Nothing Worse Than Having Your Name on an "Invade My House Constantly" List
Outrage o' the day, care of The New York Post:
A computer database glitch has sent police to the home of an elderly Brooklyn couple more than 50 times since 2002, sheepish cops admitted today.
Walter and Rose Martin endured the most recent raid on Tuesday, when four cops showed up looking for a suspect. Two officers broke a window in the back of their Marine Park home.
Link via Instapundit.
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Maybe it's time to move?
It would seem after going so many times to the same address they our paid servants to protect an serve should know they are going to the wrong place. If anything the owners should charge the city for the damages as well as the stress they are putting these people through. We have some serious issues going on they could better serve us doing ,this seems like such harrassment an mental anguish. Wow
No shit...
Yeah, that's the answer. Couldn't be that our public servants could learn not to be utterly corrupt and incompetent.
Wow, that is downright scary dude. Can you imagine?
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Hey, I read Radley Balko (and Matt aren't you cutting into his territory?) so I knew that every day, cops using no-knock warrants bust into the wrong house.
What I didn't know was it is ALWAY the same house!
You snooze, you lose. Or get invaded by a SWAT team.
(Radley's out today.)
It does make sense though. If you are rounding up the usual suspects, you should return to the same place.
I like how it's a 'computer glitch'. It's not user error, it's not programming error, it's not willful misconduct. No, it's not any of those things that are usually the problem. It's a 'computer glitch.'
Personally, I'm going with a combination of user error and willful misconduct.
"Computer glitch" sounds so much better than NYPD incompetence.
hold it there, professor.
they "fixed the glitch"
It's never the NYPD's fault.
After the 10th mistaken dispatch: "Say, Ernie, I have the strangest sense of d?j? vu."
Just what were the circumstances that they broke the back window, assuming these folks were home?
Should we forward their address to the local animal shelters to be sure they don't adopt a dog?
LOL
d'oh. beat me to it 🙂
"an elderly Brooklyn couple more than 50 times since 2002" I was wondering about why we have never heard the story? After any of the raids? I can't help but think they don't get a lot of visitors and enjoy the company. I bet she bakes cookies and knows all the cops by name.
The funny part is that this is not beyond the realm of possibility...
They would make a great interview. I can't wait to see them on tv.
This is rediculus, can'y they get the right house.
If they abuse their viagra is it still the wrong house, you cum guzzling gutter slut?
can'y they get the right house.
It's one of the greatest houses ever made.
Damn it, just give them the donuts Rose! Maybe they'll go away and leave us alone.
perhaps Walter should invest in a baseball bat, better yet a taser
"more than 50 times since 2002"
This means that the same detective units raided the same wrong house, again and again. It means the same precinct saw the same address again and again and thought, "oh, I'm sure a drug dealer or parole violater has moved in by now."
Database glitch - fuck no. This means a whole swath of NYPD leadership doesn't notice or care about 'wrong house raids' and should be whipped through the streets.
We laughed. We cried. It was better than cats. We want to raid that house again and again.
+1
The bad data sounds like a user input, not a database, glitch and it works out to a police visit every 2 months, on average.
Imagine this happening:
Detective #1: "We were at that house 2 months ago."
Detective #2: "Let's check it out again."
...49 times.
You know, when you bought the house at "0001 Search Warrant Street" you should have known there was a reason it was priced well below market value.
This is rediculus, can'y they get the right house.
It *is* the right house.
These people are insidious criminal masterminds, always a step ahead of the police. Once the coppers have backed, stuttering and stammering their apologies, out the door, these seemingly harmless octogenarians giggle and caper about the joint, throwing odious taunts into the evening air.
The drug stash, the weapons cache, all safe in their devious concealments.
Some day,
some day...
You're wrong.
Walter is Bruce Wayne's most recent identity, and the back window is the only entrance into the house when it's on lockdown.
Yeah, the bad economy hit him hard, but he's making do without a Batcave.
"The department has flagged the address so the police will not go there unless the address is double checked," said NYPD spokesman Paul Browne.
Excuse me, Mr. Browne, but are you telling us that you normally DON'T bother double-checking to make sure you have the RIGHT FUCKING ADDRESS before you go hard-charging in there?
I'm just going to post a section of Texas law and wonder about the applicability in this case.
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.
Which, in combination with the use of deadly force statute in Texas, always seemed to me to imply Texas lets you shoot the cops if they break down your door at 3 am.
When as that law worked for anyone? It's not like the target of a raid, or an arrestee is the one who get to define necessary force. The more you resist, the more they have the ok to escalate. So your attempt to follow that law would be preceived as resistance. If you really tried that, you would be beaten to a pulp or shot dead.
I don't know if it's ever worked, I just know it's on the books.
I think after the 2nd or 3rd time I would have sued the living shit out of the NYPD for harrassment. Then I would have put up a big sign in my yard that read "NYPD has raided our house in error X times" and then put a little hang card for the X and add one for each new raid. There is some SERIOUS INCOMPETENCE going on with the cops. If this is how they handle raids and fixing errors nothing will ever change only going to get worse as we become more of a police state. 50 fucking times, really, FIFTY before they bothered to check into thing. From here on out I plan to blame any issues I have on the computer, I mean once you blame the computer there is no consequence after, can't punish a computer.
Why do these idiots insist on living in the wrong house?
What is interesting to note is the fact that militarization of all State, county, municipalities and any other possible governing bodies have had their Swat equipment, training and directives granted, sanctioned, paid for and spelled out by the Federal Government ie The U.S. Armed forces, in an exact format in a strategy that encompasses and comprises a directive of Police State Government. The reason for usage of Swat teams for reasons other than their prime directives, is twofold:
1) to desensitize the general public and other governing bodies to the usage and public presence in a wide variety of applications so as to make said presence a normalcy, thus gardening acceptance of a military presence in everyday civilian life by the population as a whole.
2) That, in order to keep the Federal money coming in to their respective agencies, they must show that these Swat teams are being utilized and publicly paraded for the desired desensification directive.
The gradual introduction of this militarization, along with the ever increasing law enforcement TV/movie programming have in effect made the public accept their presence as normal.
The crime statistics do not bear out the number,expense or usage of such specialized troops. They are in effect, a military force in waiting for an unkown directive. A reasonable man must ask "What are they for?". Please don't ask unless you are willing to hear the truth. As a wise man once said "The truth will set you free".....................