How About "People Who Enjoy Brunch"?

Weird poll of the day: According to a new New York Times/CBS News survey, 79 percent of respondents who identified as Democrats say they favor allowing gay men and lesbians to serve in the military, and 60 percent favor allowing them to serve openly.

But according to the same poll, only 59 percent of Democrats favor allowing homosexuals to serve, and only 44 percent favor allowing them to serve openly.

According to the New York Times' "The Caucus" blog, the weird disparity wasn't as prominent with Republicans and independents.

(DISCLOSURE: I enjoy brunch more than any straight man should.)

Comments

[ev]

C'mon Rad, it's ok.

I'm a southern Indiana boy, too. Let's get some brunch, baby.

[Marc]

Brunch is freaking awesome, and not in a gay way, NTTAWWT.

[John Tagliaferro]

I'm having brunch right now. Nothing wrong with that.

[Clich? Bandit]

I am a full on brunch supporter and I even support having at least two bottles of bubbly. I am happily married to a woman but in all honestly I was opened up to the brunch experience by an ambiguously gay man so take that for what it is worth.

EIGHT DOLLARS FOR COFFEE?!?!?

[JW]

Hey, one of the best brunches I ever had was with a gay classmate at a Ritz Carlton. And he paid! For the brunch, I mean.

[oaktownadam]

Indeed. I see no conflict between heterosexuality and loving brunch.

Besides, brunch, with it's bloody marys and mimosas, offers us a classy way to get drunk before noon!

[GILMORE]

offers us a classy way to get drunk before noon!

I always thought that was the whole raison d'?tre of brunch. Isnt that why sunday is brunchday? Hangover solution.

Back in the 80s, a euphemism often used for 'gay' was "quiche eater"

[John Thacker]

According to a new New York Times/CBS News survey, 79 percent of respondents who identified as Democrats say they favor allowing gay men and lesbians to serve in the military, and 60 percent favor allowing them to serve openly.

Not quite what the linked article says. Says 79% of Democrats favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly, which made for "nearly" 60% of those surveyed overall in favor.

The discrepancy is even larger than you first wrote among Democrats. 79% favor "gay men and lesbians" serving openly, but only 43% favor "homosexuals."

[grrizzly]

Let me come out in favor of moderate plagiarism. It would have been better if journalists just copied the language from a press release, presumably written by someone who knew what the poll actually found. Instead writers feel obliged to use different words. And they quickly get confused.

[Oscar]

Not surprising. Every survey indicates Democrats are less knowledgeable about history, civics, economics,science etc.
The Democrat demographic is a mixture of graduate and professional degrees with HS diploma or less. Republicans lean more to 4 year degree/some college.Interestingly it isn't the uneducated dragging them down.Highly educated dems tend to be ignorant of these areas as well.Particularly civics,history and economics.

[Nick]

But they have those useful Humanities and English degrees!

[@]

I come here to be enlightened and entertained. Today I learned that brunch is gay.

[Ska]

Is it from the massive gay singles ads in the margins.

Jesus Christ reason, what the hell are you trying to do to me?

[@]

My margins are pure white and ad-free, which makes me a racist, or at the very least, a homophobe.

[Zoosk]

Don't be afraid of my ad. Come on over and well do brunch on a glass bottom boat.

[Juice]

That's what I was thinking. "Brunch is a gay thing?"

[Plague Dog]

What percentage of people like to fuck with polls? I know I do.

Also "Gay and Lesbians" are flamboyant designers and hairdressers and sexy porn. "Homosexuals" do the buttsecks, which fewer people support.

[J sub D]

What percentage of people like to fuck with polls? I know I do.

As do I. Especially with the "if the election were held today" polls. I lie like a rug.

[Aresen]

I was wondering who those Madoff supporters were.

[brotherben]

Buttsecks is something I can definately get behind.

[Hope-A-Dope]

I thought Buttsecks was a town in South Wales.

[wylie]

What percentage of people like to fuck with polls?

This would make for an excellent polling question.

[Rhayader]

Also "Gay and Lesbians" are flamboyant designers and hairdressers and sexy porn. "Homosexuals" do the buttsecks, which fewer people support.

Exactly. Gays are on Bravo. Homosexuals are in videos hidden inside paper bags.

[@]

Gays are delightfully witty, smart, fashionable and very good cooks.
Homosexuals are dirty fudgepackers with bad skin.

[adam]

Maybe some consider gay to mean happy, and lesbian to mean someone from the island of lesbos.

[Robert]

I'm certain the euphemism "gay" exists for a reason, and that it is effective. (Lesbian not so much.) Consider how attitudes would change if instead the term "shitty" were adopted. "Gay" does denote "happy", and who could be against that?

[ClubMedSux]

I'm fairly indifferent to brunch. It's not quite breakfast, it's not quite lunch, but it comes with a slice of cantaloupe at the end. You don't get completely what you would get at breakfast, but you get a good meal.

[ev]

Ooooh, for the relatively obscure Simpsons win!

[Ska]

Season 1 Jacques and the Homer bowling ball ep. C'mon, that's not really obscure, is it?

[robc]

No Simpsons reference is obscure. Especially not that one.

[What's brunch?]

You'll like it. It's not quite breakfast, it's not quite lunch, but it comes with a slice of cantaloupe at the end.

[What's brunch?]

dammit, the quote started this thread. nevermind.

[Ken Shultz]

I wonder how they would have felt about homosapiens serving openly, or how they feel about homosapiens and thespians serving together.

[Warren]

or heterosexuals berthing together.

[Libertymike]

Some, no doubt, would feel that its all an act, man.

[Aresen]

Or schools being taught by known pedagogues.

[creech]

Or all graduates of the Service Academies having matriculated?

[wylie]

Now you're just being gross.

[Qualis Artifex Pereo]

Dude, you enjoy dogs more than any straight man should.

[brotherben]

(DISCLOSURE: I enjoy brunch more than any straight man should.)

cite please; }

[Aron]

This is a common issue in survey research. Getting meaningful results is actually a lot harder than just 'ask a question, get an answer'.

Back when abortion was more of a hotbutton for the public wild swings (from most opposing, to most favoring) were reported just from how the questions were asked.

"Do you favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military?" is sure to get a 5-10 percentage point boost compared to "Do you favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military, OR NOT?"

[Robert]

Shouldn't that last get 100%? Excluded middle, yeah?

[Warren]

Wait what? Brunch is gay now? Goddamnit, teh gays take all the good stuff. *hmph*

[MP]

I missed that memo too.

[Zeb]

They took all our manliest names, like Lance and Bruce and Julian.

[wylie]

I'll never forgive gays for taking refracted light. Pretty greedy, gays.

[Jefferson]

If bacon, waffles and daydrinking are gay, I don't want to be straight.

[Aresen]

According to my calculation, that means 36% of Dems don't think gays are homosexual.

This is about the same % of Reps who think Obama was born in Kenya.

Stupidity has no party label.

[Oscar]

Stupidity? Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya That is a proven fact

[Aresen]

I rest my case.

[Joe M]

Oscar wins, you lose. Sorry.

[Slut Bunwalla]

I'm pretty sure most feminists (the hardcore type) don't think gay men are homosexual. Rather, they think of gay men as some sort of pure, holy, unsexual angels.

[alittlesense]

I don't care about the gay guys...but No Thespians!!

[Clich? Bandit]

comn...Charlie Sheen or Gatrofolo on the front lines in Afaganistan? What is wrong with that?

Just sayin

[Warty]

I like the muslim dating ads much more than the stupid gay singles ads. Damn you to hell, Radley!

Also, what the fuck is wrong with brunch?

[Ska]

Salmon caesar salad and mimosas, that's what.

Roast beef with horseradish and meunster, and maybe a screwdriver (apparently whiskey isn't a brunch drink), and you're fine.

[Not a Libertarian]

As a gay man i HATE "Brunch"

if it is the morning - you are eating breakfast.

if it the afternoon - you are eating lunch

No one is eating "linner" or "dunch" at 3:00-4:00

Oh- and if you want to drink mimosas, well please by all means continue- but just remember "not so much teeth" next time you perform fellatio on your boyfriend. I am more than willing to teach proper form.

[Tony]

Brunch is breakfast with booze. That's why it's a great thing.

[oaktownadam]

There is no "linner" or "dunch", but there *is* supper.

[Slut Bunwalla]

Yeah but in these modern times, supper and dinner pretty much mean the same thing.

[oaktownadam]

fine, call it "tea time", heathen.

[Robert]

I thought I invented lupper.

[Aresen]

"linner" or "dunch"?

Hmm.

Nice idea. I'm often a bit peckish around 3:30 PM.

[Kolohe]

You're Canadian, eh? Like the man said above, you don't do High Tea at the Empress?

[ev]

Ok I need some help from hit/runners:

It's 1:25 am on Saturday here in Korea. I'm a bit drunk. (Three day weekend, dontchaknow?) I just read Krugman's Friday op-ed.

"The bottom line, then, is that the crusade against health reform has relied, crucially, on utter hypocrisy: Republicans who hate Medicare, tried to slash Medicare in the past, and still aim to dismantle the program over time, have been scoring political points by denouncing proposals for modest cost savings ? savings that are substantially smaller than the spending cuts buried in their own proposals."

My translation: Reps don't like Medicare, have tried to get rid of it and are planning on eliminating it in the future. They are "scoring political points" by criticizing proposals that don't save as much money as the Rep plan would.

So...they don't like the plan and they're trying to cut costs to make MediC smaller. They are scoring points because, I would assume, this sort of logic is popular among voters/respondents.

Where is the hypocrisy? I know it's retarded to try and divine rationality from the Kruginator...but you know. Know thy enemy.

Am I just reading this wrong or is that really as batshit retarded as it looks on its face?

[Tony]

Republicans on medicare is hypocrisy squared.

Rant against socialized medicine AND medicare cuts, while proposing cutting medicare more than Dems would.

[Oscar]

medicare cuts > medicare > Obama care without medicare alternative

perfectly logical

[KyleG]

But how much more do you enjoy your brunch than any heterosexual man?

[Slut Bunwalla]

Threeve.

[Citizen Nothing]

I think Balko has outed himself as a Cosmotarian.

[John Tagliaferro]

Thought you havd to be in DC, Manhattan or another big Cosmo city for that.

[Oscar]

Balko is to the left of cosmotarians

[Rhayader]

Brunch implies a night of heavy drinking, and probably also a wake n' bake. In other words, it's unquestionably awesome.

[gas]

Wake n' Bake + Brunch = Awesome^10

[Ska]

Agreed.

[SugarFree]

Brunch is best in the summer time and outside. You can watch all the walks of shame.

[Episiarch]

What if you are walking the walk yourself? Do you still stop in for a Bloody Mary?

[SugarFree]

Of course. She's got to wash down that Plan B with something.

[Episiarch]

I was referring to you, dipshit. Or Warty.

[SugarFree]

I only strut with pride.

[Dagny T.]

Epi thinks everyone is as repulsed by their own sexual preferences as he is. Let go of the post-furry tryst self-hatred, dude.

[Benjamin Lecrone]

While I have nothing against brunch, or even lupper for that matter; I'm more of a brinner fan. Though, I absolutely refuse to use a spork regardless of the presence of thespians or homosapiens. And I support this statement 100%, unless asked about the same topic in a slightly different manner in which case I will support the above assertion only 79% of the time. Do I make my self clear you bunch of flaming hypocrites!

(Why do I feel like I'm in that MST3K segment where Mike and the Bots are having an Andy Rooney Off?)

Benjamin

[Nipplemancer]

brinner is awesome. bacon cheeseburger with waffles as the bun, smothered in maple syrup. mmmmmmmm

[Slut Bunwalla]

I had a bacon and egg cheeseburger at IHOP a few weeks ago. Fried egg on a bacon cheeseburger. It was amazing. If I get it again maybe I'll see if they'd be willing to replace the bun with pancakes or waffles. I mean, they probably won't, but I could still try.

[wylie]

If they wont do it, just order a plate of waffles and perform the amalgamation yourself at the table.

[Michael Ejercito]

While I have nothing against brunch, or even lupper for that matter; I'm more of a brinner fan.

It should be called seakfast or deakfast.

[Slut Bunwalla]

Both of those sound oddly sexual.

[Robert]

I also like Chino Rican food.

[T]

I just want to know how much a straight man should enjoy brunch so I don't over-enjoy myself and get hit on next time I take the wife out for brunch. She gets crabby when people start hitting on me.

[Dagny T.]

Want to know what's even gayer than brunch? I just had a discussion with my (gay, natch) coworker about which version of "Don't Rain on My Parade" is more fabulous, Barbra's or Glee's. We decided they are both divine.

[SugarFree]

You work with Warty? What's that like?

[alittlesense]

Mr. Lecrone: But will you eat with a foon in the presence of lesbian thespians?

[wylie]

Depends on what they're performing?

[Janis Joplin]

It's all the same fucking meal.

[Robert]

When your food starts fucking, you've had too much to drink.

[Austin]

Since when is brunch a gay thing? I've never heard that before.

[Houston]

So is having anal sex with another man.
The surprises keep on comin' don't they Dorothy

[John in Nashville]

Did the poll respondents realize that, as recently as 1989, we had an openly thespian commander-in-chief?

[Paul]

(DISCLOSURE: I enjoy brunch more than any straight man should.)

But do you enjoy goat cheese and pine nuts?

[The Original Kevin]

I hate brunch. I was in Vegas for Super Bowl weekend and there were no buffets open until 9am in the area that I was staying.

I kept searching & searching with no luck. Brunch is for those alcoholics who can't wake and/or stay up for breakfast. Damn Drunks!

[RichN]

This poll begs the question: How many would support "vertically challenged" or "little people" serving in the military as compared to a midgets and dwarfs?

[Not Funny]

People! It doesn't matter whether they're gay or homosexual. They're all fags.

[Pro Libertate]

What? Brunch isn't gay. Unless you host it.

[Rhayader]

That just proves how gay you are. Gay-diddly-ay.