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HHS: When We Said ObamaCare Would Provide More Choices, We Didn't Actually Mean It Would Provide More Choices

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FTW!

The Obama administration's Department of Health and Human Services disappears a promise from its website:

The Department of Health and Human Services quietly changed the web version of a speech in which HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius described how the health care overhaul is going to affect Medicare Advantage plans, a controversial section of the law, after aides to Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) challenged its accuracy.

Sebelius had told an AARP conference in Orlando last week that next year "there will be more Medicare Advantage plans to choose from," according to prepared remarks e-mailed to reporters and posted on HHS's website on Monday. Grassley's staff asked HHS to back up the statement, an aide to the senator, who has long been skeptical of Democrats' claims about the health law's impact, told POLITICO.

As Grassley's office was drafting a formal letter to Sebelius questioning the claim, the speech text was altered on the HHS web site without noting the change. The statement about more Medicare Advantage plans was deleted and now reads, "there will be more meaningful choices."

Does "more meaningful" mean "fewer"?

Some context on ObamaCare and Medicare here. More on ObamaCare and health plan changes here.

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  1. The Department of Health and Human Services quietly changed the web version of a speech in which HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius described how the health care overhaul is going to affect Medicare Advantage plans[…]

    Much like Stalinist-era photos were retouched when political unconditionals were “retired.”

    Same shit, different names.

    1. I was thinking more like Winston Smith’s job in 1984, but that works too, OM.

      1. That’s what I was thinking too.

        1. Probably overdoing quoting humpty dumpty, but if the shoe fits…
          “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean?neither more nor less.”
          “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
          “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master that’s all.”

    2. Damn, you beat me to it.

    3. First thing I though off.

      Quick – everyone, get out your paper and paste to cover up the pictures in the text books of those who turned out to be imperialist spies.

  2. Sebelius had told an AARP conference in Orlando last week that next year “there will be more Medicare Advantage plans to choose from,”

    “[…] once Obamacare is repealed.”

  3. Remember when the MSM was talking about how this administration was going to be so damned Internet savvy because the Obama campaign raised so much money online?

    Did they seriously think altering that line was going to make this issue go away?

    1. Why yes, yes they did.

    2. What are you talking about? We were always at war with Eastasiat

    3. The internet isn’t written in pencil, it’s written in ink.

  4. a controversial section of the law, after aides to Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) challenged its accuracy.

    “You Lie!”

    Nancy Pelosi: “Get his name! Now! And send him to my chambers cackle cackle.”

  5. I hear the chocolate ration is going up to 20 grams!

    1. Doubleplusgood!

    2. It went up 25 grams. Please report to the Ministry of Love.

      1. Why do you twits always invoke Orwell and compare 1984 to liberalism?

        1. Because it’s a good match?

        2. Big lies always get the Orwell treatment. Whether they come from the left or the right.

        3. The ability to draw parallels between differing but analogous concepts is one of those intellectual faculties they expect you to acquire before reaching adulthood. Ask your mommy to get you a practice SAT from the bookstore; it’s never too early to start studying!

        4. “”Why do you twits always invoke Orwell and compare 1984 to liberalism?””

          Did you ever read the book? Or see the movie? Because what was done here is damn near right out of the story.

        5. Re: Tony,

          Why do you twits always invoke Orwell and compare 1984 to liberalism?

          “What is the name of the whore that bore you?”
          “My mother is not a whore!”

          Holocaust, 1978.

          Yes, Tony, you ask just as loaded questions as the Gestapo official questioning James Woods…

        6. Because this administration is positively Orwellian in its devotion to style over substance, its ability to deny reality, and its desire to dictate and control every aspect of our lives.

  6. What we actually meant was more jobs for bureaucrats.

    A serious question, by what metric will the Dems measure the success of failure of this quintessential example of toxic sausage making?

    a) Lower health care costs as a percentage of GDP?
    b) Longer life spans?
    c) Cheaper health insurance?
    d) More comprehensive health insurance?
    e) The number of people on the dole (Medicaid and state run insurance pools)? ????

    1. the success of failure

      What an exquisite example of RC’s law.

  7. Isn’t this exactly what the pigs did to the words written on the side of the barn?

    1. Hey! No Animal Farming, we’re deep in 1984 territory here–you’ll upset Tony.

  8. Come now people, it wasn’t disappeared, it was corrected:

    “When HHS was alerted that there was an error in the prepared remarks that were posted online, we corrected it,” said HHS spokesperson Jessica Santillo.

    HHS said there was no recording of the speech to confirm whether Sebelius actually said the law would result in more MA plans or whether the mistake was just in her prepared remarks.

    I guess they’re counting on no AARP members knowing how to record with a cell phone.

    1. Little did they know that Howard Meltzer was able to smuggle in his wire recorder in a hollowed out wheelchair.

    2. So… they don’t know whether she actually lied, or just intended to lie but didn’t get around to it, basically?

  9. Rewriting history…surprise surprise.

  10. When Bush was accused of lying about the existence of Iraqi weapons programs in drumming up support for the subsequent war, a small number of administration apologists presented the faulty intel explanation. At least that seemed somewhat plausible. The current administration is brazenly lying through its teeth, and in regards to an issue that affects Americans much more directly and significantly, and yet no one seems sufficiently enthusiastic enough to hold their feet to the fire over it. What would their excuse be? “We made the best decision we could based on the evidence available at the time, but upon review it turned out to be nothing but rainbows and unicorn farts.”

    1. Let me know when 5000 Americans die young because of Obamacare.

      1. Shouldn’t take long.

        Obamacare pushes tens of millions into Medicaid, and there are studies showing you’ll get worse care as Medicaid beneficiary than as someone completely uninsured. Someone with mad math skillz could run the numbers, I’m sure.

        1. Like I said, let me know when 5000 Americans die young because of it.

          Note that I did not say “receive marginally worse medical care”, I said “die”.

          1. I’m sorry. I’ll sit back and wait for a body count before I criticize the ruling administration for their flagrant dishonesty.

            1. Criticize all you want, and I’ll be right there beside you doing the same.

              The problem is saying that the Iraq war is less destructive than Obamacare.

              1. The problem is that the Obama administration can’t offer anything of even marginal substance to justify their missteps. They just go back and change their previous statements or erase them altogether so that “we can be clear”.

              2. The problem is that you’re completely full of shit. Tulpa, please FOAD. Otherwise, we shall have to go into how canceling affirmative action programs is comparable to the Holocaust.

            2. Seriously. Notwithstanding the fact that dead people had absolutely nothing to do with the point of my post, where the fuck are my manners?

        2. “”Obamacare pushes tens of millions into Medicaid, and there are studies showing you’ll get worse care as Medicaid beneficiary than as someone completely uninsured. “”

          If we stopped giving services to freeloaders, it would no longer be true. Not that anyone that matters wants to stand up and say no pay, no service.

      2. Seriously? You knew the response to that before you typed it.

        1. Unfortunately, yes, I knew all too well what the Iraq war supporter* response would be: Obamacare bad dur dur dur dur. I mean, I agree that Obamacare is bad, but it’s not comparable to the insanity of Bush’s (and now Obama’s) wars.

          * at least until 1/20/2009

          1. Soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq signed up to be in the military knowing full well they could be called on to go to war. Obamacare is being pushed down the throats of a majority of people in this country who never wanted it.

          2. While it was not predictable that a pacifascist like you would start going on about Iraq, of all things, I guess we should have expected one of you treasonous “Bush Iraq War bad, dur dur dur dur” fuckbags to show up here. The only “insane” thing about “Bush’s wars” has been you pacifascists who wish Saddam Hussein were still in power and agree with Pat Buchanan that Hitler wouldn’t have been such a mean guy if we hadn’t antagonized him.

            Fuck you, Tulpa. I hope you end up being one of the 17,500 cancer patients denied Avastin by ZeroCare for your sleazy Bush-bashing bullshit. Also get your tongue out of Michael Moore’s ass, you pervert.

      3. Give it time. It’ll happen.

  11. Obama was done talking but never done “doing” the work. Oh yeah, he’d already started goofing up this country. Doctor I’m sick!

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  12. Note that I did not say “receive marginally worse medical care”, I said “die”.

    Marginally worse medical care = higher mortality rates = dead.

    So, its only a question of when, not whether. And with tens of millions of new Medicaid enrollees, it doesn’t take much of an uptick in relative mortality rates to hit 5,000 dead pretty quickly.

    1. You’re going to need a link to show that YOUNG people experience a large enough increase in mortality rate over the next ten years due to Obamacare to match the death total of the Iraq war.

      Hell, I’ll give you 100 years.

      1. What the hell does the Iraq war have to do with this?

        RC is right, as long as the freeloader option is available.

      2. Why ‘young’? Were ‘young’ people forced to join the military in the last 10–hell, I’ll give you 20 years? Or are the soldiers we have now people who applied for, trained in, and got the job of being a soldier(they are NOT ‘volunteers’–volunteers don’t get paid).

        See, I’m thinking you are so desperate to include ‘young’ because you know damned well that Obamacare is going to cut through the elderly like a scythe–the Obamacare death total could eclipse the Iraq totals in a year or so.

        And I know you don’t think that the life of the elderly doesn’t matter–you’re just counting on standard mortality rates.

      3. You’re going to have to FOAD, you traitor fuckbag. We don’t owe you purveyors of insane troll logic shit.

    2. EVERYBODY WHO OPPOSE FREE HEALTH CARE RACIST!!! BUSH LIED KIDS DIED!!! DEATH PANELS MYTH!!! DIE GRANDMA DIE!!!1!!!!11!1!1!1!!!!

  13. After the republicans get into power and modify it, we can drop the Obamacare name. Which, I think they will do before most of the law kicks in. By the time this thing is in full force, it will be fairly bi-partisan.

  14. The irony would be humorous if it weren’t so sad: The United Federation of Teachers, the New York City branch of the American Federation of Teachers, which pushed ardently for ObamaCare has now requested ? and received ? a waiver from its mandates.

    The UFT is a member of New York State United Teachers (NYSUT). In September 2009, the NYSUT’s website published “Health care reform: facts vs. myths.” Here’s an excerpt:

    Myth: Health care reform will force you out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.
    Fact: You can keep your existing insurance; reform will expand your medical options, not eliminate them.
    ObamaCare was such a great idea at the time – the AFT gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Healthcare for America Now, the leading organization pushing for the government takeover of health care.

    It was announced Thursday that the UFT has requested and received an Obamacare-waiver after it discovered their members would end up losing their health insurance plans. Uh oh.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/…..titialskip

    1. So they were right all along! They got to keep their plans!

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