Keith Olbermann - A Memorial Tribute

Reason Staff | 11.5.2010 9:59 PM

Reason.tv presents a tribute to Keith Olbermann, who was suspended indefinitely by MSNBC for violating company ethics policies by making unauthorized donations to three Democrats seeking federal office earlier this year.

He will be missed.

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? 15 years ago

So, just how long do you think his vacation will be?
1. Tman 15 years ago
  
  I think he's burnt his last bridge at MSNBC. He's never going to find another major news network that will put up with his blatant partisan diatribes disguised as Murrow-esque truthiness.
  
  It was bad enough that msnbc -MSNBC!!- couldn't defend his hypocrisy, but even comedy central wouldn't pretend that he's imparti-..........oh wait.
  
  Yeah, that's totally where he's going.
  
  Next on Comedy Central:
  
  LEWIS BLACK AND KEITH OLBERMAN ARGUE FOR TEN MINUTES AND THEN WE WEIGH WHO PRODUCED THE MOST SPITTLE!
  1. billy-jay 15 years ago
    
    Fox News needs to hire him.
    
    Make it happen, Fox!
  2. sevo 15 years ago
    
    Neither Lewis Black nor Olberman are capable of anything like "argument". At least Black admits he's a comedian. But he's equally execrable.
  3. Maxwell 15 years ago
    
    uh, Tman ... you're not seriously one of these people who's OUTRAGED ! that a cable news host has political opinions right? I mean, it's 2010 and we're still playing this game where we all pretend the guy with the multi-million dollar contract never even thought about politics before he landed the job, and certainly has no opinions or perspectives of his own.
    
    OMG OLBERMAN'S A DEMOCRAT ! Who knew? Who fucking cares? Next you'll tell me Hannity kinda likes Republicans some times.
MNG 15 years ago

What a big "meh." He gave some of his personal money to three Democrats (hardly three of the most liberal ones you can imagine at that). I have to be honest, I could care less if Hannity or O'Reilly gave money to GOPers. To be further honest I wouldn't care if any journalist gave money to any candidate, as long as they tried to play it fair in their job as a journalist.
1. sevo 15 years ago
  
  MNG|11.5.10 @ 10:10PM|#
  "What a big "meh."
  
  "Olbermann acknowledged to NBC that he donated $2,400 apiece to the campaigns of Kentucky Senate candidate Jack Conway and Arizona Reps. Raul Grivalva and Gabrielle Giffords.
  NBC News prohibits its employees from working on, or donating to, political campaigns unless a special exception is granted by the news division president ?"
  
  Yep, violating your contract is worth a 'meh' from those who, what, find contracts bong-lighters?
  1. MNG 15 years ago
    
    OMG! OMG! His CONTRACT!
    
    Still "meh" Contractarian. Besides, the point of my post is that such a contract provision for such an employee is silly.
    1. jackrungh 15 years ago
      
      It may be silly, but it is the contract he signed. I don't have a problem with TV personalities donating money to candidates either, but they need to consider that such donations might tarnish their journalistic creds. That said, Olbermann is not a journalist so much as a bloviating buffoon, and I celebrate his violation of contract with glee.
      
      MNG, I don't think that even you could justify government not enforcing that contract simply because it has a silly clause. Then again, my prejudice makes me think that you probably supported GM's secured creditors getting the shaft when poor, oppressed union workers could have suffered. Maybe I'm wrong about that one though.
      1. MNG 15 years ago
        
        I think people can and should be held to contracts for the most part, I just think it is a goofy contract provision.
        
        sevo 15 years ago
        
        So if one party decides, in their stupidity, that a portion of the contract is "silly", it's perfect;y OK to ignore it?
        I'd comment on your integrity if I thought you had any.
        
        tkwelge 15 years ago
        
        That isn't what MNG is saying. I agree with him that it is a stupid provision. True, it is in his contract, so he gets what he gets, but that doesn't mean that I'm happy. I don't like to see my enemies punished on a technicality.
        
        Tara 15 years ago
        
        I think he's saying that it's silly of MSNBC to fire him over such a minor contract quibble.
        
        Personally, I think it's fairly obvious that they are firing him because he's ratings poison, and this breach of contract just has very convenient timing.
        
        Koch Suki 15 years ago
        
        His show is/was the highest rated on MSNBC, so that's not a valid reason.
        
        He probably pissed off his bosses and he'll be back in a week or so.
        
        LivinginSouthCarolina 15 years ago
        
        But not highest rated when compared to all the other media outlets,
        
        EVL29 15 years ago
        
        His show is/was the highest rated on MSNBC.
        
        Tallest midget.
        
        Anonymous Coward 15 years ago
        
        Then you should negotiate Keith's next one.
        
        At Costco.
  2. Tulpa 15 years ago
    
    But MSNBC promised him a job! A promise is more important than a contract!
    
    [impersonation of MNG from the GM secured creditors vs. UAW debate way back when]
    1. MNG 15 years ago
      
      My position is that a third party should not have their promises disregarded or demoted to a promise made by two other parties that the two parties designate as "special" (secured). If I have a contract with you, and you have a contract with a third party that designates that contract as "special" and superior to mine why should that affect our promise?
      1. jackrungh 15 years ago
        
        Except that designation of parties as secured or unsecured is ALSO a contractual obligation, and it requires no consent from the unsecured party. Secured creditors are given forfeiture rights to assets (usually) in the order of contract establishment, whereas unsecured ones are not, and are left with what remains.
        
        If I have a mortgage and $25,000 in credit card debt, my mortgage company is entitled to sell my assets to satisfy my obligation to them before the credit card company can. Aside from number of parties and complexity of finance, there is little difference in the basic legality.
        
        If the roles were reversed and somehow the UAW was secured, would you be advocating for the rights of investors? I think not.
        
        gnut 15 years ago
        
        > Secured creditors are given forfeiture rights to assets (usually)
        > in the order of contract establishment, whereas
        > unsecured ones are not, and are left with what remains.
        
        Unless the law gives preferential treatment to unsecured creditors.
        
        Which is why Heritage Lakes was able to seize Michael Clauer's $300,000 house which the Clauers owned free-and-clear.
        
        But to libertarians, any fine print in a document called a contract, even if it is was never signed and is unilaterally amendable by one party, will lead to situations where favored corporations
        
        have enormous power. In 33 states, they can foreclose without a court order over a few hundred dollars in unpaid dues.The process in Texas is especially quick?just 27 days. Texas HOAs have been bedeviled by allegations that they are taking advantage of the law. Some have even been accused of specifically targeting people who own their homes free and clear?like the Clauers did?so that they can flip the house and make a profit. Until the laws are reformed so that it's harder to take people's homes over a few hundred bucks, you're going to keep seeing these sorts of stories.
        
        To libertarians ignorant of Rational Choice Theory, the idea of "unconscionability" should not apply. In their Ayn Randian utopia, we'd all be subject to
        
        "repressive libertarianism," where certain people who call themselves libertarians invariably side with property owners who want to limit other people's liberties through the use of contract law. Property rights (usually held by somebody with a whole lot of economic clout) trump every other liberty.
        
        Darth Vader 15 years ago
        
        > unilaterally amendable by one party
        
        I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
        
        barfman 15 years ago
        
        *barf*
        
        Darth Vader 15 years ago
        
        > unilaterally amendable by one party
        
        I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
2. Sidd Finch 15 years ago
  
  Did Hannity or O'Reilly anchor election coverage? I don't really care either, but I suspect this has more to do with another identity change for MSNBC.
  1. JohnR22 15 years ago
    
    No Sid, they did not anchor Fox's election coverage. They did appear as pundits to express their opinions, but the anchors were the hard news guys which is the way it's supposed to be. Which is the way it was on EVERY SINGLE network...except MSNBC.
    1. JoshINHB 15 years ago
      
      Their coverage had a MST feel.
      With the open mocking of their guests and what not.
      1. Cuddly Soft Balls of Death 15 years ago
        
        A couple glasses of whiskey, a big stinky Honduran cigar, and hour after hour of the MSNBC crew shitting their pantsuits, while trying to keep their brave face on. I dreamed about it all day, and if anything, it was even more awesome than I had dared to hope. That was the most fun I've had watching TV in five years. I'm already looking forward to the next one.
3. prolefeed 15 years ago
  
  I agree about the 'meh'. It's a pissing match here between management and the worker about whether to enforce a stupid contractual term. Dunno if it will be all that easy to replace Olbermann with someone who can get comparable viewership, or whether one or both will make nice and get him back to work.
  
  * insert standard libertarian boilerplate here about how it's the employer's right to have and enforce random and idiotic contractual terms mutually agreed upon. *
  1. sevo 15 years ago
    
    "* insert standard libertarian boilerplate here about how it's the employer's right to have and enforce random and idiotic contractual terms mutually agreed upon. *"
    
    Which pretty much means the rest of your comment is worthless.
    1. Joshua Corning 15 years ago
      
      Which pretty much means the rest of your comment is worthless.
      
      Not in the least.
      
      If a man cheats on his wife everyone can agree it is legal to do so...we do not all have to agree it was the right thing to do.
    2. JohnD 15 years ago
      
      Wrong Sevo! Olb signed the contract. Whether it is stupid or not is not relevant.
      
      I for one, will NOT miss him.
      1. sevo 15 years ago
        
        John,
        I'm arguing *your* side.
  2. DRM 15 years ago
    
    Thirteen days ago in the New York Times:
    
    Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC, and others strenuously object to the idea that Fox and MSNBC are opposite sides of the same coin. "Show me an example of us fund-raising," he said in a recent interview.
    
    Violating company policy is one thing. Violating it in a way that will embarrass your boss is another.
    
    And Griffin's boss up at NBC News had just "recently reiterated its rule that employees may not engage in political activity[.]" There was an exception carved out for commentators, but Olbermann has a journalist contract.
    1. Sidd Finch 15 years ago
      
      This could be because Olby is supposedly a journalist and it embarasses the hell out of NBC News. Or it could be because everyone at MSNBC and NBC hates him. Either way, the donation excuse is just that.
      1. marlok 15 years ago
        
        I assume that the real reason for the firing is because someone higher up doesn't like Olbermann and was looking for an excuse to ditch him. In terms of their lineup, his likability seems far less than Laurence O'Donnell or Maddow.
        
        CaptainSmartass 15 years ago
        
        This whole thing has "Jack Donaghy" written all over it.
      2. Cuddly Soft Balls of Death 15 years ago
        
        If they were capable of being embarrassed, they wouldn't have hired him in the first place.
    2. PapayaSF 15 years ago
      
      Good point about embarrassing the boss. Also, as someone elsewhere pointed out, suspending a $4(?) million/year guy without pay saves the company a chunk of change (about $11,000 a day).
      1. Ayn_Randian 15 years ago
        
        He makes 4 million a year for that? Hell, I could fake it twice as well for half as much.
        
        alien 15 years ago
        
        No you could not. The man is highly intelligent and I doubt you match it, nor would you have his chops. Sorry
        
        marlok 15 years ago
        
        "highly intelligent"
        
        I was gonna challenge this, but usually this phrase is reserved for advanced alien species, so I'll allow it.
      2. Billy Shakespeare 15 years ago
        
        Good point about embarrassing the boss. Also, as someone elsewhere pointed out, suspending a $4(?) million/year guy without pay saves the company a chunk of change (about $11,000 a day).
        
        I'll do it for half that, starting out.
        
        To bloviate or not to bloviate, that is the question.
    3. Bill Dalasio 15 years ago
      
      Yeah, because if it hadn't been for this revelation, I would have assumed Keith Olbermann had no political agenda and was just playing it all straight down the middle. Good thing he's gone. Can't have anything like political bias interfering with the honest and objective analysis we get from Maddow, Chris Matthews, Schultz or O'Donnell.
    4. MNG 15 years ago
      
      "Violating it in a way that will embarrass your boss is another."
      
      OMG, you embarrassed your beloved boss!
      
      Sometimes you guys can be regular toadies I tells ya.
      1. JohnD 15 years ago
        
        MNG, if you had ever had a real job, you would understand it's not wise to embaress the boss. Right or wrong, it's the sign of a stupid, arrogant person to do so.
        
        MNG 15 years ago
        
        I have a real job, and I don't have to be a syncophant for my boss. I offer him my skills and time and he pays me, we both are winners. Boss worship is for toadies.
        
        capitol l 15 years ago
        
        Minge, you are being especially obtuse today.
        
        So, if I say: "If you publicly embarrass your boss, then you will most likely be fired.", then I am a boss worshipping toadie. Nope, you are wrong minge.
        
        This is just a known fact, and stating it does not implicitly, or explicitly, endorse it.
        
        Besides, you are Mr. Sanctity of Contract when it comes to six-figure city stiffs.
        
        MNG 15 years ago
        
        It's one thing to say it is not wise, it is another thing to say it is some horrible wrong.
        
        capitol l 15 years ago
        
        The only place that those things were said is in your own mind.
        
        BeltwayLurker 15 years ago
        
        Being an ass on H&R does not constute a real job no matter what Welch is paying you.
        
        MNG's Boss 15 years ago
        
        MNG, you're fired!
        
        Brian D 15 years ago
        
        I imagined this in Mr. Spacely's voice from the Jestons.
        
        Brian D 15 years ago
        
        I imagined this in Mr. Spacely's voice from the Jetsons.
        
        Jim Treacher 15 years ago
        
        Don't forget to wipe down the fry machine.
      2. Anonymous Coward 15 years ago
        
        qui facit per alium, facit per se.
  3. mad libertarian guy 15 years ago
    
    Dunno if it will be all that easy to replace Olbermann with someone who can get comparable viewership
    
    You mean MSNBC may not be able to find someone who will draw 3 viewers a night?
    
    Man, they suck more than I thought.
    
    Besides, MSNBC, like FOX, is nothing more than a circle jerk anyways. The people who watch MSNBC will watch whothefuckever they put in KO's place.
    1. BeltwayLurker 15 years ago
      
      Before he got there they only had one viewer.
      1. Butch 15 years ago
        
        bahahahaha
4. Joshua Corning 15 years ago
  
  MNSNBC can fire and hire who they want for what ever reason they want. But yeah it is very lame policy.
  1. Anonymous Coward 15 years ago
    
    So you won't be working for MSNBC as a "journalist" then?
    1. Joshua Corning 15 years ago
      
      So you won't be working for MSNBC as a "journalist" then?
      
      As i have no experience talent or training as a journalist plus the fact that i have a job in completely different profession...
      
      ...my guess is probably not.
5. John C. Randolph 15 years ago
  
  He gave some of his personal money to three Democrats
  
  More to the point, he failed to perform according to the terms of his contract, so they canned his ass.
  
  -jcr
6. J sub D 15 years ago
  
  I agree with you, MNG. I just don't give a crap how some commentator on the idiot box spends his or her disposable income.
  
  Olbermann is an insufferable ass but that's beside the point. MSNBC has a serious case of rectal cranial inversion if they think this asinine policy is somehow going to convince the viewers (and we're talking literally dozens of people) that they are fair and impartial disseminators of news and commentary.
Anonymous 15 years ago

Fart
dennis 15 years ago

Does anyone else find his latter day Edward R Murrow shtick to be the worst thing about him?
1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
  
  Same here, but I'll have less of a problem with it if he starts chain smoking through his entire broadcast when he comes back from vacation.
  
  Earn it Keith.
2. Caleb Turberville 15 years ago
  
  No. The worst think about Keith is how he using a sarcastic tone of voice when relaying the latest, convoluted, Democratic conspiracy theory about the right...BUT HE'S ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS!
  
  Uh, Keith, you're doing it wrong.
3. Mr. FIFY 15 years ago
  
  Edward R. Murrow be rollin' in his muthafuckin' grave, by being compared to That Fuckstain Olbermann.
  
  Oh, and Matt Drudge: No one's buying your version, either. No one sane, anyway.
  1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
    
    Goddamnded Drudge!
    
    Providing links and such. Blocking the actual truthiness of the rest of the inernet for the rest of us with his gawdy page of simple links to other websites.
    1. Joshua Corning 15 years ago
      
      truthiness
      
      Someone used the word "newsy" in another thread.
      
      If everyone continues this trend of sounding like Buffy the Vampire Slayer characters i swear to fucking god i will freak the fuck out!!
    2. JohnD 15 years ago
      
      LOL! How dare Drudge link to other sites with various viewpoints!
      I never understood the anger the libs express against Drudge. Still don't.
      1. Mr. FIFY 15 years ago
        
        I meant his old-timey press guy schtick.
  2. MNG 15 years ago
    
    "Oh, and Matt Drudge: No one's buying your version, either. No one sane, anyway."
    
    Yeah, but the hat is a nice touch though.
    
    I actually do like how Drudge inspires pompous reflections by the professional journalists on the sancitity of their profession.
    1. Mr. FIFY 15 years ago
      
      That's what I meant earlier... the hat, the whole 1940s-style reporter schtick.
      
      Still, I'll take him over MediaMyrmidons any day of the week.
4. wingnutx 15 years ago
  
  He's more of a Bill McNeal ripoff in the first place.
HarryS 15 years ago

Actually, anyone from MSNBC who participated in their Election Night Coverage should be suspended without pay. That was the saddest thing I have ever seen on television.
1. mad libertarian guy 15 years ago
  
  But Democrat tears are so yummy.
  1. BeltwayLurker 15 years ago
    
    Welch, are you picking on the children again?
2. marlok 15 years ago
  
  I approve fully of their hilarious election night coverage. When the poo hits the fan, those liberals can really put on a wild show.
Ken Shultz 15 years ago

Am I the only person here who finds it ironic that the network that hired The Weigel--despite it all--is the same network that's firing Olbermann for...

Wasn't The Weigel on Olbermann's show once? Over this very issue? That's gotta be stickin' in at least one of Olbermann's dozens of craws.
1. Suki 15 years ago
  
  It was Weigel's feature about Lobster Girl from another thread.
sevo 15 years ago

Ahhhm, scoop...:

sevo|11.5.10 @ 4:23PM|#
And since this thread is on its way to oblivion:
"NBC suspends Olbermann for donations"
" "Mindful of NBC News policy and standards, I have suspended him indefinitely without pay."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....245D05.DTL
Or your fave AP reseller.
(see http://reason.com/blog/2010/11.....o#comments )
1. db 15 years ago
  
  Uh, what?
  
  In Defense of Keith Olbermann
  
  Posted on November 5, 2010, 2:08PM | Michael C. Moynihan
  
  http://reason.com/blog/2010/11.....-olbermann
  1. sevo 15 years ago
    
    Nuts, missed it....
Chony to the Max 15 years ago

It is too bad that he has been suspended. Voices of reason are becoming increasingly rare, and the ones left are being drowned out by the shrill, irrational cries of the "tea party" libertards.
1. get a clue moron 15 years ago
  
  Up thy ass with Mobil gas - happy motoring!
  1. Vinnie Barbarino 15 years ago
    
    Yeah? Well, up your gizzard with a thunder lizard!
2. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
  
  For a "voice of Reason" he sure posted on this site infrequently. Did he not know he was a "voice of Reason"?
  1. BeltwayLurker 15 years ago
    
    He comments here as MNG, Tony and Chad. Expect more during the vacation.
3. a penny a day keeps Obama away 15 years ago
  
  libertards?
  
  Really - that's the best you got?
4. JohnD 15 years ago
  
  Hey Chony, is that scarcasm or are you serious? You may very well be the first person I've ever heard say the the Olb is a "Voice of Reason". Who's your other hero? Franken? Biden?
  
  Moron.
  1. Tulpa 15 years ago
    
    Chony never refers to himself as Chony.
5. capitol l 15 years ago
  
  Yes guys, Chony to the max, is a real troll, but he is no regular troll. He is the mecha troll that is assembled from the various other trolls. A super-troll as it were.
  1. KPres 15 years ago
    
    A Voltroll?
6. mr simple 15 years ago
  
  I thought the comment was over the top, but apparently this was a good spoof troll; you got a lot of bites.
Caleb Turberville 15 years ago

Does MSNBC seriously believe that we didn't already know Olbermann was biased, liberal schmuck?
1. Max 15 years ago
  
  Exactly. Just like we know for certain that you're a sniveling right-wing asshole.
  1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
    
    Fart.
    
    And that can't be stressed enough here.
  2. Max 15 years ago
    
    But it's okay to be a sniveling LEFT-wing asshole. I should know.
    1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
      
      At least you're honest about it.
      
      Fart.
2. Chony to the Max 15 years ago
  
  You can't be biased if you only speak the truth. Oh, right, the libertards can't handle the truth, so they think anyone who speaks it is biased.
  1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
    
    Biased^^^
    1. Banjos Kick Ass! 15 years ago
      
      Fart
      1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
        
        Da da ding ding ding ding ding ding...
        
        Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
        
        ding.
        
        Sorry, short a ding.
  2. a penny a day keeps Obama away 15 years ago
    
    libertard?
    
    You need some new writers you statist hack.
J 15 years ago

I hadn't noticed that one of the people he donated to was Rand Paul's opponent. That makes it all even better.

It's also funny how Keith must have known something that even many conservatives don't: Paul was one of the few from the GOP who was actually likely to cut any spending in any way significant.
1. marlok 15 years ago
  
  Coincidentally, he's also the least likely to be a saber-rattler once he's in.
2. FreeLibertine 15 years ago
  
  Olbermann has learned the hard way, don't fuck with Aqua Buddha.
hmm 15 years ago

This is one of the dumber things GE has done.

But if GE is going to do stupid shit and fuck someone, there's no better person to fuck than Olberdoodle. Unless we can get Immelt "suspended indefinitely."
1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
  
  Isn't Immelt on his way to India for teh festival of lights and some curry-steeped bidness? Who could his travel-mates be?
  
  Again, fart...
2. limping walrus 15 years ago
  
  there's no better person to fuck than Olberdoodle
  
  That is something that has never, ever been said or written before, even out of pity.
3. Me Whipple 15 years ago
  
  Was it GE, or was it Comcast? When are they scheduled to take over? Think they have some say already on operations?
  1. Mr Whipple 15 years ago
    
    WTF. Spelld my naame wron, againn.
4. TDL 15 years ago
  
  GE? What you mean to say is Comcast. Immelt never had any operational control anyway, that's now how GE CEO's operate.
  
  http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/0...../index.htm
Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago

How long do we have to wait until Keith comes out? Is this why he is taking some time off?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRmfQhkTO3E
1. Pancho 15 years ago
  
  Olbermann used to fuck Laura Ingraham. If he has turned gay its her fault.
  1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
    
    Try following the link next time. It rounds out the joke.
  2. JohnD 15 years ago
    
    HA! He isn't man enough for Laura. She could emascalate him with a look.
Collapse The Drug War 15 years ago

This is all so ridiculous. Giving money to a political campaign doesn't in any way make you less objective. It is merely an indicator of what your political views are. If you are barred from giving money, that won't somehow magically make you a perfect (and mythical) objective journalist.
Receiving money from a politician, or politcal group, on the other hand, should be barred (or clearly disclosed), as that certainly could shift a newsperson's bias.
Of course, any private news organization has the right to make any stupid rules that it wants to, so I'm not too upset about Olbermann being suspended.
1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
  
  THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!
  
  but I'm not too upset..
2. Fatty Bolger 15 years ago
  
  The objective is not to be objective. The objective is to appear to be objective.
Wind Rider 15 years ago

The dumbass shoulda stuck with sportscasting. He was actually sorta good at that. Maybe while he was doing that he wished he could run out onto the field and actually play. He got his dream fulfilled by jumping into political coverage/commentary, even if it did come off like a three year old wandering out onto the interstate.
1. Mr Whipple 15 years ago
  
  He was actually sorta good at that.
  
  Agreed
Caleb Turberville 15 years ago

Olber Man!
NotLinky 15 years ago

Okay, Moynihan defends Olberman, and this tribute seems to be sarcastic. I'm confused - am I supposed to be relieved or outraged by his suspension?
1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
  
  That question totally hinges on where you come down on the whole SF Happy Meal issue.
  
  Robble robble...
2. a penny a day keeps Obama away 15 years ago
  
  Think for yourself!
smartass sob 15 years ago

(sniff) Perhaps he can get a job on Fox. (sniff)
1. Wind Rider 15 years ago
  
  They contract out for janitorial services, probably.
2. J 15 years ago
  
  Fox should offer him Colmes old position opposite Hannity. He'd never take it, but the insult and humiliation of such an offer would be priceless.
  1. Anonymous 15 years ago
    
    I hated Frogface.
  2. Entitled Slacker 15 years ago
    
    He can always grow back his John C. Holmes mustache and do goat porn.
  3. Suki 15 years ago
    
    McDonald's should offer him a McRib.
  4. Ted S. 15 years ago
    
    I wouldn't mind seeing Hannity and Olbermann beat each other to a bloody pulp.
  5. marlok 15 years ago
    
    I actually really like the idea of Hannity and Olbermann. They're both loathesome, and even when I agree with something they say I hate how they argue it.
    
    Plus, it would be really strange seeing Olbermann in a situation opposite someone who disagrees with him. Hannity used to have Colmes, but Olbermann has only had brief co-appearances with Scarborough. The two echo chambers should be merged.
Brandon 15 years ago

I take issue with the fact that Olbermann's face didn't pop up at the very end to scream "NOT!". Hire some new video editors, Reason.tv.
Draco 15 years ago

"Tell me Mr. Roark, what do you think of me? I'm dying to know," prattled Olbermann.

"But Mr. Olbermann, I don't think of you" said Roark.
1. Ayn_Randian 15 years ago
  
  Bzzt. Someone in favor of government-controlled currency and TARP does not get to quote Objectivism.
  1. tarran 15 years ago
    
    I've never understood why people accuse objectivists of being rigid...
    1. Ayn_Randian 15 years ago
      
      I have never understood why being intellectually and philosophically "rigid" is viewed as a bad thing.
  2. Xeones 15 years ago
    
    Bzzt. Objectivism doesn't cancel out freedom of speech.
    1. Ayn_Randian 15 years ago
      
      So..wait...are you trying to stifle my "freedom of speech"?
      
      How ridiculous. We could do this all day.
  3. Tulpa 15 years ago
    
    Someone whose philosophy is spread by a publicly available book does not get to control who quotes from that book.
    
    Maybe you guys need to get together with the Scientologists to make sure your sacred writings are not publicized by the unworthy.
    1. NotLinky 15 years ago
      
      Tulpa, Tulpa, Tulpa,
      
      You're glib.
Joshua Corning 15 years ago

He should not have been fired. MSNBC can fire who it wants still it is a really fucking lame policy.
1. J 15 years ago
  
  They didn't fire him because "suspended indefinitely" is essentially meaningless, since they can bring him back anytime. They're just waiting for this to blow over so they can bring him back.
  
  They were most likely using him as a pawn, to show they are less "biased" then Fox.
2. Number 2 15 years ago
  
  Remember, this is the same network that fired Don Imus over his "nappy headed ho's" comment, allegedly to "show its employees" its "commitment" to a harassment-free workplace.
  
  Having said this, I still suspect it was an excuse to dump overpaid talent who's ratings did not justify his pay.
  1. Joshua Corning 15 years ago
    
    dump overpaid talent who's ratings did not justify his pay.
    
    If they do not have a clause in everyone's contract saying they can fire them for not getting ratings then it is no wonder MSNBC consistently gets its ass handed to it by Fox news.
    
    I suspect his contributions are the reason....choosing a positions that has more fallout then firing because his ratings suck seems kind of odd.
bagoh20 15 years ago

Why does a train wreck like Olbermann's show get such bad ratings? Usually the more ridiculous your crap is, the better the ratings. He should be killing them.
1. ? 15 years ago
  
  He was MSNBC's ratings leader. That's why he had such a long leash.
  1. Independent Texan 15 years ago
    
    Being MSNBC's ratings leader is about like being the star quarterback at Notre Dame. An increasingly irrelevant distinction.
    
    Oh, sorry NBC, for bringing up the Notre Dame reference.
Sidd Finch 15 years ago

How is it "lame policy" to ask for permission to give money to your interviewees?
1. Joshua Corning 15 years ago
  
  Cuz 2600$ is chicken feed.
  
  It is not as if you cannot deduce who Olberman supports from watching his show for 10 min. Contribution or no contribution.
  
  If MSNBC thinks that its viewers (and everyone else on the planet who know who he is) do not know Olbermann is biased then they need to give what they are smoking to Nick.
NadePaulKuciGravMcKi 15 years ago

Rachel Maddow Censorship

http://gators911truth.blogspot.....h-but.html
1. PapayaSF 15 years ago
  
  Ugh, it's sad to see so many people swallow the 9/11 conspiracy b.s. They are so easily countered with basic logic and basic physics.
  1. Sidd Finch 15 years ago
    
    Metal plasticity is a couple millennia removed from basic physics. Sad doesn't begin to describe these people.
    1. NadePaulKuciGravMcKi 15 years ago
      
      PapayaSF & Sidd Finch
      Protecting the Mass Murder criminals?
      Pretending to believe the official government 9/11 story?
      1. Tulpa 15 years ago
        
        Ron Paul never endorsed 9/11 Truth or even gave it any public consideration/question-asking etc. He just attracted a lot of supporters who believed it.
      2. jackrungh 15 years ago
        
        Tin foil manufacturers should advertise on the Alex Jones show, they would make a fortune.
      3. PapayaSF 15 years ago
        
        The main problem with the theories is that they make no logical sense. If "insiders" wanted to blow up the towers and blame terrorists, why not just do that? Why bother trying to recruit suicidal hijackers and hope they succeed in hijacking the planes and in hitting their targets (without severing the wires needed for the explosives)? Just rig the buildings, blow them up with everybody still in them, and blame terrorists. It's much simpler, much less to go wrong, and would produce a higher body count. (Of course, it's hard to rig a building for demolition without the people in it noticing, but that's another issue.)
        
        Sorry, the unarguable events of the day indicate it was not an "inside job."
        
        I'm Not Sure 15 years ago
        
        Your comment makes too much sense. You must be part of THE CONSPIRACY.
        
        PapayaSF 15 years ago
        
        Mwa-ha-ha!
        
        Seriously, though, I have the same problem with JFK conspiracies: if that was an inside job, why not just drop something into his coffee one morning or switch his meds? "A tragic heart attack, nothing suspicious." You're going to cover up the autopsy anyway, right? So what's the point of hiring an oddball loner and the guys on the Grassy Knoll, hoping they're all good shots and won't talk and won't be seen, and doing it in front of hundreds of witnesses?
        
        (I argued this on a BBS years ago, and the response was "they wanted to send a message." Er, what? A secret conspiracy wants to send a message by committing an assassination in public when they could have done it, you know, secretly?)
        
        Xenocles 15 years ago
        
        I still think South Park had the right take on the whole thing.
GROUPER 15 years ago

Michael Monyihan? Is that you? You suck, you conservative schill.
1. Your Mother 15 years ago
  
  Now, now Groper, what have I told you about sticks and stones.
2. Your Mother 15 years ago
  
  Now, now Groper, what have I told you about sticks and stones.
Mike Meyer 15 years ago

He'd be a great addition to Fox News, actually. They at least seem to feature dissenting voices from time to time, he'd make for interesting TV debating with some of those other asshats.
1. JohnD 15 years ago
  
  Actually Mike, they offer desenting voices more often than any other cable or network show. Not just "from time to time".
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

What on earth was the context of Olbermann blurting out "fart" on his show?
1. Rex Harrisons Hat 15 years ago
  
  Christine O'Donnel's concession speech.
  
  Makes sense, right?
Martin Owens 15 years ago

So, they say they miss him?

Next time close one eye.
a penny a day keeps Obama away 15 years ago

Oh, the humanity! The mighty Olbertard has struck out!
1. olbertard 15 years ago
  
  I sent that. Fart!
Bill S 15 years ago

Olbermann is a bitter partisan masquerading as a journalist. His ratings say it all.
1. Crid [CridComment at gmail] 15 years ago
  
  Isn't "bitter partisan" in his opening graphic sequence somewhere? I think he's loathsome, and the ethical stakes on this a nearly to wispy too measure. But when analysis IS made, this firing was a mistake... Like a busboy falsely accused to of stealing beer when the steakhouse is closed for the night and the cook has gone home.
  1. Tulpa 15 years ago
    
    Except for the fact that he actually did what he's accused of, which is kind of an important point.
  2. Reason Readin Female 15 years ago
    
    I worked at a hotel once where the bar manager caught a busboy stealing the O'douls!
    He was two kinds of stupid..
    1. sevo 15 years ago
      
      Which, if you think about it, is exactly the same as Olberman's transgression.
2. MNG 15 years ago
  
  I always find it interesting when people think that a news organization or show's ratings verify the accuracy and/or excellence of said organization or show.
  
  If that's the case then eat this conservative:
  
  http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2.....ng-adults/
  1. Craig Kilborn 15 years ago
    
    *cries*
Fluffy 15 years ago

MSNBC can hire and fire whoever they want for whatever made-up reason they want, but we can still use this occasion as another reason to not respect them, because they're simply lying.

People have complained in the past about Scarborough and Buchanan donating money and time to GOP candidates, and MSNBC issued official statements saying that their policy against doing so doesn't apply to opinion journalists.

There's no way - absolutely no way - that Olbermann wasn't an opinion journalist. Claiming he's not is like claiming Maddow isn't a lesbian.

I would respect MSNBC if they just came out and SAID, "He pissed off someone at corporate so they demanded we suspend him, when they would never have made the same demand about Scarborough". Tell the truth, and I'll insert the libertarian disclaimer. Be a little bitch about it and I won't.
1. MNG 15 years ago
  
  This, +1
2. JohnD 15 years ago
  
  Fluffy, he signed a journalist contract. These thing actually matter. If you weren't such a dewb you would realize that.
  1. sevo 15 years ago
    
    But, but....
    MNG says that part of the contract is "silly"!
    Doesn't that mean he can ignore it?
    Or does it mean MNG is a brain-dead ignoramus? You decide?
3. Mr Whipple 15 years ago
  
  From what I understand, Scarborough and Buchanan got permission up front. Olberman, being the weasel he is, went behind their backs.
GILMORE 15 years ago

Anyone notice this? =

About 100,000 people signed a petition circulated by a progressive group. "Free Keith Olbermann!" wrote David Weigel, a Slate columnist and a contributor to MSNBC, who called cable news an "ever-evolving petri dish of political/journalistic ethics."

It should be no surprise to people here Weegs sides with the "progressives"... but I'm still always a little amazed that his time @ Reason seemed to not rub off on him at all.

Also, I think it's honest of him to admit that cable news is just so much bacteria and fungus.
1. ? 15 years ago
  
  The "petri dish" line is a pretty good one. "Journalistic integrity" is still an inside joke at the few remaining "respectable" news organizations (and they, being a priesthood, take their oaths very seriously, wink wink) but their biases are well known to anyone who cares to listen, or cares at all. We peasants know when we are being lied to. We're just a little more forgiving over those lies we agree with. Few are innocent.
a penny a day keeps Obama away 15 years ago

Olbermann will soon have a job as the cable network interview show czar.
1. mad libertarian guy 15 years ago
  
  He can overlord us along with the Asian Carp Czar.
Griffin3 15 years ago

What? Why isn't Sarah Palin beating her First Amendment war drums over the hideous injustice being done by the firing of Keith Olbermann?
1. H&R Accounting Dept. 15 years ago
  
  Thank you for advertising on H&R. Is your check in the mail?
2. mad libertarian guy 15 years ago
  
  When you learn the difference between government curtailing speech, and curtailing speech agreed upon via contractual obligations, let me know.
  
  Run along now.
  1. capitol l 15 years ago
    
    Maybe he was making a reference to this incident.
3. JohnD 15 years ago
  
  This isn't a 1st amendment issue, fool. It's a contract issue.
Dramatic Chipmunk 15 years ago

Will I be missed, too?
1. mad libertarian guy 15 years ago
  
  That's some good shit!
Warren 15 years ago

News organizations prohibiting political donations is pure bullshit. It doesn't make you less partisan, it just makes you more dishonest.
1. JohnD 15 years ago
  
  Actually, Warren is right. But when you sign a contract you dasmn well better honor it. Not to say that some contracts have not been ruled invalid.
2. sevo 15 years ago
  
  Doubly dishonest when you ignore the contract.
MNG 15 years ago

Hey, saw this on the same site that had the Daily Show #1 among adult viewers post:

Eva Mendes Drops Ayn Rand's Name

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2.....f=obinsite

Mendes btw is super-hot.
1. marlok 15 years ago
  
  *Chris Tucker-esque* DAAAAAAAMN
2. marlok 15 years ago
  
  Unlike most super-hotties in film, she's actually been a series of good movies too: Training Day, Once upon a time in Mexico, and Bad Lieutenant 2 among others.
Dramatic Chipmunk 15 years ago

TJ from the Indo-Asian News Service.

Indian politicians are known for making impromptu long speeches and perhaps that is why some parliament officials, who did not wish to be named, sounded rather surprised with the idea of a teleprompter for Obama. "We thought Obama is a trained orator and skilled in the art of mass address with his continuous eye contact," an official, who did not wish to be identified because of security restrictions, said.

(Emphasis added.)
1. Xeones 15 years ago
  
  "We thought Obama is a trained orator and skilled in the art of mass address with his continuous eye contact,"
  
  Haw! Haw!
2. Winston Churchill 15 years ago
  
  They wouldn't let me use one in the House of Commons, and my speeches suffered. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am.
3. TDL 15 years ago
  
  Are there any trained orators in American politics anymore?
  1. ? 15 years ago
    
    We have as many trained orators as we have statesmen.
4. Tulpa 15 years ago
  
  Foreigners are so damned gullible, aren't they? Being taken in by an obvious huckster like Obama. We Americans would never... oh, wait.
  1. Cheerleader 15 years ago
    
    Gimme an H!
    H!
    Gimme an O!
    O!
    Gimme a P!
    P!
    Gimme an E!
    E!
    What's it spell?
    We don't know! We don't have a teleprompter!
5. dunut ho 15 years ago
  
  We thought Obama is a trained orator
  
  He is trained to orate. He is a pet Negro of the lefty hoity-toity trained to hoot out their accumulated wisdom.
  
  skilled in the art of mass address with his continuous eye contact
  
  A highly trained orator.
  1. alien 15 years ago
    
    Stupid and racist. GWB used teleprompter too. So what?
    1. dunut ho 15 years ago
      
      If you don't realize that Obama has been coddled his whole life because he is a Negro whom trust baby whites can keep around so that they can claim to have a black friend, then you haven't spent enough time on the campuses of the finer universities.
      1. Tulpa 15 years ago
        
        Uh, Obama was smacked around pretty good by the Chicago machine when he first broke into politics. There's plenty to loathe about the man, but this silliness about how he's been coddled all his life by people who thought he was the black Messiah is way off base.
    2. Barack Obama 15 years ago
      
      I am a tool.
Larry 15 years ago

I think Olberman is just a petty little creep but who cares if he made donations to liberal democrats? I would have assumed he was doing so. Who cares?
1. Xeones 15 years ago
  
  Who cares?
  
  His boss, obviously.
Tom Walls 15 years ago

Now Olbermann can spend his time looking for some younger men.
1. Rachel Maddow 15 years ago
  
  [raises hand]
JerryA 15 years ago

Yeah, we WILL miss Keith--- in the same way a 20 year cancer survivor misses cancer. (And I do apologize to cancer survivors the world over)
1. Kevin Garnett 15 years ago
  
  I didn't say he was a cancer patient, I said he was a cancer to his network and journalism in general.
? 15 years ago

Will his replacement be the guy from The Nation or the guy from Mother Jones?
1. capitol l 15 years ago
  
  They should get someone more toned down and serious, I was thinking that Max would do.
  1. Brian D 15 years ago
    
    Alan Grayson may have some free time soon.
    1. ? 15 years ago
      
      My choice would be Alvin Greene.
      1. BakedPenguin 15 years ago
        
        Greene would be running around, snacking on the food from the dressing room all the time and avoiding the camera. OTOH, Grayson and Olbermann would be constantly fighting it out, seeing which one could out-hyperbole the other on the impending disaster the Republicans were about to commit. A story about the Republicans fighting a bill to add $500 million in weatherizing credits to the budgets would become "Geezers in Freezers!" with hundreds of thousands of elderly dying in a holocaust winter caused by global climate change because the Evul Republicans also voted against cap'n trade!
        
        I mean seriously, which would be more entertaining?
        
        ? 15 years ago
        
        Greene, definitely. He wouldn't have to say a word.
        
        0x90 15 years ago
        
        New show: Going Green(e)
        
        i.e. Alvin Greene and Dennis Green co-host. Best show ever, guaranteed.
        
        Ragin Cajun 15 years ago
        
        Crossfire with Alvin Greene and Christine O'Donnell.
        
        ? 15 years ago
        
        ?Ay, caramba!
        
        Dennis Green 15 years ago
        
        Keith Olbermann is who we thought he was!
2. dunut ho 15 years ago
  
  I'm thinking Christine O'Donnell. Teaming O'Donnell with Maddow would create that male/female pairing that advertisers so crave.
  1. Mr. FIFY 15 years ago
    
    Wait, wait... what about the Rent Is Too Damn High Party guy?
    
    OTOH, after an hour of "the rent is too damn high", someone on the set might just grab something and beat him to death...
  2. ? 15 years ago
    
    Teaming O'Donnell with Maddow...
    
    ...would be like combining matter with antimatter. What could happen?
Yup 15 years ago

I didn't realize he was that damn funny, every time I passed the channel he was doing is worst/worster/worsterest segment and/or a recap of FoxNews. Keith, if I wanted to know what was going on with FoxNews, I would just watch it.
(Some other show besides RedEye when "the Jacket" is on.)
1. alien 15 years ago
  
  Not even remotely possible. No way he was always doing worst segment, nor were they devoted to Fox even a plurality of the time. Reason==Hyperbole?
2. ? 15 years ago
  
  MSNBC is obsessed with FOX News. And FOX mostly ignores them, which must make them even more insane. The best Rachel Maddow could do last night in defending her friend and fellow Democrat fluffer was to point out that some of FOX's employees do it too. But they don't have the same rules as NBC! It isn't fair!
lrh 15 years ago

Could this be a great publicity stunt by MSNBC brass and Keith? Make frowny faces at each other and cue up the Fox "hypocrisy" melody and the media sings along in a resounding chorus. Thus they give a show that's plateaued a ton of fresh market awareness. It would be brilliant... a thousand times better than the terrible ad campaign.
WhiskeyJim 15 years ago

Let's see. You couldn't find a guy that represented state media better than the Olbermann. So he gets suspended for supporting their political campaigns.

But that is what he gets paid for.

The whole world is jumping the shark. Is it 1984 yet?
WhiskeyJim 15 years ago

Let's see. You couldn't find a guy that represented state media better than the Olbermann. So he gets suspended for supporting their political campaigns.

But that is what he gets paid for.

The whole world is jumping the shark. Is it 1984 yet?
1. ? 15 years ago
  
  Yes.
  
  Yes.
valwayne 15 years ago

Mr Olberman is a disgrace to journalism. That's why he is on MSNBC in the first place. MSNBC certainly doesn't care about ethics, so maybe they just want to see if they can find somebody that will get better ratings. We'll see!
1. Independent Texan 15 years ago
  
  There will be quite a few new ex-Senators, ex-Governors and ex-Congressmen for MSNBC to choose from after last Tuesday.
Greg 15 years ago

Thank god he's gone. He was a pompous prick. I thought it was my fault after watching his election night coverage I wrote msnbs and said they should fire him.
JohnDavis 15 years ago

Sort of silly. I mean it is pretty obvious that Olberman is a Democrat shill. Is anyone really surprised that he donated to Democrats? It would be a surprise if he didn't. He basically campaigns for them on his show. So isn't it a little hypocritical of MSNBC to fire him for doing what everyone expects him to be doing? It's not like MSNBC even tries to be bipartisan anyway. He was more entertaining anyway when he had Bush to pick on. Maybe what really happened is that he has been losing his audience.
1. sevo 15 years ago
  
  "So isn't it a little hypocritical of MSNBC to fire him for doing what everyone expects him to be doing?"
  
  Regardless of MSNBC's bias, he signed a contract stating he wasn't to contribute without approval. He did so; MSNBC enforced the contract.
  What's so hard to understand here?
  1. Jim 15 years ago
    
    I think they were looking for a reason to get rid of him and they found a very convenient one.
    1. sevo 15 years ago
      
      And why would your hypothesis be worth beans?
      Are you familiar with the concept of a "contract"?
Dee Camp 15 years ago

He will be missed about as much as a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. No one considers him a journalist--he's a liberal ENTERTAINER. Journalists are intended to be unbiased--he never even pretended to be anything but a far left baffoon.
Brian Sorgatz 15 years ago

Does he mean "fart" as a noun or a verb? Is he telling us what to do or what he just did?
LivinginSouthCarolina 15 years ago

"He will be missed?

I watched him for 3 minutes two years ago,and then changed the channel. He was sickening in his lack of respect from anyone who was not a democrat, or who held liberal views.

Impartial, this man couldn't tell you what that means. He is like Phil Donehue: ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK.

I will pray for hime, but this is not a guy who boosts your company's ratings. If I owned a News company, I would not hire him. He is one the main reasons I don't watch MSNBC
jack matlin 15 years ago

It is great not to hear this idiot's rants. If MSNBC wants to hold the high ground by claiming not to be biased like the arch-enemy "Fox" then dipstick should have asked for permission to contribute to the candidates. I might start watching this network again, if they were to get rid of his puppy, Rachel Maddow as well.
1. Mr. and Mrs. America 15 years ago
  
  Dear MSNBC,
  
  We will watch your crappy "news" network when you eliminate Ed Schultz, Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell. Thank you for firing Keith Olbermann. It's a start. We would be very happy if you fired Dylan Ratigan as well but it's not a deal breaker. You can keep Tamron Hall but we would like her to start dressing like Nyota Uhura when she is working. We are waiting.
  1. Bruce Majors 15 years ago
    
    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/racistmsnbc/
hmrhonda 15 years ago

Perhaps he should stay off permanently. As said previously, maybe his one viewer will miss him. Hey, Keith, join the ranks of the unemployed. Dip into your retirement. You won't be missed.
hmrhonda 15 years ago

Yes, missed like a poke in the eye with a stick. I liked that comment.
hmrhonda 15 years ago

Maddow should be next. Viewership would increase. Leave Matthews on. He makes a fool of himself all the time. His show should be reclassified as "entertainment".
1. CM 15 years ago
  
  Ha!
2. Matthew Chris 15 years ago
  
  His show should be reclassified as "entertainment".
  
  That's just crazy talk.
Fluffy 15 years ago

Could one - just one, ANY one - of you guys claiming you know exactly what's in Olbermann's contract produce the copy of the contract you're reading from?

Or maybe a link?

Thanks.
1. sevo 15 years ago
  
  Check your fave AP reseller. AP claims the contract states 'no contributions without approval' and our dramatic chipmunk hasn't argued otherwise.
Jeffersonian 15 years ago

He will be missed.

That's too bad, 'cuz I was kinda hoping Olby'd go out like Howard Beale.
1. FTFY 15 years ago
  
  That's too bad, 'cuz I was kinda hoping Olby'd go out like Howard Beale William Foster.
  1. Mr. FIFY 15 years ago
    
    I'd give my next two paychecks to see and hear Ed Schultz repeat his "I'm going to torch this fucking place" line. On-air. Live. With a studio full of Catholic pre-schoolers.
Jim 15 years ago

Now that Keith is gone, what will the lunatic fringe do for a spokesman?
1. Jeffersonian 15 years ago
  
  They have a green room stuffed full of lunatics at MSNBC
Ellen K 15 years ago

As with Juan Williams, there were probably other key factors in place. They had removed him from football casts because he was distracting and people complained. His numbers were dropping and there have been continual murmurings of harassment and abuse. No matter what your position, if you thumb your nose at provisions in your contract and then fail to deliver on goals, you will lose your job. That it makes me laugh is just gravy.
happy boy 15 years ago

Missed...........not likely!
PARKER 15 years ago

I apologize for comparing Olbermann to Tokyo Rose. That's a serious insult - to Tokyo Rose.
1. Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvi 15 years ago
  
  MSNBC requires discipline in the ranks. I am the man to bring it.
You'll go blind! 15 years ago

Wait a minute! Rachel Maddow is a lesbian? No F'ing way!
Cmwcapstone 15 years ago

May he choke from his own bile!
Bruce Majors 15 years ago

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/racistmsnbc/
bob42 15 years ago

Breaking news:
Olbermann May Return After Anger Management Classes
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