

    It’s kind of startling to see everyone falling all over themselves to both ridicule and pity him. It’s almost like they’re desperately trying to convince themselves that their own “safe” lifestyles are really way more awesome than Charlie’s.

    1. “But I love that he’s not apologizing for how he lives his life, especially when it comes to the partying, the drug use, and the sleeping with porn stars. My god, what a terrible series of life choices he must have made to be banking $2 million a week and be dating two gorgeous women. Get this man some help, quick.”

      I’m seeing this type of argument quite a bit, and I don’t think it really fits. If Sheen was going about his business, maintaining publicly/professionally, I don’t think any of this stuff goes down.

      Arguments like the above quoted are kinda implying a bunch o’ squares jumped all over Charlie in anger/jealousy of his lifestyle. Sheen’s show is a money machine, you think some Hollywood schmucks are going to stop the green from rolling in because they want to get all BYU honor code? I don’t, not for a minute.

      Sheen is famous for ugly personal blow-ups and almost as nasty professional blow-outs. His lifestyle bleeds out all over his professorial life. Crimminy, look at the guy….he looks like a dried up piece of leather. Drugs, booze, and women aren’t being indulged without a price in Sheen-Land. If he was being picked on in a moral hissy fit, like our young Mr Doherty implies above, I’d agree with some of these arguments. But even not knowing all the facts, this guy’s storied track-record doesn’t argue for assuming he was acting just peachy before his latest work brouhaha.

      1. “But even not knowing all the facts, this guy’s storied track-record doesn’t argue for assuming he was acting just peachy before his latest work brouhaha.”

        Straw man: “Don’t hit me again!”

      2. Charlie. It’s like this. You’ve had your ass laid up in the hospital three times since November. You can’t handle your blow like you could in 2009. As far as we are concerned, Mr. Warlock blood of fag Greek God wannabe, the fact you pussy out after a speed ball makes you untermensh, and no outfit in the Golden City insures the untermensh, so we’re gonna have to cut you loose.

        1. Who plays the Hollywood Fixer in the film version? George Clooney?

    1. Got anything original dear?

      1. published today about a 4year old drug mule-fucking tragic

        http://rctlfy.wordpress.com/20…..d-as-mule/

        1. I say again “Got anything original dear?”

          And by that I mean something that doesn’t lead to the rectal blog?

          1. http://www.sfweekly.com/conten…..n/2320454/
            and yes I will write about it on my blog

  24. Piers Morgan, Goddamn, what a useless sycophant. I saw an embed vid while googling of Morgan with Oprah and my morbid curiosity got the better of me, and I just had to click it. Holy fuck, what horrible human beings those two people are.

    ‘I would do anything for you, Oprah. Anything.’

    ‘Oh, you’re gooood.’

    They really are under the delusion their mutual profession of interviewing people actually takes talent and professional discipline. It was sad, sick and twisted all at the same time. I had to view all three clips. It was better than twelve car pile up.

    1. “They really are under the delusion their mutual profession of interviewing people actually takes talent and professional discipline.”

      And Larry King is proof it isn’t.

      1. BUT WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE GROCERIES?

        HELLO?

    2. “They really are under the delusion their mutual profession of interviewing people actually takes talent and professional discipline. ”

      Same could be said for psychiatrists.

    1. Oh, that was helpful.

    2. Whoops, pants fan. I missed a turn at Albuquerque. It was meant for someone being a jerk below.

      1. I understand

    3. Rudan|3.2.11 @ 10:57PM|# in case you were wondering.

    4. Didn’t they already do that with Diddy?

        1. It’s like Bronson Pinchot and Mark Lynn-Baker all over again

  25. He IS a Szaszian Hero. May there be many more.

    The unethical and sickening so called ‘doctors’ who have peppered the press with pseudomedical smears and called for him to be committed, are nothing but ideologues.

    Psychiatry is an ideology, not a legitimate branch of medicine.

    The fact that people believe a psychiatrist can declare the most complex organ in the known universe, the brain, as diseased just by sitting four feet in front of you behind a desk with such impressive advanced diagnostic medical technology as a pen and paper, tells me this faith, this pseudomedical relgion, will be with us for some time, and continue to maim and harm millions.

    Of course, the state gives them coercive powers to rip away your right to own your own body without any evidence there is a thing wrong with your body.

    Psychiatrists reserve the right to inflict on all of us brutal forced drugging, forced electroshock, indefinite detention without charge, it’s all quackery, and it’s all an affront to liberty.

    Anyone who chooses to work in a coercive psychiatry setting is a brain rapist, a perpetrator of massive violence against their fellow man.

    What a wonderful article on the Sheen story, indeed. Wonderful.

    1. Agreed. I’ve alwas thought that psychiatry/psychology was just a half science at best. I’ve hung out with some psych students who were pursuing higher degrees (theyre doctors now, but i havent seen them in a while) and the shit that they believe and say is just amazing. They all buy into it 100%, they think they have it all figured out and if you don’t believe what they say it’s because you don’t know what you’re talking about. They weren’t a particularly bright bunch either.

      Add to that all the crap where these doctors try to analyze and profile people they never meet, especially the ridiculous diagnosing of historical figures, and all you get is something about as worthwhile as astrology.

      1. Yes, they are indoctrinated. To specialize in psychiatry is to throw a perfectly good MD down the toilet.

        Couple hubris, indoctrination, prestige and unlimited coercive powers, and these people turn into pseudomedical terrorists.

        Being more than prepared to initiate the most invasive violence in the name of their beliefs, makes them dangerous fanatics.

        I once had a psychiatrist ask me what the word ‘subsequently’ meant.

        I was dependent on this guy’s opinion for my liberty.

        1. Don’t break the law next time, numbnuts.

          1. Don’t disgust me. I broke no law. What kind of melted mind do you have where you assume I am talking about the justice system?

            1. You were “dependent on this guy’s opinion for” your liberty. WTH else are you talking about?

              1. Spoon feeding morons is boring. Let me lay it out for you.

                Psychiatrists have the power to remove anybody’s liberty, yours, hers, his, mine. You’ve never heard at all of the civil laws that empower shrinks to remove the liberty of noncriminals? What are you six years old?

                1. Cite the statute where a psychiatrist can, at his sole and unfettered discretion, “remove” your liberty legally.

                  Jesus Jumped-up Christ some people believe the dumbest things.

                  1. It’s like Jaleel White and Reginald VelJohnson all over again

                  2. Cite the statute? You’ve got to be kidding? Read maybe, every mental health law in the world.

                    1. So…you cannot do it, then?

                      Alright, here, I’ll do some of the work for you:

                      Do this basic reading, plus some more so you at least have an inkling of what the hell you think you are talking about, and get back to me.

                    2. Like I said, you have got to be kidding me.

                      Experiment. Go to a psychiatrist, or an ER, and tell them that you want to kill yourself.

                      See how long your liberty lasts.

                      End of story and seriously, you’ve got no idea.

      2. The crazies were always the Psych majors, probably so they could find out why they were so fucking crazy.

        1. You know, I told you people something a long time ago, and it’s just as pertinent today as it was then. Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice – pull down your pants and slide on the ice.

        2. ^^^ THIS.

      3. Psychology is a science, but most so-called psychologists don’t practice it.

        1. BF Skinner wasn’t much of a Scientist himself though.

          1. BS, Skinner.

    2. It’s amazing to me that some of you consider this pathetic dirt bag a hero. You obviously have no concept of what the word means. This sorry excuse for a man is no hero.

  26. I have to give Charlie my Szaszian award. Having met many, many, many, many douchebags in personal and professional settings and their false sense of self-importance and bravado, Charlie, by comparison, seems to have achieved a proper mixture joie de vivre and FTW.

    He’s most entertaining when he refuses to be pathologized and analyzed into silence for voicing what seem to be his earnest opinions, right or wrong.

  27. “Psychological terms are often used to stigmatize annoying and non-conforming people”

    And often used to help those who need it.

    1. You know what ‘people need’ do you. Do me a favor, define ‘help’. Where in the history of man has ‘help’ with life been standarized to the point it could be put in textbooks and rolled out to train a cadre of ‘helpers’?

      The thing about the word ‘help’ in this context is, everyone’s so prepared to say someone ‘needs it’ and even prepared to let their government force it on people, yet nobody stops to think how tyrannical this concept is.

      1. People can be helped with their rights violated. What is it with the B&W mentality of libertarianism?

        1. I was only helping you have an interesting looking nose when I punched you in the face and broke it.

          1. Yes, all psychiatrist are crazy cruel mother-fuckers and all cops are dog killers and all libertarians are saints who never violate anyone’s rights…..Ya

            1. By definition, a true libertarian never violates another’s rights you impressive man.

              Did someone leave this site open on the library computer when you sat down to use it?

              Were you at the library solely to use the internet?

              1. that makes so little sense…let me speak in your language: go to your room and I will give you some pretty pills.

                1. It’s like Paul Reiser and Greg Evigan all over again

            2. Libertarian mentality isn’t black and white, only my puny understanding of it is.

              1. Did progressives tell you that ‘black and white’, right and wrong, don’t exist did they?

                There’s no man being tasered by the cops, only a gray area of relative perspectives on electricity and the electrodes embedded in the man’s chest, only someone’s opinion, right?

                You would have to be a clown to think black and white is a dirty word/phrase.

                1. “Black and white”,

                  You are responding to a spoof. Check the email addy in the handle.

                  1. It was a mistake to even comment here, strangely for a very intelligent publication, Reason’s website commenters are just awful.

                    What is it about this forum that attracts these idiots?

                    1. Black and White,

                      The commenters here are usually very perceptive with keen comments. It’s just the few squeaky wheels, arguing in bad faith, that tends to lead to train wrecks.

                      The day time “crew” commenters are particularly acute. One other thing to keep in mind is the subject of this particular post, Charlie Sheen, so the train wreck factor was pretty much built in.

                  1. Like the little boys you chase, pervert. It’s even in your handle, “little bitching boys.” Former clergy?

        2. What’s with the retarded victim mentality of ratherism?

          1. We only pick on her because she deserves it earned it.

            1. We only pick on her because she deserves it earned it is female and we all had our hearts broken and girls are whores and I hate sluts but I love porn…I’m so conflicted…but Rather is a girl…flap flap flap

              1. It’s like Dan Fielding and Christine Sullivan all over again

              2. There is no proof of your gender. For all we know, you are an elaborate sockpuppet with a prostate and hemorrhoids. Give it up, dude.

                1. I could so prove it but alas I don’t give a shit

                  1. LOL. If that were true, you wouldn’t mention every other post. Truly sad and abysmal, slick. This “girl” sockpuppet of yours is pretty much played out.

                  2. As suspected, little bithing boy’s link leads to rectal/rather’s blog.

                    Did you pick that handle dear because you have multiple penis envy, or because those are the only kind of boys who play with you?

                    Careful how you answer, it may be analyzed.

                    1. “bithing”= bitching

              3. Most commenters think I’m a guy, few even mention my gender, except for me when I rail against “little boys.” Yet the H&R regulars are the sexist ones…

                1. It’s like Kirk Cameron and Tracy Gold all over again

                2. Well, stay away from the playground and renounce your NAMBLA membership so you’ll quit railing the little boys (that verbiage is disturbing in itself). Problem solved, man.

                3. Sexist to rather means calling girl shit, shit. If we called it she-it would that give it the appropriate gender/sex designation?

        3. People can be helped with their rights violated.

          Time start ignoring rather/rectal. She just don’t get the whole rights thing.

          1. People who’ve never had theirs taken away tend to be that way.

            1. ^^^ This.
              As do people who want to take away those of others.

              1. And instead of shipping them all to an island… I wish we could ship ourselves to an island get away from them. Unfortunately all the islands are taken.

                If there was a free country, I’d be there, letting all these others rot in their statist mire would be orgasmic.

            2. Sorry, unlike the typical libertarian, I never had a DUI/drug bust but yes, rights can be violated, and the police, butcher, baker, candle stick maker can be abusive but NOT everyone in every profession is out to fuck you

              1. DUI is a victimless crime.

                It’s the actually hitting something under the influence that is the crime.

                Driving, by definition, is successfully not hitting something/someone.

                If you’re able to not someone why is the state involved?

                Like anything practice makes perfect.

                1. I love your logic. Playing Russian roulette is not dangerous; avoiding the bullet guarantees your head won’t explode.

              2. the only one out to fuck you is your petrified poppa.

              3. Don’t be sorry, dear, I’m sure you’re doing the best you can with what you have. It’s just another part of life.

                I never had DUI/drug bust either… and what does that have to do with being a libertarian? Typical or otherwise.

                It’s a philosophical/political position dear. It’s not (yet) as you may deeply wish, a mental or psychological condition that can be cured and/or “helped” by whatever authority or intervention you believe in.

                At the very least you (grudgingly?) admit “yes rights can be violated” – and some folks can be abusive – but using my analysis skills (I am trained) the way you word the sentence suggests you don’t believe it actually happens, but only that it maybe “can”.

                So, this too is a comment fail.

                score: A’holes; lots – rather; 0

                Ooops, calculation error: I stand corrected – you did win one against a bunch of retards a while back, using all of your superior intellect. That was exciting wasn’t it? But you still haven’t won any with me and the a’holes.

                1. I’m laughing at the superior intellect!

                  1. STFU I’m the smart one

                    1. Just so, Mr. Spock! It’s rectal that I’m laughing at.

                2. Don’t be sorry, dear, I’m sure you’re doing the best you can with what you have. It’s just another part of life.

                  you’ll never know

                  I never had DUI/drug bust either… and what does that have to do with being a libertarian? Typical or otherwise.

                  It is as typical (along with autism-spectrum, OCD etc) and it is part of their trust issues and why everything is B&W

                  It’s a philosophical/political position dear. It’s not (yet) as you may deeply wish, a mental or psychological condition that can be cured and/or “helped” by whatever authority or intervention you believe in.

                  Psychiatry continues to thrive because it can work-not always but possibly

                  At the very least you (grudgingly?) admit “yes rights can be violated” – and some folks can be abusive – but using my analysis skills (I am trained) the way you word the sentence suggests you don’t believe it actually happens, but only that it maybe “can”.

                  So, this too is a comment fail.

                  Trained? Lol

                  score: A’holes; lots – rather; 0

                  Your brilliant analysis skills told you that or your mommy?

                  Ooops, calculation error: I stand corrected – you did win one against a bunch of retards a while back, using all of your superior intellect. That was exciting wasn’t it? But you still haven’t wonany with me and the a’holes.

                  which post?

                  1. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      2. BS,

        You are a dipshit.

        Within any given context and the appropriate amount of empathy, I can garner a fairly good idea of what *should* happen. Perhaps I express that as “need” (That skinny African child on my television “needs” to eat, for example).

        1. Who could argue eating wouldn’t help the cat?

          As far as you knowing what is the ‘help’ Charlie Sheen or anyone else needs, no.

          1. Sorry, african child, not cat.

            I misread… maybe I need to feed my cat.

          2. The man’s original point was that, yes, there are times where society is overly psychoanalytical, to the point where psychiatric disorders are now badges of honor among a certain set (bipolar, Asperger’s, other “trendier” disease), but, more importantly, they are also legitimate diagnoses for people who need help. And, yes, if you knew a true schizophrenic, you would know that that person needs as much “help” as a starving African child.

            1. Ah, bold text is pathetic, and they are not legitimate.

              Putting a label on someone who behaves unusually is not a legitimate medical diagnosis.

              And this whole ‘If I knew’ crap won’t cut it. I do know.

            2. … by the way, you keep talking about people who (you say) “need” help. Is there anything in your position about people who, even though you may think they “need” it, don’t want help?

              1. Of course not, he will label anyone who disagrees with him incompetent and vote for policies that force them into what he defines for his neighbor as ‘help’.

                1. Of course not, he will label anyone who disagrees with him incompetent and vote for policies that force them into what he defines for his neighbor as ‘help’.

                  Global warming is going to become a reality, what with all that burning straw.

                  Please link directly to the part where I said anything about “forcing” anything on anyone.

                  1. Tell me then, given a choice between a government that gave people choice, and people that forced people into ‘treatment’, which would you choose then Mr. Really?

                    1. Tell me then, given a choice between a government that gave people choice, and people that forced people into ‘treatment’, which would you choose then Mr. Really?

                      This sentence is barely intelligible. I have not yet advocated for forced treatment, and will not. On the other hand, I am not going to out-and-out deny the cold realities because some jerkoffs use psychiatric disorders as excuses for locking people up, no more than I am going to deny the rights of people to own guns even if innocent people do get shot from time to time. Knowledge, like weapons, is neither good nor bad. It is just knowledge.

              2. Is there anything in your position about people who, even though you may think they “need” it, don’t want help?

                Yes. They don’t get it. When did I say otherwise? Or is your knee jerking again?

                Putting a label on someone who behaves unusually is not a legitimate medical diagnosis.

                That’s a fuckin’ crackerjack. “This guy’s not schizophrenic! He’s just a little eccentric!” Is your worldview so threatened by the authentic fact that some people’s brains are broken that you have to deny plain reality?

                1. Is your worldview threatened by a reasonable request to present to me one psychiatrist who examine’s anybody’s brain before declaring it diseased?

                  Maybe you can declare my kidneys diseased just by looking at me too.

                  Did I say ‘a little eccentric’? No.

                  I don’t deny the genuine extreme states of distress people can get into in life. What I do deny, and rightly, is that you, any shrink, or the person themselves, can prove their brain is diseased.

                  Your ‘plain reality’ ain’t so plain as the plain to see complete faith based nature of your ‘broken brains’ assertion.

                  1. Is your worldview threatened by a reasonable request to present to me one psychiatrist who examine’s anybody’s brain before declaring it diseased?

                    So those mood elevators that correct chemical imbalances…someone just spent ten years and millions of dollars to, what, make all that up? You are approaching conspiracy theorist/chemtrail levels of delusion here.

                    1. “So those mood elevators that correct chemical imbalances…”

                      Show me one human who has ever had his ‘chemicals’ measured, tell me what the appropriate ‘balance’ is… and then we will talk.

                      Am I arguing drugs don’t alter the brain, that psych drugs don’t alter the brain? Of course not, and of course they do.

                      Drugs can change how people feel, sure, but this is not fixing a disease, for no disease was ever demonstrated in the organ in the first place.

                      It’s no conspiracy. It’s more like a false belief, like a religion.

                      You seem to be a believer. Oh well.

                    2. It is not a disease of the brain, dude. It’s a disease of the mind. Is the human mind not understood very well? Sure. Does that make psychiatry a religion? Absolutely not.

                2. .. oh shit! There’s that trick knee again!

                  “They don’t get it.” Works for me. So, what do do now? We are in imminent danger of agreeing on something.

                  1. I don’t care what you do – you do what your morality tells you to do. However, I acknowledge the fact that, without a voluntary civil society people will just demand a by-force welfare system.

                    1. To “one of the a’holes” and “BS” – I am sorry. I acknowledge that I am being a total dick right now. I think we’re in agreement more than we are in disagreement. My only point is that psychiatry has helped people in the past and, I think, some people do “need” it. Other than that, the Standard Libertarian Disclaimer applies.

                    2. Apology accepted. Smokers and fast food eaters being shackled for life and locked in a room would reduce heart disease too. Rights matter. The important thing is that people are given choice as to what they consider to be ‘help’.

                    3. Really?

                      Thanks, but for me, no need to apologize. There are often exchanges here that simply require clarifying. I got clarifying from you.

                      And, yup, it seems we may be more in agreement than not.

                      And “BS’s” last two sentences are what I think we may be agreeing with… feel free to clarify if that is not the case.

        2. Really?

          Stop watching television, go to Africa, feed that skinny child. Your “need” to “help” will be met, as will the child’s “need” to eat. Otherwise fuck off with helping people because you can garner a fairly good programmed idea what *should* happen.

          1. Just wanted to highlight that, despite the above sub-literate’s insinuations, I never said anything about “needing” to help anyone.

        3. No, I’m pretty sure he needs higher self esteem.

          1. Thanks ponchy, I though that too, but I’m sub-literate, and couldn’t think of the words.

      3. People know what they need. Almost all psychiatric admission or psychological therapy is voluntary.

        Involuntary admission only occurs when someone is suicidal or dangerous to himself or his surroundings. “Help” is stopping someone from killing themselves when they don’t need to. I’m okay with euthanasia as a libertarian because that is an individual choice when a normal healthy life is completely impossible, but when it is absolutely possible it is ridiculous to not attempt to stop in a decent society.

        1. “Involuntary admission only occurs when someone is suicidal or dangerous to himself or his surroundings. ”

          Utterly incorrect. This is like saying Iraq only gets invaded when there are WMD.

          Tell me, what due process and standard of evidence and hearsay rules, legal representation rights, separation of powers, and independent judicious decision making is afforded to you when you are unilaterally declared by one psychiatrist to be ‘dangerous’?

          None. There is no due process. You won’t even be able to use the phone to call your lawyer, for at least a few days, even then you’ll be involuntarily drugged and at a disadvantage to defend yourself due to the state decreasing your brain function with forced tranquilizer drugs, or even forced electroshock.

          As for your majority is voluntary thing… how do you know those ‘volunteers’ weren’t convinced to volunteer after a thinly veiled threat of coercion.

          If the psychiatrist has coercive powers, all so called voluntary patients are potentially being made offers to sign ‘voluntary’ papers they cannot refuse.

          And what is with this ‘almost all’ business? Almost all death row execution don’t end up later with DNA exonerations, does that mean it is OK?

          As long it’s only a minority of people being pushed around it’s OK with you? Sacrifice a few for the many now?

          And what does ‘dangerous to his surroundings’ mean? Sounds a lot like pre-crime to me. What exactly do you hold the predictive powers of shrinks to be?

          “”Help” is stopping someone from killing themselves when they don’t need to.”

          Oh, I’m glad you know what I need to do and don’t need to do. I’m glad you dare take this decision away from people too… yeah… you’re some libertarian.

          Your ‘decent society’ likes to hide away from what it actually does to people it ‘stops’ killing themselves. The violence used to ‘stop’ people often just makes their despair worse.

          There are many people who after seeing man’s inhumanity to man in your ‘helpful’ suicide prevention psychiatric facilities, throw themselves under the nearest train the day they get out.

          I think what you are saying is, you’re OK with euthanasia so long as our medical overlords have veto powers on us dummies, the citizens, getting carried away and daring to think our bodies and lives belong to us and not the collective.

          Why only use state force to stop immediate self harm then? Maybe you’d be partial to stopping long term harm too, lock up the smokers? ban the evil weed?

          After all according to you…

          “when a normal healthy life is absolutely possible it is ridiculous to not attempt to stop (suicide) in a decent society.”

          News for you, I don’t like your ‘decent society’ I think it is indecent. You don’t own your fellow man. You don’t get to shackle him and call it ‘help’ when he hasn’t harmed another.

    2. “And often used to help those who need it.”

      Seem to have missed the cite. Or maybe there wasn’t one; just an assertion.

      1. It’s really not an assertion I think I need to cite. Like “water is wet”. If you think psychological diagnosis have never helped or encouraged people unable to function the way they desire to overcome a serious disorder in their lives you’re…insane. I’m not on board with mental disorder as “illness”, but labelling and setting up criteria for mental disorders are very useful diagnostic tools for help.

        1. Helpful labeling? Which is why you throw around the label ‘insane’ as an insult right?

          Maybe the kids should follow your advice and go out and get themselves a psychiatric label (it won’t be hard they take all comers), it does wonders for one’s social standing, the perfect enhancement to your identity for those who are just sick of being treated like equal and competent human beings and are just dying to get generations of deadly stigma permanently attached to their names.

          Line up and get your label everyone.

  28. Dr. Drew to me is the worst. I recall watching his show with a friend and his girlfriend several years ago. Drew made the claim, and he did not leave any argumentative wiggle room for exceptions, when he did this, that women who grow up to have squeaky little girl voices were all molested as children. She shrieked, and looked flustered, and yelled, ‘He’s fucking nuts! Nobody ever touched me until I was twenty!’

    I would bet money Dr. Drew is a repressed memory advocate without actually having to look that up.

    1. Dr. Drew is a disgusting human being…

      “This isn’t the first time Dr. Drew has publicly opined about treatment in a way that psychiatrists might find indicative of some type of professional diagnosis. Last year, when Lindsay Lohan was the celebrity wreck of the moment, he told RadarOnline that “If she were my daughter, I would pack her car full with illegal substances, send her on her way, call the police, and make sure she was arrested. I would make sure she was not allowed to get out of jail. I would then go to the judge and make sure she was ordered to a minimum of a three-year sobriety program.”

      Read more: http://healthland.time.com/201…..z1FVSaU0ez

    2. I wouldn’t touch this topic with a 10-parsec-doomsday machine.

      1. Don’t you think I know that!

  29. I did 12 hits of Charley Sheen today and I’m just starting to catch a buzz.

    1. I wonder if you can make a order in advance on that and if there is any Jerry Garcia still going around.

  30. Nothing remarkable or unique about this guy. That’s all.

  31. Black “artists”, (rappers) do and say this kind of shit every day. Think about it – banging large crack rocks and blond porn stars, ridiculous braggadocio, narcissism, all with a FTW attitude. Does this show that we just expect more from white people?

    1. Haha, you chose the name ‘suck me, please’. I laughed.

    2. “Does this show that we just expect more from white people?”

      No. It means you didn’t read the article.

  32. @EmilioSheen: The Coen Brothers should remake Young Guns too. @JamesFranco can play my part. The fat kid from Modern Family can play Charlie’s.

  33. In other news: Off-duty HPD officer tear-gasses rival cook-off team at Houston rodeo cook-off

    http://www.chron.com/disp/stor…..51527.html

    Taking bets on whether he gets fired or not

    1. “If it was John Q. Public, we would arrest then press the full charges that the law would allow.”

      Instead, he gets payed leave till Internal Affairs finishes their “investigation.”

      1. The tear gas also reached a tent occupied by several military veterans including some amputees in wheelchairs.

        Breathe deep, boys. Those are “Freedom Fumes” filling your lungs.

        Senior police officer Mike Hamby, 51, was relieved of duty with pay on Monday while he is under investigation for “criminal allegations,” said HPD spokeswoman Jodi Silva.

        Hamby, who joined HPD in December 1980, is assigned to the department’s burglary and theft division. Hamby has had seven previous internal affairs complaints sustained against him including misconduct, improper police procedure and two accidents, according to HPD records.

        Clearly, Officer Hamby has played too much True Crime and Grand Theft Auto. He needs to be placed under a psychiatrist’s care and have his video game console(s) taken away before starts raping people.

  34. sevo – read my name, insert yours before “suck”

    1. How uncivil.

      1. This is like Sam and Diane all over again.

        1. .. but I’m dead 🙁

  35. Gritz, I’ll bet against the jackass cop being fired. He has been an HPD officer for 31 years. Zero chance.

    1. I’m going to use the LRC phrase ‘tax feeder armed thug in a government costume’.

  36. First and final rule of online commenting. When the comments section hits 100 comments, it’s time to not bother commenting. No one is ever gonna read 100 comments and no one will read your 101st.

    1. Actually, when I see a one hundred comment thread I usually scroll to the bottom and do exactly that.

    2. You do realize that the comments aren’t in chronological order anymore, right?

    3. I purposefully read high comment threads. Usually it is a sign of a good conversation going on…or a sign that Reasonoids are trying to argue with a troll. I think I just contradicted myself.

      1. What the fuck did you just say to me cunt?

  37. heller . . . go to israel. Stay there.

    1. Ouch. That hurts my feelings and I would like an apology, if it’s no trouble.

  38. Certainly heller . . . I’m sorry. How’s Israel?

    1. Are you insinuating something, sir?

      1. If you aren’t, I apologize for suggesting that you were.

  39. I’ve never been to Israel . . .

    1. OK, I can’t continue this charade.

      FUCK YOU, YOU STUPID RACIST DICKBAG.

  40. We are the only top 20 country without a high speed rail system

    1. So go Greyhound. What’s not to love?

  41. You fucks always run animal rights and Thomas Szasz related posts when I’m away.

    They took his kids away and gave them to their coke-whore mother. That’s dead certain to coerce Charlie into “therapy” if he wants to get them back.

  42. You fucks always run animal rights and Thomas Szasz related posts when I’m away.

    1. Heathen Chinee-COM machine shop echo-spammer…WTF?

      CYBERWAR!!1!

  43. My Prognostication:

    Within 3 years, if not less, Charlie Sheen will have a massive crash and attempt suicide during a deep depressive episode.

    Sometimes a loon is only a loon.

    1. Probably earlier than that. Once “The Goddesses” move on to greener pastures, Charlie will be all alone.

      1. Probably earlier than that. Once “The Goddesses” move on to greener pastures, Charlie will be all alone.

        He who has money is never alone.

    2. You sound so ‘medical’ when you call feeling down a ‘depressive episode’. Where can I buy some of your amazing ‘medical’ solutions to human life, for they are so credible and your terminology is drawn from such an impressive and accomplished science.

      I’m having a website commentative episode now. Later I’ll cook dinner and have an eating episode. Hopefully if I learn to call everything in life an ‘episode’ of some kind or another, eventually it will cobble together a believable story.

      Didn’t you hear the remaining episodes of Charlie Sheen’s show were canceled?

      Guess in three years like you say, we will get more episodes.

      As long you sound ‘medical’ why not huh? I mean, you know what you’re talking about.

      1. Is there some terminology you would prefer, Semantic Sally?

        1. Yeah. Anything that doesn’t falsely medicalize despair.

          But that’s right you believe life is a medical problem.

          I’m here to tell you it’s a terminal disease with a 100 percent mortality rate.

          But don’t worry about it.

          1. Alright, straight up, then: do you believe in medical diagnoses of any psychiatric condition whatsoever?

            1. I don’t accept the premise of your question.

              Any problem labeled a ‘psychiatric condition’ can always be looked at another way, not through the lens of psychiatry.

              As for psychiatry itself, it can use ‘medical’ sounding words like ‘diagnosis’ all it likes, I don’t give it legitimacy.

              There are plenty of retired, former psychiatric ‘diagnoses’ and ‘conditions’, like being gay, and many others just as illegitimate.

              Back in the day people defended their legitimacy just as doggedly as they defend the psychiatric vogues of today.

              1. BS.
                Your argument, actually, speaks to the idea that psychiatry is at least to some extent evidence-based. The diagnoses that don’t hold up to medical scrutiny have fallen away. Psychiatric diagnosis is an evolving science that continues to make mistakes (like any science). When compared to other areas of medical science, it isn’t as far behind as you might believe, however.

                A case in point: premature babies used to be placed in oxygen rich incubators to prevent blindness. This practice was stopped when it was realized that one of the primary causes of blindness in premature babies was the oxygen rich incubators they were placed in to prevent blindness. Medical practice evolves based on evidence…but it continues to be primarily dominated by best guesses without solid evidence base. In this psychiatry is no different than any other medical science.

                1. Absolute BS. Just what scientific breakthrough do you think it was that got homosexuality depathologized?

                  The political and social climate made it no longer acceptable to smear these people.

                  My argument points out that the whole enterprise amounts to name calling based on behaviors someone doesn’t like.

                  “Psychiatric diagnosis is an evolving science that continues to make mistakes (like any science). When compared to other areas of medical science, it isn’t as far behind as you might believe, however.”

                  Oh really?! Is that why in the 60s they were using a book of labels and behaviors, and no other technology to ‘diagnose’ and in the 2010s, they are still using a book of labels and nothing else to ‘diagnose’.

                  Rather than talk about blind babies, what about your blind faith?

  44. Probably earlier than that.

    I concur. Personally, I don’t think his “Goddesses” are very pretty, but it’s his life and he can succeed or fail as he sees fit. I really don’t see the fracas here. How Mr. Sheen chooses to live his life is no concern of mine and I have rarely watched his show. And it’s interesting how it’s OK for women to move on to new veins of gold “greener pastures” and it’s “Yay! Girl Power!”, but when a guy does it, he is villain incarnate. Charlie’s just guilty of having his cake and eating it too, and that burns up a lot of busybodies.

  45. I hate you all. Put your willies away.

  46. I don’t understand the hating on AA. AA is a purely voluntary program. If you don’t like it, don’t fucking go. The only coercion involved is from judges, prosecutors, parole/probation officers and family and friends that force people to go to the meetings or face “dire consequences”.

    AA works for some people, and not for others. My Father has been sober for over 15 years with the help of AA. A friend of mine died from a heroin OD shortly after leaving a meeting.

    Only Sheen can decide if he has a “problem”, and only he can decide if he needs “help”. Now stop wasting my fucking time with this silly bullshit.

    Next.

    1. The only coercion involved is from judges, prosecutors, parole/probation officers and family and friends that force people to go to the meetings or face “dire consequences”.

      This is key, Mr. Whipple (you must be on smartphone, I don’t see your symbols); I wonder if all of these Drug/DUI/Veterans courts making the 12 Step meetings compulsory has lessened the efficacy of the 12 Step program. My understanding is that once one is willing to accept the program voluntarily, it is quite effective. I guess it’s like hypnosis and life: It only works on the willing and you get our of it what you put into it.

      Congratulations to your father, Mr. Whipple; may he have 15 more.

    2. The problem with AA is, instead of telling your father he had a bad habit and got too fond of the booze and needed more moderation in his life, it has got him believing that he is ‘powerless to his disease’ and if he ever touches another drink he will ‘relapse’.

      There is no evidence that people cannot turn their bad overindulgence into the occasional indulgence.

      Believing you are diseased and handing yourself over to a ‘higher power’ is something I could never swallow.

      The idea of being ‘sober’ for years and decades, is some kind of puritanical crap that says you can’t ever have the occasional drug or drink or cigarette, it’s just some kind of forced asceticism because why? because you’ve been trained like a monkey to believe you have a latent ‘disease’ ?

      The well rounded individual who does everything in moderation their whole lives is the most impressive guy.

  47. I detest “celebrities” – mainly because that are rich and are relentlessly showered with personal validation and therefore have grotesquely distorted sense of self worth while I am broke and receive exactly zero validation from the world. But I absolutely have to admire Charlie’s unwillingness to apologize for anything. My father in law thinks Charlie should get a lethal injection, not for any particular crime, mind you, just for being who he is. That’s enough for me to welcome having a Charlie Sheen in the world. God, can you imagine having enough dough to be able to moon the world and give society the finger and get away with it. I am green with envy.

    1. I think he’s just another junkie. He’s also an egotistical asshat but since he’s got good looks and money he gets “treatment” instead of hard time and a dead dog. While I honestly do admire his father for his acting abilities, I typically chalk this douche nozzle up there with paris hilton and boy bands.

  48. “He also shared with us some of what really went on that night last month when he was rushed to the hospital after a drug-filled night with porn stars.”

    “Your anger and your hate, I think, is coming off as erratic, to p-”

    “My passion, my passion, it’s all passion.”

    SZASZIAN HERO. Bi-winning for sure.

  49. Who is Charlie Sheen?

  50. Charlie Sheen: Bi-Polar D-Bag or Szaszian Hero?

    False dichotomy:http://mind.ucsd.edu/syllabi/98-99/logic/falsedichotomy.html

    1. Learn what a Szaszian Hero is before you make an ass out of yourself, assumption man.

  51. Follow me on the Twitter!

  52. My friend Ed Huser (who since changed his name to Hughes, not because of this but because he was tired of everyone misspelling or mispronouncing it) pointed out years ago that the only articles one was commonly described as a “user” of were computers and drugs. Since then some tried to popularize it for pornography too, but come on. For everything else there’s a more descriptive word.

  53. More disturbingly, his ability to avoid the sorts of regular-joe penalties for violent threats and actions is, alas, nothing new in a criminal justice system that enforces different codes of behavior for Sheens and the rest of us.

    Wait a minute there, Chuck…I give it a few weeks tops until he’s busted on some sort of drug charge specifically because of how viral/virile he’s become.

    Most regular Joe’s who are fucked up and/or violent don’t really pay any penalties, either…unless they screw with specifically with the cops or the court.

    1. That depends on how many feminazis are in your immediate social orbit.

      A feminazi will call the cops on the basis of a verbal argument.

  54. I want that t-shirt!

  55. Charlie has definitely thrown us off with some of his interviews and it’s very interesting and entertaining. He has everyone buzzing and wondering what he will do next, even me! Charlie news has been a little hard to follow for me though because I work full time and I am also a full time student. The good thing is that I work at Dish Network and I own a Sling Adapter so I am able to stream the news straight to my phone when I take my breaks at work or have time between classes. His quotes are priceless! I really am interested to see what he says and does next.

  56. There is no logical reason to try to psycoanalyze or validate Sheen’s behavior or posture regarding his life. Perception IS reality. The perception IS that Sheen is simply a silver spooned drug addict. No one can functionally effect that fact except Sheen. Historically, chances are that he will not and will expire within the year. Just isn’t rocket science !

  57. Nick, your comments are incredibly short-sighted. Charlie’s 9/11 Trutherism is refreshing, seeing as none of the big 3 networks want to tell us Americans the truth. The simple fact that you’re writing such drivel about Sheen shows that his effect has not been lost on you.

    Regardless of how he wishes to operate his private life, he has been a successful, profitable component to one of the US’s largest public companies. More than a drivel writing writer can say…

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