Obamacare

Praying Lieberman Does Not Alter This Deal Any Further

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In response to Joe Lieberman's concerns and pressure from the White House to negotiate a deal quickly, Senate Democrats have dropped the Medicare buy-in that they'd negotiated in exchange for dropping the public option. Progressives had long pushed the line that the most liberal legislators might refuse to vote for a bill without a public option or some significant concession to replace it, but at least in the Senate, this was never very convincing: Liberals were almost certain to favor any sort expansion of insurance, meaning moderates always held the power. Now, hated as he is by ardent liberals, Lieberman basically holds the option to make or break health care — or change the deal to suit his whims. In other words, right now, Senate health care negotiations bear a close resemblance to this:

Hat tip to Patterico's Karl for the reference.

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  1. Look for Obama to lean heavy on the black caucus to support an optionless bill. Even with them on board, there might be enough hard lefties in the house to kill it.

  2. We live in a world where Glenn Beck’s paranoid rantings are (much) more accurate than the evening news, and I’m cheering on Joe Lieberman.

    I’m betting my 401K on the Detroit Lions next year.

    1. Aynone else who’d rather live under The Emperor’s/Vader’s oppressive rule, or is it just me?

      1. Hey, at least they seemed to be able to keep a balanced budget. And the starcruisers were on time.

      2. Palpatine seemed to allow privately owned FTL ships, blasters, artificial intelligence, etc.

        1. But there was plenty of smuggling going on that wasn’t connected to the Rebellion. Indicates that there were products illegal enough and desired enough for the smuggling premium to be worth it.

          Sounds oppressive to me.

          1. or onerous taxation

          2. However, you could always move to Tatooine, which was an anarchist paradise. Nothing except a fat crime lord living far off in the desert.

            1. I met him in a swamp down in Degoba, where it babbles all the time like a giant, carbonated soda…S-O-D-A. soda…I saw the little runt sitting there on a log; I asked him his name and in a raspy voice he said Yoda…Y-O-D-A. Yoda…

            2. Not true. There were storm troopers in Mos Eisley before R2D2 and C3PO went missing. It was a far strung outpost, but not beyond the grasp of the Empre.

        2. The dude had a Death Star! Why would he care if people had a few blasters?

      3. Hey, zero unemployment. As long as you don’t mind wearing white.

  3. With no Republican defectors, each and every other senator has the power to alter or kill the deal. I can’t believe they haven’t realized it yet.

    (Or they have, and the concessions they’re getting for their votes aren’t the kind you brag about to constituents.)

    1. But they all want Lieberman to take the fall for it.

  4. Huh, I read that as “*Paying* Lieberman Does Not Alter This Deal Any Further”… so he’s above bribes.

    What do you call a text mondegreen?

  5. I’m not riding a f***n unicycle.

  6. while we’re drawing anologies… http://totallylookslike.com/20…..lieberman/

  7. while we’re drawing anologies… http://totallylookslike.com/20…..lieberman/

  8. while we’re drawing lieberman anologies… http://totallylookslike.com/20…..lieberman/

  9. On the topic of lieberman analogies… http://totallylookslike.com/20…..lieberman/

  10. With no Republican defectors,

    There are two available. Inventing a deal that half-satisfies them both or wins Lieberman back along with Snowe might be the holdup.

    The anti-Lieberman journalistic wave that’s been authorized for today suggests they’re shooting for a Republican-defector deal. These concessions to cranky Joe aren’t for him. He’s only to blame for them.

    1. give this man a job I think he gets it

  11. I suspect that clip is a fairly accurate depiction of the Ascended One’s little get-together with the FatCats.

  12. It looks as though Reid has caved and Lieberman got what he wanted, and a deal may officially be done.

  13. Actually, ANY Senate Democrat has the power to alter the deal in any way he or she wants.

    They just have to have the balls / ovaries to fucking walk away if they don’t get what they want.

  14. THE PUBLIC OPTION – http://bit.ly/5l7TBP

    MANDATES MUST GO! THE FILIBUSTER MUST GO! It’s undemocratic. It was created to subvert democracy and the will of the people. The Constitution Of The United States only calls for a simple majority vote in the Senate (51 votes). The Senate should pass the strongest Public Option it can with 51 votes by Reconciliation.

    The Senate bill is a Swisses cheese of loopholes for the insurance industry. Without a strong Public Option, insurance reforms in the bill are worthless and have no teeth.

    CRITICAL!! From jacksmith – Working Class

    My Fellow Americans and People Of The World

    A strong Government-run MEDICARE like Public Option is CRITICAL!!

    A Medicare Buy-in at 55 is a GOOD! idea. But!, not a substitute for a strong Medicare like public option CHOICE for everyone. Nor is the (FEHBP). Without a strong public option on day one the Senate health-care bill is a disaster for the American People and the World. Therefore you must KILL!! it. Without a strong public option the health-care reform bill is MUCH WORSE! than what we have now, and what we have now is a catastrophe. SO YOU MUST KILL!! IT.

    What is proposed in the Senate is the worst case scenario for health-care reform. It would shift trillions of taxpayer, public and private dollars into the hands of the private insurance industry (The single most costly, deadly and dangerous product sold in America). And it would compel by law millions of Americans to financially support this oxymoronic criminal enterprise. You cant have a MANDATE WITHOUT A STRONG PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE!

    You will have NO! realistic way of controlling cost and quality. Cost will continue soaring through the roof bleeding the American people dry, and KILLing our economy. And our quality of healthcare will continue to decline below our current ranking of “WORST! quality of healthcare delivery in the developed World”.

    H1N1 IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION!

    I have to tell you now that the H1N1 virus is a man-made WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION! and TERROR! It is a WEAPONIZED version of a flu virus. It has swept the planet infecting millions. And causing a global pandemic that has killed tens of thousands, and injured millions.

    The H1N1 virus is the product of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! It was released in the U.S. in Texas in early January of this year, but not recognized until around April in California. The reason I know this is because when it came to America, it came to see me FIRST! How sweet…

    This was around the time the MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! assaulted the Whitehouse with all their devils deals to cripple and weaken YOUR! healthcare reform. Especially your right to have a single payer system like HR676 (Medicare For All) which most of you wanted.

    They don’t even want you to have your HUGE!!! compromise position of a strong government-run MEDICARE like Public Option CHOICE. To compete with their DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, MURDEROUS, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT PRODUCT (The single most costly, deadly and dangerous product sold in America).

    They also wanted to take away your rights to have your government meet it’s responsibility to use it’s full power to regulate, negotiate, and control drug cost, healthcare cost and quality. Something every other civilized country in the developed World has done for it’s people. Their Greed! moral degeneracy and lack of patriotism knows no bounds.

    Many of you will remember that before we knew about H1N1. I posted a open message to the President and Congress warning them to be vigilant about their health, and cautious about any medical advice they received. As I said then “they will not hesitate to try and hurt you”.

    The U.S. and the World have been under a BIOLOGICAL TERROR ATTACK! for over a year now. It is CRITICAL that We The People Of The United States take away control of our healthcare system from the GREED DRIVEN MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!

    For our own National security, and the security of the world.

    A Strong, government-run, MEDICARE like Public Option CHOICE. Available to everyone on day one, with the full unfettered power of the federal government to regulate, negotiate, and control cost and quality. Would be the most workable way to deal with this global crisis at this time. Including patent suspensions as needed for national security or the greater good.

    As an American I invite the peoples of the World to help us fix our healthcare crisis. And bring pressure on our government to meet it’s responsibility to protect global security by controlling, and removing the corrupting influence of GREED and the PRIVATE FOR PROFIT motivations from healthcare in the U.S. and around the World.

    I call on the governments of the World and the global intelligence community to track down these MASS MURDERERS, and bring them to justice. CONNECT THE DOTS! And be vigilant that they don’t slip in another viral strain on you under the cloak of H1N1 sequestration.

    Further, the proposed patent protection on biologic’s must be stripped from the US bill. And greatly shorten/restricted, or abolished completely. This is a grave danger to humanity and global security.

    I think President Obama is doing the best he can at playing the disastrous deck of cards he inherited from the previous administration. And I think he is doing an excellent job. But the wolves and devils of the medical industrial complex! are trying to exploit, and take advantage of his good heart, and desperate desire to help suffering Americans. But we must be strong and insist that healthcare reform be done right for the American people. Or everyone loose’s.

    This is all I can say in a message post. I’ll try to find a way to tell you more later.

    God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings

    jacksmith – Working Class

    p.s. The so-called nominal H1N1 virus is designed in such a way as to make it more lethal to children and young adults. The medical community must be more vigilant of secondary bacterial infections in the young caused by H1N1. And remember, a viral infection is also a transfer of genetic code to you. Think about it, and be vigilant. 🙁

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