The Daily Outrage: I'm Outraged By Your Outrageously Sexist Comment
Trawling the lefty blogs today, I see that everyone—TPM, Think Progress writer Amanda Terkel, Oliver Willis, Media Matters, Huffington Post—is outraged that Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace worked blue on the Don Imus radio show. Imus asks if Sarah Palin will "sit on his lap" during her first appearance on Wallace's Sunday chatfest (yeah, this is as funny as it gets). Wallace replies: "One can only hope." Badabing! You can listen to the clip at any of the links above.
Horrifying, eh?
Andrew Sullivan is outraged too, though this time at radio host Rush Limbaugh, who apparently made a dirty joke that our 40th president never would have made. (And Amanda Terkel is on the case too, ferreting out the sexism of America's czar of "hate radio"). In an interview with CNN's Gretchen Carlson, Limbaugh swatted away suggestions that he was a knuckle-dragging misogynist with a joke about asses:
CARLSON: So for those who were critics of you in judging this pageant, and saying that you haven't been a supporter of women in the past —
LIMBAUGH: Oh, I'm a huge supporter of women. What I'm not a supporter of is liberalism. Feminism is what I oppose, and feminism has led women astray. I love women. I don't know where all this got started. I love the women's movement — especially when walking behind it. This idea that I don't like women is absurd. This is Miss America. And if there's a Mr. America out there, it's me.
Sullivan sighs: "Imagine Reagan saying something like that. You can't, can you?" The comment might be boorish (I am not a good judge of such things), but seriously—it's a joke…from a radio host. And actually, I can imagine Reagan making such a horribly insensitive crack about ladies' asses, just not in public. He was, after all, the president. As Reagan biographer Richard Reeves wrote, "Reagan and [Vice President George H.W.] Bush had had lunch most weeks, eating Mexican food, telling dirty jokes, and talking sports most of the time." In his anti-Reagan book Sleepwalking Through History, former Washington Post columnist Haynes Johnson writes that among "his vast repertoire of stories were innumerable raunchy ones that he told with pleasure and at great length." In Dutch, Edward Morris relates that Reagan used to tell rude jokes—"gross stuff"—in front of women.
In other words, he was history's greatest monster.
But regardless, if there is anything more tedious than over-the-top Reagan hagiography, it's the "Reagan never would have done that" nonsense of those supposedly defending conservative principles.
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Or the "Reagan never would have done that" nonsense said by liberals supposing what conservatives believe.
Those are incredibly mild jokes.
Not mild enough to say on a radio broadcast in 2010. Saying that to a female co-worker is likely to get one fired, and rightly so. Keep that shit in the locker room.
That's a joke, right? I'd be sure it was if it weren't for the "and rightly so".
The only offensive thing about Limbaugh's joke is that I remember reading it in one of his books about fifteen years ago. Get some new material, Rush.
Careful with that joke, it's an antique.
Sullivan's interest in women extends no farther than designing their gala gowns in his head.
Untrue. He is intensely interested in Palin's vagina.
And uterus, of course.
Sullivan has an intensely sick fixation on Pallin. For him to say anything about someone else's preceived sexism shows a breathtaking lack of self awareness. But of course the hallmark of being insane is not knowing that you are.
John, do you know that you are insane? 😉
I know I'm insane John, don't you?
I too know you're insane, heller.
I stand corrected. Other than designing women's clothes in his head he is all worried about Palin's womanhood. Beyond that . . .
Nothing.
Sullivan was still writing, AS OF THIS WEEK, that Trig is not Sarah Palin's child. He also stated that "Trig" is actually derived from shortening a variant of the technical terminology for Downs. Not only that, he uggested that Sarah and Todd Palin did so TO MOCK THEIR OWN CHILD (or grandchild,as the case may be in Sullivanland). When I used to read Sullivan on a regular basis, I thought it was terrible when people who disagreed with him would throw in the term "AIDS dementia". Well, if there's something more offensive that you can come up with, consider it said on my part. Sullivan, if he's serious, is a psycho and should not be published by the Atlantic or anyone else who would like to consider themselves reputable.
In medical circles, paranoid schizophrenia is often referred to as "Andre-W."
Imus, Limbaugh, and their likes have a long history of putting their foot in it. Usually this is a result of never venturing far beyond their home turf. This could all have been avoided if these dipshits would leave the schtick to the professionals. Hint #1: Just because you tell a joke doesn't mean we have to laugh.
Give up. Sullivan isn't going to be making a prom dress for you.
"And actually, I can imagine Reagan making such a horribly insensitive crack about ladies asses, just not in public."
I think that's actually the real point. I can't remember Reagan saying anything remotely crude in public. As an actor, he probably had a sixth sense as to when the mic was on. Well, except for that "We're about to bomb Russia" joke.
You don't need a sixth sense as a politician to know when the mic is on. You always, always, assume any mic is on, without exception.
Even in that instance, Reagan knew what he was doing.
I always assumed telling that joke on mic was intentional.It worked splendidly.
You know what TPM, Think Progress, Amanda Terkel, Oliver Willis, Media Matters, the Huffington Post, Chris Wallace, Don Imus and Rush Limbaugh all have in common?
They're universally ignored by people worth listening to.
"...if there is anything more tedious than over-the-top Reagan hagiography, it's the "Reagan never would have done that" nonsense of those supposedly defending conservative principles."
Pragmatic on foreign policy, big on deregulation... Oh, if only we had a President like that now.
Just for the record, President Reagan would have never bailed out GM, noble-lied us into Iraq or said half the stupid things President Obama says on a daily basis.
That would be Fox News' Gretchen Carlson.
The teabaggers probably eat that crude "humor" right up.
Get back in the kitchen with Sullivan!
Now suck on my chocolate salty balls, baby!
That would be Fox News' Gretchen Carlson.
I object to the nihilism in this post. It's nothing more than nihilism. Nihilism.
Back in the kitchen bitch.
"Imagine Reagan saying something like that. You can't, can you?"
Earth to Sullivan: Rush Limbaugh got famous (and rich) saying exactly this kind of shit. If he came on and tried to impersonate George Will, they wouldn't invite him back.
Good grief.
He really isn't built for a bow tie anyway. Okay, I am revealing my age because I remember when Will wore bow ties.
damn, me too
sigh...
Who's George Will?
Damn kids these days who think the only bhistory of the world is Star Wars. Go watch this and learn something
HEY!!! there was pokemon as well
i assumed he still wore them, but i stopped paying attention to him years ago.
I'm fond of George Will, but he is a prude. He get's annoyed by people wearing blue jeans. Rush is proud of his glorious naked body. They are both silly in their own way.
"Rush" + "glorious naked body"? Ummm, errmmm, uhhh....
THIS BRAIN HAS ATTEMPTED AN ILLEGAL OPERATION AND MUST BE SHUT DOWN.
He is intensely interested in Palin's vagina.
Hey!
I just ate.
oh ? no ?. I can't say it.
Too... many... Gigli reference jokes... Must... resist... temptation...
Go ahead. No one else will get them anyway.
Ate at the Y?
Are you telling us Sully's contemplating "playing for the other team" or something?
i bet you'd never hear a joke about a woman's ass at a john edwards campaign rally.
This thread is RETARDED. OMG am I banned?
No, you're not.
Yes you are. Don't try to post, it won't work.
In other words, he was history's greatest monster.
Thanks. That was the hearty laugh for the evening. I'm totally stealing that line.
Best wishes,
-MFS
Jesus. If you people keep paying attention to Sullivan, he's never going to stop annoying us.
What's wrong with being sexy?
Sexy is a human trait that egalitarians have not figured out to equalize. They can send every kid to a mediocre public school, they can cap your wages high and low, they can make you go to a mediocre doctor, but their stamp out sexy. Yet.
Ever see Russian chicks during the heyday of the Soviet Union? Oh they're hot now, but back then they were so egalitarianized they would make your testicles retract in horror.
I'd say that was obviously a CIA misinformation campaign. Hey, we won the Cold War for a reason.
The brothels in Frankford and Hamburg, in aftermath of the Cold War, would quench a sailor's lust for a good day or two.
I've long wondered what's up with that. When domestic hogs go feral, their bodies often transform into something very different. Is a similar process at work with women exposed to communism?
I totally misread the line originally as "Imagine ReaSon saying something like that. You can't, can you?" Full stop...querelous rereading...
That was the best laugh all night - thanks, Reaganson!
Sheeeee-it! Reagan told a nuke joke in front of a live mike during the cold war. That sumbitch ain't afraid of no Gloria Steinem.
OMG Sullivan has revealed the secret!
A current talk radio host might not be as dignified as a President from 30 years ago!
As Reagan biographer Richard Reeves wrote, "Reagan and [Vice President George H.W.] Bush had had lunch most weeks, eating Mexican food, telling dirty jokes, and talking sports most of the time." In his anti-Reagan book Sleepwalking Through History, former Washington Post columnist Haynes Johnson writes that among "his vast repertoire of stories were innumerable raunchy ones that he told with pleasure and at great length." In Dutch, Edward Morris relates that Reagan used to tell rude jokes?"gross stuff"?in front of women.
I'm warming to the Mt. Ronald Reagan idea.
Full stop...querelous rereading...
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