Health care reform

Obama: ‘I Don’t Think I Said That.’ In Exactly Those Words. In That Particular Speech.

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Last week Peter Suderman noted that President Obama, in his exchange with Republican congressmen on Friday, not only conceded that opponents of his health care plan had proposed reforms that were worthy of consideration but bragged (not altogether accurately) that some of them had been incorporated into the bills that passed the House and Senate. Those remarks contradicted the Obama administration's earlier claims that the opposition had no solutions to offer. How did Obama address this contradiction at Friday's session devoted to cross-party civility and understanding? By denying it. When Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) complained that "you have repeatedly said, most recently at the State of the Union, that Republicans have offered no ideas and no solutions," Obama replied:

I don't think I said that. What I said was within the context of health care—I remember that speech pretty well. It was only two days ago.

I said I'd welcome ideas that you might provide. I didn't say that you haven't provided ideas. I said I'd welcome those ideas that you'll provide.

Saying that you're waiting to hear ideas strongly implies that you haven't heard them yet, doesn't it? But never mind that. The president and his underlings have directly stated what he only implied in the State of the Union address. Most conspicuously, there was the September 2009 speech to which Peter referred last week:

I've got a question for all those folks [opponents of his plan]: What are you going to do? What's your answer? What's your solution? And you know what? They don't have one. Their answer is to do nothing. Their answer is to do nothing.

PolitiFact.com found three other examples:

• A White House blog post attacking the Republican health care plan said it offered "no ideas." (The posting appears to have a typo. It reads: "The Republican bill offers new no ideas.")

• White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel on April 19, 2009, described the Republicans as "the party of never…the party of no new ideas." (He was referring not just to health care, but also to fiscal discipline.)

• At a White House briefing April 28, 2009, press secretary Robert Gibbs made a similar comment: "I think you heard me and others say that you can't just be the party of no or the party of no new ideas."

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86 responses to “Obama: ‘I Don’t Think I Said That.’ In Exactly Those Words. In That Particular Speech.

  1. Soooo…Obama lied. Again.

    I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise. I am also his heart which has been chewed on, spit out, thrown on the ground, and stomped on.

    1. You know what this sounds like, sage?

      1. chewed on, spit out, thrown on the ground, and stomped on.

        Sounds like spam to me.

        1. Close.

            1. Fight Club you fools!

              1. The first rule of Fight Club is you don’t talk about fight club.

                Shhhh.

            2. Haven’t you got anything without scam?

              1. Bloody vikings.

                1. Scamarama!

        2. Blasphemy! Spam is the Food of the Gods/Gaia/Higher Intelligence/FSM.

          1. Hey! I’m actually on Eastern time for once. Or as I like to call it “Fake time”.

          2. Elzar: Hey ma’am, you sure can put it away! You saved me a trip to the dump! Bam!

            Calculon: I’d appreciate it if you didn’t bam the young lady.

            Elzar: Well, I’d appreciate it if I did, so I guess we’re even.

            1. Futurama is childish.

              1. kiss my shiny metal ass

          3. Considering Obama’s penchant for telling lies in order to get what he wants, I think “wham, bam, thank you ma’am” would be more appropriate.

            At least Bill Clinton only screwed women; Barry’s going to give us all a quickie and leave us will the bill for dinner and the hotel room.

            1. Yep, and to paraphrase the famous drill sergeant, he won’t even give us the common courtesy of a reach-around!

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  2. “Last week Peter Suderman noted that President Obama, in his exchange with Republican congressmen on Friday, not only conceded that opponents of his health care plan had proposed reforms that were worthy of consideration but bragged (not altogether accurately) that some of them had been incorporated into the bills that passed the House and Senate.”

    And yet for some reason, it doesn’t make it into the top 5. We really need to see the code.

  3. Go-go-Gadget one-term president!

  4. “I guess I’m just an old mad scientist at bottom. Give me an underground laboratory, half a dozen atom-smashers, and a beautiful girl in a diaphanous veil waiting to be turned into a chimpanzee, and I care not who writes the nation’s laws.”

    – S.J. Perelman

  5. Well, least some people are starting to call him on this stuff without worrying about being smote.

  6. I really admire the Presidents ability to perform my handle.

    1. AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!!!!

      STAND UP AMERICA

  7. Pay attention. In response to Price’s assertion, Obama first narrowed it to the SOTU address and second, denied he said those exact words. Also, in using the word “you”, he narrowed it even more to mean Price himself. As for the rest of the quotes, those were from Obama’s staff members. Not from Obama himself, during the SOTU, where he didn’t say that Price himself hadn’t offered suggestions for reform. Also, implying isn’t stating.

    1. Just for the record, we should categorically deny attorneys the right to live in the White House. Unless they’ve proven themselves by ordeal first, anyway.

      1. Pffffff. Thunderdome, sir. Thunderdome.

        1. Pass the Bar, Face the Wheel

      2. Once you understand evolutionary biology, you will understand this to be catastrophic folly! You never winnow a breeding population of a pest infestation down to it’s hardiest members – not unless you want the lawyerly eqivalent of MRSA or maybe 10-foot fire-breathing cockroaches.

        One effective scheme is to weaken the strain and release specimen back to the environment in order to reduce the viability of the species. I’m not quite sure what the best means to that end might be, however – I would hope the education they don’t receive during their undergraduate years might help do the job, but ignorance doesn’t quite seem to degrade the profession enough to be an effective tactic. Maybe Joe Biden could act as a spokesman for the Juris Doctorate – that should fatally infect the species.

        1. This explains what the commies who teach Marilyn Monroe instead of Valley Forge have been doing to America…

    2. It would have been better if he said “you people.” Or wouldn’t that count if it’s BHO saying it?

  8. I think it’s a little much to expect coherency, let alone honesty, from the Obama administration.

    Once we all define down our acceptable levels of chicanery, it will all be better.

    1. Even coherent dishonesty would be an improvement.

      1. I’d settle for incoherent honesty.

        Kinda like having Emily Letella as president.

        1. Yes, that would be much better.

          1. Can you imagine the SOTU?

            A raging tirade, an aid whispering in her ear and a “Never mind.”

            1. A week after the SoTU would come SoTU: The Retraction.

        2. I’d settle for incoherent honesty.

          Biden? Or is that incoherent stupidity?

          1. That’s just plain old babbling nuts.

            1. Do we need to bring his genitals into this?

          2. Just incoherent.

        3. I thought that’s what Palin was. But [sniff] nobody likes her. ??

          1. They are all just a bunch of babbling idiots just waiting to see which one can get on TV next and who has the most money to offer them to pass a bill. STAND UP AMERICA.

            1. So they stand up. Then what?

      2. Are you serious?

        1. AS SERIOUS AS YOU ARE NANCY PELOSI!!!

          STAND UP AMERICA

          1. But, I just sat down. I’m betting you were too as you typed that.

  9. Lying your ass off in politics is getting to be pretty hard in today’s intertubes age.

    1. Nah, it’s easy – most everyone’s looking at the boob jobs on HuffPo so they don’t worry so much about the lying. Bread and circuses, man, bread and circuses!

      1. Which means they like fake boobs.

        Think about it.

  10. Is giving speeches the ONLY thing Obama is good at? Sure seems that way!

    RT
    http://www.be-invisible.es.tc

    1. I think we should count anonymity bot as a reason contributor.

  11. I like anonbot. Is that OK, or is it, like, a Stockholm Syndrome thing or something…?

  12. Obama is nothing but a lying two-bit piece of shit.

    He shouldn’t be given a paper bag to be in charge of.

    As absolutely incompetent as he is, this crap makes him look worse. He is a wannabe Chavez.

  13. I think the Republicans should really challange the White House to explain why proposals for interstate insurance competition aren’t acceptable.

    They should really make it clear that Obama is *against* letting people take their insurance with them when they move from state to state. And explain how the state government’s desire to individually regulate their state insurance cartels should be more important than letting people buy a policy from wherever they like.

    The interstate competition issue is a huge weak point on which there has been barely any public debate. I don’t even think most people are *aware* that it could be as easy as repealing a signle law, but the D’s would rather set up a hackneyed “insurance exchange” scheme than do the simple obvious thing.

    1. Democrats don’t want to talk about it, because for 30+ years “progressives” have been making state-level health insurance more expensive by loading it with various mandates.

    2. INSTEAD OF TALKING TO OBAMA, WHY DON’T THEY JUST LET THE REAL PEOPLE VOTE ON IT. ISN’T THAT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
      STAND UP AMERICA

      1. You have your caps lock on. It’s making all of your letters upper-case (“big”). In normal writing, we use a combination of upper-case and lower-case (“small”) letters.

        1. She’s using using the capslock(shouting) for emphasis. Personally I would have used the word “fucking” in there somewhere for the same affect but thats just me.

            1. Well, he was affecting a “gangsta” image… 😉

      2. Uh – no, it’s not your Constitutional right as an American citizen. The Constitution guarantees a republican form of government, not a pure democracy. Which means you don’t get to vote directly on every piece of legislation.

      3. Uh – no, it’s not your Constitutional right as an American citizen. The Constitution guarantees a republican form of government, not a pure democracy. Which means you don’t get to vote directly on every piece of legislation.

    3. I think the Republicans should really challange the White House to explain why proposals for interstate insurance competition aren’t acceptable.

      Say, which Republicans have proposed this novel idea?

  14. “Last week Peter Suderman noted that President Obama, in his exchange with Republican congressmen on Friday, not only conceded that opponents of his health care plan had proposed reforms that were worthy of consideration but bragged (not altogether accurately) that some of them had been incorporated into the bills that passed the House and Senate.”

    We’ve incorporated some of your ideas. But you have to wait until the bill is passed to see what’s inside in piniata. No peeking!

    1. For the rest of us, it’s more like waiting to find out the shape of the shrapnel in the shell.

    2. Surprise! It’s a bag of shit. Or asbestos insulation shavings.

      1. “But it’s really great shit, Mrs. M”.

  15. What is wrong with you People……Don’t you see what is happening to our country. You don’t have to watch Fox News to SEE IT.
    STAND UP AMERICA

    1. Now, see, that’s somewhat better. But I think you accidentally hit it again there toward the end. Understandable, since it’s close to the shift key. But do keep an eye on that.

    2. Also, there are these things called question marks. They look like this: ‘?’

      They are used to denote an interrogatory statement such as, “Don’t you see what is happening to our country?

      BTW, I’m not sure how standing up affects political change; Sure, it looks manly for the first hour or so, but then don’t your feet start to ache? Do you have a desk raised to a convenient height for standing? Or do you have to bend down to use it?

    3. What I want to know is, do you have big boobs?

      Big fake boobs get you TV spots a lot easier than small ones of any kind.

  16. Yeah, that’s what we need, we need “new ideas”. Fundamental principles are just so boring. The whole system is a charade with our overlords strutting and fretting. Unfortunately, there are consequences in the lives of the rest of us.

  17. This is all a big misunderstanding. Obama didn’t say, “I don’t think I said that.” He said, “I don’t think I read that,” referring to the speech he read off the teleprompter. He actually has no idea of the actual content, so cut him some slack.

    1. He wasn’t reading the SoTU. He was lip syncing it. It was all on a big tape loop. Actually, he’s bored with being President. He’d rather be a judge on American Idol.

  18. You guys are being way too hard on the POTUS. He can’t be expected to remember something he said like, two or three or fifty times. And I mean, what president remembers some crap from a state of the union address from so long ago. That was like a week ago, haters. Let it go.

  19. I once had a dysfunctional boss who was slowly sinking into terminal alcoholism. When ever he was called out on something stupid that he did not remember doing or saying, would say, ” I don’t think you heard me say that” or “I don’t think you saw me do that.” This sounds eerily like Obama. BTW, he was Progressive Democrat. Maybe there is a school or something they go to.

    1. Romans 1:18-32 is the school they’re required to attend…

  20. “No new ideas” — so what the hell is so “new” about government-run healthcare? Hasn’t that barnicle-encrusted idea been around for decades?

  21. What, are you going to believe Obama or your lying ears?

  22. I like the phrase “The Republican bill offers new no ideas.”

  23. If Obie would give up with the habitual lying, he wouldn’t have to worry about being caught.

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