Teachers Leaving Their Kids Alone Reduces Union Propaganda Time
The Wisconsin teachers who skipped class in the past week are getting their pay docked and the doctors who issued them fraudulent notes are coming under fire. Here's the bright side to children losing days of learning: Less classroom time for teachers to feed the kids a whitewashed version of labor history. From The Daily Caller:
The Wisconsin Labor History Society recommends that, when teachers talk about labor unions and collective bargaining today, they use the following talking points:
1. Unions work closely in the community, are responsible for passage of key civil rights laws and other citizen protections.
2. Unions face greater employer challenges after President Reagan fired striking air traffic controllers in 1981.
3. Unions develop highly successful political efforts during last two decades of the 20th Century.
4. Organizing and aggressive political action became the top two priorities of the AFL-CIO with the election of John Sweeney as President in 1995.Another lesson plan recommends that students play a trivia game about labor union history and design patches for unions their parents may be a part of.
Bills requiring the teaching of labor history had bounced around the Wisconsin legislature for more than a decade, but one was only passed in December 2009 by Democratic majorities in both houses.
The Pennsylvania Independent brings us another heartwarming story of two fifth-grade teachers who wanted their students to appreciate their sacrifices. Their solution? Homework handouts:
The story comprehension assignment was a letter titled "It's Time to Pay the Price" and was a letter written by a "student" to the "editors" about how teachers are not paid enough, arguing they should be paid commensurately with doctors and lawyers.
The letter said "the average yearly salary for educators in our area is $29,000."
The average salary in Pennsbury School District is $81,040 with a total salary cost of $69,370,659 for 809 employees, according to the state Department of Education and sourced on OpenPAGov.org. The fifth-grade teachers who distributed the homework assignment - Maureen Laughead and Karen Despirito - make $98,222 and $81,869, respectively.
Here's the full letter and answer sheet. The district is currently engaged in contract negotiations with the teachers' union.
More from Reason on teachers' unions here.
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Here's a novel take on the Wisconsin teacher's strike.
Lemme guess, it's the darkies' fault?
@Hugh Akston
With Slappy, it's ALWAYS the darkies' fault. Why else would he support white nationalist fascists like the American Third Way?
Protest sign in a photo in the article:
"Care about educators like they care for your....[presumably kids]"
So we should care enough to not show up to give you your paychecks? Okay, you guys can keep your benefits and salaries, but we're going to be 'sick' when it's time to give that to you.
Change like to as, and then we'll talk.
Well they're only 5th grade teachers, you can't expect them to be able to do averages. That's like, college engineering level math.
It's not really $100G-$100G. After all, haven't you heard about the teachers who have to buy $100 worth of classroom supplies out-of-pocket because the school district is broke?
This blog shows a breakdown of the teachers' benefits, Despirito ends up with a $117,000 take-home, Laughead with $115,000.
Can we call them evil now?
And here I thought the $29k sounded high for 8 months of work
My sister (a hs math teacher) once tried to refute that by saying the amount of work they do in those 8 months is equal to a full year's worth of work.
Think of how many hours they spend developing that one lesson plan they use year after year after year after year....
Is your sister under the false impression that people in the private sector only work 40 hour weeks? HA!
If it requires engineering education, then I hope they have a certificate to prove they're able to give that-level of assignment to those kids.
Teachers gets money that they pay to unions who give the money to Democrats who then pay the teachers more so the teachers give more to the unions who give more to the...
Perpetual money machine!
We're all teachers now -- we can force the Chinese to pay our pensions since they are the new economic superpower.
Can we form a taxpayers union?
...because it would unfairly exclude non-taxpaying recipients of govt largesse.
National Taxpayers Union count? http://www.ntu.org/
A nationwide taxpayer strike would certainly result in higher pay. At least for those of us with private sector jobs.
Unfortunately, libertarian "hero" Friedman sort of boned us on that count. We'd pretty well all have to become self-employed for that to work.
Never, ever, ever, EVER let your kids near a public school. Ever.
One of my "friends" on Facebook (in reality the wife of a casual acquaintance) posted a link to some restaurant in Madison that people have been ordering lunches from to send to the protesters and she encouraged everyone to do the same. I've been trying to come up with a compact, succinct statement to post as a comment that sums up the irony of a married individual, filing jointly and claiming a dependent, agitating for generous public school teacher benefits among her mostly single and childless social circle, but I've been having some difficulty since one of my eyes keeps violently twitching for some reason.
"Fuck those greedy parasites. I hope they starve."
For anybody wondering...
http://www.facebook.com/IansPizzaOnState
I wonder how much extra they'd charge to spit into the sandwiches.
Ask her to donate to your nascent "Penicillin for Strippers" fund, in order to make The Golden Banana a more healthy and enjoyable experience for all.
+100
...about the free food.
Maybe it's a really shitty restaurant?
I'll add to this. One of my acquaintances on Facebook who quit her job because she doesn't want to work and admits to wanting to be a "kept woman" complained about Planned Parenthood funding being cut and not being able to afford her health care costs.
Wtf is a "kept woman"?
A bottom.
An...interesting website
The first page is SFW.
Wtf is a "kept woman"?
A wife, mistress, or girlfriend whose primary function is to waste your money for you on things you don't like.
Isn't that redundant.
Seriously? If the earlier answers haven't cleared it up, it's a charmingly old-fashioned term for a woman who is "kept" in style by a wealthy man (or nowadays I suppose a wealthy woman) for sexual purposes.
Otherwise known as a wife or ex-wife.
Otherwise known as a wife or ex-wife.
Depending on your alimony payments, this is a distinction without a difference.
I'd like to place an order for a Get the Fuck Back to Work Burger with a side of And Stop Stealing My Money, Asshole Fries, please.
Am I the only one sick of politically motivated name changes for fries?
Or, as the private sector calls it, the #1 daily special.
As somebody going to school in Wisconsin, all the statuses I see are links to Paul Krugman's "Wisconsin Power Play." It's sad.
The Chicago History Museum had a little display section featuring "education" about unions and riots at the hay exchange. They were playing a video containing an audio reenacted speech by some pinko fuckhead leader. I saw a hipster couple holding hands as they watched with tears of joy. I wanted to puke.
Was the hipster girl good-looking? I can fake some tears of nostalgic sympathy if it gets me some liberal goodies.
This is how I justified going to a cold-weather climate liberal arts college.
Wait...something's funny here. There were good looking girls at your cold-weather liberal arts college?
"Bills requiring the teaching of labor history had bounced around the Wisconsin legislature for more than a decade"
A law is unnecessary. My experience with public schools showed me that almost every teacher was more than willing to share any and all of Team Blue's talking points, union history and otherwise.
But it's not just almost every teacher, it's almost every person. Same as in the thread about Mitch Daniels, these are perfectly avg. beliefs. So you're right, a law is unnecessary, but then, so are schools. Their parents would tell them the same thing.
If you ask most people about labor unions, they'll all agree that at least in the past they were a good & necessary thing. (And "the past" is a time that keeps moving forward with the present.) Where they'll disagree is about how good unions have been over the past decade or so -- whichever decade is the past decade or so. And I think we can get along fairly well in such an environment.
Re: Robert,
Which indicates the Public School system has acuieved its intended goal of making people believe rubbish as history.
The same rubbish plays on every "channel", no worse in schools than anywhere else. If there were no schools, gov't or otherwise, they'd still believe the same. You credit the efficacy of schooling far too much.
WTF? Who thinks that unions are a good and necessary thing, or they ever have been? My parents never told me that crap...
Take a poll. Or read one.
Ya know, with the absolute cornucopia of laws we have available, there's no law against advocating the use of talking points as curricula? (sp?)
I had a teacher at Santa Monica College who used her Sociology class as nothing more than her way to socialize students, and I do mean socialize. She would show us videos of the history of the (failed) communist movement and of how the homeless have been shafted. She showed us a movie with the subtle propaganda title "Cover-Up" before the 1988 election. Most kids were really moved, but I remember some of us thinking that it was all a bunch of shit. I'd be interested to see what became of the students in that class...
Some of them are probably screaming spittle-laced rants and waving signs outside a statehouse somewhere as we type.
Hey, at least one of them is busy trolling on here.
Is sociology even relevant as a discipline anymore? I always thought of it as the ugly stepchild of the social sciences that gets locked in the basement whenever guests come over.
Most of the discipline's suffused itself into the rest of the humanities--just about every field of study in history, for example, is really nothing more than a glorified sociological construct at this point.
For example--a couple years ago, I went to the annual conference for the Western History Association. The theme was "Wired West," with the premise that the presenters would discuss various "networks" in western history and their impact on the region's development. I presumed, naively I suppose, that there would be a great deal of discussion on things like engineering and the military's role in the history and culture of the American West. Instead, 98% of it was the same old stereotypical, self-indulgent Academic Holy Trinity bullshit that's been de rigeur in the field for 40 years, most of which had very little to do with the actual theme of the conference.
As others have pointed out, the communist-oriented nature of the current educational industry is de facto--no de jure legislation is really necessary to keep the propoganda mill churning.
I remember them trying to cram Global Warming down my throat in 1989, 6th grade. We were all like, volcanoes dude.
+10 for the handle. You need a double D for a double does of your pimpin' style, however.
"Sociology? Oh, you'll go far."
Of course, there's history and there's history. I could come up with a curriculum on labor history that would have the SEIU pissing blood.
Has the SEIU had any legislation passed that bars non-union shops from pissing blood, or is pissing blood still open to all workers?
Double points for making the coalminers and Pullman porters look heroic while making the teachers and government employees look like the fucks they are.
I remember I used to be stricken with the disease of liberalism. I was a good little democrat and I loved unions. But it is hard to remain as such if you take a step back and look at just how transparent these assholes are in their quest for money and power.
"The letter said "the average yearly salary for educators in our area is $29,000."
The average salary in Pennsbury School District is $81,040 with a total salary cost of $69,370,659 for 809 employees, according to the state Department of Education and sourced on OpenPAGov.org."
OKay, maybe first year teachers only make 29,000 a year, after taxes, assuming they are paying the full amount with no deductions, but that is still not including benefits. Oh yeah, and they are also assuming that said teacher doesn't go to any paid trainings or take advantage of any stipends or summer school work. Maybe, just maybe, those numbers add up once you take all of the above into account.
First-year teachers make $45,000 in Pennsbury School District (see link below).
"the average yearly salary for educators in our area is $29,000.
The $29,000 figure comes from the letter that the students were given to "comprehend". It claims to be somewhere in Michigan. Had the teachers decided to be a little more forthright and created a letter using their own salary scale they would have had to spend a few minutes writing it.
They're still conflating public and private sector labor unions.
It's all the rage this week.
I don't know of any unions who are exclusively one or the other. I know the big ones swing both ways.
So, its actually misleading not to "conflate" them. The SEIU has both pubsec and private sector workers.
The president of the North Carolina NAACP claims that the laws our state have against public employee collective bargaining were just another Jim Crow era racist measure. How stupid and lacking in integrity do you have to be to make a statement like that and not feel embarrassed about it?
Re: alan,
Well, enough to be the president of the North Carolina chapter of the NAACP, I fancy...
Dude... racist...
Re: Trespassers W,
I have no power, therefore I cannot be racist - the president of the national NAACP told Bill O'Reilly exactly that himself. QED.
North Carolina banned public sector bargaining in 1959...this guy sounds pretty ignorant.
Because teaching rubbish hangs on the same productive rung alongside curing illness and defending one in court...
Come on, if they aren't paid commensurately, how else are teachers going to pay for six years of undergraduate education?
It takes 6 years to "learn" that Unions paved the way to an economic miracle?
Maybe it's not so much studying as being programmed - because it takes time to break a person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qLzQ4uOvio
all class sizes to 500 students in an amphitheater.
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"all class sizes to 500 students in an amphitheater."
They could fire the incompetents and reward the good ones and keep the same class sizes.
But that wouldn't fly with the propaganda, would it?
Shyeah, like an ed major even knows what "commensurately" means.
Think of how many hours they spend developing that one lesson plan they use year after year after year after year....
Hey, splitting a thirteen chapter book into eight months' lesson plans is complicated!
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"Sociology? Oh, you'll go far."
My nephew has a degree in sociology. I'm pretty sure he picked that because he thought it would allow him to hone his skills at getting other people to do shit for him.
They're still conflating public and private sector labor unions.
Whining at a school board meeting is *just like* hand-to-hand combat with The Pinkertons.
She showed us a movie with the subtle propaganda title "Cover-Up" before the 1988 election. Most kids were really moved, but I remember some of us thinking that it was all a bunch of shit.
Related cool-story-bro:
My civics teacher in '84 was a defected Russian scientist who thought Mondale was a world-historical villain, because back when this teacher was deciding to defect someday, the Russian state media was full of praise for Mondale's heroic and tireless efforts to stop America from landing the first man on the moon.
Assholes' pompous children got yelled at. That was nice.
Mondale tried to stop the Apollo program?
He led the investigation into the Apollo 1 fire and called NASA criminally negligent. There were intimations he wanted the entire program shut down.
only Republicans can be anti-science.